Scottish Open winner Chris Gotterup joins the show to discuss playing behind enemy lines in the final group with Rory, finishing 3rd at The Open, and what it will take to make the Ryder Cup team. Before Gotterup, we discuss notable names to miss the Tour playoffs, Trent’s Dead & Company Gold Gate weekend, and Riggs’ trip through the PNW to Coeur d’Alene.
12:50 – Trent sees Dead & Co.
17:55 – Ian Baker-Finch retires
27:55 – Cam Young’s first win
30:05 – Notable names to miss the playoffs
34:45 – Riggs in Idaho
44:25 – Origins of Fore Play
1:01:35 – Chris Gotterup joins the show!
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Chevrolet and the Equinox EV. I got to tell you, I’ve been driving all over this Pacific Northwest. I had a two and a half hour drive from Spokane to Gamble Sands. Driving all around Gamble Sands and then from Gamble to Celane is a good three-hour trek or so. I went up to the Verizon store the other day to kind of check out what’s new in the in the iPhone world. Um, and I did all of it, all of it with my Chevy Equinox EV that I’ve rented for the week. this thing too, man. When you’re cruising for that long, first of all, I was able to go um thanks to the uh Equinox EV, 319 miles of EPA estimated electric range with frontwheel drive. So, I was able to go easily easily from Gamble Sands to Cordelane on a single charge. Trent, yeah, they’re incredible, incredible vehicles. We got an incredible show for you. We talk Ian Baker Finch. We’ve got Chris GD up on the show. Um I recap I recap my weekend in San Francisco. We have we have a a a caller with uh from the gallery who asked for a little bit of foreplay history. So, we go through that a little bit. It’s just a it’s a full packed show for a Tuesday. It is a full pack show. And and yeah, uh on my my uh drive across basically the state of Washington into Idaho. I can’t tell you how nice it is having that 17inch diagonal center screen. It’s the largest of any EV in its class. But, you know, being able to pick a podcast, music, being able to look at the the roads, obviously, you know, the map so that you know where you’re going, all of that stuff on the uh on the 17in screen is so nice to have. And then, like I said, I took it to Verizon the other day. Turns out real quick at Verizon, and this is all about Chevy, but uh I don’t think they’re necessarily competitors, but took the old Equinox EV up to uh up to Verizon. I went in to get a new phone because I thought my phone screen was pretty cracked up. And the guy was like offering up, you know, oh, you can do a trade in if your phone’s in decent shape. I was like, unfortunately, it’s like cracked. He’s like, oh, is your screen cracked or is that just the screen protector that’s cracked? And I was like, huh. Sure enough, peeled off that peeled off that screen protector that I had put on that I never knew I had put on and this thing, baby. And he gave me this like I bought this cleaner stuff and another layer of like screen protector. They got like the screen protector gel thing now that I put on there and I gave it a nice Dude, my phone’s better than it was when I bought it. This thing. So, I didn’t even have to get a new phone. I got the iPhone 15, I think, is what I’m rocking and it I thought it was all bummed out and messed up. It’s beautiful. This thing’s beautiful. So, um, so anyways, you want, you know, having new technology is great. The new Chevy Equinox EV, once again, it’s the best in class. We got a fantastic show today, so let’s do this. Have you let your mind wander at all to the 2026 Masters tournament? It’s funny. I I didn’t all day like and then when Rory missed, I was like, “Holy [ __ ] I’m going to play in the Masters for Play Bar Stool Sports. We got a big show today. We’ve got Chris Gdder up who was really carrying the red, white, and blue across the pond last couple weeks at the uh Scottish Open playing against Rory Mroy. And then at the uh the Open Championship, I believe he finished third in that event. But we get into all of it, man. We He’s a very chill guy. We did about a full hour with Chris. We talk about, you know, potentials for the RDER Cup. Uh playing in that final group with Rory, what Rory was like, what the crowds were like, what his game feels like, his whole entire up, you know, kind of uh I don’t want to say upbringing, but we talk upbringing. We talk his upand cominging career. He did, I think, four years at Ruckers and then transferred to Oklahoma. Um, where he became like the top collegiate golfer. Uh, he beat our one Alistister Dockerty last year in the Myrtle Beach Classic. So, quite the story from Chris Garup. And like I said, he’s a uh, you know, you guys were kind of out there interviewing him when we did the Cornfair Tour event a couple years ago, too. Yeah, I really like Chris Garup. I was not around for this interview that is in today’s episode, so I am interested to listen to it. Really nice guy, really chill guy. Um, did he catch wind of I don’t want to spoil too much of the interview, but did he catch wind of us putting him on the way too early Ryder Cup team? Yep. You know, he uh he had a very he had a very like uh I would say proper mindset towards the RDER Cup, which was just play better. That was pretty much all he that’s pretty much what you know and we we did we got into it. asked him if he has any uh conversation with Keegan Bradley and he kind of reveals a bit of that. But it is funny Tread that you asked because our uh our way too early uh Rder Cup team you know did did get a little bit of feedback from some people for sure. It did. Yeah. I know it uh I don’t know if ruffled feathers is the right way to look at it, but yes, not that we forget that there’s people who listen to the show and that when we put out graphics, the Instagram has a million followers and people are going to see it and send it to people who may or may not be on that list. So, you know, we just and we listen, we made the we said that it was way too early and it was and those were just our picks in the moment. That’s just is what it is. And if you want to be on the team, whether you know you make the top six or you get picked by Captain Keegan, it’s the same mindset that it sounds like God has where it’s just play better and and you might be on it. That’s pretty much what it comes down to. I also I always kind of laugh at some of the feedback like you know like the feedback almost comes in from some folks like Keegan Bradley is going to look at our list and heavily consider it when he makes his choices for the captain’s picks, which is not the case whatsoever. There’s not a list that could be looked at less by that man I think than the one that we’re going to put out. Totally agree. Uh so Chris got her up for the uh for like I said for about an hour. So he’s going to be kind of the meat of the show. We do have a few things to cover beforehand. I believe we got a Frankie one man scramble video coming out this week. So uh gear up, get your, you know, get your popcorn and get ready for that. We’re trying to crank out as much unique, interesting, new stuff as we can on the channel. Frankie’s hot right now with his yardages uh post from last week. You know, I know he brought that up with got her up. People just roasted him for his yardages, which I think is ridiculous. I think it’s a absolute testament to Frankie that he put out just genuine authentic like this. What happened? The five iron things got people rattled and him ruffled a little bit, but um but we got a Frankie one man scramble coming out I think this week. I’ve heard some some rumors and some rumblings about this one man scramble and it’s that it’s very interesting because we’ve talked a lot about it and Frankie’s talked about it just in general where when you’re out there playing you wish you had that second ball just like all right and sometimes you do just drop one and you’re like all right let me try that again to see if I can actually hit a good one player baby player B you know second team all-American the whole deal where you’re like all right now that I know what I shouldn’t do I’m going to try and do it the right way and I think the results were very very very interesting So definitely check out the uh the oneman scramble video for Frankie Belli. I’m sure there’ll be some neurosis. I’m sure there’ll be some second guessing. I’m sure there’ll be a lot of ups and downs. So I’m I’m excited myself to watch that video. We got some interesting happenings um overall this week. Uh big thanks to everybody who bought Golf Dad stuff. That line is just a behemoth right now. and the the gear that our merchandise team um Polar Allison Quinn the whole entire crew over there working with Frankie and with our team uh the gear is phenomenal. And then also um people buying it, it just goes a long way. I’m seeing it all over the place at the Bartool Classics now. So my friends from back home who I’ll be playing with this week have bought a lot of the Golf Dad gear. So just a huge thank you from us because it’s been doing incredibly well. Yeah, we we’ve been getting updates on how it’s doing and it is doing really really well. Um, you know, shout out to Frankie for having a kid and, you know, having this line just develop selfless move for the brand. Incredibly, it would have been disingenuous had we put this thing out, you know, two years ago when none of us were were fathers. So, it just worked out and yeah, it does really well. Shout out to everybody who bought it and is is continues to buy it. And it’s just it’s a no-brainer line. I mean, there’s golf dads out there. There’s a ton of them and we sell merch for them. Um, absolutely. So, a huge thank you. Speaking of Frankie and the two dads on our show, we got Frankie and Brendan are at Forest Dunes right now. I’m sure people that follow on social are seeing them post quite a bit, but Frankie’s got his uh buddies trip with a bunch of his family, friends. He was very kind enough to uh bring Jonesy along for that trip, which Jonesy needs probably more than anybody on earth with that man um grinding and and running this entire operation behind the scenes from a production standpoint, from a logistics standpoint, from an everything standpoint. Jones, he kind of runs our entire lives. And uh so him being out there with Frankie, I can’t wait to hear about all of that. Uh and then I’ve got my own trip coming uh the second half of this week. I’m going to Michigan as well. I’m going with all my brother and our St. Louis buddies. uh kind of our day ones. We’re doing our what is it? Our sixth year that we’re doing um this trip. We call it the struggle. It’s got the struggle bus logo which people obviously like. Um so we’re going to Arcadia Bluffs in Michigan. Um so once I return from that trip, I’m sure I’ll be here to talk all about it. But I can’t wait to get out there. Um but I I also like to take this opportunity. Have we introduced Mr. Ryan Richson to everybody yet? Trip. I believe we did on one of the shows that Frankie and I did. We had him hop on. Um, Brendan was by his side and we we did we introduced Ryan Richen. So, the world knows about our new podcast producer. So, yeah, we got a new guy, you know, adding one to the team here and we’re just going to be we’re going to we’re going to be rolling now. Luckily, Jones is not going to have to handle all of the um the podcast work anymore. You know, obviously when the Bush man um went over and joined Scratch and and Drap and that whole crew Jonesy was, you know, and I just mentioned that he needs a a vacation, a golf trip more than anybody on planet Earth. He was handling all the duties that he usually handles, which is a lot, plus like editing and and sitting here for the podcast the entire time, which he usually doesn’t have to do. I’m sure I can’t imagine anyone gets sick and tired of hearing our voices more than that man and seeing our faces. And then the fact that he also was um had to succumb to like three hours worth of us podcasting and then edit and all that. Now at least we got Ryan that can help out bringing in a little bit of young fresh blood and the excitement into the mix. So u so any very exciting stuff. Welcome to Ryan. I wasn’t here for that show and um and yeah, a couple trips and then next week Trent Ryan will be at the Internet Invitational. I know man, it’s coming up. It’s coming up quickly and we’ve been having a lot of meetings about it just over the last couple months. We’ve had a few in the last week and it’s happening. I knew I mean of course it’s it was going to happen but you’re just sort of always looking at the calendar like all right that’s four months away. All right that’s three months away that’s two months away and we’ve got a lot going on just in general and so does everybody else. You know the Bob does guys are really busy. Dave is the busiest guy in the world. So you’re just sort of holding on and then all of a sudden it’s a week away and I’m very excited for it and but I’m also you know I’m nervous for it because we’re putting it on. You got to get all the logistics down. you’re having a lot of big name, big follower people coming and showing up and taking their time to participate in the event. So, yeah, I’m excited for it, but it’s, you know, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t nervous. I’m less nervous after last week’s meeting. We had a great meeting last week. Um, we kind of went through for an hour or so, Dave, Bob does crew, our crew, and we really kind of put the finishing touches on the format, the dayto-day, the logistics, and there were just a few things that we could talk about afterwards. You know, we’re kind of we’re cards a little close to the chest. We think we’ve come up with a great format so that you know folks going in. We want it to truly be where anyone can be part of this a very small group team that’s going to win this million dollar plus prize. It’s not just like oh you know Wesley Bryan and um Grant Horvat are going to like compete for this entire thing. Of course the best players always have kind of an advantage. It’s golf and this is the thing that we’re doing. but trying to come up with a very interesting format that allows anybody the opportunity to compete without having to do like strokes and handicaps because that gets insanely controversial that gets a little bit confusing to just the average viewer. So anyways, we’ve been tweaking all this stuff. I feel like we had a phenomenal meeting last week and I kind of feel like we’re in a great place with it. Still nervous, still a lot of personalities kind of all coming together in one place behind something that we’ve kind of put together and spearheaded. So definitely nervous, but next week is the Internet Invitational where we’re we’re going to be filming all of it and then it’ll probably take a month or so and we’ll start releasing a lot of those videos. But yeah, very excited for all that. Very excited. Um I just want to quickly say before we get into I’m sure you have uh some sort of agenda about what we’re going to talk about. I was in San Francisco this last weekend um for Deaden Company shows. I went with Noah Ives who is the producer for Chicks in the Office. He’s been doing this 30 before 30 list where, you know, he just he listed 30 things. He turns 30 in October and he just made a list of 30 things that he wants to do before he turns the age of 30. And one of those was go to the Dead and Company shows in San Francisco. It was the 60th anniversary of the Grateful Dead. And they did three shows we went to Friday and Saturday. And the reason I bring it up is just to tell people to go do stuff because it’s really really fun. You know, this was I think this might have been on the first time where I’ve gone to shows where it’s like multiple shows in a weekend. Normally I go to a concert and then I just leave because there’s only one show and that’s all you do. Going to an event where there’s multiple shows. There’s something about that where you go the first night, you have a really good time, you sort of get the lay of the land where you’re going to stand, what’s the order of like who’s going up in terms of the acts, and then you watch the whole night, you have a great time. And then to have that second day where you just know what you’re doing, you know where the shuttle is, you know where the Uber station is, like you know where to get drinks, you know where to get food. And to have just a whole other new show the next night was just really great. So I really would just want to motivate and inspire people to go to these shows and it was a great show for me. The reason I wanted to go was I’m I’ve become a Grateful Dead fan over the last couple years and the the music is incredible and I love it. But the openers for both nights that we went or the first night was Billy Strings, who I really love, and the second night was Sturggil Simpson, who I really, really love. So I was like, “Oh, when I saw that lineup come out, I was like, “Oh, I have to go to this.” Noah wanted to go for his 30 before 30. So it all just worked out. Um, yeah, it was just an incredible weekend. And and just shout out to Game Time who helped us out. Shout out to everybody. I just I want people to go do things. That’s pretty much the the main point. Look at you flying all the way across the country to go to a concert all the way as pretty much as far as you can go. Florida to San Francisco. Would have never seen that Trent Ryan not that long ago. I feel like that would have never been a man. You would never be a man who would have done such a thing. I think you’re probably right. And I don’t know what has changed. I have no idea. But you find out cuz I think for a long time I was probably the guy who was like, “No, I just don’t want to do anything all the time.” And I’m still like that 95% which is nice by the way which is still a nice thing to do. Oh dude it’s it still is probably my number one thing but I’m instead of a 100% that way I’m like 95% that way. And the 5% is I will get on a plane and fly to San Francisco and go to two dead and company shows back toback and you find out that that is also rewarding. So it just is what it is. I love that. I’m glad you did that. I’m glad you said that cuz I I I get that feeling quite a bit too especially because you know 90% of the time that you have things planned you have some part of you some moment uh for you beforehand where you want to cancel and you want to just not go you want to just not do something that happens every time to every single thing it could be a tea time even it could be anything where you’re just like you know it’d be it’d be kind of nice if I just didn’t go to this so yeah to go all the way out there it looked awesome I saw you guys posted a bunch of stuff and you’re right, man. Just getting out there and doing stuff is like, it really is worth it. It really is more worth it than you think. And everybody in one place wanting to do the same thing. It was like 60,000 people in Golden Gate Park just wanting to see really great music. That that like can’t be undersold. Like I think that’s part of why people still go to movie theaters. It’s like a lot of the movies now, Happy Gilmore just went straight to Netflix and you can sit in your house and watch it and then when the movie’s over, you don’t have to go anywhere because you’re already home. But it’s still nice when you go to the movie theater and you you enjoy a communal experience with a bunch of people. I still think that’s I think that’s becoming more and more underrated as things get more accessible. So, if you ever have the opportunity to go to a big concert like that or anything like that, I think you should do it. Yeah. Like collective energy has a real big impact, you know, right? Like if you if you go see a comedy movie, which there aren’t that many anymore as we’ve talked about a lot on this show, in a movie theater, and everyone laughs at a scene, it’s different than if you watch that movie at home and you’re just like, “Huh, that was a funny part.” But when everybody’s laughing, you’re like, “Oh, these people find funny what I find funny.” And there’s something great in that. It’s a great point. That is a really good point. I feel that way even like if you’re um you know if we’re in the car and we’re on a road trip or something and someone sees a really funny Tik Tok video or it pulls up a really funny bar stool clip from the past and then you show it to the group and then when someone else laughs and it makes you laugh and you all start like laughing together, it has such a bigger impact than when you’re just alone. Way bigger. Way way bigger. So that I just wanted to recap that quickly because it was it was really really fun. Uh all right, moving on. Shout out to uh Ian Baker Finch. And this guy, this man was doing it for 30 years. I think 19 years at CBS uh at the Windham Championship this past weekend on Sunday. It was sort of the uh you know, the curtain, the final call for Ian Baker Finch. He’s just kind of moving on. Uh again, 30 years, a long time. Excellent playing career. And you can you could sort of sense during these things too the true like uh sincerity and gravity of this person based on a lot of the a lot of the stuff a lot of the colleagues all that and man the outpouring from everyone from Dy Pepper I saw Amanda Balionist Colton Nost obviously the folks up in the booth Jim Nance Trevor Emlman uh Frank Nabalo was up there and just how important it was for them to tell Ian Baker Finch how important he was to them. Uh I thought spoke, you know, volumes. And uh it’s, you know, I I kind of found myself a little bit tren like taking for granted the voices in the game of golf and realizing that like they’re just not all going to be around forever. and like those Sunday naps on the couch with golf on in the background and then just certain voices that you’ve relied on forever and now them, you know, just kind of not necessarily being there and Gary McCord, Ian Baker Finch. Yeah. you know, um it’s just it’s a it’s it’s a bit of a bummer, but it’s also like as I was kind of watching and and they’re all saying, you know, we really really are happy for you with this next chapter of your life, spending the time with your wife and your family and all that. It’s like to see someone, it’s almost like they go out on top a little bit of like, man, you’re still doing it. Your your voice still sounds great. Um, and then going out it was like almost kind of a beautiful thing, but it reminded me that like God, I take a little bit of the like the um almost the automatics when it comes to golf broadcasting and watching, but taking them for granted a little bit. I think we do that big time. I mean, if you’re if you’re the same age as me and you’re a golf fan, Ian Baker Finch has just been a part of every single broadcast you’ve ever watched in in in terms of that. So, it’s you just do you take for granted you think every time I watch a golf tournament, I’m just going to hear that voice and I’m going to hear those insights and that’s just how my life is going to be forever. And then, you know, at some point, yeah, he’s been doing it for 30 years, he’s like, that’s it. I’m I’m I’m not going to do this anymore. And yeah, it’s Yeah, it’s a little bittersweet. You want him to stick around as as long as he possibly can, but you also get what you’re saying where you don’t want to stay too long. you just, you know, you don’t want to have the end where people are like, “All right, let’s get this guy off of the microphone.” So, when you do it the way that he did it, you leave people wanting more. And that probably is the best way to do it. Yeah. Peter Kasus is another one, you know, where it’s like he’s and I know, you know, whether it was those that I feel like he and McCord there was a lot of chatter and they kind of came out and were like this dismissal, disrespectful, different kind of thing. Um, this I mean they hit Ian Baker Finch with the Green Day. I mean, they hit him with Green Day. I don’t know if you saw that in his like outgoing clip. They came first 30 seconds was was um was a little green day and got the waterworks going, you know, got the tissues out. Uh which is all time. I mean, that’s sort of the treatment that he deserves, I feel like. So, just a a nice salute to Ian Baker Finch who had a fantastic run. Um a quick Jim Nance quote. He said, “Whatever you think of Ian Baker Finch being in your home the last 30 years, and I know it’s a great feeling having him having him as a friend from far away. Whatever you thought he was like, it’s 10 times better. He’s one of the great people all of us at CBS will ever know.” So, I think Jim Nance saying that about you is a good old feather in the cap. It even got a tweet out of Tiger Woods. Called him Finchy. Finchy. Congrats, Finchy. That was so so tiger. He just loves Nobody loves nicknames more than Eldrich Tiger Woods Finchy. Do you think that So, do you think that tweet is a text from Tiger to a social media person that then packages into a tweet or do you think Tiger Woods says, “You know what? I’mma pull out my Twitter app right now. I’mma fire off a tweet here to Finchy.” I’m gonna say, man, that’s such a good question. It’s it’s the question we ask with all the professional like huge professional athletes with their Twitter accounts. Like do they run them, do they not? I think it’s it varies depending on who you’re talking about. I think Tiger has the Twitter app on his phone and tweets those things. I really do. Incredible. Do you? I like it. No. No, I don’t. I really don’t. I I I wish I did. I really do. I think I think Tiger has a burner account logged into his Twitter account. That would be my That would be my guess. Like I would just I would just venture that he likes to scroll Twitter, he doesn’t want to risk that like he likes something or tweets something or replies to something or views something even like even if you’re caught viewing something, you panic. You don’t really know especially if you’re talking woods like what what data gets back to people and what doesn’t. So my again he hasn’t had the greatest track record of being careful with stuff in general. So maybe you’re right, but my brain thinks that he’s now gotten to a point where they’ve sort of locked it down. That would be the smart thing to do. That would if if we’re talking about like we’re trying to protect Tiger, we probably shouldn’t give him Twitter. But I just think there’s got to be a part of him where he’s just like I can tweet. Like I’m a human. Like I got a brain. I got a phone. Just I’ll just tweet. You know that he tweets a lot of videos and a lot of stuff for Sunday Red and like those things he obviously does not do. But like love is in the air. You know, that was love that. But see, that makes me think they ran that by almost nobody. And they was just like, this is how I feel right now. And I don’t care what anybody thinks. It would be an interesting question. I I’d be very curious if we could at some point get to the bottom of whether or not Tiger runs his own Twitter account like when he says, “Congrats, Finchy.” Because I’m going to say that he does. Well, congrats, Finchy. Great run. Absolutely great run. Enjoy the uh the next chapter there, Finchy. [Music] There’s nothing quite like getting to a baseball game, especially last minute. Lucky for me, I always use Game Time, the official ticketing partner of Bartool Sports. It’s true. Going to the ballpark’s great. Trent on this very show mentions Game Time because you had an iconic weekend, Trent. I was going to say this is an easy one for me. Coming off the heels of Dent and Company shows in San Francisco, use Game Time, got our tickets, last minute deals. as the event approaches, the prices go way down. So, you got to keep an eye on it. Uh, but yeah, I make the pitch during the podcast and I’ll quickly make it again where just go do things because it’s it’s rewarding. 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And then to see him out there, whenever that moment was, was it Saturday where he just extended at one point the leaderboard was like he was like 20 under par and the next person was at like 11 under par and I thought, “Holy [ __ ] what is Cam Young doing out there?” Um, I I think, you know, I think he gets a little bit of a bad rap for just not being a particularly exciting player. That doesn’t make him a bad person. It doesn’t make him like hatable. But, uh, I saw a bunch of people I saw one tweet that made me laugh out loud that said, uh, said, you know, uh, for all those people out there that have been calling Cam Young boring, this clip of him winning the tournament will finally shut all those people up. And it was just him putting out and just walking across the green like he was moving on to a 19th hole of golf tournament. So, all that stuff made me laugh pretty good. But, uh, but yeah, Cam Young gets his first win. Congrats to Cam Young. Bomber. I think Frankie calls him Eeyore where he just sort of Yeah. hits the ball really far. He’s like, “All right, I guess I’ll walk to my ball and hit it again and just blow the field out.” This was one I was I was flying back from San Francisco, so I didn’t catch all of it. But it was also one of those where you’re watching social media and you’re just like everybody’s like, “This tournament’s over.” It was up by eight strokes, nine strokes at one point. You’re just like, “What a dominant win from Cam Young.” But this thing was over early. Yeah. Yep. I mean, he Yeah. He makes uh you know Scotty Shuffler look like like Lee Trevino out there when it comes to just enter I mean he just he’s got he’s just doesn’t have the entertainment factor out there. So a little bit of a uh just in terms of of uh hype factor and getting the juices going. Uh wasn’t really necessarily going to bring it for my great friends at the Windham Championship, but uh there were some notable names to miss out on the FedEx Cup playoffs. Max Homa, Adam Scott, Tom Kim was a name that sort of popped up uh that I was very surprised by because Tom Kim, you know, as recently as last year in the President’s Cup, he’s been electric in the last two President’s Cups, uh it was just a little over a year ago when he and Scotty were going toe-to-toe on the back nine of the Travelers Championship and and you’re thinking Tom Kim is kind of the next guy, you know, he like does he never been to a party before. He’s like 20 years old. He’s just buddies with Scotty and winning golf tournaments and hitting shots. And then to see that he had, you know, I don’t know. I guess I thought I I I saw Tom Kim had a very under the radar poor year that I didn’t really pay attention to until I saw that he missed he’s not going to be in the playoffs. Yeah. I mean, there was a stretch last year when, you know, he would win those tournaments and then they would bring up the graphic like the only person to win this many tournaments at this age, it was Tom Kim and Tiger Woods. So that’s the sort of start to a career that we were talking about and he had the President’s Cup and he’s got the back and forth with Scotty. So just felt like there was a lot of momentum with Tom Kim and his career and oh man, this is a guy he’s going to be a staple on our TVs for the next 15 years. And then to hear that he missed the playoffs, you’re just kind of like, “Oh, he must have had a really bad year.” Yep. I I agree. I was very surprised by that. Couple other ones. Joel Damon, um a bummer. He had a pretty damn good tournament, too. He was making a little bit of a run there and playing pretty good golf, but you know, Joel going through a little bit of a transformative year. Of course, he and Gino um broke up. You know, he’s got a new guy on the bag, misses out on the playoffs, and it’s just a reminder, man, it’s an absolute struggle out there. It’s a it’s a pure grind no matter who you are. I feel too like I know Joel handles it well. Everybody loves him. He’s had some tearful moments on full swing. He’s had some triumphant moments on that show and I’m sure he’ll have more from the next season. Joel is one of my favorite people uh in professional golf. We all of ours I love that man to death. He’s given us more than the time a day from a professional standpoint, from a personal standpoint hanging with him. Um I can’t even imagine the years of stress because for the most part Joel has kind of been in this position every year out there. you know, it’s like, yes, he’s right on that like bubble every year between keeping his tour card and not and uh and that is just like we actually talk about this coming up in the interview with Chris Goddup. That is just not a good place to be living out there. He’s also in the fortunate and unfortunate position of being really famous. Like there’s there’s certainly guys out there like him who are just kind of always like, “Ah, I’m in. I’m out. I’m in. I’m out. I’m having a good year. I’m having a bad year.” But they fly completely under the radar and nobody hears about him and nobody talks about him. But Joel, who is a great guy and that was shown in full swing and people love him for it, people know who he is. So when he when he’s going through these things, it just garers more conversation than if a guy without his fame were going through the same thing. And that adds a level of stress that I honestly can’t even imagine and it’s got to drive him insane. Do you think Joel Damon is a top 10 most starred or favored player on the PGA Tour app? I think yes. I think yes, too. I think yes, too. And the fact the very fact that he makes it interesting seemingly every year brings more eyeballs to it. So, it like makes you want to follow it. It’d be one thing if he were just like, “All right, he hit this groove and now he’s just on it every single year. He’s in the playoffs. He’s contending every single, you know, every couple tournaments every year, but it’s just like it’s such a roller coaster that it makes you want to pay attention even more.” Yep. I I agree with that. I uh Yeah, I was bummed to see that. Love Joel Damon, so um you know, always rooting for the best for him, but heading into the playoffs, there’ll be no Saul hit the Gala either. I think that one was a little bit more on the radar throughout the year. I kind of saw that he just wasn’t playing his best, which is a bummer. He was like, he is one of my favorites in the upandcomers. He’s just a fan favorite. He’s got so much charisma, so much authenticity u with his with his dad out there and his family rooting for him and just how open and honest he is and and full swing obviously made him kind of one of the more famous guys out there as well. So, uh rooting for all those guys to get back into it and uh and hopefully have a great fall, get cooking, get cranking for 2026. Um uh the last thing that I’m going to say and then we can throw it to um I do want to throw it to a little from the gallery and then I want to get to God up because again he was a great great interview. Uh I did have a little bit of Wi-Fi issues for the Chris God. I’ll say the first 10 minutes or so. Uh yours truly was just not there and then I was switching to a different Wi-Fi while I was out in Washington and then it mostly worked with a few interruptions. I imagine that’s cleaned up and posted. It’s not a huge issue that you guys will notice, but I did have some technical issues, so just be prepared for that. Um, I mean, you are you are and have been. You’re in the middle of nowhere for a while now. Yeah, I’ve moved to Cordelane now, which I’ve learned is civilization here in Idaho. I I got here Saturday. This place is off the charts. I didn’t even know this really existed. And I don’t know that they want people to know it exists, but like this is where apparently this is where like the Kardashians and like Bieber and them come to this Celane area and it is off the charts. Trent, this place that I’m at, this is with the floating green, but like I I Celane, Idaho is unbelievably beautiful. The second I got here, you just get I don’t know. You get like 40% healthier and happier the second that you walk around here. This this hotel I’m at has I think the longest floating boardwalk in the United States of America, it said. And it’s got this really cool boardwalk all the way around the marina that’s on this fantastic lake in Idaho. It’s got a couple restaurants and bars on it. Bunch of really nice boats in the slips. And then you look out, you know, to your right if you’re walking along this boardwalk and there’s people like parasailing behind boats and it’s like it’s insane this place. Wow. And you might like run into Chris Jenner at the breakfast bar. It sounds like, dude, they’re saying like everybody here saying, “Oh yeah, we see like celebrities cruising around all the time. This restaurant here, the Beverly or Beverly’s that’s out the resort course, uh the resort hotel that we’re at, it’s on like the seventh floor and I guess you see a bunch of names in there.” show. Still kind of getting the lay of the land here in Celane. I’ve been here for like a day and a half, but um we did play uh the Cordelane Resort Golf Course yesterday for the first time and it is awesome. Dude, you take a you take like a 10-minute boat ride from the resort to the golf course is how you get there and they have you you take your clubs down to valet. So valet take your clubs on like a shuttle and then you just walk onto this boat. You get on the boat. We had Captain Sebastian. It’s like one of those really cool I was calling it like a Kennedy like vineyard type boat, you know? It’s like almost that wooden like oh all class all class out of this thing with like an American flag on the back of it. Small classy American flag and it takes you right to this dock and then a caddy greets you at the dock and walks you up into the clubhouse. Our guy Taylor who kind of runs the golf operation here greets you. that we’re walking all through cuz we got Barcelic coming here on Tuesday. But walks you through and then like I mean the first thing you see is the island green out there and it is stunning. It’s quite the operation. We’re talking with him. He was like yeah there’s no he I think he said there’s no um like ah floating green for dummies book. So he’s like when we decided like when we decided to build this like you just got to learn and figure it all out yourself on how to do it. So, in terms of like mowing it each day, like they had to figure out how to get mowers out there, it’s got its own irrigation system because the chemicals that are required to like maintain a golf green in a golf course can’t just wash into the lake. So, it has to have its own irrigation system so that it contains all of that. He was saying that as you play golf and people hit shots like the um the soil gets like hit off of the floating green. Yeah. And so it like loses soil over years and years and years and like lowers. So they had to like raise it like last year and that was quite the operation. I mean the whole thing is off the charts. But I will say their their entire like ethos of golf they just nailed it. They were like no no we built this place to be friendly to be fun to be just like a very fun enjoyable experience. We did not build it to be overly like difficult, which I think they were kind of wrong about and found it pretty difficult at a lot of different moments with a lot of tree line and stuff. But they were like I guess the owner, one of the quotes he said is like the owner was basically like, “Oh, like you’re telling me 96% of people, you know, are not scratch golfers or better. Why would we build a golf course for the 4%. Let’s build a golf course for the 96% and let’s make sure they just have as much fun as humanly possible.” And dude, you roll up to it is um it is like, you know, 17 at Sawrass or like the first time I played Bay Hill, like the 18th hole at Bay Hill, I remember it so clearly seeing it because like Tiger Woods had made so many putts there. It like gives you the chills as you approach it cuz you’re about to hit this shot that you know is so iconic. Um and yesterday was no joke, dude. We’re playing the It’s only like 6,500 yards from the back TE’s. So we were playing the back TE’s because that’s what we’re going to have people play in the Barcel, dude. Dude, it was 169 into a stiff wind like straight off the left and into. So our boy, our caddyy Dave was like, “Yeah, it’s at least like a 180 shot.” And you’re like, “No, no, that’s like an island out there. What do What do you mean it’s a 180 shot?” So I five iron into that goddamn green. Um, but we had a huge moment with the group. Um, we had Ryan, uh, Chris, Maddie, who are from the, uh, agency, the crew that, uh, sets up all the signage and all the gear for the Bartool Classic. picked the the the truly the four of us played. All four of us were dry after our T-shots in that hole which no way was an absolute miracle. Um so it was it was a super fun experience and then if you catch it in time you take the boat back. But absolutely stunning place around here. I’ll post a bunch of pictures took a couple videos yesterday. People will see it. But um but yeah this quarter lane place is off the charts right because yeah 180 like if you play 17 in Sawrass it’s like a 145 shot. You you can you got that, dude. 180 to an island is a nightmare, dude. We had to a bunch there was like maybe a bachelor party or something. There’s like the back terrace of the clubhouse is awesome and it’s perched up with a bunch of like umbrellas and tables and bar tops and people are having drinks and hooting and hollering about every swing. So, there was a bachelor party of guys like reacting to everybody’s shot and your boy went last and the first three guys hit the green. And so I’m standing up there and you’re like, I got a five iron in my hands. How often do I hit a green with a five iron? Like what do you think your GI percentage is when you’re holding a five iron? 7%. Yeah, totally. So I’m like I gota I mean I could you could chunk it, you could wipe one a little right, you could pull one a little left, anywhere and you’re in the lake. So um very cool. And then you go over and they have they call it the putter the putter boat and the putterbo Trent has a bunch of like snacks in it. It’s got like chocolate in it. Now, it’s got Oh, yeah. It’s got uh a young lady that like mans the boat and you you jump into this putter boat. She takes you out to the green. You go out there. Uh usually the next group hits up too while you’re doing all that because it takes a little bit of time. Then you go up there, you finish out real quick, take a bunch of pictures, you get back in the uh the putter boat, and then you play the last four holes or so. So, it is quite the experience here. So, Barcel Classic participants are going to be doing that when this podcast is out. They will be doing it when the podcast comes out. That’s so cool. Like I didn’t know logistically how that was going to work. Like it just seems like a [ __ ] show, but it sounds like they they got it all figured out. They They do, man. They got it. They got it figured out. They’re the best here. And yeah, I can’t wait for people to see all the footage when this comes out from the classic. We’re going to do, by the way, I made a little switch up. We’re going to do the the uh walkup song MCing will be on the floating green hole. Genius. Good move. Yeah. really smart. Yeah, I will not be on that first tea all day. I’ll be on that 14th tea all day and we’ll just be hounding people as they cruise up to their walk up song of choice and try to find that green, that floating green out there. So, very excited, but pumped to be here. The Pacific Northwest is off the charts. Um, it’s a really, really, really beautiful place. Been up here since, god, Tren, I’ve been up here for like a week and a half, I think, at this point. And I just love it up here. It really is. It’s a breath of fresh air. Idaho. Never been to Idaho before. It’s my first time in Idaho. And dude, the whole town, Trent, it’s like um it’s like a really nice college town is kind of what it feels like. It’s like not or like a ski village, you know what I mean? Like that’s kind of the feel that it has, but it’s this summery. They had like when I pulled in Saturday um they had almost like a festival going on with um a couple of the main roads were shut down with just food trucks lining the road and then that road takes you you walk right down that road onto this boardwalk and onto the lake. There’s like a beach right there. There’s like jet skis all over the place. People are tubing out on the water. It’s just it’s a fantasy out here. They definitely don’t want people to know about this place. I don’t think they do either. I don’t think Kardashians are gonna like be like, “Cut that from the podcast.” Like that’s our that’s where we go just to hang place. I love the Kardashians. I love the Kardashians. So that’s, you know, I don’t um All right. All right. Last thing we got, we got to do a little um we’re going to do a little from the gallery brought to you by our great friends at Truly. Truly unruly lemonade. It combines the high alk fun of truly unruly with everyone’s favorite, which is lemonade. Lemonade let loose. 8% ABV, 100% delicious, four supercharged lemonade flavors. We got bump and blue Raz OG original lemonade, punched up pineapple, wild pink. Uh it’s the official hard seltzer of foreplay. Had quite a few of those last week at Gamble Sands. Going to have some when this podcast comes out at Cordelane. Level up your lemonade with Truly Unruly. Find truly unruly lemonade at a store near you or visit trulyhardseltzer.com. Um the voicemail line is 6466854717. That is 6466854717. Let’s do a little uh from the gallery. Hey guys, it’s Dan from Ottawa, Canada. Uh I’m just kind of curious to know how the Foreplay podcast was first kind of conceived and came to fruition, how that all started. Uh and then I’m also kind of curious to know what your first impressions were of uh of each other. and uh big fan of the show. So, thanks for everything. Wow. Wow. Wow. I was right. You know what, Trent? Do you remember doing that test podcast with Ashley Mayo? I do remember doing that. Yes, we did that in the old New York office. Yep. And we never put that one out. So, to I I I know I’ve seen Ashley a couple time a handful of times since then. She always laughs at like, “You never really put my episode out, did you?” We uh you know it was like 2016 and everybody everybody was basically starting a podcast or it was like podcasts need to be started and at the time you know like Kevin and KFC radio in terms of the bar stool universe were you know up till like early 2016 were like the only people doing podcasting and I remember Dave like didn’t really put any you know thought Kevin still laughs about this but like didn’t really put any any thought into it, any love behind podcasting, whatever. And then in like early 2016, Churnon came along. Yep. And it was like, oh, podcasting is real. And pardon my take launched. And I remember Coley Mick, like they were trying to get Mixtape going as like an NBA podcast. And me and Trent at the time were the only two content folks, writers, whatever that liked golf. And I remember we kind of we didn’t really know each other. We worked at the same company. And there’s like a I don’t know there’s sort of like a a like fraternity type feel of like once you got hired at Barto at that time with how small it was of like oh you’re like my buddy now cuz we work at Barstol together. For sure. So it was like oh you like golf I like golf. Should we like start a golf podcast? Yeah. And I remember I was still living in Iowa when we did before we did the Ashley Mayo podcast. You and I just did a podcast where we just like chopped it up about golf. like we I think either I DM’d you or you DM’d me cuz we both liked golf and you’re right podcasts were just start of certainly in the Barcel universe like all right now we want a bunch of podcasts and we both like golf so we got in contact somehow because I wasn’t in the New York office yet you were moving to New York and you were like do you want to try to do a golf podcast and we did a test episode with that did pretty like we we thought it went really really well and then I eventually moved to New York And yeah, then we did the Ashley Mail podcast that never saw the light of day. And I think we sent that one to Dave because he was like, “Do a test podcast with a guest and I’ll listen to it and then I’ll decide what I want to do.” I don’t think he ever actually ended up listening to that podcast, but I remember sitting in the office just where everybody was. All the desks were in in the same area. And I remember him coming up to us and I think Coley was near us in that at that point, too. And he was like, “All right, I’m going to greenlight mixtape and I’m going to greenlight Foreplay.” And that was it was really that casual where he’s like, “All right, you know, make of it what you can. I still want you blogging all the time, all day. So that’s still your main job, but if you guys want to try this podcast thing, you guys have the green light to try it.” And I remember I lived with Coley at the time in Brooklyn. And we went home that night and we’re like, “Hey man, we both got podcast now under, you know, at under the Barcel umbrella and just kind of went from there. We, you know, we were would record late at night. I think it was once or twice a week and we didn’t I mean we knew what we had an idea of what we wanted to do. We wanted to have a golf podcast. We wanted to talk a little bit about the PJ tour but we really wanted it to be like this is what it’s like regular guys who have a golf podcast who golf who have buddies that golf and sort of we wanted to get in that world pretty heavy. So and then it just sort of ev everything evolved and we just kept doing it. We kept doing it. video started happening. But yeah, it was it was very I remember being very casual the way Dave Green lit it where he was just like, “Yeah, you guys can try it if you want.” I remember that too. I remember that exact moment for whatever reason. I have that like screenshot if it were a video in my head of like us all standing in that little content desk area when he came over and we all kind of looked at each other like, “Oh, okay. I think that’s a good thing.” And I, you know, I would say we’re very lucky in that at the time there really wasn’t anything like it. Like I think there are probably a million golf podcasts now and there’s a lot of good ones and there’s a lot of people that have a lot of production behind it whether they focus on equipment or uh current events or professional golf or course architecture or whatever it might be. There really was it was like the no laying up crew and which is I think much more like niche especially at the time than what we were doing. And then I think like Shackleford and this house guy had like something going but it didn’t have a ton of like I don’t know traction whatever. So we were like I think there might be a little market here. And then I remember it got pretty quickly. I remember like the business team which we had never spoken to before at the time coming to us being no zero reason to being like oh no this is this is going well. You guys need to like keep going with this. And we were like okay. And then I believe it was the Masters 2017 when we did the Frankie episode when he came back from his Sunday at um Augusta when he had basically taken like one of the badges that that Dave had gotten through when we had the uh the uh Natty Shack. We were doing a little thing with Natural Light at the Midas where we took that over and that Sunday you and I were doing like a couple live shows. I think we were doing like a preview show and then a postgame show. So, we couldn’t go in and necessarily watch the tournament. But Frankie could um because Dave was like, “Yeah, I’m heading out. You could take this, whatever.” And Frankie went in and had an alltime day. We were like, as soon as he got off the course, we’re like, “We need you to come do this podcast and do an entire like just tell us about your day.” And that was one of the first times Frankie was fully like introduced to doing the foreplay world. And then Frankie fashion just absolutely nailed it. was like the most giddy, you know, like passionate person, animated person in history about the Sunday that he had. He was basically Forest Gump of that Sunday. He saw like everything in the history of that tournament and came in. I remember Dave even tweeted, he’s like, “If there’s one thing you needed us to do about the Masters, it is this hilarious recap from Frankie about the Masters.” I also remember one of the biggest risks we ever took, which we were just stupid. it wasn’t like a calculated thing was the Super Bowl used to be a really big deal at Bar School and it it still is. They still go there and but like back when we first all moved to New York, you everything would shut down like the people who needed to be at the Super Bowl would go and they would do live shows and they would do the rundown and the the whole company focus would be like everybody pushed towards whatever’s happening at the Super Bowl. I I don’t care about the whatever podcast you’re trying to do, even the blogs, like just focus everything on the Super Bowl. And for whatever reason, we put together a foreplay podcast teaser of content that we had done, you know, just before like we were officially like golf content creators and we made this awesome teaser and we put it out Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday, the week of the Super Bowl. And it was and it it did really really well. But like the fact that we were like, “Hey, no, don’t worry about what’s going on with the big company stuff at the Super Bowl. We’re we’re starting this little stupid golf podcast.” The teaser did really well and I think that helped us, but I thought they were I I mean, there was a chance that Dave was just like, “You guys are done. You guys [ __ ] that up. All the focus needs to be on the Super Bowl, not on this little podcast that you’re trying to make.” So that was the hell was wrong with us, man. Just Yep. Yep. Just the worst launch time you could possibly have. But somehow somehow we got to this point and I remember I think it was 2019 or so when Frankie was kind of caught in between Dave’s world and our world and you know I remember that’s tough cuz he was he’s talked about it quite a bit but I mean Frankie was Dave’s like professional life. He was basically his like personal videographer. He was like his social media poster. He was his like secretary. He was like everything to Dave’s life. And for him to also be dipping into kind of our world and becoming a huge part of foreplay and the brand and all the different series and everything was like he was being ripped in two different parts and trying to get that like separation. And credit to Dave, I remember Frankie finally had that like candid conversation and Dave was like, “Oh no, from a professional standpoint, if I were you, I would like go be as big in that as you could possibly be, right? We just need to figure out my [ __ ] first.” Which took a little bit of a while. But then you know COVID hit co not to give the entire history but COVID was bad for a lot of reasons but in terms of like our brand and growth and people weren’t watching live sports there weren’t any people weren’t going to concerts there weren’t any they weren’t watching live TV there wasn’t any it was like internet basically internet entertainment social media putting out videos clips whatever it could possibly be kind of vaulted us yet again and launched us realizing like YouTube was much bigger longer form videos would work social videos of us playing golf would work and now it’s been five years and and here we are. We got Beef, by the way. Beef is such a superstar. People just love that, man. Um he’s one of my favorite people. Like I you never know what you’re going to get because we the hiring process at Bar Stool largely is like Dave sees something he likes and he’s like we’re going to hire that guy. And we liked Beef. We had sent Beef over to Dave. I think originally it was as like a potential participant in the Internet Invitational maybe. Yeah. I don’t remember exactly what it was, but we sent uh I was at lunch with Frankie and we sent beef to Dave and Dave was like, “Let’s hire this guy.” And you don’t know what you’re going to get because you’ve never met the guy. He seems like a nice enough guy on on social media. But then we hired him and we’ve traveled with him a bunch and he’s in the meetings now, like the business meetings with us and he’s just the best nicest guy. Also knows a [ __ ] ton about the industry. And I I guess I maybe should have known that just coming from his background, but he is so valuable and so insightful, especially in merch meetings and just like where is the golf industry going? What is the golf industry like? What doesn’t it like? I I couldn’t I I I [ __ ] love Beef. I And he’s just a really nice, easy guy to travel with. And with this job, that is a big part of it. Like if you are somebody who can travel with us and you’re cool and you like going to dinners and you just want to hang out and play golf like being able to fit in in that way was just like he’s been an A+ across the board for us. Dude, this guy Taylor 4 here who again is a guy I met over at the Celane course. Um and he was like beef was like my inspiration to get into the career kind of that I have. And I was like what? And he was like, “Yeah, like two years in a row before he was part of your guys Operation All when he was like a student getting into golf and he was working at this course.” And he’s like, “I had met him like a couple years in a row.” And he was like, he took his hat off, introduced himself and backto-back years where he’s like, I would chat with him. He was the nicest guy. We would talk about the golf industry. He remembered where I was from and what I was kind of doing. And he was like, “That guy, I remember looking and being like, that guy is what being like a golf professional is like a PGA golf professional is all about.” I was like, “Yeah, dude. When we went to when we we’re giving a lot of history now. We’re giving new history. But when we went to Thornberry Creek for the Bar School Classic where Beef worked before he jumped on board with us, um I just was talking to people around like who work at the golf course and you know, just like everybody. I was talking to everybody and they’re like Beef changed this place. Like he turned it around. like this place was like kind of like a middling like uh it’s an okay spot and then when beef got there and took over in two years they said he just completely changed the entire course of the golf course and has made it a complete success. So you know it’s a glazing beef session right now but like he deserves it because he has been he’s been incredible for us. He is I love beef. I love beef. He’s the man. We got to get him back on the show again soon too by the way. I haven’t heard from him in a while but um but yeah that’s a little bit of the brief history. So what was what was our guy’s name again there? Do you remember Ryan? Do you remember his name? Um Dan from Canada. Shout out to Dan. Oh, from Ottawa. Shout out to Dan. Ottawa. Dan from Ottawa. We appreciate that call. Big thanks to uh Truly once again, the Truly Unruly Lemonades from the Gallery. 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So, um we talk about all of that and uh and a lot a lot more. We get into pretty nerdy golf stuff, too. Like I said, it’s like an hour. His actually his iPad dies during this starts dying because we talked to him for so long and he was just laying on his couch just chopping it up with us. So, um, if you don’t have anything else, Trent, we could throw it to Chris Godro. Let’s do it. Let’s do it. We’ll be back Thursday for our second show of the week. Uh, hit it hard. Hit it hard. [Music] All right. We are now joined on the Foreplay Podcast by Chris Goddarup, New Jerseyy’s own. I would actually say Lurch’s own. I don’t know if we want to get into the history of Chris Goddup and our old pal Lurch. U, welcome to the show, dude. It’s really exciting to have you here. Um what a ride you’ve been on. So excited to get into, you know, this kind of rise that you’ve been on and uh and how everything’s been going. Yeah. Thanks for having me on. And uh yeah, I’ll let I I’ll let Large Large claim me. So you guys you guys grew up in the same town. Yeah. So he’s from um he’s from Fair Haven, which is like I mean it’s I could walk to Fair Haven from my from my town. So um yeah. Yeah. And he kind of grew up, you know, in town and playing tennis and loud voice. You just hear him from Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And then he he’s really good friends with my dad’s friend, uh, this guy Chuck. Um, so I met them through him and, uh, yeah, we’ve been we’ve been friends since. To Lurch’s credit, we would get these text messages from him being like, I’m playing golf with this kid. He’s out of control. Playing for Ruckers. like this guy has it, man. Like I’m telling you right now, like this guy, he’s going to be the next big thing. And we’re like, “All right, Lurch, like bring him on the show or like get him in a video or something.” Like we enough with this Godup kid. Like it became a joke in our in our group chat being like, “Who is this guy?” And now all of a sudden like I’m wearing a Ryder Cup hat. I’m putting you on our way too early Rder Cup list. It’s like the snap of a finger you just come bursting onto the scene. So, it’s been fun for us to see that cuz we’ve heard of you for so long thanks to Benjamin Severance, but uh um I I do want to get into that. You started at Rutgers. What was it like playing there? Um because obviously not a big-time school. Um it has its history, right? Like it it’s it’s a great um sports school, but not necessarily one that you would pick for golf. How was that start at Ruckers and like what made why did you make the switch? Um I I loved it. Um it was it was perfect for me like you know on a broader picture at the moment like I always said like through my journey that I wanted to go somewhere where I was going to play and I was going to get better and going to play against good players. Um and when I was getting recruited they just joined the Big 10. So that was like all right you know that’s big time conference. uh maybe not, you know, people don’t think about it for golf, but I mean there are some a lot of good players on tour that have come out of the Big 10 and it was in state. I really liked that. It was a great offer for me and uh I really didn’t have much else. I didn’t like playing the AJ stuff as a kid. I didn’t like traveling to go play junior golf. Um I didn’t see the see the value in it. Um, and then yeah, I just I wanted to stay home and and play in New Jersey. And um, it was a great place. I I I loved it. And I still I still die on the die on the hill of Rucker sports. And um, hopefully uh, hopefully they can turn that around for my well-being. Some Eric Lrand whiskey. I know they’re always pumping that with Ruckers. And my guy Brian Axer, gotta give him a shout out. He’s been pumping that. And uh, I actually have a couple bottles downstairs. It’s so good. Um, yeah. No, so like growing up in Jersey, you said you didn’t like to play in like the AJA events. Like what was your upbringing with golf? Were you playing multiple sports? Were you Did was golf the only thing in your life growing up or was it just something that like, you know, you struck struck gold with like as you got older, but it wasn’t necessarily the path the whole time? Yeah. I I never like as a kid we I played golf ever since I was, you know, four or five, but it was never my like dream dream to be like a PJ tour player. Like I just liked golf cuz it was fun. Uh my dad played, we’d go play, but I played lacrosse and I played other stuff as a kid kid, but like I played lacrosse up until high school and I really liked it, but it was the same season as golf. So, I just I was like, I’m just going to pick golf cuz I was probably better at golf than I was lacrosse. Um, but yeah, it was just kind of one of those things that like, you know, I never really took it like I mean, I took it serious, but two, there’s levels of serious, I would say. But once I got to college and like a year or two into college, I was like, “Okay, I need to like, you know, really focus in here cuz I think I might have something.” And I bet my parents would probably say that they thought I had something maybe earlier, but I didn’t really like maybe care enough to to like these kids now, they’re 15, 16, traveling all over the world to play junior golf and I was like I didn’t want to leave New Jersey and play and I just wanted to hang it hang around and and kind of just play for fun. What was the moment that you realized, all right, I got to go after this? Like transfer Oklahoma, like this is like, all right, I’m going for this. Like, I’m going for broke. This is it. This is my path. I have no other backup. I’m going to be a professional golfer. I’m going for it 100%. It was probably when I was switching schools. Um, I just been an all-American at Ruckers and I just came off surgery um with my hand during COVID and I was like, “All right, you know, I have one last shot at this kind of thing.” Not that one last shot, but like I wasn’t going to turn pro after records. I was not ready at all. Um, and then I was like, I’m going somewhere far away from home. Totally different environment. Like, I want to switch it up completely. And this was going to be my like, all right, can I do this for real? Um, and then, you know, obviously once I was in Oklahoma, it was a it was kind of, you know, catapulted me a little bit. Yeah. Rigy joining us from Washington State with the uh the worst Wi-Fi I think that anyone’s ever I’m trying so hard to like It’s almost like I feel like I have to sit still so that my connection stays okay for a second. You know what I’m saying? Say so. The the pixels moving will like make your Wi-Fi worse. Oh boy. I So, dude, I could fly on an airplane and they got Starlink and I have unbelievable Wi-Fi and every time I come to this place, they just have no Wi-Fi. It drives me crazy. But hey, Chris Godro, it’s great to see you. What’s up? I can kind of see you. All right, we’re gonna Can you hear me at least? Can I like heard clearly? All right. All right. I know Frankie’s obviously covering some stuff, but dude, we’ve just been it’s been so fun to watch you as like the American guy overseas just representing and dominating for us. And I can’t even imagine what it was like inside that environment over there. Like for me, like watching like a Chris God and like seeing like the American, you know, it feels like you’re like a big ballpark kind of player. I don’t know if that’s just like your build or like your swagger out there or like the outfits, you know, like you got the Nike, the way that you’re walking around. It’s very much like this guy’s going to go to like a big American ballpark and absolutely dominate there. And then you go to the to the Genesis and you’re playing Lynx Golf and you’re hitting these shots, these touch shots and you’ve got all these these creative uh you know shots in your bag. To me that was like a little bit surprising. So like what about that type of golf do you feel comfortable with? Because I didn’t picture you really meshing well with that type of golf and all of a sudden like you do that you play well at the open. Um, what about that golf do you feel comfortable with? I I don’t know. I I like the idea that like any shot you have, you can hit six shots to get it close. You have you have to hit good ones, but you always have like options where I feel like, you know, on tour and and you know, let’s say like 3M, you have a back left pin, you have to hit it like a, you know, a draw that lands 2 feet from the pin and to keep it close where like, you know, in lengths, you can hit it 40 yards short and hit it to three feet and also fly it maybe, you know, right next to the pin. So, I think it was just the the options you have opened my brain up a little bit to like creativity and and what I was able to do on the on the golf course. So, final round, you’re going into it, you know, pretty big name out there. You’re playing with Rory. Uh, you know, first TE range situation before you get going with that. How was it? You guys chatting at all? Are you kind of like feeling each other out? Had you really met him before, talked to him much? I hadn’t talked to him really ever beforehand. We didn’t talk on the range or anything, but um once we got going, we we were chatting and we were talking about um you know, Florida and stuff and I know he’s down there and I was asking about courses and whatnot and we were just kind of chatting and then once it kind of turned to like 12, 13, like the crowd started getting very uh hostile once they kind of realized like this is happening. Um and and then he I will say like to Royy’s credit he was very um like aware of what was happening I would say. And he was like he had a security guy telling pe like telling people to like cut it out and and which was cool cuz I mean he’s trying to win the tournament too, but he’s also aware of what’s going on. And I can’t like I know it’s extra crazy over there with him and especially coming off a grand slam, but like it always amazes me that those guys play so good week in week out with all that going on. Yeah, that’s one of the amazing things we always say about Tiger Woods. no matter what tournament he ever played in, it was like the final round of a major. He could show up to the 3M on a Thursday and the place is absolutely packed. And it actually he started to use it to his advantage, right? Cuz like you get a guy like you that is is paired up with him for the first time and you’re like, “Oh, I’m not used to this right now.” Not and you don’t know how you’ll react to it. Luckily for you, you kind of took it in stride and with that that kind of mentality of like I’m just going to put my head down and kind of be like, you know, an away game win had to be a pretty cool feeling to be able to like accomplish that. Yeah, for sure. It was um It was very cool. It was, you know, someone asked me why I got like so like emotional after, but like I think it was just so much of like all day I was focusing on like I’m not letting this get to me. like like and then once I was like I’m you know that I’m going to win this and then like once it was over I think my brain like could finally stop working and it was just like I’m so happy this is over because it took every ounce of energy in me to like keep my head in it and um yeah it’s just it like I said it was just cra like the whole thing was crazy and um but definitely a huge like notch in the belt that you can like go up there and stand toe to toe with with him in uh in you know foreign foreign soil. Dude, absolutely. We’ve heard from other athletes in other sports, they say that going on the road into hostile environments makes them better players and they actually look forward to it. Like a hockey team will like look forward to a long road trip where they know they’re playing against rivals because it just brings them together. Like you and your caddy, your whole team are probably like it’s us against the world. Literally like we are on international soil. It is US versus the world. We’re playing Rory Macroy. If if this can’t get us going, nothing can. Like it just it starts that engine for you for sure. And you know like you know going into the day that you have to like not even Rory but you have you know like I was playing with Windom as well but then you have Fitzpatrick and Scotty and all these guys behind you know like someone’s going to play good. Odds are you know more than one is going to play good. So like you know going into the day your group alone and everyone else you have to play good. Was there any moment you thought anybody went like too far in the crowd where anybody or Rory had to be like whoa whoa whoa? Uh yeah, there were a couple like I mean not too like too far for you know your average crab, but not like it didn’t bother me in the there were a couple guys that were yelling like you’re going to three putt and like you know watch out for the pop bunkers and stuff. And then there was one on 18. This kid yelled like you know I hope you choke so Rory can win or whatever. And then Rory told him to shut up, which was we were laughing about it walking down 18 because it was just like no matter where you go, we were laughing about like the fact that no matter where you go in the world, there’s always idiots yelling in the crowd. It didn’t matter. It didn’t matter where where you were. But it was funny. I I But going into the day, I totally expected like that. Yeah, you have to, right? Like like you said, it’s such a hostile environment. You’re over there. Rory’s like going to be the guy. And yeah, man. kudos to you for being able to just like withstand that and and it definitely unlocks something in your brain now because then you saw the way that you play at the open and just like you’re just this mainstay name now. So, you know, that that’s these are those moments in a guy’s career that like they need to be able to prove it to themselves and once you get that done, it’s like the stuff it does for your confidence, I’m assuming, is like light years beyond anything you can learn. You can talk to any mental coach in the world. you can do any lesson like once you’re thrown into the fire, however you’re forged out of that, that’s what’s going to really build your career. And you know, win at the Genesis and like you said, like I said, being able to build off that like this is just uh smooth sailing now in terms of like the mental fortitude building right now. Yeah, like you said, it’s really like you could talk to as many people as you want and and you can be mentally prepared for what you think is going to happen and then nothing you think is going to happen happens and you just have to be ready for for that. And um I don’t know. I felt like I felt like it’s funny my whole year I I felt like I’d played, you know, solid but really didn’t get anything out of it. And not that I let the moment get to me. just it just didn’t work work out in some of these tournaments and I was like I just really like I’m doing something right. I just got to hang in there and it’ll and it’ll come and um and yeah, it just happened to be that week. But yeah, like you said, it’s just once you kind of get the feeling and and you can, you know, not back down and hit certain shots in that moment, you’re like, “All right, I got something here.” Like I can I can hit these shots under, you know, the gun. And um I think that’s where you get the most confidence from is not it’s not like oh I won great. It’s like I hit a five iron in off the left wind and like stuffed it. You know like I could have easily hit that shot 40 yards or 40 feet right you know two putt and then but like I I sat up there and hit a good one. So it’s stuff like that where you just like all right you know I got I got something. Yeah. You know it’s in there. Dude, we saw you at the MV5 Invitational on the cornfairy tour when we did our little bar stool golf broadcast. Um, obviously you were on the cornfairy tour playing those events. Like what has been and aside from the money, like obviously the money starts to come as you win, but like what’s been the biggest change for you going from that lifestyle to now just like thrown right into like big time PGA Tour? Like winning PJ Tour events now? Like you’re in all of them. You’re a mainstay name now. like what’s been the biggest change in your life that you’ve seen or maybe something that you’ve like didn’t expect would be different between the grind and then now the PGA tour life. Honestly, you know, I don’t think there’s been much change in my my life um other than just playing the tour other than Cornfair. Like I’ve got it pretty good. Um, and I’ve had it, you know, I’m lucky. I’ve had it. Even on Cornfair, I had a pretty good pretty good uh pretty good run. And um I I would say the biggest change, especially in the last three weeks, has been like the amount of people that know who I am and watch like at tournaments and care about my golf rather than, you know, just my family and friends at home. Um, which is fun. I mean, that’s that’s the fun of winning. And yeah, at 3M I noticed it for sure cuz obviously overseas you’d coming off a win and and you’re not too far from Scotland at the open and um but yeah, here like back at 3M, you know, we were a feature group every day and um there’s just people out there that were were there to, you know, obviously I was playing with, you know, um Scott and Windham, but like they were there to see me too, which was which was a change. Has uh you heard from Keegan Bradley. Is he one of these guys paying attention? Um, I we have we have texted, but not nothing really further than than that. It hasn’t been I don’t have too much, you know, exciting news other than that I got to go play good these next couple weeks. Well, you got quite the stretch. I mean, first, third, finishing up with a uh with a 10th. I feel like going into these playoffs, you could do some serious damage. Yeah, I mean for me I’m I’m really right now my focus is East Lake. Um I go I got to go have a good couple weeks here and and earn my place there. Um and then you know it’s kind of like you take care of one thing it might take care of the other. I’m well aware that like this is going to be a very hard team to make and my position I’m I’m obviously been playing well right now but this is not a just you know obviously it helps to play well at the right time but this is a multi-bully year you know running schedule like uh whatever ranking so if I made it it’d be the coolest thing ever and if I didn’t I still had like a pretty cool year and um I’m not I’m I’m playing with house money at the moment. So, I I don’t really I shouldn’t say I don’t care, but I won’t be like distraught that if it doesn’t happen. Yeah. Your I guess your expectations weren’t be on this team prior to this like late like surge to try and, you know, make it. Now, three weeks ago, I was just trying to make the playoffs. Exactly. Right. And there’s other guys like Keegan in particular, like when you saw on the Netflix show, like that thought they were going to be in for a full year. You’re like preparing for it. You’re getting your family ready, you got all the bags packed, and then you get the call that you’re not on. Like, that’s a different vibe than like the kid coming shooting out of nowhere, all of a sudden wins a tournament. Like, now you got four play podcast putting him in the RDER Cup. People are going nuts being like, “Oh my god, Godup’s getting in the 12 spot.” Like, that’s a different vibe of like, “All right, hey, hey, Chris, like you’re not not this year, but you’re going to be one of our guys going forward.” Like, that mentally has to be a different vibe for sure. Yeah. And like and now that I not that I have a taste of it, but like I’d like to at least like now that I can at least talk to, you know, some of these guys about it, like I’d like to even if it doesn’t work, like just pick their brains for the future and and you know, hopefully hopefully make a team and and kind of get running. But um yeah, like I said, I know it’s going to be really hard to make and um I’m not I’m not going to lose sleep over it if I if I don’t. But um yeah, I’m just I’m I’m very, you know, grateful to be in the spot that I am for sure. Play well, dude. Just keep playing well and you’re going to be on that team. Like just keep like playing well. That’s really all that is, right? And that’s why golf is so simple, too. It’s like you just like any anakes care of that. 100%. we got a text message from an unnamed player that like we didn’t put on the list and like he’s like how do you not have me on the list and I was like I was going to respond like just play better, you know what I mean? Like you can’t but it’s like at some point you have to just play better. Like we’re not going to just put you on the list cuz we Yeah. It’s like the player relations guys on tour it’s like anytime you ask a question it’s like I was like I know you can answer with play better but like can you give me a different answer? Like Yeah. Did you have any Did you watch Happy Gilmore 2 yet, by the way? I did. I watched it on Monday when I came home from 3:00 a.m. on the couch. Honest review. Probably what I was expecting like like I thought it was I thought like Willie Z was pretty funny in it. He he caught me off guard and like I don’t know him that well and I was like I didn’t know he had like he had that in him. Um I thought it I mean it was it was perfect for me. Like I Monday I was so beat up from traveling. I just like I wanted to watch a stupid movie on the couch and laugh and like I the people that were going into it thinking that like it was going to be this amazing like blockbuster movie. It’s like it’s really just sit down, laugh, watch it and you know make put a smile on your face. Yeah. I mean I I thought it was horrible but I did laugh at a couple things. I mean we we got into the debate being like at some point you could still try and make a good movie. Like everyone keeps saying like, “Oh, what’ you expect? Like it wasn’t going to be good.” It’s like, “Well, you still could have made it good.” Like there’s no reason to like not make it good. Yeah, there are definitely a couple weird like the last hour last half hour was absurd. The Maxi thing was a little strange, but um I uh I enjoyed the cameos as well. I thought Scotty was sneaky. Pretty funny, too. Scotty was funny, too. So funny. Yeah. Um have you let your mind wander at all to the 2026 Masters tournament? I I did um it’s funny. I I didn’t all day like at Scottish and then when Rory missed, I was like, “Holy [ __ ] I’m going to play in the Masters.” That was like that was what I thought about. Um but since then, not really. Like it’s so far away. I I haven’t I haven’t. But um I’ve had like people come up to me and be like, “It’s so awesome.” So, uh, we’ll see what happens. But, uh, I I’m happy that I know I’m gonna be there for that for sure. Do you have, uh, when you’re playing, do you have a specific Cuz I’m in the weeds right now, like on my social media po posting like my yardages and everyone like says I hit it like a freaking, you know, spring bean. But, um, and like I’m just going to go there. Just Yeah, I didn’t know where I was going to go there. Honestly, I was trying to rack. I was going through all the things that people said about try not to get cancelled. I picked like the cleanest one, so I went with string bean, which I don’t I haven’t said the word string bean in [ __ ] I don’t even know how many years, but um I’ve really been like working on my game. I feel like my scoring hasn’t been there. But like the one thing that I’m trying to work on right now is like a one specific swing thought of like this is what I want to accomplish and I don’t want to make it too um you know complex and like confusing for myself where it’s like I feel like there was there’s there’s time there’s times where I’m like take it back this way, bring it down this way, make sure that you’re making contact here, finish it and you’re like thinking through an equation like what’s your thought process as you’re standing over a golf ball? Do you have a specific one or are you like reactionary based off of certain environments, certain shots, certain golf courses? I’m very I would say strange in the fact that like I’m a very feel like if it feels good in my hands, I know I’m going to make a good swing at it. Like so I’m very like regripping all the time and like trying to get it to feel right. Um but most of the time like I’m not thinking about my swing very often. Um, I’m very like, all right, how am I going to make this ball cut 15 yards or like I’m trying to like on the range I’m trying to start it at this tree and finish it on this tree. Like I’m just trying to make the ball move how I want it to. And for me, it all just comes down to for the most part just set up and where the ball’s starting. Um, you know, relative to where I want it to. So, I’m not a like I’m a big believer in just like once you once you’re there like you got to just play with what you got. Um, if you’re wor like for me, if I’m worried about swing stuff on the course, I’m done. Like, yeah, that’s an I’m MC. I’m out. Um, but for me, like it’s very just how am I going to play this course? Like, what shot do I see and how can I make that ball do what I want? When you guys get to your level, that’s really what you’re working on is moving the golf ball. Like for amateur golfers, we’re just trying to get the ball straight and in the air. Like I’m trying to specifically hit the ball in the center of the club face and just feel that juicy spot on the sweet spot and just go. Like are you just constantly working on just like left to right, right to left, risers, check downs? Like it’s all movement based for me. Other guys probably not, but like I I just go with what my eyes see. Like, so if I have like wind off the right and I have, you know, a dog leg right, I’m going to try to make my ball like work with the fairway as much as I can just to give myself the best chance to like hit that fairway where um, you know, and if like if you have a green that kind of goes like front left to back right, you kind of just like want to work it with the green rather than trying to hit a draw over a bunker and, you know, your margins just get so much smaller. So, I just try to make make the margins as big as possible by moving the ball, if that makes sense. Yeah. Do you ever like on our algorithm for social media because we’re such golfers, I get, you know, swing tips come through and like a breakdown of Chris Goddarup swing. Does that ever just happen to you when you’re rolling through your social like watching my like someone my someone like breaking you down or something? You’re like, “Huh, watch this.” Only because I get like tagged in it or like it just forcefully pops up in my feed. But no, I like I’m scrolling on my phone and I see people swings all the time and I watch everything. I I I just like I like hearing what people say whether it’s smart or dumb or um and there is no smart like it’s just whatever works for you. But uh I I do watch like a ton of golf videos, good or bad, on my on my phone. Oh dude, you got to go to my com you got to go to the comment section under me under my freaking yardage video from yesterday. It’s a cesspool, dude. It’s honestly entertaining, but it’s assessful. Like I thought that I was being I thought I was being like truthful. I was like, “Hey, this is just how I’m hitting it now.” And like the five iron I chunked and I kept it in there. Like I my sixiron went 175. My five iron went 179. I kept it in. Like I’m not going to lie about it. Like and everyone’s like, “You only hit your five iron 179.” Like obviously it’s a joke. Like that’s why I put it in there. Trying to be funny out here. And also I suck. It’s crazy. Maybe your humor just didn’t relay and you need to work on that. It didn’t need to work. Really didn’t. You’re like, “Wow, that’s a bad five iron.” I’m like, “I know that’s the I was going to say you just can’t you can’t put a chunk iron in the yardage thing unless you like say you gota you got to make sure everyone knows it’s not a joke.” Dude, Trevor, exactly. That would have been that would have been smart. Trevor Zagers in the NHL was literally like, “You cannot put that five iron with like all laughing emojis.” I’m like, “You didn’t get it either. Come on now.” Um, do you guys ever give each other swing? Have you ever gotten like a swing tip from a pro like during practice round or like a match? Someone sees something and like, “Yo, like you should be doing this.” For sure. And most of the time, no one’s going to say anything unless you say like, “Hey, do you see anything?” or like like usually you’re in the weeds at that point too of like you know it’s usually not a good thing if you’re asking guys if they see anything but like you know if you hit three balls on you know a hole and they’re like and you’re like what the hell’s going on and they’ll be like someone might say like hey I think you’re like open or something like but nothing it’s very rare you see guys on the range unless they’re really good friends in practice all the time like telling people what to too. Yeah. Did you ever like pick up distance or were you always just bombing it at every level? I I hit it far as a kid. Um not straight, but I hit it far. And I I definitely picked up distance when there was like a time my sophomore year to junior year, I think, at college at Ruckers. I like lost like 40 pounds and like really focused on the gym and and like got after it. That’s when I was that’s when I went from like hitting it, you know, over 300 to like 325 and ch like and that’s when I was like, “All right, you know, that was that was a big like jump.” Other than that, I I really have not like now I don’t even care. I you know, I like I like that I hit it far because it gives me an advantage sometimes when it’s going straight, but like I’m not worried if my five iron is going, you know, a certain distance. 179. Yeah, right. Are you a How far does your five iron go? Depends where we are, but I’m in like the two 215 220 range give or take, right? Yeah. Yeah, that’s a little different for sure. Like that that make that makes me feel better though cuz I am a string bean and like when I hit it right, I’m like 186, you know, 185. It’s like I should be freaking 20 yards, 30 yards off of Chris Goddarup. I’m not. [ __ ] Praise God. Or guy hits the ball a mile. I don’t. These are things. These are just factual. This is These are just facts. Yeah. And there’s some things where you just you just surrender to life. You know, you know, you’re not gonna I know I’m not going to run a six-minute mile ever in my life. So, I don’t care. You could rush off the edge, though, man. Like, I’d take you on my football team any day. You’re stocking, man. Like, you’re not getting moved anywhere. I don’t know. I’m not tall enough, though. I’m I need I need a bigger frame. Yeah. I don’t know. Like we had to build like a PJ tour football team. I’m throwing you on there. Maybe like a Yeah, we’re working with not you know string beans. Yeah, I’m Yeah, exactly. Willy Z is not making that team. No. Are you like a golf course guy like over in Scotland? I believe did you go play North Barrack and like check some places out? Yeah, we went we went there because like the host hotel for that tournament is on North Barrack and we went the year before and played as well. Um I I’m a golf course guy just but I I’m not a like hard nose about it. I I like playing the different court and I think that’s just from growing up in the Northeast too where like all that stuff is very relevant. Um, but I’m, you know, I’m not like reading books on my spare time of, you know, green designs and and stuff, but I think like different grasses and stuff is really fascinating. And uh, and just how how it all works is like is more fascinating to me. Like like growing up on Bent and then like coming here and playing on Bermuda, like how you have to maintain it all. Like that that stuff is fascinating to me. Yeah. Frankie’s done some videos with that with like what it takes to maintain different grass and such. And it is interesting because we did like thing called behind the greens where like we filmed them get the golf course ready for the US Open at Wingfoot and then we did it the next year at Tory Pines and just that difference and talking to both superintendents and both guys like in charge of that was like so fascinating. And at Wingfoot, like even even the uh the the the um temperature, like if I remember they were saying like if the temperature went below like 62 degrees, like it would ruin the whole tournament. Like you had to like make sure everything was perfect and Yeah. Like the stuff that they have to deal with for those conditions for you guys is out of control. It’s it really is like a miracle that those those golf courses end up the way that they do. Like how much work has to go into it. Yeah. It’s like even last week 3M it rained. I mean, it had to have rained three inches on Wednesday and we’re out there playing, you know, Thursday morning and it’s like perfect. It It’s crazy. What’s your Is your favorite grass to play off bent because you grew up on it? Uh, I don’t know anymore. I if I had like a perfect if I had a perfect course I could build, I would play bent fairways, bent tea boxes, and I’d have like uh Bermuda greens and Bermuda chipping areas because I think I think it requires a lot of skill around the greens on Bermuda. Um, but I don’t like Bermuda Fairways cuz they just kind of like grab the club and and it it does some janky stuff, but like I have the Windom on right now on the TV and like I just the green’s like amazing and it’s much easier to chip if you can do it. You can stop the ball wherever you want whereas like Ben’s kind of like a little a little more uh variable. Yeah, I like that. Like Bermuda chipping on Bermuda is like a separator. It’s like you got to really know what you’re doing. Yeah. That can give like the amateur when you go down there or like I’m not you I’m out in Scottsdale and it’s like this like overseed rye that you’re chipping off of that’s basically like you’re in a simulator room and it’s so easy and then you go to Bermuda and like I can’t hit the ball in the air sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. You just lay sod every time. Yeah. You’re laying it all over the place. I like that you’re a golf sicko. He’s sitting there watching the windom right now. I I never get to do this. I got a couple buddies playing so I get uh I get to sit down and watch and and have some coffee. Um your your Ruters I mean I know you were at Ruckers then obviously Oklahoma. You still got like a lot of pride for Ruckers and all your time there. Yeah, for sure. I I am definitely more invested in their sport. I mean I spent four years compared to one. Um like Rucker basketball for me was the big like cuz I always had the offseason to watch and and that was like the sport I was invested in the most there. So, um, yeah, if they lose like a heartbreaker that that like that crushes me, which seems to happen a lot cuz we had a guy at Barcel TJ uh and like he is const like he’s my Ruters like insider where like I don’t watch much college basketball but like I know from his heartbreak videos like how often that’s happening. It it I don’t know if it’s just like bias but it feels like it happens a lot and it it is painful. you guys are getting like buzzer beater like half court buzzer be against you. It’s like it’s out of control it seems like. And Ruters basketball like when when Ruters basketball is good and St. John’s basketball is good. Like the Northeast needs that college basketball kind of like, you know, or maybe not Northeast because like there’s obviously like got teams in the Boston area and and and Syracuse and all that, but like that New York, New Jersey area needs college sports to be good. And it seems like the only option that we have or the only like teams that could do it are the basketball team. And it’s like it’s been years and years and years since they’ve actually had good teams. Yeah. I mean, my my like junior year maybe, right before COVID, we had a really good team and we lost to Houston by like I think on a buzzer beater in the NCA tournament in the round of 32 and they ended up going to like the final four. Yeah, that’s the one I was thinking of. Um, yeah, that one that one hurt a lot. Uh, but like we I mean from when I went there my freshman year to now, it’s like a totally different place in terms of athletics and I was I think they just hired the new AD yesterday. So, I mean, football’s football is so much better. It’s not, you know, where I think they want it, but like we went seven and six last year. We haven’t gotten seven and six in probably, you know, 15 years. Yeah. Um, so it’s just like it’s a very hard, especially now with all the NIL stuff, it’s hard to scale it really fast, but they’re in the right direction, which is promising. Was the NIL stuff going on when you were transferring? Were you like a part of that? It it happened my the the spring of my final year at OU. So like it was very um like it was not really a thing at all. Yeah. You just missed it. That’s all right. I’ll survive. Yeah. I mean he’s going to be all right. But like I wonder how much that’s changing the landscape. Like if you first got her up, you know, four years after and like if you were starting there, if that was your first year, how much different your trajectory would have been? Yeah. I don’t know if it would have been better or worse. I I Right. I’d argue probably worse. Um Yeah, because you’re making decisions based off of like money and all like things that come with it as opposed to like you just went to a school that you I mean you started the show saying like you felt comfortable, you’re close to home, you got comfortable, you got better at the game of golf and all of a sudden then you were able to make the transition. That’s a more natural progression in a career as opposed to like just going after the best uh scenario at that moment. might not have been the best, you know. And I, you know, and I was definitely not gonna make any money when I first went to school, right? Um, but by the time, you know, I I just I don’t know. I like I feel like it’s, you know, such small dollars. I mean, it’s not for football guys and stuff, but like golf, it’s such small dollars and you have a chance to make big dollars if you figure it out. So, it’s like, is it really worth the let’s call it 50 grand or whatever when you can if you go to the place where you fit in, right? And you can make way more than that. Yeah. It’s like, where is like the line of like, all right, this is like that’s sort of the like argument with equipment choices now on the PGA tour, right? It’s like if you’re one shot better over the course of the year, it pays for whatever the biggest company would have paid you. Yeah. I mean, unless you’re Scotty or whoever where you can kind of pick your deal, you know, I only want to play, you know, the ball in three clubs or whatever, they’ll be like, “Yeah, sure. Of course.” Um, but like most of the guys coming out of school, they want you to play all 14 clubs of ball and and it’s like, “Am I going to like for me, I I’ve always been a multiple club and the bad guy.” So, it was never going to happen for me. But um yeah, it’s like the the value of it is just not compared to all these tournament purses now. It’s like you have one top 10. You paid for your whole contract most likely unless you’re making the boatload, right? Yeah. I was with like I was with one of our tailor made guys this past weekend. We were talking about you and he’s like, “Oh yeah, that guy plays whatever the hell he wants pretty much.” Yeah. Yeah. I’m sure I drove them that every once in a while, but uh No, he was like I respect it. He’s like, “If I was him, I would do the same thing for the most part.” Yeah. Just like, “Yeah, play whatever the hell you want.” Um, what’s your what what’s your Are you a tinkerer? Like, do you tinker with stuff or you kind of stick I’ve been good about it this year. Um, but yes, I mean, I can show you my garage and it’s it’s filled to the brim um with stuff. But sometimes it’s like sometimes it’s not my fault though because you know once you start everyone wants to just throw it on you. So like then you just get all the stuff that you didn’t ask for for the most part. But I I’m a big like putter driver, not as much driver anymore, but like and wedges. I love like I love the different grinds and stuff. Um so I have a [ __ ] ton of those. that that’s I think that’s the one big thing that people don’t realize how how many changes go into a professional golfer’s like equipment and and not really necessarily swing but like I mean these drivers have so much custom customization now with all the different weights that you move around like we’ve gotten to take a little peak behind the curtain with Tailor Made and see like what a guy like our guy Adrian that works for Tailor Made like what he’s able to do to a guy’s driver or a 3-wood like the day of a tournament and like move things around. It’s unbelievable how like cuz you guys are so consistent. So like if they see even the slightest bit of an inconsistency, they can be like, “Oh, I know exactly what that is and this will now go straighter.” That’s like to me blows my mind. And a lot of it a lot of it too is like it’s amazing what uh lying off does too. We got into a whole lie angle conversation out in California. This guy was like he’s like no one’s talking about for the amateur golfer lie angle. Yeah, it’s true. It’s and like I know that like but like if you order a set of tailor made clubs off and this is every company not just tailor made like if you order a set from a factory like there’s a good chance that it’s probably a touch off like they’re not you know it’s not like it’s tour quality where it’s like you’re going to get exactly what you asked for. You’re going to be in the ballpark but like I mean for me like a degree is the difference between hitting the green and missing it. like what the hell just happened shot, right? And it’s just and and yeah, it’s it’s one of those things where it’s definitely worth like looking at. Oh, I definitely think that’s something if you’re, you know, a committed golfer and no matter what level you’re at, I definitely think that you should go to some sort of fitting and figure out the lie angles because what this guy was showing us like the difference in hitting the the center of the club face with your swing. You can have any swing in the world. As long as the line angle is correct to what you’re swinging, you should hit a better shot than Yeah. Right off. I mean, it makes so much sense. If you just showed someone like like how it works, they would be like, “No shit.” Like that that makes so much sense. Yep. It’s all backwards, too. Like what you would think is probably opposite of what you should do. Like you’re like, “Hey, I’m missing it right or whatever.” Like, you know, I’m probably too too flat. And it’s like actually if your toes in the ground like or if your heels in the ground or whatever, it’ll just rip it left. And so it’s just like it’s all golf’s annoying in that sense too. Will you change the bounce of your wedges for different grass? Yeah, I changed my bounce at Scottish actually. Um because it’s so firm over there. You can’t like you can’t get under it. So I had to shave off a bunch of like the the back of the of the wedge. Um, and then obviously if you’re on soft grass like but I try to keep it in the ballpark of they’re all very similar cuz you kind of just get used to how it feels. Um, but I do I do mess with it cuz the bounce basically like moves the soil, right? Like if you were watch it in like slow motion like the bounce like goes underneath and like pushes everything away. So you’re saying if it’s like really hard pan, you really don’t need that. It’s not you want like no bounce. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz it’s not getting into the the residue or whatever that’s going to be under the ball. It’s essentially like you want a knife that’s just going to cut right through it. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz like over there it’s so firm and I had like a little bit of bounce and it would hit the ground first and then like it would make the ball come off way hotter than what you wanted. So like you take it off and it would come out how you expect it to. If you watch it in a hundred million times zoom, like what’s happening with the bounce hitting the ground? It’s probably going to hit the ball in a weird spot because like you said, it’s getting that like Yeah. reverberation off the ground. Yeah. It’s so interesting, man. I for us like we’re just laying sod and [ __ ] skull [ __ ] things over greens and [ __ ] Like it doesn’t matter. But like I find that so interesting for you guys like how Yeah. I like talking matters for you. I like talk like even if I’m just bored at the course and I want to go over there and I go hang out in the trucks and talk to those guys like because they all have cool stuff that they like have ideas and it might not work. It might work but like they like messing with it and trying it out too. Are you ever going to go the Bryson route and like create your own like no clubs and grinds? I’m not smart enough. I’ve done my I like when I was at Ruckers I grinded my own wedges actually um at like the maintenance facility. Uh but um How do you grind a wedge like on your own like that? Like they had like a wheel like a sand wheel and you just kind of like you just throw it in there and you were just messing around with different types of like variations of it and stuff. Yeah, cuz I wanted my goal was to just get it to lay as flat as possible like so I could hit like flop shots and get the ball high. But I like now we’re knowing what I know. I took like so much weight off the club, so it was probably so hard to hit a full shot with, but I could hit whatever shot you wanted around the games. My dad My dad has a spin doctor. You ever see that thing? Yeah. Yeah. And he’s got all these clubs. He’s got the chipper putter. He’s got all these things, but like the spin doctor and he’s not good enough. He’s actually getting way better this year. Like I gave him a little iron lesson and I’m like I taught him how to like I did that thing rigs where you like the abbreviated follow through because he can’t take grass. He was always like like sculling it. So I’m like just spin feel like you’re stopping the club after you make contact. And that’s like legitimately changed his life. He’s hitting he’s hitting like seven irons onto the green over bunkers. Like it’s like something that has done in years and like that first couple practice swings he feels like he’s stopping and then he takes one full practice swing and then goes right into it. Anyway, he’s so he hasn’t he hasn’t really hit that spin doctor the way it is. And so my whole life of watching him have the spin doctor, he would chip it and it would stop on a dime. But like I never saw it do the rip back. And once we gave it to one of my buddies that played with us and he hit it like a full 90 yard shot with this thing. It hit the back of the green and ripped right back to us. Like went down the hill off the green right back to 90 yards basically. It was like a It was a video game golf ball. I’ve never seen anything like Dude, the grooves are like two inches off the club and they’re all plastic. Yeah. It’s crazy. You would you would tear the ball up in half. It’d be insane. Yeah. It would just ruin everything. Yeah. Uh yeah, after you if you’re hitting a couple wedge shots, you have to switch out balls after a couple holes. I I’m very um so I use a line on my ball. So like if I hit hit it and the line gets messed up, I switch balls. But I if I’m playing good with the ball at the moment, I try to ride it out as long as I can. Uh yeah, but I do like, you know, occasionally get, you know, ball doesn’t go in the hole and ball ends up in the bushes. It’s understandable. But there’s no Understandable. If it if I take a gash out with like a bunker shot or whatever, I just switch them. What’s your putting routine? Are you uh like like how do you how do you see the line of a putt? I read it normal. So like I I’m a I see like the arc. So like the like the putt view thing if I don’t know if you know what that is. Yeah. So like I try like that’s how I see the ball going in the hole. Um so then I try to match the line to what I think is the right like area and I’ll stand over I actually read the ball from over top like how I’m actually going to putt it. Um and I’m like all right you know if it’s a left to righter I think this looks like it’s going in the left center which is you know the middle for a straight putt. So, I just kind of feel it out and if I’m like, “All right, that feels too high.” I get back down and move it over and try to just feel it to where it gets in the right spot. Like, if I tell you to hit it right edge and you set like with no line, you set up and try to hit it right edge, like you’re probably not going to start it on right edge cuz like your eyes change from behind it to over the top of the ball. So, like I try to read it from how I’m actually going to putt it rather than behind it, you And then do you go down and line it up or do you putt like with no line? No, I putt with a line but I read like I check the line from like up address. Yeah, I got it. Interesting. So you’ll line it up, stand over it, make sure that it’s online, and then it’s not. You’ll go back down, readjust the line, stand over it, look at it again, and then now you’re ready to rock. Yeah. Usually I’m like pretty close, and then I like I’ll either go just a touch up or touch a touch down and then go from there. And then with putt view, like we’ve seen like how it almost looks like a video game, right? Where it’s like you’re seeing the path that it takes. But so with putt view, just for me that I think I know what it is where it’s like you’re picking a point in which you’re putting to that’s going to be like the apex of the curve essentially. There’s different ways. So like that’s one way and then you could also just like that’s more of an aim point way of doing it. Okay. Um but my like my eyes just see like a shot tracer for example of like the putt. So like, you know, it’s more of just just the arc, not not a high point and then and then just hit a straight putt to that point and then let it break. Like I just looking at the hole and like seeing like in your perial vision how it got there and then you’re just like being a creative athlete and figuring out how to get it on that like visual path that you see into the hole. You’re not necessarily picking like, “All right, two inches to the right back. We’re going to hit it there because then if it dies there, it it turns.” Okay. I mean, that’s that’s way more creative and it probably opens up a lot more options for you as opposed to like being just dead set on one spot. Yeah. And I Yeah, because I think the amount of times in golf like you have an idea of what like you want to do and then you get over it, you’re like that looks horrible and now it’s like I’m committed to this line. Like now what do I do? And and like obviously you can’t take two minutes either. So like you have to be kind of quick about it. So like for me that that is a very like I got a starting point and most of the time it’s pretty damn close and then I’ll just kind of go from go a little bit high or low from there. When you’re making contact with the putt, are you doing anything like looking like I some guys like look a couple inches in front of the ball and roll it over a piece of grass? Do you do any of that? I just try to roll it down the line of like the the ball. So I just try to like almost drag my hand like I put left hand low. So, I just try to drag my like left hand down the down the line of the uh of the ball. My uh my iPad’s about to die here. I’m going to bring Okay. Yeah. Sorry. We’re getting deep into like the No. Yeah, we’re getting really golf analytic here. Well, dude, like I’m we all we’re always searching for something, right? And like now like it’s all about full swings and like and chipping and I’m I never focus on putting. So, like it’s something I’ve really been interested in of like how do these guys how are you guys so [ __ ] good on the greens? Like how is it always so consistent? I feel like we never know how to do it. So, it’s interesting to hear different guys like and and what your thought process is. Yeah. I mean, everyone like my buddy Bridgeman, he he practices with a blade and then plays in the tournament with the spider because he said if I can put good with the blade at home, the spider’s going to feel amazing once I get going. and he’s been one of the best putters on tour this year. Wow, it’s a good idea. I’ve never heard anybody doing that. That’s a really good idea. I haven’t either until like So, you just hear all these crazy ideas on tour and like and they kind of sound smart sometimes. Uh yeah, that is a uh I mean I’m sure you do. Do you do a million different drills or do you just kind of like how do you practice? You know, we talk a lot about we don’t really know how to actually practice golf. Yeah, like I was saying earlier, I just try to I try to simplify it, but like putting I have like a a mat, you know, like one of those arc mats. Um, so I start on that every day and if I’m rolling it good off that, I know I’m in the right ballpark and then I just try to calibrate my lines. Um, so I’ll do like a couple rings around a hole from like 10 ft. Uh, and if I feel like I’m in the, you know, in the right zone of that, you know, I kind of move on to just practicing my speed and then I go from there. But it’s really like a lot of my time now when I get to tournaments, like I don’t practice like hard at home anymore. Like I’m very focused on like, all right, you know, I’m playing on Bermuda grass this week. I got to chip a bunch. I’m going to have some uncomfortable chips and then I got to get the speed of the greens down and then I go play nine holes. like I’m not on the range grinding my ass off and and kill and you know and burning myself out. Yeah, that’s probably a good idea. Probably a good call. Yeah. I just I we talk about this a lot, but it’s like when it comes to like we can go out and hit balls, but like to do dedicated, legitimate, effective practice, I feel like for the weekend golfer is we kind of don’t know what we’re doing. Yeah. I would say like most of the time even on tour if you’re hitting balls for a long time you’re going to end up making it worse rather than better unless it’s really bad to start. But like for me like the more I hit the more I’m going to be start thinking about like my swing and stuff like that where like if I kind of just get loose, get going, then I’m kind of good to go. Well, dude, we’re not going to make you stand up and do the rest of the interview here. here. I mean, you’re an hour. We really appreciate the uh the time. I thought I had enough charge. I didn’t make it. No, dude. We took all your charge up. Um you gave us more than enough time. We really appreciate this. Uh you’ve been playing awesome. We’re we’re excited to have another American to root for the, you know, a good old New Jersey boy probably listening to Bruce Springsteen on his way to the golf course. Um you know, we’re we’re pumped to see you make this run for the RDER Cup. I know that you didn’t expect to be a part of this, but like it’s there, dude. Like, go and get it, man. Like I know that like you’re saying all these things like you’re saying the right stuff, but like [ __ ] get that. Like your fire is firing right now. Like let’s just roll right through these playoffs. Make a splash. Make it hard for them to not pick you. Come on. Yeah, that’s the that’s the goal. Make it hard. But make it hard. Yeah. I want you wearing this hat proud being like, I’m going to Beth Paige. Go to Morell’s before. We’re going to have some pizza. Better than Jersey pizza. And we’re gonna freaking We’re going to win this thing. That’s the goal. Let’s go, baby. Let’s go. Sorry, my Wi-Fi sucks, by the way, but we got that guy. He actually made it longer than I thought you were at from the start. What’s amazing is when you watch like the clips that’ll come out, like he’s going to be crystal clear, so like Yeah, that is crazy. It’s insane. It’s insane. I know. Um Yeah, you’re the man, Chris. Way to represent over there. And uh let’s get you on that Ryder Cup team. Keep it up. Yeah, you got it. We’ll have to get around with Lurchin at some point. Uh oh my god. If you hear from him, let us know. We haven’t heard from him in like a year. I will. He did text me. He did text me. He texted me a picture uh from Scotland and was like he’s like you’re the man. He is the best. He’s alive. He’s alive. I know that. He is the best. Lurch is great. He went from Lurch to like Sasquatch. We see him like once in a blue moon in the middle of He is. That’s actually not too far off probably. All right. Well, thanks again, dude. Be good. All right. You guys have a good day. Thanks, Chris.
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Didnt watch the entire podcast…. Do they say when the cypress point video is coming out?
Buying any and all Gotterup stock
Nice interview with Gotterup!
Why are these not dropping on YouTube music anymore
Tough listen with Chris Gotterup chewing on his tongue while he speaks 🙄
Damn Riggs do everyone a favor and keep a hat on
Joel isn't a star. Good guy but doesn't want to put in the work. Ask Gino
Trent isn't the guy to talk about golf
Make sure you get Chris on before or after the Ryder Cup, would love to hear his thoughts he's a great interview. Maybe Foreplay and Lurch vs Chris in a video to come?
You need to hit Circling Raven, just south of Coeur d’ Alene. Awesome course!
Riggs says off the charts like 17 times
Trent didn’t even mention the weather of sf, that is the highlight of the trip for Floridians.
Why is everyone so rude to Riggs? Let him be. Whether he’s lying about his score or not, it’s not that serious. Here’s an idea. Instead of playing the haters, maybe play some actual fans of yours and your podcast.
are yall filming in michigan? I played forest dunes 2 weeks ago and playing arcadia and the south course in 2 weeks
Meanwhile Adam Sandler has been staying in Long Branch NJ at the Jersey Shore just 5 minutes from Chris Gotterup's family home in Rumson filming his new movie Roommates this past week. GO CBA COLTS!!!
Live in CDA. Stop telling people about it. Also, as good as the CDA resort is, it's only the third best public course in the area imo. Circling raven 30 minutes south is better and has hosted Epson Tour tournaments, and The Idaho Club is a Nicklaus course 45 minutes north in Sandpoint and is better.
When is the Ryder Cup merch coming?!
Gotterup is an absolute square