Ludvig Aberg Shares Ryder Cup Stories While Playing TPC Sawgrass | On The Bag With Dan Rapaport

Ludvig Aberg Shares Ryder Cup Stories While Playing TPC Sawgrass | On The Bag With Dan Rapaport

I think it’s been it’s been an interesting year. I think obviously results wise I would have loved to have a little bit more success when I can’t really turn it over with my driver. I definitely [music] can turn it over with my irons. >> Come on, man. Shut up. >> It’s not how I thought I would play this one. >> Oh, it’s aggressive. Did it stay? >> Yeah, I stayed up. >> Wow, was that close. >> So, I picked up a a golf bag. It’s got a lot of teen Europe stuff on it, so I don’t love that. Um, let’s go see the owner of this golf bag. I feel like I’m like I’m getting like itchy from my arm being on the European stuff. If you hear that voice, it’s early. There’s de on the ground here at TPC Srass. This is what dreams are made of. Get a caddy. One of the most famous nine holes in the world for one of the best golfers in the world. This is one of those days where if you told 12-year-old Dan that you’d be able to do this, he’d be pretty [ __ ] stoked. What’s up? What’s up? What’s up? I was just telling these guys there’s a lot of Europe stuff in here. >> I know. I tried, too. >> You put that in. >> Yeah. >> Uh, what’s up? How we doing? >> Good, man. >> Back from the Middle East. >> Yep. Got back Monday. Had a long, long travel day. >> How was it? >> It was good. Yeah, I love being there. [music] >> Big one today. Big one today. I’m very excited for this. We are here at TPC Sawrass. We are joined by Ludvig Oberg for On the Bag, another episode. We’re going to do what we do on this show. He’s going to play nine holes, ball and hole like it was a tournament. We’re going to talk. We’re going to interview. We’re going to get really deep in the X’s and O’s. It’s going to be fantastic. You’re coming back from the Middle East. You were there last uh last week finishing up the season. >> Little bit of an offseason coming up. How’s the game feel? How are we feeling mentally? Are we going to shoot something, you know, 32, 33 [laughter] today? >> I wish. Yeah, I hope so. I mean, I’m excited about it. Um yeah, like you said, came back from Dubai on Monday and uh had a couple days to kind of reset and get rid of the jet lag and uh yeah, ready to go. I had this one circled on my calendar. It’s a big one. It’s a big one. Listen, uh before we start, also uh you know, it might get a little sunny out here, so I got my uh I got a hat that I just wanted to put on for the [laughter] day. >> This is the the biggest team in England, the most famous team in England. >> That was hard to watch. >> You like that? >> It’s been You know what? I I actually saw him play. I’ll tell you that. >> Touch your >> Yeah, you went to the game where we won. >> Yeah, I did. I don’t like to bring it up, but I did, unfortunately. Um, but yeah, big Harry Magguire scored a >> big hairy >> header in the 82nd. >> All right, kill. >> That’s the, you know, I’m going to wear this hat, but we’re a team today despite that. >> Thanks for putting me in a bad mood. >> Yeah, I know. I knew that probably wasn’t the best move before the first shot, but we’re going to get started here. So, so 10th hole at TPC Saras. We’re playing the an iconic nine holes. >> Obviously, you’ve played here a gazillion times. This is kind of one of your home tracks. >> Played the tournament here. >> This t-shot pretty standard. Just threw it at that at [music] that tree, that kind of V tree. Yeah, obviously with wind and weather you can be a little bit different, but the the space in the area you want to hit it is normally about 280 to 250, something like that. So that’s perfect. >> Um, so normally for me it would be a 3-wood >> pretty. So we just filmed one of these with Podrick Harrington and he was very like militant about me not talking to his bull. >> He good. Do not talk to my golf ball. >> How do you feel about that? >> You can say whatever you want. >> Okay, I can talk today. >> Talk whatever you want. >> That’s huge for the series because >> it was difficult. >> Um, so I want to ask you about your relationship with your caddy to sort of set the tone so I can try to >> put us in the best position to play well today because I’m a competitive guy and despite me not hitting any shots, >> I want to So we’re a team today. Is that what you’re saying? >> We’re a team. >> So, >> who are we playing against? >> We’re playing against TBC Sawrass. Old man poor. Come on. Uh how how like talkative are you and Joe when you’re on the golf course? Like how would you describe Everyone’s different, right? There’s some guys who are constantly chatting. Podrick was saying he doesn’t really want his caddy to talk much. >> Yeah. >> Where do you guys fall in that conf? >> Yeah. I think I think you know for me the most important thing is just to not be someone you’re not. So whatever that case might be, you know, I don’t want to force conversations. I don’t want to make him force conversation. I just want it to be very natural and very casual. So in between shots, yeah, we’ll talk a bunch. um we’ll tell stories and you know talk about things but I think the most important thing is just to >> don’t try to be anyone you’re not you know >> you can feel it when it’s like >> like if you’re like playing [ __ ] or whatever and he comes over and just you know you can tell >> come on man [laughter] shut up you know like that’s not >> like let me let me do my thing >> yeah like that’s not you that’s not me so um I think that’s the most important thing but yeah me and Joe we’ve we’ve gotten tight over the last couple years obviously since we started working together and Um, I trust him with everything I have and um, looking forward to keep working with him. >> Who was your caddy when you first turned pro? Cuz there was a guy before that, wasn’t there? >> Yeah. So, when I turned pro, um, his name is Jack Clark. Um, English guy. So, the backstory was he actually did a few tournaments for me when I was still an amateur and I got to play Bay Hill. >> I got to play Valpar. Um, Desert Classic that we talked about before. Um, and so basically his at the time fiance, they’re now married, is Meline Saxrom, LPJ player. Yeah. >> So, >> she worked with the same swing coach as I am. And it was just stuck in that we knew each other. >> It was a natural sort of uh thing and uh and yeah, we did my first six months together. >> So, was that tough to then decide, okay, I’m going different direction and then also like Joe was kind of with Kim at the time. >> Was that a sensitive kind of situation? Uh yeah, it was a little touching and feeling. Obviously, I’d never been in that situation before. >> You were like a college kid 6 months earlier and now you’re like breaking up relationships. >> Now I’m like telling guys to what to do and what not to do, right? So naturally it was it was hard. I still like Jack obviously. I still enjoy >> seeing him when I see him. He worked with Nikolai for a little bit this year and got to see him on tour. Um but yeah, obviously it’s never fun to tell someone those >> that was like a real business decision that you had to make like pretty much right off the bat. >> Yeah. Yeah, it was, you know, five, six months in uh in my pro career and um >> you just felt like you and Joe could be like a long time, like a long time. >> I think so. Yeah, I knew obviously Joe’s sort of track record with Ricky, 13 years with him and then two some years with with Tom and I knew that um personalitywise it was probably going to be a good fit. Yeah. >> Um >> so for me, you know, I obviously enjoy that decision. >> Well, it’s working out. >> This was a lovely t-shot. >> Yeah. Thank you. Just missed the bunker. >> Oh, meters. >> Yeah, it’s meters. >> I wasn’t expecting that. Do you think you’re I’m interested. >> No, I’m never going to switch. >> I feel like it would take you probably like what, a week to switch. >> Nah. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. >> Just you just don’t >> I’m just never I don’t know. >> You just have no >> too stubborn. >> Yeah. [laughter] It’s like >> I had a time in college where I’m like I might cuz they didn’t have meters books. Obviously, it was easy in tour but probably harder in college. >> Yeah. 100%. >> You never just said, “Okay, I’m going to take one week and just switch over to yards.” >> Nah, >> couldn’t do it. >> Okay. Well, it’s 124 meters. >> Set in yards, by the way. >> Oh, god. What is It’s [laughter] like what that be like 137. >> Yeah, 40ish. >> So, I’ll try to work off meters. That that is that like uh >> 25. You said 24. >> That’s That’s kind of a a little chippy pitching wedge. >> Yeah, I think right now it’s a little cooler in the morning. I normally have Yeah. in about 75 degrees. My pitching wedge is about 130. So, right now, I’ll just take a little bit off. Yeah. >> Perfect. And do you use any sort of like system for, you know, I know different guys have like course management systems. You just kind of feel it out like where you aim and your your start lines and all that. >> Yeah. You know, I try to keep it very simple. I try not to change too much. Like I like to work the ball ways. Um I feel like I play my best when I can do that. Um but again, it’s never going to be massive turns. There’s never going to be massive slice. >> You see like a slight draw here. >> Yeah, maybe a tick. Pretty pretty straight shot. Um, this pin you can be quite aggressive too. So, try to do that. [snorts] >> Straight back. >> Yeah. A little deep maybe. >> Oh, long. Look at that. Dang. >> Back edge. >> I think it was 124. [laughter] >> It almost looked like, you know, one of those like little wet ball flyers a little bit. >> It did. It did. It like knuckled a little right when right when you hit it. >> It did. Right. >> That So that’s interesting. When it’s wet, you can like it it bounces out a little bit. I remember playing some tournament this year and it had been raining and we would literally get like jumpers in the fairway because the ball was wet. >> Interesting. >> Um >> it just Yeah, I guess it’s probably just not it doesn’t grab as well on the ground. >> Yeah, just a less friction and it just takes a spin down it goes. So >> So how would you uh assess the year? We’re kind of at the end of it now. >> Yeah. Um I think it’s been it’s been an interesting year. I think obviously results wise I would have loved to have a little bit more success. Um but I also feel like for me in the last sort of 12 15 months so much has happened for me. So like I moved here. I you know got used to obviously playing tour and I’ve sort of learned a lot in terms of the structure of my practice and my training and I started working with a physio and all. >> You also had a very unique [snorts] like rise where you skipped so many like steps that a lot of professional golfers take. >> I think so. So >> like within what four months of turning pro, you were playing the Rder Cup. So like you didn’t have this sort of steady progression that a lot of other guys have. >> Yeah, I think so. Um but then I was still able to have, you know, some nice looks. obviously won a tour which was cool and um yeah just you know learning experiences throughout the year and I’m quite looking forward to these next sort of two months to just have time to like practice and train and improve >> because when you’re playing is it like you don’t want to make too big a changes >> I think naturally right I think you always have in the back of your head that you’re about to leave for a tournament or >> right >> I have to you know stay somewhat sharp and those things >> and also you’re probably in like with your body you’re in like preservation mode like >> Yeah. >> trying to avoid injury. >> Yeah. You can’t really train the same way. >> You can’t hit it as hard. Wasn’t as deep as I thought. >> No, but it flew a little fast, isn’t it? >> Definitely. >> They’re definitely soft. >> Definitely soft. >> I’m probably a little bit slow. >> Yep. It looks like it. >> That’s a pretty tiny little coin you use there, >> dude. So, I Funny story. I normally have in my wallet I have coins, but for my birthday, my girlfriend got me a new wallet, so I didn’t have any coins. So, when I showed up in Abu Dhabi, I’m on the first tea and I go in my wallet and I don’t have any coins. >> You wait, you go into your wallet to get your ball marker. >> Sometimes I do. Yeah, >> that’s the most inefficient thing I’ve ever [laughter] heard. >> So, I had to ask Fitzy like, “Hey, Fitzy, do you have a coin?” And he gave me a coin on the first tea in Abu Dhabi. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have had any. >> You know, we could find someone to get you some ball markers if you need. >> Yeah, >> I know a guy who makes some ball markers. >> I I got this one in uh Dubai. It’s uh >> Aim Point, huh? >> Yeah, I like to do Aim Point. I’ve done it for a while now. >> What do you see? Going a little left and kind of down the hill. Definitely the last six, eight feet. >> Up and over, right to left sort of thing. See what the speed’s like. little furry. >> That was your first putt, though. >> Oh, well, >> that’s one of the more like old school looking putters these days. You don’t see those that often. >> Like a normal blaze. >> Yeah. Like I feel like that’s like, you know, OG tiger style like the Newport. Uh >> yeah, everyone’s using a a mallet. Have you ever experimented with that or >> epidemic, isn’t it? >> You don’t like it? >> I don’t mind. I mean, obviously I can’t speak for other guy. I’ve never used one. Uh >> you’ve never even tried one? >> No. I mean, I will say this would be the time of the year to kind of look into it if you want. Um >> you’ve never messed around with like the labs or the no tors or any of that? >> No. I mean, I’ve always used an Odyssey. I think if you look at me playing golf 15 years ago, I had a little Blade White hot OG Odyssey and um I don’t know >> that’s the look that you’re used to. >> Yeah. I’ve just never really seen anything else. >> Are you like a tinkerer when it comes to equipment? Like will you try a bunch? No. >> No. >> So you’re not like different you’re not bringing different grinds and all that stuff? >> Um I might. I actually when I turned pro I I started to do that and I had probably two 60s that I usually traveled with. Um, but now I’m pretty set with the one I have. Um, I just I think the first term I switched into that one was Hilton head this year and it’s the L low bounce. I think it’s four four bounce. Um, and yeah, just very versatile. I like it. >> Are you mostly a 60 guy around the greens? >> 90% of the time. >> Yeah. >> 90%. I feel like I feel like the old uh the older generation kind of looks looks down on that. >> I know. >> It’s like uh back in my day, we used to use an eight iron around here. >> I’m not used to this 60 so much loft. Yeah. Um >> yeah, I think you know >> I’ve actually improved as a chipper when I stop using different clubs because I get better at reading the lie, using the hands, you know, lower hands, higher hands. >> Okay. So, you’re saying because you have the 60, you have to then sort of manipulate it yourself. >> Yeah. >> And that makes you kind of commit to it. >> Become more athletic in the way that I see it instead of >> two shots with two clubs and then you just go back and forth. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Well, I [snorts] guess I mean I know you know how what the how it’s going to come off like you know. >> Yeah. It’s more consistent. >> You know how it feels. >> Yeah. I mean I think at the end of the day there’s no right or wrong answer. It’s just whatever you like. >> Yeah. All right. I see I know this course like the back of my hand. Usually when we do this series, I’m like kind of asking the pro. >> Yeah. Well, you know this one. >> I know this course. You just got to keep it kind of like the V tree, the right side of it, right? >> Right side of it. Um, this T- box is new for this year’s players. >> Where was it? This is further back or what? >> This is further back. It used to be up here. Um, so they added this which made the hole longer. >> Yeah. Um, so today it’s actually like quite a two big pokes to get there. Yeah. Um, >> before it would be like if you moved it up, it was downwind, you would have some iron in. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> but yeah, naturally, ideally, you’d like to be just right of that little V tree. Hey, no issues there though, right? >> Uh, >> is that close to the rough line? >> Yeah, maybe. I can’t see. >> So, with driver, do you have like a stock shot or do you kind of like Is it a little draw you typically? >> Yeah. Yeah, I I play my best when it turns over just a little bit. Um I feel like when I can’t really turn it over with my driver, I definitely can turn it over with my irons. So, it’s like it’s a fine balance between where you are in the swing. Um >> it’s not that many drawers left. >> I know. That’s why I use the old Tylus driver because there’s a little bit more spin in it. Um and I know my ball speed’s good enough. It’s sort of around 80 to 83 84. Um, so I don’t feel like I need to chase distance really. Yeah. U, so I would rather have my miss spin 28 29 30 300 Yeah. or 30,000 rather than the >> 17 18 19. >> Yeah. Cuz that that 1718 18 better start on mine because it’s not coming back. >> Yeah. Cuz for me technically too when I start swinging it pulley I’m so far behind here. >> Okay. >> And I’ll just use my hands. Slow spin. I hate it. So, >> I’d rather see a little spinny miss than a knuckly. >> So, let’s go back to the beginning. So, you you said you told me you’re from uh Malmo area. >> Yep. Just outside. Yeah. >> What was like the golf scene like? How did you get into it? Who were the guys that kind of inspired you? Um, yeah. I think I grew up in a in a small town as love. Um, and uh the golf course is a it’s a nice place, but I mean, no offense, but nothing special. >> Was your dad a golfer? >> Um, my dad played golf. He never played professionally, but plays off three, four, so he’s a good player. Um, >> and uh, so he took me out when I was young. I’ve seen pictures of me being young on the course on the range. Um, but I never really liked it. That was the thing. Um, I never >> for you or >> Yeah, I think so. Um, it was just I enjoyed obviously being outside and hanging out with my friends, but I never quite got hooked on it from a young age. So, I was just, you know, being a kid playing all these different sports. And, um, loved football, obviously, soccer. Um, and, uh, >> how’d you get into Liverpool? >> Stephen Jared. you’re just Yeah. When you were a kid, you were just >> when I played football, I wanted to be exactly like him. Um >> just box the box. >> So everything that he did, I tried to do the same. Uh and then obviously right around that time, we bought Taurus. Um >> Fernando Torres. >> Yeah. I love Taurus. I love those two. Um >> So you played soccer growing up? >> Yeah, I did. I played played until I was 16. >> Oh, so you played quite a while. >> Yeah. >> Was that hard to give it up or golf at that time was kind of taking off? Yeah, I think it was it was a natural switch. Um, first off, I wasn’t good enough. Obviously, I was better at golf. Yeah. Um, >> but uh I still really liked it. Um, >> and then I moved to high school with which was about 45 minutes away. >> What do you mean? It was like a boarding school. >> Yeah, it was like a golf academy boarding schoolish. >> So, you lived there? >> Um, so I lived there, lived away from home. Um, and when I did that, naturally, I couldn’t play football anymore. Yeah. >> Um, >> so at that time, was it like I’m going to try to go to college? >> Um, yeah. Like during the time when I was in high school, that was definitely what I tried to do. >> You knew you wanted to go to the States? >> Yeah. I think because I think number one was I didn’t feel like I was good enough to be fair. >> Pro, you’re saying? >> Yeah. To turn pro? >> Oh, right there. >> Wow. The rake. >> The rake. Who put that rake there? >> Come on, man. Well, it sort of made our decision for us. >> I think it’s a layup, Dan. >> I don’t know how much of a golf sicko you are, but do you remember John Rom on this hole? I was just thinking to myself, I think you should probably go for it. [laughter] >> I do remember that. >> So, >> this is going to go right in the water. I believe >> that is >> I don’t understand any of that. >> We’re not going to do that. We’re not going to do that. >> No, I just don’t think I have the tools to >> I don’t know if there’s a person I draw turn from that lie muddy ball down feet in the sand. >> Uh do you think if if we if I recreated that lie and we were and I gave us till sundown. [laughter] >> Do you think you could get on the green? Yeah. [ __ ] no. >> Not there’s not no chance. No. Okay. Well, there’s our answer. >> So, we want to hit it where kind of at that tree just short of it. >> Yeah. It’s kind of a weird layup hole to be fair. Um >> because if you go at the tree and you go through obviously you have those branches hanging out. So I think normally you try to take it sort of where the branches come down and just left of it. >> Okay. >> So it’s one 139 m to the tree. >> So I think that’s a pretty good number. Maybe a little bit shorter than that. >> So it’s probably going to come out kind of >> it’s going to come out funky. >> Yeah. So you just kind of muscle in a nine iron. >> I think so. And if it comes out a little short ride, that’s fine. >> Man, this one’s weird. I still kind of want you to go for it [laughter] >> just for fun. What club do you think I would go for it with? >> Driver. >> Just hit like a low riser, you know? [laughter] Just kidding. >> You know what? I’ll take that. >> A nice little draw. Kind of had a nice flight on it. It was fluttering nicely. >> Good shot. So, a break like that on the golf course. >> Yeah. It’s not how I thought I would play this. >> How do you How do you Are you like pretty I mean, everyone has this image of you of being extremely level-headed. >> Yeah. >> You know, nothing can phase you. >> Is there more going on inside or are you actually pretty calm? >> No, naturally. I mean, we’re all humans, right? We all feel the same things, still hear the same things in my head. Um, but I’d like to think I’m pretty efficient in managing it. Um, so yeah, obviously when I hit a decent drive, you know, maybe a couple yard, um, >> which obviously makes a difference from laying up and going for it, >> yeah, naturally it’s going to piss me off for a little bit. Um, >> but, uh, yeah, most of the time if it’s a second shot on a par five, I’m like, I just make an old fashioned birdie, you know? Um, >> you lose what, five strokes or something like that. It is amazing though because like par is sort of a social construct like doesn’t actually mean anything but it does change your mindset so much. Like if you had to do that on a par4, doesn’t it? I just lost a shot. >> I just lost the whole shot where it actually >> everyone plays the course and it’s just how many shots you get in the hole in the whole course. >> Yeah, 100%. >> It’s it’s interesting like you know some people feel so much freer like hitting T- shots on par fives because they’re not as afraid of >> if they miss it you can still >> you can still make it up. Yeah. So, this is the funky part about this layup. >> This is good, though. We’re going to We’re going to get to see you shape a shot here. >> Actually hit a low face. >> This is such a good hole >> because it’s a par five and if you hit the right shot, >> you can have a crack at it. >> 100%. >> You can, you know, if you can get it anywhere over there, you’re got a good look. But if you if you miss, you’re just kind of I guess that’s kind of this whole golf course. If you miss the fairway, you’re just kind of playing defense the whole time. >> 100%. Um I love this golf course because it’s very straightforward. It’s very in front of you and you sort of know what to do. But if you don’t do it, then you’re going to >> You always see like a huge spread of numbers here. Like some guys can go really low and then some guys if you’re not in control. >> Yeah. >> Okay. 148 m. >> I’m going to shoot what it is online with the >> What’s the cover? >> 122 m on line with the camera guy. >> Yeah. >> So I’m excited to see what you do there. >> Yeah. Oh, preferred lice. >> Yes, sir. You got to hit something like kind of punch cuy that that carries like 125 meters, right? >> 130ish, something like that. >> The greens are soft enough that if it has greens are soft. Yeah. Although you don’t want to be long cuz if you’re long, you’re effed. >> You’d rather be in that front bunker. >> Yeah. Um Yeah. I think I’m going to hit like a little low six iron. >> Six iron? >> Yeah. Cuz I think a seven I can’t get it far enough and low enough because it’s a pretty low shot. It is a low shot. That that branch is annoying. So, I’m gonna hit a little low peeling six iron. >> Stay there. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> we’re in that front bunker. >> Start a little too far. >> Just start a little too far. That was a tough shot, though. We’ve had some interesting [laughter] ones here. >> Not that bad a shot, but um >> Have you played this tournament pretty well? >> Yeah, I played it well my first year. Um finished six or something like that. Um last year I didn’t play very well. Um but uh I I I love this place. >> Did you play junior players growing up? >> Yeah, I did. >> Um >> so you got pretty good. Were you before you went to that um like specialized school, were you already one of the top juniors in Sweden? >> No. No, I wasn’t. I mean, Holland’s my coach, he’ll say the same thing. He was like, “This guy wasn’t very good.” Um and uh but I just, you know, got better, continued to I enjoyed practice. So, when I got to high school, I’d never really practiced in my life. I just played. Um >> like I’d been to the range just for warm-ups basically. Um, so that’s just what I did from when I started playing golf till I was 15, 16. Um, >> probably not the worst thing though. I mean like you didn’t hate it by that point then. >> No. Exactly. Right. So I think I learned to compete and score and then obviously if you add into some really good practice and training, I think I just got better. >> So that school had guys who could like tell you, okay, like this is how you practice. >> Yeah. So Hans, my swing coach today, he obviously introduced me to all those things. You know, Trackman, Force Plates, you know, we have obviously the season’s a lot shorter. So between October and March, you’re just indoors. >> So you’re just hitting balls, >> deep into numbers >> and you’re just deep into numbers, swing plates, um videos, positions, all these things. So um I think that still I still today I think that laid the foundations for my golf swing. Um, and I’m glad that we did that. But, uh, yeah, I was >> I would imagine you’re pretty like with numbers, you’re pretty neutral, I would think. >> Uh, yeah. Like, obviously there’s not going to be too much deviation. >> I feel like you’re in sort of the Adam Scott mold of like pretty straight. >> I try to. Yeah, >> I try to. Um, >> but yeah, I always, like I said before on 10, I always feel like I play my best when I can do whatever I want. Um, which obviously makes me being pretty neutral, right? Not a horrible leave. >> No. You know what? I’ll take it. I’ll take it. >> Beautiful bunker. >> Such a nice bunker. >> Rates just beautifully. >> I almost feel bad today. You know what I mean? >> So, walk me through how you would approach this bunker shot. You pick a landing spot. >> Yeah. I I tried to see sort of obviously the first thing you look at is the lie to see what you can do, how it’s sitting. If it’s sitting nice, you can spin it a little bit more. That’s a I would say that’s probably an A minus lie. >> Yeah, that’s a good lie. Um, obviously it wouldn’t really matter if that lie wasn’t great because you have so much green to work with. Um, >> but yeah, I always like to pick a shot where I feel like I have the most margin in the bunker. So, >> I can just >> you see something kind of mid height landing halfway between the green. >> It’s almost like this shot. I feel like if I hit it really nice and clean, it’s going to fly a little further and check up. And if I don’t, I’ll chunk it and it’ll release a little bit more. So, >> I don’t really see how it misses. So, that one’s a little bit chunkyish, but >> if that was chunky, >> Yeah. I like chunky >> because of pick like that one. >> Yeah. Thank good. >> Thanks. But you didn’t hate it because you knew you had green to work with and >> Yeah. Exactly right. >> Yeah. >> And I could still hit that a little bit tighter to it and it’ll just fly a little bit further and check up a little bit more. Nice save. We had to work for that one. >> That was a hardworking five, wasn’t it? >> I’m coming. I’m coming. I’m coming. >> That was a working man’s five. That was a good part. Nicely done. Thanks. >> All right, we’re playing it drivable today, Ludvig. >> Y, >> we shot it at 286 [music] m. >> Yeah. >> Should be a good number for just a whack, huh? >> I think so. Yeah, I think. Uh, try to turn it over a little bit. [snorts] >> Hey there. >> I don’t want to say anything. Oh, it’s aggressive. >> Did it stay? >> Yeah, it stayed up. >> Wow. Was that close? >> There is actually a little bit of room there. Like I’m not sure. >> You’re sure it stayed? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Sure it stayed. >> I saw it bounce. >> I was expecting I guess maybe the rough’s a little longer. I feel like when I think of this uh this tournament in this course, I call it the Pete die [ __ ] you bounce [laughter] where basically the ball’s rolling off the front and then it gets that bounce off the wooden plank and then it splashes. So it’s like, okay, you didn’t have to rub it in like that. >> So maybe that one in the tournament would have been really close, but now it’s so soft. >> So they shaved or it’s just firmer, I guess. >> So I actually remember I think they left just a little piece of rough in there last year. Um similar to how they did on the front at 17, you know, that little patch of grass so it doesn’t spin. Everything goes down. Yeah. Um, but uh, but I mean my philosophy when it comes to these kind of holes or because that’s red, just take it on. If you get in the water, drop it and still make >> So, I was going to say that I feel like, you know, >> people often ask me like, what’s the difference between, you know, my level and the pros and there’s a million things, but one of them I feel like is not even physical, it’s that mentality. Like if you get a bunch of, >> you know, really good club players, >> they’re going to hit that T- shot so far right. >> Yeah. >> On average because they’re thinking, >> I don’t want to go. >> Don’t hit it in the water. Don’t hit it in the water. Don’t hit in the water. >> Whereas you’re just kind of like, >> I’m going to hit the shot that the that the course calls for. Yeah. >> And then deal with it from there. >> Yeah, I think so. I I actually remember I had a conversation with Rory about that about sort of certain drivable par4s and those things and he was like, “Dude, if I hit a shot that I really want, I’m going to make a two on a par4. And if I don’t, I’m going to find it. I’m going to drop it and still make a four.” So, you know, I think that’s that’s a great way of seeing a lot of these holes. Um, and uh obviously with strokes gain now there you it’s changed, right? In the way >> is better. in the way that people see it and strategy and those things. Back in the day, you probably would have seen a lot more layups and wedges and those things. >> Yeah. Well, I feel like the whole tenet Riviera, if you look at the shot length, even from like 2015, it was like 50/50 >> and now I think Justin Thomas is like the only person that lays up >> who lays up. >> Yeah. >> And I feel like he’s doing it just to make a point. >> It’s just a statement, isn’t it? Yeah. At that point, it’s just >> I’m have that much control. >> Eat [ __ ] Scott. Faucet. >> Well, if it hung up, it’s like you said it did. It’s actually a decent spot. You’re kind of going back up the hill. >> You know what? I’m getting a little bit less certain of myself cuz I don’t see it. >> It was so close. >> It was close. >> It was like as close as close gets. [laughter] >> Stay. Yeah. Stay up. >> Wow. Was that close. >> It hopped up. It It bounced here and then it just kind of trickled in. It must have. >> There’s a pitch mark here. >> All right. >> All right. I’ll just take a drop. >> Yeah. Probably crossed like right at the end, right? >> Yeah, there’s a pitch mark here. I would assume that’s right around where it is >> cuz we saw it land. Yeah. So, all right. Well, you said, you know, if you if you hit it in the water, you’re going to get up there and make a force. So, let’s do it. >> So, let’s do it. >> So, even this is a kind of interesting shot. First thing, do you look low? Do you look high? >> Uh, yeah. Well, first off, I gave myself a shitty drop. So, I wasn’t very smart. [clears throat] Most of the time I I like to see high just to take out variables. um >> really >> but you know this one this one probably calls for a low I think so I’m gonna go a little >> 54 >> 54 bank >> and it’s gonna kind of bounce in the fringe or >> and it’s almost like in the morning these shots I think are a little bit easier because there’s dew so it kind of skids a little bit more like afternoon when it gets a little stickier I think these shots are a little bit harder or less predictable I think so just going to give this one a little bump How about that skip? >> We are working today, Ludvig. I know >> we are working today. But I will take that again. Nicely done. Shot the putter ready next time. >> You can wait. I’ll get it for you. >> I’ll just tap it in. It’s fine. >> I can’t let that happen. Two holes in a row. That’s That’s one hole. Shame on you. Two holes. Shame on me. You do know what I’m talking about though. How like there’s two catties I went normally and they’re all like there’s a dance between them. >> I know. >> Oh, this is spicy. >> Yes. >> 136 m. >> Okay. >> So, that feels like nine iron probably. >> Yeah, I think so. I think it’s a little bit too early in the morning for a pitching wedge. >> It is warming up. >> It is warming up though. Someone told me this is the most three putted par three on tour. >> Really? >> Right. What we talked about a >> little bit more. >> Look, I got the kick down. >> Yeah, I think it’s going to be close, isn’t it? >> Oh [ __ ] >> I just saw the Pete dive [ __ ] you bounce. >> Yeah, it went in the water. >> Yeah, it did. He’s looking He’s giving me the look. [laughter] He’s giving me the look like I I’m not your real caddyy. This is where this is when this is when the relationship stops. No, I don’t know. I don’t know how that happened. >> I’m going to shoot it again. >> Uh, no. I trust you. >> Does feel like it was a touch into >> [ __ ] I never thought that was going to go in the water. >> I didn’t think it was in the water either. >> Battling. We’re battling today. >> We’re battling today. >> Did you hit it? Okay. >> Yeah, it was a good strike. >> Adversity. I mean, I took a little bit off, which maybe I shouldn’t have, but >> little adversity never hurt anyone, you know. >> God, I thought when I landed, I’m like, “Oh, it’s going to work it down to the hole.” >> I went from hole in one to let’s not make double pretty [ __ ] [laughter] fast. >> How was Joe out there? Is he pretty even killed? >> Yeah, super super >> just like never too high, never too >> No, I was I was excited to see him in the Ryder Cup just to see how he was in that environment, >> but he was [ __ ] >> That was kind of an interesting week for him. >> Yeah, I know. I saw him talking on a podcast about it because >> you know he is very much American and he’s been in those team rooms before. >> Yeah. >> So it is kind of a >> Did you Did you sense that he was didn’t like really know like >> how to he was trying to play it right? >> So yeah, I think so. I think it’s it’s naturally a tricky week cuz all of his buddies his closest friends right are on in the American side in the American team room. Um, and you know, obviously it’s a it’s a big tournament and and those things, but ultimately I think relationships almost comes first for those things. And he he wanted to make sure that he, you know, did it the right way, which I think he did. I thought it was really good. Um, but >> how intense are those like you talked about the team room? Like you won’t won’t talk to the Americans that week. It’s like kind of that. So not >> I I won’t really do that. I mean, yeah, if you see him walking to the range or whatever, you’ll you’ll say hi and those things, but >> didn’t even landed up here. >> No, it didn’t even land that short. How much did that chew back, huh? Sheesh. It landed a good five steps on the green. >> I know. >> It’s tough. >> That’s tough. So, it probably rolled in where? Like down here. >> Yeah, it looked like it, didn’t it? Damn. >> We could take one of the drops from the Tiger Woods video games. You just drop it on the green. [laughter] Did you play those growing up? >> Yeah. You know when you put the little arrow going straight in the hole? >> Oh, yeah. You can make every single putt. >> Um, okay. Yeah, there you go. >> There it is. That’s our Tiger Woods drop. >> Knock it in. Let’s make a Let’s make a crazy three. >> This would be a good >> sawrass three. Are you always a pin out kind of guy? >> Um, no. I mean, it’s So, there’s no real system to it. I just like to do it like I’ll keep this one in. Cool. >> Definitely breaking left. >> Yeah. Just trying to not fall in the water. That’s That’s objective number one. I’m >> still shocked that one went in the water. >> All right. Must have just chewed. [snorts] Not really. All right. >> Tough one to swallow. >> Tough one. Tough one. >> We still got time though. We can get hot. >> Giving you my forced forced pep talk that you hate. >> Yeah, exactly. [laughter] >> It’s okay, Ludvig. >> That was exactly the one that we talked about on 10. >> You’re going to be just fine, buddy. Look, it’s a beautiful morning. [laughter] >> This is a a tough driving hole, but it’s pretty. Like you said, this is a very typical sawrass straight in front of you. You know what you got to do, >> right? You know what you got to do. Uh you just got to do it right. >> Right down Main Street, kind of middle over that bunker. >> Uh yeah, exactly. Right. Nice. >> So, you mentioned the RDER Cup. >> Yep. >> Did you get it bad? Did you feel like it was >> What was your kind of Oh, >> you mean the the fans and the environment? >> Uh, I think they were quite nice to me to be fair. Um, but it was still it was still tough. >> Who were your partners? >> Uh, Fitzy. Played Fitzy twice. >> They gave it to him pretty good. >> Yeah, they did. Um and Raasmus one time in the in the four ball. So uh but yeah, I mean obviously we all knew going into it was going to be tough. Um we were all sort of expecting it. Um and uh and it was I you know it was definitely the most hostile environment that I’ve ever played golf in. >> Well, that was I think hostile is a good word because it just felt like a from my perspective like just a little mean-spirited. >> Yeah. >> You know, like it’s all and I’ve been to RDER Cups in the past where >> Yeah. And I’ve been to ones in Europe where, you know, they’re sort of needling the Americans, but it’s they’re singing. >> It’s like a little bit of >> levity. I felt like this one was like >> guys, you know, Twitter trolls had a few tall boys. Yeah. >> And we’re like, I get my chance to talk [ __ ] to Mroy >> and I’m going to take it. >> And it’s almost like socially acceptable to do so. Um >> and uh yeah, I mean, obviously the Ry Cup brings brings out those emotions, which is why it’s such a cool tournament because it’s so different. Um, but yeah, did it cross the line? Probably a few times. >> Like it was just kind of Did you feel like the I felt like it almost put the American players in kind of a weird spot? >> You know what? We actually talked about this afterwards and and I was you it’s obviously we were all expecting it, right? As European players and we were sort of preparing for it. >> You got to prepare for the worst in that scenario. >> Yeah. But I always feel like if I was an American player, I would be in an uncomfortable situation as well, you know. Um, >> it’s like you want to win, but you also kind of feel bad about what’s happening to your friends, >> right? Right. Um, but uh, but no, it was a it was a cool. >> Do you feel like it brought you guys closer? >> Potentially. >> Yeah. >> Like a little like us versus the world mentality. >> Yeah. I think naturally in a RE cup that’s the way that’s the way it’s going to be. Um, and I think I mean obviously Luke done a great job. I I’ve never experienced anyone else as a captain, but I can only imagine, you know, the way that he sort of prepared us and the way he led us was was just really cool to be a part. >> Can you tell me about those VR headsets that you guys used to prepare? Yeah. So, we uh we all played Wentworth uh a couple of weeks before and on the Tuesday or Monday or something like that, we had a team dinner just at the hotel and um we had some people come talk and they brought out these VR headsets and I’d never done VR ever in my life. Like, I’ve never even put a headset on. So, that was the first time I did that >> and uh yeah, it was it was actually quite pretty accurate. So, so you put on the headset, you’re at back page black and you hear like you like >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, they had like a mode and a setting for each player. >> So, like I would put it on and >> so personalized insults basically. >> Yeah. Yeah. So you would get on the tea box, you have obviously the grandson’s behind you and the first tea going this way and you it had a little button remote thing and like in one of the corners up here it said like Bob Fitzy Ludvig, you know, whatever and you just click on your name. It’s like >> that’s wild. >> Yeah. >> So you’re saying it didn’t look like animated, it looked like the actual >> No, it was and and I that was before we did the practice trip and I’d never played Beth Page before, so I’m like I don’t even know what it looks like, right? I’ve seen pictures of number one, but then when we got there, we’re like, “Yeah, that’s what it looks like.” >> That’s [laughter] crazy. >> You know, >> were you surprised at how the course played? >> Yes. >> It was insane. >> Very. >> I’ve played that course a bunch of times, it literally that’s the easiest I’ve ever seen to play. >> Like, can when people go camp out and play, it’s way way harder. >> I mean, yeah, it was it was shocking. I thought when we got there in the practice trip, I’m like, >> “Yeah, she’ll grow it up and make it firmer for next.” >> Cuz it was like it was soft like that for the practice trip. >> And then we came back for the tournament. It was the same thing. Yeah. >> I mean, everyone’s hitting like five irons out of the rough that to front pins. >> I know. It was wild soft it was. >> Okay. We got >> Where’s the flag? >> It’s like right behind this tree right there. >> That’s why I couldn’t see it. Oh, there it is. Hello. >> Yep. >> What a great approach shot this is. >> Yeah. >> 180 m. >> Long hole today. >> Beefy hole today. Yeah. Got to hit two good ones. >> Um, okay. >> Pin looks like it’s kind of back left or is that middle? So we learned from the last one that we had a little touching >> little little whisper into. So one what I say 180 meters is what? So is that a six iron? Full six iron 5 iron >> I think. So yeah it’s right around that I have ball a little bit bel above my feet. So this I I love this hole because obviously this everything just says turn it over, right? >> So >> I’m going to go a little sixiron. >> It’s a fun shot, isn’t it? You can like see it. Yeah. Something that starts like >> Yeah. Some starts just right in the center. Something like that. And just works its way to [snorts] just like that. >> Just like that. >> Little short. >> I don’t think so. >> Yeah, I think it’s a little short. >> Okay. Well, it was a beautiful shape. You hit it. Do you hit it not perfect? >> Uh, it was a little bit sort of high on the face from this sort of ups slope. Like >> I feel like sometimes I get a little bit toe into it when I hit this shot. Fall above your feet. I could just feel it. It wasn’t like >> All right. So, we’re going to we’re doing the weird jump around here. We’re going back to So, we get to high school. >> Okay. We’re going back to high school. >> Yeah. >> Um, Texas Tech. Obviously, love is a long way away from Sweden. >> Were you were you uh how did that come to be? Were there other schools that you were looking at? >> Um, yeah. So, obviously growing up in Sweden, you don’t really have affiliation with a school in America. You know, obviously you’d heard of the Stanfords and the Harvards and those things, but um and then yeah, I played play a [clears throat] bunch of junior tournaments where college coaches would come out and recruit. >> So, you came over to the States a few times or championship. played some AJA events, played uh European boys, European team um a couple of those British boys and then I uh I learned that Texas Tech was one of those. I’ve met Sans for the first time. Um and Tech had originally had some Swedes in the past and Scandinavians. So at the time when I was there, we had two guys, Felic Nain and Autumn Blume. So >> wait, say those names again. >> He was a [clears throat] really good player. Uh, Frederick Milan. >> Okay. >> Frederick. >> Frederick Neand. >> Maybe that’s how you say it in English. >> Fred Nat. >> Frederick Milan. >> Have you seen those um the when the Premier [clears throat] League players like say their names? >> Yeah. In in their local language. >> Christian. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Um so yeah, for me and our assistant coach at the time was Norwegian Mikuel. Okay. >> Um >> so for me >> and Swedish and Norwegian are pretty close, right? Like you can understand >> speak the same language sort of. Um, and it would be like maybe Spanish and Portuguese sort of good comparison. >> Yeah, something like that. Um, so yeah, for me it it when I took the visits, I actually visited I took a trip in my junior year of high school, I think, uh, where I saw Tech Arizona State in Utah. >> Interesting. >> Because I had a Swede uh, that I was friends with at Utah >> ASU. That facility is insane. >> Sick. And that was before they built that. So, like when I went on the visit, I remember they showed me the blueprints of the bird facility. Um, and it’s sick. Yeah. >> So, how’d you how’d you settle on tech then? >> How? >> Yeah. >> Um, yeah, it was it was just because of the the relationships that I felt like I could create and that I somewhat already had, I guess. >> Do they have a pretty good setup? Like their own course and stuff? >> Yeah. So, the the course is owned by the university and it’s right across campus. So, like it’s a two-minute drive from where we lived. Um, >> you go hit balls whenever you want. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We played two, three courses in town, just qualifiers and those things. And, um, practice facility was great. >> Super windy there, isn’t it? >> Quite windy. Yeah. Um, I will say this time of the year it’s perfect. Like September till early December, it’s like perfect, but then when the spring comes, it gets really windy. >> Yeah. And hot in the summer, right? >> Yeah. But it’s dry heat, too. So, >> yeah, we keep getting some funny lies, don’t we? >> You know, we’re playing a a world class golf course. It happens. >> Yep. >> So, you’re choking up way on this to just kind of make it feel like a more natural >> Yeah, exactly. Just so I don’t have to stand up too tall. Um, >> and obviously it’s just a little bump and run, isn’t it? [snorts] Little the little skippy pitches have been nice today. >> So that one you took 54 though. >> What’s that? >> That one you took 54 cuz you just you knew it was going to be super high. >> So much green, right? So >> plus I feel like when you when you have a funky lie like that, I just wanted to get something on it. Oh, >> head cover. >> I was hoping that I might be able to lose this head cover before the end of the day. [laughter] >> Nice try. Um, so yeah, just to get something on that. >> Nice. All right. Still one over. >> Okay. Okay. >> That’s a beefy hold. >> We need some birdies, don’t we? >> We do need some birdies. An eagle would be nice, too. Getting greedy out here. >> Yeah, good point. Good point. >> Little bit of uh culture shock when you got to Texas. >> Yeah, I think so. Uh, but I I loved it. I think from the start I loved it. Um, everyone I mean Texas people are the nicest people you ever meet. I everyone was so nice and friendly and um, yeah, it just made me feel very welcomed from start. Um, >> did you have a good like were you good off the jump? Did you have a good freshman year? And then it progressed from there. >> My freshman year was co so I naturally my first fall I didn’t play amazing. Uh I think just from coming over and everything new and learning the language and all these things I think I struggled >> English not good back then. >> It was okay. It was definitely not what it is today. Um we study English in school but it definitely wasn’t what it is today. There was like certain conversation I’m like I can’t say this. I can’t join this conversation. >> Right. You know what you want to say in your head. >> Exactly right. But I just don’t know how to >> frustrating experience. >> Very frustrating. Yeah. Um, so that was like a a tricky thing I remember. Um, >> picked it up quick. >> And then my freshman spring is when CO happened. So I just went back to Sweden for six months. >> Got it. So there was kind of like a like a false beginning to your college career. >> Yeah. And then you come back in the fall and everything’s shut down and just weird. >> Uh, yeah. So good hole again. >> Great hole. I mean, it’s 345 m run out of so it’s just straight away, right? >> Yeah. I mean, there’s two trees, the trunks, the pine trees that you see sort of the right one of that one is perfect. Cool. >> Beautiful. Wow, was that good. Nicely done. >> That was nice. So, were you one of these kids who always knew that you wanted to be a pro golfer? Like from the time you No, no. Even when you got to college, were you not? >> Um, I think somewhere along late high school years, early college, I realized that I wanted to play golf. Um, >> but I think one of the reasons why I went over to college too was because of the degree and the education because >> in Sweden there’s no such thing as, you know, studying and doing sports at the same time because Yeah. It’s so different. Studying is a full-time job. Like you can’t do anything else. And I felt like I wasn’t good enough to turn pro when I was 18, 19. So for me to come over and get both was like no-brainer because >> Were you a decent student? Like you always like >> I was okay. Yeah, I was okay. Um I wasn’t a star student, but I always felt like, you know, education was important. Um >> what did you study at tech? >> Business marketing. >> That’s like a real degree. >> It’s not like, you know, physical education. Yeah, it’s not universal studies. Yeah. Um, >> so yeah, I always felt like, hey, if if I go over to America to play golf and I don’t become a golfer, that’s fine, you know, at least I’ll have four good years and a degree in my pocket. So, and then somewhere along the lines, I’m like, okay, this is what I definitely want to do, you know. >> Well, so PJ Tour you, when did that get announced? Because I know you were the were you the you were the first year, right? >> Yeah. So my I mean P3 you had been around for a few years >> but it was only corn furry. >> But it was only corn furry and it was sort of like conditional corn furry and we didn’t really know how it was going to translate um and how it was going to evolve. Um and then my senior fall I remember they announced um that the number one guy was going to get tour status. Um >> and you were already up there. >> Yeah. And I think at the time I was number one um in the fall and then I had a good sort of early spring and then I could kind of cozy it away. >> So you had a you were leading pretty much the whole year. >> Yeah. Um >> but that must have been good practice because I was talking to someone. I went to Lacosta to the NCA this year. Yeah. >> And I was talking to this kid >> this kid who went to Virginia and he was saying >> he he just felt so much pressure. Yeah. >> With PGA Tour you. >> Yeah. And what I said to him was like, “Get used to it.” Basically, like, >> I mean, pro pro golf, you’re always >> the way it is. >> I got to do this to get in the top 50. I got to get this to get to the like you’re always going to have%. >> Yeah. >> So, that’s probably good like practice for you to >> you got to keep playing while you’re number one, but it’s, you know, you got to you got to close it out. >> Yeah. I think uh obviously it was such a big carrot to have, such a big deal to work towards that, >> you know, the the the uh the benefits of get number one was massive, right? So, Ultimately, yeah, you you feel pressure. Um, but I also feel like that’s what you sign up for when you play professional sports. I mean, there’s always a cut line. There’s always >> a rider cup to me. >> Exactly. Right. There’s like even when I turn pro, like, yeah, I got my tour card. Then you want to get in top 50 and then you want to get into majors and signatures. So, like there’s always the next sort of step. Um and uh and yeah, PG2U was a great sort of >> What do you feel like you improved on in college to where you were able to have this incredible run right to start your career? >> Um I think I mean like uh like physical attributes. I just got better in general, hitting the ball better, striking it better. >> Were you like skinnier when you came? >> Yeah, I was super skinny. Added some weight, added some distance. Um, I uh I used to have this like really strong left hand, really strong right hand and I would be a little cross and then I would just do this. So like I would just rope hook everything. >> So you and Hans did some serious work. >> So we did some work. Yeah. Um and and just continuously got better and then I uh I think it was a big deal to just move away from home and >> Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Cuz when you when you come over, you’re almost like sort of already being a pro golfer in a way. >> Yeah. And I think >> like you’re there to play golf. >> My my biggest issue when I came over was like time management. It was [ __ ] terrible. Like I didn’t know I would double book myself. I would be at to be at two plays at the same time and all of a sudden it’s 11:00 at night. I have to do homework for 7 in the morning. Like those things. And being away in America, I think just got I got a lot better at that. >> Yeah. 143 meters from here. So maybe I should shoot it from where we’re hidden from. >> 140 m. >> Okay. >> Is that just full nine? A little warmer now? >> Little warmer now. >> Should be a good nine. >> This is a green light pin. >> Yeah, it looks like it’s just in the center, isn’t it? >> Yep. Driving range special. >> Perfect. Little slippage. >> Yeah, slipped a little bit. >> Didn’t hurt the golf shot. >> See it? >> Very nice. >> Lands so soft, doesn’t it? Almost come back. >> It does come back. You did slip. >> Yeah, it did. >> Do you ever have like palms slipping? Is that like a thing that happens to you? >> No. No, >> normally not. >> No Scotty Shuffler here? >> No, not a ton. Not a I gota ask you like you’ve played with him so much. I I find it I find him to be just the most incredible person to watch because you just you never you never teach someone to like swing the it’s so homemade. >> Yeah. >> What do you make of of like what he’s done these last couple years and and seeing it up close? Like what do you you know when you’re going when you’re an old man and you’re a grand grandfather, you’re going to say, you know, I was there when Scotty did all that. What what like sticks out to you about it? Um, yeah. I think you can always look at sort of the way he moves it and how unconventional it might look, but if you look at sort of the way he actually swings, it’s ridiculously good. >> Yeah. Like all the I I’ve asked the coaches like when he was first going on this run, I was like, “What do you think of his swing?” They’re like, “It’s incredible.” >> Yeah. I mean, I think the the biggest thing when I look at his swing that stands out is just the face control. And obviously he moves laterally a lot more than most guys, but his face control from here to here is just it’s just like square square square. >> So like that to me stands out. And [snorts] then I think just the simplicity of the way he plays, you know. I think >> he understands when to hit shots, how to hit them. Um he’s really good at the boring stuff, you know, just hitting the same shot over and over and over. And then he gets to the point where, you know, I need to hit the 600 up to the moon to stop it and I’ll do it, you know? So, like >> it doesn’t always look mega spectacular. >> No, I think he wins tournaments a lot. It, you know, it reminds me of when Tiger would win tournaments where it’s, >> you know, it’s a lot of it’s a lot of seven irons to 20 feet. >> Yeah. And then he gets hot with a putter and rolls a few in and five six00. >> No problem. So that’s the part that I’m really impressed by cuz we all know he’s got more speed in the tank. He’s got, you know, >> oh, he plays like this cut, >> but he plays a 78 to 80 ball speed little cut and, you know, he’s he’s fine with it. So obviously he’s the best driver in the world. >> Are you a guy that will watch try to pick up things from other guys or is it it’s all too individual? >> Uh, yes and no. I think I think there’s certain things in in sort of the structure of how you do things that you can change and sort of learn from others. Um, do you mind just giving it? >> Yes, sir. >> Right. >> I think technically there are two big differences to to learn from. I mean, I’m never going to move the way Scotty moves. I’m never going to move the way Rory moves. You know, that’s just the way it is. Um, >> but there’s probably aspects of your golf swing that they really like and that they don’t do. >> Yeah, perhaps. Right. >> For sure. >> Tell you that right now. >> I feel like we need this one then. >> I would like it. I would definitely like it going into the the three, you know, the three hole cauldron. >> Yeah, >> it’s a pretty good look up the gut. Is it going to fall right? >> Yeah, it’s it’s it’s almost like the grain is going a little this way, but the the this the slope is going a little left to right. So, >> I like this look for you. >> I’m going to place this a little left center, left edge. Little disappointed it moved all the way over from there, too. Yeah, we’ve we’ve hit some shots that I thought were going to be a lot better. >> Yeah. >> Stay straight. >> Stay straight. Yeah. >> You’re probably also not used to the greens being this receptive. >> Yeah, they’re quite soft. >> Yeah. Like that that that came back like what 12 feet. >> Yeah. >> All right. Solid par. >> Ah. >> Headed to a par five. >> Yep. Par five coming up. We got this. So, are you playing hero? >> No. >> No. Have you you did it once, right? >> I played it last year. Yeah. >> I really enjoyed it. >> Pretty insane place. >> Cool place. Um >> you stay right like on the property there. >> Stay. You have a golf cart that you ride around in. And um I uh Yeah, I really enjoyed it. But >> you’re just you’re going to England, you said? >> Yeah. So I thought to myself to just give a myself a little bit more time to do nothing and train and practice and those things. um instead of sort of dividing up the offseason into >> right because you know you didn’t really get any I mean did you take some time off between tour championship and Ryder Cup or no? >> Um no not between those two. I took a little bit off between Ryder Cup and Dubai. Okay. >> Um me and my girlfriend went to Greece for a week which was sick. >> Yeah. >> Um >> like did the whole island thing. >> Yeah. We went to Santorini. Um and you know just kind of went off the grid for a week. Sick. >> So that was really nice. You don’t you don’t realize how much you actually use your phone when you’re on those like when I went on that trip because I just left my phone in in the room. Like I didn’t use the whole week, right? >> And [snorts] you don’t have screen time on your on your phone. >> What’s that? >> So you don’t have like screen time on your phone >> that week or I’m saying in general? >> Yeah, in general I probably have, you know, three hours or something like that. >> That’s still pretty low >> for for our generation. >> Yeah. I try to just stay away from it to be honest. I remember in the tournament we always we always said that uh the island that you see where the trees are that’s normally a pretty good one. But today I’m going to go >> Yeah, that is a little aggressive. >> A little bit right of it. Stay there. It might be just through rough. I can’t really tell from here. That’s the miss you like to see. >> Yeah, that’s the miss I like to see. Um >> I mean you don’t like to see a miss ever, but >> No, but if it’s a miss, if I have to pick one, I pick that one. Yeah. >> So, everyone is like obsessed with how fast you play. >> Um >> do you feel like you’re that fast or is this the standard is so slow for pro golfers that you’re actually they see someone play? >> It’s more It’s more of a perspective, isn’t it? [laughter] >> Like did you think did you think I’m really fast or has you been like kind of surprised by all this? >> No, I think I think once in college never thought of it once. that was just the way it was. Um, and uh, and then yeah, I turned pro and and became more of a thing, I guess. But I think, yeah, like I’m pretty fast over the ball, but I’m not that fast when it comes to routine and process and talking to Joe. Like, >> so you’re you’re saying you’re good for Instagram because they can get that 10sec clip. >> They cut it, right? They edit [laughter] it. >> Um, no. So, like you’ll hear me and Joe talk about things when I’m moving around on the greens. like I don’t like to rush things. Um but yeah, is is golf slow? Absolutely. So >> So you’re saying you’re not you’re not actually that crazy fast. It’s just over the ball you’re quite decisive. >> Yeah. And you know, I think I like to move fast. You know, I like to be ready when it’s my turn to hit and um I like to be able to go when when it’s all clear. So yeah, I don’t like to wait around. So, you’re happy to wear the wear the mantle of of the fast player. Unfortunately, you’ll take that. >> I don’t mind that. But I will say sometimes I get a little too fast as well. So, like I have to like chill down a little bit. >> Is that why like when you’re in the mix in contention? >> Yeah. So, like sometimes you’ll see me up here and Joe’s like back there and he’s going to have to like dude [ __ ] >> Will he tell you? >> Yeah. >> Just relax a little bit. >> Sometimes he’ll tell me. Sometimes we’ll just naturally like talk a little slower, >> right? Or if he moves and >> he moves a little hit until the clubs arrive. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Um so there are ways to sort of work around it. >> The box breathing situation. >> Yeah. Yeah. I use it I use it every now and then. Um >> so walk me through that again that process. >> Yeah. So I it’s it goes along handinhand with what I just said of when I get too fast I do everything fast. Like I’ll start walking faster. I’ll start talking faster and everything just happens a little bit faster. Um, so that’s when I’ll I’ll take a moment to do that breathing exercise which basically is, you know, you breathe in for five 4 seconds, you hold it for 4 seconds, you breathe out for 4 seconds and hold it for 4 seconds. So it just like a box that goes around >> and just kind of brings your overall speed down. >> Yeah. And I think when you focus on the breathing, the brain is funny because it can only focus on one thing at a time. And if you can put that focus into the breathing, then everything else kind of disappears a little bit. >> So, you want your mind to be pretty pretty damn quiet over the ball. >> Yeah, naturally, right? I think I think uh you know, I use the Playbox think box quite a bit as a structure of my play. And what Playbox think box? >> Yeah. So, it’s a it’s a vision 54 thing. It’s actually two suited that uh started doing it. And uh it’s basically if when I’m over here thinking about the shot I’m going to hit, that’s the think box. So you know, you write down 154, whatever. And then once you get into the ball, that’s the play box. So like just to have a a set structure of like >> Yeah. Once I once I approach the ball, >> we’re playing now. >> Yeah. >> 198 meters. Does that sound right? No, that doesn’t sound right. >> Uh yeah, it could be. Could be. What? Uh >> yeah, he’s 214. So he’s cover the bunker is 181 meters. >> 81. >> So you thinking like an 85 shot? >> Yeah, probably. Right. And try to land it around 85. >> Just get full six iron. >> Yeah. I’m trying to think what it’s going to do out of this. 85. Is it 90 hole? >> Yeah, I think it was 90. Let me just double check. >> Is that what you said? No, you said 98, didn’t you? 98. >> 98. I’m going to go a little five. >> Try to come in a little bit that way. >> I don’t really know where that pin is to be fair. >> I think it’s front. >> Is it? >> Cuz the tree is 214. >> That tree is 214. >> The one on the left is 208. Sorry. Yeah. Front. Just sit in that little area right there. It should stay short of that. >> All right. That’s a popular bailout tournament week. >> Yep. Popular spot. [snorts] >> Such a good hole though, isn’t it? It’s awesome. >> I think >> I love it. And you can see the guys like sneak a look at 17, too. >> Yeah. >> You know, as you get up here, >> it’s just a cool environment to come in tournament week. Like >> they’ve already got the grand stands going up. They ever take them down? >> Yeah, they do. Yeah. >> It’s like impossible. I feel like I don’t know how how you feel about this, but I feel like if I was a player, I’d be almost be trying not to look at 17, [laughter] but once you around this corner, it’s pretty difficult not to take a peek. I know. It’s a It’s a cool environment to come into. Obviously, you got grandstands all along this side, all over around this side. It’s like a stadium, you know? >> It is a stadium. >> Um I think it’s I’m a little bit biased because I live here, right? And I play here all the time. But >> I think this is the best finish in golf because >> if you pull off the shots, you can quite easily, you know, make three, two, three, right? But you can also make six6 like that, you know, >> easily. So, I just like that sort of straightforwardness. Here you go. It’s a nine iron center green. You got to hit it. But if you don’t, you know, you get punished. >> How have you played that hole in your career? >> 17. >> Yeah. I’ve never hit in the water. I played it two years now. And >> we better not have jinxed that. >> I know. >> Um I’ve hidden the water in practice rounds and you know, >> it’s okay. You got to get them out during the practice round. >> Exactly. Right. Um tournament week. I’ve never um I think I voted it I think I’m three under for my career. Something like that. >> That’ll work. That’s pretty good. >> I think so if I get my facts right. >> But that’s a good spot. You left it in a very nice spot. That’s an interesting little pin. >> Never seen that one actually. >> It’s like almost half on the ridge. >> Yeah. Back pin over there. Sneaky, too. Isn’t it? >> Really good. >> Yeah. >> It’s there in this on Sunday, right? Front right. >> Yeah. I think they put it down here, didn’t they? I always think of Ricky Fowler when I’m here. >> Yeah, >> this is an interesting one. 54 or 60? >> I would probably go 54, but you’re a 60 guy. >> I know. I I I did say a couple holes ago I had 90% do. >> This is an interesting chip though cuz you you got to almost keep it like at the flag or left of the flag. I feel like cuz it’s going to roll down. It’s like almost asking you to hit it like 3 ft left. >> I’m going to take your advice and go 54. >> I just I love the way you’ve been hitting those low ones today. Yeah, it’s a it’s almost like a double breaker though. Like >> it’s a strange looking chip. >> Yeah. >> Overseed looks nice, isn’t it? >> Yeah, it’s got coming in nicely. >> Yeah. I got to go a little this way and then kind of straighten >> pretty straight overall. >> Pretty straight overall. Maybe a little bit right to left. >> Beautiful. So, I noticed you did a little toe tappy job. >> Yeah, I do that sometimes. >> Is that’s not a conscious thing though? >> No, it just kind of >> But I saw like Adam Scott talking about it’s like a to trigger the weight forward almost or >> I don’t know. I I I just sometimes in chipping it just happens. I can’t I can’t put any weight on why it happens. Uh, >> just does. >> It just does. Yeah. >> Where do you stand on the shallow, steep, chipping BSP war that we’re fighting online? >> It’s a it’s an online war. >> It’s kind of hilarious. I love it. [laughter] >> Yeah. You know, I think I think chipping is is an interesting thing because there are different ways of doing it. There’s not, you know, >> some guys will argue there’s only one way to do it and some guys will not. And you know, I think in general, yeah, there are certain things that the best chippers do, um, that you’ll see throughout their chipping. Um, >> but are you like, do you use the launch monitor when you’re like chipping to see all your No, >> never. Never. Um, >> so you’re not looking at your how much down you are? >> No, I don’t. Um, yeah, obviously you’re always going to get trends in golf. You’re always going to get trends in sports and different ways of doing methods and those things. And you know, I think the most important thing is just to know how you work and things that you like. Um, and uh, and then take it from there. >> Yeah, there’s no one way to skin a cat in this game. >> No, that’s the funny part, isn’t it? Um, but uh, I love chipping. I think chipping is the best part of the game because >> really you just enjoy it. >> Yeah, it’s just creative. See different shots, you know, go high, go low. Like these chips that we’ve had today, there’s not one way to hit them. You know, there’s multiple ways of hitting. >> My take away from catching for you for seven holes so far is I think the narrative on you is a little bit wrong as a golfer. >> I think people I think people portray you as like a very robotic like >> you’re just out there like a you know, Swedish cyborg just hitting the same shot. You like to curve it. Yeah, >> you like to you like to do stuff around the greens. Like I think people have that a little bit wrong. >> Okay. Yeah, perhaps >> sound somewhat believable. >> Perhaps. Yeah, I think um I think it’s important to have both sides. You know, obviously when you’re playing well and you’re on autopilot, it might look like, you know, robotic or whatever you want to say, but that’s also every player on the world when you’re on the PJ tour, you know? >> Yeah. Like when it looks good, it looks good. >> When it looks good, it’s pretty [ __ ] good, you know. Um, >> so you must love Augusta then. >> Yeah, I do >> with the creativity and the chipping. >> Absolutely love it. Yeah, I think there’s so many smart things about Augusta that’s so underrated. >> Um, so many like key shots that like >> like give me an example. >> Uh, number 10 for example. Um, I love that hole because obviously you got to turn it over off the tea. If you really take it on and you turn it over, you get a flat lie going up against your green that looks a little bit like this, >> right? >> But if you don’t, you bail it out, you have a ball below above your feet. >> It’s a brutal >> to a green that looks like this where the right bunker’s dead. So like >> all these little things. >> I can see your face light up even talking about it. >> I know. >> 13 unbelievable [snorts] golf because >> Well, you never played it before they lengthened it, did did you? >> No. No. >> No. Um, >> so it’s just driver for you now, right? >> Yeah. how you hit driver straight, but you have the ball above your feet and obviously right’s no good and the wind’s normally always in off your left. So, you have to hit a ball that goes this way to that wind. And I don’t know, it’s just >> Tiger would always talk about that like one of the things that he felt like separated him was being able to hit like cuts off draw lies and draws off cut lies >> and like So, you got to do that big time at a >> You got to do that big time. >> You got to be able to hit cuts off draw lies. >> Yes. >> Oh, we got a spicy pin for it today on 17. Spicy Sunday pin on 17 at Sawrass. >> Let’s go. >> This is uh >> It’s a good pin. >> I’ve never been here when it’s not tournament week. It looks It looks a little different. >> Looks a little different. >> It looks a little bit different. >> Little >> It looks bigger. >> Little You think >> the green looks bigger because there’s no grand stands, I think. I don’t know why. >> And I guess they put up these u these this wooden board behind it. Um >> and uh yeah, maybe that makes it look a little bigger. >> Okay. 132 meters from here. So I should probably shoot it from where we’re playing. >> Yep, that’s a good idea. 128 meters. >> 28. >> I want I I do not want anything on my conscience here. I’m going to let you talk us through the golf shot. >> Well, you know, I think we’ve learned today that the greens are quite soft. >> Very soft. >> Right. So, my only concern if I go with a pitching wedge, which is a pitching wedge number, it might react a little bit because obviously that green looks almost like this when you get on that right side. So, I would almost be on a little nine iron just to take some spin off. I’m >> going to feather one in there. I think that’s the shot that it calls for, isn’t it? >> I’m leaving this one up to you. >> Okay. I love it. >> We’ll see. >> Little feathery nine iron. >> And you know what? You said 28, right? >> Yeah. Let me just quadruple my number. >> Two back. >> Oh, that’s that’s a crafty move right there. Will you do that in tournaments? >> Uh, yeah. Yeah, we actually do that quite a lot. >> 29 from back here. >> 29. So, >> and it probably won’t take as much of like the right as it normally would, right? >> No, it’s just so soft, isn’t it? But yeah, I think that little 30-ish shot with this should be good. [clears throat] >> It’s a good shot. >> It’s a good shot. >> I think I’ll take it. >> You think it’s a little short? Maybe. >> Potentially. Potentially. I’ll take it. >> We kept our We kept our perfect record. We kept our perfect record. >> That’s huge. >> That’s huge. >> That’s awesome. What a what a fun uh what a fun thing this is in our game that we have. >> How concerned are you with Liverpool? >> Um yeah, you know, I think you know to my friends officially I raised my concerns before the season with >> just bringing in a bunch of new guys to a title team. >> Yeah, [snorts] exactly. >> Seems like the fullbacks are having a hard time. >> Lots of lots of changes, right? Um but uh I also know that Slot’s a world class coach, so he’ll figure it out. But yeah, you know, I think um maybe this this start of the season hasn’t been amazing. And I think the the Diego Jot incident not helping. I think it’s underrated. >> Not impact. >> I think it’s under underestimated how much that affects people. I saw an interview with Andy Robertson after Scotland qualified for the World Cup just the other day and instantly right after the match he starts talking about >> and no and that’s actually a really good point because like no one was talking about it [clears throat] right but it’s something that doesn’t just go away because the new because the new cycle moves on >> dude it’s your teammate it’s it’s your brother that literally played with you and not obviously not only he was an amazing player right he was a personality that everyone loved and all of a sudden he’s >> he’s not there anymore you know I brutal. >> I think that’s underestimated how much it affects. Um, so yeah, I uh little bit concerned, but ultimately, you know, I think for the the signings that we’ve made in the long run, it’s just going to take a little time to settle in. And >> so, I know you’re a young man, but some other golfers have gone in invested in some soccer teams. >> Yeah. >> Like JT, I think, right, Ricky? They’re involved with leads. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Would that ever be of interest to you? >> Um, I don’t think so at the moment. >> Too much work. >> Yeah. I think, you know, I only have one team in me and I don’t think uh my little, you know, help to Liverpool would affect that much, I think. >> No, I don’t mean Liverpool. I mean, you know, if like there was an opportunity to like invest in like a championship team, like would that be something that No, >> no, >> no. Fair enough. I mean, this course though during players week is like so pristine. >> Oh, it’s so pure. >> It’s perfect, right? >> It’s so pure. >> You never played it in May, though? No, Joe raves about it in May. >> He loved it in May. Yeah. >> Yeah. It was firm as hell. >> Bermuda jumpy. >> Fast greens. >> That was a good shot. >> Yeah. You know, I’ll take it. >> So soft. >> I know. Even that chippy n iron >> like that’s that’s where you’d want to draw up landing it. >> Exactly. Right. >> Yeah. >> Take like one hop forward and then come back. >> You think it’d be perfect? Yeah. >> It’s like they’re like spinning uphill. >> Yeah. So, >> I think it was a good call to go with the nine. >> Yeah, I like it. It >> was a little a little Rory shot, you know, the one that won the tournament this year. >> Yeah, it was windy then, wasn’t it? >> It was really windy. >> Were you here? >> I was here early in the week. Yeah, I wasn’t here on Sunday, but I was here early in the week. >> Yeah, >> that was Monday. That was Monday, though. >> Was that Oh, yeah, it was. It was Monday because the rain delay Monday deal. >> Forgot about that. No, I don’t stay much during the once the tournament starts. Oh, >> okay. >> I feel like when you guys are competing, you guys are competing. I don’t >> me asking you about your up and down on 13 is not really going to [laughter] >> move the needle much. You know what I’m saying? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I’d rather go early in the week, be able to actually talk. >> Yeah. >> Let you guys compete and then if I want to do something with you, you would do it like this. >> Yeah. Exactly. And you see us Monday next week, right? >> Right. Exactly. And it’s like when you guys are in a press conference, you go into press conference mode. >> Yeah. >> Which is natural. You’re up there on a stage, you know? This is more informal. >> Yep. I like it. >> You seeing 2% right here? >> Yeah. Just over 2%. Yeah. This one normally when it’s fast and firm just snaps. So, snaps right hard. >> Yeah. Stay up. Stay up. >> See, I didn’t hit it enough. >> I wanted it. >> It’s okay. Hey, it’s okay. Headstone drop. >> Headstone drop. >> Heads on drop. >> Oh [ __ ] man. >> You had it. >> Had it. >> All right. Well, >> finish with a birdie. >> What a great finishing hole, icon. >> Yeah. Yeah. Good. >> So, you went for the 3-wood pretty quickly here. >> Yeah. I just I just like the way it sets up for a 3-wood. Um, I normally like to turn it over a little bit. It gives me a pretty wideish fairway. Um, and uh, I feel like, you know, it’s a hole where you just have to take it on. Um, >> what we’re talking about earlier. >> Yeah. Exactly. Right. >> If you bail out in those trees, you’re going to have a higher scoring average than if you just try to, >> you know. >> Yeah. >> Should be good. I I loved it. We’ve taken some >> taken some lines today. >> We’ve taken some lines today. We’ve taken some lines today. >> We’ve also hit two in the water. >> Yeah. [laughter] Taking even par. We’re working. This is probably the hardest golf course we’ve done one of these at though. >> Is it? >> Actually, I don’t know, Alex. The one we were at with uh Keegan was pretty brutal. >> Where was that? >> Golf Club of New England. >> Okay. >> In New Hampshire. That’s where he spends his summers. >> It was just like like 3900 yards and like sobbing wet. Wow. It was just like a slo. >> Are you a uh are you into golf courses? Is that something that interests you? Yeah, I’m a little bit interested. I’m I’m not like a geek or anything. Um, but I do appreciate a good golf course now compared to a couple years ago. Um, I think just because we get I mean I think one of the best things about being a professional golfer is the golf courses that we play. >> Well, they’re always they get it perfect >> and they are so good and great shape, you know, strategy all. So, I think I’ve learned to appreciate that. Um, and uh, >> yeah, cuz you you didn’t even have to do the Witchah, Kansas, Boise, Idaho. >> No, you know, >> you didn’t even have to swim it out on the Cornferry tour. >> Slipped on a banana peel to get in here. >> Yeah. >> Um, but uh, but no, it’s been it’s been amazing. >> What’s your favorite on tour >> golf course? And you can’t say this one. >> Um, I like Memorial. Um, >> Mirfield. >> Yeah, >> it’s it’s sort of similar to here in front of you. you know where it’s like here you go like number three number 14 number you know like all those holes that are like dude it’s a four iron or a fivewood a decently wide fairway and you just have to hit it otherwise you’re in trouble and then you have a green that looks like this where a bunker long is effed and you have water short and you just there’s no real bailouts and I and I like that >> sounds to me like you like these real American style golf courses do you do you kind of prefer that over the links because it sounds like you like defined lines you want to know it’s It’s a pretty in front of you test. >> Yeah. I’m not a massive fan of blind shots. Not a massive fan of quirkiness, you know. Um I like >> You have to lie to yourself that week >> sometimes. >> Yeah. >> No, but an open is is different. I think it’s a different kind of game. And um you know, yeah, you might get some quirkiness, but there’s also completely different shots that you have to hit. So I I do like that part of it, too. >> Have you had some good opens? >> Uh well, I’ve played two. Yeah. um missed the cut at Trune and finished 20th or something this year. So, >> did you like Port Rush? >> Yeah, I thought it was cool. Yeah, that was really cool. >> Cool town, huh? >> Cool town. Um yeah, I think I think that was uh that one over TR. I would pick Port Rush. >> Yeah, Tron. The weather was horrendous. >> Oh yeah, it was windy as [ __ ] >> I remember that Saturday. >> So good at Port Rush though, wasn’t it? >> It was perfect. Yeah, it was hot. Yeah, it was nice. I did a trip to Ireland with my buddies the week before. >> Yeah. >> And we were there for seven days and we didn’t get rained on one time. Really? Which is like >> never happens. >> Doesn’t happen. >> Never happened. >> First round the catties were like, “This is the nicest it’s weather it’s been all year.” Yeah. >> And then it was just that six days in a row. It [laughter] was epic. >> A good Lynx course on a good day though. >> Hard to beat. >> Yeah. >> But I kind of like him though when there [clears throat] is a little bit of wind. Not like survival mode wind, >> but like a little bit of shaping shot. Yeah. That’s what this what the course is designed for. >> Yeah. You don’t want it to be like >> Yeah. When you get it when you get it and it’s calm, you almost feel guilty. You’re like, “Oo, I’m just >> I’m just point and shoot out here. >> You like to stop a little a couple behind it, man. >> I get excited. I don’t know. [laughter] Hadn’t thought about it.” But you’re right. I have been shooting it from like four yards behind all day. >> 141. >> Oh, it’s that number again, isn’t it? >> We’ve been right there all day. But you know what? I really want a birdie to finish under park. >> Okay. >> You like that plan? >> Yeah. But I think again I don’t think a nine’s is going to make it. >> It will probably It’s going to >> I think it’s going to land hole and then just rip. >> Yeah. So you’re going to hit a little >> It’s going to have to be a little eight. Yes. >> Off today. >> Similar shot to what I hit on on the last. >> Yeah, that’d be perfect. >> 40 hole. Keep turning. Come down a little bit. >> Yeah, it’s the right number. >> We’ll have a look at it. >> Pin high. >> So, you’ve had this incredible start to your career. Like incredible. As you know, you ever catch yourself being like, “Wow, like this this this happened fast or this is amazing.” like you know a couple years ago you were just college kid at Texas Tech. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I think yes and no. I think if you asked me a couple years ago if I could do it in terms of qualities and in terms of you know just based on the attributes that I have then yeah probably you know I say I’m able to do it but there’s always you know the learning curve of getting used to it’s a different lifestyle. It’s a different kind of way of living. And um I think that’s like we talked about earlier on number 10. I think that would be the thing that I’ve learned most this year is kind of get those puzzle pieces together that isn’t necessarily on the golf course, but try training schedule, practice schedule, how do you like to structure your off weeks? How do you >> It sounds like you made a change. Sounds like you made a change with your offseason schedule because you you play hero. You last year you said, “Okay, I want a little more time.” >> Yeah. So, um, so yeah, I think but I think also that’s the fun part about doing this is because you’re constantly learning. You’re constantly trying to figure out things and what’s working and what’s the best way to do things and um, yeah, I consider myself very fortunate to be able to do this. >> Do you love Do you love golf or do you love playing competitive golf? >> Uh, oh, good question. >> Thanks. >> Good question. >> Not a hobby. Um I mean I love competitive golf. Um but I also love just going out and playing. >> Yeah. Um >> with the boys and stuff. >> Yeah. I just find it so nice. Um >> but yeah, I do get a little bit sharper when it comes to a tournament than I’m at home most of the time. >> That’s the other thing I tell people when they’re like, “Oh, tell about the pros attitude.” It’s like, you know, most good players in competition or if their cameras around, they get nervous. You guys, it goes the other way. you block it. >> Yeah, I think so. I think I uh I don’t know. It’s just a little bit sharper. I think that’s the best way I can describe it. Um >> when there’s something on the line, >> that’s why, you know, you try to simulate as much as you can in your practice at home. Um >> like gify it sort of >> playing games. Yeah. Trying to get competitive matches in those things. I think that’s a big deal. Um but uh but yeah. >> All right. Let’s finish with a bang. >> Okay. Yeah, there we go. >> Listen, one red on the back nine at TPC is not that bad. >> Yeah, but it’s not amazing, is it? Perfect weather, perfect everything. >> Yeah, there wasn’t a lot of wind. >> It’s golf though, man. >> Yeah. >> Straight a little right to left in there. This would be nice to make though, wouldn’t it? It >> would be great. >> It would be fantastic. >> You got a good line on this one? I >> think so. Oh, you stayed. >> No way. >> I thought it was harded the whole way. >> No. >> God. >> Stressfree par. >> That was so much fun. I really, really enjoyed that. >> Thanks, Dan. >> Thank you so much for doing that. Yeah, I got to take the head off. like a proper guy. Well, thank you so much to TVC Soccers for having us. Thank you to Ludvik for doing this. >> Thank you very much. >> I ask everybody at the end of this series. How would you grade my caddy skills? >> I thought it was good. Yeah. I think next time you can get a little bit closer, get the yardage, maybe right where we’re hitting it. >> Stop uh stopping three yards before. >> Yeah. Um but no, I thought you did a good job. >> That was fun. >> Thank you so much everyone for watching. Hope you enjoyed another episode of On the Bag. Like and subscribe, [clears throat] all of that fun stuff. We’ll see you on the next one.

Ludvig Aberg walks you through every shot on the iconic back 9 at TPC Sawgrass with Dan Rapaport on the bag interviewing him the whole time.

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