Which Hand Controls My Golf Swing? – Golf Test Dummy
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Great video. I too feel the lead hand to be better. When I do trackman testing I find that even though the rear (dominant) hand feels strong my clubhead speeds go down when I emphasize it. When pulling if you have loose wrists you get a crack the whip effect that produces faster speeds. IMO. Have you ever tried Paul Wilson’s swing? I know you like the out of the ordinary.
The best golf swings that I have ever made, (and there's been some really amazing ones ) have felt like I brought the club into the hitting area with the lead side and lead arm and a very quiet trail arm and then the trail arm got extremely active through impact and well beyond. The result is incredible power coupled with a very accurate strike when this happens. In one case, I flew virtually every drive I hit 30 yrds. beyond the end (they stopped mowing at 300 yrds. with weeds past that) of a 300 yrd. driving range and exactly where I was aiming. It was unreal and I was using a wood-headed driver and it wasn't even persimmon. Did something comparable with irons that day too with 3-iron still 30-40 feet in the air while passing directly over the 200 marker. Every release felt like my trail hand did nothing until my hands were about 6 inches from the ball and then my trail arm unfolded and the clubhead came whipping through the ball with unbelievable speed and power while it felt like my body was fairly passive through impact and then a big full follow through. Every really good ball striking round I've had felt somewhat like that.
What I've discovered about that is such results are the result of truly getting the arm swing, including and especially the takeaway in synch with a full body turn. It you've managed that, you're most of the way there. The rest is not rushing the downswing (that one day, my downswing seemed to take unbelievably long because the club was held back so well) such that the arms stay behind the motion of the torso and hips until the trail arm finally must unfold because the shoulders cannot stay closed any longer due to the building rotational force. All this to say that IMO the lead shoulder and lead arm bring the club into the hitting zone, in synch with the body, and then the trail arm engages and dominates. As Hogan said, "When it comes to impact, I wish I had three right hands" (maybe not an exact quote). Of course, you have to get into the right positions early on for this to be completely true. Cheers.
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I personally have come to the conclusion that the exact opposite is the answer, i.e. we should be 100 percent focused on the right hand for power and control, but there is one caveat to this conclusion – and that is if you have allowed yourself to cup your left wrist at the top, allowed your right arm to collapse at the top by bending passed to 90-degrees and further rotate your right forearm bones which all cause the club to cross the line at the top, then with this compromised position, if you then ask your right hand/wrist/ brain neurons to try and recover all this in two-tenths of a second in the down-swing, nothing good will happen – as was demonstrated. If you instead, use a plus4 grip giving your right hand something to properly hold on to, and better yet a midsized plus4, and then do the exercise of practice swings with your right hand only on the club, what you will find is that your brain will never allow your right hand/wrist/forearm bones to ever get into this compromised position at the top, and instead will have the right hand, with right wrist extension, and right arm width, stop at the top in a position that is far more athletic and it will look like a position where you throw a baseball/football from – and it will not be wrapped around the back of your neck – and it will generate far more clubhead speed. Almost all amateurs have a cupped left wrist at the top and get the club too far behind them and most also let the club cross the line – all of which severely compromise the right wrist into flexion at the top instead of more powerful extension – whereas Pros do the exact opposite – which allows them to add power, throughout the downswing instead of waiting for the compromised right wrist position to unwind itself – which can really only be down by allowing the left side, which got itself into that position in the first place, to unwind itself at the lower speed required. If we fix the position at the top by never allowing the left side to ever put our right side into this severely power compromised setup in the first place, and this requires right wrist extension and a bowed left wrist at the top, then the right side can declare war on the ball, adding speed all the way down. There is a reason Pros look very different from amateurs at the top of the backswing and very specifically, have their first move, during the change of direction, that further adds to the right wrist extension – it's because, like a baseball pitcher, they aren't 'pulling' with their left hand, they are further loading their right wrist for power. I personally went through this journey two years back – I had to get there by completely removing my left hand from the club, and slowly letting my brain feel in control of the club with my right hand, and then adding my left hand back and I deliberately forced it into the subservient position of making it bow at the top so my right wrist was in charge and in extension. Can it be done the other way? Of course it can – but Pros, by and large, whether they know it or not, are massively right-hand dominant and do it very differently than the other 99 percent of golfers
Pre test, I would have bet on your lead hand being the best. Shows what I know…😳. Great vid as always, bud.
The throwing the ball to short stop still doesn't make sense as that would lead me to believe the right hand controls the club.
Or is it just me not fully understanding?
A very interesting question. For you the lead hand pulling worked best. For me it's the opposite. The trail hand works for me. Now, in reality it's not just one hand doing the work. I know that my lead hand pulls at least to the degree of maintaining the line and having a good bit to do with squaring the face. But when i focus on it i slice or push. So i focus on the trail hand bringing power and helping square the face and just allow the lead hand/arm to do what i know it does. I trust it. I wouldn't personally look to focus on both as its too akin to having numerous swing thoughts. It's just more than the brain can handle at once. So find your focus/ thought that works for you and trust that everything else will fall in place. And it will if you've repeated it enough. Great video though. Thought provoking as always. Looking forward to what's next.
Thought provoking, thanks GTD!
Hi Chad Great conclusion with your left hand as both Moe Norman said and Ben Hogan wrote that they start their downswing with their lead arm as well that serves in the rotational aspects at the finish of their swing
Personally I have always loved Moe Norman’s Bow and Arrow swing analogy. And conceptualized it in my own way.
When it comes to my personal swing I use my best neutral grip while relying on my obliques muscle groups as a rubber band that twist my upper body from my lower body for my backswing
With those two concepts in mind after simultaneously bending from my shoulders hips and knees as I aim and lay my club perpendicular to my ball; staying inside my golf posture I then shift my feet a bit as I am turning my head towards my target while I am deciding to aim left, right or straight to my target.
Head back down to start my backswing I then use my trail trigger finger ( not my 2 middle fingers) and trail elbow to feel resistance between my upper and lower body as I am drawing my club back over my trail shoulder like an arrow on a bow. I then; using my left arm; simply release the resistance between my upper and lower body that then physically unwinds my body allowing my club head to go directly back to and through my ball on its own low point path with little manipulation and the least resistance from me. My lower body simply pivots right then left responding and extending naturally at the end of my swing.
Reading the various remarks you get I hope you don’t mind my sharing my concept on your channel.
I have always seen it as a great golf forum.
Cheers ⛳️👍❤️😃🥂
So appreciate another great work from GTD. Indeed, many right-handed golfers struggle to co-ordinate both hands for better ball striking. Even for chipping and putting. Majority is naturally right hand dominant. But you have to master the dexterity of both hands in tandem to minimise the unintended push or pull shot. The conclusion of your inspiring swing analytical demo has just proved the the lead hand is the boss. It controls the most needed inside-out and shallow swing path to make the optimal ball striking impact. Whichever club you use. Hence, the glove is on the lead hand to grip the club. I still remember the golf writer, Jenkins once said that the right, or trail hand is an "evil hand" for golf swing. It is the source of all bad shots. Outside-in, blocking, over the top, hit behind etc. because for most golfers the mentality of right hand is to Hit, while the left hand is meant to swing, in the widest swing arc. Just saying. Thank you.
Lee Buck Trevino says you have Two club faces, the second one being the back of your lead hand. John Daly warms up with one handed chip shots with his lead hand!!
The legs are the foundation of the swing. The arse is the counter weight. The upper body is the engine. The left arm is the fulcrum, the right arm is the steering mechanism, the head is the balance point and the ground is the resistance along with the weight of body and club. Thank you gravity, where would I be without you.
Fascinating. Great stuff!