As LIV Golf’s second season kicks off, Greg Norman spoke to GOLF.com about LIV’s path forward, Masters tension, and Rory McIlroy’s call for Norman to step down.
What a fantastic interview. Was great to hear Greg speak directly to fans and his perspective makes so much sense. LIV players absolutely deserve points. Also, look at the “Who are these guys?” playing in the Honda Classic this weekend vs the high level résumé’s in LIV this weekend. So many great players!
The LIV guys are always very classy, and are very calm and reasonable with their commentary. Compare that to the vitriol and anger coming from the PGA tour. It’s quite striking.
One of the few times I can stand behind Greg Norman. In my not-so-humble opinion, the PGA TOUR has fumbled this from the start, and it's bad for pro golf.
what a liar…1. the problem is not so much the alt tour is the fact that it is blood money 2. none of these players made the jump to "make the game better" they did it because "it's the best for my family" aka MONEY…I could go on and on
Can’t complain about world ranking points when you completely change the model of your tour. Other tours mirrored the PGAs and that’s how they were able to get the points. Sorry bud.
Love LIV golf , you guys just keep fighting for what is right and fair , and that is golf is played by the people for the people , and it is the game itself that should be the beneficiary , not one tour , one organisation that just want to control the game . Greg Norman is the herro in this story not the villan. It is sad to see how ugly the PGA tour have been about this change .
Greg Norman made a huge mistake introducing the team aspect to Liv. Greg has said that a few years ago he essentially was at his first Ryder Cup, and he couldn't believe how into it the fans were. Newsflash. The Ryder Cup is the most overrated thing for fans of golf. Nobody really cares. It is similar to women's soccer in the Olympics. It is a forced interest, and if it went away completely, nobody would care. United States players hardly care. European players care a bit more, of course. But it is a huge mistake to think that the teams will draw any fan interest at all.
I was checking scores today for Liv golf (because you can bet on it), and it is hard to find the leaderboard on the LivGolf site. Even worse, the first thing that pops up is the team leaderboard. This is beyond dumb and it will hold Livgolf back for a long time. And Greg Norman is responsible for that. You don't have to reinvent the wheel, Greg. Nobody cares about teams….at all. Shotgun start isn't even any good. You would have done better to have 54 hole events, with half the field cut each day, so that every shot really counts. But to have pulled this off, with many strong players signed, is definitely a huge accomplishment, no matter how much money you have.
Rory is cluelss. He called LivGolf dead in the water a few weeks before they launched. Has no idea what he is talking about. He is a shill because he knows the PGA Tour considers him their number one guy other than Tiger. Rory and Tiger are doing that stupid scam Monday Night Golf that zero people care about. Rory is also a choker in big spots in majors.
Rory and Tiger are right about Norman needing to go because he can't be honest about OWGR. Their rules state clearly the criteria to qualify for rankings requires 2 years for OWGR to be able to assess players. Until LIV can be credible and accountable in its arguments PGA shouldn't sit down with them to discuss anything. LIV has CW, let that network speak for them.
I haven't watched a LIV event yet. It just doesn't appeal to me as a format. But I think it will add more to golf than it takes from it. I can see it attracting more new (younger generation) golfers to the game than the traditional tours will. Hopefully in a year or so the dust will settle and the various parties will find an amicable way forward. P.S. @gregnorman I'd watch a LIV event if you participated as a player. I miss watching you play.
People complaining bout the format and points reminds me of people who complained about the AFL vs NFL, ABA vs NBA, they all came together, and I think that’s what Norman’s plan is in the end.
If they really wanted world ranking points they could conform to the necessary changes like 72 holes, a cut line, and a Q school giving access to rising players than it would be impossible for OWGR to not include them. Liv has along way go they over paid for most for most of there players most them are on the back 9 of there careers already some are even on the 18th hole they prob got 3 real players on the rise Cameron, Joaquin, and Mito and who the heck is CW network
Liv golf is the equivalent to what the WHA did in hockey 🏒, they overpay ,disrupted the game and ultimately flew up there own azz and will disappear, while making the pga tour in a better more dominant place .
What I hate the most is that this has diluted both leagues. Each week the pool of the best players is split. I don't know anyone who's watched a LIV event. To me, the LIV league with these team names that seem more fit for elementary school sports teams is a joke. No cuts. They're already paid so no pressure and pressure is what makes watching pro golf great. I understand people can obviously live there lives any way they want, but while LIV did take some great players, the others (i.e. Mickelson, Poulter, etc.) are over the hill and weren't credible threats to win anything of merit in the future. It's a boys club that no one watches where the players went to cash out. Simple as that.
Finally someone with guts to confront the PGA perennial self-interest monopoly. Good for Norman! Wait a minute! What did McIlroy said? I can't believe my ears! 9:33 "They have to LIV with that!" LOL
Such a load of crap. Greg, independent contractors? On the PGA Tour, yes, at LIV no. If so then why do the players sign exclusive LIV contracts? Any business entity reserves the right to refuse business to anyone. The PGA Tour said go if you wish to play go play but don't come back because your not welcome. LIV players want the ability to go back and forth. The PGA Tour said no, but the LIV players want to play. Well so do I and another 10k players but we aren't afforded that opportunity. LIV wants OWGR points. Ok, part of the requirements are 72 holes and a cut. So that should be a disqualifier right away. If not then the Champions tour should get points. Greg wanted a system to coexist. Well when you talk Phil Mickelson into joining and he is actively recruiting players on the driving range at a PGA Tour event, what would you expect the tour to do? LIV has it coming and it won't be pretty. I think if they would have tried to do something offseason and tried to talk to the tour BEFORE they started recruiting and signing players it would have worked out a lot better. They have some fun innovative ideas, but are sadly failing on those ideas. The team names are horrible along with the logos. To have DJ mutually agree to part ways with Adidas to comply with the team uniform requirements is terrible. Why not work with them? Lots of questions and not nearly enough of answers.
Greg Norman has insulted and made multiple defamatory comments about Rory and other players. He hasn’t been diplomatic in any way, and wants to cry when that same energy is returned. Only pleasure I’ll have is knowing LIV will lose their case and be nothing in 3 years.
watched both PGA and LIV this weekend, LIV wins by far, commentary, great camera work on both good and bad shots, miched up etc. If it weren't for the playoff with Kirk and EC I would have watched less PGA. Funny how PGA commentator's are now trying to be funny, good luck keeping up with Faherty, he is world class and relative. Monopolies are good only for the owners of it, GO LIV GOLF!!!!!
Hilarious Greg says he hates the vitriol and hatred going on. He created it. I stand with Tiger and Rory. Yeah the PGA Tour may not be perfect and it's obvious that they could do more for the players in terms of money due to the fact that they have now bolstered a lot of the purses for tournaments because of LIV. I just happen to stand with the tradition of the game in terms of stroke play with 4 rounds. To listen to some of these guys bitch and moan about the requirements of the PGA Tour and having to deal with injuries because of having to play too much, give me a break. They make a living playing a game. How many people would trade places with them in a heartbeat? How much would they bitch and moan if they had to work a "normal" job like most people, 8, 9, 10 or even 12 hours a day for peanuts compared to what they are playing for. So to all the guys who jumped to the clown show format of LIV, have fun with it. I for one have no interest in watching any of their events and have no plans to do so. In my opinion this has done nothing but fracture the golf world and it really sucks for fantasy golf.
Great stuff Greg. Norman is about the only one in pro golf doing anything to take the game to the world to build the game. International cricket did exactly the same to World Series cricket in the 1970s and it ended up revolutionising cricket.
I was believing Greg until he said If one of HIS Liv golfers wins the Masters he would love to see it "for the player, not for Liv golf"? Really! BTW, you don't need to know 100% of something to be able to comment on it. Greg's been all about himself and my brand, jets, money, etc. yada, yada yada………."FORE"🤔💰
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What a fantastic interview. Was great to hear Greg speak directly to fans and his perspective makes so much sense.
LIV players absolutely deserve points.
Also, look at the “Who are these guys?” playing in the Honda Classic this weekend vs the high level résumé’s in LIV this weekend. So many great players!
LIV PLAYERS IN ONE SENTENCE, BAD GAMBLERS, CHEATS AND HAS BEEN'S!!!
The LIV guys are always very classy, and are very calm and reasonable with their commentary. Compare that to the vitriol and anger coming from the PGA tour. It’s quite striking.
I like Joaquin Niemann's attitude here… lol👏
One of the few times I can stand behind Greg Norman. In my not-so-humble opinion, the PGA TOUR has fumbled this from the start, and it's bad for pro golf.
He is right about Rory, it's like he is a puppet for Tiger and the PGA Tour.
what a liar…1. the problem is not so much the alt tour is the fact that it is blood money 2. none of these players made the jump to "make the game better" they did it because "it's the best for my family" aka MONEY…I could go on and on
Jay Monahan should donate every dollar in his bank account that was generated by the Saudis.
Liv can start their own points, majors etc
Just separate themselves and quit the me vs you.
I'm going to watch a Gunsmoke episode now.
The United States has been sports washing their human rights abuses for 125 years.
Can’t complain about world ranking points when you completely change the model of your tour. Other tours mirrored the PGAs and that’s how they were able to get the points. Sorry bud.
Liv team concept is a laugher and a 54 hole tournament is no test. Like the shorts though.
Love LIV golf , you guys just keep fighting for what is right and fair , and that is golf is played by the people for the people , and it is the game itself that should be the beneficiary , not one tour , one organisation that just want to control the game . Greg Norman is the herro in this story not the villan. It is sad to see how ugly the PGA tour have been about this change .
Greg Norman made a huge mistake introducing the team aspect to Liv. Greg has said that a few years ago he essentially was at his first Ryder Cup, and he couldn't believe how into it the fans were. Newsflash. The Ryder Cup is the most overrated thing for fans of golf. Nobody really cares. It is similar to women's soccer in the Olympics. It is a forced interest, and if it went away completely, nobody would care. United States players hardly care. European players care a bit more, of course. But it is a huge mistake to think that the teams will draw any fan interest at all.
I was checking scores today for Liv golf (because you can bet on it), and it is hard to find the leaderboard on the LivGolf site. Even worse, the first thing that pops up is the team leaderboard. This is beyond dumb and it will hold Livgolf back for a long time. And Greg Norman is responsible for that. You don't have to reinvent the wheel, Greg. Nobody cares about teams….at all. Shotgun start isn't even any good. You would have done better to have 54 hole events, with half the field cut each day, so that every shot really counts. But to have pulled this off, with many strong players signed, is definitely a huge accomplishment, no matter how much money you have.
Rory is cluelss. He called LivGolf dead in the water a few weeks before they launched. Has no idea what he is talking about. He is a shill because he knows the PGA Tour considers him their number one guy other than Tiger. Rory and Tiger are doing that stupid scam Monday Night Golf that zero people care about. Rory is also a choker in big spots in majors.
Rory and Tiger are right about Norman needing to go because he can't be honest about OWGR. Their rules state clearly the criteria to qualify for rankings requires 2 years for OWGR to be able to assess players. Until LIV can be credible and accountable in its arguments PGA shouldn't sit down with them to discuss anything. LIV has CW, let that network speak for them.
Greg nearly choked this interview
"Please let us play in the majors as our exhibition golf isn't worth shit" LOL
I haven't watched a LIV event yet. It just doesn't appeal to me as a format. But I think it will add more to golf than it takes from it. I can see it attracting more new (younger generation) golfers to the game than the traditional tours will. Hopefully in a year or so the dust will settle and the various parties will find an amicable way forward.
P.S. @gregnorman I'd watch a LIV event if you participated as a player. I miss watching you play.
People complaining bout the format and points reminds me of people who complained about the AFL vs NFL, ABA vs NBA, they all came together, and I think that’s what Norman’s plan is in the end.
Rory is such a b*tch and Tiger has no say at all because Tiger in fact is the biggest has-been golfer of all time
Norman has not told anyone the facts. It’s just the same bs. TELL US the facts and maybe we will understand.
stick to your golf Rory
If they really wanted world ranking points they could conform to the necessary changes like 72 holes, a cut line, and a Q school giving access to rising players than it would be impossible for OWGR to not include them. Liv has along way go they over paid for most for most of there players most them are on the back 9 of there careers already some are even on the 18th hole they prob got 3 real players on the rise Cameron, Joaquin, and Mito and who the heck is CW network
Liv golf is the equivalent to what the WHA did in hockey 🏒, they overpay ,disrupted the game and ultimately flew up there own azz and will disappear, while making the pga tour in a better more dominant place .
What I hate the most is that this has diluted both leagues. Each week the pool of the best players is split. I don't know anyone who's watched a LIV event. To me, the LIV league with these team names that seem more fit for elementary school sports teams is a joke. No cuts. They're already paid so no pressure and pressure is what makes watching pro golf great. I understand people can obviously live there lives any way they want, but while LIV did take some great players, the others (i.e. Mickelson, Poulter, etc.) are over the hill and weren't credible threats to win anything of merit in the future. It's a boys club that no one watches where the players went to cash out. Simple as that.
Finally someone with guts to confront the PGA perennial self-interest monopoly. Good for Norman!
Wait a minute! What did McIlroy said? I can't believe my ears! 9:33 "They have to LIV with that!" LOL
Great interview Greg , has wanted this tour since the late 80s . It’s gaining momentum awesome work .
The Great White Choker
Enjoy the Saudi money. Traitors
Such a load of crap. Greg, independent contractors? On the PGA Tour, yes, at LIV no. If so then why do the players sign exclusive LIV contracts? Any business entity reserves the right to refuse business to anyone. The PGA Tour said go if you wish to play go play but don't come back because your not welcome. LIV players want the ability to go back and forth. The PGA Tour said no, but the LIV players want to play. Well so do I and another 10k players but we aren't afforded that opportunity. LIV wants OWGR points. Ok, part of the requirements are 72 holes and a cut. So that should be a disqualifier right away. If not then the Champions tour should get points. Greg wanted a system to coexist. Well when you talk Phil Mickelson into joining and he is actively recruiting players on the driving range at a PGA Tour event, what would you expect the tour to do? LIV has it coming and it won't be pretty. I think if they would have tried to do something offseason and tried to talk to the tour BEFORE they started recruiting and signing players it would have worked out a lot better. They have some fun innovative ideas, but are sadly failing on those ideas. The team names are horrible along with the logos. To have DJ mutually agree to part ways with Adidas to comply with the team uniform requirements is terrible. Why not work with them? Lots of questions and not nearly enough of answers.
Greg Norman has insulted and made multiple defamatory comments about Rory and other players. He hasn’t been diplomatic in any way, and wants to cry when that same energy is returned. Only pleasure I’ll have is knowing LIV will lose their case and be nothing in 3 years.
I would like to see one of the players LIV contracts .
watched both PGA and LIV this weekend, LIV wins by far, commentary, great camera work on both good and bad shots, miched up etc. If it weren't for the playoff with Kirk and EC I would have watched less PGA. Funny how PGA commentator's are now trying to be funny, good luck keeping up with Faherty, he is world class and relative. Monopolies are good only for the owners of it, GO LIV GOLF!!!!!
He’s talking bull.
Rory is the child in the room, he needs to grow up. More immature today than when he first turned pro
LIV is dying I think it will end within two years. The question on everyone’s lips is who is going to quit LIV first .
Hilarious Greg says he hates the vitriol and hatred going on. He created it. I stand with Tiger and Rory. Yeah the PGA Tour may not be perfect and it's obvious that they could do more for the players in terms of money due to the fact that they have now bolstered a lot of the purses for tournaments because of LIV. I just happen to stand with the tradition of the game in terms of stroke play with 4 rounds. To listen to some of these guys bitch and moan about the requirements of the PGA Tour and having to deal with injuries because of having to play too much, give me a break. They make a living playing a game. How many people would trade places with them in a heartbeat? How much would they bitch and moan if they had to work a "normal" job like most people, 8, 9, 10 or even 12 hours a day for peanuts compared to what they are playing for. So to all the guys who jumped to the clown show format of LIV, have fun with it. I for one have no interest in watching any of their events and have no plans to do so. In my opinion this has done nothing but fracture the golf world and it really sucks for fantasy golf.
Whispering campaign by Rory. It's just so Rory.
Great stuff Greg. Norman is about the only one in pro golf doing anything to take the game to the world to build the game. International cricket did exactly the same to World Series cricket in the 1970s and it ended up revolutionising cricket.
I love GOLF!! So I LOVE to watch any golf I can get!!!! Let's go LIV!! Let's go PGA!! Grow up already
Have read that thé Saudi has offered Tiger more than 100M$ to organize Liv tour. He refused to leave pga. Respect !
I was believing Greg until he said If one of HIS Liv golfers wins the Masters he would love to see it "for the player, not for Liv golf"? Really!
BTW, you don't need to know 100% of something to be able to comment on it. Greg's been all about himself and my brand, jets, money, etc.
yada, yada yada………."FORE"🤔💰