Will Campbell and Matt Light are in studio! Our blindsides are safe in this Left Tackle episode from The DUNKIN’ Nuthouse in Boston. We’re talking all things O-Line, Matt shares some classic tales from his days with the Patriots, and we get Will’s take on life in the league thus far. We put Will and Matt through our patented Dude Questionnaire to find out what kind of dude each of them are in this week’s Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light.
0:00 – Intro / Welcome to Dudes on Dudes
1:08 – Donut Dudes Presented by Dunkin’
3:55 – Welcome Matt Light & Will Campbell!
5:09 – Life Lately with the Dudes
7:03 – Tom Brady Talk
9:17 – Adapting to New England
13:25 – LSU Baseball Legends
14:28 – Thoughts on Tom Brady Statue
19:10 – First NFL Camp
20:18 – Light’s Advice to Campbell
22:45 – Patriots Rookie Skits
27:10 – All-Time Funny Patriots
28:21 – Coach Vrabel Stories
34:56 – Mike Vrabel as a Player
39:58 – Vrabes vs. NFL Coaches
41:42 – LSU Legacy and #7
43:20 – Non Skill Players
48:05 – LSU Football Mt. Rushmore
49:49 – Drake Maye Talk
51:22 – Young TB12
54:48 – Purdue Football Mt. Rushmore
1:02:31 – Hunting Stories
1:12:30 – The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light
1:13:28 – The Dudes Questionnaire
1:30:21 – What kind of dude is Matt Light?
1:32:01 – What kind of dude is Will Campbell?
1:36:48 – Wrapping up with Light & Campbell
1:38:50 – Thank you Dunkin’
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Hosted by Super Bowl Champions Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman, Dudes on Dudes is two of your favorite dudes going deep on a bunch of your other favorite dudes. Each week, Gronk & Jules highlight three dudes from the NFL and beyond. As only they can, Gronk & Jules break down each dude’s game, shed new light on their most memorable performances, tell plenty of stories that haven’t left the locker room, and ultimately categorize each dude. New episodes drop every Thursday throughout the NFL season.
Can you confirm? Would you really die for Drake May? I would. That’s my guy. That’s my guy. I mean, I don’t know what made me say it in the moment, but it came out great. Yeah. And you still stand by it? I stand by it. Yeah. Matt, would you die for Tom Brady? It depends on like what he’s leaving my kids. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes presented by Duncan and we are coming to you from the Duncan house in Boston. And I’m Julian Edelman. And I’m Rob Gronkowski. And this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And we’ve got our blind side covered today, baby. We have left tackles Matt Light and Will Campbell in studio. What are we talking about, Rob? Will earning the LSU number seven, gaining lots of respect. Jaden Daniels and Drake make comparisons and some great stories from back in the heydays. Plus, we find out what kind of dudes Matt and Will are in. And the chillest dude of the week presented by Kors Light. Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeart Radio. Got a hell of an episode, but before we do that, it’s time for the Donut Dude presented by Duncan. Oh, my favorite doughnut dudes presented by Duncan. Let’s go. Well, this is the segment where we determine which type of doughnut best represents our dudes. What type of donut is Matt Light? Well, we need something that’s more stalkier. A strong donut cuz Matt Light is country strong, but also he likes to bust chops. And what donut out there? He’s tricky. Is tricking people where it’s strong, tastes well, and you don’t even really I know what it is. Julian, what do you think? I think he’s a pumpkin donut. Oh my gosh. because he’s tricking you all all times thinking it’s Thanksgiving. Like it’s not Thanksgiving. This is We’re not supposed to be eating a pumpkin doughnut in February. And he’s always he’s always uh pumpkining people. Yeah. He He’s pumpkining pumpkin pumpkining pumpkining people. Pumpkin He’s pumpkin people. So it’s pumpkin people now. He’s pumpkining people. That is a great donut for Matt Light and it’s under the radar. It’s kind of like a strong donut. Pumpkins are strong. Matt Light is really really country strong. And I feel like he would be out, you know, on the fields just growing pumpkins or harvesting them. So, yeah. Matt Light. Stamp it. Pumpkin donut. Pumpkin donut. What’s Will? All right. Oh, Will Campbell. Great guy. We need like a a soft doughut. Soft looking doughut that just hits hard, you know, cuz Will, sweet guy. Sweet, sweet guy, but not a guy you want to tick off or mess with. You know, country type accent type of donut, you know, has that feel of, you know, being strong. Oh, man. A surprise. It’s like a surprise, right? Oh, maybe like a glazed blueberry possibly. I like that. I like that. What? Yeah, glazed blueberry. I can see, you know. Oh, a French curler a little bit. I mean, French people are strong. I know he’s not French, but he’s a strong strong, you know, guy. He looks like he can curl defenders. That’s where I’m getting to. Yeah. Uh, no, I guess not. Um, what do you think? Dang it, Jules. This one’s tough. Is he a Boston cream? You don’t know there’s cream in the middle until you bite it? Yeah. Yeah, possibly. Cuz that’s kind of like I said, you know, he’s super nice guy. Don’t take him off. But then once you take a bite, you’re like, “Oh [ __ ] there’s [ __ ] cream in here.” Oh, yeah. And it’s coming hard. It’s And it’s coming. That cream is strong tasting. Strong tasting. I think he’s bossing cream. He’s a boss and cream. All right. You’re so smart, Julian. You just know your donuts, man. No, I’m a donut guy. Call me the donut king. Okay, let’s toss it to our awesome interview with Will Campbell and Matt Light. All right, here we go. Today we are joined, Who are we joined by, Robbie? By two special guests today. It’s your first show. Having two special guests, two left tackles is an honor. I never seen Julian so fired up before. I like big men. Well, yes. Also, you play quarterback in college as well. And these are the guys that protected you so you wouldn’t get hurt, Julian. And our first guest here today is a threetime Super Bowl champ, a Patriots Hall of Famer, the man that protected Brady’s blind side for the first decade of, you know, the dynasty era. Dynasty. Dynasty. He played one extra season because he wanted to play with me, the GR. I appreciate that, Matthew Light. Thank you for making me feel good. Oh. Oh, I gave it away. We are joined by Matthew Light, ladies and gentlemen. And then we also have the other tackle, the new tackle, the future tackle, rookie, fourth overall pick, LSU legend, Will Campbell. Welcome to the show, guys. Welcome to the NutHouse here in Boston. How are you guys doing? This is the first time you guys have met. Um, Matt, first with you. What’s life looking these days besides trying to recruit Will Campbell to uh your your your gun show thing? The gun show? Yeah. What is that? Sounds really good actually. Like the gun. We maybe want to change the name and and just talk about that, you know, right away. Matthew, we know you’re going to talk about when is it? The shootout here for one reason. It’s Tuesday after the first game in September, right? September 9th. Is it September 9th? Yeah. 21st year, by the way. Let’s go. 20 like 21 years. So that spans like the time before you guys. Yeah. Going I mean which doesn’t even seem that long ago. No. How old are we? How how old are you? 21. 21. Shoot out when you were in the womb. Yeah. Like literally the shootout is him. Yeah. Like his legacy in years is our legacy in running this event, which is pretty wild. And and I I do have to say that I I remember getting a phone call uh from a mutual friend of ours who grew up in the same area and I remember he said, “Hey man, you got Monroe’s finest coming up there to New England.” And I was like, “Holy smokes.” I had no idea that Will was from that part of Louisiana, which is which is honestly a very special place, man. Yeah, it is pretty cool. Will, what are you up to these days? Just practicing really. Uh just trying to get ready for the season. uh get ready for week one, finishing up training camp before we get a few days off. And that’s really about it. Now, I got a quick question off topic. It just hit me when you started talking because it’s that southern draw that you have that Louisiana. I I remember like the first snidbit I saw of you said, uh you would die for Drake May. Can you confirm would you really die for Drake May? I would. That’s my guy. That’s my guy. I mean, I don’t know what made me say it in the moment, but it came out great. Yeah. Uh, it’s kind of just the emotion. Still stand by it. I stand by it. Yeah. Matt, would you die for Tom Brady? It depends on like what he’s leaving my kids. You know what I’m saying? And and just in full, you know, disclosure, um, I think the only nice things that my kids have ever received, like truly like heirloom quality things were from Tom. Examples. example of uh Okay, so and this is how bad I am cuz I just I don’t go down this road, but uh is it called Hermes? Hermes. Hermes. Oh, Hermes. Hermes. Thank you. Hermes. No. Yeah. Hermes. Herby. Herpes. So Tom gave my kids herpes. Herpes. Oh, no, he didn’t. He didn’t. I mean, we I can say I can say that. You guys can’t say that. I didn’t say that. But it is. What What did he give your kids from? Hermes. Hermes is That’s how you say it. It’s a designer clothing brand. Listen, the day that I ever thought that you would teach me how to pronounce something and say I mean this is today’s the day. Matthew. Yeah. But I did I got a uh it’s a holiday now. One of the kids got a scarf. Another one I think they even make books. I I Here’s what I do know. When you look it up, they’re quite expensive. They’re quite expensive. And so we we don’t even let our kids look at them, let alone touch them. They’ll get them one day, right? Because it was a gift. But, you know, but so I would say that um I felt like I was going to die several times trying to protect Tommy and it was just the fact that I was completely out of shape and undersized, you know. So, and by the way, like you think about when I came in, Grant Williams was the left tackle and we had they had drafted CLM, Adrien Clem, and I remember looking at these guys going, I’m in the wrong spot. And then the guys that took over when I left. Like come on, man. Sebastian Vulmer, the the the giant German. Giant German. And then Nate Solder. He’s even giant her. Can you say that? He’s giant. Yes. Giant. Making up words now. That’s my job. And then there was me, right? 6’4. You know, I I I I couldn’t I could I can hardly pick my own ears. So they talk about arm length and and now they’re making all this craziness. But I mean look, this is like like not a small human here. No, he’s he’s a large man. Yeah. And I love him. Well, speaking of Well, how do you like New England so far? It’s good. Uh I’ve been getting used to it. I’m adjusting. Uh I was telling Julian before I, you know, got drafted up here. Outside of going to an away game, I the furthest north or east I’d ever been was Atlanta. So, like it’s just it’s it’s definitely I guess you could say what some people would call a culture shock for sure, but you know, the football is great. Uh the people are great. Uh so, yeah, it’s been good so far. What about the food? How you liking the food here? Some of it’s pretty good. You have any clam chowder yet? No, I hadn’t I hadn’t had it. I don’t know if that’s really my speed. My favorite spot so far is definitely Arya. Ara. Oh, in the north end. North end. Wait, you like all the trees? See, people took that like but there’s a lot of trees. People took that and made it sound like I was an idiot. I had never like I thought always thought that the stadium was in downtown Boston. Yeah. Yeah. I never knew that it was until I came up here on my 30 visit that it was 45 minutes from the city. So, I should have went into more detail when I talked about that. Well, well, I I understand Joe because people take a lot of things I say and make me sound like an idiot as well. So yeah. So I I thinking with that I saw you just do something in your head. Well, I was just thinking like typically like when I just say things I do sound like an idiot. Like I don’t people don’t have to like interpret anything like it just kind of happens that way. Um I would say that uh like when you when you when you start cruising around here better, one of the things you’re going to say is the people are great just but not all of them. Okay? Cuz that’s what I remember thinking when I first got up here. I was like, “What is wrong with these people? Everybody’s in a rush. It’s it’s absolute chaos. They drive like it’s combative.” That’s what it is. It’s the pe It’s the old ladies with the road rage and like I’m just like, “Yep.” Why are you flipping me off? Like with style though, they’re typically pretty pretty pretty jazzy driving like a nice vehicle. I tell you one thing though about the people of New England, they are cold. They are kind of they have a mean to them. But I tell you, if you’re in need of help, real help compared to other like I I live in other parts of the country where there people are nice and they they put on a front of being nice, but if they saw you getting robbed right in front of them, they would walk by. People in New England, they’d help you. You know, they’re [ __ ] But because it that’s just what they it’s so [ __ ] cold here. You got to be something. It’s almost like the head coach, right? Like I tell people all the time, I’m like, “Vraes, like he’s he’s the biggest jerk in the room, but he’s your jerk.” Yeah. And you’re going to love him. Like I remember when he first came to the team, it was like, “Oh man, this dude’s got an edge.” And I knew just from some of the stories at Ohio State back in the day, but then you know, you get to know Braves and you’re like, “That’s my guy.” And and New Englanders are kind of the same way, man. It takes a bit of a buy in. like you need you need to walk around on this ground for a minute or two before they’re going to recognize the fact that you’re actually here. But once they do, sky’s is the limit, man. And and honestly, it’s why we it’s why we stayed. I mean, it’s, you know, my kids, you know, grew up here and we didn’t want to disrupt that. But on the on the flip side, you know, we met some amazing people. Amazing people. Now, Will, you know, Matt Light’s like best friends with your coach. You have any questions about Braves that you you have prepared to ask that you may need from Matt? I don’t know. Give me a second to think. I’m sure you think about that. Think Have you been to Red Sox game yet? I have. He actually took us took all the rookies to a game. It was pretty cool. I’m really not like a huge baseball guy. Like I definitely cannot watch MLB game on TV, but like going to a stadium uh eating a dog. I’m not into eating hot dogs. No hot dogs. No, but some nachos or something like that. Watch a game. I I can go with that. Would you do batting practice if they asked you to? Yeah, I would do that for sure. Not being a huge baseball guy, but you came from a a school where baseball is huge. They’re winning national championships. They’re always in contention. And uh you had a you guys had the first pick of the draft of of the MLB draft and pitcher Paul Skins. Did you meet him at all while you’re down there at LSU? Yeah, so he was actually there while uh that was my freshman year. him. Dylan Cruz was the second pick of the draft. And then this past year, they went one two that year. Yeah. [ __ ] I didn’t know that. Yeah. And then they had one dude go like 25. And then they just had a kid uh go number three, so they produce a lot of talent. Did you meet Livy Dunn? Yeah, I know her. Yeah, I know her, too. She’s uh she’s a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model with my girl. So Oh, really? Yeah. I met her a few times at the parties. Uh, but I never met Paul Schae and I’ve only heard great things about him. But how how big is he? Oh, he’s huge. He’s huge. Great dude. All about America, too. Really? All about America. Sweet. So, like you would love him as well. I love that. We would all love him. Like, I got to have your thoughts on the Brady statue. Any Yeah. critiques. What What are your thoughts on it? What would you change? Hey, listen. If you could change something about it. I know you’ve been thinking about this and I know you want to air this out and and I want to get right to that brace. I just saw for the first time last week um in person or or pictures I was up uh up elevated position looking down on it. Um we want to hear your thoughts. I didn’t get right up on it, but before we do that, can we go back just just a quick little rewind? Did you get like was there a problem? Did you choke on a hot dog when you’re Why don’t you like hot dogs? I just don’t. You’ve never liked a hot dog? Yeah. I think my mom like whenever I was like six or seven told me what they were made of and I just like I don’t really want to eat them. Okay. So you would eat like cuz I brought I brought like a good elk dog or something. Yeah. I’m just not eating Oscar Meyer from All right. Stop and show. Yeah. I feel better now. I don’t like to judge a young man. But I was starting to get a little judgy. I was like I’m not sure about this guy. You’re going to eat the hot dogs Matt Light produces though. Can guarantee you that. Yeah. They’re good. But they are they’re all natural. They are natural casings the whole nine made with love. But okay. So on the statue. So you guys have obviously been been up close and were you there for like the whole unveiling? Was not. Okay. I wasn’t either. We were out of town. So same. Um I just I want to know this much, right? So the most iconic thing like if I had to pick I do like the the arm up thing is kind of like it is him. I wouldn’t say it’s like the first thing I would have thought of. What was the first thing you would have thought of? Um I the double hand although we used to call that the lighthouse because the guys used to always make fun of me. It was my only move I had. It was like throw both hands up. But Tommy did that quite a bit, right? Both hands up, you know. Yes. And then celebration. So the one arm I mean maybe it was just easier for the bronze guy to do the one arm versus the two arm. I don’t know. The the problem I had right out the gate is it looks lonely. Like are we doing anything else around there? It’s like the base. He’s kind of in that big concourse all by himself. Yeah. Right. I think he needs a little squirrel next to him. That’s what I think. I was thinking like Logan and I and Copen since we’re local. We could go meet with the Bronze guy. We could accompany him, kind of get around him, make him feel a little bit more at home. You guys should definitely get cast as well. You know, I don’t think that. Or we could just go stand there and act like Do we get a check? Let’s probably not. Probably not. Probably. Probably not. I’ll still be there. Then you you’ve seen it though up close and personal. No, I haven’t yet. I’ve only seen pictures. I’m going to see it soon though. I’m excited. I thought they got the face done pretty well. Hey, here here’s one thing I will tell you. The body as well. They got the body. They got the wide rib cage cuz he did wear that big rib cage thing. Yep. Yep. skin tone looks great. You can obviously tell no night shades went into that man ever. And and here’s what I would say though. I am and and this is my own theory on this. I’m not saying I have any proof of this, but come on now. I was up there at Patriot Place at say 9:30 on like a Tuesday. And while I was there, I’m not kidding you, I saw at least four different groups of women. Not a woman, but like three to four that were all googly eyed over the statue and taking pictures and having their friends individual group shot grabbing people. Here’s my theory. That son of a [ __ ] is paying these people to do this. There’s no doubt in my mind the that’s not organic. You don’t find like groups of women like that. And by the way, like they were, you know, kind of all done up and the whole nine. I think he’s got them on rotation. Just make sure you keep having girls go by there. Make it look like everybody’s taking pictures. Wait a minute. You think Tom’s paying people to go take pictures in front of his brand new or is it RKK paying these groups of ladies? Has I don’t I don’t know that RK’s ever paid, you know, women to You think there will be a bill statue? Maybe. I’m just saying that’s why I’m thinking it’s Tommy. That’s why I’m thinking it’s Tommy. That’s That’s what I’m saying. That’s a good question. Will there be a bill statue eventually one day? And and will it be on a little tiny pedestal all by itself in the concourse? I don’t know. I don’t know. And I’m not I’m not judging where they put it. I think they probably got a long way to go. But, you know, he looked lonely is what I’m saying. And I think he’s paying women to go down there and hang out with his statue. That’s kind of where I was going with all this. Will, have you ever met Tom? I have not. I saw him at the preseason game after the Have you met his statue? I’ve seen it. I haven’t gone up and taken a picture with it. How’s camp been going? It’s been good. First camp. First NFL camp. It’s a lot different. It’s a lot longer than college. play college, you know, it’s really only like two weeks of practice and then, you know, you’re in game week. This was a little bit more long, but it’s been great. Uh, it’s a lot different uh in terms of like players and playbook. It’s just a lot more, you know, information, which is pretty cool. I enjoy that type of stuff. And, uh, but yeah, it’s been great so far. What’s been the biggest adjustment from college to pro ball? Is it the size of the players that you’re going against, or is it the speed of the game? I think it’s just like the the depth of the guys, you know, like whenever you’re in college, uh, and you know, the ones on the the edge, you know, they go take a blow, the guy coming in, it really didn’t matter what school, he probably just wasn’t even close to, you know, the guy that was in there first. And, you know, the guy that comes off the bench might have do something that you have more problems with than the first guy. So, I’d say that’s the biggest thing. There’s really not a drop off no matter who is in or out of the game. Yeah, that’s the truth. Matt, you know, you played how many seasons again? 11. Do you have any advice for Will going into week one, man? I well I can tell you my week one won’t be like your week one cuz I got I got injured in camp and I remember Bill was trying to put me a right tackle and then like literally the week leading up to our season opener against Cincinnati on the road. He’s like, “Hey man, you you feel good enough to practice?” And I’m like, “I mean, I think I think I can probably go now.” And he’s like, “Good. We’re going to put you back at left.” And I’m like, “Oh my gosh.” And he’s like, “And just be ready to go.” And then I was late to my first meeting. So that that’d be my number one bit of advice. Don’t be late cuz uh we’re actually playing in Cincinnati and my family like they literally there was not a person in my hometown I don’t think like every church bus was rented everything they all come down and it’s like I thought he was going to play and Bill literally walked up to me the day of not not the night before when I missed the meeting the the the day of the game and it was like I mean look you know I you know I’m not I’m not starting a guy that can’t even make it to a effing meeting and I’m like Okay. Yeah. Just just keep yourself ready. Jesus. Walked away. And that was it. So, did you start? I did not start. The buddy put you in the game. Yeah. After I’ve been sitting cold as a duck on the sideline and then at halftime, he’s like, “All right, you’re going.” And I’m like, “Oh, I hate my life.” So, you’re going to be way better off. But what made his Yeah, you’re going to you’re in a way better situation, Will, cuz you you don’t want to be sitting there and then be ice cold and going in right after halftime. What made Bill make that decision like all right like Light you go in now offensive tackle and pull whoever was the guy that was there right then? Was he getting beat? Did he give up three sacks? What what was his reasoning like all right let’s get let’s get Light in there now? I think he just wanted to see you know how he was going to handle the situation to be honest with you. I mean he could have you know how Bill is like once you make a mistake he plays games with you to make sure you don’t make that mistake again. That’s a fact. And he was sending a clear message. Now I will say that I I I was only late to two meetings in my life. Both of them were the night before games. And fast forward a few weeks, about midway through the season, my rookie year, I missed another team meeting the night before the game. But this time, I was with the only other two left tackles or the only other tackles on the team. So, he couldn’t he was just like kind of forced to let us play. But I would say this, man. It It’s what I need to know is when it comes to what you guys have done so far in training camp, is there such a thing as as a rookie skit or a rookie show? Does it exist anymore? It does. It does. Oh man, this is so great. How’s Vel think they’ve been going? Well, we had, you know, the rookie show. Uh, I guess that was last week. It didn’t go great. Uhoh. Okay. So, so what was the expectation like? Did you get like a little bit of a coaching after your first one? Like, hey, we need to step this up. Well, it was the all the rookie class and you know, we kind of planned out, you know, this whole hour worth of stuff. Yes. uh an hour fun show, variety show. Yeah, basically uh the first part lots of booze that we heard from the locker room of the So the opening act didn’t go so well. The first couple opening act first couple luckily uh you know me a few of the other O linemen uh Kyle Williams we were able to you know get a couple laughs there at the end. tried to, you know, say today, but Ves told us that it was the worst rookie show we’ve seen in 20 years. That’s not good. What was the punishment? He I think if honestly if we wouldn’t have, you know, had to if we would have been terrible at the end, completely bomb. They they would have made us redo it, but he was just he was thinking about doing it, but I I just I think you need to contact Matt Light. Mhm. Because Matt used to do a series of videos like he he would he took this [ __ ] to heart. Like he would do a Harry Kerry impersonation. It would take him probably 40 hours to make the entertainment for the team. So all those meetings he was probably missing night before game, he was probably getting something ready to entertain the team. I will never forget Mike Compton who was um centerguard, right? Played in the league forever. um was a was a veteran veteran by the time I got here in in uh in 2001 for my rookie year. I remember Mike was like, “All right, Rook, get up there and sing your fight song.” And this was just like an impromptu like like at lunch or something, right? Or maybe at dinner or whatever. And I remember thinking, “Yes, yes.” I’ve been waiting for somebody to call me out because a I like to sing. I’m not saying I’m good, but I do like to sing. and B, everybody else was singing their five song and they kind of sucked. So he’s like, “Yeah, Rrook, get up there and dance.” And I, of course, I’m like, “No, no, no, you don’t want to hear me.” And then I was like, “All right.” And I did like a whole It was It was good, man. So like a Catalina [ __ ] wine mixer. That’s right. Yeah. It was um It was fun to go through like like go I went back in time and I was reliving some of the rookie skits and some of the things. And I’ll never forget my rookie year, we did uh uh Patriots uh Jeopardy and then Patriots Who Wants to be a Millionaire or something like that. And we had some great questions and that and we and man we we got on the coaches, we got on the players. I remember we had some of our rookies were Tai and lawyer Malloy and those conversations between those two were legendary man that [ __ ] man you know just you know phone a friend and it’s it’s Tai calling lawyer. I mean, we had so much fun back in the day with the rookie skits, and I think for some reason the outside world got a bad taste of like, oh, it’s hazing or whatever. It was never that in my eyes. And and and honestly, on all the teams I played on, we actually had fun. It brought us closer together and it it kind of forced us to get to know the guys on the team, right? And I think that’s always been the intent. I think there’s, you know, I’ve heard stories of guys that kind of took it the wrong way or or got upset about it or whatever, but I would think it’s a great tool, man. Yeah. I I mean, it’s it’s it’s something to be embarrassed that like I remember being so nervous for doing my I just did the fight song, got booed off, did a couple things where I was Welker and and Tom, but that sense of embarrassment in front of the guys, that’s definitely like you need to feel that. You need to feel that because it after you felt it, you guys, it kind of brings you together. It makes you more comfortable in the long run with them as well in the locker room. See, we did the Jeopardy and they hated it. They hated it. Yes. It still lives. So, so what what are do you remember some of your all-time favorite? Yeah, we had we had Or was elite. Uh, we just told him to go improv and he remember he brought the whiteboard out and told the Joe Paw story and and illustrated it and had the whole team storytelling ability. Unbelievable. And then we also made a video. You remember when we made the video of your Soie commercial when you guys were in all white ballerina things? Terrible was doing that with his big ass gut. It was pretty. Those are some that was classic. Who’s been the best on yours so far? Will the best rookie? Can anyone sing, dance? I’d say Jeremiah Webb. Jeremiah Webb. Why? What do he do? He’s just funny. He’s just kind of position receiver. Uh Ves loves him, you know. He always goes to him for the good jokes. Uh I I would definitely say he’s the best one so far. A jokester. Yeah, he’s definitely got a lot of Gets everyone laughing for sure. He just goes up there and people start laughing. It’s good. That was Orberger. Or so so was so great. So I, you know, another thing I have to know is like how often do y’all laugh like crazy at stuff Vel does cuz that that son of a gun is one of the funnier guys out there. I mean, he has an edge to him. He’s always had an edge. He’s the boss, though. He’s the boss. But there there have to be times where he says something, I don’t know, something. Yeah. He’ll say some stuff and everybody will laugh and then he’ll say some stuff where it’ll be crickets and he’ll be like, “Guys, that was a joke.” And then nobody will laugh. But it kind of just varies back and forth. But he does say some interesting stuff. So I’ I’ve said this before, but literally it’s one of my favorite Varelable moments of all time. Vrabel’s in my hometown for a charity event for the foundation early early on like 2003 2004 and Vrabel listens to my mayor say some proclamation about making it Matt light day in my little you know podunk hometown right and when he does that he messes up the word metriculate like horribly horribly like he’s clearly reading a proclamation that he didn’t write and when he says it he’s like he stumbles over it like four or five times times and and then finally gets through it. Well, an hour, two hours later, we’re doing the auction and it’s a stag night. So, it’s all guys in this VFW hall, small town USA. And the guy who is is our auctioneer is trying to sell this item and Vel gets up and I’m like, “Oh, shoot. This is going to be something.” Grabs the mic from this dude and he’s like, “Hey, listen. If y’all don’t start spending some real money, that’s what we’re here for. if y’all don’t start spending some real money, I’m going to get the mayor up here and I’m going to pay him $10,000 if he can spell metriculate. And I remember falling out of my chair. And I’m just thinking, this is awkward. This is uncomfortable. That’s my guy, though. It was great. Well, do you think you’ll eat [ __ ] for doing this interview and uh telling the world that Varel’s half of his jokes suck? But you got Light to back you up. Like you can be like, “Yo, I was like, that’s not going to help.” Why not? Aren’t you like good friends with Varelable? Well, I mean, I mean, you have said he’s, you know, he’s an [ __ ] like 20 times since he’s been the head coach, but u beautiful [ __ ] right? He’s our our jerk. Yeah. But you What do you think? You think he’s going to come at you for this? Yeah, he definitely will. Uh but it’s just part of it. Yeah, I like that, man. Yeah, it’s just part of it. Uh I’ll be prepared for it tomorrow. Yeah. Well, you already whooped his ass in the pre-draft process, didn’t you? Didn’t you Can you explain what happened? Did he try to like what? Put the pads on and you know, did he put on come to your proadon? He did not put pads on. He he actually had he had so we had a private like the little workout the week before the draft and uh you know they all come in and it was me and one of my other teammates Miles Frasier and we get there an hour early and set up a bunch of you know pads for him and all the O line coaches to use. And here he comes. I’m looking through the indoor down the hallway and he’s walking in and he’s got his he brought his own pad and I was like, “All right, so I guess we don’t need any of that.” And he took every single rep I think in that whole entire hour, hour and a half workout. We had his shirt ripped. He had to go get new clothes for equipment. But yeah, I might have got the best of them on one of them. Mhm. Now, when you hear that story, what do you think, Matt? Yeah. Oh. Oh. Immediately I I go back to the fact that we would get done with like a grueling like and and and and again I’m not trying to, you know, degrade what you guys do today, but back in the day like when we practice it was legit. Like it was full pads every day uphill, no shoes in the snow, like crazy. Rael would come back in and almost always go get on the treadmill and run like another 30 miles cuz he’s like a a freak of nature when it comes to energy and everything else. And here and and I have a theory on this one too. And I I know you’ve seen him, you know, like lightly clothed, right? Let’s just say like cruising. Not because it’s weird. All right. It’s locker room. It’s just a locker room, right? So, and uh you’ve seen the amount of hair on that man, right? He’s like a like a chinchilla, a Chewbacca. Yes. He’s like fully to the point of, by the way, news flash, one of the greatest outfits I’ve ever seen for Halloween, Vel did. And I’m gonna tell you, hats off to him. He shaved his arms down like this. He then shaved around his neck and came down and then shaved a circle. A circle and his belly button was the last one. He was wearing his own cardigan and it was unbelievable. Now, I know you just pictured that, right? I did. And you know how white you are when you have that much hair. It doesn’t even matter if you’ve been outside all your life. It was the the greatest contrast but personal contrast that you could ever have. So I think all that hair somehow people with a lot of hair tend to have a lot of energy. But you’re telling me that when he was up against you, he was coming like he was he was bringing it. Yeah. I mean we were going uh full speed. I mean, obviously we didn’t have helmets or anything on. Uh, but yeah, we were working backside cut offs and uh, did he stretch before? Uh, just get right into it. He kind of just walked. I think he’s freaky like that. He don’t even You got to give him credit to be able to do that for an hour straight going against a young buck like you who’s powerful, ready to go at all time. Rabel’s an absolute savage and beast for doing that, man. That’s different. He’s different. Will, could he still plays? Could do you think he got a play in him? Definitely. Like, Matt, do you think he got a play in him? I’m not saying he could get a sack in four plays, but he could definitely go out there. He’s hold like he makes the running back go the other way. Every practice, every position’s indie drill, doing the drills, holding the bags. I mean, during OTAAS, he’s out there after practice. We would condition. And he’s running gassers with the skill guys. I’m like, this dude’s a maniac. And by the way, think about all the injuries. Like my one knee, you know, I complain about all this little stuff, you know, and that dude’s never stopped. No, not at all. If you don’t, nothing ever holds him back. Oh [ __ ] I wish I had that stamina still. And like you played against some Well, because you you played against him in practice all the time and being his teammate. Like what kind of player was he? Obviously at the linebacker position, you probably went one-on-one versus him a couple times and smacked smacked each other at the line of scrimmage. like was he a fierce competitor? How strong was Rael in in his prime prime? Yeah. And I can go all the way back to uh my freshman year at Purdue, right? I I was starting a tight end. Tight end. You play tight end college? Yeah. Look, you never told me this. I was talking about your rain ability. I don’t know why where you know you know the one stat that you just don’t Well, exactly. Right. Yeah. Like at at no point did you think athletic until right now. Mh. Now you’re like, “Oh, maybe there’s an athlete hiding in there.” How many couches did you have? Uh, one. Really? They threw the ball to me once. How many yards? 100%. 19 yards and a first down. Ran over Charles Woodson, Michigan 1996. Listen, I’m not saying that I remember all the details, but four yards. Well, thank you. Yeah. Um, no. I Hey, look, I can tell you I I remember playing against him uh when he was at Ohio State and he had, you know, Finus and Vay. I mean, they had such a great defensive line back then and they had an edge. So, the same way that I got to know him as a teammate, you know, that preceded him all the way back to the college days at Ohio State where those guys went hard, man. They had fun, they they got after it, but when they were on the field, man, it was everything. And I think that kind of defines that era, right? A lot of the guys that we played with, man, back in the day, they had the ability to have a great time off the field, but when we were on the field, man, it was nothing but doing everything we could do to be the best team we could be. And that’s a rare like now I think guys have a hard time. It’s, you know, it’s it’s a I’ve seen guys go over the edge, party way too much, have way too much fun, right? We’ve all seen that. You’re looking at We’ve all been there. Yeah, we’ve all We’ve all been there. You got to learn from that situation though when that happens. Like, oh [ __ ] I party too hard. Maybe I got to take off, you know, the next time maybe just go to bed. Uh, but I’ve been there before. But it’s a great balance when you know how to party with your teammates and then go back out on the football field and just absolute dominate together. It’s it brings you it brings you that like energy like, okay, we’re friends off the field, we bond off the field, we’re going to kick some ass now on the field as well. So, and I think Vrabel was like one of the one of the the kingpins of that, right? Like that dude knew how to have a good time. He was always busting people’s chops. He was always pissing off Tommy in practice, right? Like I mean it but it was good. It It wasn’t like I’m just pissing him off to piss him off. It was like I’m going to get under his skin and I’m going to try to rattle him a little bit in practice on a regular like like it was he was that guy. But I think, you know, the tools that he brought, you know, was he was a smart smart football player. So, he’s going to be in the right position. He’s going to make the right, you know, reads and he’s going to react, you know, appropriately. And he had enough of that, you know, I’m I want to bury you in the dirt mentality that he’s going to get under your skin, man. And that was his that was his thing. Now, do you see co does coach try to play those mental games with guys in practice or on the field to try to like try to prepare him for a really freaking crazy situation or some absurd like get under this guy’s skin, try to get him all hot and heavy like having a coach like that. Has he tried that with you guys at all? Yeah, I mean he he definitely will push your buttons just to kind of see how you react. I mean, like, he’s not I think, you know, you can talk crap to him and he’s not going to just be quiet. He’s going to come back at you. He always talks about it. He loves to talk [ __ ] more than anybody and he’ll do it with anybody. So, it’s it’s cool to have for sure. Now, that’s why Light’s still scared of him. Hey, by the way, he That was an evil laugh, by the way. That was an evil laugh. All right. He’s like you’ve been seeing over training camp like he’s getting in the trenches. He’s break he’s breaking up fights. How does that set the tone for like you players? Like do you guys think it’s more beneficial he’s doing that because he’s getting in the mix or is it like coach come on we got this. Like we can break up the fight. We’re fighting. We’re we we’re going to handle this. Yeah. I mean I think I think it’s pretty cool because you know most guys would just stand there. We obviously you know probably don’t need help. Uh, and you know, we were messing I was messing with him and he was messing with me about it. Uh, the one in Washington, we were arguing who got to the pile first and I was like, “The reason your face scratched is because my face mask, you jumped on me.” But no, it’s it’s been cool. Uh, but yeah, he he understands how important the trenches are, and I think, you know, that’s something that he really emphasizes. Uh, and like I said, that’s where the game is won up there. Yeah. Must be pretty cool, too, as well to know that you have a head coach that can probably whoop all 31 other NFL head coaches asses besides there’s Dan Campbell, Detroit Lions. I think that would be an absolute battle. Like, who would give him like who would give Vable, you know, some some struggles in a fight 30? I know you don’t watch the league that much. I don’t. But I think um you’re going to have to look at some of these assistant coaches too because like the head coaches. Okay. Yeah. I would I would go out on a limb and say that he’s going to whoop up on all the head coaches. Even even Dan Campbell. I think so. Yeah. I mean Rabel Rael isn’t going to fight fair by the way. He’s got he’s going to have something. He’s got the loose screw. He’s going and Dan Campbell has the juice but he doesn’t have the stamina like I don’t think so. Guy drinks like 800 millig. Like how much hair does he have on his body? Probably not much. And Dan Camp. And speaking of Dan Campbell related to you at all, well, no, he is not. That would have been pretty cool. Yeah. What were you going to say though, Mike? Yeah. No, I I think uh I think some of these Yeah. Look, I think Braves is uh I think he he would he would hold his own anywhere and I think it would be a lot of fun. I just want to know like what’s going to happen when it’s like when something like that happens in a real situation. You think he’s still going to go out there? I mean, that’s the question I have. In a g in a real game, if a if we do have like a serious brawl that breaks out, no shot. Is he Is he throwing the head sets off? No. No shot. Cuz that would be kind of stupid cuz I’m pretty sure that’s uh penalty. Yeah, penalty. 15 yard penalty. So, that’s just hurting that’s hurting the team there. He’s not going to do that. No. No, that don’t make sense. Training camp’s different. Practice. Practice is different. Yes. Yeah. Now, Will, can you talk to us about wearing number seven? And I never seen a lineman wear number seven in my life at LSU. Yeah. So, actually, I was the first one to ever get seven as offensive lineman at LSU. Uh, I was honestly like shocked whenever I got it, you know, going into my sophomore year. How did that happen? Did you ask for or they were like, “Yo, we love you, Will. You can wear number seven.” So, every last practice before, you know, you finish training camp and you’re about to move into game prep, they do, you know, the announcement of 7 and 18 at LSU. And I was honestly sitting in the back just like this, this isn’t going to be me. I play O line. And he called my name and showed the, you know, seven jersey with my last name on. And it was honestly just like a surreal feeling. Uh because whenever you’re a young kid in Louisiana, you grow up watching LSU, all the players that you know you’re imitating in the front yard whenever you’re playing pickup football war number seven at LSU. I was telling Julian earlier outside of my bedroom at my parents house, my uh my school pictures are in a LSU number seven jersey. So, you know, for that to happen, it was super cool. And so is that like the is that like a famous number there? I don’t know LSU history. Is that like the dude at LSU always wears seven? Yeah. So Patrick Peterson started it. Uh and it went from Patrick Peterson to Tyron Matthew, Jamar Chase, Derek Stingley, you know, they I guess you could say that. Yeah. So you’re the first non-skll player to wear number seven. That’s a big deal. You’re a special player, though. LSU loves you. Can we stop with that terminology? What’s that? I mean it’s it is condescending. It’s condescending what to say we don’t have skills. I mean I know I know what you intended it to be. Yeah, but it’s it’s it it is a slap in the face. By the way, do you know that? Well, then what what shall we say? Skilled player. Oh, we can be a skilled player. A skill large. A large scale. Oh, so you’re the first large scale player to wear number seven over 300. Thank you. Yeah. First Yeah. There we go. You see the difference though? Do you see the difference in the connotation? Like I I would have had a hard time like even responding to that. You know what I mean? Like I’m not going to like look I have no problem. I I call you a skilled player cuz I’ I’ve been around you. I know you’re skilled. Like I I would feel like you would just throw us the same just decent decency. I would call I would call you a skilled player, Matt. Thank you. I would. You’re very skilled off the field. Thank you. On a lot of things you do. Yeah. I work hard, man. And I appreciate that. Yep. I Hey, I do have an award at home. What what’s this award? And it was it was an ESPN thing and they and they mailed it. I mean, they didn’t even say anything about it, but there’s probably a reason because on it, it literally says it’s like in recognition for being a non-skilled, nonQB, non like it’s basically everything that isn’t like really awesome. That’s what you are. And that was what the award is. I swear I’m going to send you pictures of this. They changed to the protector of the year now. It’s the protector. Maybe maybe that was their intent. I highly doubt it. But at the time, I remember I got it and I was like, “Oh, it’s cool.” It’s got a big gold football with a cool like, you know, I don’t know, walnut base and this big giant plaque. And the only reason it’s a giant plaque is they had to say, “Here’s all the things you aren’t.” And these are all the things that people find cool, but that’s you. Mhm. And I remember thinking this is this is un I thought it was a joke because, you know, always busting chops. And I’m like, “Somebody sent me this. That took a lot of effort. I I but then I found out No, Stacy James. Stacy’s like, “No, that’s that that’s a real thing.” Like the SC So somebody sent you that? Yeah. It was from an actual word. Yes. And it said not non QB. Yeah. It it And I wish I had I wish I still had the exact verbiage cuz the minute you saw it, you’d be dying laughing like, “Yep, that’s you.” I didn’t get it from ESPN. I got this thing though somebody sent to my locker during OTAAS and I just thought it was funny. So, I’m I get there and I’m about to work out and I had this little package and I open up and you know the fans some fans will send you mail and stuff and it had a return address on it and I open it and they sent a plastic T-Rex to to my locker and they said, “Can will can you please sign this for me?” And I took a picture of it. I sent it to my parents. I was just like, “This is so funny.” But that is Did you sign it? No. What you should do? You should put that thing up in that locker and after you guys get some good ass plays when you’re doing your media arms. It’s a red and blue T-Rex. I kept it in my locker, but I just thought that was like the gargoyle I used to have in the locker. Gargoyle from So great. Or you know, he put a actual live duck in somebody’s locker in that locker room. Well, Donald’s locker. I mean, I wouldn’t have put in Jeff’s locker. Donald the duck. He literally put a real duck when we came in from practice. He he put it in the the where the cleats go, you know, and you let I don’t know, they have the pull outs now. And I saved that duck’s life, by the way. I bought it from a butchery on Atwells Avenue in Providence. It was like a legit old school butchery and it’s like grandfathered in. And I walked in there and it terrible smells, man. All kind of different birds and whatnot. And I was like, “You guys got a duck?” And he’s like, “Oh, yeah. What kind of duck you want?” And he brings it out and he’s about ready to chop the head off it. And I’m like, “No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Leave that duck alone. I’m taking him home.” Didn’t Nate Soldier like keep that duck? I think it’s I gotta take this call real quick. We’ll be back. Just pause real quick. Is that all right? Is it the president? You know him. You love him. The big guy with the red tie is back in the allnew Donkey Kong Bonanza game on Nintendo Switch 2 system. 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But Jaden Daniels, Jaden Daniels, electric. Electric. Yes. You ever meet Burrow? Uh, no. I haven’t met him. You haven’t met him? How is that? Hey, Jaden D. They had Burrow and then they have Jaden Daniels who’s ar he’s had the best rookie football season for a quarterback in the history of the game. And now you’re going to Drake May. Yes, I’ve been very fortunate to play with some talented quarterbacks. I mean, my first two years I mean, yeah, my first two years at LSU, I played with Jaden. last year played with NUS, who’s going to have a heck of a year this year. He’ll be a guy that goes pretty high. Uh it’s actually my girlfriend’s brother. Oh, wow. That’s called a breeder. Yeah. Uh that’s called a breeder there, boys. Uh they start off with Clemson, so I’m excited to watch him light them up. Is there any similarities between Drake and Daniels? there is in the way that I think they’re both very poised. I haven’t really got to play in a like full game environment with Drake yet, but just from what I’ve seen so far in a couple preseason snaps and you know in practice, he’s very poised. Uh and he doesn’t flinch. That’s something that Jaden never did. Like it didn’t matter if it was the first play or if it was the last play to win the game. It was just steady. It wasn’t up and down emotion. Uh, but I’m gonna need I think they’re both very talented. They both play very different styles of football, but they’re both two heck of quarterbacks. What What leadership skills has Drake displayed in camp? He’s uh he’s a great vocal leader. I think you know just Braves pushes him for sure to you know just become like the leader of the team and you know I think whenever Braves play with Tom you y’all has such a good example of a quarterback you know leading and I think that’s what you know he wants for us and you know Drake’s definitely growing each and every day and you can see him doing that and guys you know looking to him but at the end of the day he we move as he moves and you know we know that and he knows that so He’s done a great job though, just commanding the offense, getting us all on the same page, and I’m excited for it. Like, what were the young characteristics of Tom Brady when he was coming in after Bledos got hospitalized by the Jets? Like, what were these young characteristics of Tommy? I think, you know, going back, I mean, we had Michael Bishop was in between, you know, Tommy as the third and and Bledsoe, right? And um you know, Bishop was was unique in in terms of you know, his skill sets and what he could do. And Tommy was kind of, you know, the guy that would get a few reps here and there and you know, you you’d see him, but you always you you knew he was always mentally prepared, you know, like you knew that he was he was knowledgeable, that um he was going to make good decisions just cuz you know, the his work ethic and what he put into it. Now, all that went up a whole another level, you know, once he got the nod. But, um, you know, I think I think early on the thing that surprised all of us. And you got to remember, I mean, I didn’t know if the ball was pumped or stuffed at that point, right? I mean, like, as Dante would say, like, Light, you’re the worst, you know, mother effing, you know, like like I was always getting dog cussed cuz I had no idea what I was doing. Yeah. And so, you know, week two, you know, Mo Lewis literally severs an artery in the chest of of BledSoe and he almost bled out and like the whole team is like and and our our quarterback coach had passed away during training camp. I mean, it was it was a crazy year, man. It was a lot of ups and downs. 911, I mean, all these things converge. And now we’ve got a quarterback who most of us thought Bishop was going to be stepping in, right? And no, like Bill gave this young dude the nod. And I remember to look, we were both in the Big 10 at the same time. I’d never heard his name, you know, like, and I’m not trying to be disrespectful. I just mean like, you know, Tommy wasn’t like the guy, right? And so now he’s stepping in. But the thing that always struck me was it never felt like you were with a guy starting for the first time, you know, and even the ups and downs, like the early part of that, you know, his first four, five, six games, it was like a roller coaster, but then we went on that run after Thanksgiving and and by that point, right, which is mere weeks into his, you know, reign as as the as the guy. It was an old it was old for him, man. He he he knew how to lead. He knew how to be the guy. He knew that people were looking to him and everything he did corresponded with what a leader would do, you know. And by the way, you know, the name you didn’t and I didn’t have to look this up, but um didn’t say a word about my man Kay Faulk. Kevin Faulk. I mean I mean now now listener leader. So I put it this way. Whenever I do something like that, like it’s the guys you played with. No, it’s the guys that I’ve seen play. Yeah. Yeah. I’m with you. I respect that. I honestly never like watched a Witworth game live, but just we grew up in the same hometown. So like whenever I started playing O line, that’s somebody who I looked up to. So that’s how I’ve watched his game. But like the other guys, I’ve had to watch those with my eyes cuz I’m not going back to watch the vintage film. Really vintage at that point. Did you ever meet Kay Fog? He came through the locker room probably quite well. He was coaching there. Oh, that’s right. And uh so whenever he was coaching, I was in high school, so he was recruiting me and stuff like he’s a great dude. Awesome dude. Thanks, man. He’s great. Well, Mr. Mount Rushmore over here, who’s the Mount Rushmore of Purdue then? Well, I mean I mean, listen, if you if if if he was here, Minkovic would say he’s at the top, clearly. I mean, and then he would go on about how chiseled his abs are and how he’d look good on Mount Rushmore. Get out of here. You ain’t got no abs or hair for that matter. Do not look. Well, he does now. Don’t say that. He’s going to start crying if he hears this. He did he did the commercials. Get get a hold of Dr. Ley. I mean, whatever it was. I don’t even know who it was, but it sounds right. Um, you know, every time I call him, he’s like a world of investing. I’m like, all right. Hey, Rob. Yeah. No, I got you. Thank you. You son of a gun. Uh, no, but I mean, Ninkovich did have a hell of a career. And uh obviously Breeze now now see unlike you, you know, I I struggled to raise up quarterbacks around me just to be good enough to be competitive cuz the only guys I had since high school were Breeze and Brady. So clearly I didn’t have the the the sweetheart ride that you had with these great quarterbacks. I had to work really hard to get these guys in shape. You know what I mean? I’m like pronate the wrist, Tommy. Can we thumb down? Can we Gy Chris the feet right? What are we doing? Are we Are we stuck in mud? C. Can we get the C? Remember he always You see the C? It’s got to be a C. Hold on. Hold on a second. Here’s my favorite. He would stand like this all weird standing and he would go. Yeah. Dak Prescott. He’d work his little hip. He wants to And then you see him throw the towel. I know that was a dance move. I you know everything. Wasn’t a good dance move. Wasn’t a good Well, have you ever seen him dance? I’m just saying. No. Um, yeah, but um I would say, you know, Purdue is an interesting place, man. Like looking back on it, you know, there were um there were guys that that were like the OGs that stuck around Purdue in one way or another, like Leroy Keys, you know, he was there when they went on their Rose Bowl run back in, I think, 67. And Leroy was a guy that and and and it was good to have some of those old school guys. Like I don’t know how often you guys would have like some of the the greats that had passed through the the old even came to Kent State once. I don’t know. No big deal. Went to Kent, played DB there. Lou Holtz, what’s up, dude? Oh, hey Luke. Yeah, we had him, too. I think he played corner 40 or something. Yeah. It’s weird the history you don’t know. Yeah. Yeah. No big deal. Just they they call it the Harvard of the Midwest, Kent State, do they? No, they really don’t. So, we got Leroy Keys. He’s in there. 68 67. We got Breeze. Yeah, we got Breeze. Breeze. Um, there’s a fullback that came out of the [ __ ] Revolution. I don’t know. Hey, hey, by the way, that’s that’s the first thing that I got shown. So, he was leaving Purdue when I came in. Who? All that guy. That guy. The A train. A train. I remember him dragging Jeeps through the parking lot with the parking brake on and that guy was a man, man. When you watch his highlights, the things he did to people ran angry. How And by the way, you see him today. I mean, the guy’s like, he’s in great shape. I mean, skinny. Like, you’d have no idea that he was twice that size. Good man. The A train. Yeah, he’s in there. And then who’s the last one? How many are we going for? Like seven. Isn’t there four? You’re You’re a historian. We got to do We got to do four. Oh, that’s a lot. Haven’t you? Um, you know what, man? put put Rosie Kovven in there because uh Rosie was an interesting so it was it was Choke Kefir and Roosevelt Kovven holding down the defensive end spots and uh and really man that defense because of those two primarily they were the catalyst you know they they they got us through a lot of tough matchups in the Big 10. Rosie was a Rosie was a gamer too. Rosie almost ended the game that we played when the when the Patriots went to Chicago when they were redoing the stadium. We played at Illinois Stadium. Yeah. And Rosie, it was like one of the last drives of the game and in the in the lead was changing back and forth like crazy. And I remember it was like third down and I think this pass went to Troy Brown if I remember correctly. And it was a sweet pass. But Roosevelt’s hand was this far from knocking the ball out of Tommy cuz he skinned the edge on me and I just opened the gate and was trying to just and I remember the last push and I could see his hands swiping and I was shocked that the ball got off and and we scored and the game over. Oh, it was awesome. I was glad when he came to us, man, cuz he and I did a lot of practice, so we knew each other very well and he was setting me up all game for that. He was. And he got me. I mean, he got me. Tommy just stepped up enough. You know, Tommy had that ability, man. I think that’s one of the things that, you know, if you’re a left tackle, if you’re blessed to have a guy who has eyes in the back of his head and somehow can just sense that pressure and make you look really good, it’s a big deal. And it’s not even a lot for that pocket presence. It’s literally maybe just that one slide step, one step up, step up, go back to the right, let the guy run the hump. I mean that that is something that’s overlooked so much, right? Well, and then if you’re the spectator, right, you’re looking at it going, I mean, why, you know, why did he throw to him or why did he do this? Why did he do that? It’s like, well, go back and watch. I mean, if that dude didn’t get rid of the ball right when he did, dead. It was a bad situation, you know, not not just him getting hit. It’s probably a turnover. It’s a defle, you know what I mean? As Vaves calls it, the kitty cats are coming. The kitty cats are coming. I like it. Sponsored by Row. You know, football players are always ready, whether it’s game time or other times. That’s the idea behind Row Sparks, a prescription treatment that’s built to help you be your best when it counts the most. See if you qualify at row.co/sparks. Rose Sparks features a dualaction formula that includes toafil. Basically, you’re getting the good stuff. 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But if you weren’t late, we would have been able to finish before it would have been that extra six minutes we needed, you know. Yeah. I tell you there’s some decent deer back there, too, man. I mean, I’m not going to say that. It’s crazy, but it’s not bad. You guys are talking about hunting. Are you a hunter? Mhm. My dad’s a farmer, so like that’s kind of like what I grew up doing. First time I ever went hunting was with Matt Light. We shot the pheasant and then he had this insane chef I think on the property grounds where the shootout takes place. Make this pheasant pizza. Yeah. It’s [ __ ] crazy. I don’t like like gy [ __ ] I’m I’m really not a fan of it. But if you got guys that know how to cook it, like Matt always had guys that knew how to cook the crazy [ __ ] that we would kill. But that’s Hey, but by the way, that’s what we need to do, man. I need to get you all down and I’ll I’ll do a full butchering demo and break down a carcass and then serve what we break down. It’ll blow your mind, man, when you see it go from I don’t know if I can see Bambi go down, dog. Bambi. Bami. No, you’re not going to see it get shot. You’ll just see it go from the cool room already hanging. It’s been hanging for 3 weeks, right? And then drag it out and then break it down into all the cuts like T-bones. I got I got a band saw. So, we can put everything through the full butchery process and then we’ll eat it and it’ll blow your mind. Man, the first time I went hunting, too, was about a year and a half ago was with Matt Light. And he’s like, “I’ll pick you up at 4:00 a.m.” And I’m like, “400 a.m.? I never been up that early in my life.” But let me tell you, man, it was a like a calming experience to be up at that time and just, you know, searching for some deer in the woods and just have it like where you can just hear crickets cricketing all over the place. So, I appreciate that experience, man. That was the first time I saw your dog Tech, you know, get into action. It was his first time getting into action and my first time getting into action as well. And it was a really cool experience. You got to appreciate the love for the support when he when he jumped on the back of that deer. I remember looking at you and it’s like and I remember Rob’s like, “We could go save your dog.” And I’m like, “I’m not going anywhere near that.” Like like I don’t I don’t want anything to do with that. I just hope it goes down right. So the dog jumps on him when he’s kind of like and then gets him down, wrestles him. it. The deer went oneon-one. Like it got up. I mean, it was wounded a little bit with a shot in its back leg, but it was oneon-one. Like they were face to face and the deer went after Tech. I was like, “Do your your dog about to be gone.” Tech made like a juke that you would make, Julian. I was like, “Oh [ __ ] Tech, he got he got me going. He got like he got the chills in my body going.” I was like, “Oh.” And then Tech went around the deer and then jumped on the deer’s back and took down the deer and finished the job. Yeah, it was pretty cool. It’s honestly probably one of the greatest, as you know, like watching an animal do what it’s designed to do. Like if you have a pointer and that dog goes locks up full point with a pheasant right in front of it and you’re just like that’s amazing. You know, it’s just cool to watch your your animal that hangs out with you and lives in your home and part of your family doing what it does. Well, and and also what I appreciate of Matt like what with the hunting all that and people some people are against, you know, hunting, some are for hunting, but you use every part of the animal as well, which is cool. I mean, that’s what Yeah, I ate it. Uh, your dog had some liver, like some like real life liver right there, right from King, baby. I was like, dang, no wonder why Tech is such a beast. He eats mainly raw. So, I save all the trimming stuff that you would I don’t want to say throw away because even that stuff I would put out in the woods, you know, fertilizer to go back or for animals to, you know, utilize. But, um, man, tech Tech eats a lot of But that’s what dogs do, right? Like, if you think about it, they don’t typically go out in the woods and find kibble. No. You know, it’s Well, my dog I have a um Australian Labradoodle and uh he’s very cuddly. Yeah. scared of his shadow and um and he loves the rug on the way in. He loves the rug. His favorite, you know, it’s it’s just rug. Sensitive is the word. I was scared of my dog Ralphie to be around your dog. But then when I saw the sense of control that you have of tech, I wasn’t worried anymore about Ralphie being around cuz you can control your dog like I never seen someone control their dog before. Like you got like an it factor with a savage almost and Ralphy’s a he was causing problems with Tech. I’m like I’m like Ralphie like chill out. Like you have no clue what Tech can do and what I just saw Tech do but like I’m like Matt is like okay like Ralphiey’s like kind of throwing shots cuz Ralphy’s a French bulldog. He thinks he’s bigger than any dog out there whenever he meets a big dog. I’m like is that like okay? And he’s the Julian of dogs. Exactly. And Light’s like if I’m calm tech is calm. you don’t have anything to worry about. It is amazing, man. You think about like that that connection with with your animals, right? And everybody everybody has it in different degrees. And I’m a big fan of like those dogs feed off your energy, right? So, if I’m thinking, hey, take it easy, be calm, the dog’s going to, you know, sense what I’m sensing, right? I think it’s pretty cool. I mean, I’ve I’ve always admired the people who spend ridiculous amounts of time with animals to get to know them. even naturalists, people that go out and just study deer in the woods or or or turkey biologist or whatever. You know, when you have that connection and you’ve spent that much time to earn the trust of something that’s truly wild, it’s pretty awesome the things that you can learn. I mean, that’s what I actually enjoy the most about being an outdoorsman is that I mean, most of my time alls I am I’m no different than a burer. I’m sitting or walking through the woods just observing what naturally occurs. Now, if I get an opportunity to harvest something and and I only harvest things that I can eat, then cool. That’s great, you know. But that’s not the not the gist. Can you harvest about the time you went hunting at Gillette Stadium? Oh, yeah. And is that true? Did you really do that? A lot of hunting. Yeah. Yeah. M matter of fact, I did go to Mr. Craft early on and and I asked Robert, I said, “Man, is it okay if I go back here? You know, there’s a there’s a pond.” And I was kind of explaining the area. And he’s like, you know, hey, look, I’ve never been back there, but you know, we never talked about this. Have fun. Yeah. And I’m like, really? Like, you’re going to let me go back here? And man, I used to fish that there’s that little pond behind the bubble and and then it backs up to the Lton’s farm and, you know, it’s just this cool area and it’s right there, right? And until, you know, Briggs got mad at me and Oh, Briggs tried shutting me down. I mean, I was having a great time. When Briggs got mad at you, like what was that like? Did he flip out on you? Did he give you a call? Did he come up to you in person like while you were hunting? What’s that story like? Cuz I got a story where Briggs flipped out on me before and it was vicious. He’s intense. Oh, it was intense. Like legit. Well, we were on the road for those backtoback West Coast trip games and it was the first leg of it and that’s when this girl had stolen some money from us and I put, you know, Briggs was like, “Hey, we got it.” And then they messed it all up. Not Briggs directly, but I’m like telling Briggs, they mess it up, but I think he took it as in you messed it up and then it was like fullon confrontation. I remember I remember Coach Bellich coming out cuz we were in a hotel, right? Like and we’re in this one little area where most everybody’s, you know, traveling through common area and Yeah. And he’s like, “What the is going on here?” You know, like he’s just disgusted with this yelling and stupidity. And I remember looking at him, I said, “I’m gonna whoop this dude,” you know, and he’s like, “Get in the, you know, damn meeting room.” And ever since then, man, it was it was And now we we made up. I I gave him back his gargoyle. I uh he stole the gargoyle from his house and put it in his locker that he walked by every day. Briggs, right in front of Briggs. Cuz we were filming a commercial with Russ Hogstein and they were using his house cuz Mr. Craft owned that house, right, the back entrance. And uh yeah, I mean we had a lot of fun with Briggs, but the hunting behind the stadium was was legendary, you know, but it to your point, I mean, you know, most people don’t realize this, like Foxboro is in a very rural area comparatively, right? Like most of these stadiums, you know, like I guess Buffalo would be somewhat like it out there in Orchard Park, Green Bay for sure. Um that’s pretty that’s that’s it. Yeah. I don’t know that there’s Minnie in the sticks, right? All right. All right, Matt, we know you can talk all day about hunting. I want to know about Will. What will you be hunting at Gillette Stadium this year? Or will you be hunting? Or will you be? I can I can tell you one I definitely one creature you’ll be going after. Yeah, I definitely will. Defensive ends. Yeah, linebackers. I’m going to try to get him to take me turkey hunting out there, though. Probably can’t have any weapons on the grounds anymore because of Matt Light. I think it’s actually been posted every uh every time we went over the rules and regulations every year before training camp. It was no weapons and I believe coach Bichc would look at Matt Light and say crossbows, bow and arrows, anything, knives. Braves. Actually, that was like one of the first things he told me whenever like we’re going through the pre-draft process. It’s like, you know, if we end up getting you up there, you can’t bring any of your guns or anything like that up here. Like, they don’t play about that type of stuff up here. And I’m like, okay. Like, well, it’s an NFL rule as well. You can’t bring guns onto the He was just talking about Massachusetts in general. Yeah. No, it’s you don’t want them cross state lines. Well, just call Matt Light if you need anything. We got you. Matt can get you registered. But if you do if I do happen to catch you on one of my cameras, we’re going to have a conversation. But you’re Well, you’re the only one who hasn’t gone hunting with Matt, so you got to try it out. I mean, it’s an experience. And I’m telling you, he’s the best of the best in the hunting world. If if it’s not in Rhode Island, it’s anywhere in the world. You know, he has been hunting and and just dominated his craft. So, if you ever do, just give Matt Light a call and uh he’ll show you a great time, an unbelievable experience. All right, let’s wrap this up and let’s get here. Let’s let’s get on to what we came here for. Mhm. Let’s get into the chillest dude of the week brought to you by our favorite beer, Kors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit corslite.com/dudes and always celebrate responsibility. And the chillst dudes of the week are Matt Light and Will Campbell. We thank you guys for being here. Now give us that Coors Light so we can crack it. And Will, you’re in season right now. So you don’t have to crack a Coors Light, but we got Matt Light here. We’re all retired. You’re not. You’re the Young Bucks. So we’re going to crack an extra beer for you, brother. And we have a series of patent questions that we patented. We had our patent lawyers go after it and to determine quick hitters. Really quick hitters. We’ll ask both of you guys. you guys both answer uh and we will determine what kind of dude you guys are with these patent questions. I’ll start it off easy first. All right, Matt, one second. There it is. Mhm. Um Matt and Will, do you guys wear flip-flops in the shower? Nope. No. No. Athletes foot. Warts. Never. I’ve actually never had athletes foot. I bet you haven’t either. No. Okay. Build up an immunity. Never had athletes foot. Next question. All right. Who’s the most famous person in your guys’ phone for you, Matt? It can’t be Tom Brad. It could not be Tom or Drew Brees. Most famous. How or Drew Blatzo. How do you rate How do you rate this? Who’s famous? I don’t know. You tell us. It’s It’s Whatever your perception on, Matt. These aren’t hard-hitting questions. I I’ll tell you I’ll tell you with a famous guy I was just with over the weekend. Put on a hell of a show. Mr. Aaron Lewis. Aaron Lewis. Good man. Can you explain who that is? Indian Ranch. Uh you know, Stained, you know, it’s been a while. Come on. You’ve been there. You guys for that. Yeah. Speaking of It’s been a while. Speaking of him. Oh, what about you, O Will? Up to you. I’d probably say Todd Graves. Oh. Oh. The owner of Raising Canes. Oh, he’s a big LSU fan, man. That’s a good one right there. My girlfriend’s always doing appearances for Todd Graves and um Raising Canes. They just opened one up in the city of Boston about a year ago right after the Celtics won the championship. They had a couple of the players. Drew Holiday, I think he was working the drive-thru with Camille. So, yeah, I heard he’s a great dude, man. Yeah, he is. He’s awesome. Raising dude. Big Yeah. likes chicken fingers. Okay. Um Yeah. Yeah. Do you like chicken fingers? Well, he’s from the south. I think that’s a hot dogs. No, but do you know who Todd Graves is, Matt? I don’t. You know what Raising Kane is? I do know what Raising Kane Yeah. of Raising Canes, man. Yeah. Back to the questions, guys. Leave it to us. Um, yeah. Matt, what was the song on your high school highlight reel if they had that in black and white? Thank you. It was an eight track. Yeah, I appreciate you uh making that point. Not not my eight track. Eight track. Okay. And uh I’m gonna say uh you know what? Um, ACD, come on now. Oh, now now you you spent some time in Ohio. These guys are the greatest rap group from the great state of Ohio. Don’t harmony. Thank you. Oh, did did we just twin out right there? Did we get weird, man? Big bear. That’s a good one right there. You know the only I like him. The only lyrics you know of that that song would Yeah. Uh, take me down. Uncle Char, whatever that is. I don’t know. I think that’s what he’s saying, but you say the lyric and then Julian repeats it acting like he knows the lyric, too. I miss my Uncle Char [Music] two beats behind. I used to wake up to see that damn freaking music video. Okay. Okay. Jules the musician. What about you? I think my first high school highlight I think I just had like an instrumental beat that Huddle had like available like I didn’t have a song. It was just like a little beat. Okay. So, not a pirate doesn’t pirate music. Yeah, that that’s good. That’s good. Yeah. I mean, he goes by the law. Yeah, he does. He goes by the law. I would I would have [ __ ] considered pirate era. I don’t even Can you even steal music anymore? Um, clearly if it’s just on in the background, that’s considered stealing music. Ah, yeah. Gotcha. Copyright infringement. Rob, your question. All right. Uh, what star recruit were you? Like Matt here, like there’s a system. I know like you don’t really pay attention. Like there’s a two star. Like that’s if you’re like going to the Mac. If you have one offer, you’re a two star recruit. A three star recruit has like, you know, a couple offers. Four star, you’re a pretty big baller. Five star, you’re the cream of the crop. I would say I’m the star that doesn’t have anything filled in. Just one and it’s blank on the inside. It’s not a quarter star. It’s not a half star. I’m not even three star. So, did you go to junior college first? No. No, I didn’t. That’s usually a junior college recruit. I didn’t. No, but thanks for kind of putting that out there. Um I was recruited. Yeah, you were a zero star at one point, I think. I don’t know. Yeah, I don’t remember. You became a two a two star. So, do they they had stars in your era? They might have just started. He did, but I was not one of them. Yeah. So, zero star. Okay. Zero start. So, you’re a grinder. If he was recruited, he was three or four star at least. No, he No, there was but it was just the era where it just started. Yeah. He was so under the radar. He’s like the most famous under the radar guy you’ll ever meet. Yeah. Matt Light. Yep. Non non-QB, non-skilled player, non It goes on for a while, but And then And then me knows everybody. Yeah. So it’s that it’s like the border of a star with paper in the middle. So it’s paper. Yeah. Yeah. Not that I’m not a star. I mean I am. I just I’m an empty star. Five star in my heart. Thank you. And then Will you I was a four star. Four star. Four. Big guy. Oh, it’s got a good ring to it. Dang. Superstar. How was a four star? There’s a lot of pressure that comes with that though. There’s a lot of pressure that comes with that, man. There is. There is. Next question. All right, you got it. Um, can you cover your ears, please? Matt, what’s the square root of 144? Uh, I’m going to go with 12. Okay, Will, what’s the square root of 144? 12. Yeah, see, he heard. He heard these guys heard. I feel like he did hear it. He heard they’re smart. He’s close. They’re smart, though. Hot tub or cold tub? Um, I’m a contrast guy. Give me a little bit of both. Oh, both. I like that. You like three ways then, too. Yeah. That’s kind of what it is. Yeah. Yeah. It’s hot and cold. Yeah. Will I’m a hot tub guy. Hot tub. Before or after practice? Before. Before warm him up. He likes to warm his muscles going. And you guys wrote these questions up. Yeah, we did. Yeah. We’re just trying to determine what type of dude you are. This is a patented questionnaire. No one else is allowed to ask you this stuff. Okay. All right. Uh what’s the most you ever bench? Like like legit, not like you do a a three times, which means you actually can do like weight down and up one time. Yeah, that’s what we’re talking technically if you only did three, just add like 30 lbs to it then. Like don’t try to use your words max. What was your max? No, I know. But that’s the problem I always had with it though cuz some guys would do like 405 for three reps and they said that they could bench 440 and that’s not true. You didn’t put I don’t like that either. I don’t like I don’t like that either. We never We’ve never one rep maxed before in my life. We always do that now. Yeah, we always do that. What was your three rep max? We didn’t We just did two. I did like 385 for two. 385. So, we’ll say 400 then. I can calculate that. Like you said, I’m Rainman. I know how to, you know, 385. Transfer that over. You’re like, you’re like, you’re kind of like the the Well, yeah. You’re just like Rainman. Thank you. How many I don’t know where you were trying to go and then you brought it back. I didn’t like it. I didn’t like where I was going with that. I tell me on the side. I would like for you to tell me how much we benched for the pat. My my max was 415. One rep. Both 415. That’s probably why my shoulders are junk. Excuse 415. Yeah. Yeah. Is that not you don’t like that? Is that kind of weak? You’re judging. I mean, I know just a lot of stronger linemen like Sebastian Fulmer was probably benching 550 pounds and he’s German. What does that mean? What What do you mean? What’s it mean? You’re drinking. Almost took over the world. Germany’s drinking beer. You’re drinking a beer. So, and and by the way, I am German, but I didn’t grow up in Germany like he did. You know, you know what I love about Sebastian? A little sidebar. I mean, he could never make a decision, right? Like, hey, Sebastian, we’re going to come over play. He’s still trying to make a decision, right? I I I don’t know if I’m going to be able to come over there today, but I mean, you know, if if we get a little bit of time, I’ll try to stop over there and see you guys. May maybe later on. I I don’t know yet. I have to talk to Lindsay. It’s like, whoa. Alls I said was like we’re going to be getting He can’t make a decision. I think it’s a German thing. German like Germans just can’t make decisions. You can’t make German. That’s what I got from that question. He’s German. Um, who was your favorite superhero growing up? Uh, He-Man. He-Man. Yep. Was that with the Come on. Was it What do you mean what was it? I think that was like 1979, bro. He had a tiger. Are you serious right now? He-Man? I don’t even know who He-Man is, but I remember it was like one of the old cartoons my brother used to watch. He’s like 48. Here we go. Will, what about you? Let’s have a regular Marvel guy or something. Come on. All right. So, I’m going to be honest. Not really big into superheroes. I’ve honestly I don’t think I’ve ever watched a Marvel movie. All right. ask him about wrestling though cuz he’s from down south. But I will say I’m going to go with Superman only because the underwear that I wear under my game day pants since sophomore year of high school every game are Superman PSD underwear. Yes, that’s what they call those. Yes, they are in a Ziploc bag until game day. Mhm. So, I’m going to go Superman. Can Can we unpack this just for a minute? So, you’re the large scale Superman? Yeah. Wait, wait. So, you wear the same underwear? I’ve worn the same pair of underwear under my pants since sophomore year of high school. They You haven’t gotten bigger? There’s barely anything left. So, it’s like a good luck thing. Yeah. I’m superstitious. Ladies, what happens when it rips? Ladies, they are ripped. There’s no like they rip totally like when you go jock over. You’re going to put the jock over your No, I wear like some compressions over it, but they have to be on. Okay, I get it. They’re going to sew them back together. Just like those. Dang. And the whole bottom is gone. Before long, all that’s going to be is the red band at the top. And I’m still going to wear it. Could be a good look. Could be a good look. All right. All right. We got a couple questions. Yes, I wash them. Oh, well, you talked about the Ziploc bag and I thought maybe it was like that was part of the Can’t get touched. They can’t get touched by anyone else. But the equipment guys that wash it. No, I take them home and wash. You take them you every day. Even in practice? No, I don’t wear them at practice. Only in game. What happens? Like truly if like someone loses them or something or they truly like just can’t be worn anymore. What are you going to do after that? If somebody else lost them, I would flash out. Oh, flash out. What’s that? That’s a super That’s a super human term. Flash out. Is that a Superman term? So Superman and He-Man. All right. Superman, He-Man. We got a couple more. Couple more. One more each. All right. The biggest purchase you made with your first NFL check. My first purchase was a Matthews bow. Never had enough money to get one of those. And then my second purchase right after that was a 1999 Cadillac Escalade, which I still have, and I was going to drive it here today. I I I asked, what was your first uh purchase? It was a boat. Not your first and second, Matthew. Well, but I mean they kind of went one. I mean, one’s not that sexy. All right. Fine. Fine. Depending on who you ask. It’s a good point. I think my first big p I would say I got a house. House. So, was this in college or was this in the pro? No, this was in the pros. Okay. Pro NFL ch not. Yeah. Wait a minute. Like, are we talking NIL money? Are we talking you take a pay cut being the fourth pick overall in the NFL? No, definitely not. But it will get there. It will get there. Mhm. All right. So, um I heard about those LSU boosters. I might go back to college. How do you eat your steak? Both of you. Medium rare. Yeah. Medium rare utensils. Yeah. Yeah. What if it’s a ribeye? There’s bone and there’s still some meat on there. If I can grab bone, I’m I’m grabbing bone. I’m not a huge ribeye guy. Hot dogs in that ribe eyes. It’s I just like What is that? You a fillet guy? Yeah, I like fillets. Lean guy. Yep. Keeps it lean and mean. Makes it lean. Because we’re going to ask a question. Why? It’s basically why we’re all here because the game brought us here. What does football mean to you? Uh I think discipline. I think you know I probably would have been one of those kids that just never really achieved what I could have in life if I didn’t have that discipline. And look, I come from a a great house. I mean, my parents are amazing. They tried really hard, but I was like always determined to do it the wrong way and really hard and blow things up and create problems. And I think football to me was, you know, the fact that I knew I knew the coaches expected something out of me and they reinforced that I was capable. And so there was confidence that came with that. And then there was the discipline to show up on time and be a part of something and be a team player. And if you really look at it, I mean, people talk about it, but they don’t necessarily have the background in some cases. Like people will draw comparisons to team sports and how that reacts to the real world. And the real world, I mean, half your battle is just being able to work alongside of somebody who’s to your right and left and actually, you know, have a shared common goal that you’re going after. football does that in an amazing way. I mean, look at the number of guys that are in the locker room. So, I think discipline is a big deal and working with people, you know, is a big part of that. That’s a great answer. That’s a great answer. Discipline to Matt Light. Mhm. What about you, Will? I would honestly probably just piggyback off what he said. Piggyback. Like, I just think that football can teach you so much more for like the real world. like you learn real world stuff inside the locker room in the building. Uh I don’t know. It’s just like you have obviously y’all have but to the listeners you have to go through the locker room have the hard coach and do the stuff on a dayto-day basis to really learn and experience it. But it just prepares you for life. I think microcosm of life would what what would it say? Sure. Micro, how do you spell microcosm? We’re going to take our our couple seconds to talk and then we’ll finally go over the five different dudes of which dude you guys are. Please excuse us, Matt. I know you’re going to think this is a little weird, but this is just what we do. Yeah. Um, well, you can’t judge us. You’re too young. Matt Light. Yeah. Yeah. I asked him. I told him it was series of questions. Matt Light a stud? No. quick hitting question. Whatever they’re doing, at no point is it rooted in science or common sense. Just so you know, like everything, matter of fact, they’re drawing a picture of a circle and they’re going to get that wrong. You know what I mean? Bought a house with his NIL money. No. Um Oh, yeah. Like it’s Yeah. At no point has anything that you said made a damn bit of sense you what kind of dude is Matt light after our calculations and our patented questions. We have come to a conclusion. It was very easy to come to the conclusion. Um first off we we asked Matt these are quick hitting questions and I think he gave us a monologue for every single one. Um which goes to his intellect. Mhm. Thank you. um how smart he is and his innovation, his innovation. Um yeah, he’s just a smart guy. Mhm. Very in He’s very clutch. Very hands-on. Can figure out any situation. Very hands-on. And our our series of guys, very smart offensive lineman. If you haven’t looked, we have five different types of dudes. Stud, athletic, IQ, well-rounded, has been the guy his whole life. Freak, someone who doesn’t look like a human. Dog, someone who may not be loved by everyone, but everyone respects him. He’s relentlessly motivated. He’s physically, mentally tough. The whiz is someone who’s intellect, innovative, clutch. The dude’s dude who is the locker room guy, the glue guy, the calm, cool click guy. For me, I’m going to have to go uh you know, Matt has a whole lot of these things, which both you guys could, you can always argue, but for me, what do you think about Matt? One, two, three. Whiz. I think you’re a wiz. Uh, everything you’ve done is well thought it out. The pranks, uh, everything. The mind games. The mind games. I mean, you’re playing a mind game with me right now with your face and how you’re nodding your head and making your goatee go up and down. So, I don’t go and what beard beard. Um, and you’re very Yeah. I mean, we just talked about that one play earlier in the interview where, you know, you just got the guy for Tom to hit. You know, you’re clutch. You have a picture for Whiz. Like, it’s like a wizard. You You’re the picture. Like a genius. Genius. You’re the face of it now. You’re the face of the whiz, right? All right. Has there been another whiz? There’s been plenty of whizzes. Oh, okay. Yeah. Who are the whizzes? Yeah. Uh Richard Sherman, Mike Vrael, Bill Bich, other whizzes. Okay. You know, the same you’re in the same category as coach Bach. How how does that feel? Yeah, I’m I’m I’m okay with that, man. I mean, I just I feel like sometimes maybe you’re whizzing in my corn flakes while you’re doing this. You know what I mean? Like you ever you know that saying like they’re they’re they’re pissing in your corn flakes as they’re looking you in the eye. Yeah. Like I didn’t know if that was kind of the whiz side of it, but No. Whiz is like a wizard. Like a wizard. like someone who would probably put 40 hours into a rookie video when we had no hours to even think of that but finds a way to do it. No, I appreciate it, man. You know that’s that’s you. I feel good about that. Thank you. You’re welcome. Thank you. All right. Um Will on three. We think you are one, two, three. Pop stud. Pop stud. Okay. Do it one more time. One, two, three. One, two, three. Pop stud. Yes. Okay. You’re young. You’re not we we don’t there’s not enough film for us to know if you were the stud yet. You still going into the year, but you have those stud tendencies. You’re like a little puppy stud. After this year, you could probably confirm that you were a full-on stud, but that’s all going to determine how you play this first year. I mean, fourth overall pick, war number, the whole seven thing in LSU. I mean, you’ve been the guy. You came from the same city as Witworth. You were supposed to be the guy. Now you’re that guy. Pup stud. pup stud. Yeah, those sharp teeth and and and your naps are going to serve you well. And and just to give you context of other studs out there, you’re the first pup stud. We never had a young buck as young as you on here. First rookie on the squad on the show. Other studs out there are This is the elite category. We got Howie Long, Leamian Tomlinson, Justin Jefferson, your good old pal, Jaden Daniels, who you played with. Yeah, I mean it’s isn’t he a stud? You tell us he’s a stud. You played a year with him at LSU. Fred Warner, Tony Gonzalez, we also made Joe Burrow stud, but you just are you’re wellrounded. You’re protecting Drake’s May’s backside now. So, you got to be, you know, study in order to do that. But you got to get a young one. We got to see. We got to get out of the pup. We’ll have you after next year. We want you a full grown stud. We want you to come back and be just pumping your chest up. Now is good. I mean low key. It’s Yeah. I mean Whiz Whiz. We We do want to hear your your critique of our grading system. What What do you got for us? Uh how can we get better? Do you think it was spot on or I think I think system is a bit of a stretch. What’s wrong with the system? I like a collaborative approach to when you’re trying to solve a problem or a riddle or you’re trying to come up with something that’s legendary or, you know, new and you’re introducing it to people. And I think there’s a bit of an education that comes with it. I mean, that’s what these questions give these people. They do. Yeah, they do. No, in the process was was interesting and and u I I guess I just appreciate being the the whiz kid, you know? You know, it’s tough, man. It’s [ __ ] hard. You guys are everything, but we had to narrow it down to one, okay? It’s not it’s not the rules we made. We just [ __ ] we police. Tough. We know you’re a dude’s dude. Everyone in the locker room loves you. Your dog a couple guys. So those couple guys kind of asked you from the dude’s dude. But you literally made one of your best friends think that he had a disease. Y for four years. That That’s why you’re not a dude’s dude. You made your think he had a disease for like three years one time. Remember we went out on the the Hooters boat with the Hooters owner with Wes Walker and you stole my shoes when I was walking out and I was looking around for 20 minutes for the shoes. That’s not Yeah, that was that was cruel. That was that was messed up. When I took Spike’s Spike had a a a handicap sticker that he was putting like a like the actual physical sign on the rearview mirror and he was parking at places around Gillette Stadium. Like when he got out, first of all, I tell people I don’t know any pimps. I’ve never been around a pimp, but I promise you, Spikes was his clothes. Do you remember the long fur coats that he would wear? And he would have random girls like just accompanying him to like the most inappropriate places. And I’m thinking to myself, they have to be working, right? Like, and by the way, I’m not judging them. It’s not because of the way they looked. It’s just they were with him and he’s wearing a full length fur coat. And he would say [ __ ] like I shouldn’t say that, but he’d be like, “Woman, get over here.” In different ways, right? And I saw powder in his hand. I’m just saying there’s a lot of things that pointed to him. It was just some sugar. Just Yeah. A little sugar apparently. But I remember stealing his vehicle and parking it behind the bubble. And I remember like when he came back in like the next day he comes back in and he’s like, “Hey man, did you take my car?” And I’m like, “No, why would I take your car?” And he’s like, “Oh, cuz my car is missing.” And I’m like, “I have no idea.” It was like day seven and he still hadn’t found his car yet. Like it wasn’t that hard to find. Didn’t care. Didn’t really care, man. And I still have that parking pass because I just want to teach him, you know, like, “Hey, man. We can’t be going around using a a handicap sign to park with.” That is a wizard way of thinking of teaching someone a lesson. Thank you. You know, and that was the chillest dude of the week, thanks to our favorite beer, Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit cororsite.com/dudes and celebrate responsibly. Will Matt, thank you guys so much for coming on. This is our first time having two guests on our episode, our our podcast at once. And it’s been a really special treat because I we got to play with you, Matt. You were a founding father of this, you know, dynasty that everyone talks about. And Will, you’re going to be going into the new generation of where this could go 2.0. and and you know, no one’s more important than the Hogs up front. We all know that the the game goes as far as the lines allow them. And uh we appreciate you guys coming on. Everyone go check out the Matt Light Foundation. He’s got the shootout. What date? September 9th, baby. Tuesday. September 9th. Tuesday. That’s coming up. Coming up fast. Will, what are we doing? Anything to plug? September 7th. Raiders. Yeah, baby. See, he got good oneliners. Are we on the road for for the open? That’s the first Oh, no. We’re at home. We’re at home stadium. That’s the only thing I got on the agenda. Mhm. I guarantee you that’s going to be one hell of a vibe. I mean, the the the feverish kind of anticipation of this one is is pretty pretty interesting. I was telling him earlier before you were uh 55 minutes late. I haven’t seen the excitement like this in probably five five six years that this the city the community the region which is like eight states if you haven’t learned that from the original colonies of New England all that count real quick what is it? You want to know the numbers? Yeah. How many we got? Well, we have Maine, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Massachusetts. We have Vermont Rhode Island and Rhode Island. But it’s really half of Connecticut because those are you know what I mean? Half from like Connecticut doesn’t count from a football perspective. From a football perspective. Mhm. True. But the original colonies know. Yeah. I think I think the number that’s why he’s a wiz even though history. See this [ __ ] guy. Oh my gosh man. So thank you guys for coming on. Good to be here baby. Appreciate you. Love it. That’s been another episode of Dudes on Dudes. Thanks again to Duncan and thank you again to Will Campbell and Matt Light. The left tackle episode. Subscribe on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you listen to podcast. Comment on a dude you want us to do. And remember, rate and review. Call in and ask us a question on the chill line at 5612035789. And remember to follow Dudes on Dudes on YouTube, Instagram, X, Tik Tok, and Snapchat. 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Who's pumped for Week 1?!
We need more Matty Light !!!
Not even a pats fan and I love this kid. He’s special
🐿️ 🐐 16:45
Matt light is my all-time favorite guest of yoirs Julian. And will cambell was the best player in this past years draft. As a Niners fan I would have killed to have him.
Julian does have a point I live in California If you're stopped on the side of the road and need help You're not going to get it. Still love cali though
Hey Matt I know you don’t know me but I’m from the same place you were, Greenville Ohio. I think you went camping with my grandpa Donald wills, he talked about you a lot I specially because I play football. Also my mom, Leah wills, now Warren, said she knew you too. I just wanted to inform you he passed away a month ago. I know you prolly won’t see this but please respond is you do. Thank you for your time.
The best left guard that ever played the game is John "The Hog" Hanna. I had season tickets back then.
Damn Big Gronk u 🪨 this one with your 2 pair of shorts
Boys it’s pronounced “air-mez”
Great to have an old veteran and a young pup on the show at the same time. Great stories even the ones about hunting. Keep up the good work you guys.
Localizing subtitles opens content to international audiences
Hair Mees!
The OG Jurassic Park Dino and the modern day T-Rex. Lets go
Dudes, Gronk lost weight or he’s looking 27, god. He’s looking like 2014 Gronky. Lfg!
Jesus christ the voice and calm charisma of this kid. Fox needs to sign him to an announcer futures deal right now.
Need vrabel to run with goggins
Justin Jefferson and Chase are literally the two best WRs in the history of College football. How you leaving them out??
Rod Woodson is Not. On The Mount Rushmore on Purdue University football team!!
People of New England have a "mean" to them lol Julian..
14:04 GRONK 😂
TAPPED A FEW TIME 🫡
Will Campbell jersey purchase it is then. Sorry Drake
Bro, as a patriots fan, this is the greatest shit I’ve ever seen.
Will's accent is like molasses spilling out of the mouth