“I’m worried for Liverpool” | Nev & Carra react to Liverpool 1-2 Man Utd | Gary Neville Podcast

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Welcome everybody to the Gary Neville podcast which this time has a perhaps slightly reluctant guest in the Jamie Carrager. We come to you from Anfield off the back of Manchester United’s first Premier League win here for very nearly a decade. I was always sure I was going to start with a winner. So Gary, this time it is you perhaps improbably. Why did Manchester United win? Well, I look, we’ll come back to that because I always think that we’ve been so critical of United over the last few years. Um, and this is one of the most famous victories that we’ve seen, not expected. And I want to take us back probably to an hour and a quarter, an hour and a half before the game when those teams came through. And not just me, but when I saw the team, I thought, we’ve got no chance. And I had three or four texts from United fans saying, “Oh my god, Casemiro and Bruno in midfield, Meguire and Dit at the back, you know, the pace of Liverpool, honestly, the energy in midfield of Liverpool and the legs.” And with Casemiro having played two games in um in international break for for Brazil and obviously traveled from Asia, you’re thinking, how can that be right? But but that was pre-match, I have to say. within a minute that had gone because it was a brilliant moment for United. A really good bit of play from Ahmad slipping it into Embermo. Um and that just got them off on the right footing and then from that moment in they were really resilient. They were competitive. They defended set pieces well. They looked dangerous on the counters. I thought the front three were really good. I thought he managed the game really well. Ruben Amarim in terms of you know looking at Casemiro after an hour. Ahmad after an hour at wing back thinking okay let’s get some legs on there. Let’s get some more defensive stability at wing back. Let’s get Agati on for Casemiro because he has had those two trips. So everything seemed to go to plan and then Ruben Amarin managed the game really well. And the most I think I think the most um pleasing thing is that they’ve won having Liverpool equalized because when Liverpool equalized you thought this is going to be the Alamo, the kitchen sink, the lot and Liverpool are going to go and get a winner. But there’s something just before I thought United would score a second. And there was something about that Liverpool team that didn’t have enough defensive mindsets on the pitch. And I just thought United are going to do and they did literally within a minute of that happening. So look, they had a bit of luck. You need a bit of luck. The goalkeepers made some good saves of it. The post three times of Liverpool. But I actually think United deserve what they got today because they applied themselves to the game properly. That was a proper sort of effort that they put in there and that’s not always been the case over the last 10 years in those games that we’ve seen Liverpool beat United. Okay, Jamie. So why did Liverpool lose? Uh listen, Liverpool are not good enough defensively right now and every team that come up against them feel like they can score goals and create chances. Now Man United’s record here over the last 10 years. It’s not just a defeat. I think they’ve only scored three goals I think in nine or 10 games here. But obviously you get the goal early on. We can get into that. Obviously look at Virgil van Djk. But Manchester United look threatening every time they went forward. But they had real big chances in that first half and it feels like it happens every game and I keep going back to the Newcastle game because Newcastle United I think you know scored a couple of goals and had big chances with 10 men and something whether we talk about the balance not being right now. Florian Vver hasn’t played in the last couple of games. Uh whether these players are a team who don’t actually want to do the work without the ball. It’s all about getting on the ball and and you know getting people between the lines. Listen, it’s something we’ll look at tomorrow again on uh on Monday Night Football. But yeah, just uh listen, it could have gone the other way. Liverpool had big chances in the game. But when I was speaking about what I felt Liverpool looked like in the early weeks of the season, I feared this this happening uh because of the way the games were going and scoring, you know, last minute goals. And it almost feels like once that invincibility is gone a little bit with with Man City last season where you think every team feels like they’ve got a chance. And something just come to me there when we were talking and I was thinking about that was I remember playing Arsenal here uh and beating them 2-1 the invincible team and I think they’d lost the game before maybe at Old Trafford and that team just once they’d lost one they just went on this run of losing games because everyone just got this belief they could go and beat them at the time as I said it happened to City last season and it feels like Liverpool now have just lost that sort of cloak of invincibility you know last season they went months without losing the game and then once they’ve lost one, you know, they’re chinking their arm is there and it just feels like every game they go into now the opposition have got real belief they can score goals. You referred to it that that sort of famous night, the first night here against Bournemouth when you had that great exchange that everyone so loved with Anna Slot about your worries around the team and how everyone was. How do you reflect on that conversation now in the context of what you’ve seen since and especially today? All of those substitutions when Liverpool were chasing the game were for the neutral and I’m the only neutral here were thrilling, you know, really thrilling. But I wonder what that made you feel in your gut. I mean, I thought it was a little bit early to go so gung-ho and I I also felt a little bit of a vert playing central midfield. You thinking get him sort of higher up the pitch, but but Liverpool got back into the game and listen, I I don’t really know where the corner comes from if that had anything to do. But man, Man Man United’s uh Man United’s goals come from a set piece again, you know, and I it’s Harry McGuire heading it in. Where are me two big center backs? Where are me big players dealing with that? So, I’ll go back to to that as well. So when I’m not quite sure that had something to do with it tactically, Liverpool still had big chances at the end. You know, you think of the gapo header, the one where a few of them dummy as well. So I don’t think Liverpool actually lost this game necessarily because of the changes on a slot made because I don’t think United sort of counterattacked them through on goal or anything like that. But listen, the small margins right now whereas at times at the start of the season they were going for them, they’re now going against them. And it just feels like every game goes to the wire. And and I the reason I mentioned at the start of the season is and and we had this little debate I never want my team to be described as the most entertaining team and this game being end to end and anyone can score. No, that you like watching teams who do that who are not your team. You don’t like your team doing that. You want your team to be in control and very rarely this season of Liverpool ever being in control of a game of football. I I think the individual performances of Liverpool’s defenders was really poor and decision making the left back’s not settled in. There’s no point in me going over that again. I said on this podcast, I think three weeks ago, he plays like a like a 10-year-old left back. He’s all over the place. At right back, Connor Bradley was okay today. I don’t think he did anything particularly wrong. But, you know, Van Djk, I I I’ve not seen Van Djk as as shaky as that. Now, sometimes when a player comes back from an international break, it’s been him that’s been holding it together, but he had one of his worst games today. Um, he wasn’t himself. And I think if you if your stalwart your captain your sort of your giant in the team isn’t actually playing well from the first minute it does rub off on everybody as well and he had that sort of you know I don’t know what he was doing on the first goal he sort of hands you know the good thing is he’s in he’s there now look turned up for the interview so he’s turn obviously you know he’s Liverpool captain and he’s been one of the greatest center backs and is one of the greatest center backs in the world and one of the greatest center backs in Premier League history but he’s had a difficult day out there today and then Liverpool in midfield just looked a little bit all over the shop But look, come on to Salah shortly. They just all of them are sort of just a little bit short of where they are. You know, Vertz hasn’t settled in. Let’s just say it. Each has not settled in quite yet. I mean, has a brilliant player. Mo Salah is well below his best. You’ve got three 150 million pound players there. Whether they’re 150 million pounds in terms of how much Liverpool have paid for them or worth that just generally in terms of their worldass nature like Salah, you’ve got three players that are not firing as well. That doesn’t half have a big impact. And when obviously Allison’s missing, Van Dijk’s not at his best. It is a ripple effect through the team. And United today, to be fair, they looked like they were dangerous on every single attack. I thought United could score, too. I didn’t stop saying it. Even when Liverpool scored and went to 1-1, I just thought, look, I don’t feel Liverpool are safe here. I think United have got to go and get a second. And I thought they would get a second. I thought the ball from Bruno Fernandez, by the way, for the second goal was special. That was a brilliant ball into the box. It’s a bad night for Liverpool. I thought after the international break they would recalibrate and reset. Do you know sometimes when you’re a team that’s won a title like they have you sometimes need a break where you just saw two to the right now come on kick back in concentration focus we’re not going to give any goals away but in a minute of this game that goes out the window. So even if they have tried to reset mentally after a minute they’re a goal down and they’re thinking oh and for United if you score here in the first half I always think you’ve got a chance because it does make this crowd nervous. this crowd is a great asset and you nearly saw it being a great asset towards the end but it also can be a little bit of a pressure you know if obviously the away team scoring United scored early and it really give them confidence and I I I I was really look there have been times where I’ve not been proud of United in the last 5 10 years because I think they’ve fallen well short in matches but I thought they showed a spirit and a heart today is there something in Manchester United when I think of Amaran and listen you know it’s one result and and we we can’t disguise as been really poor since he’s come in and in some ways it probably couldn’t have got any worse in terms you know you know the games they’ve won losing that cup final to Spurs this even the start of this season but I I just think twice he’s come to Anfield I think he’s been to Man City and won fortunately I think they’ve been to Arsenal maybe once somewhere maybe in a cup game or something that and we talk about the system a lot and one of the reasons why I don’t think it it suits a club of Manchester United is because I don’t think it’s a system that puts you on the front foot and you can get after teams But maybe when you’re the team who are not expected to go and win the game, it can be a difficult system to sort of break down once you get into that back five and that four in front. If you question that four in front at times, but when you’re at home, the attacking players think, well, I should be up this pitch. I’m not really going to get back and tuck in and defend. But Mason Mounts picked for that role today. And it is a difficult sort of nut to crack for any team. That’s why Crystal Palace have joy because Crystal Palace are the team who are not seen as as the team who’ve always got to take the game to the opposition. They can sit there and more often than not games that they go into, they’re not expected to win or the sort of, you know, a mid-table team and he’s getting more out of them because of that. Maybe that’s why he’s done well in these big games, especially away from home. But in terms of going forward and being on the front foot, Manchester United, scoring goals and winning games, that’s why I think it’ll always hold them back this system. I I I thought United in these four games, obviously Liverpool away, Brighton at home, Forest away, Tottenham away. I was thinking seven, eight points is great. Seven points would be part out of these four games. Um now there’s a real chance and they should be thinking to go and get 10 points out of these four games. That would get them back up in I think to the top six. And that’s what I think they need this month. But you know, let’s be clear what we thought before the game. I thought if United United lose here today, which they’re more than likely to do when I saw the team sheet, I’m thinking Ruben Amarim is going to go into that Brighton game under real pressure with Forest and Tottenham to come. This is a complete turnaround game this. But it has to be something that they don’t go and sort of they can’t get carried away with this now. They’ve got a week before Brighton. They have to go and beat Brighton next Saturday or else it becomes something that sort of lessens what’s happened here today. They’ve got a kickstart springboard from what they’ve done here today cuz to to win at Anfield is special in any season. This is a bloody tough place to play. To win here is the hardest ground honestly and to win here tonight. They should be really proud because it’s you know it’s a big achievement. But they’ve got to kick on from here. I I just listen. We’re seeing pictures here Harry McGuire and of course you’ll know I’m absolutely devastated with this result. But I think if anyone is going to get a winning goal here and he almost got the winning goal last season, I must say out that dressing room I’m looking at, I’m probably pleased it’s him because the amount of criticism that that lad’s taken and that’s the nature of being at one stage he was the captain of Manchester United and Manchester United are fantastic club and have huge standards and of course listen it hasn’t happened for him in terms of you know his price tag and coming to the club but that’s something he’ll always remember and he’ll always be remembered for Manchester United fans for getting the uh you know the winner. at Anfield. So if someone was going to get the win, I’m probably quite pleased because that lad has been through a lot and it kind of been easy what he’s gone through over the years. So and you know what, he always fronts up. He’s always in that team. He could have moved a couple of times. Uh you know, he can get away from the line go to a lesser club, you know, in the spotlight as much, but he hasn’t. He’s he’s been there, you know, for Manchester United. He’s there. He doesn’t play every week. So if it’s going to happen, fair play for him. Yeah. No, no, there is a lovely human element to that, Jamie. And I’m I’m glad you brought it up and actually Harry Mcguire’s an example of a player who could be scarred by the experiences he’s been through and the Manchester United team as a whole could be pretty scarred. I appreciate even as a a non-player that scoring after a minute helps in terms of confidence, but didn’t they look surprisingly confident today? Didn’t the selection seem to work out? Didn’t Mount work together, Peter? Absolutely. I thought the front three played well. I thought Casemiro and Fernandez in midfield probably had the best game that they could have had together. I think honestly I was really worried about that. I always worry when Delicks in that right channel with McGuire at center back. I always think there’s not enough pace in there. But I thought this there’s a few problems with gapo in this first half but it was fine. I think for Harry Maguire it was a really good day for him. I think both Delect and him both want that central um defensive part, but like you say, this is they’ve got to go from today and think right I I don’t think they should be celebrate tonight in a sense of celebrating and thinking how proud you should be to win it. But I hope as they get on that bus, I hope there’s a mindset of right, come on, this is it. We’re not going back there again, you know, we’re not going back into that bottom half of the table. They’ve just gone into the top half of the table, I think, to ninth. And I think if they win next week, you know, they’ve got to start thinking of pushing up the league because they’ve got to get to a point whereby there’s stability at the club. The only way there’s going to be stability is through winning football matches. So, no, look, it’s a great day for Manchester United. I think Maguire and all of them should be proud of how they played. They did they really did a good job here and yeah, I was surprised at the levels they got to today, but let’s see it again next Saturday night against Brighton. Yeah. So, so from Liverpool’s point of view, Jamie, and again, we don’t want to be, it is only one game. It’s a very, very big game, but for Liverpool, it’s now, of course, four games. Um, and they’re a little bit off the pace. Nobody’s saying they can’t win the league anymore, anything silly like that. But it kind of brings a punctuation point. It brings a a natural reflection. I mean, what what happens next with Liverpool? Where where do they how do they improve from here? Could you go Joe Gomez, right? And it sounds crazy sometimes. We used to do this. Could you go Joe Gomez right back, Robertson left back with Kenati and Van Djk and just say right, okay, for a couple of weeks we’re going to bulldoze our way back into this league and basically keep clean sheets. Is there something in that? Listen, I think that’s probably something we’d have done in our day. Uh I I just don’t think Anna slott’s that type of manager. I think he always wants to be the manager who sort of his team are making the play. They’re on the ball. So he’d want a fullback to actually progress the ball forward and you know be attacking if you like in terms of the team that he picks. That that could be something maybe you do in a big away game, of course. But I think for Liverpool right now it’s it because the games come so quick and fast, you know, before you know you’re at Brenford Saturday night and how long Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. So how how when does a blip become a crisis? When is it something angled out the team who ran away with the league title last season spending400 million pound in a summer you know so people can say it’s early days and you’re looking at different players but when you spend that type of money and you’re the champions you’re talking about really high expectations and I keep going back to it felt like a Real Madrid summer you know that’s what Real Madrid go going do go and spend the the most money on the the best players in in the market in a summer it’s not Liverpool like that so it’s very different Liverpool summer than we’ve probably ever seen. seen uh before and yeah I I’m I’m I’m worried Phil Liverpool in terms of not just the results it’s the performance has all seen so the games they’ve won they’ve never looked convincing and that’s that that’s almost a bigger worry for me than the actual results that they’re in right now just just just on Salah the interesting thing is obviously there’s a questions are being asked about him whether it’s his age whether it’s his one season too many all the other stuff but the strange thing in watching Salah is usually when a player is sort of getting to the usually a player player getting towards the end of his career, what you notice is the physical decline. And I’m not seeing a physical decline in him in respect of sort of like some of his sprints look quite sharp. He looks busy in the box, but just like crazy things like the ball comes to the back post. His technique on his kicking and his sort of crossing, that’s the thing that looks well off. So he look there’s a couple of moments there at the back post where you think that’s not Mo Salah. He had that chance where he sort of dragged it really ugly like you know to the to the to the left of the post. think that’s just his technique that MoSalah could probably play when he’s 52 and still have a good technique. So, but that’s the bit that’s surprising me is the technical bit. I think I think Mo Mo has declined physically in terms of when he first came. It’s the technical decline that we’re seeing. Yeah. But what I would say is, you know, problems. No, I agree. But even when MoSalah has been at his absolute best, he can have games where he looks technically poor. He can just he’s one of those players who at times you think for such a great player sometimes the performances and this is not this season this is over his time for Liverpool we all know as Liverpool fans and you put up with it because you think he’ll score two in a couple of weeks you know he goes through these little runs now when he first came in he had blistering pace him and Mane that’s not there so much but he still had a sharpness about him. I’m not quite sure that sharpness is still there over I still think he looks quite sharp. I’m not sure. Uh I don’t I think he looks sharp in those little areas where you’d want him to look sharp sharp in the in the like last 18 20 yards of the pitch, but as the ball comes to the back post on two or three occasions or the for for instance the vert the verts um assist for him that would have been an assist at Chelsea and you think he’s got to finish that. Today there’s two chances at the back post. He’s got to finish that. It’s the technical aspect of his game that’s letting him down at the moment for me more than the physical aspect. Yeah. No, no, there’s there’s no doubt he he he can at times look not like a world class, but he can look like an average player technically. I’ve said that before that was at his heyday. He has lost something physically, but I I I do worry and and I do think this is a real conundrum for the manager going forward what you do. It was interesting you mentioned in commentary that he brought him off. Now that’s that’s that’s not the first. If you remember Jen Klopp used to bring him off a lot if he wasn’t playing particularly well, Jen Klopp was shy. So that that that shows you that in in years gone by Mo Salah could be having a poor game and and he’d still get brought off even if he had an extra little bit of energy or sharpness. But I do think right now it’s really interesting what the manager does because I think we’re at the stage with MoSalah right now where he shouldn’t be playing every game. It shouldn’t be a case like he’s one of the first names on the team sheet. It should be a case of yes, he’s in your best team. He plays in home games. Maybe you have to think about it. Liverpool have got two away games, one in Europe, one in Brenford. I don’t think he plays in both of them. So, I I think these things have got to start coming maybe into the manager’s head and maybe you have a little look at fring pong in an away game. You can maybe help your fullback a little bit more defensively, but maybe gives you a little bit of pace on the outside as we saw when he comes. So, I think we’re at that stage now where Mo Salah shouldn’t be a guaranteed starter every week. Yeah, we should finish the section on this game which is most of what we’re talking about with Manchester United and we will because it’s United’s day. But just a final thing just because I’m interested Jamie in your opinion particularly on this. I read a piece the other day uh you might have done too suggesting that this is like Liverpool’s transition season a year late. You know, everybody expected my piece about maybe it was I don’t know but but I’m I’m wondering whether that is kind of coming to pass. Well, listen, I I I I don’t think you should say that and use that as like an excuse because as I go back to the the champions who won the league with these have spent 400 million on two or three of the best players on the market in their position. So transition may be a little bit too strong but you do feel and and I go back to Paris Sanjiman last season when you watch Paris Sanjiman in the first half of the season it was like a completely different team to what you saw in the second half of the season. They almost went out of the Champions League group stage. Now this Liverpool team has to get better. These players would turn out to Each and Vert and Nekatique who come off the bench. They’re too good of players not to improve what they’re doing right now. And players who we’re looking at here like you know Virgil van Djk uh you know MoSalah uh Canate those players performances will improve. So Liverpool will get better. The worry for them is I think they’re going to lose more points between now and the end of January, February. A lot more points. And will Arsenal or Manchester City be too far away from them? Because I think Arsenal right now look the best equipped team to win the title in terms of the way the league is now. It’s it feels like a lot of set pieces, long throws. Liverpool can see the goal again from a set piece. Arsenal look sort of scoring goals from set pieces. They can defend them as well. And they might be better equipped to win this title in terms of how the Premier League is going style-wise from from all the teams. But Arsenal will get nervous in March and April because they haven’t won a league for so long. And Liverpool and Manchester City need to make sure they’re not too far out in front where they can’t affect that. And that’s that’s the thing with Liverpool now losing these silly points. And I think they’ll lose more. They’ve got to keep Arsenal sort of within arms length of them. I I think Arnot’s got a a big a big job to do. Um I think Liverpool’s recruitment has been lorded and rightly so for many years. But if you look at the five outfield signings, Kirz has not settled in. Friong has not settled in. Vertz has not settled in. Each’s not settled in. Ekit I think’s probably done has settled in. I think he’s probably done okay in the games that he’s um played in. I think he’s obviously done well when he’s come on a sub. He looks he looks really sharp. But if your four main signs and and the problem is two of those are at fullback. So for me I I do I think I’m concerned by Liverpool’s fullbacks if I was Liverpool fan because that’s half your back four. They didn’t get gay which is obviously the other bit of recruitment that was supposed to sort out the center back partner for well with Kenate or so with with with Van Djk. So for me I think the Liverpool signing just haven’t got going yet. Once Isak Verts if Friong Fong and Kirk have to settle in if the left back doesn’t settle in it will be a problem. you you you cannot have your fullbacks basically not being at a level. You just can’t or else you’re going to concede goals. But the thing I find strange about and I was Liverpool needed at left back and to become first choice. Let’s not make no bones about Andy Robertson last year won the league title, played week in week out at left back, but we’ve been in that position. You watching a player almost just hanging on a fullback and it it can be a position where you’re exposed. Now Kirk is a far better player than Simas. So you think Liverpool should be stronger in that left back area? What I’m surprised at is not that K has his first choice because I think that was right initially for him to come in, but Robertson’s almost getting treated like Simcastas where it’s like you never play. You only play unless the left back’s injured or you know you come on. I thought Robertson would play today. Yeah, maybe. Exactly. But I thought there would have been and that was my point about bringing a left back in. Andy Robertson needs help. So it was almost I can’t I’m surprised he hasn’t been given more games. Not just because KZ hasn’t performed that well, just more of actually he has been a great Liverpool left back. He won the league last season. KZ is a new player. It almost just feels like it’s it’s KZ is the left back and that’s the end of it. And I I find that strange really uh you know from game one. Sure. So Gary, final word on on Manchester United. I wonder what this result and the feeling it’s given you does to your I won’t say ambitions for them but your what what have Manchester United’s possibilities become off the back of a day like this. Look Peter honestly I think Manchester United have got a top six squad particularly when you know that they haven’t got European football and they haven’t got Caribel Cup now. So they’ve got a free week nearly every week for the rest of the season. So for me I think Manchester United preparing with three weeks with that amount of players in the squad. If you look at the four or five players they got up front in Cesco, Kuna, Ahmad and Burmo and Mount you know Bruno behind them and then them center backs they’ve got they’ve got Euro uh Dict Meuire um Luke Shaw they should be able to get a top six finish with the three weeks out of that squad. So, what I’m hoping out of today is unexpectedly United find themselves in the top half of the table. I wasn’t expecting to be in the top half. I kept looking at thinking we’re 12th before the game starts to be in ninth tonight. Honestly, now we’ve got Brighton next Saturday at home and you got Nottingham Forest away. Look, the the big concern is the Brenford performance where you you you go and do well against Chelsea and then Brenford comes. You can’t do that. So what can’t happen is now is we got to this height of performance and then all of a sudden Brighton ends up being a dip. So the next couple of weeks are huge I think for Ruben Amarim to start to build Ruben Amarim’s got to start trusting those players. I know we talk about trusting Ruben Amarim and him sort of being under pressure and that’s always going to be the case with the manager but Ruben Amarim wants to be able to trust his players. I know he likes them and I know the players like him. You can see that there’s no sort of player sort of like you know losing the dressing room type stuff which we have seen with United many times. You know, there’s no doubt those players admire their coach. They like him as a person, but they’ve got to start trusting each other. Trust the system if you’re the players, but also Ruben Amarim trust his players that they can deliver consistently. So, I’m just looking towards next week now. Enjoy tonight because it’s one of the greatest moments you can have as United player come winning at Anfield. And it happens rarely. So, win enjoy tonight. But honestly, lads, you’ve got to get back at it tomorrow morning. You’ve got to switch on and focus because next Saturday will kick you right where you don’t want it to kick you if you’re not at your best. Brighton are a good side. So really start to focus so hard on that in terms of everything that you do this week. Lovely stuff. I don’t think that we need to do too much any other business. This was the story of the weekend. So maybe Jamie, just before Gary finishes us off, um you can tee up Monday Night Football. Yes, we’ve got Gary O’Neal who coming on. He’s he’s obviously out of work at the moment, but he came on a couple of years. Was fantastic on the show. We’ve got obviously the game is West Ham Brenford Luno’s first home game. Yes. Yes. So, obviously we’re going to look at that and you would imagine set pieces, long throws are going to be heavily involved in the game. So, that’s something we might look at after, you know, the game at half 10 where the Premier League’s going in terms of set pieces. Liverpool have lost the game on a set piece. Arsenal win again yesterday on a set piece. You know, long throws. Manchester United, you know, today taking plenty of long throws. So, we’ve got two teams like that. We’ll obviously look at this. We look at the situation with an and Nottingham Forest uh as well. and they probably look at Crystal Palace and Bournemouth as that was a great game. That was a mess, wasn’t it? You know, an then having to go they were always going to probably lose against Chelsea at home. So, was why not just sack him after the you know, before the international break ended rather than after the game yesterday. I thought I just thought it really strange that and then they only leaving the leaving the stand, you know, 30 minutes before the end of the game and then sacking being sacked 19 minutes after a game. I just think there’s a way to do it. I mean the the style differential between Nuno and An we all said it at the time couldn’t have been any more stark. So how he how he was going to implement that change mid-season I just think was really going to always be difficult. Look I’m not saying that an you know didn’t need to go because of the results and sometimes an owner know you’ve been in a position whereby you realize your mistake quickly and you make it but just a little bit unsavory I felt in terms of the way in which it ended. I don’t know what you thought. No, no. I mean, it wasn’t necessarily the media or people like us questioning the the supporters were putting that much pressure on, you know, on the managing. You seen him come out fighting, didn’t you, in the press conference before the game and in some ways I admire that, but you know, you’re bringing him, you know, the Foster who’s lost 31 out of 50 his last 50 Premier League games. So, he he doesn’t like to look at that. He like he likes to look at the fact that they won, you know, a trophy. Tottenham’s a huge success. But as other people look at the other, you know, the flip side of that coin as well really. It just it yeah, it didn’t feel like a great appointment and yes, it hasn’t gone well. But maybe they’ve they’ve made the right decision obviously in their eyes, but it’s going to be really interesting to see where where they going because it looks like it could be Sha Dice now. That shows how fearful they are of actually relegation and that comes from the fact that Sunderland and Burnley are actually doing well and getting points on the board. That’s the real worry in the Premier League this season for teams that they could go down. That worry hasn’t been there for the last couple of seasons. So it might be a case of bring Sha Dai in and you know do the job that he did at Ever and keep Nottingham Forest in the league. Yeah. And the fact they’re in trouble obviously also plays into the fact they promoted teams are doing really well which is uh which is great for the league. And I’m glad you’re doing Palace and Bournemouth too because those are Don’t hold me to that. That’s what Don’t I don’t want their fans on me. You mentioned you mentioned it. You mentioned it and and Palace and Bournemouth are absolutely deserving of a mention. So that’s great. It’s been a terrific um Premier League weekend. Well done, Gary. Thank you. Has it? Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, it’s been as good as it ever could be, actually.