The BIGGEST CON In Golf…
Matt Fryer Golf talks you through one of the things that has changed in the golf industry in the past years, that a lot of golfers could be being conned.
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28 Comments
To me the Haywood has a traditional lift like my 20 year old set of Maxfki Revolution Red Dots and about same diatance with the 8 iron. The Mizuno is my JPX900 that I normally play and again yardage about equal. My set now I would almost say every club due to lofts are misrepresented against traditional lofts to help add ego to the club you are swinging, when in reality we should not any club for ego but just to get the lowest score possible.
Love this – too often people depend on the numbers on the bottom of the clubs. Another reason not to base club selection off someone whose game you don’t know well is dynamic loft. You may present that 8i shaft vertical with 36° of loft but they lean the shaft and present 26° of loft at impact.
Brilliantly explained and great to see your actual stats Matt.
I agree, I've said this for a few years, in fact I had a letter published in Golf Monthly a couple of years ago suggesting that manufacturers do away with numbered irons and, in the same way as wedges, just mark them with the loft.
A very good action. I always have a look at the lofts and not on the numbers. The hope-selling Golfclub industry wants to trick you in buying new clubs but the yearly improvement does not really help the average golfer. So thank you Matt, I hope this video opens someone’s eyes – whether in the industry or the players.
Very well done video here, Matt. Factual, detailed, and educational. The time and thought you put into this certainly shows. As usual, thanks for the great content, Mate!
Thanks for a first class video. Not only was it very interesting but eye opening as well.
Great job.
I don't understand the distance race with irons. Any golfer worth their salt has a specialist wedge that goes a certain distance and a hybrid or a fairway that goes a certain distance. The set of irons has to fit nicely between those two with decent gaps each one.
The new ping pw is 41° but they offer a 45° wedge and a 50° wedge in the set…. What's the point of that? it's just a pw and gw with a different number on it! It literally does nothing except play into people's ego.
It makes you question whether manufacturers should put lofts on the bottom of the clubs, not the club number.
I've have only ever used traditional lofts, I play with mates with a well higher handicap who love telling you they're hitting "8 iron" you just think mate it's a taylormade sim 6 and a half iron 🤣🤣
Great video
Great video Matt. I'm liking your recent videos. Cheers from Pennsylvania, USA.
How is it a big con? Rubbish video.
Shaft weight differences as well.
A really interesting video Matt, it was good to see such a wide variety of clubs tested and really nice that it wasn’t just another driver review 👍
My key takeaway is that I should carry more wedges and less irons so I have more control of my lofts…
Please do this on the course. Track Man might ask the name and number of the club that is being used.
This loft debate does my head in… clubs are designed differently… if they made game improvement clubs that help you get the ball in the air ‘traditional’ lofts then they would just go to the MOON and go absolutely nowhere! They reduce lofts to keep launch and spin where it needs to be! To me it’s great engineering the fact they can give you less loft but give you the right peak height and land angle 🤷♂️ people need to get over this ‘jacked loft’ problem.. let’s face it the average male golfer only drives it 220… nuff sed
Long story short, know your carry distances. Another key variable not discussed would be dispersion. If I was getting fit for clubs, a much tighter dispersion (which probably has more to do with the SHAFT characteristics than anything else) would get my attention a LOT more than simply a distance difference due to shaft length and/or loft difference.
You need to know your own yardages. I'd add though, knowing the difference to people you play with frequently can be useful, as you will know how your yardages stack up against theirs. I'm generally a club shorter than my usual playing partners. If they're playing an 8 iron (and me a 7), and they come up short (due to wind, temp, elevation etc), I may change up my club. But the key is to know your game. Does it bother me that my AP1 PW is 43 degrees, well no as I carry a 48 wedge as well
as a 19 handicapper my 7 iron can go anything from 140 to 160 yards depending on how sweet I hit it. So forgiveness in terms of straightness is far more important to me.
Good video! Hey Matt, what if I decrease the loft of my 1st gen P790’s to get more distance?
I see more Launch Monitors being sold, more converted garages more testing.
How do we golf without solid data? I've been golfing blind for decades.
Shafts are not as long or as stiff at this time of year. 🥶
People that voice a specific iron is not a 1:1 comparison across different brands/sets mostly focus on loft. What about flight path, angle of impact/spin
always get your clubs fitted
Cracking video, I've been a mizuno man for 25 years, switched briefly to the titleist 912 irons, noticed a 10-15 yard difference immediately, the mizuno being the longer. The titleist were definitely more lofted, unless that was my ball striking!
Mid irons with very strong lofts usually mess up your gapping, particularly at the short and long ends!