TJ, Gary, and Owen break down a Ryder Cup that will be remembered for Europe’s fiery start, the U.S. team’s struggles in alternate shot, and a wild Sunday finish that nearly turned the tide. They dig into why the Americans couldn’t match Europe’s precision in foursomes, how key pairings like Bryson and Scheffler didn’t quite click, and why Europe’s chemistry and comfort in the setup made all the difference.

The crew highlights Bryson DeChambeau’s standout play and redemption arc, the dominance of pairings like Rahm and Hatton, and clutch moments from Justin Rose and Matt Fitzpatrick that crushed U.S. momentum. They also debate Keegan Bradley’s captaincy choices, the “envelope rule” half-point, and whether course setup backfired on the U.S. squad.

Sunday brought drama as the Americans stormed back, scoring nine and a half points—the best singles showing in Ryder Cup history—but ultimately fell short. With clutch putts, fiery celebrations, and a showcase of European depth, the Ryder Cup delivered classic moments that left fans talking.

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Welcome back everyone. We are here post Ryder Cup. Made a lot of wrong picks in the last one. Um but you know it was uh certainly turned out to still be one hell of an event after a rough start. So we are uh cheers to the the boys over in Ireland. We got a fresh Guinness cracked open. I know will love this. But I’ve already applied for my dual citizenship to New Zealand. So obviously we over it we talk about a lot. I’m not a big Rory guy, but uh to to battle like he did was was pretty great. And I think having Lowry win it too was like there was no better person to uh to make that winning putt, at least the clinching putt for the uh the cup. Yeah, whatever. [ __ ] him. That was actually it was it was so sick to watch Rory just tell a guy to shut the [ __ ] up and then stick it to like 3 and 1/2 ft. That was nuts. was it just it was so constant too and you only hear the half of it probably from watching TV, right? Like I was reading a couple articles people that were on the grounds and actually talked about or actually um wrote about what was actually said to Rory and then Shane as well as they were going throughout the week and it was uh yeah some pretty not great stuff. Obviously, that’s only that’s a few. That’s not the whole, but but yeah, like you said, TJ Ferrari to keep battling on it. That that’s that’s that’s a lot. Yeah. Him and and I mean, even like when they were grouped together, him and Lowry that uh on Saturday, too, for for like Lowry to stay focused and and do that and and I mean, they said it well after too. It’s like, yeah, like chirp them here and there, but like you’re there to cheer on your team, not right dog the like you don’t go to a baseball game or a basketball game and you’re doing that. Like, yeah, you’re going to boo people, but you’re not it’s you’re not taking it to that level. Yeah. You’re not talking about people’s wives and kids and um unless you’re a Phillies fan of course, but other than that, I mean, you know, it’s just like they were saying, was it Tom Watson that like wrote a tweet and was like want to apologize to the u you know, the European team about just how bad the fans were that whole time. Um yeah, pretty pretty classless honestly. Um, and I know that for a fact uh when they’re in Ireland for the next RDER Cup, it’s going to be uh it’ll it’ll be I I can’t wait for the chance already. I know they’re going to be creative. They’re going to be right on their ass. It’s going to be it’s going to be a good time. Yeah. Um going Yeah. Not only that, but even even when it comes back here and it’s up in Minnesota, like Minnesota people are so different than people there on Long Island, too. It’s going to be a whole different vibe. Yeah. I wonder to what extent like the price of the tickets affected things too of like obviously TJ just had a kid so like you weren’t going to go but I don’t know if Gary you looked at the ticket price like I did. I I when I saw $700 I was like yeah absolutely not. Like I really wanted to go. I was excited to go. Like I played at Bage a couple of times was really looking forward to it and I saw that and I was like yeah not a question like no no question not even going. So, you wonder if it priced out like some of the well-meaning good golf stands to a certain extent. Yeah. Um and that it maybe brought in certain people that were just kind of looking to go to a show versus I don’t know going to a golf event, you know. Um we’ll never know. I think that’s true. And you you you don’t really have like the your average attendees of like a PGA tour event there either like and same thing not their average attendees of like a live event even like you know what I mean live events aren’t like that but like you have these other people I think you had a lot in the the audience that were people that don’t necessarily follow pro golf but more so like a lot of the people that just like kind of watch YouTube golf and we’re like oh this is an event that happens every four years here like we got to go right and almost didn’t know how to act type of thing you Exactly. Yeah. Friday, Saturday. Yeah. Let’s [ __ ] go [ __ ] Europe. Beat us in in in Long Island in Beth Paige. No one thought they’d be able to do it. Watching the Sunday. Thought they were about to choke it away. Um, but they absolutely flipping dominated them the first two days. And I can’t wait. That’s just I can’t wait for you to cut a reel that’s just Owen saying [ __ ] the US and Ice just shows up in the store. No, no, please don’t do that. No, it was like like obviously I don’t think the US played I don’t think they played great on Friday. I think they actually played okay on Saturday, but Europe just played so well both Friday and Saturday that it wouldn’t have mattered. Friday was dude. Um, four ball to start was just not the way to do it. Just not the play. We started forums. Foursomes and then four ball. Yeah. And we [ __ ] blow. I mean those forsome teams. They were tra what? They were so bad. Bryson’s great, but Bryson cannot. Bryson is not a forsome’s play. Like he plays his own ball fine, but like that’s not everyone’s play style. And same with Scotty. Scotty’s so good about getting out of trouble, but it just didn’t set up Russell Hemley or JT for like much success, right? Um, and then the only point the US got the day was Xander and and Canley, which like those guys are always they’ve been solid. They played they played really well. I mean, right from the get-go, Bryson was [ __ ] dialed. That first hole, you’re like, “All right, this is [ __ ] sick.” watching JT play those like I don’t know maybe first five six holes just knew that nothing was gonna come out of it just nothing good he he couldn’t buy a [ __ ] shot and it’s just frustrating because it’s like you could tell that he was just getting in his own way and Bryson was doing his best to be like no you got this like vibes trying to keep the vibes up but it also didn’t matter because Europe was just foot to the throat the whole day I think at one point what They were all up like a minimum of two I think it was at one point and I was just like Jesus it was it was rough. Yeah. I think historically like at home rider cups um forsomes in the morning the home team typically does pretty well. Um but I think historically maybe Europe’s a little better in that regard. Um but yeah, it’s it was a weird year for it, I guess, in that um you’re going up against for in terms of US guys, they had four rookies this year. Europe had one rookie and it was his and his brother was the guy that was there last year, you know, and he was there um a part of the team but not playing last year in Rasmma’s Hoy Guard. Um so it’s a weird format. It’s something that they they don’t play at all on the tour. they maybe try to replicate it and um non-competitive situations, but it’s just it’s a mindset as well is um I guess matchups, you know, um and just Europe maybe being more comfortable with it. Um just having that little bit of edge like maybe that just is why they were so dominant at it, you know? Um yeah, I mean even with the four ball too, like I don’t know, they just they they almost got in their heads a little bit, I think, and it was like they knew they were fighting back. Um much better showing in the afternoon from the US, but you know, like those there were so many European players that were just hot putting great on those greens and and even Keegan said uh after everything, you know, like he said that the greens played way softer. He thought they were going to firm up more and they just never did. Um, and way more receiving than they were expecting to as you know he was trying to set it up for for their success. But yeah, do you want to talk about the course? I think Sorry, go ahead TJ. My bad. Well, no, I was just going to say I think um like obviously we always play golf up here in similar climate and similar style and all that and and I almost wonder if some of it is like so many of these US guys grew up more down south, right? Cam Young played great and he’s from up here in New York, but then a lot of these guys from from England and and Ireland, you know, they grew up playing similar climates and similar courses. Like it’s not a link style course, but like it’s it’s more similar. I think like when they it gets down to that under pressure, it’s like you kind of fall back to that like muscle memory almost and they like I think they were just more comfortable on that course. And I think it could be the same way when they go to Minnesota too, just being that northern course, you know? It it was hot at Beth Page, but like might not be that hot at Minnesota and it it plays so differently, right? Like they like I know in years past they’ve always talked about when you go to Europe Rider Cup when you’re playing in Europe, they kind of heighten the rough and uh uh narrow the fairways a little bit. um just to make it tougher for maybe the historically long hitters for uh US in years past. And then and then look at it this year where like I played at Beth Page three times and I went there for the 2019 PJ Championship. The rough was like nowhere near what it normally is. um which I didn’t really get going into it just because I feel like years past your rider cup would be so much more the PJ tour versus the European tour now the DP world tour and they be kind of in in Europe you’re playing different courses right and then over here you’re playing different courses but now it’s just like pretty much everybody from the European team plays on the PJ tour all the time and plays American courses and more used to them what have and also obviously have a bunch of long hitters on on Europe as well. So I didn’t really wholly understand that like I think it kind of I mean I don’t know if growing up the rough and keeping the fairways some of the fairways that they had widened keeping them where they were before I don’t know how much of a difference that would have made. Um but yeah definitely think it it it it kind of backfired in a way. Yeah. And I don’t know if some of that was like to almost set up like Bryson and Scotty that can kind of hit a little offline at times. Like they’re good playing on the rough. I don’t know if it was trying to help them, but then you know, I mean, they obviously struggled a lot all week and and that’s a lot of workload. Like they played five times both those guys. Like that’s it’s a lot of golf. Mhm. Um but yeah, I mean then Saturday obviously again what 30 to1 3 to1 for Europe and it’s just same type of thing. Struggle didn’t have a chance in the forsomes again. I mean same same thing like Bryson and and Scotty I don’t think can be playing in forsomes. They just I don’t think Scotty’s ever won in forsomes now, right? I think he’s lost every single time he’s been there. He he four ball and then he’s won singles, but it’s just not his format. No, it was um Go ahead, Gary. No, go ahead. You’re good. So, I wrote down a couple notes from Friday at least and felt like Matt Fitzpatrick played like extremely well and so if I remember correctly, it’s Matt Fitzpatrick and Ligberg versus Russell Henley and uh Scotty. Um, and Lugvig was teeing off on the odd holes as well as Russell. So, it’s like Fitzpatrick and Sheffller matched up. And there’s just a bunch of instances I have jotted down here of like the first hole, um, Matt Fitzpatrick’s Patrick was hitting from 76 yards and he put the ball to 4’9 in. Um, that was after Scotty was hitting from 149 uh yards away and he he Scotty had hit it to 38 ft. Um and then there’s a another one. This is that is a little different here, but hole three is par three. Um Memphis Patrick is out of left rough and and Scotty and Russell were on the green. They had like a 20-footer and and Matt Fitzpatrick hit it to 23 in his chip and put the pressure on Scotty. So it’s like there’s a lot of that of like it’s a team, right? It’s not an Sure, you have the number one player in the world on on your team, but like I think Russell Henley’s actually might be up there as well. But anyways, um yeah, he is. It’s just they kind of seem to complement each other a little more in terms of um Love and Matt Fitzpatrick and similar length um similar distance, used to hitting similar shots into holes and what have you. So I that definitely stuck out to me on the Friday at least. Yeah, I mean I think Henley’s someone that just doesn’t he doesn’t really mish hit. His his misses are not that far off line and we’ve seen Scotty, you know, he’ll flare these things way out, but then he’ll find a way to save par and and when you’re playing an alt shot like that, it’s, you know, Henley’s not used to playing from these some of the spots that he was in like it’s it was just brutal. And then same thing then um because they were grouped again on Saturday too, Henley and Sheffler again. I think they switched um the teeing order, but you know, it just they didn’t even stand a chance. Uh yeah, and then obviously we get to to Sunday. Um so, you know, the big story is uh with Havlin and the injury and the half point um with the envelope rule, which obviously will um so the the US did benefit from the rule. I believe it was like 30 40 years ago when it was like made. Um, and then obviously like Europe did now, they didn’t really need it, but I’m sure that will be long gone before uh the next RDER Cup. Um, but uh obviously it would have been the biggest comeback of all time and I think uh there was a time where I shut it off. I started watching it when it started, but then it got to the point where it was red zone was on the RDER Cup and I knew, you know, we got a long shot. the Eagles are playing. The Phillies had the last game and I turned it off for a bit and then I think it was after the Eagles were had won, I turned it back on and it was like at that time we were there was like a lot of even matches and it was like a there’s a chance if we get hot and they started I mean that had to have been the best Sunday in the RDER Cup in a long time. I I think it was to try to be battling that out. Yeah, I think it might have been the most points scored on a Sunday all time. Um what was it? They scored nine and a half points. Europe only won one match. Um and um yeah, just to think of like eight and a half eight and a half, sorry. Um yeah, but yeah, it’s insane. Yeah, just to think of how dominant Europe was the first four sessions and then for USA to put on an absolute show and come back on Sunday and gain all those points and have a good a fair shot of it at the end. Um, that’s that’s pretty impressive. Like I I felt I kind of I’m a nice guy I like to think, you know. So I kind of felt bad for the US team in a little bit and like Keegan as well cuz like I don’t think he was like I don’t think he made any like terrible decisions I guess. Um no but for them to be getting trounced by that much and at home and at back page that’s pretty embarrassing. So, for them to come back, but it’s just like it’s just like a like Keegan was in a spot of like uh how do I put this? Like like a baseball manager, a baseball manager is going to live and die by how the players that he puts out there, right? Like that team could [ __ ] be amazing and that coach could not be great, but he’s still going to be stuck around. If if it ain’t fixed, don’t broke it. Or if it if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Yeah. So the like you’re saying with Keegan, I don’t think he made any bad calls necessarily. I think you could argue like the the way that it was set up like he could have switched around, you know, like like we talked about earlier with the foresomes and four ball. Um, but I think that the way that they the matchups that they set uh for Sunday, I think that it was really it was a good call because I think that even though they were down, Keegan had a feeling that they were like, you know, they could do some they could come back from regardless of what the deficit was on Sunday from from solo play. But to say that to your point though to say like Keegan um like it’s not his fault that the number one golfer in the world [ __ ] the bed the JT went out there and did absolutely nothing that you know all the other uh matchups like hot too you know like it was you can’t you can’t desecrate um um sorry you can’t you can’t gives can’t say Keegan did anything wrong when uh you know it’s not he has no control over it like once he’s in between the ropes you know hats off to Europe they literally they absolutely dominated all weekend so I don’t really think it mattered who was on that Rder Cup team for the US we weren’t we weren’t stopping them yeah I mean I think there’s like he has some questionable matchups but we’re not talking a lot we’re talking like maybe like three you know what I mean over those Uh, I mean, [ __ ] what is it? 16 matches to start between, you know, like three bad. So, it’s like, okay, give them a point and a half out of that. Like, it’s not It wasn’t that bad. Um, yeah, like the one that stood out was sending out more Kyle and Harris English on the second day when they lost by margin that I will agree with you. Yeah. But like going back to kind of what you were saying Gary of like he he can’t control some of the things of like I shot j shot it down on Saturday four ball chain Rory Maroy as a team birdied the last five holes. Um Justin Rose made eight birdies alone on the Saturday and uh Terrell Hat and birdied his last four holes on Saturday as well. So like that just at a certain point it’s like what can you do like in in those instances what can you do and like John Rob when he chipped in on eight um I can’t remember what session it was but that was like from when he was standing in the bunker the balls above his feet in Oh yeah hitting towards the session right against Shaw and Klay which was insane to to beat those two. Yeah. So, it’s Ramen. Ramen and Hatton I think like were it’s hard to say because Fleetwood and Rose were so solid together too, but I don’t I think people knew Fleetwood and Rose were going to be solid. I don’t think Rah and Hat and I think kind of impressed people and I think some of that really is built off like their live chemistry, you know, like they just they dominated together and that was I wasn’t expecting that like some of these other guys were. You like kind you see them play. They’re both kind of fiery guys, right? Like you’ll see Terrell hat John at his putter when he when it does when the ball doesn’t break when it goes or John at his club. I I saw him like take I can’t remember what tournament it was but take he putted maybe missed the putt knocked in the next one took the ball out of the cup walked over to the pond and absolutely spiked the ball into the pond that like the two there were some there there were some good moments from like that throughout the weekend that I really enjoyed. Um what was the other one? The um oh when uh Ben Griffin hit that like 51 foot putt or 52 foot putt and then J Rose just steps up and goes hold on young fell let me just knock this like 45footer in and both were straight in the heart just dead in the heart and just sucked the air out of that place. Yeah, the whole seven. Ben Griffin made it from 56 feet 3 in and then Justin Rose stepped up and made a 41 footer right after it. Like just [ __ ] like Yeah, like you said, Gary, there’s definitely a bunch of moments like that like um or it’s either uh US did something and Europe responded or that that’s that’s the part about the RDER Cup that you love of having those moments of having seeing those guys fired up, seeing these crazy long putts go in. Yeah. Um that’s that’s I forget which hole it was when Bryson hit the when Bryson hit the big birdie there and he meanwalked to he was meanwhalked like a [ __ ] animal killer right to the hole picked up the ball and he’s like what [ __ ] go. I’m like dude that I also like I know that a lot of people don’t like Bryson. I have become such a Bryson fan and watching him I think it was really good for golf in general to see a guy right like Bryson who left to go to live come back and put on a [ __ ] show for the US and basically was you know their MVP of this weekend. It was really cool to watch him just I don’t know people people were like really behind him after like hating on him for so long earlier in his career. So, um, yeah, watching him bring that kind of energy was that was [ __ ] cool. Yeah, I think him the battle back after being down five through seven on Sundays. That was a lot. And and Fitzpatrick’s a good match play golfer, too. Like, that was that was really impressive to do that to uh just to get to the tie. I mean, he had that chance there, but Yeah. But that was the second match, right? That was the second. That was the third. And that was after Cam and JT. I mean, Cam Cam Young was uh so he had the most for us. Him and Shley both scored three. I mean, Cam Young was money all week. Um but those guys to win it on 18. This I didn’t look this up. I meant to look it up. I This had to have been the most matches that have gone to 18 ever. I I wrote this down too, right? Had to I think it was all but like two of them, right? Nine of the 12 matches. So, nine of the 11 matches ended on 18 cuz obviously Havlin and Harris English didn’t play. So, um I believe that’s the most ever. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And I even think there was some of those like after Lowry had made his you like obviously there’s rumblings around the course but like there was a couple putts I saw that like Morocawa and Burns should like so Rob McIntyre missed. I think he three puttered from five foot on uh whatever was it 16. Yeah. Yeah. 16. He took a six and then Sam Burns like he gave him another one on 17 and it’s like man I would have had him putt it. He was struggling like he Sam Burns could have won that match. I think Sam and Morawa they both have halfed but they were given some you know cuz they knew they couldn’t get the cup back but I I really think they could have battled and actually easily been 14 and a half. Yeah. It’s it’s part of the etiquette though like of do you really want to put someone else in like if you’re in their shoes and you you send someone to make a a short two-footer three-footer and have them hit it and miss it and then that’s an embarrassing moment on a big stage like that etiquette like is that the the proper thing to do like put but isn’t that part of a game but but isn’t that part of the game like that’s you’re signing up you’re signing up for the Rder Cup because you’re supposed to be the best in the world, right? So you that that should be a lock no matter what. Like I understand the part of the etiquette like you’re saying and more times than not you’re going to see that. But if you’re the best in the world and somebody’s going to tell you that that’s not good, you should be able to step up over a I mean they make 10, 15, 20 footers like we make, you know, a footer. But even I don’t know. I I don’t I don’t think I see some of those putts and I’m like why are you giving them that? Like even the average golfer is like what the [ __ ] are you doing? Like I I get it, but at the same time, I mean, who’s to say that, you know, Rory steps up and doesn’t lip one and accidentally, you know, leaves one short. That could be, you know, two, three uh strokes of a swing there. That could be a whole swing. It’s I don’t understand it. I get the etiquette part. I understand that. But if you’re the best in the world, you should have to put everything out no matter what. That’s just my I think if it was already lost too, but because there was still the chance to tie for the the cup, like yes, the US wouldn’t have retained it. But I I think if it was lost, you know what I mean? the other guys were they were down that extra half point. If Europe was already at 15, then it’s, you know, it’s like, hey, let’s go play 18, pick it up, you know, but when there was still that chance to get to the tie, which again with with having that half point on the board already from the Havlin situation, you know what I mean? Like that that changed things because that that that last match was not supposed to be the anchor match, you know what I mean? like it it it kind of put that other twist into things, but certainly a uh a Sunday for the ages. And then the um so the top European scorer was Fleetwood. He had four and then Rory and Hatton both had three and a half. Damn. Which was insane. I mean Hatton and Rahm were not losing. Rahm was there in fourth with three points. just say did what’ you say how many did Justin Rose had you know uh Justin Rose he actually only had two I mean he lost on Sunday and then I I think there was another Yeah I know it did feel like more but I I just Well he saw the most was [ __ ] up team USA did he only play in three sessions Maybe I think so. Yeah. So the Friday four ball him and him flee would be Griffin and Duchambo and then they played Scotty and Bryson on Saturday. So he only did play three. So he won both and then he lost the singles which Cam Young battled back you know. Well I guess he didn’t really battle back but it was just this is probably his last RDER cup I would assume, right? I don’t No, I think he’s 47. I mean, he’s still been in contention in these majors. You know what I mean? He just won a few months ago. Like he’s still in the mix. But everyone ended up scoring a point point except for Rasmus Hoygard, which obviously he only played Sunday and then I think one other did he play a different day? Friday’s four ball. Yeah, that was it. So only having the two shots and and that Yeah, that was the four ball. They lost to It was him and Oberg and they lost to Young and JT 6 and5 which is Cam Young is Jesus dialed. Yeah, they hit him. They um they showed an interesting thing on Golf Channel. Um it was on the Saturday night uh live from the Ryder Cup. They had a thing that said fewest points earned by world number one. Um and then went down the list was Ian Wman um at Kwa Island 1991. He only had one point. Dustin Johnson in 2018 in France only had one point. Scotty Sheffller in Rome only had one point. And then Scotty Sheffller Paige only had one point. I mean Rory’s just or not Rory, Scotty’s just not a good forsomes player. Fourball is fine. But and and I don’t know if you saw Dan Rabport put a thing out like his preview episode was like if Scotty goes 0 for five he was like Dan Rap was like I’m done I’m going to retire like we’re done with the show and then he kept posing as the week went on like boys I don’t know this is I might not have a living after this but he battled it out with uh beating Rory there on Sunday. Yeah. Um there was I don’t who was it? Oh, Shane Lowry made the putt to retain the cup. Um I remember thinking on 18 when they what he So on 18 Russell Henley was up and and Russell Henley’s never really been in as high of a pressure situation. I’d say maybe Shane Lowry hasn’t either, but Shane Lowry’s won. He won the Irish Open in 2009 as an amateur obviously in Ireland. Um he I think it was 2016 in where is it? Sorry, it’s 20 I can’t remember what year it was but he had a a four-stroke lead going into the Sunday of the US Open and he ended up losing losing by two strokes. And then 2019 he had the open in Port Rush um where when I hadn’t been in Ireland for um 50s something years like Shane had been in in those situations before. So if you take that small moment of like those two going against and Shane hit it right down the fairway and then I think Russell hit it. Henley was in the left bunker. Yeah. Which he played uh he played a really good shot in. It was just it, you know, Lowry was inside of him and he showed him the read a little bit. Exactly. You know, Henley didn’t have a bad putt there, but I think I think and I remember I think well I think they were talking so it it was he had a very similar putt to Cam Young and whoever it was was on the broadcast was like Cam Young can and his caddy can relay that message to Keegan and Keegan can relay that to Henley if they want to. Not that it necessarily helps because, you know, they have their own approach to putting, but you know, maybe that makes a difference if you’re you’re a little bit more, you know, helpful. But then you you don’t want to tell these guys what to do. He’s the what is he like the third best American golfer Henley is. Like he’s just solid, you know? He doesn’t he doesn’t miss. So I think but he didn’t hit a bad putt and then Go ahead. I think I think Cam Young said he blacked out, too. Like he didn’t even remember how it broke. Yeah, he did. Yeah. But yeah, Russell Henley hit the his putt on 17 and his putt on 18. Both of them were short. So he like didn’t quite give it a chance to go in the hole. Obviously didn’t give it enough. So you wonder if maybe now I haven’t been as in as high pressure situations. That had a factor at all. Yeah. I mean that and and like you said earlier too, just they had a lot of rookies and not that the rookies played poorly. Um, you know, I I think like JJ and Griffin played okay. Um, obviously Cam Young was stood out, but uh, who was the other? Was Henley the other one? No, Henley’s played in one before, right? Was it Harris? Or has he just played in President’s Cup? I don’t know. Good question. Harris English has kind of been up in the rankings a bit, too. It’s got to be one of those guys cuz Morawa’s played him before and everyone else obviously has been up there. Um but yeah, like JJ had two points. Ben Griffin only had one, but I think Ben Griffin kind of he got group with Bryson on one of those days and played in two sessions on day one. Yeah, it was just tough, you know what I mean, to uh to put him there. Yeah, but that’s when they lost to to Rose and and Fleetwood. I actually I think they just made a lot of birdies. Yeah. Going back to the putt that Gary was talking about that that Griffin nailed it and then what can you do when Justin Rose really steps up? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It It’s interesting too because it it if this would have been a President’s Cup year, I I don’t I don’t know if the US would have beat him because they were kind of struggling. They pulled us together on Sunday, but man, if they were struggling that much, like can you imagine them traveling like that to the international team, it would have been, you know, that cuz like again, Europe Europe’s solid. They got a lot of great golfers right now. A lot of them are really hot. And having those 11 returning players was a huge advantage. And and Luke Donald too, you know, he he had great matchups every single time. Just knew what he was doing. Um Yeah. like the experience and the captaincy like obviously that um like just one Luke Donald captain last time around Keegan this is his first time he got thrown in it but I wrote down that Keegan only has ever played in two RER cups and he played in two president’s cup versus Luke Donald played in four obviously this is his second captaincy and then if you want can go down in all the vice president’s captaincies as well outside of maybe Jim Furick like all the Europeans have if not equal more way more experience than than uh the likes of Brandt Snder Gary Gary Woodland Kevin Kisner. Kevin Ker has never played in Ryder Cup Gary Woodland neither. Um which is just like that’s not the determined factor by any means but it maybe just gives slight edge. Kiz is Kiz is always solid when it comes to match play, but you know it’s he’s more I I’m a big Ker guy. He’s a big vibes guy too. It was weird um seeing cuz his longtime caddyy Dwey was uh who’s he caddyy for now Substraa. So seeing Dewey, you know Dewey, right? He’s like that big guy and he’s got the massive [ __ ] C. It was just weird seeing him you know he’s a you know southern guy, great dude and he’s on the Europe back for a Europe guy. That was just tough. That had been hard for him to celebrate but I’m sure he was [ __ ] partying with him hard. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for watching today’s episode. To see more of our content, be sure to follow us on Instagram, Tik Tok, and subscribe on YouTube. We can be found at BasicBogies on all platforms. Thanks. We hope to see you on the next one.

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