2025 Ryder Cup Recap! Europe Wins, Sunday Singles, & Where USA Goes from Here | Golf on CBS

2025 Ryder Cup Recap! Europe Wins, Sunday Singles, & Where USA Goes from Here | Golf on CBS

What is up everybody? It’s the golf on CBS preview show recapping the RDER Cup. Uh a unexciting RDER Cup for uh 75% of it and then a very exciting Sunday singles. We’ll get into all that. Shane Bacon with Patrick McDonald. Patrick, first Ryder Cup for you. Give me a grade on the week. Wow. On the week as a whole, so not just the competition, but Patrick McDonald’s experience I’m going to put at a B. There are a lot of highs, a lot of lows, some logistical nightmares mixed in, too. Uh, and a lot of Charlie’s. That’s what me and my buddies used to call them. Kind of a neck shane, right? When you’re you’re definitely wrong on something, even though you were pot committed. And I had a few of those. An apology to Shane Lowry, of course, the puppy who is now the big dog for the European Rder Cup team. I had US, biggest of dogs. You, of course, picked Europe correctly. and you almost called the blowout of all blowouts. So, kudos to you and uh of course ranking it number four. I think our viewers really really appreciated that. I’m going to bump it up to number two at the moment. It’s behind the Masters and I’ve never covered the Open, so it’s kind of a two-way right now, but that Sunday experience for me was an A++, but as a whole, it was a B. Did at any point on Sunday did you think the Americans were actually going to win? Was there ever a point where you had talked yourself into this is actually happening? No. Just because you saw how many ties were on the board still and I I thought it was pretty funny how the American fans when it was announced that Harris English and Victor Hofflin weren’t playing. No, I like that. They started cheering on the ring. Oh wow. They wanted to happen. They were they were pumped about getting 10% more points. Right. I mean, they got half a point. That was a lot for the Americans at the onset of Sunday. I know the players weren’t too happy because they would have liked to go out and play, but they’re like, “Oh my gosh, we’re at five now.” And it’s like, “Okay, look at the Europeans. They only need two.” And so I I think they loved that there was no blue on the board, but there was a lot of gray on the board. And I don’t think the math was really clicking for some of the uh some of the fans who were there for a pretty long time. I mean, a ton of opportunity in terms of Sunday singles with the way the Americans played. I mean, to me, it kind of encapsulates the entire experience on both sides, right? When you have to pair up with somebody, the Europeans succeed and they continue to dominate us on that side. The moment you have to get individualized, something Americans are very good at in general. Um, we typically are very good at playing our style of golf. And of course, the Americans go out there, you know, and and needing not just a miracle. I mean, this was I mean, you know, Keegan’s pulling up, you know, Pat’s Falcons. I mean, this is 52-7 at halftime and having to come back, right? I mean, this isn’t needing two touchdowns and maybe a turnover in the second half. This is needing something that honestly probably has never happened in the history of sport in terms of of needing a flip. I mean, at one point, looking at that board, you’re sitting there seeing all the red that we saw and seeing some of those early matches go Americans way. Those putts at 18 were incredible uh by Cam and by Justin Thomas. We’ll get into Young by the way. He was obviously the superstar of the Rder Cup on the American side. But, you know, you see some of those things happening and you know, if you’re a historian of golf, you think about, you know, Brookline and you think about Madina, but that was four points on both sides. That wasn’t this. And you needed every single thing to go your way. It felt a little bit like when you’re when you’re a gambler and you’re on the wrong side of something late in a football game. You’re like, “All right, man. If we get like a touchdown here and then the onside kick and then a field goal and then another onside kick, like we have a chance here.” And obviously, uh it just wasn’t the math wasn’t going to going to add up on the American side, but I didn’t think so either. I was at a at a little party for our neighborhood. We have a neighborhood party on Sundays once a year. Not to brag. Yeah. Um, I was over there, you know, I was I was talking to some of the new neighbors, you know, I was kind of mingling a little bit. Um, chasing the kids around, throwing the ball a little bit with the kiddos. And I check my phone. I’m sitting there go, one of those whistle footballs, too, Pat. People like that a lot. Behavior. Oh my goodness. And um, at one point I’m I’m looking around. I got to go back to the house like I don’t know what’s happening, but something’s happening, right? There’s movement. And um the moment I got back over was uh was the the the bunker shot and then the putt left short for Russell Henley. And um that was that. I’ll say if nothing else, it added drama to an event that I was I was preparing, Patrick, to talk to you on this show and say this is going to go down as one of the worst golf events that I can ever remember. Just kind of from from the kickoff to the finish. And Sunday single saved it from from really being that. Yeah. I was ready to relegate the United States to only the President’s Cup and then promote the international team for uh for the RDER Cup. So, international versus Europe in 2027. That’s how poor I thought the US performance was. And yeah, I think when we look back on this in history, people will see the score and be like, “Oh my goodness, how tight this RDER Cup was.” But like you mentioned, the team portion of the event, the United States laid an absolute egg. They were brutal and they kept on talking about luck. They kept on talking about making putts, but all those small details really add up to the big advantage that the Europeans had the first two days. And so they need to figure out something in forsomes, in for ball. It it’s clear when you look at Scotty Sheffler and Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson in their records and in the team portion of this event, something just doesn’t jive for them. It one I imagine has to be se so frustrating for them how good they are not having to hit every single golf shot in forsomes, right? And then in four ball I think uh you know they kind of just got a little bit unlucky. You look at the scores on Friday afternoon, Shane, both teams shot 26 under combined. Europe won 2 and a half to one and a half. Saturday afternoon, Europe shot 36 under. The Americans 31 under and they lose 3-1 in that session as well. And that’s really the details. I think I I don’t think it’s by accident that they shoot the exact same score in Europe comes up on top and wins that session. It’s really about pairings and how Luke Donald composed that roster. I mean, it goes back to the whole, you know, Victor Duba song, Graham McDow thing, right? I mean, this was what, 2012, you know? I mean, I think that was the the 2012 Ryder Cup. It’s it’s the idea that you’re pot committed to this event two years out. You know, the moment this ends, um Shane Lowry’s talking about a day a day dare Manner yesterday, right? And you know, he’s talking about walking up 18 saying, “I’ve got an opportunity here to do the coolest thing I’ve ever done in my life.” You know, something I’m going to remember for the rest of my life. I remember 2012 uh it rolled right into the Dunnh Hill and Jamie Donaldson who you remember I think was the winning point getter in that Ryder Cup did a a Monday morning interview. It’s like bloodshot eyes with a big smile on his face. I mean the culture of this you look at the tweets from guys like Nicholas Koulsarts and guys that have been a very small part of the European Rder Cup experience and how meaningful all of this is. It’s just a completely different thing in terms of the way we think about it and the way they think about it. And I do think something that hasn’t I haven’t seen brought up much and I think something that is at least worth throwing out there the Americans way. This is not a defense of the American team by any stretch of the imagination. The Europeans do this once every two years and the Americans have to do this every year and and the Americans have a President’s Cup event that is a sleepy event that seems inevitable that the Americans win every time that every couple every four years you’ve got to travel international to play in it. you know, you’ve got to get the same vibes and the same feel and the same team room and the same clothing and bags and all the things that come with the RDER Cup. Um, but obviously a B level of that. The Americans have to do one of these things every single year. And when you’re a Scotty Sheffler or you’re a Justin Thomas or you’re a Colin Morawa or whoever the case may be, you’re a top five, top seven American player, you know, for a 10, 12, 15 year stretch every single year late in the season when you’re probably a bit exhausted and you’ve played all the majors and you play the FedEx Cup and the season’s done, you’ve got to get up for this event. And the Europeans do not have to do that. The Europeans entire focus can be on a Ryder Cup and a Ryder Cup alone. And I think there’s a difference there. I think the fact that when this ends, they get two years to to get prepared and ready for this ex this specific event versus the Americans now having to think about like I don’t know where the president’s cup is next year. Do you have any idea where it is? I believe it is down under. Is it in Australia? I believe so. I think it’s Oglev and Sneder. Yeah, but you know what I’m saying? It’s like that you gota you got to do this next year as well. No, it’s in it’s in America. It’s in the US. Is it? I don’t know. I mean I mean it was definitely it was definitely in Canada last year. Um, let’s go with Hazel team. Sounds something like that. It’s It’s like the rotation of the five places that host this thing. But you know, you know, my point here is the RDER Cup is their focus in terms of team golf. And the Americans aren’t allowed that that that opportunity. Not to, again, not an excuse. It’s just reality of what Americans have to do. And it just seems like that could go one of two ways. That could be better for your team because you get to do it more often. Or it could be detrimental because you feel like you’re kind of in the this washing machine of of being kind of quote unquote forced to do this if you’re not a total buyin guy like a like a Max Homa or you know an early Anthony Kim back in the day or or one of these players that love doing this. It seems like um it almost feels like a bit of an obligation at times for the American players. Let me play devil’s advocate here and and say the President’s Cup should be a positive for the US team. And the word of the week, Shane, was continuity. Continuity. Continuity. Continuity. And I looked at these these team rooms, these captains, and how much continuity there is on the European side. And I was talking to someone last night, and it’s like once you’re an American captain, it’s almost like you’re done. It’s like you win the RDER Cup or you’re you captain a Ryder Cup team, that’s it. You’re done. Out of here. You’ve reached the mountain top. There’s nothing else for you to do. you don’t need to contribute anymore. I know V uh I was going to say Victor Havlin for some reason. Jim Furick was in the leadership room this year, but he was really the only adult in the room. Keegan Bradley in his introductory press conference said he wanted a whole new regime in there and he got it. Kevin Kizner, Gary Woodland, Web Simpson, Bran Snedker. First time captaining in a Ryder Cup for them. Kizner’s never played in a Ryder Cup. Woodland never played in a Ryder Cup, but they were in there. They even had backstaff. you. There were a lot of random people I saw on site this week. Shane, Ken Griffy, MJ, Brendan Steel was part of the team in the back room also. And I was like, what is he doing here? And then you add in kind of the the uh relationship of, you know, who was first named in a leadership position for this US team of all people? John Wood, the GM. Not even Keegan’s guy potentially. Right. Right. We we see how poorly that’s worked out in the NFL. The head coach and the GM and the owner aren’t aren’t all on the same book. And trust me, PJ of America GM and the head coach here are probably not all on the same book. And you go and look at that compared to the European team. Jose Maria, Thomas Bjorn, who are who’s like raising the boyard twins pretty much and has already been a captain. You have Kolars who was only part of it in the beginning of the week a little bit and he was in the mix there at Rome. The Molinari brothers who have been a part of the competition for so long and then Luke Donald as well. He was a vice captain in 18 and 21 and of course his playing record too. And it’s just the juxtaposition between those two to me is so stark and a big reason why. And the President’s Cup is an opportunity to create continuity in leadership. I I know players change, right? It would have been great if Max was still in form and part of this team. I mean, he was the best player in Rome for the United States. It would have been great if Brooks Kepka is Brooks Kepka. If Patrick Reed isn’t isn’t a little menace and he qualifies for these teams. I think people love seeing Patrick Reed play at the Ryder Cup if he ever gets a chance again. But the continuity in the back room needs to be there. And I think the President’s Cup is an opportunity for them to create some of that and they just don’t. And I think that that means like the PJ tour and the PJ of America need to get in a room together and and get on the same page for the betterment of honestly both competitions. I was thinking a crazy rule that would never happen, but I would love to see happen is you cannot play on a Rder Cup team unless until you play on a President’s Cup team. Almost like it’s minor league golf. like you you cannot be on a Ryder Cup team on the American side unless you have played on the President’s Cup team. You you need that year or whatever of experience on that side before you put the red, white, and blue on for the major leagues because the President’s Cup’s minor league. It is. I mean, the bottom line is it’s just not as good of an event. And as we’ve said, it’s it’s it’s decided before the event happens. Unfortunately for the Ryder Cup, starting to kind of feel like that. It’s starting to feel inevitable in terms event now. And that’s what I’m saying. I mean, if the if the Internationals could actually win one of these things, it could maybe uh jump up a couple of spots. But I I like the idea of of like forcing these players to be a part of a team room before you jump into this. I mean, not to say inexperienced. I hate the term rookie. I I hate the idea that these guys don’t know how to play. They’re pro golfers for goodness sakes. Like, once you hit the first T-OT, you’re out there playing like you’re playing at a ma at the Masters. It’s it’s different for sure, but it’s still pro golf, right? It’s not a different sport. Um, it might be different formats, but it’s not a different sport. But there were a lot of rookies and a lot of inexperience on the American side, both in the captain’s room, to your point, and as the players, and and what we saw from some of the young players was early in the week, it didn’t go great. And so, it’s just it just feels discombobulated in every possible way on the American side. It just seems like there’s there’s no leadership. Like the golf course, it was a joke. It’s the worst golf course I’ve ever watched in a major sporting event in my life. The setup, it was awful. I live in the Northeast, Patrick. It has not rained that much lately. You go play my golf course right now, balls aren’t plugging in the greens and spinning back like that. This was a disaster. Whoever set the golf course up, if it was Keegan or the PGA of America, should be as embarrassed as you can be in terms of setup or that being your job. It was unwatchable golf. That’s no fun for anybody. Guys, guys spinning it out of the rough. Ball’s literally not rolling. Almost nobody making a bogey. Bogey’s got to be an option here, right? In terms of pro golf to make it interesting, I think it’s the worst golf setup since the 2016 PGA, which is the PGA we don’t talk about. I think this is the worst golf course setup since Baltist Raw. I mean, it was it was awful. And Keegan admitted admitted as such, right? He said after in his press conference, I wish I’d have set the golf course up differently. But just from the jump, man, the golf course stunk. Stunk. The setup stunk. And then of course you add in this this element of these fans obviously overstepping and the Europeans dominating and it just feels like we’re losing a little bit of this event that’s supposed to be special in golf. It was super manufactured this week. Like the hype I found out what master of ceremony stands for at MC. I was like who is this like what is who is this MC? Why does she have this title master of ceremonies? Then it was like a oh okay uh like the president rolling in even like throwing Bryson and JT out there first like yeah I wanted to get the crowd into it like buddy it’s the RDER cup you don’t need added juice it should already be there it was the worst kept secret on the property that Bryson and JT you know pairing I really wanted was going out first but Luke Donald read read it like an absolute book and was like all right Turl Hatton and John Rom you go beat those guys very much uh the golf course too it was We’d stand behind these guys out of the rough, perfectly propped up lies, and you wouldn’t even hear the ball hit the club face. It was just like so smooth, so easy out of there. And it honestly got to the point, Sh uh Shane, where playing out of the rough was more beneficial than playing out of the fairway just because with how soft the greens were. And I think Keegan Bradley maybe, you know, didn’t place the blame on some other people or got bailed out might be a better way to put it with the quote early weeks that softened up the golf course. But that golf course was pretty soft when we got there early in the week. And so it was not how the US team should have set up the golf course. It’s not how people want to watch a golf course in a big time event. And you just look at bogey avoidance in general that that was actually one of the US teams big strength coming into the competition and they went the other way. I I think Luke Donald said when his team got here Molinari said uh something along the lines of you know we’re pleasantly surprised about how this place is playing right now and I think it’s going to feed into our hands. Gosh. I mean, imagine that. Like the stats guy rolling into the golf course saying the one advantage you guys have, the one advantage you guys have is set up. I mean, outside of the fans, that’s the home field advantage. I know it’s changed a bit over the last couple of RDER Cups in terms of, you know, total control of the golf course, but you definitely have control. And the fact that you’re setting up a golf course to where their captains roll in going, “Oh, this is actually good for us.” is wild. Like, you talk about attention to detail. I mean, what are we doing here? Um, we’ve talked a lot about um negatives about the Americans. I do want to talk a little positive about the Europeans for a bit because I’ve got more on the on the American side. I want to talk about captaincy. Um, you know, and I wrote this on Twitter, I think on Friday. It’s just tough to beat a team that’s two best players are this good, this bought in, you know, and and and this kind of uh focused on what’s going on with Rory and John Rom. I mean, the fact that their two best golfers on their team seem to be the most kind of passionate about the RDER Cup is just something tough to overcome. I mean, you look obviously on the other side of things, I think it’s easy to say right now, Scotty and Bryson are the two best Americans with Xander falling off a bit this season. I just don’t get the same sense from those two guys that they’re totally bought in on this. I think Bryson loves the crowd. I think Bryson loves making a putt and and doing whatever the hell he does with his body when he makes a putt. I mean, sometimes his legs look like robots and then he, you know, he looks like he’s going to pull a muscle with his arm punches. But I don’t know if he necessarily loves the the event. I think he loves the the moments he can he can make and then what he can repost on the old IGs. But like Ro Rom and Rory, I mean, this is everything to them, right? And I mean, I think at this point in Rory’s career, you know, you’ve got two dudes in Rory and Rom, right? Rory at this point in his career, the only thing he wanted to do is win this thing. And he’s been saying it for two years. He he he wins at Augusta, completes the crew grand slam. What else is left to do? Be kind of the face of a of an away win on the on on on the RDER Cup, you know, in in terms of American soil, and he gets that done, right? He was focused on that the whole week. You’d see that. And then on John Rom, you know, playing on Liv is not playing on the biggest of stages. I mean, even if you’re a big Liv fan, you can at least admit that. The fact that John Rom gets this opportunity to do this, who who, you know, let’s be honest, Rom’s had one opportunity the last couple years to win a major championship. that was the PGA this year. Rom doesn’t get this level of electricity in his life that much anymore. For John Rom, this is it as well. And so you’ve kind of got these two figureheads that are the two best players that are two of the three best players in the world leading your team. Like that’s just such an advantage to have if you’re the Europeans. And I I think it comes back to their appreciation for the guys who came before them, right? John Rom talks about Sevy like non-stop and Jose Maria and how important those guys have been for him and Rory’s like obsessed with RDER Cup history. You think about even, you know, guys from Northern Ireland, Grant McDow, Celtic Manor as well, McDow being a part of that 2012 team, too. And I I look to the American side and what’s the RDER Cup history for the US? It’s it’s 1999 with Justin Leonard. He He’s not necessarily the presence that it wasn’t a performance. It was more like a moment that gets recalled with that or or Crenaw Crenshaw calling a shot the night before. It’s same same one though. I mean like like your your moments to your point, Patrick, I think it’s a great point are both from a 30hour run in one RDER Cup that happened 26 years ago. Yeah. And so I I think it’s I’m not going to say a lot easier for the Europeans to buy into the mission, but I I think it’s more accessible just given all the success that they’ve had, given the big names, the big personalities who have risen to the moment. It’s like, oh my gosh, if Sevy did that, if Jose Maria did that, like I want to do that. I want to be that guy in the arena. Like you heard Shane Lowry talking about in the fairway, he told his caddy, I have the opportunity to do the coolest thing in my life right now. and he did it. You you go back against the Americans, it’s like Tiger Wood once had a putt where he walked off the green and pointed to the next hole. That was probably his biggest RDER Cup moment or hauling out from the middle of the fairway. Jeff Overton hauling out from the middle of the fairway into Celtic Manor. Bet you weren’t thinking we were getting a Jeff Overton reference. 22 minutes mark and Josh that was an Overton call like that. That’s how that’s how brutal the US RDER Cup history in moments and performances really is because there there hasn’t really been much. And so I think someone needs to change that. Someone needs to obviously play like a big dog. The US players just haven’t. Your stars need to perform. They’re stars for a reason. And Europeans consistently do. Like Justin Rose got everything out of his game this week. Tommy Fleetwood is a freaking superstar in the RDER Cup. And then you throw in Rahm and Rory as well. In the US team, it’s always a reliance on a rookie or a reliance on a spark plug or reliance on not your best player in the in the world. And it just needs to change. I mean, I I think something you brought up earlier was such a great point about kind of the figureheads for these things, you know, and you obviously have Sebie, um, who’s, you know, the figurehead of the RDER Cup, right, across both teams. I mean, he’s the figurehead of this event. He’s the one that that kind of place this on the map as a real competition. And I think something you said earlier about the consistency of the captains, um, there’s a figurehead on the American side that was incredibly impactful for the RDER Cup and it was never brought back and that’s Paul Azinger. I mean, Paul Azinger approached the Ryder Cup like it was everything to him. The way he played, the passion and then as a captain, right? He was this guy that kind of rethought and revamped the way the Americans consumed the Rder Cup and it was just that’s it. He did it one time to your point and that and then like are guys calling him like or Keegan doing a FaceTime with Paul Ezinger and asking him the best practice you know I just he should have been the guy that could have been the template to follow to lean on. He should have been on the first tee all of those things. It should have been Zinger. It really should have and it just wasn’t. And I I mean I I used to work with Zinger. There was frustration out of the guy about not being that guy, you know? I mean, he he wanted to be the face of this thing. And the fact that it was like, “Hey, man, you did a great job. That was awesome. I love the fact that we won. Thanks for getting the most out of these dudes that shouldn’t have probably won that Ryder Cup. We’ll see you when we see you.” And uh it’s just a it’s just wild. like I almost feel like the fans and the media care more about this thing than maybe the the the people in charge do, you know, and so um it’s just wild. You know, the other thing I was thinking about, Patrick, I wrote down some names. Like I think something else that’s kind of important to bring up about the Americans is I was going through kind of the core people involved in terms of a writer cup. Okay. Okay. These are these are guys that and and I got a quote, Josh, if you could throw up that that Phil Mickelson quote. This was from 2016 about about Jordan Speed because Jordan Speed obviously was not on this team. This was 2016 Phil um talking about Speed and and you can obviously read the quote, but he said it’s time for him to take over the leadership role because he’s going to be the lead guy for the US team for many years to come. He’s going to help this team win through his play, but he’s also going to help this team by successful, be successful through his personality, his ability to get people to buy into what he’s saying. He’s very instrumental part of the US team this year, and he’s going to be an even bigger part in years to come. That’s Phil Mickelson on Jordan Speed. Obviously, speed his game is falling off. I think Jordan Speed is one of those players that’s that gets people to follow in his lead and and what he wants to do. I wish I wrote down some names, right? These are kind of the if you look over the course of the last, let’s call it 10 years on the American golf side. The names Jordan Spith and Justin Thomas, Ricky Fowler, Wills Alurus, Bryson Scotty, Morawa, Xander Canley come to mind, right? Then you had the guys that you felt would be a staple of this thing. DJ Brooks, Tony Phenol to name a few. You talk about dogs. I was writing down some dogs. Burger, Patrick Reed kind of dog type of golfers that Americans need. But then I even went further. I was thinking about some of like the great young amateurs on the American side and maybe those guys kind of getting into this guys that would have played like on Junior Ryder Cups and um Walker Cups and things like that. Um Cole Hammer, Ricky Castillio, Mad McNeely, Justin Sub, Raiden Thornberry, Doc Redmond, Doug Gim, um Tyler Straface, James Payatt, Sam Bennett, Gordon Sergeant, you know, guys that have have been successful in college and at US amateurs and at Walker Cups and those types of events. None of these guys are are making these teams. Mad McNeely almost did this year. But you kind of think about the pipeline right now of American golf, especially young American golf, and these teams are filled up with the same dudes, right? Yeah. And the turnover is kind of random. It’s JJ Spawn, who’s been great. It’s Ben Griffin, who’s been great, but that pipeline of the guys I think you kind of expected would be the next thing hasn’t really been the next thing. And when you get to these types of events, you really start to see it. Yeah. And even like, you know, no speed this year, no Kepka this year, no Reed this year. Uh go back to the President’s Cup team. Thala was on that team as well. He’s a guy who you you expected to kind of take that next step. Oshay Batia’s a type of guy kind of in the similar boat, too. Um to to your Paul Azinger point before, Shane, the guy wrote a freaking book about it and then they’re like, “Yeah, you can just take the money from the book. you’re not you’re not doing this. And then Keegan did text him about strategy in the opening session and he said, “You need to win that session by all cost.” Um, and so he obviously did not, but it’s just another example of the Europeans and how consistently they get it right with their guys. They they take the chance on guys who have been there and guys who have shown the ability to thrive in the moment and even though they might not be high ceiling players leading up to it, they turn into high ceiling players the week of it. And you know, I had a group chat buzzing off one because they had no idea what the envelope rule was and they were just completely bugging the heck out of me. But one point that was brought up was like, is anyone cheering for like Colin Morawa out there? The guy who was complaining about the crowds Wednesday during a practice round of course of all people. And they’re like, I feel like we know what Colin Morawa is, right? He’s a high floor type of player. Yes, he’s already won two major championships, but I mean that is just getting deeper and deeper into the past at this point. They’re like, “Why didn’t we take a chance on someone who’s going to bring electricity to the crowd, someone who could have a Justin Roseelike performance, could have an an Ian Poulter like performance where, you know, coming into the event they might not have the best form, but in the event they somehow find it, they somehow make every single putt.” And with your last couple of picks, like I feel like that’s a fair strategy. You’re not asking those guys to be the guy, right? You’re not asking them to play five sessions to go against the European’s best player, but what an added bonus it could be if they show up at the event and they are the guy, right? They do find it. And it’s really just uh you know, another example of the Europeans doing it better. Uh my my winners and losers, I just wrote down a few. Um all the Euros obviously Lou Donald um Fitzy, big win I thought for Fitzy this week. Um we talked about his record coming in seven and0. Um the the celebration from Fitzy especially early in that Bryson match where oh just calm down guys just everybody calm down like so Shane the moose was out here this week and he was like man I I just there’s something about that Fitzpatrick fist pump the low one from the side and he like the fist is interesting. Yes. He likened it to Marge Simpson, and I just I could not get it out of my mind every time he hit it. Well, I mean, a guy that chips cross-handed has to have an awkward fist bump, right? I mean, you can’t have like the tiger-like fist bump. It’s got to be a little bit from the a different direction. Um, uh, Sunday singles I thought was a winner. Obviously, Lowry was a winner. Um, my my losers, Beth Paige Black, all caps I wrote. Um, the fans, sports fans in general, Society I thought was a loser. Um, the Americans, uh, the Americans process at the Ryder Cup. Uh, Colin Morawa, by the way, Josh, you got the tweet, one maybe my favorite tweet of the entire week from one of the great people on, uh, on Twitter, um, our boy Bunky Perkins. Morawa had made a puck since social distancing. Just an unbelievable tweet and also very true. Um, you talked about the two major wins. Feels like it’s been a long time ago. Uh, and I got Scotty, you know, on on my list of of losers. You know, I heard a lot of people, Patrick, bring up the Scotty matchplay thing. Um, and yes, he has not played well in the team side of stuff. I think it’s easy to forget that at the WGC match play, he finished second, win, fourth in his three starts there. Obviously, you can play match play. Um, it’s just in terms of playing the the the foresomes and the four ball. It just hasn’t worked out for whatever reason. And I do think it’s hard to play with the best player in the world. I think we saw that with Tiger and uh and obviously now we’re seeing that with with Scotty for whatever reason that is. It’s hard to play with the best player in the world and it’s definitely hard to play when you don’t play correctly where they went off on the wrong holes in crazy the opening session. And it wasn’t even the captains who changed it going into Saturday. It was the Caddies, right? They’re like, “I think it’s gonna be better.” Yeah, that’s that’s what Scotty said after after uh in the loser press conference. He was like, “Yeah, Ted Teddy uh and Russell Henley’s caddy kind of started talking like, “Oh, it actually might be better if they they switch it a little bit.” Which is just like that that is not something that should be an oversight. Everyone on the property knew Scotty Sheffler should have been teeing off on the odd holes and then Russell Henley has his driver out on number one Friday morning. Like what is going on right now? Uh my losers this week, Shane, PJ of America is a really big loser. I think they’ve taken another step back. When you look at the four main parties in golf, the RNA, USGAA, and Augusta National, I I just they continue to just not be in their league in my opinion. And don’t take a picture of the rough. Whatever you do, don’t take Yeah, don’t take a picture of the rough. Um they were completely unprepared for what was happening. I think some people might have blamed the Marshalss a little bit for not getting it under control, but remember the Marshalss had to pay hundreds of dollars to be Marshalls, aka I would say 95% of them were like, I’m going to do this so I can watch golf for a cheaper price and be inside the ropes and have a good Exactly. Yeah. It’s not their fault at all, but the fact that they have to pay this is what you get. and the PJ of America back in 2013. I mean, this is this is what they wanted out of Beth Paige Black, right? They wanted the New York crowd. They wanted it to get rowdy. It definitely got over the line, especially, I would say, Saturday afternoon. It it felt like walking down the hill on 14 and kind of getting back across the road like a a WWE type of tunnel going going into the ring. It was insane. I I honestly I thought like they were going to start spitting on people. Was it I was going to ask you I wanted you to expand on Saturday in terms of the fans because obviously that was the big talking point. Um you know like you you read something that’s uncomfortable and you feel uncomfortable or you watch a video that’s uncomfortable and you feel uncomfortable. I mean were you was it uncomfortable? Like were you feeling like like did what did it feel like to you when you when you were kind of hearing the the the stuff that was being said? It’s one of those things where you just like want to look away and you’re kind of It’s I would say the comparison to me is when you’re at your friend’s house and their parents are just going in on them yelling and you’re in the kitchen table with them in the same room and you’re just petting the dog just you would want to be anywhere else. You don’t know what to do and so you find something. it like what they were saying was so cringy and I think what is lost on a lot of people and how this event is different in the viewing experience-wise of uh you know the players family and friends are the family and friends are inside the ropes too and so they’re hearing everything that is being said to to their husbands and I would say one just a complete lack of creativity throughout the week which was uh you know would like to better, but I think that obviously stems from the MC and maybe not getting the correct person for the job there on the first T. And there was just there was just no cheering for the US side. I would say 95% was hostility towards the Europeans just and I guess if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt. The Europeans didn’t or the US team didn’t really give them much to cheer for. But the cheering from the European fans was always like for the most part encouragement for their guys and the the US was just the complete opposite. But Saturday afternoon it was just it was very cringeworthy. It was very like dude what the hell are you saying right now? Um, and just like something you would never expect at a golf course and shouldn’t be tolerated at a golf course. Yeah. You know, I mean, it also didn’t work. I think that’s that’s probably something to take home as well. People realize when Rory Mroy gets chirped, that’s when he zones in. Has any like how do you not know that by now? Uh, I was thinking about this. I I recently rewatched the Last Dance and um when they the episode where they were talking about um the Bulls playing the Pistons, kind of the the early early Pistons when they kept losing to him and then you know that was the whole Jordan got everybody in the gym right after they lost that playoff series and the idea was to get tougher and to get bigger and to get stronger and uh I think it was Rodman that fouled Pippen when the Bulls swept him in I think it was 90 on their way to that first championship and Pippen didn’t react or respond and in that episode, you know, everybody that was involved like the moment he didn’t respond, we knew the series was over. You know, that you couldn’t kind of beat us up on the on the court and and it wasn’t going to affect us. We still were going to do our job. And that was that was my takeaway was every time something and again, I mean, it seemed like every two seconds somebody was crossing the line. Um, you know, it’s it’s like like my wife’s not a sports fan, okay? And the older we get, the more she’s confused by the idea of adult sports fans. Like, she doesn’t quite get it right. I’m not a huge sports fan. Like, I I love sports. I don’t really have teams I follow. I don’t really follow any pro team. And really, outside of my college team, Arizona, specifically the basketball team, I wouldn’t necessarily say I’m passionate about any sport. I I love watching sport, but I don’t follow the Texas Rangers or the Dallas C, you know, any of these teams, right? Um I don’t have that that passion that the sports fans have. Um and the older I get, the more happy I am that I don’t because this live and die by this stuff. And again, I also think people just like going out there just to be just frankly to be Like I think it’s like gives them a reason to be an And you see that this week specifically, but the idea of of just being mean to be mean because you bought a ticket to anything is just wild to me. And and and vile unnecessary stuff. Like this is kind of the whole ethos of this feels like it needs to change. I don’t know if it’s ever going to change or if there’s any way to change it. But the idea that you go to this place and you yell at human beings and say mean stuff like body shaming and talking about their families. It’s like honestly that’s why I was so happy for Shane Lowry. He’s getting all this stuff thrown at him for days and he gets to be the dude that makes the putt. Like good on him, man. Um yeah, Claire was all over this I thought all week about like the secondhand embarrassment of just hearing this stuff happen. But like you got to wake up on Monday and go to work, you know? like you you’ve got to go home and and like be a real person, you know? Like your friends aren’t laughing that hard at the stuff you’re saying. I just don’t quite get why this has become such a thing and why we’re just kind of okay with it. I I just I don’t know. It just it’s it really befuddles me in terms of the way we’re going about all this. I I’m just picturing Mikey on Long Island at the water cooler right about now. someone asking what he did this weekend and in his mind he’s like, “Oh man, I told Rory Rory Mroy to go f himself maybe 50 times on Saturday, if not more, among other things.” And then he goes to Denise in account and goes, you know, just a chill weekend. Hung out with some friends. Didn’t do too much. I will say one of the coolest parts, maybe the coolest part of the RDER Cup was after Shane Lowry made that putt on 18. He uh he threw some food in the crowd. I don’t know if you saw that. He had some like packets of pretzels or like little candy and just started chucking them in the crowd. Was it like a What was it for? Was it like here’s your snacks or Oh, was it like Well, he he was getting he was getting like the OMIC chance all that good. Yeah, I thought it was it was a subtle one where if you were were on the grounds all week, it was it was an awesome one. Um, no, I’m with you. And like this whole time, this whole week I was like asking people was like, how drunk would you have to be to just yell at someone like this? And people are like, I would never get that drunk. Like, I don’t think that’s in the realm of possibilities. And so, my passion for sports has definitely waned. I would say it peaked I don’t know like 5 years ago especially for the Steelers but at the same time the golf course is such an intimate setting where it’s so different. You’re only separated by a little thin rope most of the time and people are camping out to get the good vantage point to get the videos like you saw guys running with their phones out trying to get Rory to react to them like saying whatever. uh bringing up the players championship experience too with the Texas golfer like don’t take my phone. I mean I I became buddy buddies with Rory’s bodyguard this week. That was probably probably the high of my week. Um how was he? How do he look? Was it was he was he uh awesome. Andy is the man. I was thick thick boy. Oh, he is he is thick with three C’s. Okay. I want to say uh and there was a little pool going on around the property. It might have been in the European team room honestly. um among European people. I’m not going to say in the team room of uh what was in his backpack cuz there there is so much stuff in the backpack and he’s like I’m never going to tell you. I’m never going to tell you. And I and I I asked him I was like did you prepare any differently for this week and he goes and he’s like a a former I don’t know like assassin I think at this point just just throwing names on his LinkedIn. Yeah. He’s a mercenary pretty much. And he goes, “You know what, man? If a guy shot in under the ropes, knocked me down, you know what the first thing I would do? I’d get back up, shake his hand, tell him, “Good hit.” Like, “You are a madman.” All right. Got to love it. Um, but to your point, I don’t I don’t understand the uh the the yelling and like I just never really have. I’ve never been that I’ve never been that guy. Yeah. I mean, it hurt it hurts this event. I mean, that that’s the thing I think that’s a bummer is it doesn’t just hurt this event. And I mean, not to say Europeans don’t do it. I know Europeans were chirping as well. It’s not like it was just American fans. Um, but I don’t know. I it it makes me like this event less. I’ll say that. I mean, the idea that you can just go be mean to be mean because you spent 750 bucks on a ticket is wild to me. Um, a couple other things I wanted to say. I mentioned winners. Cameron Young obviously a big winner. Um, not playing him on on Friday morning was a big loser, but uh, he looked extremely comfortable. Um, in terms of just being out there, the the personality of that guy, you talk about a European personality, man, he was just chill, never really got up, just let me make couple putts, let me hit a couple shots close, let me win a point or two. Um, I I hope Cameron Young continues to kind of uh project himself in this direction because um I think this was the the first time I said this dude this dude will probably win a major or two, you know, with the way he’s able to kind of compose himself. Yeah. And uh to to see him actually show a little bit of emotion was awesome. And him saying afterwards that he’s he’s never felt this way on the golf course and how much he loved it. I I think he is definitely the winner from the American sides. I’m curious, Shane, is he like one of those guys where if his form’s middling, come next time, you’re like, you see what he did in the RDER Cup almost? Uh, you know, I I think that’s one of the things the Europeans do so well is they rely on those guys even when they’re out of form just because they bring more than just play potentially. Is Cam Young one of those guys maybe for you? Like uh a Justin Thomas to be in the future? Yeah, I mean I I definitely think going forward the idea of not just in form but comfortable in this situation is something to think about on the American side. I think Cameron Young is a player to consider. I think Max is a player to consider. I mean these guys that that seem to get what the point of this is and and how to how to maximize your abilities is something to really consider. Um, and I think those are two guys that if they’re playing decent golf in a couple years, especially on the road, um, with their mentality and and the way obviously home played in Rome, I I just think this, you know, you talked about dogs a few a few weeks ago and you talked about the the the big dogs and what was it? What was your ranking? I I think I want to go back to the big boy barometer cuz that version was much better, much more accurate by the end of the week. Uh yeah, the the the big BBB. Um you know, shout out the balls. But the the fact that there are guys that maybe aren’t playing the best. Listen, there there’s obviously a difference in stroke play golf in playing in this thing. There just is. I mean, that’s that’s something we’ve definitely learned this week is you can be a great stroke player and you can be a great Rder Cup player and those things are not the same sport. And Tommy Fleetwood has merged him a bit obviously this year with the way he played in stroke play golf tournaments, but he only won one tournament this year, right? Had an opportunity to win more. I mean, Tommy Fleetwood is one of the best Rder Cup players of all time, right? And he just understands what to do in these events. Rory’s become one of those guys. Rahm’s one of those guys as well. Honestly, Seap, I thought, you know, made a lot of really big putts this week and the way he was able to do stuff, not playing a ton of golf over the last couple of months. Shane Lowry, like on down the list, right? uh in terms of what it takes to play well on these things. The Americans don’t have a lot of those guys. I think if you I think honestly if it was me and I was in charge of this thing and Patrick Reed’s playing decent golf in a couple years he’s on the team. I I’m just saying he is like I want that guy out there. I don’t care what the other guys think. He can play this level of golf and he gets into it and it matters to him. Max is on the team if he’s playing decent golf. Cameron Young on the team if he’s playing decent golf. These dudes got to be on the team. You got to lose some of these guys that tend to go through the roses. Also, Patrick Kentlay on the team, you know. I mean, I know maybe Kentley’s record wasn’t great. What did he win? He went a point and a half, but I do think Kantley is a guy that that seems to to to man up at these events, you know, for the most part. So, the funniest moment of the week to me was uh was that final match on I guess it was I guess it was on Saturday, right? can’t lay and burns against Shane and uh Shane and Rory and they’re walking up the tea to number Burns Burns and Canley were playing Hatton and Fitzpatrick in the Okay. So, it was it was Friday afternoon then. Yeah. Walking up the tea to number 16 and the fans outside the ropes are pretty much telling Kantley to like murder people at this point. Like they’re like freaking kill Rory. Kill him. Like come on C. Come on. And he he’s taking none of it. And then these two guys say something along the same lines and he just slows his pace a little bit in the most matter effect tone. Can’t looks him in the eyes and just goes, “Thanks guys.” Continues. I’m like, “This guy actually might be a serial killer. He actually might be.” But like to your point, like nothing was affecting him from the outside. And obviously I mean he he missed a putt in that match on 14 that was freaking brutal was from like two feet in and that uh could have been a full point for the US but largely he has been so good in this environment where he just has the benefit of the doubt now and I think that’s a big thing. You got to go out there prove it and that should carry weight moving forward. Uh a couple other things about the week. Um shout out to everybody involved. I didn’t see one um annoyance about having to putt a putt. I didn’t see once hold the putter up. Um once one of the link things, never saw that from anybody all week, which is typically a staple of the RDER Cup. Um even there was a moment on Sunday with Scotty and Rory where Scotty Scotty had about a 20-footer to win the hole. Rory had about two feet for par. Scotty ran his by about a foot and a halfish. Mhm. and he goes kind of to pick it up and he looked at Rory and realized he hadn’t given it to him yet. So then he marks it, steps away. Then Rory gives it to him. He has to bend down and then get the marker and then Rory still had to putt his two-footer. I love those little things because everybody does it match play. Little subtle stuff you do even to your buddies you do it. Um I love when like the two best golfers in the world still do things like that as well in a more serious environment. Um shout out to the RDER Cup. just continued the tradition of Caddy’s wanting to fight. I love that. Oh, yeah. I think Catty should have to fight. That was maybe the moment of this Ryder Cup was um the video of Rose, like the close-up video they they showed later on. Rose was so annoyed. Oh, yeah. So annoyed. It was awesome. Oh, yeah. And then uh Ted Scott and Molinari Frankie and then the I mean they were in each other’s faces going up that hill. I think Ted Scott pushed him. I think there was like touching involved. Oh yeah. And then in the video the next morning on his Instagram where Molinari just looked like a complete hostage. It was a hostage situation at Beth Paige Black. Uh one of those things one of those match play moments for me there were two uh it was Canlay and Rory in that match I was following on 18 where Burns had a putt to win. I think Lowry had a putt to win and Rory had a putt to win and they ended up all missing. Uh they pick up Canley’s coin. Rory does because he he’s kind of like out of the hole at this point and he like goes up and Kentlay he’s on the edge of the green and he starts walking over but then he stops and he just puts his hand out. It’s like no you come to me before you hit this putt. Yeah, I like that. Um, and then another one is just like when they don’t give you a two-footer and you just you’re milking the clock, you go four corners, you look on both sides of the hole, you pat down a lot of things, fix a couple marks. Uh, and so I think a big loser this week from the US side was probably Joe Lava just because he wasn’t in that scrap. He would have been our guy. Uh, but I I don’t think anyone wanted to go against Feno and Tommy Fle. If you if you and I on the show last week, if id have said, “Hey, let’s list everybody involved in the RDER Cup that might get in a fight at the RDER Cup,” how far down the list do you think it would have taken us to get to Franchesco Molinari and Ted Scott obviously off the board with with the betting markets? Yeah. But is it in the 300s, 400s? Like I think I would have taken like Don Rehea versus I don’t know like is there a mas was there a mascot? Like maybe Colin Jo I think had a show. Maybe those two guys going at it. Like I don’t know where I would have had to go. But um that was uh those two guys. I’m like this is in like we have gotten to this portion of the Ryder Cup where Ted Scott and and Molinari are going to go at it. Iron Chef Bobby Fle. There were some Katherine Zeta Jones was in the mix a little bit. Uh somebody Miranda Lambert too. you fighting somebody? I had you out there. Somebody MJ uh I think the most random person I saw was the like the chief the crew crew pit guy for McLaren just seems to be everywhere. It was and he was running with MJ Circle, but I think on like the very outside he wanted it to appear that he was running at MJ Circle. Uh Frankie and Ted Scott would probably have been last round picks for both of us. I think Bryson would have been very high on the list. Uh Rose pretty high on the list. Keegan may be on the list. And he almost got in a fight with the referee with the Justin Rose thing. Yeah. Uh just in his ear all the way up the court like vintage head head coach behavior. But yeah, Frankie and Ted Scott very much near the bottom. Probably alongside uh who else was there at the celebrity? Uh maybe Eli Manning. He doesn’t seem like a scrapper to me. Yeah, Eli fights uh Eli fights Rory just just to get it going. Just a couple of guys that that that have hung a decent amount of time around Augusta National. Uh before we go, um I wrote a piece for Scratch that I think’s dropping today about the the the captain’s upcoming for 2027. Um a dare manner obviously on the American side. I think everybody agrees. If there’s anything we can agree on, um this probably needs to be rethought. um the the whole experiment in terms of the captains. I think you made some great points earlier about some level of consistency going forward where there’s a process here in terms of the captaincy. Um I I just think for American golfers going off the board here would be very helpful. I mean I threw out names in this article, Patrick, like Nick Sabin. Oh, MJ. Um Shawn McVey, Julie Ingster. I mean, I I just don’t think you have to have a golfer captaining the team. I I don’t know why we do that. I obviously it works for Europe. That’s great. Um, and I’m sure it could work for America as well, but golfers and fans love the idea. I think golfers specifically love the idea of other athletes and other sports and other team sports. I think getting somebody in that room that can lead is the number one job for whoever puts this team together going forward. I think that’s something that would be extremely important is find somebody that can lead 12 men to go be their best is I think one of the rules you should put on the list. I I’ll take it one step further. They need to figure out who is picking the captain because who is who is that? Yes. Who’s the committee exactly? Because I mean Seth Wall was still with the PGA when Keegan Bradley was named captain. And to me still the most bonkers things thing about this RDER Cup is that Keegan Bradley was not interviewed for the job. He did not have one prior phone call for the job. He was just hanging around and one day he got the call, hey bud, you’re the Rder Cup captain. And and why the hell not would he not accept that? And so that just that cannot happen. for for internships, Shane, around the world, you got to do case studies, you got to do behavioral interviews, you got to meet with stakeholders, you got to do all this stuff for internships, three-month gig. The RDER Cup captaincy needs to be interviewed in a completely different manner. The interview process, and I I think that’s like an issue as a whole, just all the processes clearly processes need to change. Yeah, sorry. It’s the consultant in me coming out. Um, we need we need some internal controls put in place at the PJ of America right now. And if they’re looking for someone to do so, you have my number. Um, if you’re looking ahead at Adair Manor, uh, it’s going to be a Listen, that place is sick. It’s so good. The the the golf course is going to be as good a a golf course as you’ve ever seen in terms of, um, like condition, if you will. I I would if you look at this team in terms of the Europeans to me I think the name that falls off likely is Justin Rose. He’ll be 47 years old. Uh I think if you’re Justin Rose and you’re not playing excellent golf leaving on this note anyway is probably the way you want to go out. Um I think if you’re looking at this team Rory 30 he’ll be 38 years old going to be on the team unless he you know unless he quits playing golf. Uh Bobby Mack will be 31 who knows. Fleetwood 36, he’ll be on the team. Uh Hoygard is going to be 26. I mean, who knows what the Hoy guards will look like in terms of which one makes the team if both of them do. Hatton will be 35 years old. I’d say as of now probably on the team, we’ll see. I mean, I think that’s a question mark. Lowry will be 40, but I mean obviously he’s going to have a lot of reasons to play well considering where the event’s going to be held. Um Seak will be 34, Ludvig will be 27, Victor 29, um Fitzy will be 33, Rahm will be 32. I’d say I I’m probably going to say nine or 10 of those guys are on the team again. Is that fair to say? Yeah, I think that’s pretty fair. I think you could throw in Nikolai perhaps. Uh McKibben, Tom McKibben would not be shocked if he is on that RDER Cup team. Raasmus Nearguard. Uh there’s a lot of young talent in Europe also that could easily come in and you know potentially plays replace Justin Rose or maybe a Substroka, one of those types. So yeah, I’m in the same boat. And then you look at the Americans. I mean, you know, you got the teams right here. Um Scotty’s going to be on the team. I think Xander on the team. Um you know, barring anything crazy happened. I think Bryson’s on the team. Uh same thing. JT likely on the team. I think Morawa’s probably on the team. I mean, despite the way he’s played golf, I mean, he he’s just going to the skill set he has is not going to allow him to drop out of the top, let’s call it 15 in the world. Um and then I kind of go to Kantlay on the team, Cam Young on the team. The question marks obviously are Spawn, Henley, English, Griffin, um Burns I think are kind of the question marks on who th who those spots are. And then to me that’s both the the mix of names I mentioned earlier. The Max Homs, the Patrick Reeds, and then some of the young guys like can Johnny Kefir make this team, right? The stud on the Kovven, can he make the team? I mean, um, some of the studs that are coming up in in terms of young players, uh, I mean, I think that’s helpful. I don’t know how helpful it is in terms of playing on the road, but I do think the turnover needs to happen on this squad. I just feel like outside of the qualifiers, if you’re a captain of whatever 2027 looks like, um, bringing in some new names or bringing in some blood that wants to be a part of this would be extremely important. And so I mean I think on the American side there’s probably seven guys that are on the team that from this squad and then maybe the the the five names are are turnover there. Maybe a Caleb Serat. Let’s get all of Legion 13 in the mix at the next RDER Cup. That would be have him play Rahm and Hatton in every match. Well, I mean they’d have three which which would be trouble for uh for Team USA, but yeah, I think they’d be able to overcome it. that that would be some history would be made. Uh I think you said kudos to you Shane. You did say at the beginning that this would be a transition year for the US team with a lot of the guys leaving. Um it’d be awesome to see Jordan Speed get back in the mix too just because that’s a guy in the team room people would listen to. And that that’s kind of what I was thinking about a lot this week is, you know, when when Rory and Rom are saying stuff to the these guys, all attention is on them. They’re not in their heads. they’re believing what they’re saying. And I I had trouble picturing that from guys on the US team. I I know Sheffler is like the guy in there, but not quite that personality, not quite that outgoing personality. Uh so they definitely definitely need those moving forward. I I will say one more story, all Justin Rose related. I was sitting on the 14th green. This nice woman sits down next to me. We start chatting. I’m like, “How’s your week going?” She’s like, “Great. I’m following my son.” I’m like, “Oh, who’s that?” She goes, “Justin Rose,” she talks about how proud she is of him for kind of keeping keeping at the grind even at age 45, all the hard work he’s put in. And he stuffs one. Mind you, this woman just had double knee replacement. She’s lugging around Beth Page Black following her 45-year-old son. He stuffs one on 12 up ahead and it’s on the big screen. She’s listening on the radio a little bit. I go, “Oh, nice.” And she just goes, “Showing off for mommy.” I love that. I love that. And then I told her, I told her, I go, “Well, you did just run into uh someone in the starting lineup of Team Rose.” And she goes, like her face was like, “Who the hell are you?” You’re like, “You know who I am? You watch on YouTube talking about you tell her how to do you tell her to smash that subscribe button or no?” No, but I was like, “I hashtag it all the time.” She’s like, “What? What is that?” Uh, all in all, I mean, good week. Uh, fun week, kind of disappointing week. Where were we at? Uh, it was it was a very eye opening week. I’m going to say that. Just with with everything that happened inside, outside the ropes, how the event was run, who was running it, uh, and the play itself. I would say eye opening is how I would describe it. Yeah, it was uh I would say as someone that was I don’t want to say I was rooting for the Europeans, but as someone that had predicted a European win um a European blowout, um I would say it kind of felt justified a little bit. Um, just because it just felt like I made that I I wrote about it and I made the comp on pardon my take and I will lean on this the whole Joe Buck story about that Broncos Seahawks Super Bowl and the production meetings with the Broncos and then meeting with the entire Seahawks defense and the production meeting before that Super Bowl and going, “Oh, this is there’s no chance Denver’s winning this thing.” And then Seattle goes out there and blows them out. That’s the way I felt leading into this thing. I mean, the Americans have some very talented players, but you can’t beat team, man. Talent doesn’t beat team, you know. And I think when you look at the RDER Cup right now, there’s team and there’s talent and team’s going to win 10 out of 10 times. And this is becoming a dominant run for the Europeans. It’s becoming inevitable. I know Sunday was Sunday and I know there was a charge late, but the markets I don’t think ever got, you know, in terms of below about five to one. Yeah. Um and uh and you know, you go back to the team side of things. If some team mentalities change on Friday, Saturday, maybe that comeback can happen. You know, if you don’t roll out Colin Morau and Harris English two times in a row, if you don’t have Scotty teen off on the wrong holes on Friday, if you put some people in positions to succeed, if you roll out a couple rookies on Friday and let them try to buck a bit right out of the gate. I mean, just some of the things that I think are important in terms of team and captaincy and structure and leadership. I think that gives the players an opportunity on Sunday. Maybe you’re four back and you have a chance to make that comeback. But the lead was obviously too grand um in terms of the way the teams played for the individual golfers to go out there and get it done. And that’s kind of what this RDER Cup is right now is the Europeans are 12 and the Americans are a whole bunch of ones. And uh that’s got to change or I think this is just going to continue. I mean, who’s picking the Americans in in in in Ireland? Like, what human in the world No, come on now. Like, what human on the planet right now would think the Americans have any a snowballs chance with what you’ve seen in terms of these recent RED cups on on on European soil? You know, it’s all like I I love the different definition of attention to detail for both of these sides where the attention to detail for the Europeans was Luke Donald making sure making sure the doors blocked out the light, making sure the the sheets were comfortable for these guys, making sure the shampoo smelled right in the hotel. And he he got all those right. That that’s how finite those details were. And then on the American side, the attention to detail was missing what holds the T off Scotty Sheffller on and missing analytically who who their worst players were. Yeah, it’s just like it’s incredible the levels to which Europeans would go and get it correct and how low level or pretty much high level the these decisions were and how wrong the US got them. You seem like one of these people, too. But I got to say, when I heard the shampoo story, I’ve been around Luke Donald a few times. I’ve spoke at a few events with Luke Donald, he screams a guy that knows where to find some nice shampoo. Like you kind of the same way. Like I feel like you’re you’re probably one of those people that smells solid most of the time. Luke Donald, great scent almost all the time you’re around them. That was no surprise. Also, a little life hack for people in the hotel. That little slit of light you get through the curtains. You know the coat hangers that have the clips for the pants? Oh wow. Pull that bad boy out, fold over the little slit, clip it on there. You never get the slit. Wow. That’s a little life hack for you. Also, I was going to ask before we go, Patrick, you got the hotel room with the two beds. Uh do you do the one bed is where you set up uh set up all your clothes. The other one’s the sleeping one. Correct. This was scripting uh and eventually dirty clothes folded up so you can separate them in the suitcase. This one was uh the sleeping one, but honestly, not too much sleeping this week, Shane. Another kurfuffle with the PGA. One last before we go. Uh so leading into the week, they said media shuttle times would be 30 minutes long. And if you go on your iPhone app and you look Beth Page Black from JFK High at Regency room 1040, I’m going to be out of here before people can come and find me. Uh it is about 30 minutes. But what they’d failed to realize was the shuttles that they used were massive buses. Pretty nice to their credit. But those buses aren’t allowed on certain roads here in New York. So they had to take a different route. And I believe most media members were on a shuttle north of half a day when it was all said and done uh with with the time that it took to and fro. So, just uh just another another me crying for my soap box situation. Going can I can we say going to golf tournaments? Coffee. The co the barista stopped at 10:00 a.m. too. What? Yeah, the barista stopped at 10:00 a.m. Unbelievable. Hey, at least you got a shirt though. There. There you go. That little That’s a nice crew neck. I like that shirt. Really nice crew neck. Be ready to use McDonald 20 at checkout. Yeah. Golly. Look. See, he got his plug in right at the hour six mark. Uh, everybody, we always appreciate you you paying attention. There it is right there on the sleeve. Patrick McDonald. Um, great stuff from a from a very interesting week at Beth Page Black. Um, I don’t know when we’ll be back. I mean, I’m assuming we’ll be back in a few weeks just kind of talking golf in some capacity, but this is kind of the last big event of the year obviously. And I mean, now we get into the FedEx fall. Uh if you are a golf fan, just a personal plug, we got Cornferryy Tour finals, last two events of the year this week and then next week backto back another two weeks on the road. Who are some big names to look out for? I mean Johnny Kefir, baby. He’s going to be the next big thing. He’s already in the mix. Who’s like uh someone Neil Neil Shipley? Uh you got Lampre. I mean you got all these dudes, man. I mean you got so many of these guys that are that are floating around. Justin S is a guy that I think is worth kind of paying attention to outside the top 20 right now. Obviously, former number one amateur in the world. And I think Justin S is somebody we’re going to be focusing a lot on uh over the next couple of weeks. And and you know, he’s a guy I think likes and has played well at the French League golf course, which is dude, one of the most banana tough golf courses in the world. They don’t even play it all the way back. Patrick, the 16th hole, last thing at the corner Tour finals at French Lick. 16 from the back T’s is a par three that’s basically an island that’s the size of let’s say pebbles seven green okay okay the back tee it’s 302 302 guys last year we talked to said that at times when the wind’s blowing left to right which would be blowing into the water would try to cut it in the water so then they could drop and chip on and make four is crazy crazy that’s a good golf hole That’s that’s that’s something. It is a golf hole. But uh yeah, we’ll be on TV in the next couple weeks with Corn Fairy Tour finals. Only 20 cards this year, not 30 like previous years. So, a little more stress in that space. But, uh the RDER Cup’s done. I’d say PJ tour golf kind of done for the year. I mean, obviously, we’ll have some FedEx Fall events. And um are you going to get a little time off or you just back to the grind, baby? Back to the grind. I was going to ask you, uh who can’t win the Sanderson Farm Championship? I don’t God I don’t know. Is anybody from the Ryder Cup in the field? Uh a few of them are playing. Is BG playing? The Alfred Dunhill Lynx. Oh, the Hoygar brothers, Josh said, are in Sanderson Farms. Uh and then I think Bobby Mack and like Hatton are in Alfred Dunnhill Lynx. The Dunnhill Links is such a sick event. It is. It sucks. It’s like the week after. I know. It’s like the It’s I’ve said if I got two two invites to golf tournaments across the planet, one would be the Masters and two would be Dunhill. Yeah, I agree with that. It would be awesome. Um, all right. You should play that pro next year. We’ll get on. Hey, hey, Josh, get on that. Let’s Let’s throw in a little uh sprinkle that in. Come on, Josh. Josh is like, I got 70 things to do. Think I give a crap about you guys. Um, but thanks everybody for uh for watching uh over the course of the year. This has been fun. We will continue to roll along at some point in the in the next few weeks. Patrick, have a safe travel day and we’ll talk soon.

Shane Bacon and Patrick McDonald are back to recap the 2025 Ryder Cup. A lopsided affair that was saved by an impressive Sunday performance. The guys discuss Europe’s masterclass, where the US goes from here and plenty more from Bethpage Black.

0:00 Intro + Patrick grades his week at the Ryder Cup
2:00 “Did you ever think the U.S. was going to win on Sunday?”
14:00 Are we losing what the Ryder Cup used to mean?
18:30 A European Masterclass – led by two of the best players in the world
26:00 What does the pipeline of U.S. golf look like right now?
30:00 Winners & Losers of the event + talking about the fans

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