A deep dive into some of the stories surrounding the olympic sport of fencing.
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0:00 intro
0:38 Cannone’s Olympic Breakthrough
1:31 Indian Circle Fencing
1:53 Korean Coach
2:13 Kim Junghwan doping
2:46 Rigged epee
3:17 Teammates to enemies
3:50 Polish Spy
4:34 Rousset switches nationality
5:08 Budapest 2019 referees
7:17 Lokhanov-Pozdnyakova divorce
8:02 Paola Pliego suspension
8:50 FIE shouts down Sweden
10:33 Corrupt referees?
11:25 Russian Box of Death
12:35 Return of the sabre flèche
14:29 Paper federations
15:36 Alisher Usmanov
17:36 Vitaly Logvin
19:10 Vote for Russian return
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This one took a lot of time to put together, hope you find it interesting…
Bro this is God's work
Nice
Regarding Cannone, could the recent changes to epee also have helped (in addition to Jerent being dropped). Rule changes can absolutely help or her an individual fencer.
It would be awesome to see Lohkanov fence for the US. I can imagine the field being very competitive for spots on the team, given both Heathcocks fence for the US.
No joke… that warm up footwork training song is used at my club from time to time.
This is amazing, any seriously competitive fencer with aims at taking to the national and international stage should watch this as education. Like all sport, it gets ugly and political the deeper you go. A lot of stories here of dedicated sportsmen being deterred by the powers that be, cautionary tales for Olympic hopefuls as well as potential FIE referees. I've always thought Usmanov being the kingpin of world fencing is a terrible precedent, of course the corruption of a Putin-wed Oligarch will trickle down to all avenues of the sport. Yet the free world has and will continue look the other way for that sweet Russian cashola. Take note, take care.
This is awesome!
Awesome video, thank you for this
Let's go
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Another interesting stories that has yet to be included (if you ever considering making a continuation, that is)
1. Andrea Baldini's positive doping result that disqualified him from 2008 Olympic qualification (that somehow many people believe him not doping), which resulted in Andrea Cassara going to Peking instead, which Cassara also made comment about it (which some considered it inappropriate, further increasing support for Baldini) which resulted in arguably unhealthy rivalry between the two that lasts for years. Baldini being the highest ranking Italian foilist (from what I've heard) certainly didn't help either
2. Shin A-lam's defeat at 2012 London at the hand of Britta Heidemann that happened because of referee's mistake (yes, I argue thus happened courtesy of mistake in refereeing) that arguably cause FIE to implement fractional second in the timer for referee and audience to see. Some conspiracy theorists make accusation that the referee in Shin-Heidemann bout commited favoritism (for lack of better words) in favor of Heidemann and it's all rigged to ensure Heidemann's smooth sailing to podium because said referee presided Heidemann's bouts three times in a row (I haven't confirmed this "fact" but since it's epee, the claim is pretty much unsubstantiated even if it was true)
Occasionally strange things happen around olympic qualification as well. Sometimes a national federation decline to nominate a fencer who HAS QUALIFIED and hence they are not allowed to go, even if they want to. I don't know the details exactly but I recall this happening in 2008 when a Swiss fencer (?) was not nominated after failing to make an L32 at the Europeans in the same year(?). Richard Kruse got her slot as a wildcard and finished 14th. How upset would you be that you had achieved the IOC/FIE qualifying standard but your national federation declined to nominate you!?
This is actually super good and interesting
I know these kind of videos generally get lots of views, commenting to try and help achieve it 🫡 dope video as well!
As a HEMA practitioner who recently started fencing, your confusion when hearing of people fighting in a circle is quite funny to me xD
This is amazing, well done!
Unique fencing channel. Pls keep uploading 🤝
And here I thought that the FIE was relatively speaking one of the less corrupt organizations. Still corrupt, obviously, but less so than others. Now, I'm pretty sure they're just as bad as the bigger ones. Great work on the video!
In the next part you can maybe include the shin a lam and brita heideman controversu, 2015 world dolniceanu vs homer when dolniceanu clearly hit but there was a technical problem and the touch wasnt registered, at the 2022 jwc in Belgrade in the mens team epee semifinal (usa vs egypt) when elsayed hit himself and referee gave a touch to elsayed and the ariana errigo controversy about not being allowed to compete in both sabre and foil
Superb video. Good job.
so basically Russia is currently the most controversial country for fencing xd
As an Indian even I didn't knew there was a circle fencing federation here but now ik thanks to u
13:54 where can I find the full song?
I’m a little confused about the touch where Kim junho crossed and then both of them hit, so if the touch for junho was annulled would it be a touch for Aron because he hit as well (but without right of way) or because he had the right of way? Just asking this because I was wondering if this was a general rule, not too familiar with saber
Great video!
It has already been mentioned, but Heidemann-Shin needs to be in the sequel video. As does passivity and Melis Loits in Nimes (you did a video in that already, right?).
And maybe this is too morbid, but Smirnov‘s death is a major turning point in modern fencing.
the footwork training song had me crying hahah
really well done video gj ! hoping for more of these coming