ARE YOU PLAYING THE WRONG BALL? ProV1, ProV1x, -ProV1x, TP5, TP5x, Callaway Tour, Callaway Tour X

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We only use premium balls for all our fittings at SGGT but is there too much emphasis from players on distance over how the ball feels and how it flies? In this video Scott Fraser, James Wilson and Aaron Ellis focus on the feel of the flight of the ball – Which is right for you?

PREMIUM BALLS USED IN THIS COMPARISON
Titleist ProV1
Titleist ProV1x
Titleist -ProV1x (left dash)
TaylorMade TP5
TaylorMade TP5x
Callaway Tour
Callaway Tour X

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SGGT is known for its unique, detailed 4, 6, 8, PW iron fittings at our flagship Edinburgh and Chesterfield studios. Where as many fitters use only 7 iron to fit an iron set, SGGT goes through the bag to find you the best fit for your game.

Recently, a customer said he thought SGGT offered the “World’s Best Iron Fitting” at our flagship Edinburgh and Chesterfield studios. He challenged us to find anywhere else in the world that offered all this in iron fittings:

• Fitting across set 4, 6, 8 irons & PW. Not just a 7 iron.
• Completely brand independent so you’re guaranteed unbiased advice
• Largest heads/shaft selection in Europe. We have the biggest matrix.
• Premium balls – ProV1s etc instead of range balls.
• Your choice of grip – We’ll put your preferred grip on the clubs you’re testing.
• An opportunity to test off mats & grass, indoor & outdoor during the fitting. It’s the only way to see the true ball flight and test turf interaction. Plus you still get the benefits of our Trackman launch monitors.

We haven’t found anywhere else yet. So, is SGGT the “World’s Best Iron Fitting?”. We’d be genuinely curious to know so please do get in touch.

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If you’d like to experience an iron fitting on this level then contact our Edinburgh or Chesterfield studios – or book online at www.sggt.co.uk

SGGT has a number of great fitting features including
The biggest matrix selection of club heads, shafts and grips to ensure you get exactly what you want
Trackman launch monitors
Open bays so you can see the real ball flight
SST Shaft Puring to get the most out of your shaft
S3 shaft profiling
We’ll fit your preferred grip during fitting sessions
Iron fitting with 4/6/8/PW instead of just one club
Outdoor wedge testing including in bunker
Premium balls
Matt and grass testing

DRIVERS & WOODS – FULL RANGE including
Titleist GT1, GT2, GT3, GT4 Series drivers GT280 Mini Driver
TaylorMade Qi35 Qi10 Core, Max, Maxlite and LS
Ping G440, G430 MAX, LST SFT and 10K
Cobra DS Adapt, Darkspeed
Callaway Elyte, Ai-Smoke, Paradym, Max D, Triple Diamond
Srixon ZXi Driver
Mini-Driver, Fairways and Hybrids

IRONS AND WEDGES – FULL RANGE including
Titleist T100, T150, T200, T250, T350, 620, 722
Taylormade P7CB, P790, P770, Qi irons
Ping G440, G430, G730, i230, i530, i59, Blueprint T
Callaway Elyte, Standard, X, HL (high launch) and Max Fast. Paradym Ai Smoke, Apex
Srixon ZXi7, ZXi5, ZXi4 Z-Forged II, ZX4 MkII, ZX5 MkII, Zx7 MkII
Mizuno JPX925 Hot Metal, JPX 923, Pro 245, 243, 241

SGGT custom fitting service creates golf clubs that are personalised to you and your swing only. Using our own proprietary fitting system we can combine heads and shafts from all the leading brands to create the ultimate combination in one of our two tour fitting studios. The Lyle Studio covers the woods and the long game and the Hogan Studio fits irons and wedges. All orders are built in our own in-house workshop. You can also trade in your old golf clubs for new ones. For more information choose the fitting you require below and book online.

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Hi, welcome back to the channel. Welcome back to SGT. Today we’re going to talk about golf balls. So, in our fitting, we don’t use range golf balls. We use premium golf balls. If we’re a premium facility, we may as well use a proper golf ball at the same time. It makes a big big difference to to ball flight. And we’re going to discuss that today. Adam, we’ve got a number of different golf balls for you to try today. I think when we look at golf ball or talk about golf ball, I think it would always work from the green back the way. So you would talk about initially you need to like the feel of it when you’re chipping and putting. If you don’t like the feel of it, the numbers are irrelevant. You have to like the feel of it when you’re chipping and putting. Yeah. And from there it’s what do the numbers look like? And we’re trying to hit a window with shorter irons and wedges. You’ve got a seven with you today. So hit some shots with all the balls. You can let us know predominantly how the ball flight looks and how the ball feels to you. Um, I think it’s going to be less data today and more how it looks and feels and the differences between them. It’s all about what the ball flight looks like, isn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. All right, buddy. Where are we going to start? We’ll start with the tried and tested and we know what it does. Yeah. And the title is the Prov1 is what I use on the golf course. Okay. You use that forever. Yeah. Yeah. I’ve dabbled with Prov1X, but for where I play my golf, I just prefer on paper what that Prov should do. Okay. Um, and then chipping and putting like you say, just being a little bit softer than the Prov 1X. Prefer the feeling of it. I just prefer the feel of it. Yeah. Okay. Was Pro one out when you last played, James? It was indeed. Yeah. Professional 90. No, that was a good golf ball. Oh, remember it? Tata 100. That was a favorite. What was the ball when you were growing up? You remember? Uh, Top Flight Z Balatus. Top Flight Z Balatus were Hotflight Zatas. They were they were really good. And then Maxly Revolution. I I remember Max Fly Revolution, but Top Flight is showing your age there. Well, a bit. I like the Callaway Hex. Remember then there was a blue and a red. I remember them. I like the blue. Do you remember rule 56? Vaguely. Yep. I They were good to Right. Pro one has a few. Let’s just see how it feels. Let go and spin on that dude. Wall speed launch and spin. How’s it feel off the face? Yeah, solid. Just what I would expect. You know what you’re getting. Yeah, it’s is exactly what I like to feel. Um, using it for multiple seasons now. It’s Yeah, very familiar. Okay. Very familiar. I’ll do one more. Okay. Right. Prov1X. Let’s do it. So, James, talk to us about Prov1X. What’s the difference on paper between Prov1 and Prov1X? So Prov1X is a little bit higher launching. Okay, that’s not always been the case though, has it? It’s not It’s not always been the case. No, they they flipped them around flipped them around a few years ago. Um, so Pro1X used to be the kind of lower launching, lower spinning, then went opposite way. So it’s a little bit higher spinning, a little bit higher launching golf ball, but still still the firmer feeling ball. That’s not changed, right? Still firmer. That’s interesting. Definitely a little bit firmer, but that might have been something to do with the fact there was a groove low. It sounded firmer. Like joking apart, you could hear it made a different noise. A little bit amplified in here, which is good. You can kind of gives you a bit of feedback as a fitter. That was solid. That was good as well. I think golf balls one of these things it’s it’s almost like the last piece of the puzzle, isn’t it? So in in like an iron fing for example, if the goal is maybe to get that ball up in the air a a little bit faster, we’ve done everything we can with head with shaft. We’ve optimized there. Last piece of the puzzle is really that golf ball. Yeah. Yeah. Good shot. Sounded good. Yeah, I think decent hits. Okay. Right. Next golf ball. So, we’re going to go Prov1X left dash. What’s the story with this, James? Talk me through left dash. Spins a bit less. Spins a little bit less. Same firm feeling. Yeah. You tried this, Alan? I’ve hit a few. Yeah, I’ve hit a few. I bought a box on a on a whim. Okay. Um but again, I like that softer feel. So, this kind of feels more like a top flight. Well, it’s like a harder version of the Prov1X. Okay. Which, by the way, that is a feeling that some people like. Oh, yeah. 100%. It’s definitely personally something I don’t like. I think when they’ve done AVX as part of the premium lineup, I actually quite liked it on the basis that it felt really soft, but it killed the spin. Whereas, this is the opposite. It kills the spin, but it feels really fun. That AVX was kind of similar to the OG Chrome Soft, wasn’t it? Yeah. Yeah, probably. sounded firm. It was a good strike. I just pulled it. That Trackman will see that as a bit flatter because I pulled it probably. But okay. Yeah. Spin rate down 1,000 RPMs versus the previous one. Solid. A little bit clickier though, isn’t it? Yeah. It’s definitely different noise when you start listening out for it. Yep. See, you have decent strikes, pal. Hey, don’t sound so surprised. Well, I was trying not to be. So, in your defense, as our resident robot tester, between the three golf balls, launch angle remained very similar. Spin rate was the lowest on the left dash. It was the highest on the Pro 1X and the Prov1 in the middle. So, as we’re very on Iron Byron, you’ve done exactly what the website says, which I didn’t I wasn’t convinced was going to happen. Um, so all in all, pretty good. So you do see that there is a difference. Um, and I think it’s just trying to fine-tune your window and what you’re looking for. If you felt that you did spin on the high side, you can go into left dash as long as it feels good round about the greens. And then the opposite, you can play provid if you’re going somewhere, you’re going on holiday for a week and all the pins are kind of island greens, you can play prov and land it really soft. A big part of the reason I play that prov where I play my golf. Yep. And that’s a big conversation piece we have with people when we’re talking about their kit and especially the ball. Yeah. I’m playing links golf where it’s always tends to be a bit windier. So just being able to keep that flight down a touch is is key. Should we try offerings? Let’s do it. What we going first is TP5 TP5. Gracias. Tail made have kept the same naming convention for really quite a long time now, which I think is really good. Yeah, it helps. Um, after sort of chopping and changing every time they had a new golf ball, it was like pent. It was like penta TP. There was other TP golf balls. There was TP red, TP black. There was just so much ambiguity in that golf ball space for Taylor made that it’s clean. Definitely a lot cleaner. Much much easier now. I quite like this golf ball with the pics on it. What picture would you put on it? An OB stick. I I quite like when you’re putting Yeah. There’s something that I’m really bad when I’m putting I want to will follow the putter head whereas it feels there’s a lot going on with the ball that feel obliged to look at it. Yeah. Acoustically that was nice. Yeah, that felt really nice. Softer sound again, isn’t it? And with tailor made James, what’s the story with the the launches this highs and lows? Is the TP5 higher launching and spinning or is a TP5X the lower one? A TP5 is the is a slightly higher launching higher spinning. So you’d expect the X to be a little bit lower with the tail made. Yeah. So this is just a normal TB5. TB5 P. That feels really nice. Playing it well today. That feels really nice. Good. Nice and soft off the face, isn’t it? Yeah. We bit cuty that one. But still feels really solid. Okay, that’ll add even a little bit more spin, but yeah, off the face. That’s that’s really nice. Lovely. Right, the X a little bit firmer feeling. Definitely going to be hotter off the face, I think. Previously used by Rory Maroy. Big difference in sign there, wasn’t it? That was the fact you chunked it. No, that was all right. Really? That was all right. Out middle. I don’t know. Middle might be generous, but really out the middle. There you go. More like it. bike. How does it feel? I think it’s for me that feels harder to differentiate between than the Prov and the Prov1X. Okay. Um it’d be interesting to see what the if there’s any data to back that up, but Okay. Um from a feel standpoint, I think it sounded a little bit different. Okay. Which is the only thing I could I could tell you between the two. Um, from a number standpoint, ball speed was a hair quicker. TP5, I think you pretty much shanked one with TP5X. Launch and spin were very, very similar. So, the two golf balls, Aaron, how did they feel? How did they fly? What did it How was it? I think there was a there was a a little bit more par in them than the two tightest ones. Tightless ones, I could tell. Um, the TV5X certainly felt a bit firmer. Okay. Uh, just a hair firmer and probably looked probably looked like it came out a little bit flatter. Yeah, but I do I think it was a bit closer. Yeah. Good. Brilliant. Callaway James, what’s offerings? What Callaway do? Chrome Tour and Chrome Tour X. Okay. We bit harder to sort of differentiate between each one of these. They both have sounds a little bit daff, but they both have red numbers. They both look exactly the same. Um whereas like Titus golf balls, it’s a different um there’s a different color between like Prov1 Prov. Um and how does the TV5? So So the two golf balls, what would the difference be then? So, uh, the chrome, so chrome tour slightly higher launching, slightly higher spinning. Chrome Tour X slightly lower launching, slightly lower spinning. What causes that? Um, it’s a different s different core size. Uh, there’s different materials inside each of the golf balls. There’s different layers in in each of the golf balls. Okay. Um, just designed to do different things, different things. But like that’s that’s the same same kind of chat with all these golf balls. They’re all designed with a with a sort of purpose in mind. Okay. But I think again as we as we’ve seen, it’s really going to be down to that golfer like what what does the golfer need it to be rather than what does the golf ball say it’s going to do. Yeah. Let’s give this a blast. So this is this is Callaway Chrome Tour. You played Callaway before? No. No. I’ve had a box of chrome softs just to to test but never really put them into play. Okay. Um felt nice putting again really quite soft. Um but never I stuck with Pro. Okay. That was pure. That felt really nice actually. It’s really solid. Yeah, that was lovely. Bit skinny. It’s been like really well publicized about how much investment Callaway have made into like their ball plant. They’ve really really tried exceptionally hard in like last few years to kind of up their standard of product. Yeah. And it’s it’s it’s been really solid. So much cali ball on tour and Callaway guys use it. A lot a lot of Callaway guys will use the Cali golf ball. Yeah. Um I think there’s there’s like quite a few there’s really quite a lot of different versions. We we do uh you know Chrome Tour and Chrome TX in fittings that we can that we can go and test, but there’s loads of different golf balls cal we have. Okay. Since Xander won two majors with the Callaway ball last year. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Ram’s a Callie ball player as well, isn’t it? Ram’s a Callie guy. He’ll want a major with one of them. Really pure. That feels really nice. It’s fast. The set’s nice. Yeah, it’s quick off the face. Right, James, let’s try some X. Let’s see the difference. Let’s see it. Right, Aaron. Chrome soft X. So, this one’s a bit Sorry. Chrome 2X. Apologies. This is a bit firmer. Is it bit firmer strike? Yeah. Quick as well. Definitely feels firmer. That’s that’s the firmst of the really. That’s the hardest of the hard balls. Yeah. Like I I’d put it on a par with that left dash prov. But like I struck that a bit better and you could definitely hear it. Okay. Yeah, it’s definitely louder. I don’t mind that. That’s just a bit off the bottom. Yeah, a we touch. Maybe a half a groove low, but I still actually wanted to get up a little bit. Yeah, it’s done all right for what it was. I think those two Cali balls I would be more than happy to test those. Go to the short game area, do some chips, hit some putts, and Yeah. and see what they see what they feel like on the pattern green. Ah, good. Brilliant. Definitely worth trying, that’s for sure. Oh, yeah, definitely. So, all in all, loads of options to pick from. Um, I think from a numbers standpoint, we look at them, the numbers don’t vary massively. Yeah. I think from an amateur golfer standpoint, the likelihood is our swings will vary more than the golf ball will. Um, you see strike location change, ball flight dynamics have to change. Yeah. So, it’s more round about the greens. Chipping and putting I think is the big one with ball. How does it feel? How does it react round about the green? Does it spin? Does it do what you want it to do? Yeah. I think that’s the big one with ball for me. It’s find that one you like the feeling of. Yeah. I think I could I could if I’m having a conversation about golf ball with anyone coming in, I could I’m open to them using any urethane ball as long as they’re using the same one. Yeah. Again, we just want to try and reduce the variables as much as possible. If it’s the same ball, you’ve just got something that’s more consistent. The golf ball is the only piece of equipment that you use on every single shot as well, isn’t it? So, exactly like you said, using a consistent golf ball, you know what it’s going to go and do. Like when golfers sort of flip-flop and add in different golf balls or play whatever they might play on a kind of bounce game, but then it’s the medal and we feel we should use the top end golf ball. Golfers aren’t doing themselves justice that way. You’re not going to you’re not going to see what they need. Yeah. If you can play the same ball all the time, that’s massive. Thank you for watching. If you’d like to book for your own fitting um in the studio trying the premium golf balls down the drain during your session, please head over to the website at sgt.co.uk. For more content, please like and subscribe to our YouTube channel. Um and I’ll see you again soon. Thanks.