FIRST THINGS FIRST | Nick Wright PROVEN WRONG, Justin Herbert Is BETTER Than Mahomes With LESS | Los Angeles Chargers | NFL
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Justin Herbert. I listen, I’m happy for Justin Herbert and unlike Colin, I don’t mind he’s wearing a backwards hat to the Laker game. However, I am going to point out Laker game this weekend. Dodger game last night, that Dodger game went quite late last night and you ever tried to get out of Shabas Chavez ravine? It’s a nightmare. I I’m not saying Justin Herbert was a little sleepy at practice today. I’m just saying I I’d be I’d be checking his alarm clock. This ranking of Justin Herbert right now is absolute insanity. And I I just put together all the stats, all the numbers. I got all the receipts. I got another clip that I want to show you from Nick Wright that really shows this insane double standard. First off, I love the nuance for the interception here on Patrick Mahome. First one was a great play by the The first one though was a It was a bad decision. It was a great play by Latimore. Great play by Latimore. Interesting. Never want to give the benefit of the doubt for uh Justin Herbert there. But how about this? It’s get it gets worse. Offense, which all all Patrick ever needed was an offensive line he trust and receiving core that’ll run the right routes. And an offensive line that he trusts and a receiving core that runs the right routes. Fascinating, fascinating how Patrick Mahomes gets that qualifier, but Justin Herbert, who has first off his entire career has been dealing with a mess, but this year especially has been dealing with insanity, gets absolutely positively no benefit of the doubt or boost considering what he’s doing. I am so excited to get after this right now. I I have such stats, such numbers. Um, I I I’m I am going all in right now for this video. Uh, I I’m right now, if you’re watching this video, I’m I’m going to be at the hospital uh with my father and mother. Uh, my dad’s getting surgery, so it’s going to be a crazy long day for me. Uh, I’m recording this the day before. Got to be there at like 6:00 a.m. So, please definitely feed the the the comment section. This week in general is going to be so insane. Um, and so, shout out to Chargers fans. You know, uh, you guys have risen to the occasion so much. Uh, before we get really into this, before I get to really do this deep dive that I can’t wait to do, I’m just going to ask you, please don’t forget to watch the full length of this video. Please don’t forget to subscribe so we can keep building such an amazing community here so I can keep making the best possible San Diego Los Angeles Chargers content that I can cuz yeah, I lived in San Diego when the Chargers moved to LA. I was there for that. Um, and so when you guys subscribe and you guys watch the full length of the video, like this is what happens. And it just puts us in a position to just build a community that is genuinely firmly rooted in this sports in this sports talk world. And that is absolutely what I’m trying to do. Uh, and I like I told Chargers fans in a in a previous video that like, you know, things are getting a little crazy on my end. And so that’s why I’m doing these deeper dives. why I’m I’m really holding on right now and doing everything I can to just keep making as much content as I can. And I’m hopeful that I’ll be able to record tomorrow as well or today as you’re watching this. Uh it’ll probably be later in the day, but I don’t really know how how tomorrow is necessarily going to go uh on. So, I’m trying to record as much videos as I can right now. And I’m trying to do other deeper dives. I got my notes and stats all over the place. I made graphics and whatnot uh just to, you know, stay focused on something. So, uh, I appreciate the love. I appreciate the support. Now, let’s get into it. Now that we got that setup out of the way where Justin Herbert is not even a a top 10 quarterback according to according to Nick Ray, uh, which is madness, which is apparently not as good as uh, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, Dak Prescott, Drake May. Okay, that’s interesting. Uh, love, love, love how when we want to talk about interception. Oh, it was just a nice play by Latimore. But with but with Justin Herbert, it was h what a terrible throw. What a terrible decision. Well, nothing Patrick Mahomes could do on that one inter. Interesting. So weird how that is. And also, hey, all you if you give just if you give Patrick Mahomes receivers and no line, he’s amazing. Unbelievable. Let’s take a look at what Justin Herbert has done when he doesn’t have an O line. Let’s start with the lowest hanging fruit in the last two weeks, in the last two games. First in the NFL in passing, 647 yards. Sixth in the NFL, 68.8% completion percentage. Passing touchdowns, second in the NFL with six yards per attempt, which Nick loves apparently, as he says. Seventh in the NFL, 8.1 and passer rating 102.4, four, which is pretty remarkable considering he was pressured 49 times. In the last two weeks, second place was 38. We all know Justin Herbert is being pressured at an insane rate. He’s being pressured all that time and yet he has this pressure to sack percentage of 10.2, two, which is fifth in the NFL, which is remarkable considering how much that man is getting beaten up. But wait, we are just getting started. I know it says uh 2024 was typo, 2025, obviously. Um first in the NFL with 2,140 yards. His completion percentage is 67.8%. Mahomes is 67%. So again, he has a higher completion percentage than Patrick Mahomes and better more passing yards than everyone else in the NFL. And yet his O line he can’t his O line there’s through the roof with drops. Okay, we we’ll we’ll we’ll keep going. Passing touchdowns 16 third in the NFL on target percentage 71.8%. Patrick Mahomes with that O line that he trusts. 66.9%. So Justin Herbert’s actually more accurate with a significantly worse O line. We’ll keep going. We’ll keep going. We’ll keep going. Turnover worthy plays five, which is bottom five in the NFL. Mahomes 10, which is top five in the NFL. So again, being pressured, all that fun stuff. Justin Herbert’s actually smarter, more careful. Okay, drops. He is He has 16 drops right now. Justin Herbert 16 drops. Maybe the the wide receivers are running the right routes. They ain’t catching the ball. He’s second in the NFL in drops. So, he’s number one in pressure in drop backs with pressure and number two in drops. So, can’t trust the O line, can’t trust the receivers, yet still putting up top numbers in the NFL. So, it seems like actually Justin Herbert can do more with less than Patrick Mahomes. And and and and don’t tell me, well, he won games. He won Super Bowl. Guys, we’ve been through this. The the the defense carried a ton. And as I’m going to show you that Justin Herbert is actually being pressured more and has more drops than Patrick Mahomes has ever had in his entire career. And it’s not even close. Yards after catch, ninth, which is not bad. You know who’s number one? Show it to me. Patrick Mahomes by over a 100red yards. You know who’s number two? Baker Mayfield. Gotta love it. Gotta love it. Gotta love it. Right now, Justin Herbert is being pressured. He was pressured 141 times so far. 141 times. Mahomes. 100. A difference of 41 pressures. That is absolutely positively insane. It is. It is massive that that discrepancy. Massive. 141 times. He is literally at a historical pace. His pressure rate is 25.5%. Mahomes 15.8%. Baker 15.8%. QB hits. He’s been hit 42 times. 42 times. Mahomes 30. Baker nine. I mean, how about rushing? Fifth in the NFL, 248 yards. Yards per attempt rushing 6.6. 7 first in the NFL. So, he’s making up a big percentage of rushing yards. Um, is leading the NFL in passing yards. Interesting. And all behind a really bad O line and receivers that keep dropping the ball. Interesting. You know what’s so funny? So, this is since week three, since he’s had an old line and and receivers that won the run the right route. 317, 16 total touchdowns, 114.8 pass rating, complete percentage turnover. Justin Herbert is right within range, but that’s with a terrible O line. That’s with receivers who are dropping the ball. you you you understand that what Justin Herbert is doing and you don’t got to cook the books and say, “Well, let’s just remove those first couple of weeks. Why don’t we remove the exceptionally terrible weeks then for Justin Herbert and and see what what what he what what his uh rankings look like? We don’t have to do that because his rankings are already absolutely unbelievable for the regular season as a whole even though clearly everything is pretty strongly stacked against him. Um we can look at default passing even which is so hard to do when your receivers are dropping the ball and you have no time in the pocket to let the receivers actually get down the field. And yet he’s fourth or he has four deep ball passing touchdowns which is sixth in the NFL and his deep ball passer rating is sixth in the NFL. Again behind an awful O line and receivers who are genuinely struggling to catch the ball. And this is where it gets really fun. Okay, this is last but not least. He is on pace for over 300 pressures and 34 drops. Okay, last season when everybody cried about Patrick Mahomes’s O line, 212 pressures. That’s it. 212. Nearly a hundred more pressures. Is Justin Herbert on on track for? That’s insane. And the drops when everyone had their meltdown in 2023. 29 drops. 29 drops. Justin Herbert is on track for 34. So when they said that Patrick Mahomes had the worst O line, Justin Herbert’s is worse. When they said, “Oh, Patrick Mahomes’s receivers can’t catch the ball.” Justin Herbert’s are worse. And it’s together. Those were separate years for Patrick Mahomes. For Justin Herbert, it’s the same season, but this is where it gets so good. Okay, cuz Justin Herbert, uh, again, that should say 2025. Uh, autocorrect typos crushing me here, but Herbert 2025. This this season he’s on pace for 4,547 yards. Patrick Mahomes in 2023 4,183. Patrick Mahomes in 2024 3,928. Weird passing touchdowns 34 for Justin Herbert. Patrick Mahomes in 2023 26. Uh, and in 2024 26 or excuse me, he actually had 27 passing touchdowns in 2023. My mistake. Completion percentage 68%. Patrick Mahomes 67.2%. Uh, in 2024, 67.5%. Passer rating 97 for Justin Herbert. Patrick Mahomes 92.6. Mahomes in 24 93.5. So by literally every single metric when Justin Herbert’s dealing with the mess that Nick says, well when when when Herbert or or when Mahomes has those things, he could be great. He could be the best quarterback ever. Justin Herbert is literally proving to do more with less at insane levels because even now in those bad years Patrick Mahomes was still getting boosted by Yak 2552 in 23 23 in 2024 and yet Herbert’s on pace for 1,931. Now this is where it continues to get so juicy. So juicy. This is now what Herbert is on pays for compared to Patrick Mahomes in his best years with his best roster. Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, 2018 to 2021. Passing yards 45,547 to 4,676. Passing touchdowns 34- 37. Completion percentage 68% to 66%. And of course, yards after the catch, over 400 yards more for none other than Patrick Mahomes. So literally during Mahomes’s best stretch, his best years with his best roster, O line, all that fun stuff, receivers, best receivers, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Herbert with his receivers who were dropping the ball at an insane rate where he is getting pressured at an insane rate is putting up comparable numbers to what Patrick Mahomes does in perfect, absolutely perfect situations. It’s crazy. It’s absolutely crazy. What’s even crazier is, let’s take 2018 for example, Patrick Mahomes had eight touchdown passes from behind the line of scrimmage and nearly 700 yards. Justin Herbert this year, zero touchdowns from behind the line of scrimmage. Zero touchdowns from screen passes and has uh is on pace to have like under, you know, around like 300 or so yards from behind the line of scrimmage. So, if you give Justin Herbert just a little bit of yak that Patrick Mahomes got from 2018 to 2021, if you give him the benefit of the doubt of some screen pass touchdowns, some behind the line of scrimmage touchdowns, Justin Herbert with a terrible O line and receivers who are dropping the ball, Justin Herbert would be comparable to Patrick Mahomes’s best season of his career. Do you believe that? He would literally be on pace. It’s just math. To throw for more passing yards if he just got the the equivalent of the Yak, a fraction of the Yak, let alone some of the screen game going, adding him giving him a a a handful more of touchdowns. I mean, he would easily be in the 40s if he was getting the similar benefit benefits that Mahomes got with the stacked roster. I mean, it’s just math, guys. Just math. Everyone is obsessed with the stats. Everyone always says numbers don’t lie. Numbers don’t lie. That Justin Herbert in four four from ideal situation from an ideal Russ from an ideal scenario with O line and and receivers as Nick Wright said it. when you give him a receivers, when you give him the receivers, when you give him the O line, Patrick Mahomes is great and is the best. Well, apparently Justin Herbert doesn’t need the receivers or the O line. And yet, he’s still right there with Patrick Mahomes. And when you take away both, when you take away when you take it away from both of them, Justin Herbert is clearly better, clearly does more with less. And it’s not even close. It’s not even close. And that’s also with inferior coaching. Let’s be serious. Andy Reid is Andy Reid. Could you imagine if Justin Herbert had an O line that could protect him? Could you imagine if Justin Herbert ever had an elite wide receiver, one, two, three, you know, tight end, you know, what, however you want to include it, wide receiver, tight end, whatever. people who can catch the ball with a high degree of success and can then also run after catch and can be set up with some easy screen passes behind the behind the line of scrimmage touchdowns. Would we see like 6,000 yards, 60 touchdown? I mean, who knows? Who I mean, my goodness. My goodness. Well, we don’t have to imagine because I did the math for you. Justin Herbert would have 5,397 passing yards whereas Momes only had 5, 97. Crazy. Could you imagine if Justin Herbert was just able to be set up with an O line and some elite receivers and an elite coach all at the same time? You can conservatively say, “Yeah, it would be better than what Patrick Mahomes has done.” It’s just the numbers. It’s just the numbers. I mean, Justin Herbert’s doing it. Justin Herbert would be doing it without that. Like, that’s that’s what I’m trying to say right now. Because those numbers that I just showed you, that’s with all the drops. That’s with all the pressure that that Justin Herbert would have more than Patrick Mahomes in his best season of his career when he was actually protected and had the elite receivers. So, if you actually give the elite receivers, would we see 6,000 passing yards? Would we see 60 touchdowns? Gotta love math. Gotta love math. Numbers don’t lie. Numbers don’t lie. Those are just my thoughts. I’d absolutely love to hear yours. What do you guys all think about Justin Herbert? Um, compared to Patrick Mahomes and how it’s just, you know, Patrick Mahomes gets all the benefit of the doubt when he’s lacking some pieces and when Justin Herbert is lacking the pieces and doing way better than doesn’t even need the benefit of the doubt. Should be getting praise at that boy. You just let me know what your thoughts are. I read every single comment. 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24 Comments

  1. Don’t forget Herbert is on his 3rd Head Coach and 4th OC. While Mahomes has had one head coach and maybe best play caller in league. Herbert has Roman who until now has never featured pass,

  2. This is the worst segment in all of sports television. Which is so lame considering how good this show is overall

  3. Prick wrong is graveyard walking wishing away the threat of the Chargers upending Pricks Cheats as div champs he goes after Herbert like he owes Prick money or stole Pricks girlfriend worst things worst is a KC Cheats TV spirit cheer meeting Prick and his Servile sidekicks FTC BTFU.

  4. This is how Herbert haters think:

    Them: Patrick Mahomes is the greatest!!!

    Me: Well actually Herbert has comparable numbers and currently has better numbers with much less.

    Them: Yeah well, he is not clutch.

    Me: He is the second QB with most winning game drives….

    Them: WELL… HE DOESNT WIN

    Me: Well, Joe Burrow has only one good playoff run, and you say he is the greatest too. He didnt even make the playoffs last year, and he has jamar chase and tee higgins…

    Them: Well at least Joe has palyoff wins…

    Me: Well, does that mean Jalen Hurts is better then Burrow? And Patrick? I mean… if winning matters, and he won the last superbowl, then he is the better QB, right?

    Them: WHAT? JALEN HURTS IS MID….

    Me: Ok….

  5. Nick is a notorious Herbert hater. Dude loves to glaze Mahomes and slobber all over his diddly any chance he gets. Keep doin what you're doin bro🤟🏼 good luck to your Pops!

  6. You sir clearly demonstrate the difference between headline analysis versus football intellect. The skillset of a QB can’t just be measured by W-L and SB titles. It’s the great ones who are competitive regardless of the players and organization around them. The Chargers have had some all time greats that were able to achieve incredible performances under these conditions. I believe Justin Herbert is far and away the best of them all.

  7. Way to cook man omg. The receipts were on point man. I was looking at these a couple days and thinking wtf is talking heads talking about. Almost as if they dont do their homework interesting. Good work dude.🎉

  8. To Nicks opening statement, Justin Herbert said on the podium that he did not stay the entire night for the game because he was mindful he had work the next day. Guess Nick will just say whatever fits his narrative:

  9. JUS10 also played his entire 2nd season (2022) with fractured rib cartilage he got in game 2 against the Queefs & his shoulder labrum tear requiring surgery in Jan 2023 & his multiple finger fractures which ended up causing him to miss 4 games requiring season ending surgery in 2023 and in 2024 his Plantar Fascia injury requiring a walking boot for 2 weeks during pre season/OTAs and the high ankle sprain he played with all 2024 season.
    Kermit (Mahomes) from 2022-2025 he had high ankle sprain in Jan 2023 (Divisional game) & Feb 2023 reaggravated ankle in SB but played. And a 2025 "wrist" injury w/ 0 practice or games missed..
    Basically he played injury free every season since the comparisons began, which supports having a solid O-line does wonders! And despite all that JUS10 has less experience in the leauge & this year is the 1st time he is not working w/ new coordinators, coaches etc.
    Love your content! It is 'bout damn time someone made videos debunking & clarifying the undeserving disrespect JUS10 gets! 💛🤍💙 ⚡10⚡💙🤍💛

  10. Nick had nothing bad to say about his play so he had to criticize what he does on his free time. D1 hater. Mahomes has always had the best of the best around him whether it’s players, coaches, etc. (he’s also a great player himself so I’m not discrediting that). Herbert has always found a way to get Free Agents contracts after playing with him, took a Brandon Staley led team to the playoffs. Herbert is elite. It’s become way too normal for hosts/ analysts to hate and criticize Herbert for team stats/success that anyone that doesn’t watch him week in and week out thinks he is a bad or average player that stat pads at the end of games cuz he’s losing (which isn’t the case)

  11. And my thing is we’re not at least I’m not saying Herbert’s better than Mahomes I’m just saying he’s top 5. I’m saying he’s better than CJ stroud, Jayden daniels, baker mayfield etc…and with stats like you shown that are comparable with Mahomes mind you without the same help should easily prove he’s clearly top 5.

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