In this video Coach Lockey is rolling back the years and playing golf with a golf ball from the 1930’s. There is a lot of debate around golf balls going to far and it wrecking the game but do we actually want something like this to happen to improve golf and make it more enjoyable. How much difference does it make playing with such an old golf ball and will it effect Coach’s score. If you enjoy the video make sure you hit the LIKE and SUBSCRIBE button so you do not miss out on any other video uploads.
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29 Comments
You can’t stop progress they’ll keep getting better and I agree with Coach it’s hard enough already give yourself every legal advantage to improve
Thanks for doing the video. I am in favor of a roll back. I believe courses would be shorter and require less land and therefore be less expensive over time. The balls used here are not representative of what a rolled back ball because (1) they degrade in the box and (2) a modern ball would be more durable, have flight characteristics more dialed in and (3) would feel much better. Your par five comparison depends entirely on the length of the hole. Shorten the hole by 50 yards and the rolled back ball would yield more interesting golf than a driver/short iron with a modern ball.
Think the balls have deteriorated a lot , imagine playing a 50 year old pro v… cover would probably be peeling
In America during the 60s and 70s we had Dunlop balls but they weren't very popular. For hack golfers like me the main choice was between Titleist balata-covered balls or Spalding Top Flite surlyn-covered balls. Top Flites, especially in cold weather, were like hitting rocks but due to the no-cut cover could be played over multiple rounds. On the other hand, assuming I didn't blade a 3 iron and cut the cover, I could get maybe 12 holes out of a Titleist before it felt a little mushy.
I think it's too late to dial back at this point. Courses have been lengthened over time to adjust for new equipment the pros use including better flying golf balls. Plus it's not just a distance issue. Newer balls spin better and create that cool roll back shot the pros make with their wedges. That said I do think we are in a good place now and what limitations the governing bodies put on drivers and balls is a good thing so it does not get totally out of control. Where we are right now is a good place for all IMO.
Any hole over 420 is 3 shots to the green for me, unless I dare to hit a hybrid and risk losing my ball behind the green. I need the technology to help me not hinder me.
So…. with your argument, in 20 years time its ok if the ball goes another 50 yards further? Eventually golf courses would be 18 par threes
Coach pretending he hasn't browsed Wikipedia
The problem with these comparisons is that the old balls are, well, old. Maybe 50 years old. How would Matt's Callaway perform if left in a drawer for 50 years. Let's all meet in 2072 and find out.
How can you say the Callaway Chrome Soft is the #1 ball in golf? Is that not Titleist? Is that not false advertisement?
Coach are you based in Scotland? Most of the YouTube videos are English speakers. But I watch you consistently and maybe it's because my grandparents immigrated from Scotland. My last name is McCurry.
The last people who should have a say on what tour pros play are jealous amateurs 🤷♂️ why roll anything back.. that only plays into the hands of the longer hitters even more and who wants to see less eagles and birdies and people laying up on par 5s every time
Best ball I ever played with was the Dunlop ddh 500
There's definitely a middle ground to the roll-back argument and videos like this seem almost in bad faith. Bryson could go out and carry two drivers and 8 wedges because courses can't contain his length, and he's thusly not being tested throughout his bag.. He still should be rewarded for his driving ability, but I'd like to see a percentage rollback to cap distances at like…300 carry, just so we can keep using St. Andrews et. al. as a tournament venue.
Amateurs can play whatever they want. We've bifurcated baseball and we still have fun. This will be fine.
I'm pretty sure Old golf balls in great shape are worth much more than old golf clubs. You might have spent some big money today lol
The old wound core ball required spin (aerodynamics) to keep it in the air, thus you needed clubs which helped it spin. If you use a low spin driver, the ball ain't going to get or stay airborne. With the old persimmon driver you had to hit down a bit. Modern gear relies on ballistics science more than aerodynamics. Have a do with someone (Christian McMillan eg) who knows how to make old tech work. Better still, come to Morecambe or Fleetwood in early August for the Persimmon Revival Open.🙂 At Morecambe we have at least low single digit players entered, all have previous with Persimmon and Blades.
I bet 5 over
Hard enough for me. Let's see Rory and Co struggle. Bring back the Dunlop 65
oh Coach Lockey. back in my day u would win a golf ball when u played well in the previous Saturday competition. and back in those days each ball would be wrapped in paper. to unwrap the ball and play a new ball for the Saturday competition for a youngster was a joy and made u feel special. u should be hitting those balls with a wooden persimmon head. u get one in the middle and there is no better feeling for a junior golfer. hitting these balls without context is just not the same. i believe the compression of the balls compared to today is quite different resulting in different ball flights.
keep the ball the same but bring back the size of the 'metals' being used. back to the size of the old persimmon drivers. the best size were the old Taylor Made Metal Woods. they offered a good balance between tech and being too good. 460cc metal drivers in the hands of the pros is an advantage over the course that is a concern. watching the Canadian Open u could see most of the top pros in the last few groups hitting wedges and 50+ wedges into long par 4's. it became boring. it really was target golf.
Yeah… no. Don’t roll the golf ball back. Cat is out of the bag already. If anything the ball market is good right now and I don’t think it needs to develop that much more.
I cracked several balata balls back in the day. Some of them with good strike, but a thin was hilarious! I personally haven't seen much difference since the pro v came out, except for me being out of shape. 😆
FWIW — better players used to change out ball every three or four holes. Balata would scuff pretty easy. Some of those ancient balls were even worse. Makes you really appreciate the players in the 1920s playing with balls that would go out of round in a single hole, plus wooden shafts!!! Be like playing golf with a fly-fishing pole! Good grief.
Leave the balls alone, no need to change them.
I can remember in my teenage golf days with B51 and hotdot small balls, was a different world back then balls were bery dead off clubs. Just hope the powers to be do not wind back ball tec, it be disastrous on modern golf.
I just about remember playing with this ball. Definitely more of a challenge! Bottom line is amateurs need all the help that they can get and the top 0.01% who launch it 350 off the tee shouldn’t affect our game. Limiting their distance seems slightly unimportant tbh.
“Who’s got plus 5 after two holes”…I play at stover it can be quite a regular occurrence 😂😂😂😂
NOT!
Crumbs Chief you over hi pennfold old ball's fun to play with, a friend got given some old balls GOBLIN 1 we had a go with the irons no difference (I think I gained 10y with 7iron) 😁😊🤣