The Kiwi Who Beat All Odds – Ryan Fox’s INSANE Rise to PGA Glory, Chasing The Fox + Much More!

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We have a special one for you MVP’s, 2 time PGA winner, professional golfer, the kiwi to beat all odds, son of sporting royalty, Ryan Fox joins us in studio!… For the next 40 minutes we are chatting all things Golf from Chasing The Fox, to Ryan breaking down some of his most viewed clips to put us in HIS shoes, we find out for all your sneaky weekend golfers what the proper mulligan etiquette is, PLUS the boys have gone away to the driving range and Ryan has the task at analysing their form to lend them a helping hand, because he may know a thing or two…

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Ladies and gentlemen, it is an absolute honor to welcome our next guest. One of New Zealand’s top golfers ever in 2025 captured a first two PGA Tour titles uh in dramatic playoff fashion as well, earning a further 2-year PGA Tour exemption, a spot on the US Open, and pushed to the top 35 world rankings. Come on now. With a swing of the gods, the surname Fox is again forever immortalized in sporting folklore here in Alteror. The man, the myth, the legend. Give it up for Ryan Fox. That’s some intro, boys. I’ll give you Hey, welcome into Play on Sports Show. Um I guess off the top off the back of Mur’s words, uh firstly, congrats on the season that you’ve just put together. Absolutely. A pretty special season. Um, but you’re back. You’re back in NZ now and uh we are preparing and gearing up for a signature event on the local calendar. Uh, Chasing the Fox December 12th. How’s it all coming together, brother? It’s coming together very well to be honest. Um, you know, last year blew us away to be honest with um how it all went down. Um, you it was live on TB and Zed. We had 700,000 people watch on a Friday night. I’m just trying to make you nervous here. By the way, the gallery’s loud, by the way. Um, so like, you know, last year was a massive step up and then this year has just been all guns blazing basically. Um, you know, you’ve you’ve got the invite back for team warriors, which is pretty awesome. It it was one of those ones I was sitting there just waiting for it and I was like, geez, it’s going to be awkward if it doesn’t come. And then I sort of threw my hat in the ring of like, well, I could be team media now. Yeah, you could be, you know, like. So I was sort of like trying to open up like the invite the first the portfolio. Yeah. But I got a message off Nick and the crew and they’re like yeah team warriors it is. I said fine if I have to if I have to. Well you guys have got you guys have got one e. Yeah we got one. What what so we got one in 20? We is and you were a part of it. I was a part of it. Yes. Uh we had myself Wade Egan uh and Arwin Guten Bill and Wayo carried us but Arwin and I just come up with a shot when we needed it and it was that’s that’s the beauty of the format, right? It’s so good. It is so good. We’ve changed it up this year for us cuz the last couple of years playing our own ball has been pretty brutal against three guys playing Ambrose. So, we’re going to play with a partner. Um just don’t worry about don’t even go with that. Well, it’s it’s just to make it like it’s obviously it’s chasing the fox and if I’m even par through six holes, there’s not much chasing to be happening. So, so who you who are you going with? Um we’re we’re trying to work it out at the moment. Um, but we’ve got we’ve we’ve got a, you know, a pretty good cast of New Zealand golfers coming along. So, um, it’s pretty exciting stuff. We’ve got some announcements coming up in the next few weeks with exact teams and everything like that. Our first team’s been announced, which is, um, Nick Folk and Taco Golf, um, who are both Royal Oakland members, which is pretty cool. And Nick won on the Aussie tour um, earlier this year, I think. Um, and I’ve known Nick for a long time, known Tai or Taco for for a long time. So, it’s pretty cool to have, you know, two local boys involved and, um, yeah, we’ve got a got a few others coming, which um Jared over there is probably going to tell me the exact dates of when it’s going to be, but um, it’s uh, yeah, it’s it’s pretty cool this year and hopefully like it gives us a bit more scope for the amateur teams as well. Like we’ve felt in the last couple of years, we’ve had to manage the handicaps cuz if you get three three guys that play a lot of golf, low handicaps playing Ambrose, it’s pretty hard to compete with that as your own ball. So, we’ve tried to have like maybe a higher handicapper in there to to bring it down a little bit, but this year we don’t have to worry about that. I think that’s where we got away with it a couple of years ago. Yeah. You guys had three good golf like Yeah. Yeah. That that that because Wade’s what? Wade’s like three. Wade’s off a three and then Yeah. sort of five or six. No, no, I’m an 11. And then Arwin was like a 13. Yeah. Okay. But you’re 11. I I I would say like I would say you’re a dangerous 11 then. Couple up your couple up your dangerous until you got hit in front of 700,000 in a gallery. That boys I tell you something. All right. Standing over a golf ball hitting at the driving range. All right. As we know, even that has its challenges. That’s one thing. But I tell you what, lining the ball up, getting in your stance, getting set in your position, you can see people out of your peripheral that are in front of you, I actually had to step away from the ball once and just pull them back. Okay, hang on, Hannah. I I’m just going to I don’t feel comfortable right now. You guys have actually got to get behind me. And they all scattered straight away. They didn’t muck around. They didn’t muck around. So, it’s an awesome event. So, if you’re in town, uh yeah, December 12th out at Royal Oakland, come along. It’s It’s honestly, boys, it’s a day. I’ve got a question for Ryan. Out of all the amateurs that you’ve you’ve uh you’ve had on, you know, on the Chasing the Fox, is there anyone in particular that stands out as you’ve been like, “Oh, we surprised you.” Uh Mitch Sant is the obvious one. He’s on like plus three or four or something like that. Like he is properly good. Like really really good. He he hit a shot I can’t remember what year it was. Um and like we play the first as like a little driveable par4 when it’s when it’s downwind. Um and he like whoever was in the team hit it like 30 short of the green and he’s got this nasty little chip downwind down a slope which you look at go well a good shot here is like 10 12 feet and Mitch Mitch has just hit this little like checker in there and it’s just like perfect top of the slope rolled down to like kicking distance and you’re like like that’s a it’s an it’s a tour level golf shot there and talking golf has me I’m I’m I’m mesmerized listen Is he back this year? Uh, I think we’re still We can’t say Oh, hang on now. We don’t Yeah. Yeah. It’s looking It’s It’s I’m getting the thumbs up. It’s looking pretty good. Like he’s I I mean, he he fizzes on it as well. Like he loves golf and he’s I think there’s something in there that wants him like he wants to give it like a bit more of a crack, I think, when cricket finishes up. Obviously, he’s he’s pretty damn good at cricket, too. Um, yeah, he’s like he’s one of the guys that’s like, “Wow, he he’s actually he looks like a golfer.” Yeah. Who was like, “Wow, he doesn’t look like a golfer.” Here we go. Well, you got up there and you went, “No, that can’t the the obvious one over the last couple of years has been David Seymour.” And but but like I I want to I want to clarify this from what you said earlier, right? like you play you play a decent chunk of golf and you’re standing up there and you’ve got to back away because like you’re a bit worried, right? I reckon David’s played three times in the last three years and that’s at chasing the fox and he gets up and puts himself out there and has a great time doing it. He just swings and he just swings at it and like he’s hit a couple of good shots and the crowd goes nuts for him and like that’s impressive to be able to like have that much belief in yourself that like you’re not worried about anything else. Like he just gets up, has a bit of fun. He’s like, “Yeah, I’m just here for the experience and if I had a good shot, great.” And yeah, like you can see he doesn’t play but he’s more than happy to give it a crack and that’s I think that’s awesome. That’s what it’s about. There you go. Chasing the Fox December 12. Uh if you’re in town, make sure you get around it. Yeah, 100%. Hey, um before we just crack into this uh a little bit more of a light-hearted stuff, just touching the season you’ve just put together, you must be returning home with a bit of a smile on your face. Yeah, I mean like I I ticked off probably every goal I wanted to tick off for the most part. Like I to getting into the tour champs was probably the only one that I kind of missed out, but like you know at the start of the year the biggest goal was like win and get in that top 50 in the FedEx Cup. Yeah. And I did that. Got back in the top 50 in the world, you know, got all the majors by the US Open for next year, guaranteed all the big events for next year. And then Wow. Like it’s always been a dream to win on the PJ tour like it’s not often you get to like tick off a dream like and do it do it twice six weeks or whatever it was. Like it was and like Myrtle Beach was amazing. Like your first one’s always epic, but then to go again in Canada in like a a proper full field event, strong field and like I looked at the names on the trophy when like I I picked it up. It’s it’s 120 something year old trophy. Who was on there? Well, Arnold Palmer was Yeah. Like I’m I’m pretty sure Jack was on there. Um that’s pretty good. Tigers on there. He won. He beat Grant Weight, another Kiwi and had that iconic shot out of the bunker in like the mid 2000s and you’re like, “Okay, yeah, this is pretty sweet.” Like it things don’t just happen, right? You you say it’s a dream to win on the the tour. Can you put it down to something? Why why this year was the year it clicked for you? Was there was there an offseason? Was there something you changed? Was it There was a good offseason last year. Like uh I was I struggled with a hip injury all last I tore my right labum. Okay. And it was a weird injury. Like I never had any pain. I just couldn’t do what I wanted to do golf swing wise. Like I I I couldn’t like hold an angle like without trying to get too technical like I’d fire my right hip real early and come out of the shot most of the time which is not good. And then got in bad habits with that. And then like I scraped in to keep my card and then got that sorted. And then sort of this year, I didn’t have any of those issues. Like I did a a real good like offseason rehab, um, treatments, all of that on it, and managed to avoid surgery and went into this year and like I was still fighting the bad habits, but the like I could actually get my get my swing to where I wanted to do once I got rid of the bad habits and like it just it clicked. Like I was a bit more familiar with the golf courses this year. Like second year outs in that sense is easier. We were based in the States rather than travel around with the kids, which is, you know, pretty hard. Yeah. Um, so yeah, like it we did a whole like a whole lot of little things just made it easier. And um, yeah, like I’ve always been all right in contention. Like you give me a sniff and I feel like it’s it almost simplifies things to an extent. It just goes, okay, I’ve got to hit it there and you don’t worry about all the other external stuff going on. And that’s what I did. I gave myself two sniffs this year and got it done on the on Sunday. Is there a weight off the shoulders? For the second one there was, right? Um it was funny the like the first one I’d been more nervous coming down like other tournaments trying to get decent results and then all of a sudden like with six holes to play I’m like I’ve got a chance to win this like basically sack up and you know put put your big boy pants on and let’s get going. I got the stretch that I was like, “Ah, this is what it’s supposed to felt, you know, really good for the like the rest of the year in that sense.” And then like in Canada, you know, I wasn’t worried about anything coming down the stretch again. I was I’ve got a chance to win this golf tournament. Like I got to make some birdies down the stretch. I’m not what like I wasn’t worried about the paycheck, what it got me into any of that stuff. I’m like, I know I’ve got status going forward. Yeah. Like kind of playing. Oh yeah. You got me sitting there. We’re gonna we’re going to touch on some of those golf shots actually a little bit later on. I love the idea too of you walking down the fairway going sack up. Yeah, pretty. Come on. Pretty much. I mean, I probably said a couple other words in there. I I somehow have not been fined on tour either. My my language ain’t great at the best of times and like they do have some hot mics out there and I’ve never never got that never never got that envelope in the locker saying, “Yeah, here’s a um couple of grand fines.” The Americans would be amazed though. They’d be like, “Is he trash talking?” He’s trash talking himself. Sack up. He’s talking to himself. To be fair, I played uh at Wentworth like a few weeks ago with the first two rounds with Terrell. Ter and Bob Mack and like you watch those two and you’re like there’s nothing I can say on the golf course that gets close to these two. It’s it’s kind of it’s and they’re both like you can laugh at them. Like it’s it’s actually Yeah. Hatton’s one of the good ones, boys. Oh yeah, he’s a realist. He calls it what it is. It’s so good to watch. refreshing to watch. Uh Brooke, should we get stuck into this next little bit? Yeah, let’s do. Okay, the first thing that we want to do, Foxy, is build the perfect golfer. All right, so we got a whole bunch of shots and I just want to see uh they could be retired as well. They can still be playing or they can be retired. I’m going to build the perfect golfer. And you can choose yourself. I’m Trust me, I’m not going to choose myself if I know where this is going. All right. First, we need the swing. Um Adam Scott. Why Adam? Why Adam Scott? It’s It’s a toss up between Adam Scott and Rory. Yeah. I thought you would have gone Rory, but Yep. Adam Scott. I don’t know. Scotty’s like it’s been so good for so many years. Um and it I feel like Rory’s golf swing it’s it’s really good, but it’s like his is like his is quite unique to him. If you slow it down, he gets in some positions that you like you look at for other people like there’s no way I can get hit the ball from there. Whereas Scotty’s is like I love this pure just pure like textbook. I played a bit of golf with him over the years and you just watch it and you’re like yeah it’s he he’s got a lot of things going for it for him. Adam Scott, you’re just like this is not fair. All right, so we got Adam Scott for the swing. You get to the tea. Who’s got the best driver? Rory. Oh, don’t even think about it. Don’t even think about it. It’s night and day. He hits it. He hits it miles. It’s like it’s optimal. like all his numbers and like are perfect. It launches high. It doesn’t spin. It’s aesthetically pleasing. It doesn’t move that much. Like he can move it both ways and like I don’t think there’d be there wouldn’t be much argument from the guys around on tour who’s who’s who’s the best driver in the game. Rory’s going to be. All right. So Rory, just a real quick question, too. Um do you is there how do I say this? Is there like a general rule of thumb that if you’ve got a long drive the likes of Rory that you’re better than like is it like does there a pecking order when it comes to golf and who can drive it the longest and someone like a Rory is so perfect like there’s actually guys that hit it quite a bit further than Rory now as a young South African kid called potter yes bro and I played with him in Scotland this year and the first drive he hit I was like you’re he’s a big boy Ive far yeah I’ve always hit it far like I don’t hit it as far as I did 5 years ago, but I still hit it. I’ve still got enough speed and I get up on the first in Scotland, hit a good drive, hits a good drive. He’s got me by 40 yards and I’m like, “This is not fair.” Like, he’s 20 years old and he’s like, “Yeah, he like he’s got the rugby player build from South Africa.” Like, and you like, but Rory in terms of driver, like he drives it really straight. He’s really good under pressure with it. And as I said, it’s just optimal. Like, he he hits it high. It’s just it’s just good. Yeah. Okay, we got Rory. I’m going back into my bag here. Irons. Scotty Sheffler. Sweet. Didn’t even think about it. Like I I I like it would be a toss up between Tiger and Scotty. Yeah. But just for the recency thing, like Scotty’s Scotty does everything well. Like if you look at stats wise, he’s picked up his putters got way better this year. But in terms of um yeah, his his iron play is it gives hope. It gives hope to everyone who has an unorthodox swing, stance, everything. Sometimes just ball striking will carry you a long way. What is it about the bloke that when you’re up close with him, you just going that consistency when his swing and his follow through can somewhat change? You know, like I I just Is it a feel? Is it he he just got like such good awareness of where his club face is? So like, you know, he like he can he can he can save it like when it’s a little bit out. He’s got a real good idea of like and I mean you think of how fast everything’s moving. Yeah. Like it’s pretty hard to have some idea down here of oh I’m a little bit this way or that way. He just looks like he’s got those corrections. He’s got he’s got it there. He does it under pressure. And like the thing with Scotty is like he always seems to hit the right shot. Like if he has to hit a little fade, it’s a little fade. If he has to hit a draw, it’s a draw. And it always goes the right distance. And that’s the most important thing with your irons like and Tiger again was unbelievable that the right shape, the right distance like and then could do like Tiger probably had more of the freaky stuff like you know like crazy shots around trees and like out of fairway bunkers and like Tiger hit all the highlight shots and then he was really consistent of moving the ball. Scotty’s just like he doesn’t he kind of doesn’t hit it in trouble so he doesn’t have to have those crazy good shots but Scotty just hits it feels like the right shot every time it comes out the right window it goes the right distance it’s just it looks easy chef’s kiss uh wedge please sir yes short game sevy who sorry old Spanish byos okay we’ll look that one up we’ll get a graphic on that bad boy is he uh is he on the tour no no sevy He passed away about 10 years ago. So he he’s like an iconic y iconic European rider cup, iconic European tour player. Okay. Um won how many he won at least six majors, I think. The Masters. Um hopefully I’ve got this right. He won the Masters a couple of times. He won the British Open a couple of times. He was he was God with a wedge. Yeah. Um so he’s Yeah. like he got check that out. And in terms of in terms of current guys, um it would be pretty hard to go past Scotty Jeff. We got two of them at the moment. I thought I thought we might be coming down under maybe a little bit of Minw Cam Smith as well. Cam Smith goes I mean there’s Yeah, like but in terms of like Scotty you see some old shots of Sevy like chipins from Yeah. Like he was always a bit erratic and he hit amazing like a radic off the tea. Used to had amazing iron shots around trees and he’s got chipins to win tournaments and he did all of it old school with a sandwich. No lob wedges sight and stuff. So he was Yeah, he was all right. There we have it. No, no, no. Last one. We got to get to the green. The green. The putter. Um uh like I’m going to go old school again. It it would probably be Brad Faxton. Brad who coaches Rory um and Fax is re like always renowned as being one of the best putters. Wow. Like ever. Um a lot of guys on tour like lean on him for couple of tips here and there. Current guys and this might not be right now but Jordan Spith. Yeah. Like if you look at Jordan Spike like 2015 to like 2018 that dude was a freak. Yeah. So, like the amount of 30footers that guy hold was just unbelievable. I think at one stage on tour he had like from 20 to 25 ft he was holding almost 25% of them for like a a whole year and second on tour was like 8%. He was three times better from that distance than the second best than the second best player on tour. Work work on your puttering. Work on your putting golfers out there. We all get to the driving r want to hit driver all day. Yeah, that’s more fun though. Let’s get to the green and start rolling some. Okay, one final thing. I want to do ball as it lives. So, just as quick as you can. All right. Uh, let’s go. Favorite tournament? Masters. Toughest course. Uh, oh. Um, where was the US Open this year? Um, Pokémon. That’s the one. Career highlight that threewood. Yeah, it’s probably you’re going to put on on that. So, this is a great segue. best to drink with on the tour. Um, I don’t know if anyone saw that Terrell Hatton story, but he’s pretty good. Andy Andy Sullivan on the DP World Tour is great, too. Andy Sullivan. Yeah. Yep. Final thing. When when you’re playing, I don’t know if you’ve ever played with Shawn, but what’s gimme etiquette, cuz Sean’s taking things from here. Gimme etiquette is whatever the opposition deems it to be. Okay. So, here. You can’t you can’t selfdeem the etiquette. It’s got to be No, it’s got to be like there’s like there there’s there like there’s a caveat to that. Like if you’ve got a sixfooter for double and it doesn’t matter, I’ve got no problem being like I’m out boys. I’ll pick it up. That’s fine. But like if you’ve got a three-footer for something that matters, you can’t you can’t be like, “Yeah, bro. This is good.” Like you have to you have to be given that. Yeah. jot it down, buy a ball. It was quite refreshing to watch the rider cup and like seeing like what was good, how they’d make him wait out, stand over the ball for a little bit. They’re like, “Nah, it’s good, mate.” I I did it to a mate of mine. Um, we’re both playing for New Zealand, a guy called Ben Wallace. Yeah. And it was a New Zealand AM and this is like 20 years ago, and he was the best putter I knew at the time. Like, he’d always we’d have like putting comps and he’d beat everyone like his short game was amazing and he’d like rolled it perfect. And I remember not giving him one like this far in the quarterfinal. Uh, and I ended up beating him that day and like he was harping on at me about not giving him that putt for months afterwards. I’m like, well, it obviously worked, didn’t it? Like I knew like I I knew you were going to make it. I just wanted to piss you off. And it did. Like, so it’s Yeah, it’s completely up to Yeah, I like it. I like it. And you should you also should like if you got a putt for an eagle or something like that, that’s cool. Like you should you should want to cut it. You should want to make it legitimately like I mean if it’s that far maybe not but n tap it in mate. Tap it in. All right let’s get stuck into this next little bit. Uh the third fourth whatever it is final thing this morning with Foxy. Uh Foxy we do this thing here at Sean Hub where I usually would sit here and break down some footy plays but we ain’t doing that today. We got you in the hot chair. So we wanted you uh and this is one for the golfers out there. Here you go my golfers. Listen in. Uh we essentially have a couple of clips uh stacked up here and it is from the RBC Canadian Open uh where I would just love your thoughts. You’ve touched on it briefly, but more the back end going down 18th. Uh so the first one we’ve got is essentially your approach shot on the 18th. Now you needed to birdie the last to force a playoff. Y you take it away from here. Yeah. So, I think I was like I had to lay up to there cuz I it was just a bit too far and you knew it was an easy wedge shot in there. And I actually hit this exactly where I wanted it to and thought it I thought it would I actually thought it would come back a little more than that. Like it was into a decent wind. I hit it like again I hit that wedge shot exactly how I wanted. It was kind of turning in on the wind a little bit and it just didn’t come like Yeah. Like I was trying to land it five past it. He didn’t want to be short cuz it can there’s a chance of it coming back in the water. And I just thought it would zip back to like you can probably you can see the marker there like somewhere yeah halfway in between you kind of like okay yeah that that was kind of where I was trying to hit it and it and those are how small your windows are. So you’re when you’re standing over that ball you’re thinking straight away okay definitely don’t be short. Yeah. Yeah. If anything be a little bit past and then you’re relying on your spin to zip back. Yeah. Oh, it’s kind like for that shot, you just kind of you just know like there was a little back stop behind it. Everything kind of came back like and that’s not necessarily in your thought process while you’re hitting the shot. That’s in your thought process of picking the club to hit it. And I just had like a I had a good number. I can’t remember what I had 90 odd in there into the wind. It was just a sand wedge and just trap it and just hit a little draw in there and you’re like it should spin and it just didn’t spin quite as much as I thought. Do you know on contact that you’ve done you’ve hit the shot? Yeah, pretty much. away to feel. Yeah, that’s it. How good is it? Uh, standing over this part now. You need to sink this. How far is that? 7 16 17 ft. Okay. And this is to force a playoff. Um, you’re clearly in the groove here. And one thing I will say about watching you play is that you’re a no frrills type of golfer. You don’t think it seems like you’ll just stand over the ball and deliver at times where there’s a few players on tour on tour that will address come back address combo with caddies, combo with caddies. From what I’ve seen is you just like to stand there sometimes and just make shot. Yeah. For me like I I think early on like my old man when I first started playing golf was like I’ I’d be a tag along so I had to play fast. So I just kind of carried that on. Yeah. And then it’s just got to a point where like it’s not that much to think about, is it? I got to start it here. Okay. Bang. hit it like I like the less the less the less time I’ve got to think about it the better. Yeah. Okay. So, this was moving left to right. Right. Just right to left. It was a little a little outside right and to be honest about here I was like no this is missing low and it was obviously really good speed and I was I was I was surprised it hung on to that left edge. Yeah. Um and then I did my shitty little fist bump again. Celebration. Are you working on that or No, like I it’s it’s never been me. Like I don’t like I I’m not one I reckon I’ve probably fist pumped like five times in my life. Maybe had a couple of like these when it’s like you make a six-footer to make a cut on a Friday afternoon. And then I had I had I had a pretty bad one at Wentworth when I won and that one wasn’t much better to be honest. I love that. All right, let’s jump forward now. Um, just before we play the clip out, you and Sam Burns go into a playoff here and you play this hole this like three or four times, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, this is fourth time down and you hit a beautiful drive up the center and I actually watched you uh get your three-we out maybe on the second time or third time down and you just left it a little bit short. Yeah, I had a bad one the second one. So, I was a bit left of that and they changed the pin which was the first time they done that on the PJ tour. So, we had a back left pin in regulation the first two PL poles and then it went to front right and I had to go from like the left side to the back left trying to I had to turn it a little bit around the tree and that’s not my most comfortable shot and I just kind of I left it out right and hit it [ __ ] and I was like, “Oh, that’s probably in the water.” And it landed right of the water. I was like, “Oh, yeah, that’s fine. It’s not a bad chip.” And then it kind of ran around and you hear the crowd go, “Oh.” And I’m like, “Oh, no. Oh, no.” And then you hear them go like cheer a little bit. So, it stayed up. And then this one, it was a funny one. Like the back pin was easier to get to with a wedge shot. And then the front pin was a pretty hard wedge shot. You could spin it back in the water. There was a big false front there. And it was almost an easier shot to go at the green like from here. I had a really good number. It was like what that 260 yards 258. What’s that? 230 230 m. And it was into a pretty decent wind. It was just like I just got to cut 3-wood. I cut 3-wood. Okay. I’ve just got to cut 3wood. Okay. So, you’re standing over this ball feeling pretty good about the shot. You’ve got the number you want. Yeah. I’m pretty sure our conversation between me and Dean, my caddy was like, um, can I get two eye on there? And he’s like, no, it’s got to be three. I’m like, I just got to cut it. Then he’s like, yeah. Then that was our conversation. That was it. Less is more sometimes, right? Holy. And and start line here. Do you have start lines? Are you Yeah, I was just trying to hit a little cut. I was trying to hit a little cut. So, it was probably like the edge of the bunker underneath my chin. Y um and then just trying to hit like a little cut. And I knew if I bulleted it, it was like it was going in the back bunker, which wasn’t that bad. And then if I cut it a bit too much, it was just going to be short right of the green, which is actually not a bad Yeah. like miss. Yeah. And then Yeah. I hit this and it was like So, so standing over this ball, you’re in your own. You’re not obviously I’m just trying to hit a perfect shot, but like the decision making before all of this is like threewood’s f like the two shots. Like I’m probably going to hit three shots out of that unless I obviously completely but like I’m either going to like flat it through the wind like just basically hit a little pull and that’s going to end up in the back left bunker and that’s all right. Like if I I’m trying to hit a cut and if I kind of let it go a little bit too much. It’s going to end up like in line with that right bunker somewhere and I’m just pitching it up the green and it’s not that bad either or I can hit a good shot. The shot of your dreams. Yeah. I I have a question that people probably wouldn’t ask in in this situation. Oh, good lord. Here we go. What’s the difference between the like the the the amount you win between first and second place? Um, and are you thinking about that in this moment? No, not at all. Not at all. Not at all. I’m thinking about win right there, too. No, like it was an out what first prize was like 1.7 US and then Hell yeah. Well, like I can cl like I probably need to clarify that because that’s what gets quoted in the media, right? Like we don’t get anywhere. This is a great point. Yes. So, like when I say Scotty Sheffield would collect 4 mil from the masters or whatever, it always like that always pisses me off a little bit because like we’re one of the only sports where it’s like completely visible, right? Like this is your prize. But like I’ve got a bunch of people on percentage. Obviously there’s a decent chunk of tax Yeah. associated with it. Like if I get half of what I’m I would I’m doing pretty well. And I’m not saying half of what that was is is bad by any stretch, but it’s like you see 1.7 mil, you’re like, damn. Your family sees 1.7 mil. It’s it’s it’s not. And like, you know, we’re different than a lot of other sports, too. Like we cover all our own expenses for stuff. Yeah. Really? Like Yeah. I mean it like if I went through all my expenses for this year and granted there’s a whole lot of stuff that’s percentage based on prize money. So the more you make the more you pay out but I’m like way north of a mill. Yeah. Yeah. And what I’d like So it’s you know it’s not like yeah I get a salary and everything else is covered like you know I’ve got to do like yeah all my travel expenses my like my family traveling all of that physio coach caddy um management like Foxy is there anyone in particular like out of your old school friends that needed that that’s directed at? No no they all know but they just raid my wine cell. Hey, and that brings me to the point before we just watch the shot. Lydia Co might need that thousand bucks from, you know, your tight ass. Yeah, you know what I mean? Okay, back to the main the main course here, though. Let’s play this out. Watch this shot. It’s Oh my lord. I was bouncing up and down the liing. Bang. This lands. And I’m guessing the cut takes a spin off at Foxy, but also into the breeze. It just lands soft. So, yeah. Well, the the cut adds a little bit. obviously makes it go a little 103 that’s crazy high for me with a 3-wood um and it just did like literally exactly what I wanted to do like and then I like for the commentary of that the one I saw was Jim Nance who’s like the NFL commentator who does the Masters every year and he starts calling it majestic in the air I’m like I’ve clocked it. Like this is great. And the thing the thing with that is this forces Sam Burns to feel like he has to come up with something now. Hey. Yeah. Yeah. And like he had a really good shot. He hit it on the green too. Yeah. But obviously like he thought you’re in for Yeah. Like you think at this point like red hot chance of I’m probably going to make it. So he’s got to give the putt a go. Yeah. And like the greens were a little strange that week. They weren’t as fast as we normally have them, but they are they quite slloy. And this pin was on quite a slope like down towards that front of the green and like he just gave it a little go and it just kept going and obviously went like eight or 9 ft by and then he he missed the one coming back and I’m like then I’ve got this part going. I’m not trying to hold it. Just don’t just don’t be a dick and hit it too far past. And then I like I mean like you’ve experienced it a little bit like with chasing the fox. So when you’re nervous your hands go like that, right? And I’m I’m sure you had the same goal kicking right when you when you’re there like So are you standing over this a little bit jittery? Oh [ __ ] Yeah. Like cuz like at this point you sort of know like you know like if you three putt from there and let him back in like everyone remembers that. Do you reckon that’s like just take my tour card like I’m gone. Yeah. Like and so it’s like I like you’re just trying to just lag it down there and if it goes in great. If like you just don’t want to make it stressful coming back. And like I hit it far enough past I had to mark it. But then like when I put it back down it was like it’s this far. Like again don’t overthink it. Just don’t overthink it. But it was like I would have preferred it to be this far and you can just walk up and just be like yeah I’m good. But it was kind of nice to just like mark just it was the mark was almost like just a reset. Like it’s like okay reset bang hit in and then everything just goes unreal all over the place. How good how good to hear the in I just feel like I got better at golf. Oh, the thought of the PTA tour winner. The thought like as I said earlier like I almost find it easier when it’s in that position. Like you’re just like this is a shot I’m trying to hit. I’ve got to hit it. And it it makes it like easier to focus in on what I’m doing. Like golf’s hard cuz that stupid ball doesn’t move. Yeah. And you’ve got way too much time to think about what you’re doing. It’s like the same like you know if if ball’s in play for you, you just you’re kind of reacting to what’s in front of you and then if you got to kick a goal that matters. It’s like you’ve got way too much time to think about all the outcome. Y and like in golf when you’re playing really good, you’re in that you’re not thinking about I’ve got to do this and I’ve got to do that. You’re thinking I’m trying to hit it out there. you like you’re getting out of your own head and trying to react to a target and that’s like that’s really hard to do most of the time and then like yeah again coming down the stretch or like when you’re in the zone that’s when it happens you’re not thinking about it like lots of people have it when they’re hung over right where you’re like I feel [ __ ] you stand over the ball I don’t I’m like that was me on Monday yeah but you’re like I I like you feel bad and you’re just like I just want to hit it and you’re not thinking about anything else and all a sudden you hit a couple of good shots and you’re like ah that’s easy and then you sober up and start thinking about it more and you’re like, “Oh, okay. This is hard again.” Like, it’s kind of the same principle. Like, golf is easier when you’re out of your own head. Such an interesting chat. Uh Foxy, thank you so much for coming in uh hanging out with us at Play On. Obviously, we’re here for Chasing the Fox December 12th. Uh I’ll be out there. I’m sure this lot are going to start hanging around a little bit now. Yeah, that was enjoyable. That was good, man. What I took out of that is the more you drink during golf, the better you get. Well, there is there is levels to that. There’s a sweet spot somewhere in there. Just quickly before you jet off, mate. Uh we went to the range and we would love you to break down what you see from us. Okay. Okay. So, first up, we got none other than Brooke Rusco. So, let’s play this out. Uh okay, that is a swing right there. I think we go slow it down. So, what are you seeing, Foxy? I actually see a pretty good setup there. Like, how often do you play golf? No, next to never. Okay. So like on the other side of it looks it looks real natural. Like the setup looks real natural. Um it feels natural when I’m out there. I got to say sorry. My bad. Like the biggest thing I see and like I’m not one to criticize this cuz I don’t have much turn as well, but it’s like just an arm swing, right? Like you just you pick your arms up and you just kind of throw your arms down at it. That’s what I was going for. So like if you’re like the thing for me it would be try to turn your upper body like you want your golf swing to be like imagine you hold the base of a rubber band and you twist it that way and then when you go the other way the lower body goes first. So you unwind that way and everything else follows. So you’ll hit it way further doing that. Well I have the motto down the middle smile and giggle. And that was smile and giggle, Foxy. For someone for someone that doesn’t play golf, like that’s a that’s a pretty good move. Look at this next one. Mart, bring it up. Here we go. I’ll take that. Oh, he is loading on this. I again, that’s actually a pretty solid setup. Yes. See, see those trees at the back? They were down there. So that’s actually that’s almost the opposite of you, bro. Like that’s all like all turn and not a whole lot else going on. And then you can see it on the way through. Like there’s no lower body, right? The lower body just kind of stays there like feet planted on the way through. Like if you want more power out of it, you’ve got to get off that right side. Get that right toe off. Like let the like all the power like if you watch baseball, you wear Dodger shirt, right? if you like they’re all real strong through the lower body. Everything’s ahead and the upper body’s behind. Like you want that same you want that same thing in a golf swing. Whereas again that’s that’s got the turn associated with it, but then none of the lower body to actually Do you ever hear all this stuff around, oh, he’s too far, he’s not in the slow, he’s across the line. All this golf terminology. Is this is it relevant to you? Yeah, a little bit. But like I mean my swing’s funky as [ __ ] Like I just it works. Like you find what works for you. You find what work like golfers that’s a really good thing for golf. You just find what works for you and do it. Okay. Have a look at my one then. I want to see if you draw any similarities here, boys. Not bad though. That’s the setup. Good setup. Okay. Oh. Is there any similarities to another golf swing that you’ve seen? May have even felt. I mean, it’s got a little bit of me and the up. Like, it goes it goes it goes like you you this like your club’s real up and high in front of you, which is what I do. You’ve got a little bit of brook in there as well. Like it’s it’s quite on the way back it’s quite army. And I do like again I said I’m not one to criticize. Like I do the same thing. I turn to about here and then my arms go. Yeah. I just do the rest. It’s fine. Yeah. Um the stance, the setup, is this because of your hip? You have the flared left ankle. Left ankle. So that’s where I’m at. I got the I got the bad um combo of flat feet and bowed legs. So I could have got high arches and straight legs depending on what jeans I got for and that’s an Adam Scott stance. Yeah. Yeah. And then like my old man’s got bowed legs and there’s flat feet running on my mom’s side of the family. So I got the bad and so like my ankle joint sits like real jammed up like that so I can’t get through it. So you just open it out. Um but like setup wise yours is good. Bang. Like you can see you get up, you got plenty of room up there, which is good. Um, back looks good too, by the way. Nah, this is stiff neck of doom. Yeah, you can see like you’re fight you’re fighting some like body stuff through the through. Thank you. Who do you think got the longest drive out of all of those three? I’m going him just cuz he plays more golf and there’s a bit like like there’s a bit more sequencing going on with Sean. Yeah. So he knows. Foxy knows, boys. Like if again if you watch someone like Rory like Rory’s not that big like he’s he’s strong but it’s all about the sequencing of that like the lower body going first. He’s one of the best at getting his lower body like real ahead of his upper body and that gives the upper body plenty of time to like speed up and catch up. Yeah. Yeah. The longest swing is on screen now. The longest drive. So M tonked it nice and straight. Well, like if if your lower body works more, Ma, like you would hit it proper. We’re talking long drive competitions. I haven’t even played nine holes in my life. The aggression in that I felt it. Who are you hitting it? But like golf’s hard. Like when you like if you don’t play golf, golf’s really hard to pick up. Like I’ve had this conversation a lot. Like it it’s a real unnatural movement. Like if you pick it up as a kid and then you don’t play for 20 years, like it looks way more natural than when you’ve like if you pick it up in your like, you know, late teens or 20s or whatever. It’s just a weird move. I learned it to a language. Yeah. If you have a you have kind of that base growing up, but if you don’t, yeah, we’re picking out things in between. There’s plenty of people that are good golfers like early and don’t play for 20 years with work, family, whatever [ __ ] right? and then they get out and it’s real easy to get back down because they’ve got the muscle memory. But like if you yeah pick up golf in your mid30s and you’re like your golf swing’s always going to be a bit funky like you’re going to be limited in the terms of movement patterns you’ve got but you can still play good and you’ve got also got the great thing about it. You got the handicapping system that anyone can kind of compete with anyone as long as everything’s handed in properly. Do you have a handicap? I ask you this. Yeah, I hand in most my cards at home so it’s like plus six point something. Imagine giving the golf course six shots, boys. That sucks. The lowest I got to was nine. So, so when you when you when we do chasing the fox, so I just play scratch. Scratch. Yeah. Okay. Sweet. All right. There you have it. Thanks, brother. Lam Bronini. Look at the Sean Johnson. Agüero. It’s over. Pass is intercepted at the goal line. In your life have you seen anything like that? Elliot hits it with a great steam and he’s in the world final.