Phil Mickelson, Brooks Koepka, and Patrick Reed represented LIV Golf well by finishing in the top 10 at the Masters. Did this strong showing prove that the doubts around LIV players maintaining a competitive edge were unfounded?
I thought CBS announcers did a good coverage and was very fair to LIV players, even somewhat golf channel did. The Masters made clear to them not to create division ! I wish they would of threw that woman usa today reporter off the property as she did not comply with the MASTERS request.
Love LIV! Does it outshine the Majors? No of course not, but it is great to have between the Majors! PGA Tournaments between the majors are a little lackluster. GO LIV! Masters Purse $18 Mil. LIV Tucson Event? 25 Million! That makes for some excitement! The majors should always be about the BEST of the Best PERIOD!
I am a lifetime golfer and I’ve never watched more of the masters than this week. I was hooked. Great stuff and an obvious decision to have the best golfers play.
LIV is nothing more than a tour. It has a different format and it pays the people money up front. It has a team format plays shorter events and does some different things to try and generate interest in the game. While I am not a fan of the format, Greg Norman, Saudi backed anything, or the bad mouthing the PGA thing, if players want to participate in it, good for them. It doesn't detract from past accomplishments or their competitive nature. I think they should be able to compete in Majors if they have earned that right, but they need to stick to golf and keep their opinions about the PGA to themselves. You cant bite the hand that's paying you.
Doesn't PGA linked board members have the majority in the world ranking committee? So not sure LIV will get ranking points anytime soon unless there's pressure from the Masters and other majors who use it. And I'm hearing this may happen simply for the sake of the future of the sport.
It’s so tough finding unbiased golf LIV/PGA content. We don’t get it from the media and the liv guys can go too far the other way. Keep at it and this channel will explode as liv gets larger
I don't understand the division between Liv and the PGA tour. Why not host a competitive event between the two tours. Think of the money it would generate. Sponsored, charities, club manufacturers, apparel, the game itself all win. Talk about growing the game. They are leaving a lot of money on the table over a grade school squabble.
OWGR has a huge astrix over it now . If the majors continue to use OWGR and even top 30 Fed Ex for entry then 24 majors will be astrixed. Remember 31% of worlds top 100 as from 12 months ago are not on PGAT. That puts astrix against this year's Fed Ex that's just fact . Give live 5 spots per major plus exemptions and find away to fix ranking. Remember the job of the OWGR is to rank players not for players to meet a criteria .
These players became top players in the pga not in LIV. Is not that the LIV is keeping them competitive..the LIV pretty much took most great players..so of course some will stil preforme very well.
All LIV players are past PGA pros who got their start thru PGA efforts at growing the game so there's no denying the link between the two. Those who played in the Masters have been there before and performed just like players have in the past. Some good, some not so good, and many disappointed their respective fans. Let the blame game begin. Again. But in this day and age when all pro sports are under a cloud for paying outrageous salaries and then having to put up with outrageous player behavior the natural response is to view those players as necessary risk that teams take in order to win. For LIV, their team is the PIF, an unnatural heritage for PGA fans to support. So when the media is given the blame for promoting a narrative that attempts to put LIV players in a negative light, try to reflect on the first months of LIV's rude and bullying tactics which were led by the second coming of a Greg Norman mutiny.
I suppose in some circles choking off a four-shot lead can be considered to be "shining". Two years ago before his year of non-competitive play, Keopka would have finished that off with a green jacket.
I just found this channel and couldn’t be happier to find unbiased golf reporting. Unlike The Golf Channel that has become the Fox News of golf only reporting their/PGA interest. The success and satisfaction from the Masters coverage just goes to show that this is what everyone wants to see and not including the LIV players to get the best players competing is travesty that the PGA is not on board. It appears that they are self serving and frankly, are the ones ruining golf, not LIV as most are saying. The OWGR and Ryder Cup are also complicit and needs to change or they will also become a joke. Please continue to become the source where we can tune in for all inclusive, unbiased golf news on all tours.
LIV golfers should be allowed to play EVERY PGA venue – enough of bad mouthing them – they wanted to earn money – if Woods would have went to LIV -PGA would not have objected – but he knew he is finished & would not be able to play – so Woods – Jack – Rory – Couples & others ran their mouths & the whole world fell in order to them – PGA is being run by Woods n Jack – 2 creeps – the LIV golf is in the 21st Century the way they dress n play – none of this somber funeral parlor stuff with Nantz – i just do not like the loud music – no need for it other than that i watch LIV over PGA unless Phil is there – so there !!
How you also have Jokic as one of the mvps but not one of the 3 forwards in the 1st team all NBA? Or does the all NBA have a specific spot for centers?
2 comments.. 12 of 18 LIV players made the cut so the discussion about ability is over. Second comment is Adelaide LIV sold out months ago, The product works and IMHO is fun to watch
lots of people talk about WGC match play event being a great fun event and its going away. my question to the pga tour ONLY fan's who say that, is why is it fun and okay to enjoy a different formate of golf on one Tour but not okay on another tour, with quality players in both fields. thats the part that really hurts as a fan of golf. i don't understand any of this stuff, why people think somehow because Amazon comes along that must mean, Walmart is going to totally be destroyed. who can say that with a straight face. its total nonsense and hurts to hear grown ups try to make these points
It’s a non story because Phil was so many shots behind. There were absolutely no pressure on him during the round. Comebacks from 10 shots behind has only happened 1 time in professional golfing history. The largest, final-round, come-from-behind victory in PGA Tour history happened in a major championship that is more famous for the other guy's collapse. The major is the 1999 British Open. The "other guy," the leader after the third round, was Jean Van de Velde. In other words Phil couldn’t have expected a similar outcome so there wasn’t any pressure on Phil trying to catch up. He hasn't been able to compete in any LIV tournaments. He has no top 30 finishes. Think about that?!? – with only 48 players in the field:) He was so far behind the leader at Augusta before the final day that there were no pressure on him at all! He was never close and lost by 4 shots which is a lot in golfing terms. Phil is playing his worst golf right now so it seems obvious that he was winging it this last round and got lucky but was never in contention. Now he is parading around when he was never in the lead or close to winning. Such an attention seeking cry baby! WAaaaaaa
SERLEENA is a million year old invisible tardigrade projecting itself as the stunning Avatar shell you see as a super model with your 4 digit no comma 2023 focus. Is there life in space you're not consciously measuring to be there? How can you have a perspective of scale, until you step off the one-2023-you were put on? Is the ground there? Is the 4,600,000,000 years it has "recorded" as being there "now playing" in your conscious moment? Then you have never had a conscious moment.
When you act upon space-2023-that is "not there" your reality becomes unreal, because the information you're receiving has been made by reason formed by a void and the ego. The void is on your Birth Certificate where the age you reached to get the paper saying you reached an age, and there is no age on your Birth Certificate, and you have no Zero Birthday Card-0-you have no Halo-0. Put your Halo-0-on, because when you change your beginning-0-you change everything! 2023 is not there, because there are tree's there, 5,000 years, and the years the stick says is there must be our there, too, or we are not listening to life. Logic begins at zero, and you weren't, so you could be controlled by 2023's nonsense, forever. Your 2023 has no comma, and you have no Zero Birthday Card, even though the day you're born is your Birthday. Roman numerals have no comma or zero, too, which means a Roman over 2,000 years ago is telling you how far you can think. FYI- I just proved your entire existence is just "one" Star-Trek Episode. nana nana………who am I? The 9-3-60 Twilight Zone is the secret precursor to the 1962 The Manchurian Candidate, and only James of Twelve Monkeys aka MJ-12 could tell you so.
The Legend didn't release the movie because my Grandfather's fishing buddy, Dwight D. asked him not to, to protect me, as I was still on a secret mission in Antarctica, by choice or not, i still know not, but I have memory of landing the craft near Kecksburg PA December 1965, so that makes me the only human to land a UFO on U.S. soil. Ahem. That makes me Contact.
You can only see what you measure to be. Is the beyond beyond you? Then define the beyond as your now by writing the Beyonds Math 10,000,000,002,023 as your now, after, all, if all of time is happening at once, how can you see what is happening if you're not looking at all of time: 10,000,000,002,023 in your every moment? When you define Eternity with math: 10,000,000,002,023 then you are defined by Eternity's Math, and when Eternity is defining you, you are immortal.
Kanter NBA player speaks against what is going on in Turkey and the NBA praises him, some people complained, he checked into it and found the same bad things were happing in China. The NBA told him to shut UP. The NBA has way…………. mor money to lose from China. Why is no one talking about this????? Sorry it is always about the money.
I believe at the end of the day that it is so much easier for golf fans to turn on the tv and watch the PGA Tour. I watched a lot of the LIV Golf on Youtube last year but now it isn't as easily accessible.
I picked the top 5 to be LIV golfers ,but DJ and Cam were playing at the fat cats course,boy they let lots of fans down,they were not ready for prime time or anytime,fellows you have to practice which you didn’t do ,wow I was so disappointed with you both,Phil,Patrick,Brook great job guys you were ready to play.Congratulations to Jon he is number 1 for sure.
Liv golfers are just PGA golfers, that went for a paycheck. Liv hasn't produced any masters level talent Liv golfers come threw the ranks of the PGA their going to golf at that level, no surprise
What would happen if to Golf if the LIV players are banned from Major Tournaments in the future? It will make the PGA and major tournaments look bad. Like they are afraid to compete or will not compete.
I think Golf will owe a debt of gratitude to one Golfer. Woods? No, I'm not talking about Woods. I'm talking about the one who shall remain nameless. And I bet most of what has transpired over the past year or so was far from a surprise to him.
There is one thing that Liv Golf does that the PGA doesn't do, or has not done in the past. Golfers will not try to ignore LIV Golfers for long. They can't.
This Masters was not a fluke. Wait til Abraham Ancer or Juagin Neiman (can't even spell his name right) or Danny Lee, etc. win a huge tournament? For the powers that be, or that have been, in the Golf world it is a Catch 22. The Golf Powers that be will say: "HOLD on a minute bucko! These other players are not grandfathered in. They can't play the top tournaments in the world against OUR players! (We OWN GOLF!)." Imagine that coming out more and more. Catch 22…..
I feel very, very, very sorry for how people feel about the LIV players and Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately, your leaders in the U.S. are totally in bed with SA and have been for a long time, even 9-11. For the pipe smokers out there, put that in your pipe and smoke it because you do whether you want to or not. How much are you not paying at the pump now? Hmmmmm?????? Just one very small example. And when that very favorite journalist in the Masters press conference brought this up (and most assuredly this was pre-planned) – THAT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE. Always is when you bring something up and it explodes in your face, which it will if it has not already. Don't bring stuff up that implicates YOU! The Chairman should have known better and I suspect he did. I wonder if he warned them about this in advance, that it really wasnt' a good idea and that IF that is your ace in the hole, you're losing that card game.
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I thought CBS announcers did a good coverage and was very fair to LIV players, even somewhat golf channel did. The Masters made clear to them not to create division ! I wish they would of threw that woman usa today reporter off the property as she did not comply with the MASTERS request.
Competition is Good
Love LIV! Does it outshine the Majors? No of course not, but it is great to have between the Majors! PGA Tournaments between the majors are a little lackluster. GO LIV! Masters Purse $18 Mil. LIV Tucson Event? 25 Million! That makes for some excitement! The majors should always be about the BEST of the Best PERIOD!
I am a lifetime golfer and I’ve never watched more of the masters than this week. I was hooked. Great stuff and an obvious decision to have the best golfers play.
LIV is nothing more than a tour. It has a different format and it pays the people money up front. It has a team format plays shorter events and does some different things to try and generate interest in the game. While I am not a fan of the format, Greg Norman, Saudi backed anything, or the bad mouthing the PGA thing, if players want to participate in it, good for them. It doesn't detract from past accomplishments or their competitive nature. I think they should be able to compete in Majors if they have earned that right, but they need to stick to golf and keep their opinions about the PGA to themselves. You cant bite the hand that's paying you.
Doesn't PGA linked board members have the majority in the world ranking committee? So not sure LIV will get ranking points anytime soon unless there's pressure from the Masters and other majors who use it. And I'm hearing this may happen simply for the sake of the future of the sport.
1:16 you are not the media! You are actual reporters and completely unbiased! From everything I have seen.
Phil comes out wearing High Flyer’s, great job Phil.
It’s so tough finding unbiased golf LIV/PGA content. We don’t get it from the media and the liv guys can go too far the other way. Keep at it and this channel will explode as liv gets larger
They are actually PGA former players! Liv was never in existence to have players therefore liv golfers don't exist!😊
I don't understand the division between Liv and the PGA tour.
Why not host a competitive event between the two tours.
Think of the money it would generate. Sponsored, charities, club manufacturers, apparel, the game itself all win. Talk about growing the game.
They are leaving a lot of money on the table over a grade school squabble.
OWGR has a huge astrix over it now . If the majors continue to use OWGR and even top 30 Fed Ex for entry then 24 majors will be astrixed. Remember 31% of worlds top 100 as from 12 months ago are not on PGAT. That puts astrix against this year's Fed Ex that's just fact . Give live 5 spots per major plus exemptions and find away to fix ranking. Remember the job of the OWGR is to rank players not for players to meet a criteria .
Not sure how the Masters could justify prohibiting LIV players from participating when amateurs are allow to play.
So what. 7 PGA players finished in the Top 10. That's more impressive.
These players became top players in the pga not in LIV. Is not that the LIV is keeping them competitive..the LIV pretty much took most great players..so of course some will stil preforme very well.
You know what's funny, the spokesman for the PGA tour missed the cut. Time to hit the range Rory.
All LIV players are past PGA pros who got their start thru PGA efforts at growing the game so there's no denying the link between the two. Those who played in the Masters have been there before and performed just like players have in the past. Some good, some not so good, and many disappointed their respective fans. Let the blame game begin. Again.
But in this day and age when all pro sports are under a cloud for paying outrageous salaries and then having to put up with outrageous player behavior the natural response is to view those players as necessary risk that teams take in order to win. For LIV, their team is the PIF, an unnatural heritage for PGA fans to support. So when the media is given the blame for promoting a narrative that attempts to put LIV players in a negative light, try to reflect on the first months of LIV's rude and bullying tactics which were led by the second coming of a Greg Norman mutiny.
Love LIV GOLF, Format is great, great fan experience, players wear shorts, team format, great players. GO LIV
I suppose in some circles choking off a four-shot lead can be considered to be "shining". Two years ago before his year of non-competitive play, Keopka would have finished that off with a green jacket.
bravo Matt balanced
LIV needs the equipment companies involved with the teams. Then it will work. Saudis should just buy a couple brands to get the ball rolling
I just found this channel and couldn’t be happier to find unbiased golf reporting. Unlike The Golf Channel that has become the Fox News of golf only reporting their/PGA interest. The success and satisfaction from the Masters coverage just goes to show that this is what everyone wants to see and not including the LIV players to get the best players competing is travesty that the PGA is not on board. It appears that they are self serving and frankly, are the ones ruining golf, not LIV as most are saying. The OWGR and Ryder Cup are also complicit and needs to change or they will also become a joke. Please continue to become the source where we can tune in for all inclusive, unbiased golf news on all tours.
LIV golfers should be allowed to play EVERY PGA venue – enough of bad mouthing them – they wanted to earn money – if Woods would have went to LIV -PGA would not have objected – but he knew he is finished & would not be able to play – so Woods – Jack – Rory – Couples & others ran their mouths & the whole world fell in order to them – PGA is being run by Woods n Jack – 2 creeps – the LIV golf is in the 21st Century the way they dress n play – none of this somber funeral parlor stuff with Nantz – i just do not like the loud music – no need for it other than that i watch LIV over PGA unless Phil is there – so there !!
Phil on Sunday… was a revenge round. No doubt he had a chip on his shoulder.
Its was so fun to watch!
How you also have Jokic as one of the mvps but not one of the 3 forwards in the 1st team all NBA? Or does the all NBA have a specific spot for centers?
2 comments.. 12 of 18 LIV players made the cut so the discussion about ability is over. Second comment is Adelaide LIV sold out months ago, The product works and IMHO is fun to watch
lots of people talk about WGC match play event being a great fun event and its going away. my question to the pga tour ONLY fan's who say that, is why is it fun and okay to enjoy a different formate of golf on one Tour but not okay on another tour, with quality players in both fields. thats the part that really hurts as a fan of golf.
i don't understand any of this stuff, why people think somehow because Amazon comes along that must mean, Walmart is going to totally be destroyed. who can say that with a straight face. its total nonsense and hurts to hear grown ups try to make these points
How can the PGA Championship be still be considered a major – without the LIV star golfers who basically dominated the Open & Masters?
It’s a non story because Phil was so many shots behind. There were absolutely no pressure on him during the round. Comebacks from 10 shots behind has only happened 1 time in professional golfing history. The largest, final-round, come-from-behind victory in PGA Tour history happened in a major championship that is more famous for the other guy's collapse. The major is the 1999 British Open. The "other guy," the leader after the third round, was Jean Van de Velde. In other words Phil couldn’t have expected a similar outcome so there wasn’t any pressure on Phil trying to catch up. He hasn't been able to compete in any LIV tournaments. He has no top 30 finishes. Think about that?!? – with only 48 players in the field:) He was so far behind the leader at Augusta before the final day that there were no pressure on him at all! He was never close and lost by 4 shots which is a lot in golfing terms. Phil is playing his worst golf right now so it seems obvious that he was winging it this last round and got lucky but was never in contention. Now he is parading around when he was never in the lead or close to winning. Such an attention seeking cry baby! WAaaaaaa
Jordans mind shuts off like certain NFL players pants have come off since Gisele split from Brady. Gisele is SERLEENA of MIB-2.
SERLEENA is a million year old invisible tardigrade projecting itself as the stunning Avatar shell you see as a super model with your 4 digit no comma 2023 focus. Is there life in space you're not consciously measuring to be there? How can you have a perspective of scale, until you step off the one-2023-you were put on? Is the ground there? Is the 4,600,000,000 years it has "recorded" as being there "now playing" in your conscious moment? Then you have never had a conscious moment.
When you act upon space-2023-that is "not there" your reality becomes unreal, because the information you're receiving has been made by reason formed by a void and the ego. The void is on your Birth Certificate where the age you reached to get the paper saying you reached an age, and there is no age on your Birth Certificate, and you have no Zero Birthday Card-0-you have no Halo-0. Put your Halo-0-on, because when you change your beginning-0-you change everything! 2023 is not there, because there are tree's there, 5,000 years, and the years the stick says is there must be our there, too, or we are not listening to life. Logic begins at zero, and you weren't, so you could be controlled by 2023's nonsense, forever. Your 2023 has no comma, and you have no Zero Birthday Card, even though the day you're born is your Birthday. Roman numerals have no comma or zero, too, which means a Roman over 2,000 years ago is telling you how far you can think. FYI- I just proved your entire existence is just "one" Star-Trek Episode. nana nana………who am I? The 9-3-60 Twilight Zone is the secret precursor to the 1962 The Manchurian Candidate, and only James of Twelve Monkeys aka MJ-12 could tell you so.
The Legend didn't release the movie because my Grandfather's fishing buddy, Dwight D. asked him not to, to protect me, as I was still on a secret mission in Antarctica, by choice or not, i still know not, but I have memory of landing the craft near Kecksburg PA December 1965, so that makes me the only human to land a UFO on U.S. soil. Ahem. That makes me Contact.
You can only see what you measure to be. Is the beyond beyond you? Then define the beyond as your now by writing the Beyonds Math 10,000,000,002,023 as your now, after, all, if all of time is happening at once, how can you see what is happening if you're not looking at all of time: 10,000,000,002,023 in your every moment? When you define Eternity with math: 10,000,000,002,023 then you are defined by Eternity's Math, and when Eternity is defining you, you are immortal.
Just 3 players from LIV ? What about all the others who didn't even make the cut? LIV players cannot competeagainst the current PGA leaders.
Kanter NBA player speaks against what is going on in Turkey and the NBA praises him, some people complained, he checked into it and found the same bad things were happing in China. The NBA told him to shut UP. The NBA has way…………. mor money to lose from China. Why is no one talking about this????? Sorry it is always about the money.
Oh, so now it’s about shining? What happened to growing the game and playing less?
I believe at the end of the day that it is so much easier for golf fans to turn on the tv and watch the PGA Tour. I watched a lot of the LIV Golf on Youtube last year but now it isn't as easily accessible.
I picked the top 5 to be LIV golfers ,but DJ and Cam were playing at the fat cats course,boy they let lots of fans down,they were not ready for prime time or anytime,fellows you have to practice which you didn’t do ,wow I was so disappointed with you both,Phil,Patrick,Brook great job guys you were ready to play.Congratulations to Jon he is number 1 for sure.
One of the best Masters ever! I kind of enjoyed watching all of the PGA sycophants not make the cut and another by one shot thanks to his kid JT.
Liv golfers are just PGA golfers, that went for a paycheck. Liv hasn't produced any masters level talent
Liv golfers come threw the ranks of the PGA their going to golf at that level, no surprise
And this is what I thought would happen, maybe not so quickly as in this tournamnet, but soon. Then what do you say? Nothing to say.
What would happen if to Golf if the LIV players are banned from Major Tournaments in the future? It will make the PGA and major tournaments look bad. Like they are afraid to compete or will not compete.
I think Golf will owe a debt of gratitude to one Golfer. Woods? No, I'm not talking about Woods. I'm talking about the one who shall remain nameless. And I bet most of what has transpired over the past year or so was far from a surprise to him.
There is one thing that Liv Golf does that the PGA doesn't do, or has not done in the past. Golfers will not try to ignore LIV Golfers for long. They can't.
This Masters was not a fluke. Wait til Abraham Ancer or Juagin Neiman (can't even spell his name right) or Danny Lee, etc. win a huge tournament? For the powers that be, or that have been, in the Golf world it is a Catch 22. The Golf Powers that be will say: "HOLD on a minute bucko! These other players are not grandfathered in. They can't play the top tournaments in the world against OUR players! (We OWN GOLF!)." Imagine that coming out more and more. Catch 22…..
I don't watch LIV Golf for the team thing. I watch it for the individual thing and the team thing can add an added dimension to things.
I feel very, very, very sorry for how people feel about the LIV players and Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately, your leaders in the U.S. are totally in bed with SA and have been for a long time, even 9-11. For the pipe smokers out there, put that in your pipe and smoke it because you do whether you want to or not. How much are you not paying at the pump now? Hmmmmm?????? Just one very small example. And when that very favorite journalist in the Masters press conference brought this up (and most assuredly this was pre-planned) – THAT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE. Always is when you bring something up and it explodes in your face, which it will if it has not already. Don't bring stuff up that implicates YOU! The Chairman should have known better and I suspect he did. I wonder if he warned them about this in advance, that it really wasnt' a good idea and that IF that is your ace in the hole, you're losing that card game.
Phil comes out as an old dude, kickin' ass!