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2025 Week 7 Spread Picks, Survivor, NFL Game Previews | Cust Corner: Geoff’s $20K Dinner. This team is is just so bad and
I’m sorry that some people don’t This team is is just so bad and
I’m sorry that some people don’t think it’s all right for me to
complain about how bad my team. No, no, no, no, no.
Hold on. No one said that.
It’s not right for you to complain about your team being
bad. You have now made it an
exclusive thing that only you can complain about your team.
I want at least the hand wave of it could be worse.
I could be in this situation, but but I’m not even getting
that. So that’s what I’m, that’s what
I’m trying to enforce. And let me throw it’s.
As bad as it’s this is rock. This is rock bottom.
Say that this season is rock. It could continue to get worse
this year, granted, but this season is the nadir of things.
Welcome to the Pat Mayo experience presented by
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It’s all here for you, Jeff. You’re on the line and I think
someone owes you an apology for ruining your experience of these
playoff baseball games. He owes a lot of people an
apology. I I heard that he’s still like
him peacocking and AOCS before the first pitch.
Embarrassing. Well.
He’s here in studio and he I demand an apology from him as
well. It is Tim andagust.
Tim andagust. It’s not my name, I shouldn’t
apologize. I’m not the one purposely taking
up my starter way too early in games.
Weren’t even sweating the Mariners, huh?
I mean, obviously I am now. Should be they’ve got to win for
the next 5. Not great.
But like last night’s game, you took the starter out way too
early. You leave Schneider to make
decisions and it seems like he makes the wrong ones, makes bad
decisions. Also.
Like I don’t understand how in the first inning when the ball
hit a Mariner in live play while he was still allowed to advance
to second base on the throw, that went wild.
Wouldn’t blame the the entire loss on that.
No, I wouldn’t, but it’s just like that.
Blame it on you. I take no responsibility.
Many are blaming it on you. I take no responsibility.
He killed the poor lions. And it was, you know, it was a
rough weekend for, you know, Western New York because their
favorite baseball team and football team took losses.
That is no good. You must be very happy about the
bills. Well, I we’ll get into it, but.
Like if they’re on by, we’re not going to be talking.
About that, I certainly feel satisfied and I am waiting for
an apology from somebody who said I was absolutely moronic to
think that the Bills might not win the division and pick
somebody else. And here we are through six
weeks of the season. The Bills aren’t leading the
division. Well this is also a circumstance
of like why people are freaking out that Baker isn’t the MVP in
terms of odds right now that they they don’t crown the
champion in Week 6. They certainly don’t, But the
fact that it’s into Week 6 and the Patriots, who have the
world’s simplest schedule, the Bills have the same schedule
almost with a couple of variations anyway.
And like, the Patriots have already beaten Buffalo in
Buffalo, so I’m feeling pretty good about that.
I deserve a little bit of credit.
You get. You get no credit until it
happens. You realize this?
That’s why I said a little. Bit you don’t get any, you get 0
credit. So what you want is partial
credit for something that might not happen.
I want a partial apology is what I’m looking.
For get none, get none because I.
Deserve a partial apology. You know, there’s like a really
expensive tout service out there that was having a really that
was having a really bad run in what is supposedly their bread
and butter of college basketball last year.
And they sent out a tweet pretty much saying their record, like
all the leads that they had at halftime in games that they bets
didn’t win. So what you’re saying is that I
could have my own golf tout service because I think a lot of
guys that come in second place? Yeah, yeah, I guess so.
I listen, Tim, like when you deserve credit, you’ll get
credit. That is true.
When things happen to you, we are not shy to give you credit.
We just usually know what for them to happen.
I’m not even looking for credit, I’m looking for a slight
apology. You don’t get any apology.
It hasn’t happened. So he told you that your take of
what of the division was? Of you it was.
It was you. It was you who.
Said it. No, I told you, I said your
opinion of Josh Allen was a clown take.
And my whole position that the Bills wouldn’t win the division.
Was to be honest. It was Pat a couple weeks ago
that said even if the Patriots won the head to head game, he
didn’t think it would matter at all in the division.
I, me and you are more about Josh Allen.
If you got stances on like the Bills and the Pats, you, that’s
for you and Pat. Me and you are about Josh Allen.
OK, How good is Josh Allen look the last two weeks?
He’s thrown interceptions in three straight games.
It’s very not like him. Well, it kind of is like old
Josh Allen. It’s not like modern or the
contemporary, Josh. Allen, when you say old Josh
Allen, basically what? Your first couple of seasons,
like first. Two years in the league before
he became. Legitimate What are the threat
are the MVP odds right now? Mahomes is number 1, then Allen,
then Baker. See that to me?
OK, again, they don’t name the MVP after six fucking weeks, but
he has to. Baker has to do this now for
three more months. This may sound silly, but even
though Mahomes is the betting favorite, he’s not the favorite
to win MVP. He just isn’t.
What they’re saying is that based on the next three months,
if Mahomes continues to play this way and the Chiefs continue
to beat good teams and look this good, that he will be the MVP.
Is what they’re saying discourse, like we’re at the
pretty much the quarter pole, or I guess the 30% mark of it, all
of it now, like the amazing things, like the crazy stuff
that Baker is doing right now, like some of these incredible
plays, it doesn’t fucking matter unless he’s also doing it in
December. Like that’s just how these
awards work. What you’re doing now, you got
to be in a position where you can do stuff in December, unlike
TV games that like catapult you. But all this is doing now is
like you need pole position for the holidays.
I see. So you can hijack the golf show
for nine months talking about the Ryder cop, but I can’t talk.
About this, he’s talking about 1/3. 1. 3rd of the season, yeah.
But but, but, but you’re also saying that he shouldn’t be the
favorite, and I’m telling you why.
He’s the favorite. I’m not saying he shouldn’t.
Be I’m saying he I’m very happy to have a discourse regularly
about any award. I’m just saying there’s just so
too much credit lapping on it is is insane.
I mean, there’s other things I can ask for credit for, yeah.
What other things that haven’t happened do you want credit for?
I mean, they haven’t. You get credit when you do
things that deserve credit. We stand up here and give you
credit. And when we forget, the audience
lets us know you deserve credit. I still, I think we’re to the
point now where the Sam Darnold thing I can just have the credit
for. That I I don’t.
Maybe you should. Yeah, I don’t think that you
can. His performance has been enough
to justify my position. Not.
Really, I almost want to give you the credit there.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
OK, but let’s say Minnesota wins this week.
They have basically the same record, but the fuck’s the
difference? Come on.
What is the difference they they got rid of an expensive
quarterback to get a better team, and the better team with
the worst quarterback has the same record as the team that he
went to. OK, sure.
It isn’t the whole point to win the games.
If they have the same record, what’s the difference?
They would have a much better record with Darnold.
Would they? I mean, they would.
Would they have that much of A better record?
Yes, I I appreciate it. I well, just agreeing.
I appreciate Tim’s take. I am naive or arrogant enough to
to have thought that like the best way for the Vikings to
actually win the Super Bowl would be to like weave this line
of, you know, walk this tightrope of, of changing that
quarterback for a, for a cheaper option.
But man, Darnold, you know me, I’m a Darnold Stan and he’s just
slinging it and it’s. Gorgeous six games, it’s all
we’ve been through. OK.
But we only, and this is a 17, so we’re like we’re all the way
through. This is also a multi year
decision. For example, let’s say the
Seahawks make the playoffs this year and do pretty well and they
they lose in the second round of the playoffs and then Minnesota
JJ McCarthy gets better and they win the Super Bowl in three
years. The right move was getting rid
of Darnold and keeping McCarthy. Well, but at some point you you,
your window opens and closes and like the Vikings window is not
that deep. Well, it is because you have JJ
on the rookie contract. Well, I mean, that’s the whole I
guess. That was the whole point.
Of getting rid of Darnold. I guess he’s getting a second
year off. So, so can we have someone on
staff just make it like get together with Tim and make a
list of like lukewarm credit things that he wants like put on
the stove? This Mariners thing is a front
runner custody award. Look, it’s 2.
Games, if they get swept, it’s got a real bad luck for you.
That’s rough. That’s rough.
But again, like, it’s not my fault that you Savage left a
hanging, breaking pitch in the first inning.
Then he got his mojo back, started pitching great, and
Schneider took him out way too early only to result in
intentionally walking a run for no reason not to pitch to the
catcher and that result get. Say what you said and then and
then walk off the responsibilities I know.
What I said, what I said was that I thought the most
difficult opponent sleepwalk, you didn’t walk in.
Seattle didn’t even walk in line.
What? So what I no.
No, hold on what I said and I’ll take responsibility for what I
said. What I said was that I was far
more concerned with the Yankees and the Mariners, that the
Yankees were the best team they were going to face in the
American League playoffs. I don’t think that’s wrong,
Sleepwalk. I thought they would have an
easier time with Seattle than they would with New York.
Given that New York is given that New York is a better team
now they’ve lost two games. That is deeply unfortunate.
But like, you’re willing to just pull the chute?
I’m not well, Jeff. ‘S the one who’s there.
He’s boots on the ground, pulling.
Any chute? I need Vancouver to save us, and
I don’t particularly like them very much.
Well, they. Get 3 consecutive games in
Seattle. I think they’ll take two of
those three games. You’d better.
Hope they do. I think they will if they were.
Going to get swept at this point but I don’t.
Think that’s true it. Would.
Probably help, I don’t want to give them the other way I.
I it sucks, like it sucks to get here and to perform like that,
but I’m just trying to stay. I know you guys like what you
know about me. I’m actually trying to be
completely different and just sort of acknowledge that this
season was a dream from nowhere and they’ve grossly
overachieved. And in my heart, they’re playing
with house money. But they, they, I don’t want to
see them die like this. The Vikings.
Could be O and four over the next four games.
They have a tough schedule. Yeah, they they go.
Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Ravens and Like we.
Don’t even know who’s going to take the snaps for the
Minnesota. No, we don’t.
For this week like it’s. That guy who played a bunch in
the preseason, who I think is the likeliest starter is Wentz.
That I mean Wentz finished the game in but.
Like it’s it seems like they’re being very non committal about
it. I would say they.
Play on. They play on Thursday next week
versus the Chargers, so they might just feel like, why a guy
off an injury if he’s got to play twice in four days?
Sometimes they just sort of wait for the second leg, but.
Why would that prevent them from playing?
Whence? If.
If if McCarthy is close to coming back.
Yeah, sorry. I was talking.
I mean, I’m obviously focused on McCarthy.
I’m selfishly just interested in who’s going to be healthy for
them in week. Eight I brought.
My son to the golf course yesterday, the first time on the
big huge all summer long. I bring him to the driving range
like the little executive car 3. Yeah.
So he’s only five years, so I brought him to the big course.
He could not have been happier to be playing on the big course,
Jeff. And I think he has a better
bunker game than Tim does already.
I my. Bunker game has gotten better.
In my defense, however, the shot he hit out of the out of the
bunker was excellent. It’s an excellent shot.
So like, I’m very happy to see that.
Yeah, he has. Very poor touch on the Greens.
It’s. Either way, it’s either way past
the hole or significantly short of the hole.
We’ll put it well. Him and 85% of golfers who tee
it up on a on a Saturday. But I, I.
Was telling Tim this Jeff which is very disappointing.
My my course closes on the 26th and I am currently over the past
two weeks playing the best golf I’ve ever played and now the
season’s going to end. Sucks.
Yeah. That’s that sucks my course a
little tighter with the kids and.
You guys have, from what I’ve noticed about your course the
few times that I’ve been there, and thank you for bringing me a
lot of old people. I’m sure.
I mean, listen, there’s a lot of a lot of a lot of people, but
yeah, sure, you’ll see old people just.
Notice a lot of olds like our Our course doesn’t have a lot of
old people. No, but.
Our course is also not a generationally established golf.
Oh great. And most people are old.
They play at like, 7:00 AM. Yeah.
And then you don’t see them. We’re not.
The jewel of Jane and Finch. We don’t have that.
Shut up. I mean, am I geographic?
I mean, I don’t live in Toronto, so am I geographically
incorrect? Tim did notice we were passing a
lot of like money Marts on the way to your course, Jeff.
Yes, Kenny may note, it’s sort of like Augusta.
Just like. You know, you step out of the
gate and you’re in a different world, but we were there first.
No, that makes sense. Like it wasn’t one of the worst
neighborhoods in Canada. I think you.
Know I turn the corner and my mom lock the door lock when you
can like manually lock your Kenny was.
Noting noticing this about the area we were in, but made me
just as happy as the next day, the next morning.
Like this is a city that Jeff lives in and here we are
downtown on a Saturday morning in Toronto.
He’s like, I don’t even know where I am really like this is a
city I don’t recognize. I don’t I don’t know any of life
on a Saturday morning in the downtown.
Like you live here. You wouldn’t though.
I I. Mean I mean like the.
Tranquil like downtown at 8:00 AM, like 9:00 AM on a Saturday,
just, you know, unlike a a hungover like walk.
Just seeing it like so calm and like nice is a lot different
than like the chaos that I would see it in in rush hour.
And I’m like, no wonder like a tourist could come here and
think, this isn’t like a hellscape I saw.
On TikTok, videos of people lining up at Union Station after
the ball game to get in or to go home.
And it was like an unbelievable mass of people.
Well, they have a long organization.
Well, they. Oh my goodness, but they.
Also, they they moved the Leafs game up.
Yeah. So the Leafs game got played in
the afternoon and then said that anyone who wanted to stay could
stay and watch the Jays game at Scotiabank.
So they had all of Rogers Center and a sold out Scotiabank all
leaving at the same time. All pretty pissed off too.
Yeah, They I. Go to like a lot of Jay games
and normally I’ll park like in great parking, but normally like
they’re not good and the stadium’s not like that busy and
people like are just leaving at their own times.
I suppose like the playoffs where it’s packed and people
stay to the end. So I literally park like the the
weather’s been so nice that I like intentionally park like up
by your old office, Pat. That’s that’s literally a 42nd
walk. That’s that’s not even in
Toronto anymore. That’s out in the, that’s out in
the country, but. I’ll usually park like right on
Front Street, but like the the masses of humanity, like I like
to walk out of the traffic that’s.
Why I say I, if I was you, I I would honestly, I would take the
subway down. That’s like the whole point of
the subway. I would not want to drive
downtown and then deal with that getting out.
Rather just take. So go for like dinner
afterwards. Wait an hour.
Well, as we’ll. Go into it.
He already went to dinner beforehand, but.
That. Is true, but then we’ll say.
We’ll say it into. That for for Cass.
Corner It was a good week for Jeff though, because he won the
week 10 and five against the spread.
Jeff, you have moved up into second place in a tie for me
because I was nine and six last week.
Tim finally stumbled for the first time in four weeks that
you weren’t over 500. You’re bad weeks now, 7 and 8.
Not bad. Not if.
That’s a bad week. We’re we’re living, right?
Yeah. 52 when you. Top a golf shop, but it’s a good
mess, yeah. Like 175 yards down the middle
on a top that that. Is that from taking lessons the
past few years? Shout out Neil, who’s really
developed my game into making me a pretty good golfer at this
point. But he said that the final key
to becoming good, He’s like everyone misses.
He’s like go to go to a PGA Tour event and just stand around the
grounds like not everyone is Rory.
Like guys just miss shots all the time.
You just don’t see them on TV. He’s like the the key to being
good is when you miss, it’s not like devastatingly bad.
You don’t Shank it at a bounds or hit it a foot in front of
you. Like if you’re trying to hit a
200 yards and you top it 160 in front of you, not a big deal.
Get it up and down from there. You’re just not bleeding shots.
That’s the last sign of like getting good is your misses are
no longer just so detrimental to your game that it’s over.
Well, someday you’ll get there. Maybe we’ll see just you got
better over the past two months been.
Helpful. Been helpful.
Some lessons been helpful. Jeff and I are.
Tied at 44 and 46, so we’re clawing back after three pretty
down weeks in a row. For us the coin was 5 and 10.
So if the coin has gone from first to last over the course of
the past two weeks, 43 and 48 overall.
I am now O and five on superlocks and I’ve made a note
to not include Arizona in any sort of super lock.
Best bet that I do, I’m putting Arizona on the banned list.
I have no understand that. I’ve got some similar I have.
Not got them. I’ve put them I believe into the
Super lock 4 times and got it wrong every time.
But I mean. How could they lose against them
hackers, right? I mean, they could lose, of
course they could. Or beat the you know, how could
they not beat the sprat? Yeah, I want.
Credit. I want credit, Tim mocked.
My super lock last week wasn’t. Even close?
What was that? The Raiders, Yeah, you got it.
But oh gosh, well, you’re the one the.
Only thing, the only thing that Tim is clinging to at this
point, because he keeps bringing it up, Jeff, because we keep
telling him that The Jets are like the most embarrassing thing
that’s ever happened to football.
He’s like, well, the Titans still exist, so he just hates
the Titan. That game’s going head to Soon.
I think that happens if they lose.
That game, you’re in big trouble.
Well. At this point, the worse the
better, honestly. Yeah, but you don’t.
You want to be Owen 17, but you don’t want people to think The
Jets are like the absolute clown show of the week.
Well, I mean. The New Yorker had a cartoon
this week because you you showed where it’s just the police
officers pulled someone over and gave him a ticket and he just
said, oh, no, the ticket to The Jets.
It’s just like, yeah, they’re, they’re an embarrassment and
it’s in. Life in life, it’s a popular.
It’s popular for a lot of people who are down on their luck to
just default think that like it can’t get worse.
Like it, it can’t get worse. You know, whether it be like a
job or a marriage or or a consortium of things New York
Jets are teaching people. Like it can get worse.
Like if you thought it was bad before, it actually can get so
much worse in 20. 23 When Rodgers ruptures his Achilles
tendon, when we had all these hopes, the season was dashed.
And so I thought to myself, 2024 couldn’t possibly be worse than
that. And it was so much worse than
that. And so going into this year,
it’s like, OK, but all those people are gone.
It’s a new regime. Surely after what I experienced
last, it can’t get it’s gotten worse somehow.
But you know, if we go O in 17, it like literally can’t go
worse. I don’t.
Think that you want to go O in 17?
I really don’t. You take your chances with one
in 16 and hope that you get the first pick.
You don’t want the O in 17 stink that plagued the Lions.
Yeah, but the. Browns had it a few years ago.
People aren’t constantly bringing it up about the Browns.
Yeah, but the. Browns are in a proposed state
of disarray. It’s not.
It’s not going well for the. Browns The Browns were ON 16.
Oh, the year they. Had Deshawn Kaiser they went ON
16 and one. Win the year before that, yeah,
they. Yeah, the year before.
Baker got drafted, so I. Mean it’s hard to imagine how it
could go worse I’m sure it can go worse.
It keeps going worse, but like I’ve in my heart of hearts, I
think that we are approximating rock bottom at this.
Point do you think? Like is it much like the Giants?
Like even if you’re bad, the moment you give like the fan
base life with a young quarterback and like another fun
young rookie, like, you know, scataboo, the narrative like
instantly flips. Like now the Giants, even though
they’re they’re shit, they’re treated like these like kings at
the moment. I mean, I’m overreaching with
like treating like kings, but there is like, I don’t know,
they like flipped it in some way, like the whole talk around
all no kings. Yeah, Jeff.
‘S a no kinger. That’s this is what we know I’m
going. To be in, I listen, I’m nervous
now because there’s I’m flying into LAX on Saturday and I’m
seeing there’s like a huge protest right outside it.
It’ll it’ll not cause any more or less traffic than would
normally be because it’s I hope so.
I am. Yeah, having to get out of that
place with three kids I’m already I hate.
Yeah. Do you have?
Tickets Do you have tickets for Sunday?
No, you, you. And you think that just having
like a scataboo and dart would lift the spirits of Jets fans?
Do you know what actually lifted the spirits of Jets?
Jets fans Jeff on the one that I know after receiving a text on
Sunday morning when they were driving for potentially a
game-winning field goal that Cus had them at 6:00 and 5:00 if
they got a field goal listed off their schedule.
Those all sound like wins to me. He can’t make a pass, he can’t
make a read. Guys are like open with five
yard separation, unlike easy quick break and routes and he
it’s behind, it’s in front. Like he’s just the worst.
That’s not great. You’re.
Very big on Justin Fields. Well, it was MVP.
Candace no I. Didn’t, but I thought that he
would be decent. I thought it would be a decent
reclamation project. There’s.
Nothing to hold, my man. They’re not going to make a
change of quarterback because I don’t understand it, but they’re
just going to keep going down with the ship.
This is year. 5, This is Year 5. Like there’s so many guys who
play right now. Pat who I I would hate to be my
team’s starting quarterback. I would see no future with them,
but like you totally see the world where that guy, once the
team gets an upgrade, could be like a backup for 10 years.
In this league. I don’t know that Justin Fields
could be employed. Yeah, ’cause no one ever leaves
The Jets having been terrible, but it’s year.
Five, he was somewhere. He’s been two other places.
This isn’t a Jets thing with him.
The thing that you need to do if you want to rehabilitate your
career, you need to go to Minnesota, San Francisco and
just be the back up there and like learn how to play
quarterback, then go somewhere else or.
Or the Rams. But yeah, like, yeah, the Rams,
Baker and Darnold, they went to camp Baker.
Darnold, Daniel Jones, the Chair, like they all learned how
to be like, it’s the part that we don’t ever talk about
coaching with that. When we think about like who is
the best coach, it’s we think like XS and OS or like rah, rah,
what happens on game day. But there’s very clearly
something with those three guys and their ability to coach the
quarterback position just to make.
It’s not that these guys are untalented.
Like Justin Fields went about third overall, Darnold went
third overall, Baker went first overall and they were basically
run out of the league. And then you put them with
someone who fixes their footwork, teaches them how to
read a defense. They’re like, oh, now we can use
that talent. Yeah, like.
I saw the your friend of ours sent us the the quote from
Garrett Wilson. I was like, why were you upset
on the sidelines? And he’s like, well, I wanted to
know what the game plan was. And then when they explained it
to me, I was even more upset. Like, Oh my gosh, it just does.
Now he’s hurt and now he’s and now he’s hurt and he’s not going
to be rushing back because why, Woody?
We’re oh, and six and like, it’s a fire sale.
You know, I hope San Francisco’s got lots of cap because Quinton
Williams is the answer to their problems.
Yeah, they need it now. They they need as much as their
offense has been banged, They need a.
Pass rush they need. With Warner and Bosa done for
the year that they need someone and like.
Breece Hall will not be a jet within the next couple of.
Weeks, I’m certain of that. You might.
The Patriots might. The Chiefs might those.
Would be the big three destinations, I think for Breece
Hall. There was actually a Chargers
note here. I saw it from under at Underdog
NFL before we came on, Jeff, that the Chargers are making
preliminary inquiries at running back and offensive line ahead of
the trade deadline. So.
So yeah. They were there were rumors
about them getting a running back last week.
I don’t know about Vidal versus the Dolphins.
Would like change their desire. They still need another running
back. Vidal can be good and fun but
even when Hamptons back they need another running back.
So I expect someone to be brought in and tackle is just
obvious. But it was nice to see them, you
know, run outside the tackles a lot and also just, you know, a
lot of times just get rid of the ball quickly because we’re
screwed. I don’t feel like they think
that they’re screwed if they’re in the market to be like if when
alt comes back. I would put more of a priority
on getting another O lineman ahead of a running back.
I think you can piece together like the Eagles just released
Odric Estimae. Like just pick him up and see if
he ends up working. Like you can piece together
running back enough You can’t just pick up offensive line, no.
I agree. The Chargers are right in the
thick of it. There’s no one in the as we’ve
seen the last two weeks, nobody’s that good in the AFC.
Everybody has profound flaws. The best team?
In the AFC, just might be the Chiefs.
Like but they have tons of flaws too.
Like throw all those top 789 teams into a hat and like you
could pull out any of them. I mean if somebody noted Ember.
‘S an average quarterback from being dominant like.
But they don’t have one. But like, look at the top teams
in the AFC right now. It’s the Chargers.
It’s Steelers. First team.
The best records in the AFC are the Pats, Bills, the Steelers
are #1 the Colts are #1 then the Steelers.
Then at 4:00 and 2:00, it’s the Pats, the Bills, the Broncos and
Chargers, and the. Chargers are leading their
division like and someone said it’s like 2007 all over again.
I’m looking forward to Marlon Mccree’s revenge in the
divisional Round I. Will fucking kill you.
What are you doing? I’m just.
Saying if it’s Patriots Chargers in the second round, you have a
chance to. Prevent that is like the low
moment of of your life of low moments.
Please. I mean, that is a low moment.
I bet you know what. No no, this isn’t fair.
This just speak. I feel like I’m at like a dinner
date with the girls and because I’m not a Jets fan I can’t
complain that I can’t get a new handbag because the girl beside
me, her husband like beats the shit out of her.
Oh no, write that time code down.
We can’t. Have that write that time code
down. That has to be bleeped.
Oh no, that’s terrible. Well, that’s what it’s like.
It’s like nothing I have is valid because I’m here with a
Jets fan. That is true.
You have been doing that to people this year.
Look. That’s all I’ve got and it’s I’m
going to have. I’m going to take it.
We were here with with Jeff, Jeff on Sunday night and he was
complaining about the Bengals, about the Bengals.
And I was like, I’m sorry, you don’t get to.
Yeah, but you? But you do this to people all
the time, like when the like my. Victimhood is worse than your
victimhood. Yeah, but you?
Feel this. But you feel this way all the
time anyway. Even when The Jets aren’t the
worst team, this is and or the best.
This is all I have, and I am going to latch onto whatever
brings me some modicum of comfort in a moment of just
darkness and bleakness, like that scene from King Lear when
they gouge the eyes out of Gloucester and he’s like, you
know, all dark and comfortless. That’s how I feel.
Give you the mountain. Or that that’s also not good.
He. Tried it.
I, I, I at least you. Put him out of his misery, sort
of. What did at least, you know.
No, he. He did it to his brother in the
finale, yeah. Oh, that’s true too.
And then? Then he got him.
I mean, we think that he got him.
I I went back, I watched the final two seasons again.
He. Said that’s a decision.
It was. Every individual.
It’s weird to watch it like just being removed from it.
Like the only problem with the final two CI mean season 7’s
actually 5 like. It’s the last 6 episodes even
the. Last, like individually those
episodes are actually really good.
It just it doesn’t make sense with the rest of the story
because there’s one season where it takes JB like the entire
season to get from like Winterfell to King’s Landing
because that’s how far it takes. But just everything, it just
gets so compressed that becomes the problem.
The episodes themselves are actually quite good.
I don’t know there’s. Like what, 14140 minutes in a
day? And you’re wasting some of those
precious minutes on re watching the end of of a series that did
not stick the landing, hoping that it wouldn’t be awful the
second time around. It wasn’t.
Awful the second time around. OK.
I mean, you, I’m the one who went back and watched it.
I watched it. Once that’s enough, that’s
enough. It’s it’s.
Like you’re probably fan. Service a lot.
Of it is it, It’s the compressed timeline that really just fucks
everything up. But like I said, like the
episode when we watch it the first time, I think they
remastered it on HBO Max that it’s not as dark the second
time. The Battle of Winterfell fucking
rules. Sure.
Like that’s a great and the episode right before it is
awesome too, where they’re all getting ready for the night skin
to come down. I don’t.
Remember much of that episode? I don’t.
It doesn’t even sound like you. Remember the season I don’t.
Remember being critical of that episode?
Either those two. Episodes are really good and
even the one where like the one where she burns the entire city
is just like whoa. It’s a pretty for TV.
It’s like this is movie level move like graphic effects.
Yes, it. Is all right just.
This story is bad. They don’t doesn’t pay off the
way you should. No, the the end.
Itself is horrible. Oh, horrible.
Just horrible. I wish I I wish I was on my game
to have just had a different analogy back there, but point
remains. Thursday Night Football,
something that none of us can seem to get right ever.
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati Cincinnati is a 5 1/2 point dog
at home. 43 is the over under in this game.
Again, we’re going to look at this game.
We’re all going to take Pittsburgh and be somehow
stunned when Cincinnati wins. I’m not.
I’m taking this. I’m taking the Bengals against
the number. Why are you taking?
The Bengals, I don’t think this. Pittsburgh team is very good at
all OK. Now is this because I watched?
The Bengals hang around at least defensively with the Packers
team that like you know, is very highly touted.
It is very high in the Super Bowl odds rankings.
They that game was 10/3 for quite a while like the Bengals
can be semi halfway competent enough to kick around with a
Steelers team, which I just think is extremely fraudulent.
So am I picking the Bengals to win?
No, but I I think this is like a 1714 type of ugly game and I’ll
take the points so the. Thing that worries me the most
because I was trying to think about doing that as well.
And then I started looking at like the the pressure rates that
get brought by some of these teams.
So like the the pressure rate for the Steelers actually quite
high. Sure.
Almost all the time and the Bengals can’t block, so that’s
an issue. So I think this works one of two
ways, that it’s either a complete no, I wouldn’t say like
blanking, but like a 10 point Max for the Bengals, or Flacco
is savvy enough and understands the pressure when it’s coming.
Because it’s not like Pittsburgh’s blitzing the entire
time either. They’re still dropping guys back
that he just makes the decision that anytime he’s getting
blitzed and he sees Higgins or Chase one-on-one moonbowl and
like just get down the field that way.
If he does that, I think they could win, yeah.
It’s going to be a close game. Where are you going, Jeff?
Yeah, so I am to Thursday night when apparently pad is to
superlocks, Yeah. Can’t get it?
You think you’re? And I bet Thursday nights,
because you guys know, I like TV games, so oh God, this is a real
tough one for me. I want to take the Bengals.
I think it’s just going to be a weird closer game.
I don’t know why I take a lot of like normally I don’t care what
happens in the final like quarter of a game, but when
you’re playing with a quarterback who you signed like
3 days ago, I, I think everything that happened in
those final drives for, for the Bengals is a huge, huge plus.
But then I’m asked to back like the team with the dumbest coach
and the worst defense. I guess give me the Bengals
because I’m an idiot and I’m going to like Pat said I’m I’m
zigging when I to try to get off this OM5 Thursday.
I’m with Tim Bengals. I’m just.
Going to take. Pittsburgh in the -5 1/2 on the
road. I just don’t see if they give up
big plays. Even the way that Green Bay,
Green Bay moved the ball against them perfectly.
They just every time they got him like Love through the
interception on the deal, like when the early drives Mace
couldn’t convert on anything. Just feels like that’s what the
Steelers are kind of geared to do.
Just death by a million paper islands.
Steelers are very turgid I. Wouldn’t call it a look ahead
game ’cause it’s not like division or even conference.
But one of my favorite Super Bowl rematch is next week ’cause
the night we all made lots of money, Packers, Steelers, Oh.
Yeah, that was a great. That was Sunday.
Night Football. Rodgers MVP Jordy Nelson, first
touchdown Packers in the points defensive.
Touchdown for the Packer. Yeah, it was.
Fantastic. It couldn’t have been a better
super. It was sort of the opposite of
that Carolina Broncos Super Bowl for us, Jeff.
Yes, it was the oh, that was a bad.
Yeah, that was. That was that was a bloodbath
for us. My biggest thing with Cincinnati
right now is Trey Hendrickson might not play in this game.
That’s their defense already isn’t good.
And now if they lose the one guy who can actually disrupt things,
it’s a real problem. I.
Have I got hit up last night by like a really smart person who
works for a sports book to make a bet for them?
I kind of like mocked it. And then like an hour later, one
of my good buddies who I like, likes to make crazy long shot
bet, long shot bets also hit me up.
And these two guys, I think they’re both nuts.
Aaron Rodgers, 175 to 1 to win MVP.
He’s got an A dot of four yards. I guess it’s 175 for a reason,
but it doesn’t matter if they go 16 and one if he is just
throwing bubble screens, he cannot win MVP.
I just. Think the media hates him so
much they. Won’t win MVP they won’t vote
for. The media already gave him one
MVP when they hated him, they’re not giving him a second.
I don’t think they hated him for the first of those later.
OK. Fair enough.
But the second one they definitely hated him for.
I don’t know that they’ll give him two, but yeah, he’s got to
throw the ball. They don’t throw the ball down
field. Maybe they did a little more
last week, but they do not throw down field at all.
But I don’t think it matters. You could bubble screen the
Bengals to death. And that’s what I’m thinking
here too. Or you just they’re like second
level and secondary is so bad, especially at tackling that this
just seems prime for a get DK Metcalf in space, let him run
and it happens to me. He does it to every team every
week now anyway that this seems like a team particularly
vulnerable to that. No, I could see that, but I just
think it’s going to be ugly. I don’t see any reason.
Thankfully, there’s other things to watch on Thursday night.
I don’t have to watch much of this terrible game.
You have not. Lost money this year backing the
divisional home favorite with a lot of ones.
We just. We just saw it last week.
Yeah, yeah. All three of us were on Philly,
the world was on Philly, and the outright lost the game.
We’ve just seen so many of the and this spreads.
Not that big, no. But all these.
Underdogs on Thursday, The Niners, the Bills, even with the
the Dolphins game was a Thursday.
Yep. Dallas.
Dallas. And opening week.
Yeah, well, I’ll, I’ll, don’t worry, I’ll ruin it.
I’m I’ll take the Bengals and I’ll.
Be there to collect the the Pittsburgh money on that end.
Now we’re off to Julio London for the Rams and the Jags.
Home game for the Jags. They are three-point dogs in
this home game, looking like no puka for the Rams, but everyone
else is fine, I suppose, and playing.
At a stadium I told was no good for anything for football, but
yet they’re playing in Wembley anyway or something.
Jeez, you are. So disingenuous, I know.
It’s, it’s really not, man. It’s.
So he did this again with something, hey, on the Internet.
He did this with the Halloween stuff with me.
He he can just take an argument and just bring it to such an
extreme. That doesn’t represent anything
I ever said, full stop. That’s what he does.
That’s how that’s his only in after like ridiculous takes to
try to smear you. This is not what he’s doing.
I choose not to incriminate myself the.
Coin in London shall be going with the home team, the
Jacksonville Jaguars, coming off a loss against a very good
defense in the Seattle Seahawks. They looked out of sorts in a
weird way. They, I mean, they kind of just
look like the Jags do every week.
But they didn’t generate 5 turnovers.
They didn’t win, Yeah. I like Jags here.
I have to say I like Jacksonville here.
Not having puka is a big deal for the Rams, the Jaguars.
Like, you know, teams go to London every year, but like
there is something to be said about the fact you go to same
stadium in the same foreign country every single year.
You know that there is some institutional advantages.
They. Are but like the people who make
the the the reservations and like set things up like there’s
a there’s a George. Costanza, there’s a steady.
Rhythm that I think you know doesn’t give you much of an
advantage, but gives you a little bit of 1.
And the players, most of the players have been there before,
so they won’t be out partying till 5:00 in the morning, yeah.
So you just add it up. I just don’t, I don’t love this
Rams team traveling an extremely long distance to London in in
this game. It’s it’s super short.
I I think the Jaguars are going to win.
I’m going to take the Rams and the -3 I just believe in this
Rams defense right now. I think the Rams D has been very
good against the run against the past, even special teams.
They’re actually quite good as well.
And the the Jags defense, they’re going to get to you.
They’re going to try. But if they don’t generate, they
almost tied up the game last week with a horrible throw from
Trevor Lawrence that got tipped to Brian Thomas that he ran in.
He got overturned. Obviously the Jags are.
Not that bad they’re I’m. Not saying that they’re that
bad, but I’m just saying that they’re I see them as like a
league median team, like the 16th best team, whereas the Rams
right now I think are a top ten team.
The Rams are. Sloppy.
They’ve thrown away two games this year by being sloppy.
No the Jags. Are also sloppy.
Yeah, but they seem to to relish in it.
They don’t lose those games usually.
But they don’t usually play this quality of opponent either.
Well, I. Mean they just played the Chiefs
2 weeks ago and they took care of business.
I don’t know it’s it’s a close game maybe sure, but I don’t
know. I just feel like Jacksonville is
had better strength, better health and a better spot.
I really have nothing to add. I’ll pick the Jags but I got
nothing on this. OK, All right.
You’re just. Going to take the Jags.
I’m trying to book us our tea time here and it’s it’s not
working. This is this app is just full of
riddled. It’s riddled with errors.
So Jacksonville for everyone besides me, I’ll take the Rams,
Miami and Cleveland to kick off the slate.
Fun game here. Cleveland is favored by 2 1/2 at
home. 40 1/2 is the over under your If your dog’s to Cleveland,
you’re not doing anything right at the moment.
You think that’s? Bad.
Just you wait well. I I Jeff in our DMS this week
was very mad at Mike McDaniel in his Capri pants but but showed
absolutely no I didn’t hear anything about Aaron Glenn’s
Capri pants. Pat.
You are now again conflating two different conversations.
Everyone does it to you, Jeff. Everyone does this to you.
We go hear me out. Hear me out if I’m wrong, if I’m
wrong, I’ll I’ll take full accountability.
I’m not anti Capri. I think our time doing golf
would show that I’ve supported Sam Ryder, Ricky Fowler.
Last week we argued about them because we were debating can you
roll up capris? That’s why I showed you that
picture because they clearly look like capris and he clearly
rolls them up. I know this is so pathetic to
even be talking about and I’m embarrassed.
I hope people have fast forwarded this 30 seconds.
That was that. Now for McDaniel, he is just in
the parlay of fucked. They lose the game.
He speaks like his monotone and his sad sack shit at the podium
in combination with like his demeanor and how he looks is a
parlay to drive fans crazy. Skinny fans, fat fans, it
doesn’t matter. In the same way when Cam Newton
would lose by 30 and he’d show up in one of those stupid
fucking hats. People be like, what the fuck,
man? So that’s like McDaniels.
Like when you win, it’s fine. It’s all like cool.
Everything that McDaniels, he does, you know, he’s relatable
with the players. He’s a cool guy.
They can sneaker shop together. But when shit hits the fan, what
do you got? And this guy ain’t got anything
when it hits the fan, he’s not. Even wearing those things, he’s
not even wearing the. I think he called a great game.
Honestly. There were a lot of plays for
getting to his three interceptions.
There were multiple plays where guys were wide open and he sails
the football. He’s not even wearing the
designer hats anymore, Jeff. Noticed you noticed that?
Oh, I’ve. Noticed he’s not wearing team
hats, but he’s also not wearing designer hats.
Also, his his pants aren’t rolled up.
They’re pulled up. Rolling up.
Is that what our buddy Patterson does?
Yes, he does. He he rolls up the cuffs, not
just pulls up. I.
Agree with you, Pat. I actually ran it by one of my
friends who’s like the most angry at Mcdaniel’s pants.
Is he? Also a fat guy, he.
He’s he’s, he’s, he’s a fat. He’s a fat guy.
I hate my correlation. Between the most angry and
people who can’t fit into into capris, this is my anti.
Capri. I wish I was like calling
Slender. I’d rock the shit out of them.
This. Was my entire argument about the
main reason people dislike Mike McDaniels.
People who are heavier set cannot wear Capri pants and it
gets them really mad and they start looking like my grandma
walking around. Old women love those pants and
the way that like larger people look in Capri pants, you’d look
like an 80 year old woman walking around Mike McDaniel.
He’s got that, you know, coke skinny vibe going.
You can wear those Capri pants. I’m going to give the Dolphins a
little bit of credit here in the sense that for a team that for
all intents and purposes should be imploding, they’re playing
relatively competitive football every week.
They’re not just like mailing in games.
Yeah, they find. Ways to lose which is they?
Do when you get against, but in in the Chargers defense that
Herbert went out and took it. Mcconkey went out and Mcconkey
made a phenomenal play and they went out and took it.
But the fact that they had to do that, the fact that the Dolphins
made a furious comeback when it was 2613 and you kind of got the
sense they were ready to roll over.
They didn’t. So that being the Browns can’t
score. They cannot score.
It doesn’t matter which quarterback they throw in there.
The Browns can’t score. I cannot lay points with a team
that can’t score. I will take the Dolphins.
The coin is. Taking the Browns and I’m sort
of, I’m going to take Cleveland because I’m a sucker and I take
Cleveland every week, Jeff. But I I do agree with most of
that, but it if I’m designing the game plan for the Browns,
you just watch what 4 consecutive running backs run
wild over you that you have a good running back.
He’s a rookie, your offensive line is not horrible.
Just turn around and give him the fucking ball, which they
didn’t do against Pittsburgh. They decided to throw 50 times
in the game. If they do that, they will lose
by like 21 points to the Dolphins.
If they just turn around and give Judkins the ball, Jeff,
they’re going to win. So I’m going to take them -2
1/2. I’m just going to end my rant
and then I’ll make a pick. I actually am going to shock
people by this. To sort of piggyback on what Tim
has said. For all the things that have
actually gone on in Miami this year, I don’t think Mike
McDaniel has done such a horrible job.
They’ve lost a lot of games late and even to give 2A credit like
there was a couple years ago, felt like there was 6 times in
the year where Herbert would lead the Chargers down the field
under like 2 minutes to go, put them ahead in the game and the
defense was just ranked 30th and it didn’t matter.
Right? And it seemed like 2 has done
that a couple times as well. And it’s just so such a a Dick
punch. That being said, I mean like 2-2
has like lack of accountability is his worst fucking quality.
I I. It’s funny because I think that
he thought that he was trying to take accountability and then
just made himself look kind of stupid.
Yeah. Like that’s like he’s always
ready to throw someone else under the bus.
He’s never been accountable that that’s the least like that is
the least likable thing about the guy.
The best quality he has is and don’t be offended by this is
he’s willing to like die for football.
I do not need to bleep that one out.
I was I was getting ready with the time code for that it could.
Have gone any #1. Really has to be beeped out,
yes. Yes it does.
I don’t. Think so, Tim.
Tim thinks that everything should be beeped out.
Tim. Tim’s sensibilities are a little
well, you know, you could decide later that could be, you know,
the kids behind the glass. They, they, they.
Yeah. Well, that’s with better gauge.
That’s. It’s too hypothetical for for
that to be bleeped out. It’s not like you’re talking
about somebody actually being beat up.
It’s a hypothetical. It’s fine.
It’s not a big deal. The you know the.
Guy who’s got battered wife syndrome and I can’t talk about
being disappointed with my Christmas present.
Level of bad behaviour that has been going on on this show.
Just an analogy. The level of bad behaviour.
See now you. See, you’re trying to spin the
wrong stuff now. No, I’m not.
This is the Jeff endears himself to the crowd with stuff like
this. I don’t think you seem like I
don’t. Think this stuff endears him to
the crowd I. Again, as Jeff has always
pointed out, do you know who knows this audience better than
anyone? Me.
It’s my show. I know what I know who’s
watching. You love Jeff.
This is why they like Jeff. All right, got some.
Rips in you over there. Oh yeah, we we have.
Let’s get some. Rips in here well.
We can do. We can do some breaks.
Did did you? Let Jeff make his pick for this
game. He was too busy talking about
beating up his friend’s wife or something like Oh my.
Goodness, no, I was talking. Oh my goodness, this is
terrible. Never.
Because you couldn’t, right? This is.
Terrible. Listen, a few of them would whip
my ass are. You taking Miami or Cleveland?
I’m going to take I’m going to take Cleveland because there’s
too many plays on the Dolphins O line where like they’re just
complete gutter negatives. And in a league where like 3 or
4 decide every game, I just I’m I’m taking Cleveland.
I I was. Just thinking this is like if
we’re it’s not the full 3 points, I think it will get to
the full 3 points and it would be to pull a Rob Pizzolo.
That’d be a no bet for me. But at 2 1/2, I do like
Cleveland only because if you had to point to one thing in
this game that either team does well, it would be Cleveland’s
defense. It’s like 1 good unit here.
Agreed. And Dylan Gabriel has kind of
big Tua vibes, I’m not going to lie to you.
Maybe it’s just because he’s like littler and left-handed but
and throws passes 4 yards down the field.
Just the first thing that kind of reminds me of it he’s got.
Like way I could be wrong. I’m not like a great QB
evaluator. I don’t remember what it was in
the in the spring, but he he’s got like way more of a cannon
than Tua. He.
He. Does if.
The thing is he’s still throwing like the passes that he throws
aren’t down the field. He’s just throwing rockets like
how Favre like could never really complete those very like
thin slants over the middle like and then you end up with like
Antonio Freeman fingers because he would just throw it as hard
as he could at all times. That sometimes it takes a little
bit of finesse. Gabriel just seems like he’s
throwing the ball as hard as he can at all times.
It’s leading to like Cleveland has bad drop problems anyway,
like Judy can’t catch anything. But even Fanon was putting it on
the ground because I just don’t think he expected the ball to be
coming at him as quick as it was.
So maybe he needs to be some sort of intermediary between
where he is now and where Tua is that you can ramp it up with
like a dark down the field once that time comes.
But you need to have a little bit of finesse on the ball when
you’re throwing screen passes and bubble screens and tight
ends. Set in dark blue.
We’re set in dark blue, all right.
Let’s. You know how much time I spend
researching bets and lineups and shows and getting everything
ready for you so it’s actually time to sleep.
I need it to count. That’s why I switched to a Helix
mattress and honestly, game changer.
I have Helix mattresses all over my house.
My wife and I have one. The guest room has one.
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Jeff, I’ll let you start on this because this game opened I
believe 2 1/2 or two for The Jets and now Carolina is a 2
point favorite on the road in New York this week.
I like The Jets here. So I am just I got to say it’s a
bit of like a Panthers loyalist them getting back-to-back wins.
Fun. Well, I don’t want you to bake
fun, but like late game wins. I just think it’s so great.
I just think it’s so great and maybe they can come out of the
depths of hell. I have to.
I’m going to go with the keep pounding here.
I’m going to back Carolina in this spot as a road favorite.
Seems like scary as hell, but I forgetting last week, I can’t
shake what I saw two weeks ago versus the Cowboys.
Pat, I can’t get that. That’s like that’s bothering me
more than anything that happened last week with The Jets.
The Jets almost won last week. There.
There is that part of it too. Like they listen.
I have The Jets, they cover the spread.
It was very nice. I wanted.
Them to win so bad, I wanted them to just get one more first
down and I like I like 10 minutes into that game, Paul
sent us a message. Just feels like the sort of day
The Jets might carry a kicker off the field and we were
setting up for the chance and. The Washington or the Bears
carried their kicker off the field.
Well, that was a. That was a very cathartic win
against Washington on the scene of the crown, was it?
The same score I. Don’t think it was 2524.
I thought it was around that close.
I thought why did? The kicker deserve to get ’cause
he hit the. ‘Cause he hit the game.
Winning field and it. Was like a 30.
It was like a 40 yarder those. Black Washington jerseys, Yeah.
Get rid of them, I mowed. On those, those are terrible.
Last year it was 18 to 15 with the Hail Mary touchdown.
Like you were more disappointed in their performance against the
Cowboys than when they ran a fake punt the and the half No
it. Wasn’t the and the half it was
to give? Them the ability to run out of
the clock. You’ll have your rant, but what
I meant by that is like, in totality, the game.
Like to me, Denver’s defense is just against a quarterback and a
team like The Jets, they’re just going to bully the shit out of
them all game. It’s a team like the Dallas who
I feel is so inferior on in certain units that there was
would have been opportunity for The Jets to look normal and they
still look pathetic. And I think Carolina will just
Canalis will embarrass your coach here.
Here’s the problem I think with Carolina that I mean, the the
Road home splits have been pronounced.
But just to kind of give you some sense of this, in the home
games this year, they beat the Cowboys 30 to 27.
They beat the Dolphins 27 and 24, two of the bottom 3 defenses
in the league. Then they beat the Falcons 30 to
nothing at home going on the road this year, 2610 lost to
Jacksonville, 2722 to the Cardinals in a game where they
were down 27 to 3 most of the game.
And then they got absolutely waxed by the Patriots in Foxboro
3 weeks ago for whatever reason. And, and in these three wins,
Rice Young hasn’t looked good in any of them.
Doesn’t. Matter.
If you can’t run, it doesn’t matter.
It doesn’t matter If Dowdle can get 200 yards again, then yeah,
the Panthers are going to win Aaron.
Glenn is getting ready to produce what might be the worst
season of coaching we’ve ever seen.
Like this is not even Nate Hackett doing such a bad job.
You got to fire him in Week 17 before we get to Week 18.
This is not even Urban Meyer or Bobby Petrino realizing that
they just didn’t have it for the pros and got Aaron Glenn has
been around the NFL as a coordinator and a player for
like 30 years and he gets his big opportunity and he has
absolutely no idea what’s going on.
And you know, events about people taking accountability.
The quarterback is unplayable. There’s no accountability there
for him at all. You can cut every punt return
that you’ve ever heard of. It doesn’t change the fact that
you keep letting those people return the punts before you cut
them. You don’t have a game plan.
Your defense is lifeless. They played better on on Sunday,
but they’re lifeless. The offense, it has alienating,
actively alienating. They’re best players.
The defense, the few good players that are on the defense
are feeling alienated, like this is the worst performance I have
ever seen. It’s six weeks in and is there a
single person who thinks that it’s likelier than not he’ll
have a job at the end of the year?
I’ve yet to encounter a person who thinks now Aaron Glenn
doesn’t seem like the one and done type.
Like David Culley was a significantly better head coach
than Aaron Glenn and he got the boot.
Like I can go through the list of the one and duns like Aaron
Glenn performance is one of the all time bad performances that
you didn’t see coming. This, this was not something you
could have anticipated, and here we are, and it’s getting worse
and worse every week. It’s not like he’s a rookie
coach and he’s making some mistakes and they’re learning
from him. They’re making the same stupid
mistakes every week. And when they get one or two
things fixed, they do other boneheaded things like the fake
punt for no reason. It’s just, it’s mass chaos and
nothing seems organized. And I hate to say that because I
thought Aaron Glenn was going to be very good.
A former Jet, you know, he coached a very good defense in
Detroit, particularly when they were single, when they were so
shorthanded. He had some very good schemes.
They got nothing. It’s it’s they are underdogs at
home to Carolina, and justifiably so.
This team is is just so bad. And I’m sorry that some people
don’t think it’s all right for me to complain about how bad my
team, no. No, hold on, hold on.
No one said that it’s not right for you to complain about your
team being bad. You have now made it an
exclusive thing that only you can complain about your team I
want. At least the hand wave of it
could be worse. I could be in this situation,
but but I’m not even getting that.
So that’s what I’m, that’s what I’m trying to enforce and let
me. Throw.
It’s as bad. As it’s this is rock, this is
rock. Bottom say that this.
Season is rock. It could continue to get worse
this year, granted, but this season is the nadir of things.
It can’t get worse. It could be as bad again,
granted, you could have back-to-back winless seasons,
but it can’t get worse than what we’re going through now.
I can’t. I’m going to.
Spin this the other way, maybe, Aaron Glenn was told by Woody
Johnson. Look here, Aaron, we need the
first pick in the draft next year and he’s doing an amazing
coaching job. What if that was the case?
That’s that. That’s what he told his walking
orders were. I do find it funny that he’s
very prickly with the media. That really only works when
you’re 6 and O, not O and six you’re O and. 6 And like he has
to. He has to be self aware enough
to know that this ship is hurtling towards an iceberg, and
it seems like there’s no stopping it.
He has to know that that would be frustrating.
You spend your and I have empathy for him, right?
You spend your whole career in the pros and in coaching to get
this opportunity. You get to sort of do a bit of a
homecoming, come back to The Jets and you’re well touted and
you have this team. The people are going to be
scrappy. They have some good defensive
players. They’re going to they’re going
to show some life and they’re the laughingstock of the
football. Like the Titans are a little
worse, but they’re not a laughingstock.
Like they did the right thing. They fired a bad couple.
Here you go again. Like nobody.
They they have at least a quarterback who might be
something. Do little big league and let
just what’s his name? Gunner Chip Britt.
What’s his name? Britt Johnson.
Britt. He’s like Britt down on the
sidelines, coach the team. Could he do?
Worse, could it go worse, it’s working.
For Ursay’s daughter, she’s on the sidelines.
They’re just playing great. Bring Jeff Saturday in.
He was great at losing every game but one he ever coached.
Bring him in. He won the.
First one, didn’t he? Yeah.
And then they. Then they gave up a 33 to
nothing game. Oh, that’s right, against.
The Vikings on like a Saturday, yeah.
It’s it’s the worst performance I’ve ever seen and I see
absolutely no reason or signs to think it could possibly get
better. So who you taking?
I have to. I have to take the Panthers, but
what? If the first overall picks, like
if there’s a consensus picks, says he doesn’t want to play for
you. There’s other quarterbacks out
there. I I mean, the rock bottom would
be if there’s like 4 quarterbacks you could draft and
three of them turned out to be good and one of them was the guy
that went to The Jets and he sucked, that would be rock
bottom. No, no.
That wouldn’t be rock bottom because that’s happened several
times. That keeps Baker.
Alan Lamar. Yeah, that.
Keep That keeps happening. I, I that that that that.
That’s par for the course. That was the Darnold year,
right? With Baker, Alan Lamar?
Yeah, or. With the year that yes, it was
or what was the Zach? Wilson Year.
Who else went in that draft? That was the bad one.
That was like with Trey Lance, right?
Yeah. Well, Lawrence went first, yeah.
Because. Because the threw that.
Bomb to beat the Rams, yeah. I’m still not sure that we’d be
a whole lot of better shape. We would have ruined him even
more than he’s already kind of you.
Know in trouble. I just, it’s awful.
It’s not getting better. I wish the season would just end
Jamar. Chase win that draft.
Imagine drafting Kyle Pitts ahead of Jamar.
Chase not. Great.
That was an incredible draft. Like really and Horn and and
Parsons certain. Was in that draft and JC Horn
where did. Pitts go, Pitts went. 4th
overall. Oh.
My goodness it went. It went Trevor.
Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Kyle Pitts.
Then it went Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Penny Sewell, Jaycee
Horn, Patrick Sartain, Devotes Smith, Justin Fields, Micah
Parsons, Rashawn Slater and then Mac Jones.
Incredible. It’s a pretty good.
Really good draft. Draft there and even.
Elijah. Very.
But the. Jets had two picks inside the
Top 14, and we’re like, most of these guys are all pros.
The other guys who went, yeah, no, like.
Outside of the sauce Garrett year they tend to whiff year
after the they make the same mistakes every year they.
They love like the 4th best O lineman in the draft.
That’s like their bread. The guy they.
Drafted this year, remember it seems like he’s actually pretty
decent. He’s like one of the few.
Like you can’t trade chips and they have very few you can’t
treat. Yeah, but.
He’s only a non trade chip because everyone snipes on the
party. It’s.
Going to. Be my pick, Daniel, I’ve.
I’ve long said I now I want Cliff Kingsbury.
I’m ready for it. I want him there, I want him and
I want him to pick the quarterback he wants he’s going
to bring. Kyler in You know that, right?
He. I know for sure I want him to
have the whoever it is, you know, like if we have the first
pick, that will attract some offensive minds, like, OK, you
know, like they have the first pick.
They have a really good receiver.
I can build something here with some time.
Because Mr. Johnson is very unlikely to fire three coaches
in three seasons. He will have fired, you know,
mid season he fired Sala. Then he will have fired Glenn at
the end of the year. Even though he has all the money
he wants, he’s not going to be able to fire.
I don’t think he’d fire 3 coaches in three years.
So you’d have a little bit of of time if if you can be
responsible with the team there I’m.
Pretty sure you said that exact same thing about Eric Glenn
coming. In this year, but it happens to
have been a just a unfortunate he just can’t cut it.
Maybe he can go somewhere else and be great again as a
defensive coordinator and like look, Todd Bowles was not a very
good Jets head coach. He went away, he coordinated,
he’s come back. He’s coaching Tampa doing a much
better job. People can learn like some you
know, but but at least there there were moments of success
there the The Jets. Are essentially a farm system
for the rest of the NFL, right? Yeah, they.
Were just being picked clean and I understand.
Look, you’re trying to make me feel better about this.
I know things are awful. I mean this again.
This is cruel. What you’re doing is cruel.
I know it’s bad. I’m.
I’m. Sorry you’re such a victim in
all this. It was just.
Like I am here until the bitter end, and the end is destined to
be bitter. What are you?
Watching there, Jeff. I’m not.
Watching anything, but I’m just thinking about Tim, like
sometimes, you know, when other fans want to talk about their
team, maybe should leave the room.
Yeah, maybe I should. Maybe I should.
Maybe I should? Maybe I should put my.
I’ll just put my. Microphone down and let you
complain about having you know, one of the five best
quarterbacks in football and having a team is leading the
division after six weeks and it has every chance to do anything
in the AFC Is any other team I I should let you hear you complain
about how you only won the lottery twice, whereas you know
I’m living hand to mouth, but you only won it twice and you
know you know other people who won the lottery four times and
So what, what how hard done by you must have been honest to
heavens. It’s cruel.
If there’s no Hubbard and it’s all Rico Dattle here.
Sure. Dattle should run for like 200.
I mean, if he does Carolina, I mean, that’s how they’ve won the
past two games on the back of What makes you think The Jets
are going to have any answer for Rico Dattle eventually?
You just have to be like, this guy can’t get 8 yards of carry
again. And as hard as Harditz pointed
out against Dallas last week, it’s not like he was breaking
off 30 yard runs. It was just a steady stream of
eight yard gains down the field because.
I don’t know. I’d like to know what Steve
Wilkes and Aaron Glenn do together when they were coming
up with a defensive game plan. What are they doing?
Probably just. Watch old Steve Wilco shows like
I. Don’t care how I used.
To be, I don’t think. They have, I don’t think they
have a plan. They they.
Don’t seem I don’t know if Aaron Glenn’s a master manipulator of
in game tactics I’ve noticed. A couple of times he’s got the
headset on and the microphone has flipped up.
I don’t like that. I don’t like that you’d like for
him to pretend. It least you should.
Have the mic on and be talking at.
Least we’ll have his shimmy shake on that block kick in
Tampa Look. That was that.
That’s, that’s the moment, isn’t it?
It’s just all right, you know what?
For everyone’s well-being, let’s move on to the next game.
The coin and I are taped back in The Jets here.
We’re jets going Evers. Go ahead.
Cam will love The Jets. This Oh yeah, Cam will get
that’s right down against a cat. Team No no I.
Get it? I get the reasons why people who
haven’t been, you know, just tortured by The Jets would like
The Jets, but I just I. Patriots in Tennessee?
It’s not supposed. To happen like this, it is early
to mid-october and like, I’m not allowed to have any hope.
I’m not allowed to have any belief.
I just have to like completely look at next year and now like
focus on drafts and coaches and like I get to watch other teams
like the Patriots who don’t deserve anything, yet another
good quarterback and are probably going to have a super
deep run. And how is it fair that they get
to have a rebuild and I don’t get to have anything?
It’s not right. It is not right.
There is. No justice.
Imagine if The Jets could be 7 point favorites on the road in
Tennessee like the Patriots. The Patriots.
Could very well, and I’m not exaggerating, the Patriots could
very well be a team that makes a Super Bowl.
OK, now you’re trying to see is. So erotic.
There’s so much balance that if Drake may plays great in two
games against two opponents, boom, they could be at least in
the championship game with like a chance to make it because I
don’t think that they’re significantly worse than any of
the teams ahead of them. I don’t think they’re amazing,
but I don’t think there’s any amazing teams in the AFC.
The the. Issue with the Patriots, when we
by the time we get to the playoffs, granted they make the
playoffs or win the division, then Cusp will get his credit.
Jeff is that we’re not going to have any idea if they’re good or
bad. They’re pretty stout.
They’re pretty stout. They don’t.
That quarterback’s a shit house. Drake May.
Is good. I’ll, I’ll take the L on that
one. He’s been excellent so far this
season. But just when you run through
their schedule, they just don’t play anyone.
They play the Bills again, they’ll play at the Ravens,
presumably with the Ravens maybe making a run towards the
playoff. We’ll see ’cause if they’re not
making a run towards the playoffs, they probably pump the
year off and trade Henry and do whatever, especially if Lamar’s
not should do. That anyway, I don’t think.
That they should. I they should take Henry.
No, they should. Trade.
You should trade. Henry, I don’t think it matters.
I they could. Come up with a backup running
back and give him 80% of what Henry’s giving them and get
something for a 31 year old running back I think.
If you’re going to make the run, I think that if you are
committed to making a run, being one in five right now and making
a run towards the playoff, I don’t think that you can do it
without Derrick Henry being good, OK?
But like, do they own a time machine?
We still got a. Couple weeks before they have to
make that decision. Granted they.
Look, they lose to the Bears if. They lose to the Bears.
And go one and six. It is I, I.
Agree with you. They I agree.
Win a. Hinge game agreed.
If they lose that Bears game, they’re fucked.
Is a hinge game. But they haven’t.
I mean, like I said, they’re they are favored in every game
the rest of the season. We’ll see.
I got my doubts that that’ll actually be the case, but well,
I mean. If they don’t win, then they’re
not. If they come back and they’re
bad, they’re not going to be favored.
But at this point in time, I wouldn’t check the Advanced
Lions. They are favored in every game.
That’s why they’re still like plus 1:50 to win the division or
whatever it is. Titans aren’t good, but they
have a brand new coach. Jeff, I am so excited for this.
Devotees of the show will recall that Mike McCoy had quite a run
as a topic on this show from exactly 10 years ago before he
was released as the Chargers head coach, and we can revisit
that right now. He looks like.
Ellen DeGeneres, and he wears that woman’s Gulf visor.
It drives me freaking nuts, Pat. Like, you know me, I’m pro golf
fashion and I hate guys that wear that skinny little shrimpy
visor you’d see. I don’t know.
What? What?
But what would you prefer he wear on his head if he wants?
To go visor you got to go high crown like the old ball coach.
Oh. Like like, yeah.
Sneteker like how Keegan are you?
Happy he’s back in your life, Jeff.
Not really. I don’t want to have to see him,
does he? Still wear a woman’s golf visor
is what we need to know. Well, like I.
Get like, listen, it. It makes sense that Miss Amy
would hire Ellen. You know, they’re probably, you
know, part of the same social circles.
And credit to Miss Amy, she was not going to watch Mike Vrabel
beat up Callahan. Vrabel’s going to skull fuck
them though. I’m not going to lie to you, I
think Vrabel’s still kind of a bad coach.
Maybe, maybe, but. Yeah, he didn’t.
He was. Right for them in this moment,
yes, of course, Rabel Rabel’s the type of coach Pat, that
maybe when the Patriots have fully turned a corner and they,
you know, they lose in the playoffs will question like, can
he ever get a team truly over a hump?
But he’s absolutely like in a Marty Schottenheimer mold
approach where like, I want to bring him into a bad situation
and he’s going to make us like respectable again.
And we’ll see if we need a level up after that.
But he’s a guy to take us from, like bring us out of the ashes.
Speaking of which, and I don’t want to go back too much, but
I’m going to for a moment, wouldn’t it be something?
Because it’s clear that the University of North Carolina
Belichick hates the Patriots so much.
To coach The Jets that he would you want to bring that he
leaves. North Carolina at the end of the
year asks for his release and and his way of taking another
pound of flesh out of the crass is that he agrees to being NY JS
HC, which he turned down 26 years ago.
Oh my God, I’m ready for that. Not because I think it’ll be
successful, but I don’t think it will be just because it will be
an opportunity to lampoon the patriots for an entire to watch
all the people on Boston talk radio and on TV, you know,
squirm and try. I I I’d love to see what pretzel
they turn themselves into. I’d love to hear what they have
to say. I’d I am in such a dark place
that seeing them flounder about with Belichick coaching The Jets
would be worth them going 5 and 12/5 and 12:00 and then him
retiring. It would be That would bring me
some level of joy. And I don’t think it’s a 0%.
I guess it’s a .1% opportunity. Maybe they’ll just get Mike
Lombardi coached the team on his typewriter.
He seems to hate the Patriots so much right now that I don’t
think he’s done with revenge. And if you want revenge, come to
us. We hate them too it.
Kind of feels like he’s Mr. Magoo at this point.
I’ll take. It not because I think he’s any
good, because the dynamic of Boston sports will be so
miserable that I’m here for. It miserable with their
quarterback. It’ll be T5 and MVP voting and
they’re yeah. They care more about their
legacy, Jeffrey, than they care about the team that’s on the
field they are all about. That that is that that’s
actually not true. Now that they’re good, they
don’t care about. We’ll see.
When they were bad, they cared about it because they got to
hold on to it. Now they’re good again.
It’ll be. A whole off.
It’ll be a whole offseason of them furrowing their brows and
trying to make excuses. If if Belichick becomes the
coach coach of The Jets, the entire narrative just flips to
Brady was the reason this all happened Had nothing I want to
hear. That I want to hear that out of
their mouths. I want to see them say it
because they were saying very much the opposite when Tom went
to Tampa. I’m like, oh, well, you know,
Tom was a part of it. But like Belichick, really, I
just, I want to see it. I’m here for it.
Anything that that causes dissension in the ranks would
bring me some joy. That’s is that schadenfreude?
Yes. But if my team can be a stalking
horse for that schadenfreude, I’m here for it.
Wouldn’t. This just be the most typical
Jets thing, and wouldn’t it just be a laughing stock?
Yes. When Belichick eventually does
go 2 and 15, they’re like, they really thought they could bring
back this guy who was done for five years.
No, I expect. Him to be terrible, but that’s
OK. I it would be worth it.
It’d be worth it for the memes, it would be worth it for the
quotes and the content I feel like.
That would be mostly about the chance you’re embarrassed.
Yeah, but you know. What?
That’s future me’s problem. Jesus, the fun.
I would have the joy that it would bring me.
Is 7 is 7 enough here? I’m going to take New England I.
Don’t think it’s enough? No it doesn’t.
Feel like enough, but for a few reasons, like New England’s run
defense has been one of the better units in all football so
far. They’ve been shutting down
everyone. Now, Cam Ward did make a pretty
nice pass at the end of that Arizona game when they came back
and won. Yeah, when I have when I bet
against them, Cam Ward can complete a pass.
He doesn’t just arbitrarily drop the ball like when Jeff bets
against them. So that was nice for you.
There’s no Calvin Ridley in this game.
They lose like but is presumably their best playmaker, and then
Pollard and Spears are probably the next two best playmakers.
Ioman. R IO.
Manor is good for his like one for 14 a game and we’re pro.
Ioman R here. I I just don’t see how they
score points. Neither do I.
This can be a facsimile of the of the Carolina game, or it’s
just going to be a route for the Patriots.
The Patriots are the first part of I have a new strategy.
See, this counts as multiple bets though if you do this.
So you’re already Owen Six this year.
I know. And we are really rolling the
dice here and at. Least my super lock being Owen
5. I’m losing one single batch.
I know so. I’ve got this idea and it’s sort
of stemmed off of a comment in the Best Bet show.
I was like, oh, I bet you I could do this.
I’ve got a round Robin money line parlay set up for you
people. So it’s four teams, which means
there are 6 separate two team round Robins.
They’re two team. They’re all two teams.
But we can get to 500 here, 6:00 and 6:00 if these all come in,
Yeah. And you’re going to win a whole
bunch of like -2 seventies. What are you?
Talking about, we are. I I’m.
Putting a veto on this. All right.
All right, well then we will. We will forfeit free money the
week then no like. You can’t.
You can’t. You’re not making six bets as
free money that are all like -300 what are you doing?
This is how this is how low you’ve gotten I.
Haven’t get 1 yet this year. You did.
This is no different than any other year except last year.
Last year you did well. This is every other year I’m so
proud of. Myself, I’d come up with this
new approach and I got to get credit because you kept yelling
at me about why don’t you just take two team parties?
I said why don’t you just take a three teams 6 times?
Get like a get get get AW on the board somewhere.
They’ll be on the money line, parlay, then it.
Was a teaser. Put them on a teaser.
So you were. Going to play a four team money
line parlay is what you were going to do and you’re going to
have just tell me who was on it so I can take a look at what the
round Robin on Patriots. Packers, Broncos, Lions.
Bronco Really. You put the Broncos on it, huh?
Got get a lot after watching their great performance against
The Jets. I got I got no confidence, feel
good about that. So it’s the.
Patriots. The Broncos Who and who the
Lions? And the Packers?
Lions and Packers Lions are Monday night the Packers you
were just shit talking and the patriots.
Where the hell are the Patriots at the patriots.
So this this money line parlay if you just hit all four legs of
it would pay 2 to 1 and you want to round Robin this out.
I’m just. Going to Apparently I’m not
allowed, so we’ll tease the Patriots down.
You. You.
Realize that if one of the games loses, you end up like, do you
just want to do this? Or if one of, if two of these
four teams win, that you’re not an O in the O column.
Is that the only reason that you want to do this?
So instead of being O and seven, if this one loses, you can be
like 1 and 11 or something it’d feel.
Better. Would it?
It would feel better. Would it feel better?
All right, you know what? We’re not going to litigate it
any further. Make New England -1 the first
part of a teaser. All right, so we’re.
Going to do a teaser here. Use them down to -1.
New England -1 So I’m taking them against the spread -7 Jeff,
what are you doing? I use the very graphic
description for what I thought variable was going to do over
there this week. So that would require laying the
seven. All right, so around in New
England. Guarantee.
Maybe. Listen, no Brian Callahan, the
worst coach ever against the spread.
Jeff, maybe. How is Mike McCoy against the
spread way back in the day? Oh, yeah.
No wonder they’re going to get killed.
I don’t know. He was.
He was good until he wasn’t. They’re. 5 early games. 12345
No, there’s 5 because the London.
Game doesn’t count as the London.
Game’s not in the early game. Vegas and Kansas City, there’s
only two. Buys is up.
Next Kansas City by 12 in the spot 45 1/2 is the total I.
It’s too many points yeah. I can’t figure out where the
points on Vegas comes from. Yeah, from the.
Chiefs screwing around? Yeah, that’s.
That’s that’s a that’s a weird bet to make that the Chiefs
screw around too many points. In division, too many points.
The Chiefs shouldn’t be 12 point favorites.
They should be like 8 1/2 or 9 point favorites.
I think there’s a little bit of value on Oakland here.
I’ll take them. But again, they could get
routed. I wouldn’t tease the Raiders.
I wouldn’t wouldn’t play around with it at all in that sense.
But I just think the Raiders will cover.
It’ll be like, I don’t know, 31 to.
Something like that, I kind of agree.
With what he said. I’m going to take Kansas City,
man. Vegas can’t throw the ball down
the field. The only thing, the only way
that they can score points at this point in time is if they
generate a turnover in the other person’s end and they can kick
along field goal. Or somehow they string together
a 21 play drive to move it down the field 4 yards at a time and
they just can’t block. They can’t run the ball because
they can’t block. They can’t pass the ball because
they can’t block. It’s not like Kansas City’s
devoid of getting pressure. This is the man’s Romo game.
I don’t want to pick them to cover a big spread, but they’ll
prove me wrong. The.
Chiefs might be morphing back into the Chiefs.
Rashid Rice is back this week. But if that’s the case, then
they definitely don’t cover. If the old Chiefs at their at
their apex didn’t cover these big numbers, great.
Point. Yeah, I’m just taking the point.
So obviously I’m not disputing that the Chiefs are are about to
like dominate for a few months, but I’ll just keep it in the
number, OK. I am going to take Kansas City
along with the coin, Philly in Minnesota.
This one’s a bit more difficult because like we said, we do not
know who is starting for the Vikings.
It’s it could be Wentz, it could be McCarthy, it could be that
other guy brothers. I don’t know.
What was that? His name no broseph or something
like that I. Don’t think it’s.
Broseph, it was some sort. Of frat name I remember seeing
when he was in London. Had to come in and take a knee.
Jared, do you have the name? I I would be very surprised if
it’s brosive I I. It’s something like brosive.
I want to say. See how much I care about the
third Stringer. I thought they still had
Mullins. Where’s Mullins at?
They’re. Tired is he?
Is Mullins no longer in the league?
I have no idea. Nick Mullins, probably in San
Francisco. Nick.
Mullins is currently a Jags third Stringer.
OK Brosmer. Max Brosmer is the.
Potential star the Eagles here. I’d like them to bounce back
after 2 pretty lethargic games. It’s a play against the Vikings.
I know they came off by. I don’t know who they’re playing
at quarterback. I don’t think Wentz in the
revenge spot scares me that much.
I don’t think we see McCarthy, so I think we probably see
either Wentz or or or Broseph and either which way.
I’m not enticed by that at all. I ain’t Philadelphia.
Yeah, the Vikings are coming off by, but the Eagles are coming
off a mini by. So that sort of vitiates a
little bit of the advantage the Eagles had coming into this.
It’s the only watchable game of the afternoon of the morning.
Slight I I like the Vikings to to be beaten here by by by a
score or two. I like the Eagles here.
I think they write the ship. I’m not ready to write them off.
I’m not ready to write them off either.
But Jeff, I do kind of want to see him do it first because
we’ve seen the Eagles go through stretches like this where you’re
just waiting for them to turn it around and they don’t and they
don’t and they don’t and they don’t.
And then when we can get it back and then you start riding the
eagles again, that may be picking on them when they’re in
the like. The midst of this void is the
way to go. Just two losses in a row, extra
rest, but it’s not. Extra rest versus the opponent
that they have but like. They’re just like they have like
an element of rest. I, I just feel like you have to
I, I don’t like question effort or, you know, when these guys
are trying or not trying have to think we’re going to get, you
know, Max Eagles effort here while the Vikings are still
going through some shit. I would argue this line could
be. You know, I almost.
Would feel like cheating to call it my super lot because I feel
like the line will could do could flip pretty hard.
You think so? Yeah, depending on certain
quarterback announcements, but I’m taking the Eagles here.
This is, I like this one a lot. I’m going.
To take the Vikings because I if Jalen Carter doesn’t play, I
think their defense kind of sucks.
Every time Jalen Carter has not played, they have not been able
to stop him. I get that.
I get that, but if he. Plays then all of a sudden
Minnesota’s going to score like 6 points like he’s.
Going to throw like 4 picks. I mean, he does that like every
game anyway. Well then.
Here you are picking him and. They’ve been winning games doing
that. It’s a part of their strategy.
Just saying I don’t like this. I don’t like it.
I don’t. Know I was.
Looking at the Jalen Carter Defensive Player of the Year is.
There’s a zero. Unfortunately, there is a 0.0%
chance he can break the sack record this year.
He has a 0 percent chance of winning it and you know why?
What he did on the very first play of the season, Sorry, he’s
winning no awards because of that, you think?
So I think. Of another reason or two, Yeah,
well. Yeah, naturally, but like his on
field performance, you know, Bill Romanowski being somebody
in the face on the first play of the game of the season on
national TV. I’m sorry, I actually totally I.
Actually totally forgot that I think.
That disqualifies you from the voters, giving you Defensive
Player of the Game. It’s not.
Even so, I mean, it does obviously what he does on the
field makes that big of a difference, but it’s just so
noticeable when he’s not on the field and what this defense it
shouldn’t be. That noticeable for the offense.
There’s no reason that should. No, but it’s just.
I don’t know what’s going on with their offense.
They can’t block. That’s that’s new to like the
Eagles had the best offensive line of the league three years
in a row and it’s not anymore and that’s rearing its ugly
head. They can’t run the ball at will
like they wanted to. They can’t step back and pass
with time like they want to, like their offense is
disjointed. It all stems from a on the
offensive line that’s not bad, but just isn’t.
It’s, it’s a lot like those Dallas teams from like five
years ago when they had like 3 Hall of Farmers on the offensive
line and then they periodically just started losing guys and all
of a sudden their offense sucked for a while.
That’s happening to the Eagles right now.
Like guys they’ve they’ve lost guys.
Guys are getting old. Like it’s just, it’s not the
same as it was and they have not adjusted to it.
It’s like they’re running the exact same playbook and not
having the ability to block. I’ll take Minnesota.
I think Jordan Mason’s going to gash them.
We’ll see, but. I am.
I will flip this pick. I mean, I can’t flip because
we’re doing it on the show right now.
But I think if we get Vikings. Get extra rest to play the
Chargers next week. Ain’t that horseshit?
They get extra rest to play the Viking, the Chargers.
You know what? Do you mean they’re playing?
Now, yeah, they’re they’re. Both playing like at the same
time? Well, no.
One is playing at 2. I see what you’re.
Saying because one’s playing in the afternoon.
Jeff. Oh.
Sorry, are you Tam where the Eagles played on Thursday last
week? My head just went to a place.
I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m. Don’t you know the sometimes the
things don’t fire properly? I did have two future bets to
look at. I wanted to run by you guys.
Sure, I I mentioned them to Connor and Ryan, and Ryan won’t
disagree with me on the show, even though I can hear it in his
voice that he wants to disagree with me.
I told him I was like, you got to disagree with me.
That’s good news. Fight back with me the best.
Shows are when people tell you how wrong you are.
I agree. I completely agree with you.
There’s lots of fodder. Two futures that I’m looking at
and I made this case. I think I made this case before
the year to you guys was Dan Campbell’s coach of the year.
It’s currently 22 to one. I think if the Lions end up with
the one seed like this, this would have to be Steiken’s the
favorite. Like if the Colts go 16 and one,
he’s going to win coach of the year.
I, I I. Tell it even if they go like 13
and four and they’re like the two seed, they’ll probably win.
I don’t. Know about that because they’re.
Like the team from Outer Space Dan.
Campbell’s kind of owed this award.
I think so is the way. I would feel and would you agree
or disagree with that statement, Jeff?
Yeah, I’ve sort of joked a few years like in the case of like a
tie or it’s like close. Dane Campbell’s going to get one
for like a lifetime achievement award and and.
This would be his narrative here is that he is exceeding
expectations because he lot people thought they would be
worse. And if they end up with the one
seed in the NFC, then they weren’t worse.
They were just as good. And you can just directly
attribute that to Dan Campbell. I just think 22 to one at the
current moment is very good value.
That’s at DraftKings right now. Jeff, I don’t have the ability
to use that book. Can you bet that for me, please?
Yeah, I don’t want to get, you know, me and I’ll, I’ll, I’ll do
it tonight. And.
And the other one is up there as well.
I’m trying to find it at, it’s actually at Cool Bet right now.
So if you have the sponsor of the show, I can make that bet
there. coolbet.com if you’re in Canada outside of Ontario,
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Tyler Warren is 6 to 1 to be Offensive Rookie of the year.
You know the overwhelming favorite is right now.
Jackson. Dart Jackson.
Dart. And then it’s Agbuka.
But Agbuka’s hurt. Yeah, Abuka.
If Abuka’s comes back after just a couple of weeks, he’ll
probably can. If they continue, I wouldn’t
take this because I think Abuka still has an excellent chance to
win this IGBUK. Is plus 250 tower warns 6 tower
warns having just as good of a season as Igbuk is.
It’s just you’re not noticing. I I certainly noticed it on
Sunday because the Colts played the only throw it to Tyler
Warren drive to start the game. That’s a good drive.
So through as a rookie tight end, he has 29 catches for 370
yards, 2 touchdowns, and he has four carries for a touchdown
too. Oh look, I’m not going to
denigrate him at all. I think he’s playing great
football and it. Seems like he’s only stepping
into more and more and more and more.
It’s a lot like the Bauer situation from last year.
I just don’t think that unless Ebuka finishes with like his
first two games pace, he’s even falling off a little bit over
the last little bit anyway. He misses like 3 games.
It’s going to be tough to overcome, yeah.
Not a bet. I like this much better than
like the Dan Campbell one. Really.
You? Don’t like the Dan Campbell?
There’s just. Too many other genuine good
choices right now to pick Dan Campbell.
That’s right. Now, though, it is right.
Now, but I I don’t see Tampa falling off.
I don’t see San Francisco being completely dead and gone.
I don’t see the San Francisco. Would have to win the division
in order for Shanahan they totally.
Could I don’t see the Colts going anywhere.
Yeah, but the. Colts can win that division at
10 and seven and he’s not winning then if they.
Win the division. It’ll be very difficult not to
give him the award because that is the surprise team, I think.
That they would just give Daniel Jones comeback player of the
year. And he would deserve it.
I don’t know, you make a good point.
I’m still not convinced. So those.
Were the two options that I had brings us to the midway point of
the show, which means it is time for a mini version of.
Cuscona. Cuscona.
It’s Cuscona. Cost Connor.
It’s cost Connor. He’s got the hottest stakes with
the highest stakes. He should be president of the
United States. But it’s cost Conan.
It’s cost Conan. Well, it’s going to be me asking
some questions and really it’s going to be Jeff providing a lot
of the content. So for people who aren’t aware,
although I think all the fans of this show were aware that last
weekend was Thanksgiving weekend in Canada.
And one of the traditions we have is that people had gather
for for big meals. And, and Jeff is, is no
different than anybody else. He gathered for a big meal.
I mean, for most of his Thanksgiving, other parts, he
abandoned his children to hang out with barstool celebrities,
but other parts of other parts of Thanksgiving he was spending
with his family having a meal. And so I have, you know, the,
the, the the meal has becomes, has just sort of developed a
life of its own 20. $1000 a plate dinner this is.
Well, so the first question I was going to ask was he, we
won’t get an answer. So preliminarily, the first
question I was going to ask was what is the ballpark of the
expense for this, this, this dinner?
But I feel like you’re not going to tell us.
And if you do tell us, I have to multiply it by like 3 as to what
it actually cost. But nonetheless, I’m going to
ask the question, what sort of ballpark expense is this gourmet
dinner that Jeffrey went to on on Sunday evening?
Why would I? I why would I take away the
mystery of it? So I guess.
That I knew he wasn’t going to answer, but I was going to ask
it anyway in the. Title of the YouTube title.
It’s going to be cus corner Colon Jess 20K dinner that.
That’s fine. That’s fine.
I would. Say like it’s always I don’t
want to take away the mystery, but it has always been
misrepresented. Yeah.
Yeah. Another couple, 4 preliminary
questions before we get into the meat ha ha of it.
First, what’s the dining room set up at this dinner, Jeff?
Is this long tables where multiple families are sitting at
tables? Is that small self-contained
tables where you’re with people? What’s the What’s the layout of
the of the dining area? It’s a bit of both, right?
There’s different groups with different, different sizes.
My party was 10 and we were at like a really large circle
table, but there were parties that I don’t know have like
longer tables that were bigger. We were also probably what I
assume was the early seating, right?
I got young kids. I niece and nephew are younger
kids. Like I’m sure like the, you
know, some of the older folks don’t even walk in there till
8:00 and I went to the ball game.
But it’s in like a room where I’m sure they have like would
host like a wedding reception or something.
OK. Last preliminary question,
what’s the tipping situation at a dinner like this?
No tips. Is it completely forbidden to
give any tips whatsoever? Forbidden, no tips.
In no circumstance or. Forbidden.
Anybody in any way I would? Have for forbid if you nothing
would be more gauche than like whipping out bills at this at
this thing. Now, maybe like if I’m trying to
see like who would get tipped here, you know, maybe like the
host, like if you didn’t like your table or you were near like
the Hendersons and you didn’t want to be near them, Like maybe
you might like maybe, but I don’t even know where you would
tip someone. We were at table 17.
That was a good sign. So you’re not.
Ripping off a couple of brown bills and laying them on the
table when you walk out. But Oh my God, you’d be kicked,
you’d get, you’d get a letter. So this.
Is what I was asking that? Is like, legitimately frowned
upon? OK.
So I like that. OK, that’s great.
You also. Wouldn’t pay the money to go to
the. City.
Well, no, not not. I think it’s.
Included in the astronomical I was.
Also like approached to like put my phone away.
But you didn’t, did you? Well, I was looking for, you
know, trying to buy late baseball tickets, watching
football, but I was directed to like a chair.
If I want to be on my phone I have to go like sit in a
specific chair. I.
Mean this is like outside of the of the room that’s.
So you did. So you did go outside and watch
the Chargers? No, this was after this was the
Chargers were thankfully on the early window and it was a pretty
shitty 4:00 PM slate. I don’t feel like I missed much
of anything, but I was just Hawking my Hawking my phone.
Like just buying late baseball tickets last.
Thing on preliminaries, I guess this is buffet style, right?
Yeah. Like stations?
Is. It technically permissible but
not permissible to go back for thirds and fourths anything.
You want, so there’s. No shame The amount.
Of like plate clearing that is going on like there, it’s almost
like annoying the level of like service clearing your plate or
you’re just like at any moment, like you got full autonomy to go
up. You, you go you, you, yeah, you,
you go on another mission so the.
Car the carvers aren’t judging you because you’ve gone up for a
third or fourth. Oh, I.
Can’t speak. I can’t speak to that.
I’m sure I am. Sure they would.
And if you’d like the oju and, you know, they’re all different
gravies, you know. Yeah, I’m sure.
Yeah, I I would. Sure they know.
I like it. I like it cut thin, you know?
So I like to, you know, have a little conversation, OK?
So we, we have each of the menu items up here.
We’ll, we’ll start with the cold selection, which is menu three.
Jared, if you’re looking for it up on the screen here, you know
there’s. One picture I didn’t take and it
would have been the breads. Oh, there’s lots of breads.
The funny thing about this, and I, I’m guessing why you have so
many questions, is because this sounds like the exact sort of
thing that you would love to go to 100.
Percent. I am dying of jealousy.
Can I be all right? Let’s get this out of the way.
Like everyone like open invite. OK, open.
Invite good to. Know, but unfortunately.
Pat, Pat, the wife. The kids open invite I I.
Showed my wife that my wife was very like this.
Looks great. Yeah.
No, if listen that you guys got your own family.
Do your own Thanksgivings if they’re ever here.
I’m telling you, open invite. Yeah, like my wife.
My wife would be like honored to have Tim there.
I think I would. Feel guilty that you’re like
spending a mortgage payment on my Thanksgiving dinner.
Like. In.
In fairness, I would be paying it I’d.
Feel guilty that you would have to.
Pay. When I say open invite I mean
like on the House, OK? You know what I did for my
Thanksgiving, Jeff? I would hope that would like
just quickly clarify in some way put people in the level in the
head space of what that might cost if I just invited three
adults and two children of it’s you know I yeah for on like as
my treat you didn’t. Spend your Thanksgiving with
barstool celebrities. I spent.
My Thanksgiving with you, you did here live on air so I could
afford for nine people in my family to have delicious Turkey
and eat at home I spent. My Thanksgiving with you, you
didn’t. Celebrate it on Monday.
I I did. But I spent my Thanksgiving
Sunday with you, yes? I.
Have a. Question you.
There’s no way you knew who that person I ran into at the Jays
game with. So you obviously like had to
reach out to someone else to be like, who is that right, people?
Asked me questions as to who was looking after your children
while you were hanging out with barstools and what a.
Second, wait a second. I left a meal.
There were like five other adults that are like part of my
group. What do you mean?
Like who’s looking after my children?
It’s. Thanksgiving Sunday and you were
drinking a Coors Light in an alley.
I I got out, my schedule was tight because I did Thanksgiving
dinner and I left at about like 6:45 to go to the Jays game.
So I wasn’t there long. I didn’t get as many portions as
Tim would have wanted. I certainly didn’t beat the
house. Would have been difficult
regardless. And yeah, I wanted to crush a
few Blue Mountains and and and RIP a cannon before I walked
into game one of the LCS. What are we talking about,
people? Were very like uppity about
because you said you drink Coors Light.
I said if I was there, like I’d be crushing like Michelob Ultra.
And they were like, well, they turned into you.
All of a sudden it’s like, well, those beers don’t even tell a
story. Basically.
Like we had a fucking sporting event there.
There are certain beers that you drink at sporting events on the
golf course. They’re the lightest watery
beers that you can find. I.
Like, because you’re going to be drinking a whole bunch of.
Them like on a golf. Course, like a Bud Light Lime or
a Corona I would far prefer over like a stout, yeah.
I just yeah, when if you’re having.
Like a nice meal and you have a beer, then yeah, we’re talking
about a different story, 100%. We’re just like.
Crushing beers. Just get the the shittiest beer
possible. That’s you’re.
Not going for a double IPA. I like, I love Coors Light.
And if I it’s weird, like, yeah, it’s like my a those cold
mountains. They just they just do it for
me. But no, like I’m no, no, no,
yes, it’s Thanksgiving, but my wife understands.
You know, it’s not going to end well.
But I don’t mean our marriage. Our marriage is great.
I mean the J season, but like my I’m not being told I’m not going
to like game one of the ALCS like it just the once a decade
if I’m lucky thing that one of my teams might do.
I my wife no like that she doesn’t hate me.
Like what are you talking about? Who’s going to watch my kids?
Shame on those people, Bud Light.
Has this promotion on and it shows how out of touch I am.
Bud Light has this promotion on where you can buy cans that have
football teams on them. So I was like, OK, I want to get
some Bud Lights. Maybe I’ll get some years old.
So maybe I’ll get some Jets cans and I want it.
And so, but they’re only seemed like it’s only available in the
36 regions. Do.
You know what the 36 pack of Bud Light costs these days?
Let. Me see in I was in shocked.
And I I was so shocked I did not buy them.
You can buy. Bills ones here we get the bills
cans. These are like a.
Mix are you talking? About in Canadian prices, Yeah,
like the. Liquor store I want.
I want a mixer back with every team higher.
Really. 75 bucks? 7171 bucks for 36 beer I just.
I couldn’t, I know that’s like $2.00 a beer, but I was like, I
am am not going to drink 36 beer in a year so I’m not going to.
I mean, just out of a fight of fancy, I thought maybe I’ll get
some Jets fans 5. Milliliters or like a bit bigger
one. Just a.
Regular 355 you know just 36 pack of Bud Light you can buy.
Like an OK half bottle of wine for that.
OK, I’m sure you could. You.
Could I? I don’t know what.
I don’t know what things cost had.
Every logo in it I think. There were multiple logos in
there, but I don’t know. I didn’t know if I was going to
get a multi pack, would it be all one anyway?
So anyway, either which way, unless I had seen a Jets can in
a little handle where you can like spin it to see I wasn’t
spending $71 on beer, then you’d be.
Down another $71 trying to chase the break for The Jets game.
Tim, why do you have questions about salad so?
I just want to go through every single course.
So the cold section features a Caesar salad, an Ontario mixed
greens with Caesar house and balsamic dressings, assorted
dips and spreads with hummus, Baba ghanoush, tziki, Greek
salad, heirloom grape tomatoes and a caprese salad.
It’s a quinoa with roasted squash, dried cranberries and a
champagne vinaigrette. How?
Good. Was that salad?
Jeff He. Didn’t have it someone.
At the table had to have had it I.
I I didn’t go hard on salad the. Champagne vinaigrette with the
with the squash and the quinoa. If we’re definitively ranking
the salads there, that’s got to be one that sounds so amazing, I
feel like. You would walk up and get these
deviled eggs with paprika. I would have.
Tried a deviled egg? I like deviled eggs feel like.
You’d have like 10 of them, no? No, but like so you didn’t go
hard on this. Like to me it seems like the.
Shrimp, I got some seafood. I I did like the meat board, but
I didn’t I, I was, I was tight for time.
I was off schedule. I did not hit a salad that.
Salad sounds amazing and I’m very jealous of you’re not
going. To beat the buffet with a bunch
of salad. I don’t.
Think you can beat A20K buffet? I don’t think Joey Chestnut
could beat the buffet. People have.
Watched you on custody, Tim. It’s food.
Yeah, it’s food. The.
Dinners that, like Pat probably has at a restaurant on a
Saturday night probably cost more.
Whatever. Speaking of.
Which, as many people know, my wife is quite pregnant at this
point, and she really wanted steak on Saturday.
So I was like, let’s go to the place where we got the Wagyu
steak. I was like, but she didn’t want
to go out. She’s like, I just don’t want to
go anywhere. I just want to have the steaks.
I was like all right, you order it I’ll go pick it up and it’ll
be great so I was like get me the Wagyu stake.
It was like 400 bucks or something like that I got her
1-2, so that was up to 800. Oh my.
So our entire bill was like 1300 bucks or something.
I. Went to two baseball games for
your two stakes. But here’s the thing.
Sounds like he. Enjoyed himself more, I know.
I did probably. I think he did.
So. I get the call back like 5
minutes later because I told my wife I was driving home from the
golf course. I was like, yeah, let’s go get
it. She’s like, oh, they, they don’t
do take out on weekends. I was like, you fucking kidding?
What you kidding me? So then we had to get like the
next best steakhouse. And in this city, the the best
steakhouse, the next best is a significant drop off and the
steaks sucked. It obviously wasn’t quite as
expensive at the same time, but just it was very disappointing.
$1300 bill is like, yeah, you better believe we’ll let you do
the take out. I’d rather.
Go to the keg 13 times. Yeah, listen.
It’s all it’s all got our own value algos.
I haven’t been there since I was there with you 2.
Years ago, the bougie $40 pizza, I’m like, that’s four trips to
Domino’s. I think there’s a distinction
though between the bougie pizza and like the highest end of
steak, no? I’m just saying it’s point.
Taken you. Know we were.
Doing it as a celebration? Yeah, No, for sure.
And we didn’t have to spend any wine money because we don’t
drink anymore. Can’t wait to drink again.
It’d be great. OK, Not real fun to sit there
and open a bottle of wine by yourself.
Sure it. Isn’t it’s it’s not a great.
Great move. OK, let’s.
Move on to some of the stuff because I do have some like
burning questions about a couple of these hot selection.
Mushroom and green beans casserole with crispy onions.
All gluten free by the way. Brussels sprouts with smoked
bacon, squash and mixed beans. Root vegetable and tofu Curry
and vegan pulao that’s vegan and gluten free.
What else we got here? Maple roasted heirloom carrots
and root vegetables. Cheesy mashed potatoes grilled
organic salmon with dill cream and mustard sauce.
That would be all over. These Brussels sprouts and these
root vegetables, that’d be that’d be my selection here from
the hot section Brussels. Sprouts with bacon sounds
amazing. Cheesy potato sounds amazing.
What did you get of that, Jeffrey?
How good was that? I definitely hit up that salmon.
I definitely hit up the, you know, if anyone knows me, like I
love a good mashed, you know, that’s look, just look at me.
It was delicious. I don’t know what it was called,
but there’s something that like kind of was like a pasta, you
know, I’m actually trying to find the menu on myself.
There’s an anti. Pasta on there.
I saw there was a thing. Yeah.
So. I had a bit of, I had a bit of
that and you know, pick, pick through some of the good stuff.
The. Seafood section chilled poached
shrimp, snow crab claws, freshly shucked oysters and smoked
Atlantic salmon. Oh my.
Goodness, that’s all stayed away from.
All this I like seafood, but I’m not here to eat seafood.
Oh. The poached shrimp must have
been so good now, Jeff said he had a significant amount of
seafood. So what of what of those did you
like the best, Jeffrey? I had some shrimp, I had some
salmon. Yeah.
How do I put this? I’m going to say this here.
I don’t think this needs to be like leaped out, you know, when
I’m just, you know, blessed because there’s like options as
to like which club buffet we’ll go do.
But we picked this one as opposed to the place that I’ve
taken you guys because it’s less Jewy.
OK. Well, you can say that at least
I. Would, I don’t know, It’s just
like different, like how the food, not like the food is good,
but it’s just like it’s good everywhere, but it’s like
different. There’s not like some Jewy spin
on like all of it. You’re just.
Getting the the food that you order is what you’re saying
you’re having. A gentile Thanksgiving dinner?
Yes. And I’m there for it.
And a piece like I love, I love the room.
I love the room. I love the room.
Yeah, the shrimp, the shrimp, the the salmon.
I was a snow. Crab.
I was moving quick. I didn’t like go double backed.
I was just worried about. I was just worried about the,
the, the base, the Yeah, never mind, OK, Just worried about
baseball. I mean, this is Rich coming for
me, but this is easily the most out of touch segment we’ve ever
done on the show. Oh.
Whatever. I don’t, I don’t really care.
I think this is great. I want to know more about but
wait till we get to the ones I just like.
The media buffet at the Presidents Cup.
But like which? I love, but, well, we’re going
to There’s two in particular I really want to focus on.
The carvery had roast. Beef striploid with mini
Yorkshire puddings, horseradish and a mustard selection aux Oh
man and roasted Turkey. Turkey with squash and apricot
stuffing, Turkey gravy and cranberry sauce which.
Did you go for Jeffrey? Did you go for both?
Both. Yeah, both.
Is the move which How was the apricot and squash stuffing in
the Turkey? I don’t.
Think I’ve ever heard anyone say apricot?
Perfectly valid pronunciation has.
Anyone show of hands? Has anyone ever heard anyone say
that? You know what?
You’re a New Girl person, I think.
Yeah, she says. Apricots do they make?
Fun of her for saying it like that.
Yeah, OK. That makes sense.
Nick does. Tell me about Jess.
So yeah. Come is Jess, isn’t he?
Tell me about the stuffing, Jeffrey.
I’m dying to hear about the stuffing.
I think he. Has less information than like
you want. Him to have I’m not like I like
I don’t know, I’m not enough food yet.
I don’t know how to explain like food.
Like, what do you mean like tell you about he’s going to tell.
You it was good like. Like, was it really savory?
Like was a lot of summer savory in it?
Was it shoved the shit? Into his mouth like a normal
fucking person. What were you going on about?
And it almost seemed like there was stuffing, like, built into
the Turkey. Well, yeah.
That’s the Turkey is stuffed with stuffing.
Why it’s called stuffing? I don’t know.
It was fine. I’ll be honest, I probably ate
around it. I like the white meat around it.
I mean, I’m. Sure, the white meat was
delicious, but like you go to have the stuffing and the all
right, fine. How was the horseradish on on
the beef? I I.
Didn’t have any horseradish. No, no, Jeffrey, you’re.
Invited. Oh my goodness, the best of
honor, the fresh horseradish sauce slathered on that beef.
Oh, man. So I mean, I did I.
Got the I got both, like the ojus and the gravy.
He’s like, that’s, that’s gravy. ‘S fine, but like the
horseradish gives it that punch yeah, I’m.
Not looking at it for listen. Oh.
Man, Oh my goodness, the the next.
Section of the dinner was called Kids Corner.
Yeah, I have. A question.
No you don’t. The 1st.
Jeff sent us all of these menu items and you looked at them all
and the first thing you said is like, Oh my.
God, they had chicken. Fingers so my.
Question was going to be because I would have gotten some is this
something that you there’s an age cap?
No, because like, you remember that scene from Ted?
When? Liam Neeson is trying to
convince Ted he’s allowed to buy the box of tricks, even though
he’s an adult and he wants to know if there’s any rules
against buying tricks. The tricks are only supposed to
be for kids, but he’s an adult. He wants to know if he’ll be
followed by the police. I wanted to know, would it be
frowned upon if you had a cause to me?
Like I would go for multiple rounds and one of my rounds
would most definitely have been just this section.
So read what’s on the on the section Mac.
And cheese chicken fingers I I’m guessing you wouldn’t take any
of the steamed broccoli. Maybe you wouldn’t.
French fries, carrot, cucumber and celery sticks with ranch
dip, crudite and cheese and crackers.
Yeah, like that all sounds awesome.
What kind of dips did they have for the chicken fingers?
So they have like this incredible, like, I guess it’s
like a plum sweet and sour sauce.
It’s delicious. And yeah, Tim, it’s not frowned
upon. You can go up there as any age.
There’s so many kids around. You’re essentially just like no
one would question that you weren’t.
Even if you wanted for yourself, that’s fine.
But like, no one would look at you weird.
There’s lots of parents like getting food for for for young
kids. And after my meal, like before
dessert, I definitely crushed a couple fingers and I was.
Going to say, what did you get from the ticket, ’cause you got
to go to this, you got to go and.
Listen, listen, I will. Now you can mock me for not
touching the horseradish or some seafood or a salad.
There will never be a chicken finger buffet that I walk by.
I would. Have been more disappointed in I
would have been more disappointed in you if you
hadn’t gotten chicken tenders than anything else like.
It it does not matter where on earth if I am somewhere sounded
so. Good, it just said chicken
fingers. Oh, I bet you said it.
Sounded so good. It was done just right too.
They were just right and they’re.
They’re fine. They’re they’re deep fried.
Chicken fingers What was the? Battering.
Was it like that crumbly batter or was it?
Crispier, dude, trust me, they do it right, all right?
I bet they do next. Time you’re you know what, next
time you’re at my club, like I actually got to get you
something I think. OK, yeah, yeah.
Like I almost like when I saw like Ludwig at the Canadian
Open, I told him like, get them to get you some chicken fingers
indoors. They’re that.
Good, yeah. Yeah, they’re like.
Dairy Queen chicken fingers, you know.
What that’s, that’s a that I would say like in a tier close
to that’s. High praise because those are
like I love them from JQ. You like them tossed?
You like sauce on the side? I I like them tossed.
That’s the way to go. You got to toss those ones in
the Honey BBQ. That hits.
Just right. How is the steamed?
Broccoli, Jeff. I didn’t have any but I even
actually managed to have some cheese and crackers because my
like 1 1/2 year old likes always likes little.
So what? Are they so are these like like
like a big cheese like it’s a kids section?
So is it like no cheese crackers or like slices of?
Cheddar cheese and like plain crackers like I’d be into.
That I’d be into I wasn’t sure like when someone says like a
cheese and crackers platter like this super, super high end place
for dinner, you figure it’s going to be like a variety of
soft cheeses and you know, no, it’s.
Not like Brie at the kids table, this is.
What I was thinking like surely it couldn’t be that it would be
like the stuff people want like Swiss and cheddar and mozzarella
just like. Cheddar slices like cut in
little triangles. All right, well, that makes me
feel good, so. Upon getting this, as mentioned,
number one thing that you pointed out was Oh my God,
chicken fingers. No, it’s the number.
It’s the number two thing I did. No, no.
It was the number one thing. We’re going to give you the
number. One thing and then you.
Got to this on the dessert menu. Oh.
Man, I’m so excited to talk about this classic.
Pumpkin pie, Flourless chocolate cake, Whiskey, chocolate pecan
pie, chocolate espresso tart, mini butter tarts, mini apple,
cranberry tart, artisanal cheese and crackers.
That’s your fancy cheese and crackers right there.
Fruits and berries, grapes and dried fruits and jello with
gummies in them and. So which was?
Number one, I Oh my God, Oh my gummies in jello.
I had to ask if they were. Gummy bears.
And indeed they were. And like I so did they did they
use the sparkling water to make the jello or or Stillwater did
the gummy bear you can do either or did the gummies?
Like I was thinking about this, I’ve never heard of before
people putting gummy bears in jello.
It feels like to me when you’re making it, the gummy bears,
because of their heaviness, would sink to the bottom of the
bowl and so you wouldn’t get like a very dispersed amount of
gummy bears through the jello. They would all sink to the
bottom. Was it red jello?
Was it blue jello? Yes, but.
They also put gummies like on top of each like little.
That’s so that’s so good. So like did they cut it into the
squares like you see on TV, like those big cubes or was it like
shot? Glasses like little shot glass
like you know. That’s that’s so good, OK.
And so like, how good was that? Did they come?
A little bit of whipped cream on top too, You know I’m.
Sorry to say I didn’t think I needed to try it on.
Jeffrey interesting in. Trying it is fucking jello and
gummy bears. Who’s ever had gummy bears?
And that sounds so amazing, you know, I went.
With the apple crumble and the butter tart instead, I was
going. To add to the only other one, I
mean like, I love pumpkin pie. I like all pies pretty much.
I wanted to ask about the whiskey chocolate one because
that sounded very intriguing. Like I assume there’s no like I
know there’s whiskey, there’s probably like no age
requirements. So like who could or couldn’t
eat it? Or was it like restricted to
just adults because they’re whiskey?
In it or get you drunk, OK? And like, I wonder, like, was
the whiskey mixed in with the chocolate?
Was it like mixed into the crust?
Was it like part of the whipped cream?
Like for the pecan soaked in it? I didn’t know I was going to be
quizzed. No one.
Knew that you were going to be quizzed.
Really. You didn’t think I was going to
have, So what? You wanted Jeff to do was try
everything that they offered all the.
Stuff that he should have known people wanted to hear about that
I. Wanted you, wanted to hear
about. Did you really?
Not see those gummy bears in jello?
You didn’t. The idea of gummy bears in jello
is such AI want to do this and I’m going to do this.
I’m going to make some jello with the gummy bears.
It sounds like so much deliciousness all wrapped up in
one. What color was the jello?
Red, that’s pretty, pretty safe, right?
Give. Us your definitive ranking of
jello colors I like. Lemon jello the best.
So that’s one, then orange, that’s two, then red, that’s
three, then grape, that’s 4. Then there’s a gap.
Then there’s blue, which I don’t particularly care for.
And then there is what else there is others.
Lime, you know, you know, I like have two citrus really high.
I don’t find lime jello works as well.
And I’m sure there’s others that I’m thinking of.
I’m I’m forgetting, but that’s my my jello list.
But red is sort of like your default.
It’s your base one. It’s like if someone has like
close their eyes and they imagine a bolt of jello, you’re
going to imagine the red jello that with like the horrible
gummy bears and you know, they’re horrible.
They’re like, they’re the top notch gummy bears.
I think they’re the good ones. Yeah, they’re the they’re the
good ones mixed all together in this jello.
This sounds so good. I would have gone for fifths of
this. Maybe there’s I’m trying to I’ll
try to find out like how many times a year they they do it.
Obviously they do it for Christmas and and I’d presume
Easter, but they might even do it for like Mother’s Day and and
Father’s Day. I got to it’d be like my honor
at this point to like get feed you a buffet watch you if you’re
not paying for it, would you like be determined to beat the
house or that would be you would tone down I would.
Want to try every single thing on the menu?
I thought particularly if there’s no shame involved, if
there’s no like there’s no which all you can eat when you when.
You go back to the fucking kids table three times to load up on
more chicken fingers. Who the fuck is this guy?
Like the chicken fingers sounded awesome.
Are you saying chicken fingers for the Mayo media partner?
Real you might need to like send me a picture of like what you’d
be planning on wearing. It’s normal clothes.
Normal clothes for you is different.
I still might need a picture I presume.
This is the sort of place that you need to wear a jacket.
No, but like if you’re not going to wear a jacket, you should
like have a sweater or like a button up basically.
What he’s saying is don’t show up dressed like Marty McFly like
you do half the. Time I’m.
Just saying I respect that. Even.
Though I know you would like make effort to like like follow
and respect, there’s still like I still like need to.
I would still need to approve your outfit I you.
Know what? That is a very, very small ask
and one I am happy to oblige. There’s one more station here.
What are we forgetting? The hot apple and pear cinnamon
crisp or the live Gelato station?
Yeah, I don’t. Know what that means?
A live Gelato station. It’s not just like a.
Guy working. Like.
You know, like an ice cream, like an ice cream truck, but
like one of those ice cream carts that have like two or
three. Things.
Did you try the? Gelato, was it good?
I ate. Cinnamon apple with like a
butterscotch ripple swirl like topping.
It was it was good. And then I left and I I watched
the Jays lose. I.
That would be a happy Thanksgiving.
My goodness that my wife. Was like like you like she was
so full and so happy. She loves it.
There it. Sounds, and I mean this like I’m
extremely jealous. It sounds awesome.
I think it’s great that you go. Everything there sounded
phenomenal. I would have wanted to try
everything that sounded good. And if there’s no shame about
going out multiple times, that’s even better.
Tipping. Honestly, this sounds, this
sounds like a slice of heaven, but like it’s the gummy bears
and the jello that like, that’s how you know you’re at a class
place. That’s how you know you’re at a
class place. Fixated on what might be the
cheapest item on the The breadsticks might be like nice
fancier than this, but like. It’s it’s indicative of the fact
that you’re at a very high class place they’re.
Not jello gummy bears. They’re not just.
Rolling out plain jello, they’re going through the effort of
like, infusing them with with gummy bears and adding more to
the top. Like a dessert inside a dessert,
it sounds. You know those are for like the
kids, right? It’s for.
Everybody, you just heard Jeff say everyone could have it and
it wasn’t at the kids table. It was in the dessert list.
It’s for everybody. Jello is not just for children.
Jealous for everybody. No, it’s.
Like, here’s the thing, it is the one dessert.
They’re like all the kids. Like I can only speak to our
table. Like that’s what they all get.
Even the flourless chocolate cake.
It’s too like rich and decadent for like a kid to like, I don’t
know what I’m trying to say. Like the only thing really there
was the ice cream and the jello for kids.
You would love a kids buffet is what you would love.
But like, I’d love like don’t get pat both of.
You do not get. Me wrong.
The only thing that kids buffet was missing is like little
grilled grilled cheeses. Oh.
Man, wouldn’t that have been great?
Like little grilled cheese sandwiches.
Like little grilled cheese sliders.
Yeah, that’s. Oh man.
That would have been so and and meatballs.
It could have used some meatballs mini.
Pizzas. No.
Yeah. Like bagel bite style?
Sure. I’d I’d go for like homemade
classic ones. On your mind.
These are like holiday buffets, but like every Sunday at these
clubs, there’s like nice, oh, I’m sure like Sunday brunch
buffet. Oh sounds.
It’d be. My honor to to treat you to a
buffet it would be. My honor, it would be my honor.
You know what? It would be my honor to actually
let you do a buffet circuit of buffets I have access to.
Oh my. Goodness.
Like that? Sounds so good.
It would be a great honor of mine to get you into multiple
buffets in in a weekend. OK.
Well, this was This mostly exceeded my expectations.
Disappointed. There were a few things you
hadn’t tried, like I. Listen not people like you like
you would not be proud of me. I don’t take full advantage of
it. Can you scout?
This in advance like the menu that you furnished for me was
that available on their website like a day before 2 days before
you can sort of game plan what you might want to save room for
you want to. Know something at a separate
place where I was golfing and then I had lunch and then I saw,
as Pat would say, an old lady. Ask someone to see the menu for
the Thanksgiving buffet. I would.
Love I guess. Like, yeah, they’ll have it for
you if you want to. If you want to scope it out,
they’ll have it I think. That would be really nice to do
then I like to have a game. It’s been grossly misrepresented
the like the ballpark. I I almost like how it’s been
played up that I don’t want to like diminish it by telling you
like the probable ballpark because it’s just it’s. 4 digits
if it’s one. No for the whole.
Family for the whole family, everything included.
This is. Jeff’s. 20K dinner.
OK, what do you? Think it costs to feed like 10
people going to a restaurant though.
I have. No earthly clue.
A lot. What do you think that the bill
was for our Mayo Media dinner? Well.
But that included Alcohol Unlimited.
Alcohol probably should have cut people off, but here we some
some people. $4000. He’s got an.
Audible gasp from Jared am I like.
Way too high or way too low? How do you not know which one it
is? I actually don’t know.
You just said that 12 beer cost 7036 beer was 75 bucks I would
say. Cam had that much of red wine.
He had four. 1000. Dollars worth of red wine.
I. I had to like we had like real
bottles at the beginning. I switched over to house wine
because Cam just kept annihilating the bottles.
I told him that, you know, we don’t have I I apologize to him.
He was like, there was no Mel back.
I know that he had diving. He’s like, got to screw it.
Know who it was at the table who said that?
Cam had such fantastic table awareness that he can keep
waving his hand and not hit anything and not hit a single
thing while he was waving his hands right I think.
It was Rob, maybe. Someone had like.
It was like a perfect description of the table.
I waved his. Hands he like you know, he wants
to try what you ordered so he’s like in on everything.
But again, it it’s it’s like an honor to be at a table beside
Cam eating just like it’d be with you getting the treat well.
I’m honestly, and I’m not joking, like I’m honored just to
hear about it like it. Like it’s like, it’s awesome to
hear about the dinner. I love getting the photos.
You know you. Can do things like this around
here. Getting the photo you would.
Have to pay for it I loved. Seeing it all, I like like in my
mind, experiencing it as you were experiencing.
But I guarantee you like the nice like like the finer hotels
in Halifax probably like crazy Thanksgiving Christmas buffet.
Sure they do. We were going to do one on
Monday because I with my side of the family, because my wife’s
side of the family came on Sunday.
But apparently my my side of the family also did something on
Sunday. They just knew not to talk to
me. Then they knew I was working on
a Sunday. They just had dinner without me,
but we’re going to do something on Monday with them and we were
going to go down to a hotel. We looked into it.
Then it was sold out so we couldn’t go.
I bet you it was very similar to this.
I bet you it. Was really good.
Did they have the jello with the gummy?
I doubt it. Like I.
Don’t want to like beat this to a pulp?
You can make that at your house. Right now I was.
I want you to take a. Picture of this I was.
So taken with that idea that it like made me happy for the
entire you’re like. Fascinated by like the most
basic thing there. It’s true.
Well, no, I also. I mean, I I must say I do not
get as fascinated with buffets because I don’t like to
completely gorge myself and overeat.
Just it’s too much food. Well, the thing.
Is like we don’t see buffets that often anymore.
Buffets are you could. You could go to buffets, I think
it’s a. Real treat to have a buffet.
Just. Want to take it for?
You go to Mandarin. No, I think it closed down.
There is there is one like down the street that’s a Chinese
food. Oh yeah.
That’s that only is very good though you.
Don’t care, you have no discernible taste.
People who are larger. Have a better sense of what’s?
Good or no They. Don’t they eat that?
That. That is absolutely not true.
Not true at all. People who are larger, you think
have better taste. They don’t.
They have no discernible taste. They’ll eat anything, no?
Please, those grilled cheese sliders.
Now, Jeff, I can’t stop thinking about them.
They weren’t even there. No.
There, I can get you. I know a place that does those
though. Another thing you could just
make, I know. But it’s something about like
being there, like, you know, it’s done just I love.
I love yeah, listen, getting to crush from my kids like chicken
finger grilled cheese plate. Even I’ll go to like a wedding
or, you know, a bar mitzvah and I might always still find my way
to the kids buffet because, you know, that’s where the chicken
fingers and grilled cheese are grilled.
Cheese I I found that grilled like mini grilled cheeses are
pretty common. Like wedding intermediary
intermediary food like the midnight snack or something like
that. Not chicken.
Fingers. Like who says no to a chicken
finger? Sure.
But it’s it’s a wedding, you try to class it up a little bit, I
bet. You these were very classy
chicken fingers. I don’t think you can.
And the way Jeff described that, like sauce, like that sauce
sounded like, he said. It was fucking plum sauce, like
a sweet. And sour plum, it’s like a
nicer. Cocktail finger spa.
I bet it was. Real good.
Listen, it’s yeah. You got that fancy plum sauce.
You’re not just. Picking that up off the shelf,
Listen. I promise you I’d give Tim a
taste he would vouch for again. He he has given a 10 out of 10
review to 38 pieces of food he’s never had already.
Yeah, and he’s also given like 10 out of 10 reviews to Gruel.
Not gruel, it’s an MRE the. Only thing that he didn’t like
was that pickle burger from KFC and still that was a 5 1/2 he’s.
Fan of the Mcveggie either. You’d like the the spicy masala.
You were all shockingly delicious.
You could. Eat a You eat a masala about as
fast as Dylan Gabriel throws A6 yard pass.
It’s true. And you eat a like a psychopath
around it. Many people have been talking
about it. I just like.
To reward myself with the best bites at the end.
But anyway. Let’s get back.
To the game. Sorry, I I know we indulged way
too long there, but I just, Yeah.
I feel like whatever this one. Was for you, but this was.
Me, I really, really, really wanted to talk about it.
And so now I feel much better that that itch has been
scratched, you know? What?
You’ve been happy. To like, call me last night to
have done this. I If we weren’t doing a show, I
would have wanted to do that. Yes, this conversation would
have taken place on a telephone yesterday if I knew we weren’t
going to be doing the show today.
Could we get jello with gummy bears on cost eats?
Maybe. Wouldn’t that be something?
Maybe he’ll have to make them and then bring them in, but you
only get one shot at making them.
You can make them. The night before, you know what?
You. Can make them here while we’re
watching. Makes them on.
Sunday morning you could make them at 1:00 kickoff.
They’d probably be ready for the Sunday nighter.
So. Maybe we’ll film you doing that.
Sure do. It do it, Yeah, sure.
Get them a bag of Haribos and go to town buddy.
I there. There is something that we have
to start doing a few cooking shows because I’m now that my
wife has been at home for a while now, we’re all of a sudden
redoing the entire first floor of our house.
So our kitchen is getting completely redone.
So I’m trying to figure out a way where I can get the company
to pay for it and not me make it a business expense.
Oh my goodness. So the only way I can really do
that is we start filming cooking shows in our kitchen, which for
now we’re going to have to do. So that’s on the docket for
2027. Levels to the shit you’re trying
to pull and that’s that’s a pretty serious level to work at
kitchen right now. But but props to you.
Yeah. Let’s go.
I’m sure Tim will be so jealous of all your new appliances or
what have you. I’m going to be.
Jealous of our new appliances. Our appliances fucking suck.
They’re awful anyway. I mean island is too close to
the table. I just.
Got a? Very happy, buddy.
I know it that I got 3 kids, two dogs.
It’s a wild one. Yeah.
It needs open space. Yeah.
Giants. In Denver is the first game of
the later slate, the Denver Broncos back from London, 7
point favorites against the Giants.
Coming off a big win, they got extra rest 40.
I’m taking the Giants. I’m not.
I’m teasing down the Broncos, I feel.
Like this could be a very big Feinberg type just cuz you’re
teasing down. I mean I would tease down the
Broncos too. I think the Broncos.
I like the Broncos. No no no, the Giants lost
miserably 2 weeks ago to the Saints.
I agree. Like don’t be fooled by them
beating a divisional point. I’m not.
Fooled that like they’re a good team.
I’m a bit skeptical about this Denver offense.
I think. I think their defense is good
enough to win this game, just like they did in London.
But back from London facing a team with more rest and a team
that’s just going to try to bang it up the middle.
Like as long as Dart doesn’t throw that much, I think they’re
fine. Super Bowl.
Rematch too. I like Denver in this game quite
a bit so. I mean, the problem with Denver
it like I said, I think they’re an average quarterback from
being a true. Super Bowl, I think that’s
disingenuous. I think Bonex is like a right
around a mid tier quarterback right now.
Well. Then they should be a lot
better. If he’s mid tier then they can
win the Super Bowl. I don’t know if he has proved me
wrong. They did beat the Eagles.
That was impressive. We’ve sort of seen the eagles
sleepwalking. But other than that, like their
wins are the Titans, the Bengals with the quarterback situation
and The Jets. So I agree with Pat like from as
good as they can be, their wins are against like the true like
nut low of the league through the quarter pole.
So what do we make of them? I I guess I expect this game to
be stupid like last week where The Jets hung around.
So give me the the Giants. I mean, the spread’s too big to
call it a Feinberg, but yeah, Jets, Jets, Giants cover,
Broncos win that that seems pretty like my favorite range of
outcome here. You.
Really just have to rein in Jackson Dart’s ability to do
something really stupid, which he might do make.
Jackson Dart beat you? No, but I think.
That can still keep it within seven points.
I think this is I don’t. Think the back door is open.
I I. It’s not it’s not about the back
door, it’s about this offense just not putting up points like
the it’s not like the giants defensive front is bad.
They’ve been really good over the past three weeks and what
did we see? Even The Jets were getting
pressure on bonus and The Jets have a terrible off of defensive
front. That’s all.
Granted, but I just think the Denver.
Denver’s off of London. The Giants are off of a long
week, too, which I didn’t even think about.
Yeah, no, I. Get it.
But I think they bounce back. I think that Denver bounces back
from, I mean, they won, but I still think they bounce back
from a very poor performance against The Jets and they do the
New York, NY double them up. Indy and the Chargers, your team
Jeff are now 1 1/2 point favorites at home against Indy.
Got 48 as a total in this game. I think it’s a real prove a game
for Indy. Why?
Because this is a real opponent that they’re facing and a strong
AFC opponent. If they want to be taken
seriously, they win this game the tiebreaker.
I mean, it’s like, yes, in theory, but this is an opponent
that is sort of like treading water and just trying to survive
like the month I I. I I agree where you’re coming
from with that, but to Indy that doesn’t make any sort of
difference. Like they got to win this game,
sure. Road game against like a high
end QB right that you don’t need to like breakdown the chargers
injuries. I I get what you’re saying.
So I have so many emotions about last week.
Obviously the chargers were saved by Herbert.
I could pretty much in every game.
He’s like save them and want it for that like the Bronco game,
this game. It’s just even the the chiefs
game. I would say I’m impressed like
with the O line in its current state that they scored 29 points
and should probably should have scored more.
The problem that I’ve noticed Pat though, is the online
problems, and maybe I’m just making an excuse and I’m not
Herbert plays a role in this, but the online problems have
just been catastrophic in the red zone.
Like they just get penalties and it’s just is killing us.
Good plays are getting called back and I guess it’s the
confined space and the problems are magnified and so we cannot
score touchdowns. Our red zone to touchdown rate
is one of the worst in the league.
That’s a problem. I’ll close this by saying I’m
going to be there on Sunday. I I don’t have tickets yet.
I, I see some nice options on StubHub now, but maybe I’ll just
wait like before I go into the building and we’re wearing,
we’re wearing jerseys that we deserve to lose in.
And if we lose 60 to nothing and they never wear these like
highlighter yellow jerseys that I don’t understand why they’re
existing. I’m ashamed to be going to a
game to have to stare at them and purpose on purpose.
They play the Vikings on the Thursday.
What we’ll be wearing the, the, the navies that I like.
And maybe that’ll be a reason to get me there.
And because I think maybe they’ll have specific Navy merch
in the merch shop that I might drive 2 hours just to hit up the
stadium store on a day we’re wearing an alternate that I like
just to get some stuff that reminds me of when I was 12.
That’s a lot of words. I think the Colts are better
than us. Like they’re just fine.
And, and I don’t think the Chargers are going to win, but
apparently Kobe Brissett in a game I saw none of threw the
ball all over the Colts. So maybe Herbert can do that.
They they. Sure did.
The Chargers passed defense. I mean it got a big boost last
week after playing Tua. I don’t know really how much
that tells you about what the defense is doing, but Indy took
a precipitous drop down like they were one of the top 10
defenses going into they’re 4. Guys out.
Are those guys going to be back? I don’t know.
I mean they lost one guy and they asked Anthony Richardson
and a corner in the pre game warmups.
You never know what’s going on with Be More.
Concerned about the A chain? Had no trouble eating them up.
And yeah. Mcconkey Gordon had no trouble.
Conky Mcconkey had no problem the week before.
But oh, oh, I actually think the only player we will be getting
back for this game is Denzel Perryman, who is our best run
stopping linebacker. And I don’t know that it’ll
help, but like for Jonathan Taylor, like you want that guy
back and that’s the like, maybe Quinton comes back because he
was full week of limited practice.
But I don’t see any way in where like a Khalil Mack, a Joaalt,
even a Trey Pipkins is returning this week.
I like Indy I. Like the Chargers, although I’m
not enthused to hear they’re going to wear what jerseys that
match the yellow pants. Is that it, Jeff?
Yeah. Just horrific.
I cannot believe these things even exist.
Who? Who wants that?
I. Don’t know.
I don’t know. I’m actually like, I don’t think
people understand, like how bothered I am to have to, like,
be there in person to look at them that, yeah.
That’s very disappointing and like I.
Usually want to sit like 10 rows on top of my bench.
I don’t want to be anywhere near my bench.
I don’t want to look at them. So we shall see.
Another thing I just a comment about two on the Dolphins.
The Chargers did something last week that I never seen before.
And Tim is probably the person who can answer this.
Be like hell, it wouldn’t have been a Hail Mary because it’s
like 70 yards. But have you ever seen the
hijinks play with like no time on the clock, get intercepted at
like the line of scrimmage? In your life of watching
football, have you ever seen an interception on that throw where
you’re just throwing it to the first guy to start the lateral
party? No.
The only thing I could think close was the year that the
Raiders and Patriots played a few years ago.
Jacoby Myers and Myers. Through it backwards into the
hands of the Raider, who scored a touchdown.
I was. Actually, the quarterback, like
the quarterback getting it, yeah.
Like when you guys, I’m trying to think it doesn’t very often
in general where it gets picked off that quickly at the line.
Now I don’t remember, Jeff, that that instance happening.
I’m worried about your run defense in this game.
That’s what scares me the most. Jonathan Taylor could could
absolutely feast in this game. That’s concerning because
they’re not only are they feasting, they’re keeping the
Chargers off the field. They’re running the clock.
I think it’s a very close game. I don’t have a strong opinion on
it other than I think this, Nance and Romo.
No. Nance and Romo are out doing the
Raiders Chiefs. I saw earlier this week.
I think you get the second group, I think.
Where’s Brady Fox? Probably Washington, Dallas.
Yeah, that’s where, that’s where that’s the game of the week.
I think the spread is a point too short.
I think these teams are basically Co equal and so I
think it should be Chargers by 2 1/2.
So I will take the charges here because I in a game where I
don’t have a super strong feel. I think the extra point value on
the chargers makes me take them, but I have no confidence in it.
Just like being a family on the wall and some chats with like
nerds who are, you know, model this shit and bet for a living.
It does seem like they do. They’re not confident in what
the Colt secondary health situation is going to be.
And there has been like a bit of early steam to the Chargers,
which I don’t even know if that matters, but I I hope the Colts,
the Colts secondary is is. Did you see the stats though
from Brissette from last week? Like the advantage I I.
Want as someone who had the had a significant amount of money on
the Colts and was dining in CLV of three points when Jacoby
percent became the starter. Oh, I watched that game and I
saw what he did to them. But like the the Kyler stats
week one through 5 on like completions of 20 plus plus air
yards, 30th in the league, attempts of 20 or more air
yards, 24th in the league, A dot 31st in the league, total air
yards 30th in the league. And then last week in all those
categories per set, first, second, eighth, first.
Like it was like a different offense.
Yeah. I agree.
I. I don’t know if percent keeps
that I still. Think the Colts, well, that
like. That could I don’t want to
overrate it because they the the the Cardinals game plan was to
pick on like a a crushed Colt secondary.
But I, I don’t know man, I think if you.
Push on the Colts. You can knock them down.
Yes, I. Agree.
I’m still not. Like they’re four and one.
They play good football, score, they can’t score.
They’re five and one if they. Get a chance to win this game
with the ball, with the buzzer. I have confidence that they’re
going to get down the field. That’s where I’m at with the
Colts in the. End It’s a super close game and
the Chargers have the better quarterback and they’re laying
less than 2 1/2 at home. That’s enough for me to take
point. If the Chargers got the ball
with a minute left, needing three points, I would trust that
Kerbert could get them into dicker range I.
Would agree to give it to. Mcconk, you mean to give Herbert
his credit for the end of the last game?
It was Mcconkey that saved you? Really.
I mean, he made that play. He did make the play, but they
did they they use that play to go win the game.
They saw it plenty of time to get down the field.
No, absolutely. Even if he just catches the ball
and steps out of bounds like they’re still.
I absolutely agree. I don’t yeah, if that’s an. 8
yard reception. They still need one first down
to get it to where. Victor, I agree.
I’m just saying Mcconkey made the play of the game well.
No, the play of the game was actually Herbert and it was the
final 2 plays because he essentially did the same thing
on the first down to evade the sack, just to throw an
incompletion, to not lose the yards, to not eat the clock.
And then it happened again and he managed to make a a
completion did. People.
Have to come over to you. Did they have to come over to
you when you were in the chair and ask you not to make a scene
when that completion took place? When you had to go over to the
soft seating area. I would not be out of respect
for the institution, I wouldn’t watch a Chargers game there.
OK, but I’ll be at the game this week.
I’m going to the Singapore airport known as Sofai, and
yeah, maybe they’ll win for me. Here.
Is a bad sign for the Patriots this week.
Maybe you should just bet Titan’s money line DraftKings
Network my my Old Stomping Grounds just tweeted out.
Is the MVP race already down to two players over the last 48
hours? No one is getting more action on
DK Sports Book than Baker Mayfield and Drake May.
Being reactionary to the futures markets now like you’re just
never mind whatever. Well, the.
The Baker thing’s fun ’cause he’s well on his way, and I do
know there’s people with like 35 to 1, Baker 50 to 1 like that,
that Baker should. Be first or second in the odds.
He’s always. 3rd in the odds, yeah.
But he’s really not. I understand that he is, but
he’s not. You don’t seem to.
Grasp the the concept that odds are listed in.
Order and they they appear. I understand their odds, but if
it’s even remotely close between him and Mahomes, Mahomes has no
chance to win it. But what?
They’re saying the voters will not going to be close.
That’s what the odds are telling so.
I I. Do believe though, the NF LS,
we’ve sort of acknowledged they’re going to, they feel like
it’s good for the league to be in an era where they’re like
just OK giving it to other great quarterbacks who have incredible
years. We all know Mahomes is the best.
Just copy what the NBA did with like Jordan and he didn’t need
to win MVPS. It’s just good for the league to
put that crown on other guys and give them rub.
He only has the one MVP though, doesn’t he?
Oh. You only no, you know.
Yesterday he won. He won 2018, 2022.
So actually. You know what, I do think that
he actually needs a couple more That’s.
Where I’m at kind of thing that if it’s close, that maybe Baker
ends up getting it. But I think that the writers
might look at it and be like, hey, this is the best
quarterback of this generation. He should be the one with all
the almost like Aaron Rodgers from the previous ten years.
Pardon. I played the best.
Of all the quarterbacks, he didn’t win shit.
Are we? Calling that, is this Mahomes 3
point O now or would you say we’re still on 2 point OI think?
This is still 2 point O. Once Kelsey leaves, you’re on a
three-point O. OK.
That’s that you’re right. That’s a good demarcation for
three-point O. So you’re taking.
The Colts, Jeff. I’m I’m going to take the
chargers but I don’t like it so. Chargers for Tim and Jeff, Indy
for myself and Le Coin, Washington and Dallas.
Oh, underrated. Before we get to that game, you
cursed Brian Callahan into being fired.
I. Did that.
Totally forgot about he already was having a terrible coaching
stint before I said I thought the Titans were gonna have a
surprise season. But Box.
Is banking on this being a big one.
Washington at Dallas. Dallas is a 2 1/2 point dog at
home to the Commanders. 55 is the total.
It’s the game of the week. You got Brady on it.
Are you OK over there giving? Me.
Weird. Looks and you’re on your phone.
Nope. All good.
Is everything OK? All good.
You need to go No, all good, OK. I can see this game being a real
let down. Like.
Yeah, 20 to 17, because Washington doesn’t hold up their
end. Dallas can score.
You have. A Dallas can’t play defense
you’re. Right.
But like like. When you say let down, you mean
like a hard under? Yeah, just like just a game
you’re watching. Like, what the hell is going on
here? Like why?
Why can’t either of these team? You’re just looking at it like
guys are wide open. No one’s completing shit.
It’s like one of those like weird games that you watch and
it’s the biggest. Total of the week too.
It is. It’s by far the biggest total of
the by 2 1/2 points over the Monday night or to Tampa and
Detroit. Just I, I sometimes I get into
these spots like everyone’s. Oh man, it’s going to be 47 to
40. It’s going to be like an
action-packed like 80 yard touchdowns and you’ll watch it.
It’s like guys running the ball and taking sacks.
I losing I paid for my ticket last night when the Mariners hit
their homers by making a bet on the Bears and Washington.
How do I put this? Like I feel like their win over
the Chargers was in a way misleading because the Chargers
had no offensive line or or defensive line that I thought
maybe they and they were brutal. Like the the QJ fumble, that the
kick return that didn’t count like a lot went against the
Chargers. Yeah, and it.
Just like sort of put a like a bit of air in Washington, a nice
Rd. win against like an elite quarterback.
It was the game of the week. Brady was doing it.
I think it’s set up nice, but I’m back on Washington.
I’m back on Washington here. They they got some flaws, but I
think they can exploit Dallas like pretty good.
And I I know it’s like easy to see, but say, but I see this is
like being both teams clear in 30 points.
This is a good feather in the cat for the DAC MVP case if he
or offensive. Player of the Offensive player
of the I. Think he’s Dallas.
If Dallas makes the play offs, it’s possible.
But I think he’s got a better chance at offensive Player of
the year. I would.
Tend to agree with you on that. Dallas here.
Right, Dallas to win. I don’t know that Washington’s
going to hold up there under the bargain.
Why not? I don’t.
It looks like McLaren might be back every time I.
Watch them this season. They don’t have the explosion
they had a year ago. Like they’re just like 1/2 step
slower. Daniel’s well, playing well.
He’s not quite as electric. He’s not making has he had a big
run all season? I I don’t think I’ve seen one.
Like he’s playing fine. He’s playing very good football,
but he’s not playing. He is.
But like he came back last week and this week.
Sorry as well. I like he didn’t look fantastic
in the Chargers game. He didn’t look fantastic last
night. I don’t know just I I thought it
started the year that the era might be training a slight bit
down for Washington and I feel somewhat vindicated.
I feel like that’s kind of where they are, even though the Eagles
are struggling. I mean the division is there to
play for. I I like Dallas here.
I don’t know why Dallas are going to score enough points to
cover the number and win it like 2720 and there’s.
No chance Lamb is playing. No Lamb.
‘S probably going to be back Jerry gave him the thumbs up
today, but I. Understand he’s going to go from
like, not well, OK, fine. Well, I mean.
It’s an injury that wants. It’s healed.
It’s healed OK. Yeah, I’ll take that back then.
So there. There’d be two things that I
worry about here, like what gives first in this game, and
it’s both going to come on the defensive side of the ball. 1.
Washington’s been very good at getting to the quarterback, but
Dax’s been very good at beating the blitz and getting the ball
out really quickly and getting his guys downfield.
Washington’s back end, despite the fact they were able to keep
everyone besides like Luke McCaffrey, actually, he’s on
Washington. No, no one on the Bears like had
a huge play. In that game, but it.
Felt like they put everyone back deep and just got.
Yeah, and Swift had Any time Swift had the ball in his hands,
he was making a play. Yeah, it was just.
Short and then like no one was there in that mid range part of
the field. He was just able to run and make
guys miss because they were so concerned because their back end
has been so bad. I think Dallas can kind of beat
you at every level in the passing game.
The issue is they can’t stop the run at all.
And what does Washington do when they’re doing well?
They’re running the ball, none of the running.
Backs were any good, Mitch? They’re fine.
They’re no better or worse than they were last year.
I don’t agree like Jacory. Kroski Merritt’s probably just
as good as Bryan Robinson. Daniels can run.
You’re still using Mcnichols. Chris Rodriguez can be good, but
they’re A-Team that’s based around running.
It’s a prove me. Game I need to see Washington
win this game. Prove it to me.
I’m going to take Washington here as well.
Jeff, I’m going to go on with you.
I just think that exploiting a Dallas run defense allows you to
control the game more than just playing into what Dallas wants
to do. They.
Beat the shit out of The Jets and they lost to Carolina like.
Carolina. ‘S basically the the 2007
Patriots at home can’t lose. Washington Commandos I I’m.
Going with you, I want to see where Washington ranks in run
offense. Right now that should be high
either 10th. They’re they’re it’s funny, they
are 8th in passing, 10th in rushing offense.
That surprise you? Sorry, you’re checking your
voicemails. Sorry.
Answer my question, please. What did you say?
Oh no, I already said it. Washington’s offense Washington.
‘S offense Top ten in the league?
They’re top ten in both a passing and rush offense so far.
I would. I would not have guessed that
would be the worth of the rushing offense.
They’re just. Pretty efficient.
They had broken off some huge runs so far this season.
They’re using Mariota at quarterback for a while, OK.
That’s true. I don’t know.
I mean, the numbers are what they are, so that’s fair enough.
They just haven’t been as like sparkling and impressive this
year. Dallas has.
Been better pass and rush offense.
They’ve been a fantastic offense.
They have been. Their defense just been.
It’s very bad, very, very bad, Sir.
Green Bay in Arizona the Cards AKA Falcons West are 6 1/2 point
dogs at home. 45 1/2 is the over under in this game.
Everything just wants me to say Green Bay here it’s.
A Green Bay get right game I. Mean, unfortunately, I went
against Rob last week and went with Cincinnati and the points
instead of Green Bay. It’s just it, it’s like they’re
missing a level. They they used up all their
goodwill the first week of the season and they just haven’t
been able to get back to that point.
I agree. And it’s weird, they can, they
can play in really high scoring games like they did against
Dallas. They play more low scoring games
like they did against the the the Bengals, but just again,
there’s something missing from people want to crown them as
like a real genuine Super Bowl quality team.
I don’t think they’re quite there, but I am going to take
them against the Cardinals because I don’t trust Arizona
even at home and I will tease them down.
They’re the last part of the three teams we.
Also don’t. I thought it was 14 teams now.
Detroit’s not going to be on. I’m not teasing the three teams.
OK there. We go take, take Detroit I.
Won’t do 0 on. Detroit with that one, I won’t.
Maybe this ends up being good for them, Jeff, but what has
Green Bay really got out of this person’s trade so far besides
like a tackle against DAC in that Dallas, Yeah, half a.
Win from that so. I say this as someone that put
that the day before the trade on our preview show had the Packers
going to the NFC title game and I think they’re really good and
it’s all capable. I can believe that while also
believing they’re since the trade, they’re just overrated
like in a the the perception of them is still overrated and it’s
a lot of points for home. But I I don’t know if I want to
trust Arizona, but I believe the Packers are overrated and it’s
probably showing in point spreads.
So you’re. Taking the Cardinals.
Yes, but I’m. Comfortably and I don’t know
they knew what their deal I I’d want Kyler back, despite the
short conversation we had a few minutes ago.
There’s no future with your Kobe percent because I.
Need. I need them to be able to move
and and get out of the way and even throw a ball away instead
of taking a sack against the Packers.
I feel like the way to judge that DAC trade right now anyway,
the person’s trade. Yeah.
Or sorry, cheese. Yeah, the mica trade.
Dallas’s defense is literally the worst defense in football.
I mean, Miami’s is. Literally the worst defense in
football is. It I thought I saw something the
other day that was like, they are 31st or dead last in like
quite literally everything. I mean I I have Miami has 30.
2nd and 32nd in row and past Jesus.
Christ with. Dallas just behind it, 31st and
like. I know Dallas’s defense wasn’t
great last year, but I don’t think they were this bad.
I I. Just don’t know what he would be
doing for them right now and they.
Got Kenny Clarke do a little more.
Pass rush I guess maybe. But like, are they?
Is he really stopping? Is he?
Is he? They’re.
Not giving up 40 points to the Giants because they have
Parsons. I mean, I would want Parsons on
my team. I would too.
I get that. But if your defense was going to
suck anyway, Parsons? Has not been playing great
football in Green Bay is the point.
Like he hasn’t been like a defensive MVP type of player so.
He’s been banged up. Yeah, Hurt.
Yeah, he has. Been but he’s.
He was hurt when they traded him, that’s true.
Kind of part. Of the reason I think they
traded him. And like, ’cause he gets traded
and gets the new contract, the adrenaline of like wanting to
prove his worth and show up right away, like there’s just no
time for him to like give that back The rest.
Hopefully the the buy helped I feel like.
Getting traded right before the season doesn’t help either, no.
That that’s never usually a a great.
So maybe in the second-half of the season he’s absolutely fine.
There’s a they’re. Using different schemes, Yeah.
They aren’t just using him a third down for passing.
Maybe that’s fair, I guess. My push back here of why I would
like Green Bay the most is that their past defense has continued
to be one of the best in the league, whereas I don’t know if
Arizona can run the ball effectively enough to score
points. If you’re going to take away
their passing game and probably no Marv, no Arizona.
Is better than people think They no.
Arizona is West Coast Atlanta, I’m telling you.
Like isn’t Arizona top 15 on offense in like they’re they’re
not as people have this perception.
I think they’re a better team than their record, even though,
you know, they haven’t beaten anyone good.
Now see. That’s the thing.
They, they, it feels like they, they’re OK.
I kept saying this about the Eagles.
Like the Eagles have two really good quarters a game, then they
don’t do anything and like, they’re like the worst team in
the league. Arizona’s kind of like the
actual realization of all of that.
They look really good for two quarters and they’re like put up
a ton of points and then it’s like they quit playing football
for two quarters. And then I spoke about it
earlier, but the big game next week, right?
Rogers playing the Packers. Oh, is that next week?
Yeah, man, that we talked about the the Super Bowl rematch is.
Yeah, so Arizona as of three weeks ago was top ten, I guess a
top ten offense. They are now 22nd in the past
DVOA and 25th in Russian DVOA. Offensively, they played like.
I’m not, I’m not betting this game if Arizona lost by two
touchdowns, I’m I’m not surprised, but I just think the
Packers by like the casual standpoint are just hella
overrated. And that’s from someone who who
wants them to do well. Falcons and 49ers Sunday Night
Football. The Niners are favored by two at
home in this game. 47 1/2 is the total.
Where do you think that the public will fall on this game,
Jeff? Because it’s just this screams
of Atlanta is free money. They come in.
They’re not like they’re coming off a big win against the Bills.
I just everything leads me to believe San Francisco is going
to win this game. So I’m going to take them.
Just do not trust the Falcons. The moment you trust them, they
stab you in the back. And I think we were all on
Atlanta for the Monday night game.
We love that spot for four and a four and a half point dogs at
home against the Bills. That’s Atlanta time now they’re
like a coin flip game on short rest going to the West Coast
with a bunch of air in their tires.
Oh, Atlanta’s back. Watch out and.
They, they were really stupid last night.
They they. Tried to, they were.
Really, really stupid. Last night they tried the Bills
just. Wouldn’t take it no, no, no.
The game is yours. You you keep it I.
Couldn’t have said it like any different.
That’s my exact handicap on the game.
It’s a ridiculous. It’s a.
Ridiculous handicap, by the way. Yeah, I.
I agree, like I got no idea what like the model would say what
the number should be. I have no, I don’t originate
shit, but Atlanta like just when like they impress.
It’s almost like you got a zig on this one.
That being said, you know, the 49ers aren’t, you know, with
their injuries, they’re not a powerhouse.
This would be a game where I would like think if Atlanta
pulls it off, like maybe it can finally start happening for
them, No? ‘Cause then you really fade them
next week, OK if they beat up back.
Back-to-back prime back to. Back prime time wins then they
they beat up on Minnesota I believe in prime time earlier
this year too. Was it Minnesota?
They beat them like 1. Week to six or something.
Week too. Yeah, after the JJ McCarthy like
was the greatest quarterback ever for his.
Yeah, that’s. Right on Sunday Night Football.
That’s right. The Vikings did nothing in that
game. Again.
Atlanta will find a way to be winning this game and then give
up a field goal and not cover at the end take.
The Falcons here, because I think the Niners are just too
beat up. Black Jones could barely walk
into the end of that game. Well, I.
Mean you might get Jones or pretty.
So Atlanta’s defense has really been the big the 5th.
I am the third revelation. They’ve been excellent this
season, yes. Like, and now AJ Tyrell is back,
like they’re even better. If there’s a coach that I would
think that can kind of pick apart a good defense, it would
be Kyle Shanahan doing the weird, hey, all of a sudden
Kendrick Bourne is wide open and running like a deer down.
And Kittle might be back for this game.
And Ricky Purcell might be back for this game as well.
And maybe 1 of Juwan Johnson’s 5 broken ribs Heels can’t have. 5
broken ribs and a high. And low ankle sprain you should
not be. Playing football right now, I
would. Tend to agree with you, he’s not
on. IR but he somehow has 5 broken
ribs and three. And he’s playing in the game.
That something doesn’t add up. Anyway, I just think the Niners
are still not healthy enough and I don’t trust them enough.
Think Atlanta and not not I’m trusting Atlanta.
It’s really play against the the 49ers.
See I. I just in, in this spot, the
Falcons aren’t big enough dogs for me to be like perfect,
perfect spot for the Falcons. I know that by the time we get
to game time here, I could see this being like Atlanta -1
people are going to love Atlanta this week.
That’s my perception. I don’t know.
I just, I know not to trust them, although you say they’re
the most trustworthy team. I don’t.
Say I don’t say that, but I like them here.
Let’s see Atlanta’s home Rd. split so far this season.
I feel like they’ve been good at home.
I mean, they went to Minnesota. It was 20. 7 Nothing to Carolina
on the road that was. 30 to nothing.
That wasn’t good. That that was a bad.
Game for them, but that’s an outlier game.
But like Pennex has that ability to look bad.
He didn’t even play particularly well in that game.
Like Bijon and London beat the bill single.
Hey, they sure? Did they had their their A games
out there? See at.
The Panthers. And they did.
They did beat the Viking at the Vikings.
There were dogs in that game too.
Yeah, they are dogs here. Just something about it smells
fishy to me. I’m more afraid of them with
their favorites. Hopefully I’m watching game six
of the ALCS during that game. Fly up, go see it Tampa in LA.
So I’ll be traveling back from I’ll be traveling from the
cesspool to northern San Diego. I mean, for a place that you
really seem to hate so much, I don’t know why you fly there.
San Diego, I fly, I go to San Diego I gotta.
Say I I have been to LA as a visitor probably 15 times.
I’ve never had a bad time in Lai fucking love LA.
You’re like. Randy Newman, yeah.
I’m flying into LA because we haven’t.
We have something there with some family on the Saturday
night and I’m going to go to the Chargers game on Sunday.
But my family, the second they can, they are not waiting for me
to go to a football game. They’re getting the fuck to San
Diego as soon as they can on Sunday morning and I’ll have to
find my way back from San Diego to Los Angeles.
You bring the kids. On like the We Ho Vanderpump
tour. It’s fucking fantastic.
Get some sur in your life, get some pump in your life.
I think TomTom, no. TomTom is still open.
I think it was Schwartz and Sandy’s that shut down, no?
Idea, yeah. Sam.
Sam and I did it. It was fucking fantastic.
Oh, I I’ve always enjoyed going to LA.
Fair enough. Have a great time there.
You just don’t let go out, Jeff. All the best.
Mad Men episodes are When Dawn went to LA, there you go, just
the. Weather.
The weather’s so nice. Yeah.
And there’s stuff to do. It’s fun.
Tampa at Detroit, first leg of Monday Night Football.
I bet you this gets the A-Team. It should, it’s only should it
won’t. You don’t think the?
First, no. The the 8:15 start is the
official Monday night broadcast with the official Monday night.
That’s just been that. Every single one of them.
OK, but these? Don’t overlap so you’re not get
the buck and Aikman are not calling the late.
This is Chris. Fowl again.
It was last night with the Bills.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Lyons have Buck Aikman and Lisa
Salters. The late game has Fowler, Dan
Orlando game. Lewis, this is overlap.
My bad this is 2. These aren’t the overlapping
These are the two separate ones correct?
Sorry yes, when they’re two separate the early game will
have when they’re overlapping, it’s 815 gets the main cruise.
Sorry I my brain is now wired that they overlap, but sometimes
they don’t. Now I I we disagree on this.
I don’t like when they overlap. I mean stand alone football and
stand alone football, but I love.
When they overlap the best. I like Detroit in this game -4
1/2. I like this to be an ass
kicking. I agree.
Tampa’s got injuries. Tampa’s, I don’t want to sit
like they deserve everything that’s happened, but you know,
they, they, they can, they’re going to get knocked down a bit
here. This.
Would be a big feather in the cap for the Baker MVP case
should that come to fruition. Yeah, Tim.
No, I just, I got a text from somebody that made me think that
Shudur was going to start. Really.
You can say that, but I. Don’t see any confirmation of it
online. So was it.
From someone whose name is B&S, yes.
So the guy who if there was a short bus to take you to work,
he would ride it is the guy? Oh no.
His name starts with B and ends with S Oh OK.
No, OK, not who I was thinking of.
The guy who just makes stuff up. No, no, not.
Him, not him. OK.
I don’t know, Matt. I don’t see that being
confirmed, so I’m sorry. In this game, Tampa at full
strength would be very close, maybe a three-point.
Dog or a 2 1/2 point dog in this game.
Maybe like a coin flip game, but that’s not Detroit would get.
Right off Detroit would get right up off the mat,
particularly at home. I I think they’ll dispatch them
at home, Houston. And Seattle.
Seattle favored by 3 1/2 points. Houston coming off the bye week.
Maybe they’ve figured something out.
I just don’t. Did win 2.
Games in a row going into the bye they.
Played the absolute dregs OK, but they.
Won two games going into the bye.
That doesn’t matter. Every time they played a good
team they fucking sucked and I’m not picking.
Score points picking Seattle this is.
A big game for Seattle to do it against a good defense.
Yep, prime time and I just don’t know if I don’t know if Houston
can block Seattle. Jeff would be my my entire case
here. Like they played Baltimore and
Tennessee who literally can’t do anything.
Now they’re playing a real defense.
I love Seattle here. I haven’t really mentioned not
much that I’m considering for super lock.
Absolutely this one you mentioned how they can’t block.
I’m starting to think Seattle might even be underrated.
This is a just a bad spot this late game in Seattle for Houston
on a Monday. Seattle Seattle ALTS Seattle
Potential super lock. OK.
Well, I like Seattle a lot too. Not quite as much as Jeff, I
guess, but I do like them quite a bit in this game.
I don’t think the Texans have enough offensive firepower to
keep up, I guess. I’m I’m torn on this hook.
Seattle plays with its food a little bit, yeah.
Sometimes, yeah, even against. Jacksonville last week, they
were trying, they were begging for Jacksonville to get back in
that game. That’s fair.
That’s. Going to be a very similar game
to that, a low scoring game where the Seahawks win by a
touchdown. I I would.
Just think that the Houston’s defense can come up here and
again, this is a game where Houston should be able to
mitigate some of the efficiency of the passing anymore real
estate. Their passing game is JSN.
That’s it. That’s.
Their biggest and he’s been excellent.
Not Bobo, it’s not. You know, has Bobo, we saw Bobo
as one catch your boy Bobo one catch this year.
They have to use Bronson Arroyo instead and AJ Barner out of the
Bo. She’s coming off the edge, but
this could be a game where Kenneth Walker rushes for like
200 yards like, but they refuse to unleash him.
They’re like, oh, and we need to get Zach Charbonnet.
Yeah, Charbonnet. The Charbonnet vinaigrette at
Jeff’s 20K dinner coming in with lead feet and just stomping for
one yard every single time. If they unleash Kenneth Walker,
maybe that’s a go. I just, it’s, it’s Houston’s
offense. Can they score enough to make
this close? Because I think their defense
will keep them in this game. But this like reeks of almost
maybe it won’t be as bad as the Rams Baltimore game last week
where it’s just like 17 to 3 in Baltimore.
Just be the. Houston Tampa game from like 4
weeks ago. If they would cover that number
in this, they would. They would.
I could see that if that’s. Like that, that’s what I worry
about with Houston. But they are going on the road.
I don’t know. I’ll take Houston.
I have no by three. And 1/2 beaks. 3 1/2 Texans.
Lasso, I was going to say. Yar, but that’s a pirate.
Texan’s like a bull. Guns.
No, it’s like a bull. So you like 3 1/2?
Guns in the air. Yee Haw, Yee Haw ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha he. He there’s no ha, just a hee hee
ha hee ha hee ha hee for the Texans superlocks for the week.
I should just consult the coin on this fucking thing.
Super confident. Oh boy.
Patriots, give me the. Patriots, you’re taking the
patriots. Yeah, that was one of mine.
That was. I battered Houston.
I mean Seattle. Quick question, I’m still alive
in one survivor that I’m trying right now.
I was thinking about the Patriots, but now I’m like
scared of that game. Yeah, like a.
Big Rd. favorite. Like I mean, I I haven’t used
Green Bay because I’m still in that.
I’ve used Denver. I don’t think I’ve used the
Chiefs. Do I just use the Chiefs?
You don’t you think they’re going to lose to Vegas?
Do you really want to use the Chiefs?
I just want to. Stay alive, that’s all.
I’m you. Know.
Too many people are like there’s in the one that I’m in, Jeff,
there’s I believe actually I can just look at it right now, it
gives me a percentage of the people that are left in the
contest itself. I think there’s like 13% of
people left at this point. But I just, I just want to stay
alive. I I’m not ready to make any
decisions, but yeah, New England or Kansas City seem like where
I’m going to be going there. As for my Super lock, I guess
just to diversify, I’ll change. But based on what I said, as
much as I mentioned Super Lock more in the Seattle game, I had
a very vulgar description that I don’t want to repeat when I
mentioned what I thought Mike Vrabel was going to do to
someone who may or may not own the Tennessee Titans on Sunday.
And that comes with a double digit win.
But I’ll take Seattle -3 1/2 I’m going to take.
My Seattle, I thought you were going to double up with Tim and
take New England because the last time you guys were on the
same 1, you got eliminated from Survivor.
We sure did. We have a history of that I.
Will go with think I’m between right now I’m I, I like Green
Bay 6 1/2 just ’cause I kind of laid out that case of where how
does Arizona score against this defense?
I like. New England.
Like the? Giants.
I think I. Like Detroit the best.
I will take Detroit -4 1/2 on Monday Night Football.
OK, as mine you’re going to get. Your first win, Good job, hope.
So haven’t it rock bottom. I’m not and I can’t go O and 17
in super locks no if. You push, I pushed.
There you go. It can get better.
Recap your free money. It is a six point teaser.
Yeah, I was. Debating between 6-7 but I ended
up going with a six point tease and my tease is Packers,
Patriots and Broncos. That is, it’s a parlet.
Teaser. Sorry, that is a.
Six point plus 140 teaser Get on the.
Board, you said? All right.
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Not my name for being. Here today you hungry now after
talking about all that food I. Was, but then my hunger sort of
abated a bit, but I was very hungry in the moment.
What are you doing for dinner? I have some.
Leftovers. I ate leftovers the last two
days. I’m done with leftovers.
I’ve ate all the good parts of the.
Turkey. Some leftovers, so white meat.
Dark meat. It’ll all be served
Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving.
You’re a dark meat kind of guy. I do.
Prefer the dark meat, but the white meat’s fine.
I’ve. Switched over the course of the
years. I used to be a big white meat
guy. I’m a big dark meat guy.
Dark meat. Is tastier.
I like. It all.
Yeah, you know, I. Gotta say no to it.
No. I also don’t eat gravy so that’s
not a part of what I do. The white meat can get kind of
dry. I like to.
Put the the gravy more so on the potatoes than I do.
I’m not. Big on mashed potatoes.
I I’m not usually, but with a roast Turkey dinner it’s fine.
It’s traditional. You know you don’t have to eat
something just because it’s. Traditional, no, but it’s I, I’m
not against them. Like I’m not against.
I just don’t have them very often.
I’m like 3 or 4 times here. This is one of them.
Just give it a, they’re fine. You got to go.
OK, We’ll let you go. No, I.
Meant I got I’m seeing what they’re seeing some of the stuff
for that Chargers Vikings game. We’re wearing our navies.
I just saw like a mock up of what the field paints going to
look like. Yeah.
He has to. Go to the hell.
Hole, Los Angeles. Oh my God.
I’m actually thinking about taking the the there’s like a
booze cruise from San Diego. That sounds not an actual
cruise, but it’s the bolt, the north, the north Bolt bus you’re
going to get on the bolt box boys that sounds.
Great. I’m I bet you if you want to get
on the Bolt bus, there’s a few people that are watching this
show that we know down like that area who do the probably drive
down to San Diego to take it with you.
You imagine how good the Los Angeles buffets are, you know?
What, Pat, actually, I’m who, you know, who’s going to this
Vikings game, who keeps talking to me, who I like.
I don’t mean like talking to me like they’re bothering me, but
our boys Fantasy golf Insider. Oh.
Yeah, they’re, they’re going to be in LA for that game.
Yeah, Bergersen and. Zach.
Zach yeah, one of them is going to be there so and the Vikings
are going to be like 80% of the crowd.
Chargers will get their ass kicked, but yeah, yeah, that’s
me. I won’t be here next week.
Maybe you guys will get Cam. That’ll be fun.
Yeah, That, that that’s a. Tentative plan once I run it by
Cam, but you’d be good to take Cam’s place on best bets.
Yeah. You record that Thursday morning
or Wednesday. I’ll make it work.
Yeah, I’ll. I’ll have to confirm.
I don’t know if he’s got 3 hours in him.
Might have to dig Garion up from the grave.
He won’t want to talk to me. Why?
Oh, yeah, I can’t. I can’t imagine he’ll ever want
to talk to you. He’s on the show this week, too.
Oh dear. On Sunday night, there will be.
An airing of grievances. Oh, do we know we’re still?
Alive. Do we know anyone who’s at who’s
a member at Shadow Creek by chance, Jeff?
Because I need to get a time there for next May.
I don’t know any. That’s Vegas, right?
Yeah. Because I’m going to play the
Utah courses, Tim Butts and I are going to play.
But we have we we land in Vegas at like 10:00 AM the day, but
that’s like the only flight we can get in to get to Utah.
We have a car rentals and like our clubs are going to be there.
We want to play a course in Vegas.
I’d love to play Shadow Creek I. Mean, I’m always down when our
audience wants to like, suck up to me.
But no one has ever mentioned Shadow Creek, so I don’t.
I don’t know. That’s a big one.
Yeah, it is. A big one, if anyone out there
is a member of Shadow Creek who would like to host Pat Mayo and
my good friend Tim Butts, you know, we’ll we’ll pay you for
it. Obviously we just need to get on
the course and you can have a couple lots.
If you’re a. Member of Shadow Creek you get
buffets that are way nicer than the ones I go to that is.
Correct. OK, cocaine.
In them just pass them. Just in.
Giant stacks of them if you like it’s.
Just like Scarface. Yeah, it’s a.
It’s a. Scarface Buffet at the the most
exclusive club in Vegas. OK.
I don’t want. To play the win, the win seems
like such a novelty. Play Summerlin I I played.
Summerlin a bunch of times. Shout out Scott, who always
invites me out there. I mean, I would go play
Summerlin again, but like I always play Summerlin when I go
down. It’s it’s fun because you know
the course from the PGA Tour to go play it.
And just every time I stand on that fucking 17th hole, when
Martin Laird took my God damn money with the chip in his
fucking lifetime, and I went, tried to hit the chip, you know
where mine went? Directly in the water.
Oh dear. Where he should have gone.
Oh dear. My my highlighted Summerlin Tim
was almost making a hole in one at the hole that’s right beside
Miriam Adelson’s house. Oh wow, that was my highlight of
Summerlin. We lost after I3 putted on 18.
It’s not good, Jeff. I missed.
I missed the birdie putt also. It’s OK.
Yeah, me. Me and Joe went down.
Joe was having a day though. Yeah, or was it you?
And Joe against Scott and I now I can’t remember.
I Remember Me missing the putt. It was Scott and I yeah, ’cause
I ended up missing the putt. Terrible scene.
Anyway, Shadow Creek. Let me know.
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