This week, we saw new documents filed in the Lawsuit brought against the DGPT/PDGA by transgender professional disc golfer Natalie Ryan. Yesterday, May 9th, Natalie’s attorney filed a response to the defendants’ arguments against allowing Natalie to compete in the 2023 OTB Open. We explained the new filings and what we may see at today’s court hearing in Sacramento.

If you haven’t yet, please watch our video explaining the PDGA/DGPT response: https://youtu.be/DeS1A1q4CMI

Our previous video on the Natalie Ryan Lawsuit: https://youtu.be/eBqDkaY5Vx0

Our previous video on the PDGA/DGPT transgender Policy: https://youtu.be/Owy-dBrsSFg

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0:00 Natalie’s Lawsuit
0:24 Temporary Restraining Order and Defendants’ Arguments
2:17 Natalie’s Response
4:41 What Happens Now?

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32 Comments

  1. If they force the pdga to let him play in the fpo, then the pdga needs to pull the event from california next year. Other businesses need to start doing the same. There are so many laws and guidelines that businesses need to follow just because they sell goods in california. Let's see how california survives without the goods from other states

  2. This is insane. I support her right to live as a woman… but this isn't fair to the FPO. It exists as a separate league for a reason. Can Garret G. declare himself a lady and start dropping 500' bombs on the short tees for easy $$$?

    If you really want to be a pioneer for trans disc golf, go out and kick ass against the big boys… that'll get support.

  3. What about the discrimination towards biologically born women? They are being forced to play against a different kind of women. If Gannon Buhr came out as trans, the fpo field is done.

    If you are transgender, I am not against you. I’m against you playing competitively against biological women. Let’s make a transgender category and call it a day. Yes, the competition will be very small but wasn’t the fpo division small to start with? What about every other professional women’s sport? It’s starts small and grows from there.

  4. We should just stop having mens and women's divisions. Create xx and xy divisions and that ends all controversy.

  5. Here’s an idea. Why doesn’t the PDGA have an open league where any and all people can play, mixed bag if you will to see who the I don’t know “WORLD CHAMPION” is. Make everyone play against each other not grouping in trans athletes into their preferred division only to be shut down or denied

  6. I think you should let Natalie play against the fpo division while using the mpo starting tees. Crazy thought huh?

  7. If he gets in after winning this would really say something if he starts beating out tattar who's been on an absolute tear this season 😳 this is all just crazy hope it ends quickly and with the fpos best interests in mind

  8. If this case goes on with the outcome being dependent on the states moronic ideals hopefully the pdga and dgpt take that into account and move future events that the government tries to interject in the efforts of the league to be fair rewards to the women to states that don't try to push their nonsense on them

  9. "Their policy is not discriminatory because it somehow creates fairness in competition." Ummmm yea, that is absolutely correct. She was born a male, her natural body genetically gives her an advantage over a natural born female. So NOT allowing her to play DOES create fairness in competition. Like what are we arguing about here? Whoever passed that law snuck it past everyone in California. I don't remember being able to vote on that, just saying 🤷‍♂️. It's ultimately a very poor law and we should be arguing about the law itself in court. Not Natalie crying to get her way.

  10. Kieran McKay and others think that this video’s comments should be turned off bc they are “hateful” and is jeopardizing Ryan’s safety(let’s not talk about Nashville). Why shouldn’t we express our viewpoints as a community to help decide what’s best for the FPO? Censorship isn’t helpful.

  11. Nate Ryan couldn’t make it as a man and Natalie Ryan isn’t making it as a woman. Self made outcast.

  12. There is a clear advantage for a biological male who transgenders, as I have yet to hear of a biological female who transgenders and has won any competition in any sports.??? But seeing more and more of males who are transgender winning all sorts of sports. 🤔

  13. Im sick and tired of the transphobia in disc golf. Im sick of reading these comment sections full of people being bullies. What gain do you get intentionally misgendering someone? What level of pride do you have to have to feel the need to pat youself on the back and say "ah yes i showed these people i dont like how i feel about them, maybe they wont do it anymore"

    These are facts
    Natalie is a female.
    She is good at disc golf.
    People dont like her because they think transgender people shouldnt play elite level sports where it is fair for them and there competitors.
    Testosterone puberty does not = skill
    Hrt causes long term musculature changes that onset rapidly from the start.

    People that say "he" when talking about Natilie are evil (no excuse)

    I think God created everyone with a purpose. Each with different perspectives and lessons to learn in life. How dare you spend your short time on this earth trying to be bitter and angry at people you dont understand.

  14. Food for thought: It just so happens that Ryan is filing this court document in California of all states, where the judges tend to lean more pro-trans athletes.

  15. The state of Cali enforced their own rules. The PDGA should enforce rules also. Transgenders can play in the M[mixed]PO, if they play in the F[female]PO, disqualify them. What do you think?

  16. Not a fan… this whole situation has simply become political… I say open the doors wide open and let MPO play in the women’s division if they identify! That’s what will show the ridiculous nonsense these folks wish to force on everyone. 😢

  17. EXCUSE ME! HELLO!!!! EVERYBODY PAY ATTENTION HERE. THIS "NATALIE RYAN" IS A MAN! HE CAN'T EVER CHANGE THAT, EVER! IT WILL NEVER EVER MATTER WHAT HE THINKS OR DOES, HE WILL ALWAYS BE A MAN. THERE IS NO SURJURY THAT WILL EVER CHANGE THAT! ANYBODY THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS COMPLETE NONSENCE IS AN IDIOT. HOW SOMEONE "FEELS" DOES NOT CHANGE REALITY.

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