Joe's come forward style was tailored made for Zhang's southpaw jab and hooks. I agree, I thought he would've tried to pick his angles from the outside. Then again, Zhang's long reach would've been a big obstacle. I believe boxing should be about hit and not get hit. Joe's open defence will always cause him problems. As for Zhang, he'll give the big 4 a run for their money.
Zhang vs Fury in China? If the government puts up money maybe we can get that fight but Fury would have to box Zhang like he did Klitschko but it’s different as Zhang is a southpaw and Zhang isn’t scared to let his hands go. Fury also can’t maul him on the inside. Fury may not fancy that fight. And Usyk could box and move against zhang but Zhang is stronger then Joshua and has more confidence in his chin. Southpaw vs Southpaw would be interesting like when Charles Martin faced Luis Ortiz-it’s different when you don’t have the angle advantage.
there is not many or none of asian heavy weight boxers-there for im very happy for zang.joyce was just super slo mo.whats the point losing weight if your not faster man??/ zang could finish joyce faster if he would trow more
2016 medalist still undefeated-Filip Hrgovic and Ivan Dychko. Hrgovic should face frank Sanchez for thr IBF interim to prove he can beat a mover. Dychko is with probellum so is Bakhodir Jalolov who is a big name olympic gold medalist but also a guy Dychko beat 5/5 times in the amateurs. If Dychko can’t get that fight and steal his shine I’d advise him to sign to Top rank or Queensbury to face the top western fighters.
Zhang impressed me. And fun to see another one of Frank Warren fighters loose, And another British fighter loose. Joyce looked really slow, missed almost all of his punches, and he cant block punches with his face like he does. That said the judging in this fight was terrible. British boxing is becoming a disgrace. The heavyweight division is very unpredictable now, so Im not a bit surprised that Zhang beat Joyce.
No disrespect to Zhang but I expected a resounding ko win for Joyce. I only heard of Zhang because of his fight with Hrgovic. After Joyce destroyed Parker the way he did, I really thought he'd demolish any other contender and get a title fight but Zhang pulled off a huge upset. This also shows how tough Filip Hrgovic is. I don't think any of the elite guys i.e. Fury, Usyk, Wilder, Ruiz Jr. are looking forward to a fight with Zhang because it's high risk & low reward.
Fury will avoid Zhang and act like he already has him beat and brain dead fan boys will eat it up. We saw what Wallin did to Fury and Fury clearly has issues with southpaws. Zhang hit’s insurmountably harder than Wallin is taller and doesn’t telegraph the left at all. His short shots on the inside are deadly so every time Fury would try to clinch he is getting nailed and zhang is to big for Fury to lean on and drape his flabby physique on to tire him out.
Have Queensbury poorly advised / sacrificed Joyce for the Chinese market, as one of the Warren sons mentioned post fight they have options on zhang… wouldn’t be the first time they’ve tried ied to throw him to the wolves
Joe needs to be careful with them eyes and make sure he's not suffered any long term damage 🧠 coz Zhang's Left U could hear that Slap as it landed. Jj took sm big shots.
Joe Joyce's movement clearly isn't good enough. It's even worser than Joshua. Zhang must of thrown as least 20 straight left hands and Joyce got caught flush by most of them. Joyce has to judge distance better than that. Although Zhang has a fast arm it's not like Zhang was dynamic in the ring, he's not Pacquiao. Where was Joyce's head movement? His head got Tilted.
I always thought Joyce was right for the picking!!! You can't go fight after fight thinking you can just 🚶 through punches!!! Dubois was winning in their fight and just ⛽ gas out!!! Wasn't ready for a tough fight!! But all the top level Heavyweights guys could and would beat Joyce!!!
I'm not impressed by either JJ or Zhang, they are both slow and lacking movents in head and foot. Anybody with both foot, body and head movements whilst throwing their hands beats them both all day everyday.
Wilder vs Zhang it'll be over in 2 rounds Zhang is tailor made to be knocked out by Wilder, Joyce looked weak af against Zhang he should activate the rematch get himself 💯ready and fight Zhang again i don't buy that this Chinese dude is that good, he looked the better of 2 extremely slow guys yes but that wasn't the Joyce who demolished Parker something wasn't right with Joyce on Saturday, I'd actually bet money Joseph Parker would annihilate Zhang with relative ease never mind the likes of Fury Wilder and Joshua, people are talking about Zhang now in the same way they talked about Ruiz after he beat Joshua lol in my opinion Ruiz would beat Zhang that would be a fair match up or Dillian Whyte vs Zhang i think that would be a even battle
Joyce's career in tatters, Zhang deserved the win no doubt. The injury stopped Joyce taking the fight to the later rounds where the big Chinaman is known to tire badly.
In the very unlikely event that Fury did agree to fight Zang in China, the Chinese would be putting a new item on the menu: crispy fried yellow-belly duck, big-bang style. 😂
Hi Hatman, if you have time watch the new interview with Hrgovic. He calls "Bricktop" Warren "a piece of sh…". He s really mad at him. And he pointed out iFl TV deleted his interview with them most probably because he called Frank that way. It would just underline how afraid iFL TV and these people are when Warren gets mad.
I think in addition to the wrong approach to the fight. For the first few rounds, joyce did not have this fight or flight mentality. My impression that he underestimated Zhang ability, thinking (joyce) that he will put it on him, and not get caught with few shots. I think joyce has a good chin, but he mentally has to be prepared for it. Joyce and hergovic are at the same level, even though they have different styles, but the main difference that determined the outcome of their fight against Zhang is their ages(joyce vs. hergovic)
Joe Joyce trains in the Gym NOT to move his head comes in a straight line & he's very stiff at the hips.. That's a recipe for disaster ..Joyce was more focused on AJ then Zhang. Big mistake in boxing ignoring the opponent in front of you & focusing on another opponent.
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Joyce got smashed !! A one sided beating …..Joshua beats both of them easy..
Joe's come forward style was tailored made for Zhang's southpaw jab and hooks. I agree, I thought he would've tried to pick his angles from the outside. Then again, Zhang's long reach would've been a big obstacle. I believe boxing should be about hit and not get hit. Joe's open defence will always cause him problems. As for Zhang, he'll give the big 4 a run for their money.
Dwyer is the man
Joyce was slow and sloppy with his punches
Zhang vs Fury in China? If the government puts up money maybe we can get that fight but Fury would have to box Zhang like he did Klitschko but it’s different as Zhang is a southpaw and Zhang isn’t scared to let his hands go. Fury also can’t maul him on the inside. Fury may not fancy that fight. And Usyk could box and move against zhang but Zhang is stronger then Joshua and has more confidence in his chin. Southpaw vs Southpaw would be interesting like when Charles Martin faced Luis Ortiz-it’s different when you don’t have the angle advantage.
there is not many or none of asian heavy weight boxers-there for im very happy for zang.joyce was just super slo mo.whats the point losing weight if your not faster man??/ zang could finish joyce faster if he would trow more
Let's see Zhang v Ortiz and then maybe Ortiz can finally be dropped from the top 20
This guys is so underrated even at the age of 39 crazy
2016 medalist still undefeated-Filip Hrgovic and Ivan Dychko. Hrgovic should face frank Sanchez for thr IBF interim to prove he can beat a mover. Dychko is with probellum so is Bakhodir Jalolov who is a big name olympic gold medalist but also a guy Dychko beat 5/5 times in the amateurs. If Dychko can’t get that fight and steal his shine I’d advise him to sign to Top rank or Queensbury to face the top western fighters.
Zhang impressed me. And fun to see another one of Frank Warren fighters loose, And another British fighter loose.
Joyce looked really slow, missed almost all of his punches, and he cant block punches with his face like he does.
That said the judging in this fight was terrible. British boxing is becoming a disgrace.
The heavyweight division is very unpredictable now, so Im not a bit surprised that Zhang beat Joyce.
I disagree that Zhang beat Hrgovic. Zhang was way too inactive in most of the rounds. Even with the KD, He didn't win enough rounds.
Joyce looked old in this fight, which considering he is younger than Zhang surprised me.
Zhang is certainly a lot better than the 80’s which I think is where he is ranked in one list. That Joyce eye reminded me of Golota from years ago.
No disrespect to Zhang but I expected a resounding ko win for Joyce. I only heard of Zhang because of his fight with Hrgovic. After Joyce destroyed Parker the way he did, I really thought he'd demolish any other contender and get a title fight but Zhang pulled off a huge upset. This also shows how tough Filip Hrgovic is. I don't think any of the elite guys i.e. Fury, Usyk, Wilder, Ruiz Jr. are looking forward to a fight with Zhang because it's high risk & low reward.
Fury will avoid Zhang and act like he already has him beat and brain dead fan boys will eat it up. We saw what Wallin did to Fury and Fury clearly has issues with southpaws. Zhang hit’s insurmountably harder than Wallin is taller and doesn’t telegraph the left at all. His short shots on the inside are deadly so every time Fury would try to clinch he is getting nailed and zhang is to big for Fury to lean on and drape his flabby physique on to tire him out.
Is it just me or had zhang got that Corrie sanders left hand lol
Have Queensbury poorly advised / sacrificed Joyce for the Chinese market, as one of the Warren sons mentioned post fight they have options on zhang… wouldn’t be the first time they’ve tried ied to throw him to the wolves
Bottom line is SLOW JOE was just another hyped up English boxer.
Frank Sanchez is by far better boxer than Joyce… but nobody talks about him
Joe needs to be careful with them eyes and make sure he's not suffered any long term damage 🧠 coz Zhang's Left U could hear that Slap as it landed. Jj took sm big shots.
Dwyer is a proper OG.. way back in the Hatton days haha.
Joyce only two weapon is stamina and chin his boxing is not great.
One of the judges had Joyce ahead on the score cards
I suspect Fury would do a better job against Joyce than Zhang.
i was surprised by zhang hes better than i thought,i had joyce to for a 6 round knock out,fair play to zhang !
Both are old bums, this era is worse than klits era🤦
Joyce vs wardley/Clarke winner?
Joe Joyce's movement clearly isn't good enough. It's even worser than Joshua. Zhang must of thrown as least 20 straight left hands and Joyce got caught flush by most of them. Joyce has to judge distance better than that. Although Zhang has a fast arm it's not like Zhang was dynamic in the ring, he's not Pacquiao. Where was Joyce's head movement? His head got Tilted.
Hrgovic beats Aj
I always thought Joyce was right for the picking!!! You can't go fight after fight thinking you can just 🚶 through punches!!! Dubois was winning in their fight and just ⛽ gas out!!! Wasn't ready for a tough fight!! But all the top level Heavyweights guys could and would beat Joyce!!!
Chances of Joe Joyce being knocked out by Anthony Joshua are high
I'm not impressed by either JJ or Zhang, they are both slow and lacking movents in head and foot.
Anybody with both foot, body and head movements whilst throwing their hands beats them both all day everyday.
Joe Joyce fights like a smaller man than he is. He also does not move his head at all.
Wilder vs Zhang it'll be over in 2 rounds Zhang is tailor made to be knocked out by Wilder, Joyce looked weak af against Zhang he should activate the rematch get himself 💯ready and fight Zhang again i don't buy that this Chinese dude is that good, he looked the better of 2 extremely slow guys yes but that wasn't the Joyce who demolished Parker something wasn't right with Joyce on Saturday, I'd actually bet money Joseph Parker would annihilate Zhang with relative ease never mind the likes of Fury Wilder and Joshua, people are talking about Zhang now in the same way they talked about Ruiz after he beat Joshua lol in my opinion Ruiz would beat Zhang that would be a fair match up or Dillian Whyte vs Zhang i think that would be a even battle
Why did Joyce's power seem sapped, no real big punches, zhang is good but joyce looked like he could hurt a light weight in that fight
Ah well Joyce this, Joyce that.
Joyce's career in tatters, Zhang deserved the win no doubt. The injury stopped Joyce taking the fight to the later rounds where the big Chinaman is known to tire badly.
Joyce seemed out of it. No punches..no movement..something was not right
Can Hatman get through a full video (that's got nothing to do with him) without mentioning Tyson Fury…..na he spent half the video going on about him.
In the very unlikely event that Fury did agree to fight Zang in China, the Chinese would be putting a new item on the menu:
crispy fried yellow-belly duck, big-bang style. 😂
If bolo yeung was a boxer
Imagine zhang vs wilder, an absolute shootout!
Hrgovic is a beast he’d beat Joyce up
Hi Hatman, if you have time watch the new interview with Hrgovic. He calls "Bricktop" Warren "a piece of sh…". He s really mad at him. And he pointed out iFl TV deleted his interview with them most probably because he called Frank that way. It would just underline how afraid iFL TV and these people are when Warren gets mad.
I thought zhang won that hergovic fight
I think in addition to the wrong approach to the fight. For the first few rounds, joyce did not have this fight or flight mentality. My impression that he underestimated Zhang ability, thinking (joyce) that he will put it on him, and not get caught with few shots. I think joyce has a good chin, but he mentally has to be prepared for it. Joyce and hergovic are at the same level, even though they have different styles, but the main difference that determined the outcome of their fight against Zhang is their ages(joyce vs. hergovic)
Joe Joyce trains in the Gym NOT to move his head comes in a straight line & he's very stiff at the hips.. That's a recipe for disaster ..Joyce was more focused on AJ then Zhang. Big mistake in boxing ignoring the opponent in front of you & focusing on another opponent.