Did Collin Morikawa’s comments incite Ryder Cup chaos at Bethpage Black? | Golf Today | Golf Channel

Did Collin Morikawa’s comments incite Ryder Cup chaos at Bethpage Black? | Golf Today | Golf Channel

BEST SHOT AND HOPEFULLY WIN IT. >> THAT’S JUST SOME OF WHAT’S GOING ON IN GOLF. LET’S PUT TOGETHER ANOTHER “GOLF TODAY” ROUNDTABLE WITH OUR SENIOR WRITERS. LET’S START WITH YOU ON THE BASIS IN THAT YOU’RE THE MOST MATURE OF THE TWO OF YOU. COLLIN MORIKAWA IS PLAYING IN JAPAN. OVERNIGHT, HE REJECTED ANY SUGGESTION THAT HIS CALL FOR THE FANS AT BETHPAGE TO CREATE CHAOS THAT THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE SCENE THAT EVENTUALLY UNFOLDED THERE. I THINK IT’S A BIT OF A STRETCH TO SAY THAT THE WORDS IN ONE PLAYER CONTRIBUTED TO WHAT WAS MARKETED THAT WAY FOR A DOZEN YEARS. WHERE DO YOU FALL ON THIS KIND OF ARGUMENT ABOUT WHAT RESPONSIBILITY THE PLAYERS HAD AHEAD OF THE RYDER CUP? >> WELL, FIRST, THANK YOU FOR MATURE. YOU COULD HAVE GONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. OLD WOULD HAVE WORKED JUST AS WELL. COLLIN MORIKAWA ALSO SAID THAT THE CROWD CLEARLY CROSSED THE LINE, AND THE BEHAVIOR WE SAW AT BETHPAGE WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I FALL BACK ON THE SAME IDEA THAT EVERYBODY ONE OF THE U.S. PLAYERS LIKE COLLIN MORIKAWA REFERENCE SOMEONE THEY HAD SAID BEFORE HAND, COLLIN JUST SAID HE WAS TRYING TO GET THE ENERGY OUT OF THE CROWD. THEY’RE COMPLAINING HIS WORDS IS WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH. I THINK IT WAS ALL INEVITABLE THAT THE CROWD WAS GOING TO BE OVER THE TOP, EVEN IF THE U.S. HAD PLAYED WELL OVER THE FIRST TWO DAYS. I THINK THE CROWD WOULD HAVE GONE OVER THE LINE. I DON’T THINK THAT EITHER COLLIN MORIKAWA OR ANYONE INVOLVED IN TEAM USA HAD ANY IDEA THAT IT WAS GOING TO GO OVER THE TOP LIKE THAT, BUT THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE. >> THE RYDER CUP HAS TOO MUCH CHAOS, THE PRESIDENT’S CUP IS LACKING CHAOS. SOME SAY LACKING JUICE, AS WELL. THE AMERICANS HAVE WON TEN STRAIGHT. WE SPOKE TO JEFF OGLEBY YESTERDAY, HE HAS ONLY TWO PLAYERS IN THE TOP 30. IF THE AMERICANS WIN FOR AN 11th STRAIGHT TIME NEXT YEAR IN CHICAGO TWHASHGS CHICAGO, WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THIS EVENT? >> I’M NOT SURE IF THERE IS ONE. I’M NOT SURE YOU CAN FIND ANYONE THAT IS EXCITED FOR THE PRESIDENT’S CUP JUST BECAUSE OF ONE WIN BACK IN 1998, JUST ONE TIE IN 2003, AT LEAST ON U.S. SOIL THEY’VE ALL BEEN BLOWOUTS. IN 2017, THEY ALMOST WON THE EVENT ON SATURDAY. IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE A FOUR-DAY EVENT. THERE’S ALWAYS THIS SIMMERING FRUSTRATION ON SUNDAY NIGHT, AND WHAT CAN BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. THE PGA TOUR, YOU KNOW, OVERSEES THIS EVENT AND BOTH OF THESE TEAMS. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TWEAKS THAT HAVE OR HAVE NOT BEEN DONE, THEY HAVE NOT MADE A SINGLE TWEAK TO THE SCORING ADJUSTMENT SINCE 2015. I KNOW THEY WANT TO DIFFERENTIATE THE PRESIDENT’S CUP AND THE RYDER CUP, AND THAT’S WHY THEY’RE NOT GOING TO 28 POINTS. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD WITH. THE TALENT DISPARITY, IT IS STARK. JUST PUT THE PRESIDENT’S CUP IN LINE WITH THE RYDER CUP. MAKE IT 28 POINTS AND JUST SEE IF YOU CAN HAVE A MORE COMPETITIVE RESULT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW FANS ARE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING INVESTED BECAUSE IT’S SO LOPSIDED. >> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I POSED TO JEFF YESTERDAY, WHETHER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT’S CUP WOULD BENEFIT TOUR WOULD NOT OWN ALL OF IT, IF THE INTERNATIONAL TEAM WAS SOLD TO SOME OTHER WHICH ENR INDIVIDUAL AND THEY CAN HAVE WHO THEY WANT TO PLAY ON THEIR TEAM, RATHER HAVE THE DECISION COME OUT OF THE SAME OFFICE. HE SEEMED TO THINK THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT IS WORTH HAVING. NOT OBVIOUSLY BEFORE NEXT YEAR’S PRESIDENT’S CUP, BUT SUBSEQUENT TO THAT. DO YOU BUY INTO THAT ARGUMENT, THAT IT’S LACKING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INDEPENDENCE FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION HERE? >> ABSOLUTELY. I CAN POINT TO AT LEAST TWO SEPARATE INTERNATIONAL CAPTAINS IN ERNIE ELS AND NICK WHO MADE THE ARGUMENT FOR FEWER POINTS. THE INTERNATIONAL TEAM, AT LEAST ON PAPER, IS NOT AS DEEP AS THE U.S. TEAM. AND FEWER POINTS WOULD ALLOW AN INTERNATIONAL CAPTAIN TO MAYBE GET SOME PLAYERS THAT WEREN’T UP TO PAR. BUT THE PGA TOUR CONTINUES TO WONDER, THIS IS A PRODUCT FOR THE PGA TOUR, WHY NOT BE AS COMPETITIVE AS POSSIBLE. YOU POINT TO THE RYDER CUP, IT HAD BEEN LARGELY COMPETITIVE THAT’S WHY IT’S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST EVENT IN ALL OF SPORTS. WHY WOULDN’T YOU JUST LET THE DP WORLD TOUR TAKE OVER THE INTERNATIONAL SIDE? THEY HAVE PROVEN THAT THEY’RE REALLY GOOD AT THESE TEAM EVENTS, EVEN TALKING TO JEFF YESTERDAY, WE MET WITH HIM BEFORE HE CAME ON THE SHOW. THE IDEA BEING THAT JEFF HAS ALREADY STARTED TO TRY TO GET HIS IDEAS. SO IF THEY HAVE A SECRET CODE THAT WOULD MAKE THIS A MORE COMPELLING PRODUCT, ABSOLUTELY. >> LET’S LOOK AT THE INTERNATIONAL SIDE. THE PRESIDENT’S CUP WAS ADDITIVE, A CHANCE TO GET CAPTAINS AND VICE CAPTAINS AND GET THE PLAYERS TO FEEL A LITTLE TASTE OF PRESSURE, MAYBE IN AN OFF YEAR FROM THE RYDER CUP. BUT ARE YOU SEEING A SCENARIO WHERE THE PRESIDENT’S CUP IS PERHAPS TAKEN AWAY FROM THE AMERICAN WHERE IS THEY TRY TO GET READY FOR THE RYDER CUP, IS THAT POSSIBLE? >> I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT THAT THERE’S CUP FATIGUE ON THE PART OF THE AMERICANS. I THINK IT’S SO BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO HAVE THIS PROVING GROUND, THIS TESTING GROUND, ABILITY TO GET ALL OF THE 12 PLAYERS TOGETHER AND HAVE THE SITUATION WHERE YOU’RE TESTING OUT PAIRS AND DEVELOPING A CONTINUITY THAT THE AMERICANS HAVE STRUGGLED TO BRING YEAR TO YEAR, CUP TO CUP, PRESIDENT’S CUP TO RYDER CUP. I SPECIFICALLY THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS 2025-2026 CHANGEOVER, AND LOOK, A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN A YEAR’S TIME, BUT THERE’S NOT A LOT OF PROVEN PARTNERSHIPS THAT THE AMERICANS CAN RELY ON IN 12 MONTHS’ TIME AT MEDINA. SO BEING ABLE TO TEST THEM, GETTING THE DATA DIALED IN, UNDERSTANDING AND DEVELOPING A STRATEGY, THEN THEY CAN TAKE FROM MEDINA TO 2027 IN IRELAND, I THINK IT’S HUGELY BENEFICIAL AND MAY BE ONE OF THE REASON WHY IS THE INTERNATIONALS HAD STRUGGLED, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THERE’S NO BACK PLAY EVENT ANYMORE. SO I THINK IT’S BENEFICIAL FOR THE AMERICANS AND MIGHT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE INTERNATIONAL IT IS THEY DON’T GET THE OPPORTUNITY ON THE OTHER YEARS. >> SPEAKING OF LOSING STRATEGIES, LAST WEEK, LIV’S UK ARM PUBLISHED ITS FINANCIALS, WHICH DETAILED A $550 MILLION LOSS IN 2024 ALONE, BRINGING $1.4 BILLION LOSSES IN THREE YEARS FOR THAT SPECIFIC ENTITY. THAT DOESN’T INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT WAS SPENT IN 2025. ISONING COMING AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES SAY WELL NORTH OF $5 BILLION HAVE BEEN TORCHED AT THIS POINT, BUT CAN THE SAUDIS CONTINUE TO FUND THIS FOREVER? >> IT’S ALMOST LIKE MONOPOLY MONEY, AND CLEARLY THE PRODUCT ISN’T WHERE THEY WANT IT TO BE. YOU DON’T HAVE THE CORPORATE PARTNERSHIPS YOU NEED FOR EACH EVENT, AND IT DOESN’T SEEM LIKE YOU’RE HEADING IN A DIRECTION WHERE YOU CAN CLOSE THOSE DEALS. YOU WOULD THINK AT SOME POINT, THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT FUND WOULD GET TIRED OF LOSE THING MONEY. YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY’RE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL. BUT THAT’S A LOT OF MONEY, AND YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE AT SOME POINT YOU CAN’T TELL ME A RETURN IS NOT ON THE HORIZON. YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TEN YEARS FROM NOW. I THINK IT HAS TO EVENTUALLY STOP. >> FORMER U.S. RYDER CUP CAPTAIN LANNY WALKENS SAID THE PGA OF AMERICA SHOULD CONSIDER REMOVING THE 2033 PGA FROM BETHPAGE STATE PARK CONSIDERING WHAT HAPPENED AT THE RYDER CUP. DOES HE HAVE A POINT, OR IS THAT NOT QUITE ADDRESSING FAN BEHAVIOR AS A WHOLE ACROSS THE BOARD, ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THINNING OUT A BUNCH OF MOUTHY LONG ISLANDERS, AS IT WERE. >> I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE REACTIONARY. BUT IT WAS VILE, CRUDE AND VULGAR, BUT IT WASN’T CESSARILY UNSAFE. PLAYERS DIDN’T FEEL UNSAFE, AND I THINK IF IT HAD GOTTEN TO LIKE WOODSTOCK ’99 AT THE 2025 RYDER CUP, YOU COULD BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. IT DOES — BETHPAGE HAS A HISTORY OF THIS. IN 2022, KOEPKA SAID HE WAS BEING JEERED AND BOOED AND TOLD THAT HE WAS CHOKING, AND THE 2028 WOMEN’S PGA CHAMPIONSHIP THAT WILL BE THERE, YOU DON’T THINK THAT TOURNAMENT WOULD ENGENDER THE SAME EMOTIONS. THE GOLF WORLD DOES WORK FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, NOT LEAST OF WHICH IS THE LOCATION. YOU JUST HOPE THAT UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE RUN-UP TO THE RYDER CUP, YOU CAN HAVE AN ADULT STAND UP AND SAY LOOK, WE LOVE NEW YORK CROWDS, WE LOVE THE ENERGY, WE LOVE THE ATMOSPHERE YOU BRING, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL. AND ANYONE WHO CHOOSES TO CROSS THE LINE IS GOING TO BE DEALT WITH SEVERELY AND SWIFTLY. I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE THE MESSAGES FOR THE PGA OF AMERICA HEADING INTO THE 2033 PGA CHAMPIONSHIP. >> REX, YOU WANT TO TELL THE KIDS WHY HE’S WRONG? HE GREW UP IN NEW YORK. HE JUST MADE THE ARGUMENT WHY BETHPAGE DOESN’T WORK, BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY’VE GONE THERE, REGARDLESS OF THE EVENT — >> IT’S NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT. IT’S REPEATED EVERY SINGLE TIME. REX, WHERE ARE YOU ON THAT? >> EVERY SPORTING EVENT IN THE CITY. IF YOU GO TO A JETS GAME, AS AWFUL AS THEY ARE, YOU’LL HEAR FROM THE CROWD. BUT THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO GET. WHEN YOU GO BACK, THE DECISION TO GO TO BETHPAGE, AND HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO REVISIT SOME OF THESE IDEAS, THE REASON THEY WENT THERE, YEAH, THE LOCATION IS THERE. BETHPAGE IS A FANTASTIC VENUE. BUT THEY WENT THERE FOR THE CROWD, BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE ELECTRICITY. IT’S NOT GOING TO CHANGE JUST BECAUSE IT’S A PGA CHAMPIONSHIP. IT MAY NOT BE A LITTLE LESS, BUT JUST NOT QUITE AS UNCOMFORTABLE AS IT WAS AT THE RYDER CUP. BUT YEAH, IT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE LIKE THIS. SO THE PGA OF AMERICA AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO HOLD AN EVENT THERE HAS TO MAKE A DECISION,

Rex Hoggard and Ryan Lavner join Golf Today to discuss Collin Morikawa asking for “absolute chaos” ahead of the 45th Ryder Cup, analyzing the American golfer not taking any blame for poor fan behavior at Bethpage Black. #Golf #GolfToday #CollinMorikawa #RyderCup
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