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The problem is all coaches and golf instructors always want the people who they are giving instructions. That they need to swing like pro. They never will.
I didn’t take away lessons from anyone. And I knew I couldn’t swing like a pro.
But I started out as a 130 handicap and now after 15 years of playing golf I am a 1 handicap .with hard work trying different things in my swing. And putting the ball in different positions and seeing what it does once I hit it. I tired different swings etc until my body felt like like it was working as all as one. And it wasn’t trying nothing you guys teach. Now I am not saying you are not great golfer or teachers of golf at all. But just be honest with them all the your swing doesn’t have to be on plane like a pro , and you don’t have to swing just like a pro. Because most of them can’t and never will. My swing a several parts . Baseball and tennis and ping-pong
Slapping a but with right hand and only guiding with left hand throwing ground balls and watching what my body does by it self. And bowling and I wasn’t good at any of them. Just feel like my body does it on its own. Now you guys are great teachers of golf. I am sure if that. Not saying your not. Just my comment and my opinion. Now everything can hate on it if they want to. That’s their rights to do so.
Need to apply this to your game as well. 👍
Should the trail shoulder feel more internally rotated on the backswing then external on the downswing like in tennis and baseball? It feels like a powerful position to be internal on the backswing instead of trying to be more external with the elbow tucked in tight. Any thoughts?
Is Mike going away from the Malaska move going a few years back on your channel?
Love malaska a great.teacher and brendan is the best golf guru in the business. You.domgreat work hope all is well thx for making us better golfers. You da man.
Great video Brendon and Mike. The end talks about the need to retrain motor skills, but baseball and tennis swings show these skills are already there. So to me the difference in the loop direction should be more to do with intention or perceived task rather than a lack of skill? If so is there some sort of reframing thought or change in task that might have you swing the club like a bat or a racquet automatically without thinking about it?
Check out the JuJu swing. Bit more exaggerated but many have had success with it.
Basically this is guff, there are loads of really significant golfers who have swung with a hand path that went OTT, but they still shallowed the club in transition, which is the big difference between amateurs and professionals. Milo did an excellent video a long time ago about how important the transition is and how it equalises out most of the differences in the backswing, check that one out.
Actually, most PGA pros have hands that are over the top. Hands only. Not club.
Mike Strikes Again!!! Motor Patterns is all I do all day in my office!
How does this relate to tipping the shaft?
Man you guys have balls standing out in front like that on the range, I’d end up toeing one and probably peg ya 🤣
Triple M , Malaska Meichtry ,Milo. Lucky you.
I have recently taken on this swing concept . The truth is it is so different in my mind I feel the the ball would not go straight or long. But I am so amazed and how I am hitting the ball more consistent and longer, my compression seem so natural and easy. I have been doing exactly what Mike is describing in these videos, but one thing I found that even helped was that I had to feel the club head moving as my hands stayed in a stationary position, I feel the club head has to move way before your hands to get the clubhead in position to hit the ball.
Brendan, this is gold. I love malaska’s stuff. The clockwise circle hand path (righties) is it. Chuck quinton (rotary swing) takes it one step further. It starts with a clockwise circle on the trail foot then you add the arms in the same circle and you’ve got it. It also completely takes away the hit from the top because you don’t change the circle path on the downswing. All good players circle in one direction. Even the under the plane backswing folks, end up looping it back under. He calls it the AXIOM training. Alan.
So tired of seeing baseball and tennis related to golf. Of course in tennis and baseball there is a loop,bc your already standing and your tool is off the ground! In golf your going from the ground back to the ground. In the other sports your not hitting off the ground and your not bent over and the tool is not starting from the ground. So tired of seeing golf related to tennis and baseball and the shallowing “loop” of the 3
Brandon I looked at so many older great golfers they all took the club inside not like Floyd and Lopez but Palmer, Watson, Player , Snead, Jones, Nelson and so many more Trevino didn’t and had back problems now I think you get way better turns and coming down I think Mike Malaska has it right they all had the club upright before impact and after so I like the Joe Nichols style except for the takeaway I would rather take it inside and it’s a draw machine and beautiful baby draws and easy too control the golf industry changed the game I like the older swings for me .
I get psychotic when Malaska is on your channel. It’s the shaft not the hands! The shaft shallows! You always show and talk about the HANDS looping. It’s the club shaft that shallows immediately at the beginning of the downswing. There is no need to loop the hands! Please watch almost every PGA player.
matty fitzpatrick and viktor hovland are doing the bobby jones in 2023
Brendan, you may know this already but you have a huge body lunge downward in your downswing especially when you swing in slo mo.
I'm not saying it's wrong, but it seems like this instruction is quite different from what Malaska talked about on this channel years ago. Or is it the same?
Hello. You should go see Jon Levitt at Arcadia golf course. He will help you a ton. Great content. Keep up the hustle.
Finally someone who uses momentum and basic biomechanics. Awesome. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Because golfers are told to hit down on the ball. The easiest but wrong way to do this is by swinging over the top.
The only real pandemic.
You may want to look at some recent videos by Wayne Defrancesco about over the top from the inside. Lots of modern golfers loop from in to out, Matthew Fitzpatrick, Abraham Anser, Daniel Berger, Hovland, Cameron Champ, Tony Finau, many others.
Looping from inside isn’t just enough. Hands have to start faster from the top than shoulders. Hands have to work independently. Basic sequence in the beginning is that hands go down and the weight of the club turns the body around. And why I know this, I was a slicer but not any more because I learned the right sequence. I’m now a low singel handicap player, been for years. 90 % golfers have a slice tendency and 98% of pros can’t give a proper cure for that. That’s why hardly anyone learns unfortunately. This is a number one issue among golfers and golfindustry hasn’t find an answer to that. I took lessons from dozen pros and didn’t get any help. Finally figured that out my self with a little bit help.
Mike is such a brilliant coach. Thanks for this excellent video.
David leadbetter has given lessons to Garrett on GM golf. David is teaching them to take the clubhead on the outward path straight back.
This is THE best video on YouTube for understanding and fixing the over the top move. I've watched many vids on this subject and I find this one beats them all. Went to the driving range with these ideas and it worked a charm, cant wait to try the new and improved swing on the course this weekend. Thanks Mr Malaska & Be Better Golf.
You don't have to convince me to not swing over the top…
As you make more room and stay back how to you make up that distance and not hit it off the toe? Is it made up with hip bend and the chest getting closer to the ball
Brendon, I've followed your progress from near the start.. I've never seen your swing pattern go out and inside, despite all your hours of effort trying to change it. In my humble opinion you're wasting precious time trying to change what is in your 'golfing DNA'. Why do you resist embracing it?
With respect to Mike, imagine a coach saying to a junior Byron Nelson that he had to reverse his swing pattern – we'd probably never have heard of Nelson again; he'd still be on the range trying to 'fix what wasn't broken'.
My belief is that this issue is a major flaw in current golf coaching, and that perhaps as much as 50% of players are naturally 'in to out' instinctive players. History has proven that so many of the greats played that way that surely it cannot be denied..(?)
Why do I feel as though I'm on my 2nd lesson–ever? Mike just makes it common-sense easy. B, thanks for presenting these.
After watching this yesterday is started doing today at the course. Phenomenal! Thanks Mike.
dont use the term binary on a golf lesson or ill quit watching
Nice job fellas 👏
I have OTT issues, and I have watched the video many times trying to get it right. All I end up doing is Shanking the ball miserably😫. Any ideas?