2022 Discraft Great Lakes Open
2022 DGPT Stop #10
Final Round – F9 – FPO FEATURE
Kensington Toboggan DGC
Milford, Michigan
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Players
Natalie Ryan
Emily Beach
Valerie Mandujano
Paige Pierce
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27 Comments
Cawhonk!!!
Emily and Valerie should have had a playoff.
For those who are upset about transgender females competing in FPO, please keep speaking up in a positive way and have hope. Swimming has recently changed their policy. I think it might be too restrictive. Cycling has also changed their policy. I will post separate comments with details.
For those who say science supports transgender females being able to compete fairly against biological females, the latest science does NOT.
There simply weren’t enough studies when IOC made their recommendations and I believe they left it up to each sport because it does depend on the physical requirements of each sport.
Based on studies done in 2021 and 2022, cycling has decided that testosterone levels need to be below a certain level for 2 years before the muscle advantage declines enough to match that of a 99.99% of biological females. More studies are still needed. Swimming has also changed their rules but that might be a little too restrictive.
looks like I'm going to have to check out Neptune Discs! Thanks for the coverage and professionalism, GK
Unfortunate to see those cutrolls on hole 1 round after round, I don’t understand why they don’t make the correction, they got the distance!
honk honk honk honk…Great to have you back.
SHAME ON THE PDGA!
As someone who identifies as a black handsome old women, I love seeing Natalie compete against these girls and win fair and square. Everything is fluid, maybe Natalie can win junior worlds next. Remember, be kind always, no matter what, or your transphobic!
Miss the hot geese!!!
Should the PDGA make another division?? The TPO; Trans Pro Open. Or just Sign up with birth sex and play that division. We all human. Challenge yourself. Paige competes with the guys all the time. Just not on tour.
Hey Everyone! My name is Peter Johnson. I’m new to disc golf and just joined my local club in Oregon, the Beaver Bashers. I just happened to be in the park when the club was selling sausage wraps for a fundraiser. They ended up hooking me up with all the equipment I needed in one package. A Westside Sword, Kastaplast Kaxe, and an Innova Hog and Mamba . My weapon of choice is my Kaxe with a right hand flick. Anyway, what’s the big deal with Natalie Ryan? Give a girl a chance
Not my PDGA
ryan sacked up and took down the ladies, just taking their cash lol
Wish there was a clear solution for trans athletes for their sake. Would love everyone feeling comfortable and able to compete. Unfortunately, still unfair to the other gals as it is now.
All these white knights stumbling over themselves to protect women's disc golf. I wonder how many are TDing or volunteering for a WGE event this coming weekend?
Remember in George Orwell’s 1984, when the authoritarian regime convinced everyone that 2+2=5 showing that it’s possible to manipulate people to believe in things that they know are not true! This is the time we are living in. Stand up for the truth and don’t be manipulated.
My thing with all this trans talk is the pdga doesn't have the money to regulate this. They are not paying for hormone testing on their own. It's expensive. And you can just pay a shady doctor to write up the paperwork and Bob's your uncle. Almost any local pro male can take down a fpo. event. Also I don't see how 1 year of hormone replacement therapy changes a lifetime of natural biology.
Honk!!!!!
why is a guy playing in the fpo
if MPO stands for mixed professional open, why is the male with the last named Ryan allowed to play in the WPO division…
I want to watch women's disc golf not a freak show! Natalie Ryan needs to play the men's division or gtfo
A question: how would you feel a 7 foot man identifying as a woman and competing in women’s boxing? Fists like basket balls and a jaw like a mail box?
"What is a woman"?
@GK Pro – your description says that’s Ella Hansen commentating with Raven, but that’s our hot goose Erica Stinchcomb. Same on the B9 video.
Regardless of where you stand, its a conflict that needs to be ironed out. I hope it can get to a place where everyone feels that the situation is fair and just.
The ladies need to boycott trans people from competing in the fpo. Eventually the "men" are going to dominate them. Can't you smell it ? I for one will be boycotting watching any of the Ryan coverage. It just doesn't make any sense. Wait until Lea Thomas decides to become a disc golfer. Or Calvin decides he is a girl because the payout for the winner is the same as the mpo. SMH It's clownish at best. Good luck PDGA. Go woke, go broke ladies… Just sayin