The Incidents of Sergio Garcia | NLU Pod, Ep 1086

DJ and Soly debut a new pod idea as we look to profile some of the more unique characters in golf. First up, Sergio Garcia, and the numerous moments of bad boy behavior over the course of his career.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. Sie here, joined by my guy, Mr. DJ Pie. Dee, what are we getting into today? Oh gosh, Sally, good to be with you. We got a good one today. You know what? We uh we we do a lot of planning despite what people might think. We uh we we sit and we trying to plan out future episodes and we look back at past episodes. We’re coming off the heels of this this Joey Ferrari episode that we did, which if you hadn’t gone and listened to that, uh just kind of a real life Breaking Bad Walter White sort of situation that takes place in the world of elite amateur golf. And that got us kind of just joking on this call the other day about like, you know, who are the who are the bad boys of of pro golf? You know, is does go does golf have any bad boys? if you were, you know, starting a Bad Boys Hall of Fame, who would be some kind of first ballot guys on there? And we’re just kind of joking around about that. And and you honestly kind of took the ball and ran with uh with I don’t know if you’re making yourself the selection committee of the bad boys, but uh you kind of took the ball and ran with it. And I I’m not totally aware what you’ve prepared, but I’m I’m excited to hear it today. I feel like bad boy can be, you know, it can it can sound like a bit of a porative term, but I I would say we could apply this pretty loosely essentially like are you out there doing stuff right? Are you getting involved? Are you making some headlines? You got to be a good enough player for to people to notice any of this? Uh, you know, are you breaking the norms a little bit? There’s some like, you know, throughout if we do this is the first of many or the first of one of these series. I don’t know if we’re going to keep doing these things, but uh there’s some like I think we can all agree there’s some like legitimately bad stuff you can do. And there’s just like some golf etiquette you could break. And in in the case of today’s episode, golf etiquette you could break many many many many times. Uh so I don’t want to make everybody out, you know, if we call you a bad boy, it might be it might be a term of endearment. It depends on how it’s applied as well. I think there’s bad guys. There’s, you know, golf has some bad guys. Yeah, bad bad boy and a bad guy are different things. A bad boy is a different thing. This guy’s just kind of a bad boy, you know. I think that’s uh Dustin Johnson. Is he a bad boy? Yeah, I think he’s kind of a bad bad guy, you know. He might be for all we know, but we don’t know. That’s all we’re not we’re not accusing you of being a bad guy. We might accuse you of being a bad boy. Seemed like he has some bad boy tendencies, you know. Did I tell you for a long time I I used to call uh whenever I was hitting a draw, I would call it the bad boy of just like, you know, you’re not supposed to be doing this, man. You have like you’ve battled a hook your entire life. you finally got over it. You’re not supposed to dip your toe back into those waters. And TCO is really like that. Like, are you gonna Why don’t you hit him with the bad boy here? I know you’re not supposed to do it, but try to turn one over. Hit a little draw. That’s what we’re talking about, I guess, is is what I’m trying to say. Today’s bad boy, it can hit the bad boy as well. Uh, which is which is what led to some of the incidents. Okay. Some of the throwing of things that maybe shouldn’t have been thrown, but I was surprised at the volume of the incidents uh that we uncovered with today’s subject. Before we get there, I want to give a shout out to our friends uh at Roback. Fall Golf is here. You already know. Rowback, our go-to for polos, hoodies, joggers, pants, all of it. Best fit, best feel. Simple as that. I got the the new blue herring bone one that we actually have in our shop as well. Has the logo logo. 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Pants, hoodies, vest. Rowback has you covered. Thank you to them for supporting our content all year long. De, where would you like me to start? Uh well you should probably discuss who we’re talking about would be probably I don’t think we who comes to mind if I you mentioned Dustin Johnson but you know of our current generation who comes to mind and look I we’re going to throw this out lightly now but I think there is an official like induction process into being a bad boy that we need to discuss and I’m officially nominating this you can we can use today’s episode to conclude at the very end if you think this guy’s a bad boy. Well, I I know who we’re talking about, and that of course is Sergio Garcia, who is a character uh he’s been a character in the game of golf for as long as I can remember. truly first breaking onto the scene really and with uh the Madina stuff and the duel with Tiger Woods and then uh you know kind of being a guy that that like I said is it kind of the the the kid really like as long as we’re sticking with some of these naming conventions. I think Neil absolutely would have glossed him the kid when he first broke onto the scene and he’s one of those guys that’s just always been in our lives. I feel like from a golf perspective we’ve seen him grow up. Uh we’ve seen him have some learning moments. Uh I think whether all of those have stuck is is maybe a a conversation we can get into today. But yeah, just a guy that’s always been around and always making news and always just flushing the golf ball. Uh and yeah, I can’t wait to uh to relive some of these moments. I think I have I don’t know. I’m not going to give away the number of of incidents I’ve collected here, right? Right. And that’s what we’re going to cover first is just like what are the controversial moments of this guy’s career, of this guy’s life, professional life. Uh there’s been many questions over the years of his maturity. Obviously, he burst onto the scene at quite a young age. You know, some of this was frowned upon and he got a reputation very early on as being a bad boy. And you know, there was I feel like we had the fake out like eight different times that like, all right, Sergio’s matured now. All right, now he’s matured. All right, now he’s matured and it’s like, all right, well, turn around. Sergio’s apologizing for something else. Sometimes multiple times apologizing for uh for for, you know, incidents he’s had. We have incidents with referees. We have throwing of things. We have uh more incidents with referees, even more incidents with referees. Yet, none of it’s related to cheating in any way. Like, I don’t think there’s any, you know, c-word stuff that goes on in any of it. But he got some referees got in this guy’s way. uh sometimes of him chucking things actually uh as well. But I remembered most of these, but there are a couple I uncovered that I’m like, “Oh, yeah, I kind of either I didn’t know about that or I I’m surprised uh at this one from Sergio.” I feel like this is a good exercise in uh a lot of a lot of the very recent ones come to mind. I mean, I’m sure we’ll talk the the bunker in Saudi Arabia and I remember some of the uh you know, the the of course the the one at the dinner when he’s giving the the remarks like I’m sure we’re going to we’re going to get to that. But it is kind of one of those things where it’s like I I only have room kind of for like recency stuff in my brain. I feel like maybe that’s a social media thing or a way that the news cycle works these days or whatever. But a lot of these are kind of just lying dormant in cold storage that I’m sure I I have forgotten that I know about if that if that’s the right way to say it or forgotten what the details of it were. And that’s kind of what I had a good time kind of uncovering some of this. So if you allow me, I’ll get into the very first one. And I’m kind of surprised. Are we going in order of of severity or are we going in chronological? Chronological order. Um so it’s going to be kind of up to you whether you you want to call things uh you know severe or not. But I’ll build my own power rankings as we as we go. I guess I was a little surprised that the volume of incidents prior to like 2007. Um, did not get a a a and and listen, these things are always really scary to do because you’re terrified you’re going to leave something out or miss something obvious. If I miss something, please let us know in the comments. Please email me. I want I want, you know, to have a full list of this somehow or, you know, if there’s anything we forgot or or definitely left out uh that we can may a culpa later on, I would like to hear that. But uh again and some of these you remember this happening but you don’t remember where it was or what the details were but 1999 world match play uh I don’t know if I got the full explanation on this or exactly what happened but Sergio hits a very poor uh shot I believe on like the 15th hole of a match. No, that’s not right because it was earlier in the round because it’s Dewey. We’ll get there. He he hits a it’s a snap hook. hits a very bad shot and he gets visibly upset. Camera cuts away and as he’s like reaching down for his shoe and he like it’s not an easy reach like he has to untie his shoe. Yeah, I remember this. Takes it off and chucks it at an advertisement board. And I watch this back. It actually goes into the crowd. I didn’t remember that part. I thought it just like went to like bounded off the advertising board and came back. Goes into the crowd. his manager, Jose Martina, had to go retrieve it and throw it back into play. Like, there’s a lot of people around this T- box. Throws it back into play, gets on the ground. Sergio goes and kicks it and it narrowly misses the referee that’s crossing the T- box. Like, almost kicked a shoe at a referee. And of note of this, it is early in the morning, like it’s dewy out, and he’s just walking around in his sock on the T- box like very much, you know, like a wet English morning. very much like I don’t want to be walking around and he’s showing no regard for any of this. Just not in a hurry to put the shoe back on. I don’t know if he slipped. I don’t know if the shoe was actually to blame. But that was one of the first images we had of Sergio Garcia in 99 was just like, “Oh no, he’s blaming his shoe for this and going to make a massive public spectacle about this. It did not need to be uh this big of a deal. But this was again not going to be the last one from inside the ropes.” So he missed the advertisement board he was trying to trying to hit. So it cuts away. You don’t see him throw it, but like you you see him reach for it and it cuts away to catch the ball and it comes back and he’s got no shoe on. And there’s a lot of people around this T- box. Like it is not it’s not a sparse crowd out there. It’s not like one of those, oh man, only a couple people saw this. Like there’s a lot of people standing around there. I don’t know if he hit someone when he threw the shoe. Again, I don’t know why we’re throwing a shoe into the gallery uh to begin with. But again, another one of those things the the George W. Bush uh press, you know, briefing that that he had to dodge the shoe. You know, this was before that. I don’t know if this was inspiration for that coming, but um another thing we’re This would have been in the fall, right? World match play. So, this is after Madina and and you know, he’s kind of the darling of of the golf world. Correct. I don’t have the exact date on this one, but I believe it is in September. Also going to be doing a tracker on this uh for all the incidents. Did Sergio apologize? Will you apologize? The conclusion on this one is actually inconclusive. Could not find an api apology for this one. I did go through newspapers.com and search for everything. Sergio Garcia apologizes. I went through everything a lot in 2013 and we’ll get there, but uh I did not see an official apology uh for this incident from the 99 world match. Okay. So, if you’re if you were standing near that advertisement, almost got hit with the shoe, you think you deserve an apology, reach out to us and maybe we can help reach out to to Sergio or potentially his manager at that at that point. Classaction apology seeking. Uh, I think if you were near that near that T- box uh in 2000, this was a little bit of a minor one, but it it go it speaks to his relationships with referees over the years. Here’s what I’m going to say. Sorry. Before we get into this, since I know we’re going to have a lot to cover, I’m going to give that four out of 10 severity. Okay. Okay, that sounds about right. Well, in in terms of Sergio incidents, yes. But that’s not a Nobody else is throwing their shoe into the gallery. That would be Yeah. Yeah. Yes. You don’t see Peter Malady out there. That would be a 10 out of 10 for Peter Matt. You don’t You don’t On the Sergio scale, it is a four out of 10. knowing what’s coming. That’s that’s a lot of grading on a curve. At the 2000 Greg Norman Holden in Invitational in Sydney, Sergio is leading by two with a round to go when he’s told he has taken a wrong drop away from a sponsor’s sign. After this incident, he walked away and twice hit a tree with a club and then hit a buggy with it as well. I I do want to also shout out Joel Beal wrote a great piece in 2019 for Golf Digest that made accumulating a lot of this a lot easier. Uh Gary Vanickle wrote something for Golf.com as well that made it uh uh easy to accumulate this stuff. But Garcia would say after hopefully uh even with John Paramore’s rules and everything I will be able to win the tournament. Uh instead though he did lose a playoff to Australian teenager Aaron Battley uh in what was seen as a clear reference to Paramore commented somebody didn’t want me to win and he did it. Uh in terms of battling no not quick he was not quick to congratulate others during this time period which would also be a theme through the next decade. There was uh is there an apology here from Sergio on this one? No. But funny enough Greg Norman apologized to Sergio for improperly advising him on the drop. Turns out there was a local rule in play on relief from sponsor signs and he did not call for an official when he took this drop. Norman was there said yes that’s fine and it ended up like they they caught it. Somebody called it in I guess or somebody mentioned it to a rules official and Paramore had to run out into the fairway. Uh Sergio and Paramore not great friends it would not seem over the years. Uh also in Sydney Garcia was told he had broken the tour’s dress code by wearing a round neck shirt rather than one with a collar on. So, I didn’t that was apparently a rule in 2000 on the on the European tour potentially just trying to to grow the game out there. John Paramore, another we’ve mentioned him many times in the past, but another one of the good characters just kind of a guy that always seems to be at or always seemed to kind of be at the center of these. Always love seeing him pop up on my my TV screen. But yeah, that’s I could see that. I could see the frustration and therefore we’ll give him kind of a a three out of 10. I don’t know if you can be walking around just whacking golf carts with a club mid tournament. I don’t I don’t love that. And the comments the comments are are what turns people off more, I think, because yeah, somebody didn’t want me to win. It’s like, well, you I mean, you literally broke the rule. Like, it’s it’s spelled out and you and and Norman has some quotes in there as well of it is our it’s not the referee’s responsibility, it’s the players responsibility to know the rules. I didn’t know it like that’s where he apologized. He was almost like saying what Sergio should have said, which is like, “Yes, we are responsible for these rules and we should have known that and we made a mistake.” But again, Sergio, it comes down to somebody didn’t want me to win. It’s like, “No, you [ __ ] broke the rule, dude. Sorry.” Yeah, this one seems fairly harmless. Well, I think we we move on. We move on to 2002, the US Open at Beth Page. Listen, some of this is brought on by the fans, which listen, this is quite recent in a lot of our memories. We can kind of picture what a little bit of what this might look like. I didn’t hear anything out there like that. I’ve heard worse things at youth soccer games, but uh Sergio said they were yelling. I didn’t hear No, I didn’t hear any of that out there. I don’t know. You get the same thing when they go over for the British Open. Anyways, Sergio was mocked consistently for excessive waggles and slow play at the US Open. Was jeered by the fans. Hit the ball, Sergio. Hit the ball. But uh rain, this is from Gary Vansick’s article on golf.com. Rain was heavy during the 2002 US Open second round at Beth Page where Tiger Woods finished it before it got bad. Sergio would say, quote, “It would always seem like there’s one guy who’s lucky when he needs to be.” Greed Garcia, who caught the worst of it and claimed the USJ would have stopped play if Tiger had been on the course. Uh Sergio would have his chance to take down Tiger in the final round, but shot 74, finished six shots back. Sergio would say, “He did what uh Tiger did what he had to do, but he did it because I let him.” Sergio ma at one point made an obscene gesture to spectators, as you can imagine what that might be. It involved making a fist towards the air and raising one of his fingers. You know, again, after his comments uh of, you know, of if Tiger was out on the course, they would have called it. Do we have an apology from Sergio? Sound the alarm, Deej. We have our first official apology on the record. I think he he might have been right about that one. I don’t know if I I I would not apologize for this one. He should have apologized maybe for the other ones, but okay. Interesting. Garcia sought out Woods on Saturday, left a note of apology on his locker. Tiger said he didn’t see the note, but appreciated the gesture. They shook hands as they crossed paths to meet with the media. Garcia would say, “I was a little hot. I’m 22. Sometimes I may be my uh my worst opponent. I was trying to handle it the best way I could. Sometimes we say things we shouldn’t, but it’s hard to say the right things over and over. I’m trying. This might be a new matured Sergio, which it might be, DJ, because I got to fast forward five years until I have the next like notable real incident. Again, I’m sure I glossed over several things from 03 uh to ’06 and the tight time frame I had to research this one. And again, we got a lot to get through as we as it stands. I’m sure I missed some, but we’re we’re at Dural. Do you remember what happens in Dural in March of 2007? March of 2007. Dural. Well, I don’t want to spoil any future ones, but does this involve a cup? It does involve a cup. Yeah. Yeah. This is uh I believe Sergio’s spitting into uh the cup that his other competitors will will also be uh playing out of. Let’s clarify the language around that one. Okay. So, uh, he three putts the 13th green in the final round of the WGCA Championship at Dural and he’s seen on camera releasing fluid from his mouth into the cup. Okay. Uh, was this a thing? Did somebody like get mad that they were saying spit? Jimmy Roberts asked Sergio about it on camera after the round. Uh, he admits to doing it but said there’s nothing to it. I just missed that putt and wasn’t too happy. He said, I didn’t spit. I just let it go down. Sure, it’s no big deal. Uh as in like he didn’t like he didn’t hua it, but he just like let saliva drip out of his mouth into the cup. Just organic matter. Yeah, just release some organic matter. Jimmy Roberts presses him on it. Uh he should have macoted him. Really? Huh? Okay. He presses him on it saying like, “Hey, well, I mean, look, other players like have to remove their ball from the hole.” And Sergio said, “Oh, don’t worry. It did go in the middle and it wasn’t going to affect anybody else. Don’t worry. I noticed that. If not, I would have cleaned it.” Sure. So, he perfectly spit it into the little tiny hole that the pin goes into. And it, you know, didn’t would not have gotten on anyone else’s golf ball. This one’s tough. I’m gonna I’m gonna sound the alarm at maybe a five and a half out of 10. I feel like on Yeah, this is this one this one gets up there. Um Tim Benjamin, of course, would not comment on disciplinary actions, but would say he’s been a terrific addition. His record is blemishfree and I’m confident this is a one-off situation. I’m not sure uh I’m as confident in this having just done this exercise. I’m not sure even to this point if that was a justified statement, but uh it would not be the last incident we would have even that year from Sergio Garcia. So, is this a non-apology? There’s nothing to apologize for. There was no apology. There was no I mean Jimmy Roberts gave him a a great opportunity. He would say, “It’s no big deal. Uh don’t worry about it. It went in the middle.” Like, there was no I’m I’m sorry for doing this. Uh there was no no none that I saw that there was an official apology. God, I haven’t thought about that one in a while. Uh, I like the clarifying language. That’s that’s helpful. It didn’t spit. Uh, in 2007 at the Open Championship at Carni, uh, Sergio will go on to blame the bre blame the bad breaks he got rather than give credit to Padrick Harrington. Uh, his quote afterwards, I should write a book on how not to miss a shot in the playoff and shoot one over. It is tough mainly because I don’t feel like I did anything wrong. I didn’t miss a shot in the playoff and hit unbelievable putts, but they just didn’t go in. It’s the way it is. I guess it’s not news in my life. I’m playing against a lot of guys out there, more than the field. Um, this was just seen as not being gracious. There’s also some stories. 90% of tour players I feel like are saying that behind the scenes. I think he just said it on camera. Yeah, there was just a big like wo is me and like no credit to Podrick Harrington who won in the playoff. And there’s a lot of un it’s not really documented very well, but there was some very real t like the tension between Padrick Harrington and Sergio. I don’t know if it predates this event, but th those two were officially not friends as of the 2007 Open Championship for how Sergio acted in the playoff, things he said under his breath to Padrick during that playoff. And it this is not well documented. This is not something I have official sources on, but there are stories that float around out there about what happened between those two out there that day and and that being a driver and some tension in their relationship. So, not sure I could picture two more different people. Not that I I know of either of them at all, let alone well, but uh based on everything you you see and all the, you know, even their games, just everything. It’s just Yeah, I can’t think of two people that are much more different than those two. This is of course uh Sergio’s wearing the the canary yellow on this day. Is that right? I can’t remember if he I think he did wear the canary. I know he did an 06 at Hoy Lake. Oh, maybe that’s what I’m thinking of. I was going to say some of it might have been a little bit of a you know, wish I wasn’t wearing this [ __ ] shirt type of type of tension as well. He is wearing There’s some pictures of him in uh in all in like orange and red which does not look very good. Um, precursor to the Fireballs. Exactly. He had green No, he had green shirt, black pants on uh in the final round, I believe. But yeah, Tweety Bird was 06 Open Championship. Some quick ones here. Uh, I definitely did not catch all of these incidents, but uh, this was I included this one because it does uh, give a sign of what’s to come nine years after this, but the 2010 PGA Championship at Whistling Straits, he viciously attacked the edge of a bunker six times on the second hole in round two. I mean, the highlight is just, and again, everybody’s made, you know, a swipe at a bunker at a bad shot. You know, you kick the sand a little bit. You know, you can’t believe them [ __ ] sands in here. Six. I can’t tell you how funny six swings in a bunker looks and how like possessed it looks. And to be fair, rage might not have known he was in a bunker. It’s a fair point, you know? I think that would become pretty hot in the streets later that week. Uh maybe just I mean, it’s just had no idea I was in a bunker. How was I supposed to know? I think it was on the edge of the bunk. You can’t really see where the ball is, but I did see a funny news clip of of them uh them laughing and and mocking his uh his reaction to that one. um somewhat famous one in terms of making the highlight reels of all the things you’ve seen over Ser with Sergey over the years in 2011 in December I believe it was uh at a um European tour event in Thailand makes a bad swing on the par 38th hole and then just helicopters the offending club far into the lake in front of him. Uh would there be an apology for this one? None that I could find. Uh, that one I believe just goes into uh the lore of Sergio Garcia. That one, if I’m remembering right, like the one I always pictur. These two look very similar, don’t they? This is quick, though. Rory like hits it in the water, takes, you know, he’s walking down the fairway and then chucks it. This is like Yeah. Yeah. That’s uh I I have no problem with uh with throwing it into the water. I think we just can’t be throwing it into uh, you know, throwing your shoe into the crowds and smashing carts and uh, doing all that kind of stuff. Yeah, this is somewhat tongue and cheek. I Yeah, don’t throw your clubs. Can I can I say on a on a serious note, there’s a couple people I’ve played with that have thrown clubs and I’m truly just like, dog, we’re we’re good here like forever. I don’t need to I don’t need to do that anymore. I don’t know if you have a strong visceral reaction to it. I’m like h I’m trying to think of my last club throw. I’ve definitely done it. I’ve done certainly you’re right. I’ I’ve I’ve totally done it as well. I’m not trying to be holier than thou, but I think as a you know 37y old man, I’m now like the stakes aren’t that high, man. You we can avoid throwing the clubs. I think my last one was 2020 in Oregon and I saw it on film and I was like, “Oh, dude, that ain’t it.” We were getting biker ganged and I was super stressed and it was abandoned crossings. Abandoned crossings. I chucked it I chucked it into the ground at least. But it was like we don’t we definitely don’t need to be doing that anymore. Uh Randy and Neil still contend that they did not play slow that day. I I would sure they do. I would uh yeah harshly disagree. I I remember the tension there as well. We have time codes on on on the clips of all those film clips if we need to go review it. Yeah, it Yeah. Again, on the Sergio scale, not that bad. I don’t know if we’re still grading these, but that this one, you know. Yeah. What would you give this one? Uh, two out of 10. Okay. God, this this curve, I guess we’re saving we’re saving for some. Yeah, I know what the 10 is, so it’s kind of hard to, you know. Yeah, it was 20% as bad as that. Uh I didn’t remember this one but uh again this one was from Gary Vincle 2012 US Open at Olympic club when his seven iron shot came up short of the third green Garcia swung the club in anger so hard at the ground that it chopped an ESPN T-box microphone in half. Sick. According to Golf Central Daily sent a blast measuring 225 dB through the headphones of soundman Marty Bunkham who was listening to in the broadcast. It’s like the FBI meme. And again, the article says Sergio Bogey the hole in the quote. I don’t know if this is if this was actually what was said, but uh the guy that heard heard the 225 dust bowl like what? Speak up. My ears are still ringing. What’ you say C3PO was doing with a poll? Oh my gosh. That’s uh what a what a stray for our guy Marty. That’s really tough. Just listening so hard trying to trying to find anything interesting or making sure the levels are right. Just get completely blindsided. That’s I can’t believe he went right through. That’s like one of those uh you know somalier that like can use the saber to uh to go right through the bottle. And now we get to 2013 in May. Um this is the the players championship. Uh this is the first first in first of the incidents that was I believe covered by uh the no laying it up uh Twitter account at the time. Is this uh on number two? This is on number two. I’m standing right there. Tiger’s getting ready to go for the green, right? Is that what we’re talking about? Sergio um is on the opposite side of the fairway as Tiger. Tiger had to move a bunch of people out of the crowd. And Sergio would allege that Tiger pulled his club. a fairway wood of some kind right as Sergio’s getting ready to hit. Um, he said he was holding holding up like Bryson at Whistling Straits, showed it to everybody, getting them all all lthered up. It was like a maxi golf scene over there on the left. And Sergio said he moved all the crowd that he needed to move. I waited for that. I wouldn’t say that he didn’t see that I was ready, but you do have to have a feel when the other guy is going to hit. And right as I was at the top of my back swing, I think he must have pulled like a fivewood or a 3-wood. And obviously everybody started screaming. So that didn’t help very much. But it was unfortunate because I mean I might have hit it in there if nothing uh hit it in there if nothing happens. You never know. But if I hit a good shot there and maybe make birdie, it gets my day started in a different way. Woods speaking after the third round was suspended due to darkness disagreed with s with Garcia’s assessment. Obviously he doesn’t know all the facts. The marshals told me it’d already hit. I pulled the club and played my shot. Then I hear his comments afterward, not really surprising, he’s complaining about something. Uh, which then, not to sidebar, then there was a whole thing of like the Marshall came out and was like, “We never told Tiger that he had already hit his shot.” And then it was like, “Did Tiger lie about what the marshals had said?” Uh, not sure if that was important there. But, uh, when told that Wood said that, Garcia responded, “That’s fine. At least I’m true to myself. I know what I’m doing, and he can do whatever he wants.” Yeah. Just a a kind of weird one. I can’t really imagine being tiger and uh having to worry about what’s going to happen when I pull my fivewood out of my bag. Like that’s I I think guys worrying about a lot already. I don’t know if you can really put that one uh I don’t know if you can really put that one on him. Yeah. Which again, not that bad of an incident, but it leads to an incident just 10 days later. Um, when asked a joking question at the 2013 European Tour Awards dinner, if he’d invite Tiger to dinner during the US Open the following month, Garcia said in justest, “We will have him round every night. We will serve fried chicken.” Does Sergio Garcia apologize for these comments? I got to think we get an apology for this one. I think this is probably the the 10 out of 10 uh here on the uh offensive scale. And yeah, I I I think I remember him backing off this one pretty quickly. Not only that, DJ, this headline really got me. Uh, Sergio Garcia issues second apology. This was a double apology incident. To Sergio’s credit, there was a lot of regret in this one. Uh, he said, “I apologize for any offense I may have caused by my comment on stage during the European Tour Players Awards dinner. I answered a question that was clearly made towards me as a joke with a silly remark, but in no way was the comment meant in a racist manner. Uh Garcia would later say about Tiger, he called me he he called me a whiner. He’s probably right, but that’s probably the first thing he’s told you guys uh in 15 years. That’s true. Uh Tiger would say uh the comment that wasn’t uh that was made wasn’t silly. It was wrong, hurtful, and clearly inappropriate. I’m confident there’s real regret that the remark was made. The players ended two weeks ago, and it’s time to it’s long time past to move on and talk about golf. So that came came later. So, but earlier after Sergio had issued the statement on that Tuesday night, he met with media on Wednesday after his proAM round at Wentworth, the site of the European Tours flagship event that week. Uh, and he said, “I want to apologize to Tiger and anybody that could have offended. I feel sick about it. I’m truly truly sorry, and I hope we can kind of settle things down and hopefully move on.” Uh, he gave several other comments of like, “My skin was crawling as I was walking out of there.” He knew he had made a mistake. This one was really bad, Dee, but it does. There’s a ton of contrition and there is like at least a little bit I know he’s been in these states for almost 15 years now at this point playing golf. A little bit of English second language potentially area of forgiveness there like I I I I don’t know. It was a really tough incident obviously and tough one to relive, but it’s there’s a so much of what makes Sergio frustrating is a bunch of this like bad boy behavior that he has no regret for. And so like I guess I view this one just with a little bit of remorse of like, dude, I don’t you can’t say that. You absolutely can’t. But I I I at least get where he’s coming from. like that came out and I was joking and wow, you write that down and that sounds way different than what I meant and it’s my second language. I’m bending over backwards to apologize for him here. But tough tough scene. Yeah, this one I think we you know he he went through it when it happened and I think continues to probably feel pretty pretty horrible about that one and 12 years ago uh or whatever it was. So it’s yeah unfortunate, regrettable, all of all of those things. Uh just a tough one when it’s like man there’s a very very very very very famous incident uh very very very famous cautionary tale uh just saying the same words and yeah that’s just that’s tough but I think that also is what just pours even more gas on it at the time. So, which I think like again if I’m bending over backwards to explain his joke was like maybe he’s joking about the fact that Fuzzy famously sure made a very racist comment about a champions dinner. You know what I mean? Like it it’s hard to say without being in that room. But again, you just don’t you don’t say that. That’s you’re not you’re not doing that, dude. We’re not we’re not doing that. You don’t do that. You just don’t do that. You just don’t do that. So, again, later in 2017, he This one just made me laugh. He angrily clocked a gorse bush that inhibited his swing during the 2017 Open Championship at Royal Burkdale and hurt his shoulder in the process. Required medical attention. Uh but he did play on. I did not catch an apology for that one. Uh but uh just him angrily swinging at Gors and hurting himself was an entertaining image. We had a pretty good stretch there from 2013 to 2017 during the the speed golden era. you know, it was all no no real uh incidents. Yeah. And we’re going to pick things back up here because it kind of finishes with a little bit of a of a flurry here. In March of 2018, he kicked and damaged a metal side panel of the scores hut after three putting the last hole of the day. This is at the Valbar. Uh this was not witnessed by the tour and no fine, though it did quote impress his playing partner Russell Knox. Uh, so must have been a very serious kick uh after the 72nd hole of the Valpar. Russell Knox rules. That’s just as an aside. Always always was a fan of him popping up on the leaderboards. Uh, we have another driver throw. This is in 2018 in April. Uh, some frustration at the Valero Texas Open. Uh, some very funny images here on screen as well of him having to go look for it in the bushes afterwards as well. Who threw was it who threw a did Rory throw a club into a tree and have to retrieve it? Who had the somewhat recent incident of throwing a club into a tree? And I’m hoping it wasn’t Sergio joke cuz it’s not on my list. That sounds familiar. Yeah, I’d have to look it up. But the the this is a good one on on the screen like you said from Dan Rapport and the the four-part like this one I he shouldn’t have to apologize because the act of having to go into the bushes and on camera retrieve your own club after you just angrily threw it I think is is punishment enough. Um and then we get to 2019. Busy year for our guy. Okay. Um he’s you know now 2017 he obviously wins the Masters and you know we kind of to your point I’m like yeah quiet little run there between 2013 and 2017 I remember it feeling like and I think we even said on the pod like man this feels different for Sergio. I’m actually happy that he won this like he you know he’s obviously had some ups and downs but he’s matured now. He’s totally matured. The young Spaniard has become you know he’s engaged now and he’s going to become a he would become a father shortly after that and and whatever. It doesn’t last that long. Sergio in February of 2019 was disqualified from the Saudi International for intentionally damaging multiple greens. Uh this was how long ago? Yeah, this was in 2019. Uh Martin Dempster tweeted just been out to the sixth green at Royal Greens. Uh and this was the only sign of damage on otherwise uh pristine green. This probably did look quite nasty immediately after Sergio apparently left this divot mark yesterday. And it’s like it looks like somebody it’s like a a day or two old divot that somebody hit like an iron shot out of that he did to the green and uh was disqualified for damaging five of the greens. There’s the famous incident as well from that video from that of him just absolutely going to town on one of the bunkers. one of the alleged quotes uh which I will not say out loud because I don’t believe that’s ever made it into print even though a lot of people know the story uh he said something very very offensive about what he thought the uh maintenance crew tournament organizers should do uh about either the greens or the bunkers. I forget which one it was about but it was uh quite disturbing. Yeah, it’s probably nine out of 10. 10 out of 10 depending on the veracity of uh of the quotes. Yeah. Would Sergio apologize? I hope so. Man, this was a tough one. Yes, he would apologize. All right. He said, “I respect the decision of my disqualification. In frustration, I damaged a couple of greens for which I apologize and I’ve informed my fellow players that it will never happen again.” Uh, this from Doug Ferguson. and Sergio apologized in a statement and in person to the players in his group. He apologized in a social media post and in an interview at his locker Wednesday at Riviera. So, this was the next time we saw him was at Riviera uh for the Genesis. He would say, “My job is to make sure I deal with this in the best way possible and show them that I can grow, that I can move forward, and I can be who I am in the right way. I want to face my mistakes head on. My job is to go out there and enjoy my game and show everyone that no matter what, I can be the best behaved guy in the classroom. I just hope I can maintain their respect. We’ll see. Keep We’ll see. Keep cooking down the list. The next month, uh, in 2019 at March, there is a match play dispute with Do you remember who? Do you remember this incident? This is now six years ago. Oh my gosh. Uh, oh. I do not remember who it was. Give me a hint. You definitely do. It was not this guy. This guy was in some other controversies uh about Caddy’s uh you know during this time. No, it’s not Keegan. You’re thinking obviously the fight with Miguel Anel Mendes. Uh this is with Cooch. Oh, Coocher. Oh my god. Of course. They took the stupid photo afterward. Video video. Uh, so Sergio has a putt to win in their quarterfinal match, win a hole somewhat early on in the round and he it’s like an eightoot putt and he misses it. Uh, and Garcia goes like misses it, goes after it pretty quickly and has a chance, you know, goes to tap it in from less than a foot away, but missed and picked up the ball before Coocher had a chance to concede. If you watch it back, it’s like Matt might have had a chance to concede there, right? Or it might have been quite obviously implied that he would give him a extremely short putt. Like this is like a a tap-in putt and but Coocher brings it up of like, hey, to that goes to the rules official, not the Sergio, like hey, I didn’t technically concede that. Like what happens? And then once he’s done that, the referee rules like like there’s no like Coocher wins the hole. Like that that’s done. That’s a done deal. You’re no longer in in charge of this. It sounds like one of those fake very fake question by the way. Yeah. Like Yeah. What what do we do? He could have just gone and not said anything. Call it. But I was just curious what the rule is. Uh it’s like well okay now we got to call it. Uh Cooer took a two-up lead. Um and then so Cooer would say like I didn’t I said I didn’t want that to be how a whole was won or lost. like cooch just kind of being like yeah man that’s not what my you know it was up to me man but my boss just made me made me call it and Sergio replies like well you can concede a hole then like concede a hole back and co like well I I didn’t say that like you uh I you know all I said was I didn’t want a hole to be won or lost that way I’m not going to concede it back I just said it was it was unfortunate you know they had this big dust up and then you know will Sergio apologized for this kind of uh in the video he’d be like, you know, it’s all good. We’re all good. No shade needs to be thrown. And Cooer would say, there’s no no shade needs to be thrown in that direction. He came up straight away and said, I messed that up. Uh Sergio’s caption on the post big. It was nice to run into Matt Cooer at Austin Golf Club today. A lot has been said about Saturday and most has been misconstrued. We’re all good here. Nothing but respect for each other, and it’s time to move on. this video would be mocked wildly on the social media channels uh for the forced nature of this quote somewhat of an apology from uh from Cooer as well. This was kind of the golden era of these types of videos, right? I mean, this was uh we had the Brooks and Dustin Johnson player of the year uh video if you remember that rap that was coming home with me. That was uh what was that in reference to? Like that there was a fight on the RDER Cup plane or something that they beat. Yeah. They had some sort of some sort of uh beef going on and PJ tour posted a video of them standing next to each other just basically to say like it’s all good this one’s fine. No, it was like I can’t we can’t let this thing come in between us and it was like the frame but the trophy was in between them and I was like that’s fine. This bad boy is coming home with me and it was just oh it was hor that was a dark age of PGA tour content but um yeah we they were just lobbing it up to us. Everybody was just lobbing up content to us in this time. And Cooer would say in the video, “We are going over what happened with our match in the aftermath. What’s gone on in the aftermath is just incorrect, wrong, shouldn’t have happened. I want to tell you, Sergio, you handled the thing extremely well.” Uh again, in this kind of forced, best behaved kid in the class, just go forward a couple months in 2019 still at the uh Open Championship at Port Rush. It’s the fifth T on Sunday. It’s wet out there. It looks miserable. Sergio te’s off. We can’t see where the ball goes, but it, you know, it’s clearly not a good shot. He’s the last one in his group to tee off. He’s walking, shoulders sagging. It’s just, you know, brain on the lens. It’s miserable out there. His caddy, who is his brother, is walking behind him to the right and like there’s a blurry video of this, but like Sergio just throws his driver and hits his caddy. like throws it at his caddy like tosses it to him slash not really like a hey catch man it’s kind of like a disgusted again he didn’t like overhand it at his caddy but like threw it in disgust and hits the caddy the crowd just and it like stops his brother in his tracks kind of like a man [ __ ] you like that was that was not cool does Sergio apologize uh I hope so couldn’t find one there was one maybe privately brothers you know uh gosh I don’t I didn’t remember that one that one yeah that was memory hold um famously the uh the the tour goes from Port Rush to Memphis uh the very next week to swing uh Sergio would uh gouge a T- box in frustration that’s what I remember I I’m screenshotting this one here just of like just classic Sergio position. I mean, look how much lag he got into this one. Pulling the power chain there. You can just see it. Some good action uh in this one. Sergio kind of lays low for a little while and we get up to to 2022 now. Wells Fargo Championship in May. And I kind of I feel for Sergio a little bit on this one. Not what he says, but like he gets royally screwed on a ruling. Long story short, there’s controversies. He’s looking for a ball. This is Wells Fargo year. Um where they were at Avanel, I think, were they? Or um they’re at a different golf course. They’re not at They’re not at Quail Hollow. He hits it left of a stream and like before he can get over the stream to like look for it, the PJ tour rules official who happened to be there starts the clock and as in they’re as if they’re looking for the ball and he’s got to get up to this rock bed to be able to cross the stream cuz somebody points out that that’s where his ball is. He gets ready to hit it like oh just found it just in the nick of time. Rules official comes out of nowhere to say no that was four minutes and like didn’t stop him at 3 minutes but like let him go all the way that way. We’re trying to grow the game out here, man. It’s all right. And DJ Tour live picks up this entire conversation and Serious, you want me to swim through the river? Like, I wasn’t looking for the ball there. I was looking for the ball once I got over to this side. Like, does that make sense? Like, I knew it was on this side of the river. And you can’t really hear what the rules official says, but like Sergio says, “So, you’re saying it took too long?” And then just kind of gives the rules official one of those like waves a hand at him like, “Man, [ __ ] you.” And he pauses for a little bit and goes, “I cannot wait to leave this tour.” like, “Oh, I cannot wait to get out of here. Just a couple more weeks till I don’t have to deal with you anymore.” Uh, which is of course in reference to him. This was a big deal at the time because it was kind of like this rumored league like who’s going saying the quiet part out loud very loudly. Yeah, we we we knew Sergio was going prior to that and we definitely knew he was going uh at this point. He now says uh I’m going to play slow now. Okay. uh and to his caddy and striped an iron for a layup and then just proceeds to berate the official. He’s like, “That’s [ __ ] That is absolute [ __ ] I mean, I’m I’m a minute and a half over time and you don’t tell me.” Again, he’s right here. Uh I agree with his frustration at the rules official. Just the bad boy activity is the I can’t wait to leave this tour that I’ve made $48 million on. And this was uh yeah, this this really should have been where Charlie Hoffman stepped in. said, “This is why all these players are leaving this tour, you know, because some of these hazards are mismarked. Uh, you know, we just can’t be doing this.” A month later, uh, he would resign from the PGA Tour to join LiveGolf, which promoted suspension from PGA Tour, uh, events. After that, uh, in September of 2022, he would withdraw from the BMW Championship after round one without explanation. Uh, he would later be fined for that. Uh, if you remember Queen Elizabeth’s death, postponed the second round. So, Sergio, who shot 76, withdrew without explanation. Do you remember what happened next? Uh, I don’t think I do. He was next seen posing for photos at the Alabama Texas football game. Big text. Yeah. Across the ocean in Austin. Uh he also this in he had wasted a spot that could have gone to first alternate Alfredo Garcia Heredia who was a rising young player battling to keep his tour tour status was a close friend of Garcia’s favorite Rder Cup partner John Rom. Uh and then in May 2023 he officially resigned his DP World Tour membership amid the sanctions for the Live Golf participation. A couple honorable mentions. Uh there’s a clip I couldn’t really place it. This was at Crooked Stick. I believe this was a playoff event in 2012 if I remember right. I was there. He broke a putter um in that one and intentionally broke it um in the fourth hole at TPC Boston in 2017. Uh he broke a putter after a bad putt from off the green on that drivable par4. He he his lag went to like 13 feet, goes up a slope, comes back down, he then breaks the putter, then proceeds to make the 13oot birdie putt with his three-wood. That’s sick. Um always like that somebody can do that. Um d that is 50 minutes on straight on incidents from Sergio Garcia. I’m still afraid to ask this question. Is there anything I left out that comes to mind? I’m shocked that you didn’t have the uh Oh no, the locker room thing. Like the locker room thing where he’s just berating like this tour’s [ __ ] all of that stuff. Oh my god. See, there it is. You know, I can’t you guys are all left behind on this tour and yada yada yada. That’s uh I mean that’s a biggie, right? That is a big one. Uh that is a miss. This is uh just googling this to find the date on this. Uh but Sergio flew off the quote. Sergio flew off the handle shouting this tour is [ __ ] You’re all [ __ ] You should have taken the Saudi money. Uh that I believe was sometime around in the uh as in 2020 early 20 July 2022 went on that about the ruling uh you know the bad ruling time. Yeah. Listen that that one should have been wrapped up in there. This is why I I’m terrified to do these things and I I had a day to research this and I did not have a week and there’s just like a virtual guarantee that you forgot something that you’re going to be very frustrated in. But that one’s that one’s a massive one. It’s tough. Yeah, it’s all of this all of this notwithstanding still still do miss watching Sergio and like week to week and having him involved. You know, as much as he can he can be pretty petulant and all of these incidents, uh certainly speak to that. It’s it’s also just, you know, we said it a million times, it’s kind of the people that bring a little bit of the the spice to all these golf tournaments that you’re interested to tune in and watch. So, it has still been a massive net negative. I feel like not having them really involved from week to week, but there’s I would say many many more of these than not that still leave a pretty bad taste in your mouth. There were and like we like we highlighted there were always there were always signs that it was turning around and there’s you know now he’s a father, now he’s this and now that he’s one of the masters does it, you know, potentially go a little bit differently and he proved to us many times over and over that he just cannot help himself. Yeah. And and I think what’s it doesn’t fit into the same conversation, but the stuff that doesn’t get included is, you know, I remember like um the players when like when he he was in the playoff with Ricky and he’s battling, you know, he has like you could do a whole episode on him at the players and Jacksonville fans and him hitting in the water and him responding and him making birdies and like him winning the tournament and him losing in a playoff and all of the stuff he’s had at the players has just made him like such a fascinating fasating character at that golf tournament. You mentioned the Masters, like watching that break through, all the other close calls at the majors. It’s just I don’t know, man. He’s just such a he’s such a necessary character in in my uh experience with the game of golf. And I’m I’m just thankful for his career even though there’s been a lot of blemishes uh along the way. I know we know of him as a Ryder Cup great, but like I think the answer to this question that I’m going to quiz you on is going to again kind of highlight that the level I’m kind of giving away that it’s big, but like what what is Sergio Garcia’s Rder Cup record? What do you think it is? Uh just come up wins, losses, ties off the cuff. Trying to like he’s probably estimate played in what the 10 of them something like that. Played in nine. played a nine. So for I I’ll say he’s 20 20 n and three in Rder Cup matches. I don’t know. You’re 29 and three. Holy crap. He’s 253 and seven. Oh, I was saying 20 wins, nine losses, three ties. So that was actually pretty close. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah, you were. Sorry. I thought you were saying he’s 29 wins, three losses. That would be not That would be notable. 253 and seven, a total of 28 and a half points, the most in Rder Cup history. Gosh. Yeah, they don’t really just hand those titles out. That takes a while to earn. And again, this isn’t about his playing pedigree or his accomplishments or the level of golf he’s played over over a quarter quarter of a century. It’s it’s purely the uh the character character issues that that have come about, the many con uh you know, many controversies and incidents. some other from quotes from other players that I picked up randomly about there. Kepta has weighed in at times. You know, he said, “It’s frustrating to see a player act like that to disrespect everybody.” An anonymous player, the Daily Telegraph had quote. It says, “We are starting to wonder what Sergio has to do to to get a couple of involuntary weeks off.” Uh Bob Estus opined on Twitter that Garcia should be suspended for his continued misconduct. So made some enemies uh along the way in in in his many years of playing professional golf as well. Um, but you know, has also like again I was just in some of the research like has in some of the later times was super congratulatory to Justin Rose after the 2017 Masters and showed some like, you know, kind of sympathy and contrition, I guess, if you will, towards the guy that finished runner up in recognition of that when he was, you know, he was not the source, not the best loser himself, uh, but recognized probably what Justin Rose was was going through in that time. And I left out a bunch of stuff that was just kind of like there’s a lot more sore loser activity that than he had. If you remember 99 he cried uh at the open championship and and kind of refused to talk to media uh at that point. Sergio also has started a foundation as well that helps underprivileged children through golf and social inclusion programs. And you know it seems like Sergio and Tiger somewhat get along now. I know that I just bludgeoned Tweety Bird in ‘ 06. uh that didn’t make the list here really because that was more about Tiger Tiger beating him, but uh those two really really really did not like each other for a long time. And if I remember, I didn’t Tiger congratulate Sergio when uh like publicly when he won the Masters in 2017. I I think I remember that being like somewhat somewhat of a of a big deal. it. The other thing I think I would put uh just worth mentioning I guess is I was trying to think of comps to other sports and you know whatever and I feel like a lot of what you just went through there is stuff that happened between the ropes. You know there’s obviously the the European Awards dinner like the fried chicken thing is an example of something that was not but it’s not like we’re I don’t think you have to dig I I can’t think of a ton in his personal life you know. It’s not like he’s he’s doing uh he’s getting arrested or doing all that other kind of, you know, like things that you see from other athletes. I guess just kind of keeping it in scale. A lot of this stuff is like stuff that’s happening on the field of play. It’s not like it’s stuff that’s away from away from the game. And you you know what I’m getting at? It is a little different a little different scale than like looking at a lot of other athletes. It is. But that also kind of just like makes it laid even more bare, right? Like I I was what I’m getting at is like I was talking to somebody about uh baseball the other day and they were like what I love about baseball in a weird way is like I don’t know anything about these guys off the field, you know, like it and they were kind of saying it a little tongue and cheek, but it’s like the NBA and you see this now with like the the whole, you know, gambling uh thing that just happened this past week, but it’s like there’s so much drama around who’s demanding a trade and who wants this contract and who’s doing this and who can’t play with who and yada yada yada. He’s like, “Man, I sit and watch baseball every night. I have no idea where any of these guys are even from, you know, I just watch him I watch him throw a splitter and I’m like, man, hell yeah, that’s great.” Then I turn off the game and I I move on. And I was like thinking about this through that lens. And I part of me is almost like, man, I feel like I don’t even really know that much about Sergio off uh like away from the golf course, which is crazy for somebody who’s so present other than his love for UT. Uh but that’s crazy for somebody who’s so present in you know golf for the last 25 years. But uh at the same time I’m like well no this would be like a baseball player who’s just constantly breaking bats or yelling at fans or do I’m like no those guys do exist too and they’re they’re pretty universally uh you know shhat on. So it’s it’s a uh yeah he’s just he’s complicated guy but a necessary complication I think. Well, and it’s it’s it’s not like again, he wasn’t doing horrible things, but at the same time, he wasn’t these aren’t like h stodgy golf tradition and Sergio’s just like bucking the norm. It was like, dude, like no, just don’t do that. Like, you should not nobody this is not likable behavior. This is not this is not it. Very avoidable stuff. very very but it also just I feel like it can land on us being treat I feel like even in this we’ve treated him with a little bit of kid gloves just because like he operates on his own scale of like yeah I don’t know throwing a club at hitting his brother that’s not that big of a deal but like imagine if imagine if Rory threw a club at Harry Diamond and hit him like that would be that would make headlines for like a month he would have to speak on it like multiple times probably and it just becomes oh that’s Sergio being Sergio uh and I don’t know I feel like golf has want to forgive people. I mean, we’re thankful for like the, you know, the intrigue intrigue he’s brought to the sport. Like, he’s just an interesting person to cover and talk about and and when he’s involved in in the golf, you know, something’s going to happen. It always always did. Yeah, that that it does. And he just and again, I left out there’s just so many just whiny comments he made over the years. Just always woe is me. And I did I I I found it a little bit funny uh when he said like Tiger called me a whiner. He was probably right about that one. Like that’s that’s probably the only true thing he’s ever said about me or the first thing he’s told he said that’s the first thing me he’s told you media guys in 15 years that’s true. Uh that’s a good quote. I like that one. Great line. I know. Who’s the next nominee for a bad boy? What’s what’s what’s floating? Are we officially can we can we put him in the pantheon of bad boys? I think he’s a bad boy for sure. Um, I’m trying to think I mean are you know it’s the modern Bad Boys is they’ve kind of all consolidated in one place. I I know I’m not the first person to say that, but uh our guy P comes to mind. Patrick Reed, you know, he’s got some he’s got some stuff that would probably be fun to uh to go through legal reasons. I don’t know if we could ever ever go through allegedly. It’s all alleged that he’s a bad boy. I me mentioned Dustin Johnson. some of his uh his away. You want to talk about away from the course uh activities there. Uh but Dustin’s not out there throwing clubs and spitting. You know what did you say? Let it drop. Yeah. Let let it drop. He didn’t spit. Let it drop. Either of them are spitting. Let’s be very clear on that. Want to clarify that. Uh but yeah, I don’t know. I would have to I would have to take a little deep dive myself to try to find uh find some other, you know, more historic historic bad boys. I know they’re I know they’re out there. give us some nominees if you have them as well. The uh you know, we we know the modern ones because we’ve all covered them, but if you got the uh there’s there’s some there’s some old like, you know, like Mark James and Ken Brown uh from Rder Cup days. They’re not as severe, not as long of a story uh as this one, but I know there’s some there’s some bad boy tendencies in some of that stuff. And uh we’re going to we’re going to may or may not dive into that in the future depending on uh on people uh how much people enjoyed this one as well. I greatly enjoyed accumulating all the Sergio stuff into uh into into one list. It is a good it’s a good look back and uh you know like I said at a time like this where it’s kind of a there’s less of these types of characters there’s a little bit of a wistfulness about like ah yeah it was pretty fun when you know it is kind of fun yeah it’s kind of fun to get all riled up about that stuff you know the podcasters need you guys we really do so all right on that note we are going to go thank you everyone for tuning in thank you to Sergio for providing uh this content shout to our friends again at be back here next week. Cheers.