These FORGED Clubs Could DESTROY The Biggest Brand In Golf!?
For the best part of 20 years, the best golf clubs in golf in the wedge category have been these, the titalist boki wedges. As you can see, I have the SM10s in the raw finish, and I absolutely love them. These things are so easy to use. They are so versatile. They do everything you want a club like this to do. But we are now in 2025 and we have some rather uh interesting alternatives. These are a full forge wedge. Now a lot of people do think that when you think Vokey oh they feel really soft so they must be a forge wedge. Vokei aren’t forgi are cast wedges whereas you can see here these alternatives from the guys at Vice. Not only they cheaper but they’re also a forged finish. So today we’re going to put them to the test against the Vokis and see just exactly which wedges you should be spending your money on in 2025. Guys, do me a favor, get in the comments below which wedges would you be spending your money on. You can see I even got green fererals on mine as well. I got them nicely kind of customized which you can do on the Vice website. These are just over £100, like £104 I think something like that. And you can see we also have like on the lob wedge a really really really nice full face groove. So, Vokei RRP is £169. I think you can get them a little bit cheaper than that. Now, I’ll scour the internet for you guys to see where you can get the best deals, but funny enough, these wedges were fitted to me by a genius. So, Marco, who is one of the lead designers behind the Vice Golf Clubs, and these wedges were fitted to me behind an ultimate genius, Bob Vokei. Bob Vokey fitted my Vocus for me in the SM8 range. And I’ve just kind of continued the trend on with the shafts and the specs and everything like that. I’ve changed one thing which we’ll get to in this video. But like can you get a better wedge fitting than Bob Vi? No. So Bob’s here. Bob’s on Bob’s on coms as well. Aren’t you Bob? For now. If he says anything, his views are his own and not mine. That’s all I’m going to say. Right. I’ve got 100 yards in here. Let’s clip a couple and see what kind of reaction we get. We’re in the the moist roof which I think is a really good place to test clubs like this. Ooh. Oh, I’ve struck that really nice. Soft. That felt absolutely fantastic. And that spun back quite nicely. Not going to lie, Bob, I don’t think I need to hit another Vokei cuz that felt phenomenal. One of the things I do like about the Vokis is you can get them in this raw finish. And I feel like is that like a tradition thing? Cuz when I had Vokis growing up, they were my dad’s castoffs to be honest. And then I had my brother’s castoffs and then I eventually got my own. And now I feel like these are the clubs that just do the business. Right, we’ll go gap wedge in the Vokei. So again, nice full face groove. It’s not got that lovely raw finish on, but does look really nice and with that forged finish. Look at that. Again, a nice soft feel. That’s all over the flag. And that one’s got plenty of spin generated on there as well. One of the things I do like about the vice wedges in particular is you have the ability to flight them up and flight them down. They’ve certainly thought about the CG locations in here, which is exactly the same as what the guys at Vokei and Titist have done. Can we one down with this one? Fly down with a least lofted club. And you can see we can play the shot we want to play there as well. So, let’s get down there and see what kind of reception we’ve got with these. But also, let’s test these vice wedges and Vokey wedges around the greens and see just potentially what you could be missing out on if you’re not game either of them. So, you can see some pretty good shots into this hole. The final shot we hit, which was lower, landed shorter and has kind of progressed out, which you would expect a lower shot to do. The shots where we sent them nice and high with the gap wedge there. You can see they’ve both landed just long and both pretty much stopped dead. So, quite happy with both of those results there. That’s going to be within tour average even with the slightly more budge orientated vice. I’m not going to say cheap because they’re not cheap, but they are cheaper than those. Speaking of the 56s, should we do some digging? B, digging is the wrong word, isn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. So, when it comes to the 56s, you can see two very, very similar looking clubs here. The Vice has got a slightly kind of shame bounce here, whereas the 56 and the Voke has just got that kind of 10 degree bounce best grind. There are so many options when it comes to bounce and grind in the voc. So that’s kind of well worth thinking about. Sometimes there could be too many options and that’s where unless you know exactly what kind of style of play you have and what kind of golf course you’re going to play, it might get a little bit confusing for you. But we’ll go I have no idea what to buy. You wouldn’t, would you? You’d have no clue. You just got my old ones. Yeah. So there’s that. Um, can you hold us that, Bob? And I’ll in fact, no, cuz you’ve got the camera in your hands and that’s insensitive of me, isn’t it? So we’ll go vice first. And one of the things, this is a typical shot where I’d play a 56 degree wedge. So, I like to kind of pop it up, get a bit of landing angle, not rely too much on spin. But I will say, just bring this in, Bob, and look at the cuz I was never a fan of full face grooves, but I feel like the guys here somehow have done it really, really, really well. Cuz Voki don’t even make a full face groove wedge, do they? No. Which I think they’ll have to eventually, but who made the first full face groove wedge? Was it Cleveland? I wouldn’t say it was Callaway because the Phil Mickelson wedge. Or maybe Ping. It was Ping because he used it, wasn’t it? Right. So, face slightly open. Just kind of released that out. I’ve thinned that a little bit, but it’s still done. Okay. Can we just get a nice popper? See, they are launching fairly low, those, aren’t they? And I don’t feel like I’m really really having the ability to pop it up too well with the vice. Now we look at Vokey and yes, if you wanted to pop it up high, you’d just go to the 60, which is what we’ll do in a bit, but certainly I feel like I’m maybe learning a bit about this chip and managing to pop them up. It’s funny, you know, because actually when you think about is it the bounce that’s working more? The bounce could be working well here, but I actually duffed that last Vokey one. Oh, so is the bounce kind of helping me a bit more with the vice? And funny enough, the vice feels really, really, really soft. Really interesting that with the 56, you do still have the element of versatility. So, I’ve got the Voker here, and with the slightly longer shot, you can see how you can play that really nice mid trajectory with a bit of spin even from the moist roof. will not that is that class as a shot. I I only tried to clean the club face. I bit the wrong ball. Right. And Vokei does offer offer you like that element of consistency. Can you see again there slightly lower flight but again plenty of spin on that ball to allow me to do what I want to do. So really happier. In fact much happier with these shots. That’s an Alex special that one. it was in a vokey wedge review. But we now move on to the vice. And the vice, it does sit a little bit more upright. So I can open this face up and be nice and attacking with it. And again, you can see how it’s pretty easy really to get that nice launching mid-flight. I think I’d have these a bit flatter actually, but certainly feel like I’m getting a bit more confidence with those full face grooves. Really happy with all of them apart from the thin one with the Vokei. And even here, opening the face up a bit more. Feel like I can really just play some nice controlled shots with both of these wedges. So when it comes to the lower end of the bag and my favorite clubs, the lob wedges, you can see quite a difference here in visuals in how they look. Obviously mine’s a wedge work 60° a K grind with that low bounce element. So one of the things that I love about this and this is you can see with some of the strikes. I should clean that, shouldn’t I? Really? But this is one of my favorite clubs not only of the year but ever because having the ability Oh, is it low bounce? Low bounce but a huge soul. Yeah. So, what that means is like you can really play lots of different shots. Now, as you can see Brett Cooper just there on the putting green with treble winner Jai. But whenever this club comes out, Brett knows he’s in trouble when we’re having a match because I do just feel like I can play lots and lots of different shots with this. I can play it high. I can bump it low. And I really feel as though it just gives me the confidence to play. See the spin on that? Yeah, play whatever shot I want to play. Now, that’s all good and well. That would be a little bit more because it’s a wedge works club. But as we go into the 60° of the vice, it does feel like it sits a bit more upright, but the full face grooves feel really good and I still feel like I can play that nice low bump and run. You can see that didn’t spin as much. It kind of released out a bit, but I feel like if you know what you’re doing with this, you can start to play lots and lots of different kind of grabby shots, lots and lots of nice different shots. And as we jump into the bunker, especially, this is where you can start to save yourself loads of shots cuz I’m well aware that a lot of golfers struggle out of bunkers and you want to make sure that you’ve got a club you feel comfortable with. So vice first, we’ll move them out the way. No collateral damage. You can see how I can play a really nice kind of spin. I mean that you’re not going to play a better bunker shot than that, are you? No. I do feel like with it sitting slightly more upright, I I have to open it more. But as long as you know that and you’re aware of that, it really doesn’t particularly bother me too much to the the loft is still pointing at the target. And you can see we can play some absolute beauties. Oh, how’s that gone in? How’s that not gone in? But I don’t know. I can get you the vokei out now and I can try and replicate those shots and hopefully we can play another nice one. But realistically, we’ve shown just how good a value those those vice wedges are, haven’t we? So, Vokey, that one was set up a little bit, so we’ll forgive ourselves slightly. But when it comes to it, guys, get in the comments below. What wedges are you using? What would you spend your money on? I’m a huge fan of these Rokies, but also a huge fan of the money you could potentially save. If you’re buying all three of these, you’re saving yourself the best part of £130, £140. So maybe you can put that money towards your membership, towards lessons, towards golf balls if you’re betting, you’re absolutely terrible and lose loads. Apart from that, guys, we’ll see you at the same time tomorrow. Goodbye. So, I tested both these wedges in the studio with the 56° trying to hit 100 yard shots to see what the difference in spin would be. Please ignore the lack of a screen because the projector broke and this is what we got. But we did manage to get the numbers. As you can see, the ball speed really doesn’t matter because that’s obviously my ability to gauge the distance. But they were very, very consistent. I managed to get around the 100 yard mark. And as you can see, even though it had less ball speed, the VO generated a slight bit more spin at 200 revs per minute more, resulting in a slightly closer to the 100 yard mark that we had targeted. Two fantastic wedges.

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Beautiful looking wedge and very well reviewed
Forged irons always bring that pure feel big brands can’t fake.
TBF though the vokeys aren't forged they are incredibly nice. I have Sm9's but agree that forged wedges are really nice. i have a set of Mizuno T22's and they feel amazing… Even £100 a wedge isn't that cheap though and i think if i was in the market i would get vokeys or another brand perhaps cheaper.
Got my eye on these, currently game the Costco Kirkland V2 wedges that are very good for the price, but in stock shafts they're a little short for me at 6 feet 2". I've bought a Vice 4 Hybrid and its awesome, the customisable options even down to grip size and tape is awesome.
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Top 10 wedges:
1. CLEVELAND
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All wedges of a similar design perform the same. My Kirkland wedges at $55 each play just as well as $200 a pop wedges. And I also own expensive wedges including Vokey's and can attest to this fact. Its all really a crock. About the only golf clubs where more expensive is superior to budget is with drivers and fairway woods.
Bought the Amazon Bermuda wedge set 52,56,60. $180 after tax. They spin like an mf’er. I pluses them 1/2” and changed the e grips.
Just my opinion, but it seems you’ve been become a shill for Vice.
Went from my old Vokey wedges, to having and open mind and testing every new 2025 OEM wedge (SM10, RTZ, RTC, MG4 and MG5, OPUS, T1, T3, S159, King Wedges, Staff ZM….) under the sun last summer. ….I now have a custom Faktor S20c forged wedges (50:10, 54:12, 58:08) with carbon graphite shafts and blue bell ferrules in the bag. Best wedges I've ever hit – just an amazing feel and fantastic spin on the green. Of all the buttery soft wedges I've hit, T3, T1, MG5, ZM, even the RTZ felt pretty good, the Faktor wedges were the butteriest of the creamy butters…
The face milling and leading edge grind Joel Moody put into the design of his wedges…Mwuah! 'chef's kiss'. Great leading edge grind with fantastic turf interaction. You can really lay the club down and open up the face if you need to hit a high soft flop – with all of his wedges. These wedges get through wet dewey thick green side rough beautifully, and the milling still puts a great spin on the ball. These wedges just inspire creative shots from all around the green.
Speaking of custom ferrules – Joel has an outstanding selection if that's your thing.
Every time I see Vice's club design, it's a fussy hot mess of lines.
Rtz all day
The Cleveland RTZ raw are a better wedge.
I have a hickory shafted wedge that’s over a hundred years old and it has full face grooves! So it’s nothing new or recent
Could be my eyes/brain/camera/whatever, but I thought I noticed the Vokeys generating more spin . . . a nice hop or two and then a bit of zip backwards or dead stop. The Vice appeared to perform well but not as pronounced spin. Either way, an interesting comparison and enjoyable vid.
I’ll probably look to get Cleveland CBZ wedges if and when I upgrade
I have tried all types of Wedges. All angles, bounces, you name it. Tried the Ping BunKr. For a new hip, it is perfect. I don’t have to twist
I know vokey's are the pinnacle of all wedges! But to be honest I don't like that raw rusty look on them,they look like they have come from a engineering company's skip! I ain't a snob but not a image I want in my bag! They just look like a pile of muck
Ping BunKr 64* , Ping G440 PW, UW, Cleveland SW, 7 iron bump and run
Ive just upgraded to the Cleveland wedges the full face zipcore tech is decent
Love my vice 50 degree it’s like butter off the face
Quite enjoying my Cleveland full face 2 😂
Bag the Vice wedges, you hit them better and you cant beat full face.
I am trying the PXG, but $$$
Not cheap but the best wedges are the PXG sugar daddy lll
I absolutely love my Skyforge 002's
It has been proven that rusted wedges off no additional grip. If you think about it, the rust could fill the scoring in the face and they are butt ugly. I was a Vokey fan but that was years ago. They “quietly” turned away from forged heads and others have come on board, specializing in wedges. I live the look of Vice and today, my favourite Wedges are Cleveland. The shape is much nicer and TODAY (given all the options) it makes so much difference. Titleist gets most of the attention but it doesn’t mean they are better. I could play a number of wedges today (Ping, Mizuno, Calaway, Cleavland, Vice and Titleist. It terms of performance, there is very little difference so it comes down to visual appeal. From that perspective, Cleavland is King…and Callaway a short second.
Always used Mizuno wedges. Great feel.
Mizuno's T1. Soft, spinnie, good in wet, and consistent. And in black with black shafts look GREAT!
Last year I played vokeys sm7s and I was happy with them. As I upgraded my irons to srixons zxi7s with kbs $ taper stiff 120s, I went to the cleveland rtz wedges (zxi7 gap 8 degrees, rtz full sole sand, and adapt grind in the lob) which are all great wedges. Absolutely no complaints what so ever. I decided for grins to build a second set of "practice" irons as a test for myself. Srixon zxi5s, kbs tour lite 105g stiff, but I went with a set of sm10 vokeys and the vokeys do not disappoint. 10f in the gap, 12d in the sand, and 08m in the lob and theyre perfect as im playing courses that are soft in the spring and fall and firmer in the summer. This set of vokeys gives me the versatility between the higher bounce sand and lower bounce lob to cover a lot of ground in the changing conditions.
Kirkland are an option. My hands are not cold and dead so I have a forged Gap wedge @ 50° from Gigagolf (DTC) modded with Stiff Shaft and bent 1° upright and a 'T' rusty 56 Cleveland RTX ITB.