Ep. 60 – In this 5 Minute Thursday we share some tips and advice to help you evaluate the 14 clubs that you’re currently playing to make sure that you have the best 14 Clubs to escape the trouble that you may find yourself in and around the golf course.
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I really wish I had a fitter like you guys in my area. Unfortunately all we’ve got are the big chains
Yes please! I would love to see your fit process!
Yes please! I would love to see your fit process!
Thanks so much for the content ….The question I have is … what about people who have a fitting and then change their golf swing in a major way……. At what point is another fitting needed??? Asking for a friend.
I cant tell you how many times Ive seen players go to buy modern irons and get the "traditional" 4-PW and without hesitation go straight for the 52/56/60 wedge set. The problem is that they don't take the time to look up that the PW they are get is 43 degrees and they now have a 9 degree gap between clubs. I try to tell everyone that unless you are buying super traditional blades/CBs with a PW in the 48 degree range, either a 50/54/58 setup or even buying the AW/GW from the iron set makes more sense, and even buying the set 5-AW/GW is the same as buying the 4-PW only they will get clubs that are more useable. With the hybrids Ive also seen that there are many times that players think they need to go "up" a club from their irons to the next lower hybrid. Say their iron set starts at 5, so they go straight to 4 hybrid. In many cases that 4 hybrid will be stronger than they need and create a gapping issue between the hybrid and iron. Ive seen quite a few players who hit their 5 iron 185, then their 4 hybrid will be 215, but I'll give them a 5 hybrid and they will hit it 195-200 which helps the gapping situation.
Great basic rundown!
Would love to see a fitting process
I would worry more about 160 and in.
I go lob wedge to 5 iron, 5 hybrid, 3 hybrid, 4 wood, driver. I find the gap between 5 and 3 hybrid negligible, I can step on the 5h if I need to. Sucks getting older, thank goodness for technology.
I've spent much time these last few years on bag construction for myself, my older parents, my athletic female partner, and my newer to golf tall athletic son, that I've developed strong feelings, based on swing speeds, of the last playable iron loft, and bag construction for these different groups of players – and they are so VERY different. For simplicity, I find there are 4 different buckets of swing speed based on Driver Swing Speed: 1) Tour – 115mph, 2) High – 100-105mph, 3) Average – 90mph, 4) Low – 80mph
There are no perfect answers – and yes, it's also swing&skill dependant, but here is what I've seen and done, and seen work based on Driver Swing Speed:
Driver Swing Speed, Last Playable Iron Loft, Hybrids in your bag, Woods in your bag
Tour (Black Tees) – 115mph, 21-degrees(3iron), no hybrids, 5&3W (18/13.5) – 8 irons in the bag
High (Blue Tees) – 105mph, 24-degrees(4-iron), 21-hybrid, 5&3W(18/15) – 7 irons in the bag
Average (White Tees) – 90mph, 30-degrees(6-iron), 27-degree-hybrid, 24-hybrid, 7&5W(21/18) – 5 irons in the bag
Low (Forward Tees) – 80mph, 34-degrees(7-iron), 30-hybrid & 27-hybrid, 9&7W (24/21) – 4 irons in the bag
Since the vast majority of golfers on the planet fall into the last 2 groups, this would imply that most golfers should more likely have between 5 and 4 irons in the bag. It is also very important to understand the actual loft of the irons in your bag because many modern lofts have changed significantly – and it really is the key to bag construction – what is the last lofted iron you can hit high enough that it will hold a green? For golfers that play tees at 6200 yards (white tees), with 90mph driver swing speeds, from what I've seen, that is a traditional lofted 6-iron or a 30-degree iron and for the slower swing speed group, it is a 7-iron at best.
Finally, when you look at Golf from a Strokes Gained perspective, there are 2 areas where Pros are massively better than most golfers that play from both the Blue (6700-yard tees) and the White (6200-yard tees) – and those areas are Proximity to the hole from 175-225 yards and Up&Down % while Chipping and Pitching – and I think from a bag construction and skill perspective, the solution to each of these represents an opportunity to further optimize the bag. Let's face it, the average semi-decent handicap golfer, that plays the Blue & White tees, does not have a good short game – yet most allocate 4 slots in the bag (PW-46, Gap-50-52, Sand-56, Lob-60) and it doesn't seem to help. Why? because short-game is about spending hours and hours practicing hitting the 10,000 types of shots you face out there – and 98% of golfers don't have the time and desire to do this. So, can we free up a club to help us in the long end? I think the answer is Yes for nearly everyone – a stock 46-degree PW, then 52-gap (with a versatile sole), and then a 58 mid-bounce wedge with a very flexible grind would give you a free club to help you in the long end of the bag. Again, most people that play the 6700 & 6200-yard tees, if they are in the middle of the fairway at 180-yards, 190-yards, 200-yards, 210-yards, 220-yards are pretty much not hitting the green – Pros are flag hunting the pin from 180-yards out with a 7-iron hitting a nice high fade – most Handicap golfers are sending in a low slicing 5-iron hoping to carry the bunker in front of the green – and that's the HUGE difference and where this free club can be used, and in my honest opinion, as someone that has gone from being a 10 handicap to a scratch golfer, is where I would start bag construction – find the last iron loft you can hit high into a green and make the ball stop, and then spend 80% of your bag construction time trying to find the right hybrids and high-lofted woods to make this very difficult part of the bag a strength – that might mean 7-hybrid, 6-hybrids, 5-hybrids, 9-woods & 7-woods. Unless you have a 100+mph Driver swing speed and can hit a 24-degree lofted iron to 100 feet with a 45-degree descent angle, my default bag for most people would look like the following:
1-2) Driver, Putter
3, 4, 5) 5-wood, 7-wood, 9-wood
6, 7) 5-hybrid & 6-hybrid
8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (5-irons) PW, 9, 8, 7, 6
13-14) 52&58-wedge
This gives you more tools, and specialty tools that are easier to launch higher and hold into greens at the top end where the game is hardest, it simplfies your wedges with 2 clubs to use around the green to get more comfortable with and hopefully get better results with, and it recognizes that long irons, and even some mid irons, are hard to hit high enough and thus gives you better easier clubs to hit after your 6-iron.
Amazing thought process in this video – thank you !!
would love to see the fitting process too!
Yes to seeing the fitting process.
I'm a self confessed Golf Fitting junkie👍
Thanks, that was an interesting vid.
These days I mainly play at my home Course so I only carry the clubs that I use/need.
I'm now down to 11 clubs (driver, 19 & 22deg hybrids, 6-PW Irons, 52 & 56 wedges & Putter). Admittedly there are gaps at the top & bottom ends of my bag and I could have a Fairway Wood & Lob Wedge in there, but I mishit both clubs and they tend to cost me shots, so I leave them out.
Definitely would enjoy seeing a fitting!!
Great video. I think you could maybe turn the volume up a little bit. Seems very quiet.
Would love to see a fitting process
Would really enjoy the fitting process start to finish!
Would love to see the entire fitting process! Thinking about making the trip down from Ohio.
Bought my irons pre owned and came with 3 thru 9. Absolutely love them. 9 iron loft is 41. Took the 3i out for a hybrid lofted at 21. Top of the bag goes 5 wood then driver (also have 3 wood but like the 5 wood more so I leave the 3w out). This gives be room for 4 wedges, 46, 50, 54, and 58. I actually like the versatility of the traditional wedges over a PW and AW/GW set up. My loft gaping and distance gaping seem consistent based on my gps shot tracking. Would you still recommend playing a set with PW AW/GW over a 46 and a 50? I personally like the "traditional" over strong loft iron set up.
Interesting thought process. My bag: Driver , HL 3 wood, 3 and 4 hybrid , 5-PW, 50* and 56* wedges, putter. 13 clubs. Seems to work pretty well for me.
Glad I found your channel. Learn more in a few videos than watching all those 🇬🇧 channels just testing new products with never a bad review!
Very interested in seeing your start to finish club fo
Very interested in seeing your club fitting from start to finish!!!
Great to see a start to finish fitting done by you!!!
What is your preference in loft and grind on the gap, lob and sand wedges?