TLDR: in 2005 a stimp of 11 was considered fast and in 2025 13 was considered normal
hsd1010
Aimpoint driving everyone mad? 😆
Yangervis
Faster greens
ShortCable1833
Tbh after the shot link era, strokes gained and all the strategy system like DECADE… it is normal that putting it is not as good since we know now that it is relatively much less impactful than the long game at a super high level.
Griss27
-Faster greens
-Courses that reward elite drivers and ball-strikers over elite putters
-Outlawed anchoring
AdministrativeLaugh2
Those percentages are almost nothing and certainly not large enough differences to be statistically significant.
Right_Bike_5416
I can’t move on with my life until I see the percentage of putts pros make from 9 feet. Why didn’t they include that??
Ok-Plan-6277
Per Lou Stagner on X: the 2005 putts are more “bunched up” toward the short end (closer to the hole) than the 2025 putts.
themusicmancan
Standard deviation.
Dufferdoodle01
Today’s PGA tour is built on ball striking. Fewer putting specialists out on tour these days. More strokes to be gained by being a superior ball striker.
aquafeener1
Barely event statistically significant, but it’s green spends.
marlboro__man9
Besides faster greens it’s just not that good of a stat. What if in 2005 50% of the 4-8” putts were from under 6 feet but now only 42% of them are?
Dojo588
Because is old guys can putt. 😉
Educational_Report_9
For those saying “Tiger” you really struggle with math.
DatabaseCareless264
Greens are faster, truer, probably shorter now. I putt better on slightly longer grass, wetter grass. IMHO the ball holds the line longer.
bogeyz65
Faster greens with bad pin placements
The_Punisher_3114
Tiger is not playing as much
SquirrelFluffy
No Tiger.
TheBicycleOfTheSky
Greens are more difficult now..
respond1
Putting HAS improved just not enough to exceed the rate in which putting surfaces have been made more difficult (mainly faster).
victorfour20
People yelling “get in the hole”
TSR3K
Talk about marginal
poopinion
Faster greens, pins in tougher spots to try and fight against distance, Scotty Cameron losing his touch.
Snar1ock
This is what we call, not statistically significant. Is it odd that all are declined? Yes. Probably something in the data that explains this. Too bad PGA locks it up.
I’m guessing a rounding error that lowered the precision YoY.
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Faster greens
Tiger was like the best ever and raised it lol?
Agronomy
Speed (distance) priority in player skillset
That all just seems within a margin of error. But maybe greens have gotten tougher while putters improved?
Arms are tired from mashing it 320
The differences aren’t meaningful at all imo.
Harder greens
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Unlikely to be statistically significant
Greens are significantly more difficult
https://www.yardbarker.com/golf/articles/how_pga_tour_players_have_got_worse_at_putting_over_the_last_20_years/s1_17664_43489475
An article that explains exactly how
TLDR: in 2005 a stimp of 11 was considered fast and in 2025 13 was considered normal
Aimpoint driving everyone mad? 😆
Faster greens
Tbh after the shot link era, strokes gained and all the strategy system like DECADE… it is normal that putting it is not as good since we know now that it is relatively much less impactful than the long game at a super high level.
-Faster greens
-Courses that reward elite drivers and ball-strikers over elite putters
-Outlawed anchoring
Those percentages are almost nothing and certainly not large enough differences to be statistically significant.
I can’t move on with my life until I see the percentage of putts pros make from 9 feet. Why didn’t they include that??
Per Lou Stagner on X: the 2005 putts are more “bunched up” toward the short end (closer to the hole) than the 2025 putts.
Standard deviation.
Today’s PGA tour is built on ball striking.
Fewer putting specialists out on tour these days. More strokes to be gained by being a superior ball striker.
Barely event statistically significant, but it’s green spends.
Besides faster greens it’s just not that good of a stat. What if in 2005 50% of the 4-8” putts were from under 6 feet but now only 42% of them are?
Because is old guys can putt. 😉
For those saying “Tiger” you really struggle with math.
Greens are faster, truer, probably shorter now. I putt better on slightly longer grass, wetter grass. IMHO the ball holds the line longer.
Faster greens with bad pin placements
Tiger is not playing as much
No Tiger.
Greens are more difficult now..
Putting HAS improved just not enough to exceed the rate in which putting surfaces have been made more difficult (mainly faster).
People yelling “get in the hole”
Talk about marginal
Faster greens, pins in tougher spots to try and fight against distance, Scotty Cameron losing his touch.
This is what we call, not statistically significant. Is it odd that all are declined? Yes. Probably something in the data that explains this. Too bad PGA locks it up.
I’m guessing a rounding error that lowered the precision YoY.