2025 Fantasy Football Week 4 Rankings | Start Sit Advice, Sleepers & Injury Updates

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00:00 Intro
00:48 Buy Lows
4:04 RB Rankings/Injuries
26:38 WR Rankings/Injuries
49:19 TE Rankings/Injuries
58:28 QB Rankings/Injuries
1:03:38 DST Rankings

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We got Jake Steely from the athletic.com, Ian Hart.
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Fella roonies. There’s a question in the track
from Big Vince. Ian, we’ll start with you.
Who are some names that you’re looking to buy low on right now
like this second? This very second, I mean, can
we, is Chris Olave a buy low if he’s just always been a buy low
at this point in time? The dude is on pace for 200 plus
targets. Do you think that again that
lower 8 out for him give him a little bit better floor than
that we’ve seen in the past? So I would say Olave, I had a
couple other wide receivers sticking out just one second
just in terms of again, target share versus fantasy points,
Olave, Calvin Ridley, as much as that has been a miss so far, I
do think better days could be ahead.
And how about Tedro McMillan? Guys, I still think that this
rookie has all kinds of talent, just the wider Super 30 so far.
So I go T Mac Olave and Calvin. Really.
What about you, Jay? Yeah, I would throw Lad Mcconkey
in there. Drake London in there, T Higgins
even coming off that game that Jake Brownie basically had the
defensive line in his face every time he dropped back in that
game. And I don’t think the offensive
line is going to change, but you can pretty much get T Higgins
for a song and a dance to use that cliche at this point.
Xavier worthy, like, you know, we’re still waiting for him to
come back and we still have a few games before Rashe Rice’s
and some of these I’m throwing out because they’re limited.
Like I answered this question to somebody.
Ian and my waivers are ready for somebody that’s desperate at Oh,
and three, they lost land. They lost Naja Harris as a
backup running back. They lost James Conner and just
like don’t walk under a ladder anytime soon, but Chase Brown’s
a buy low again. The offensive line is not going
to fix anything. And then because it’s so hard to
buy running backs as much as it’s gross and I completely you
and I have been on the same page the entire season, Pat, it’s
gross and I don’t really want them, but nobody wants DeAndre
Swift or Tony Pollard. So if you need like if you’re
just desperate, you’re going to have to kind of buy on those
kind. But I would go after the wide
receivers more. The clear answer to this because
you know he didn’t touchdown for the first week ever, so you can
go by him right now. Question about Pollard though,
to both of you. Taji Spears should be back after
this week. So week 5 he is eligible to be
activated from injured reserve. How much do you think that he
cuts into? I mean, Pollard’s been terrible
despite getting every touch in the Tennessee offense anyway.
What happens when he gets half those touches?
I don’t know if it’s half the touches.
I think this would just be a 6040 split.
So I still think it’ll settle into the mid teens unless he
just gets outplayed by Spears. But that’s the thing, like you,
they’re not going to force it to Spears coming back multiple
injuries now years in a row. So like does he work his way in
and we could we be talking about Spears come week 8 or 9?
Sure. I would compare it to Scataboo
at the beginning of the season. Scataboo for a different reason,
was missing the preseason because of his injury.
But I mean the point being the rookie wasn’t getting the
touches. He started to eat in and then
the Rook. The injury happened to Tracy on
top of it. But I think that you would see
him start to be eased in. Yeah, I think Paula goes from an
RB3 we already don’t really want to start to an RB3 we really
won’t want to start once I taje is going to be back.
So likely to be more 5050. It is wild though.
I mean Jake names some guys who again have all the uses in the
world just can’t get things going.
So just goes to show you guys that Olan in a low scoring
environment can really be an issue for these Arby’s in hurry.
So let’s jump into the running backs here are the injuries what
we’re dealing with right now. Zach Shalbenet and his foot
injury which kept him out in Week 3.
He was a fake practice yesterday with a Thursday night game
coming up. He’s expected to be in.
So I would expect him to be playing at this moment.
Tyrone Tracy is out at least two to four weeks with a separated
shoulder. We’ll see how that’s going.
Aaron Jones remains on injured reserve some more.
Jordan Mason the better in the Vikings backfield there in
Dublin this week. Will Shipley, who knows, Who
cares? James Conner and Naji Harris
both out for the season. I did notice and you know, not
in my league, Jake, you know how this works.
But Trey Benson’s available in approximately 50% of leagues.
If he was out there in a league that you were in, would you
spend 100% of your fab on him? If I have $0.00 fab, yeah, 100%.
There you go. Just you have to go get Benson
top 15 running back potential. I went so as far as to give
people like the names like, so first of all, he’s number one of
my waivers. Cause your point, like he’s
still somehow out there in 50% of leagues, like everybody
behind him, he comes first. I would drop Pacheco for him.
Like that’s how far I’m going with this.
Like Pacheco, stop. We’re done with this.
Like, and I know of course Pacheco can get a touchdown next
week, but there’s names then like if my worst running back
now of course make trades, but if our worst running back is
Nick Chubb, DeAndre Swift, Tony Pollard, like I’m making the
swap, we’re talking about a top 15 running back.
Yeah, and I would like to think you don’t have to drop those
guys. You should have a worse option
on your bench. But 100 percent, 100% fab for
someone like Trey Benson, I think you can argue he was an
RB-1 the rest of the way in the same mold as a Murray and
Hampton. Yeah, I I think that would make
a ton of sense. So let’s get to Ian’s rankings
again, Fantasy life.com is where you can find them or just hit
the description. You can get the direct link to
them down there. Right now.
Number one is Christian McCaffrey.
He have 3 yards per carry, but 300 touches of games.
That works out well. Bijon, Jonathan Taylor, James
Cook. The third at #4 Derrick Henry,
Jameer Gibbs, a chain. Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs,
Kyron Williams. That’s 10.
You stop me at the circle of trust here, Ian.
Kenneth Walker at 11. Bucky Irvin, Omarion Hampton,
Trey Benson, Jordan Mason, Travis Etching, Junior Cam
Scataboo at 17. Ashton Genti, Alvin Kamara.
Probably. About right there ish.
You can talk about again Kamara and Jawkins and Devante, but man
still do have some tough matchups going on there.
For the record too, I was making these with the assumption that
Charbonnay would be out so Kenneth Walker would be much
more in that low end RB2 conversation.
So where do you think that you would drop him to, just off the
top of your mind? I would play Benson ahead of
him. I would play Mason ahead of him.
I’d probably have him that ETN range.
I think that’s about right. I think Devante Williams,
Quintawn Jokins, Kenneth Walker probably about that similar
spot. Again, it’d be nice if Kenneth
Walker is going to be leaned on as the more feature back.
That’s not what we saw even in that Week 2 performance where he
just managed to get things going a little bit more.
So again, guys, really is this situation where we’re good for
Walker for falling into the end zone twice, but not so sure that
what, 2.6 yards per carry necessarily earned him this, you
know, newfound more course rule. Where, Where would you drop
Kenneth Walker to hear Jake or would you just keep him at #11?
No, I would move him behind the circle and trust, including
Chuba Hubbard. The workload was different
because they were waxing the Falcons.
Like that’s just one of those things.
You, you bring up Hubbard all the time.
That workload is something I would trust over Kenneth Walker
with Charbonnet. Like Charbonnet was miserable.
And yeah, it was right before, of course, the injury on top of
it. So that changes a lot of things
potentially with Walker being the new lead, but Charbonnet was
still the lead in that game where Walker vastly outplayed
them. I just don’t trust the Seahawks.
That’s the issue. So I’d put them at 20, right
behind Hubbard because I trust Hubbard’s workload even against
the Patriots. And then you’re into the Devante
Williams in a bad matchup, Judkins situation and all these
other questionable workloads outside of Chase Browns just in
a miserable matchup with a miserable offensive line.
But I would put them at 20. Who are the run defenses, Ian,
that you’re actively trying to avoid right now?
And this worries me about my main man, Chuba Hubbard this
week. Fortunately, he can get himself
going in the passing game, but the New England run defense has
just been eliminating running back yardage.
Yeah, we’ve had five defense giving up less than 1/2 yard
before contact per carry. It’s kind of the best way we can
try to measure, again the impact of these run defenses and then
the offensive line. So the Browns are actually in
the negative, which is absolutely crazy.
Miles carrying company are eating opposing Arby’s alive
right now. You mentioned the Patriots that
are up there as well, Packers, Commanders and Raiders.
So Raiders, one of those defenses where, again, I think
you can actually throw the ball a little more against them.
But on the other side of things, guys, we have the worst
offensive line in the league in terms of rush yards before
contact for Kerry and the Raiders.
And they’re facing the worst defensive line in the Bear.
So it really is, you know, a movable force meeting a, you
know, stoppable object. I guess we can say in this
matchup, please, Ashton Gentie one time, man, can we get
something going? So there’s two questions about
Gentie in the chat right now. Trade Wisey and I’ll start with
you. Gentie for Hubbard, Gentie for
Judkins. I wouldn’t.
Know no, I still prefer Genti, I just wish they could throw on
the ball a few times. Guys like do we really need to
see Dylan lobby on 2 minute drives?
It really needs a mere white on 3rd long situations.
That’s the part that pisses me off the most, man.
Well, yeah, the Genti. Sorry, I was going to the Genti.
He’s only one of two running backs, so he was one of two last
week with Stevenson that had negative yards before contact
average. This week, he’s still one of
two. It’s just Stevenson moved out
and now it’s Chase Brown with him.
So who do you think is better fantasy wise the rest of the
season? Like if you had both of those
guys, who would you continue to trust a little bit more that you
would want to hold on to? Like if we talk about buy low
target, I know that you mentioned Chase Brown.
I think you’d have to throw Gentie onto that list too.
But compare them side by side, Jake, which one would you rather
have rest of the year? Gentie as bad like just because
I mean the entire backfield for like I don’t think Taj Brooks is
coming for for Chase Brown, but he’s not averaging 3 yards per
carry semi JP Ryan or barely just at semi JP Ryan.
The same like the offense can’t get anything going because the
offensive line is miserable. And I’m not putting this all on
Jake Brown his shoulders, although some of those decisions
and the interceptions were on his shoulders, but also the
defensive line was on his shoulders.
I think there’s a little bit more hope for the Raiders
offense with Gino. And like I had to, I’m not an
offensive line guru by any stretch of the imagination, but
just watching, I feel like the Raiders are just a little bit
better than the Bengals at this point.
And also looking at some of the teams that they have to face,
there’s it’s it’s bad for the Raiders.
I think it’s worse for the Bengals.
Yeah, I think similar sentiment for me, I would be leaning
towards Genti there between, again, that just horrific Week 2
performance from Geno Smith on Monday night.
He threw for like 360 in week one against the Patriots and had
an awesome performance last week with Trey Tucker going
absolutely bonkers there against the commander.
So I do think there’s, you know, potential for the Raiders to be
more of an average scoring offense, which again, eventually
should be helping out Genti because guys, remember, I’ve
already seen the oh, you know, generational my ass.
Genti’s a bust this and that. Even Trent Richardson as a
rookie was still a top eight phase he running back because he
got force fed the football enough.
I do think that’ll be Genti as well.
Still on pace for 295 touches this season.
The way that I would try to spin it too, Jake, you know, I always
like to project the future value game, that if Genti has a big,
let’s say they both have big weeks in week #4 that Genti and
they put a identical mirror stat lines and they’re both top 10
running backs for the week. They both put up like 24 fantasy
points or something like that. Genti is just simply worth more
in that circumstance. Yeah, 100%.
Exactly where you’re going, yeah.
And that’s something that since you and I have been doing this
show together 15, whatever years ago, it is like something you
always bring up, like play out the scenarios, waiver wire,
pickups, trades, whatever it might be.
If they both have identical box scores, what’s the perception
going to be after the game? And it would 100% be Genti’s the
better running back than Chase Brown.
Now, let’s say you could get, you could trade Genti for Josh
Jacobs right now, Ian, I think I would make that trade.
Give me Jacobs. Yeah, again, I trust the Packers
far more than the Raiders. That’s been a banged up
offensive line who haven’t been able to give Jacobs much running
room on the ground as well. So in that case, give me Jacobs.
There is one player in your rankings.
He is currently #22 he is Quinshawn Judkins, and I think
that he just deserves to be higher.
He is clearly the guy in this Browns backfield.
Yeah, I guess it’s a little bit of respect to the Lions.
It could be kind of bad game script and unfortunately we’re
still seeing plenty of Jerome Ford, not even Dylan Sampson on
passing downs. But again, it is a situation
where when we do see the Browns managed to get inside the five
yard line, hasn’t been very often.
Obviously do expect Judkins to finish things off and he does
look fantastic. I mean, he leads the NFL yards
after contact per carry. So certainly in that tier of
guys, if you wanted to move him up ahead of Gentie, wouldn’t
call you crazy. I think part of us, the match,
part of the match up too. It’s crazy, like the Lions have
actually been one of the better teams against the run.
It’s just all of a sudden, you remember this battle was two or
three years ago with the Giants is like their run defense was
trash until all of a sudden we got to the goal line and they
wouldn’t let anybody into the end zone.
It’s the opposite for the Lions. It’s like the Lions are stuffing
everybody and only averaging under 3 yards per carry, but
then they get to the goal line, they’re like, ah, go ahead and
run it in. So it’s weird.
They’ve given up a touchdown in all three games, but there’s
still been one of the best run defenses overall, which is
crazy. And they’re also not letting a
lot in the passing game to running backs, so I don’t think
that’s a Judkins area that we need to worry about much.
I agree that it’s weird with Ian bringing it up as they went to
Ford in the passing game and kicked Dylan Sampson basically
to the curb, but I think where he has Judkins is kind of a fair
spot. So Judkins is at 22.
Then there’s Bruce Hall, Chase Brown, JK Dobbins, Jalen Warren,
who really did take over that backfield.
I mean, if they weren’t lying about that, you didn’t do
anything with it. He did stuff in the past, but on
the ground, he had like 1. He had two really big runs to
start the game, then nothing on the ground the rest of the day
for all of the Steelers offense. And now they get Minnesota, who
knows, DeAndre Swift, Pollard, David Montgomery down at #29
against the Browns. Ian, I know that you made these
rankings before the Monday Night Football ball game when David
Montgomery went absolutely mental against the no
linebacker. I feel like such an idiot.
We broke down the Monday night game on yesterday’s show and
noon it had brought up just the injuries that have been
sustained and who the guys are going to be missing on the
Ravens side. And I was like, Oh my God, Sam
Laporta is going to eat in this game.
And then, you know, in retrospect, thinking back on,
it’s like, you know what? When teams don’t have
linebackers, the running backs might just feast here if they
get through that first line in defense.
Yeah, Shadow Demont, you know, looking like a combination of
what, Saquon Barkley, Sony Michelle, Ezekiel Elliott.
However, the hell that, you know, ESPN graphic went back in
the day looking good out there guys.
So I probably would have spruced them up.
You know, a couple spots I could see ranking them ahead of
DeAndre Swift. But again, that Cleveland Browns
defensive line, no joke. Mason Graham already making his
presence felt as well. And honestly, that Browns
defense as a whole, you can make an argument for being the best
in the NFL, probably them or Green Bay, as we saw last week.
So, man, Demont, yeah, we’ll move up a couple spots.
That is fine by me. Phil did see Gibbs dominate the
usage overall. Couldn’t get the same amount
going on the ground obviously, but I think it was 22 to 12 in
terms of the overall rush attempts.
So I do think it’s a situation where Demont maybe does fall
into the end some once or twice, but not a must start for me in
this spot. After him is Nick Chubb, then
Trevian Henderson, then Room. Andre Stevens is both Patriots
back-to-back at 31 and 32. Phil Krosky, Merit.
At 33, he’s no Jeremy Mcnichols. That’s what we found out this
week. Isaiah Pacheco, King Tooten.
Ollie Gordon, Blake Corum, Woody Marks, Rashad White, Kenneth
Gainwell is at #40 now primarily backing up Jalen Warren in the
Steelers backfield. Then you’re in like your Mile
Sanders, Kareem Hunts, Jeremy Mcnichols, just guys that you
hope follow in the end zone because that’s all of the value
that they have at this point. Jake, in that Patriots
backfield. Do you think that we’ve seen a
switching of the guard or I? I have a feeling they just go
straight back to Romandre again. Yeah, hell do I trust that back
Absolutely freaking lately not. There’s no chance.
We needed three fumbles to let Henderson actually start to get
the lead in this situation. 3 and click.
Like they went to Antonio Gibson 1st and then they went back to
Stephenson and then finally they were like, OK, I guess we have
to use Stravia on Henderson. You would think that seeing
Henderson play, they would be like, oh wow, look at this
talent that we drafted. Shocker.
Maybe we should use them, but there’s a lot of stupid teams
out there. He joked about the Texans last
week. They need offensive line help to
draft the second and third round wide receiver and they bury him
on the depth chart. They’re barely even active last
week with Chris Kirk back or Christian Kirk back.
So I say if you look at this Henderson where he has him,
yeah, there’s definitely more upside with Henderson.
But I don’t know. I don’t try to suspect if I
could avoid and just wait for it to shake out.
There’s one you could buy low on potentially.
I don’t want them. But if you’re desperate for
running back, buy low on Stevenson, because what if he
just goes right back to getting his 15 touches?
Yeah, between the Patriots, Commanders and the Chiefs, they
are really the three most muddled backfields at the
moment. At least Kansas City is kind of
more of a two bag situation. Broussard Smith only getting a
few gadget touches per game. But it’s tough, tough to trust
Pacheco when every time they do get inside the five yard line or
in a short yard situation, they go right back to Kareem Hunt.
Obviously that offense not exactly lighting up the
scoreboard in a tough matchup this week against the Ravens.
We’ll see again if they get a little bit healthier as you
brought up though, pads. No, Yeah, Washington, New
England. I’d still put my chips in the
long term on Henderson and Bill Krausky Merritt, but it’s really
tough to trust either right now, and that’s why they’re not even
in the top 30. What do you make of Scataboo’s
value now with Tracy out? Like would he be a sell high to
you right now, Jake? Because when Tracy comes back,
do you think it reverts back to what it was because they they
had all the coach Because Scataboo is going to do
everything here in the backfield.
Until Tracy got hurt, it was essentially 100% Tracy.
It was, well, he was Scatibu was sprinkled in.
I would compare it to the Patriots.
Is that like we really can’t trust what they’re doing?
And it might be a matchup situation where you can look
back at last year’s Steelers and say that maybe it’s going to be
when they’re in the lead more, they trust Scatibu more or like,
we just don’t know right now, but we have two to four weeks.
As you mentioned, Scatibu came into that game.
He ranked top five in like possibly any metric you could
find, yards after contact, yards per touch, receiving, blah,
blah, blah. Like you can go up and down the
list and he ranks top 15 of the season despite splitting time
with Tracy. So you would think this is the
opening door that you need for somebody who’s what they drafted
him for just missed the majority of the preseason.
I would take Scatiboo over Tracy every single time.
So I would say yes, a sell high, but not unless you’re getting
top 20 running back value. Like, and I know that might
sound aggressive, but running backs are already starting to
disappear. Running backs are a value in
trade chips. And then there’s the upside that
what if he just keeps the lead? And I do think Tracy will be
involved when he comes back but what if he keeps the 6570% of
the lead and Tracy’s just sprinkled in so I can see a sell
high. But like I said it would be a
sell high only if I was getting probably like JK Dobbins Breeze
Hall range which is top 20. Yeah, I’m pretty pumped just to
have scatterball on the squad. Also, is there more fun running
back just to watch right there right now?
Jake mentioned against some of these advanced metrics.
Ralph Wiggum’s everything. He’s going to die out there.
He’s been doing it all of last year, man.
That was what it was going to Arizona State as well.
So dude, it’s just so fun to watch out there.
I’m happy to have him on the squad again.
I felt a little wonky rank on the head of Ash and Gentie, but
it really is that pass down work.
And honestly, I mean, we knew that was one of the strength of
this game coming out. Did lead all power 5 running
backs in yards per outrun last year at Arizona State.
So Kim scataboo again, it’s a situation where, yeah, we’re not
going to have, you know, the biggest booms on offense most
likely. But who’s to say that if and
when Jackson star is under center, we don’t see, you know,
even bigger rushing lanes with everything dark can do in the
read auction game and hopefully a little bit more scoring upside
as well. So I’m pretty happy with
scatterboot. Look, there’s always, you know,
the right price for these guys, but I would say if you are going
to sell high, make sure you really are selling high.
I would want to top again 20 if not even 15 talent by running
back a wide receiver. One running back that we we
talked about some of the buy lows and this one’s not going to
be sexy because you’re not going to trade for him and play him
immediately. But Jake, I do think that Woody
Marks is really establishing his role more and more every week in
that Texans backfield because Nick Chubb just doesn’t look.
Good at all. So eventually they’re just going
to turn to him, I think. I think they’ll turn to him.
I just don’t think it’ll be clear lead.
I think you might get more of like a 5050 split, but in that
case you want the more explosive running back.
I just don’t know that Woody Marks could handle 20 touches
per game, but just because of his style, if size, just a
number of factors. I just think Woody Marks, he
needs a complimentary piece. Maybe that gets up to 55% where
he is the lead, but it also goes back to it was the Texans
offense. So even in that case, I’d still
think that Marks, and I’m somebody who stashed Marks and
basically every league I could. I still think he would be like a
fringe RB23 where he would be more productive on a per touch
basis, but kind of in the same range of a Tony Pollard just
because I don’t think the touches are going to be high
enough to get him into side that top 20.
Really. That’s pretty good though.
Sorry, real quick, Pat pretty good relative to the other guys
like out there on the way to water.
The only other people I want and more leagues than not are the
Blake Corums, the Ray Davis’s, you know kind of the pure
handcuffs of the world. Marx could take this over.
I mean Darren Gibu Wally’s out of the picture.
Damien Pierce is out of the pictures.
Joe Mixon even alive. We haven’t gotten an update on
this dude and how long at this point.
So Pat said it. Trump outside of that nice
touchdown at the end of the week too that maybe they actually
just let him go ahead and score on really has looked like Marx
has been the better RB. So I do think the Texans are a
bad team should be, you know, in comeback mode more games and not
I do think that is going to fit Mark.
So no, he’s not going to be this 25 carry guy on the ground.
But again, he is my #1 RV waiver at of the week and more leagues
than that. Would you trade Jamar Chase for
Ted McMillan and Ashton Gente? No, if I’m O and three and I
hate to start taking swings, yes, that’s but if I’m sitting
three and O and I’ve survived, no, although I do it’s it’s a
nice value, but I feel this is kind of more of a it depends on
where you are in your stands. If anything, at the same time
you’re making that deal, I think you might be able to do a little
bit better than Genti. Yeah, I think it’s actually one
of these rare trades where it’s seemingly pretty fair to both
sides. At the end of the day, I’d like
to come away with the best player in the trade and that’s
those two more Chase. OK, that’s interesting.
Let’s see. We had one more here.
Would you drop Trivian Henderson for Trey Benson if that was an
option for you? I would.
Yeah, but. You shouldn’t.
That shouldn’t be your scenario, but if it is, I would.
Yeah, I think some of depending on when your waivers run overpay
like see this is what I think people don’t do enough Also
overpaying the trade, send a 2 for one where it’s like, man,
this sucks, I don’t want to give up this much, but you’re
dropping talent anyway. Like, so even if it’s not
Henderson and you trade two other pieces just to free up
that spot, it’s better than just letting free value go out there
to waivers. Yeah, I’m doing that in a
heartbeat if you have to. OK.
I wish you guys had, you know, a wide receiver 6 or a backup QB.
But yeah, Trey Benson over Treyvion for sure.
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to go do that. Ian, your wide receiver rankings
shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone that Puka Nakua is coming
out on top right now. He’s been the best fantasy
receiver per game and now he’s #1 JSN #2 against Arizona.
Almond Raw, Nico Chase, Neighbors Jefferson Zay Flowers
Coming off a very disappointing Monday Night Football game at
the Kansas City Chiefs. The Ramadunze has been amazing.
He is now #9 in the rankings. Does not get Dallas this week
though. Of note, Mecca Buca without Mike
Evans around at #10 Garrett Wilson, A.J.
Brown, Tyreek Hill Back up to #13 Devante Adams, Courtland
Sutton, Ricky Bullets at #16 Against Jokesenville You got
George Pickens, Ted McMillan without CD Lamb around Drake
London, Jacoby Myers, DK Metcalf, Ladd Mcconkey Who?
That’s about where the circle of trust is.
And by the way, again, I got got by.
The Monday Night Football fairies say Flowers will be a
few spots lower every freaking season with this guy.
As soon as I feel good enough to again bump them up to the wide
receiver one ranks, he puts one of those duds forward.
So it’s a crowded offense. Obviously Rashad Bateman got
his. So not exactly, you know, would
it be happening outside the top 20 or anything, but certainly
would be fine bumping the Roman doomsdays in the Mecca because
of the world a little bit higher.
So here’s what we got for injuries right now.
Jake CD Lambs probably out two to four weeks, maybe even longer
with a high ankle sprain. Mike Evans probably not playing
this week with his hamstring injury.
Chris Godwin could play this week.
We’ll wait and see how practice goes for him.
Mclaurin. We don’t know yet whether or not
this quad injury 3 is serious or not.
Wednesday’s practice should tell us a bit of a story on that.
Alec Pierce sustained A concussion.
He’s probably not going to be in.
I’m guessing Juwan Jennings is going to be back for the 49ers
if he played two weeks ago. Missed this week.
That week off should be enough to get him back in.
It was especially with Brock Purdy likely to return Week 4 as
well. Josh Reynolds, who knows, Who
cares? Xavier Worthy probably going to
be in for the Chiefs, but we don’t wait and see on that one.
Xavier Lee get missed last week with a hamstring injury.
Hamstrings do tend to linger, so maybe, maybe not.
This week against the Patriots, Noah Brown, no one cares.
And then the big one here over in Ireland, Jake, the man who
suffered from Dom Toretto syndrome, Jordan Addison, is
eligible to return a wide receiver.
Wow, what should you just made me think of that gift or act
video that Ian put out earlier today from what was the the guys
movie, The what the? Heck for the bushes.
Yeah, they aim for the Bushes at the Rock and Samuel Jackson,
which never thought that would be in my head this morning.
The bigger one I want to go back to is I think we almost kind of
need a flow chart for the Buccaneers because we’re
assuming Mike Evans is out. So let’s like if it’s Mike Evans
is out but Godwin comes back, I would expect them to be eased
in, which means it’s a Kabuka. And then we don’t really want to
start anybody else, maybe Godwin or Shepherd if you’re desperate.
But if Evans is somehow back out there, then you really only
trust Ibuka because you have the injury risk of Evans and it’s
not going to matter that Godwin’s.
So if there is no Godwin though, and no Mike Evans, then Sterling
Shepherd. I’d probably put him in a wide
receiver 4 range. I still wouldn’t trust him that
much. We’ve done this before with
Shepherd Shepherds Limited, especially at this point of his
career. But where he has Ibuka, assuming
there’s no Mike Evans and forget the Godwin part of that.
But you can see why it’s kind of a flow charty situation.
I think where he has Ibuka is is quality.
My only concern would be if there is no Mike Evans and Chris
Godwin’s Limited coming back, the Eagle secondary can hone in
on Ibuka and that’s a tough matchup.
I don’t really at least get Tristan Worfs back in that
Buccaneers offense because that has been the problem down 3
starters on the offensive line. We haven’t seen the booms coming
from the passing game the same way.
I mean, Baker hasn’t even hit 235 passing yards in a game.
So if it is going to be centralized enough with Abuka, I
just think that volume is going to win out.
They can get in some screens and stuff like that.
But yeah, man, really has been a situation where outside of a
few, just awesome connections from Baker to Abuka down the
sideline. Saw it last week, saw it on
those two touchdowns from Week 1.
Little bit of a, you know, underperform Buccaneers offense.
Again, I would like to think the offensive line is going to get
going, but Bucky Irving’s not one of these guys.
I know we’re talking wide receivers, but can the man
average 3 1/2 yards per carry out here?
Really has been tough sledding in tip.
Going down the rankings a little bit more after we get to, yeah,
Drake London at #19 would you consider Drake London still
reliable at the moment? Considering Pennix can’t throw
it to anyone, no. I think it’s that’s what.
I think it’s a buy low. Yeah, I think this is a violent
they you want to talk about somebody taking it throwing him
under the bus. I kill your got fired for them.
The wide receivers coach, which I gotta think like I kill your
is no like we’re going to remember him 50 years from now.
But like it’s not like he was a slouch in the NFL.
It’s not like I kill yours with some of these random coaches
that are coaching out wide receivers out there.
So they threw him on their bus. It’s like why not the offensive
coordinator like so I put that all to say it’s like there’s
something off they see something that’s not working with Pennix
right now. I’m not going to put it on
London. I think it is Penex, as you
mentioned, Pat, if you watch the first three games, he doesn’t
look like he did for the last three games last year.
He is still looking London’s way.
And we do like the fact that they’re using Kyle Pitts
differently and letting him use his body to get open versus
trying to ask him to run our open route because he can’t do
that. But something’s not clicking
there. So I would still buy low on
Drake London just because at the volume it’s going to, it’s kind
of it’s kind of like to go Ian’s point earlier with Calvin
Ridley. It’s been gross so far, but
you’re still one of the highest targeted wide receivers and
target shares in the league. It’s going to come around at
some point. Yeah, his six game target pace
now again, just based on what we saw at the end of last year and
into this year would be a 17 game pace of 187 targets.
So I think he’ll get there. It just hasn’t been the same.
Michael Pennix, he’s been much less of a gunslinger.
His eight offs drop like 3 yards compared to last year.
This season among quarterbacks with at least 5 deep all
attempts, only Pennix and Trevor Lawrence have yet to complete
even 1 pass on at least 20 yards downfield.
So I do think we’ll see some, you know, level of progression
in a good way there. And honestly I was looking at
the Yahoo trade market and they actually show you like trades
that have happened with Drake London.
I actually would take the Drake London side 41V1 trades.
I included Keenan Allen, DJ Moore and album Camaro.
Well, DJ Moore 100%, I doesn’t do anything.
Wait, catch a touchdown. I suppose.
Well, I hear I got some trade scenarios for you.
I can answer these first two myself, and then I’m going to
throw the third one to you guys. Devante Adams for Justin
Jefferson. Yes, get Justin Jefferson.
Good trade. Chuba Hubbard and Lad Mcconkey
for Rashi Rice. Should I do it?
You want Lad and Chuba Hubbard, not Rashi Rice.
Remember, Rice is fine. Lad Mcconkey is probably still
better, even though he has the slowest start.
Here’s the one for you guys. Worthy and Franklin combined for
T Higgins. Yeah, I, I, I don’t know that
worthy, even when Rice comes back is going to be that much
worse than T Higgins where you get the free flyer.
And Troy Franklin was still the two, like still clearly the two.
Marvin Williams was still down at 50 some odd percent of their
routes. It’s just this is what happens.
I, I broke it out. I’m not going to be like, oh,
look at me at the Athletic. But I broke out five wide
receivers in the waivers that were right behind.
So there was one Alec, IU Manor was the number one and then
there was 5 wide receivers, Romeo Dobbs, Troy Franklin,
Cedric Tillman, and there was like two other names obviously
with them that I’m spacing on right now.
But the point was is that they’re wide receiver fours.
They’re a top two option on their team, but they’re wide
receiver fours. Wide receiver fours come with
five point games. They also produce 15 to 20 point
games at some point. I think the problem with fantasy
is people see the 15 point games from these wide receiver fours
and then think that’s the reality and get frustrated when
they get the fives. That’s why they’re wide receiver
fours and not wide receiver twos.
I like the sound of that. OK, so going back down the
rankings a little bit more. Drake London at 19, Myers at #20
Then you got DK Ladd, Brian Thomas, Junior Debo, Samuel
Sonor at #24, Jameson Williams, Quinton Johnston, Devante Smith,
Terry McClure and Chris Olavey, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Jalen
Waddle. I I’m starting to not feel good
about any of these names in the 30s again.
I got to after Keenan, it gets tough.
I got the Packers wide receivers just in the nuts, you know, spot
here this week against the Cowboys.
So I do think Dobbs and Golden could give us something because
again, just the amount of wide open wide receivers that
continuously run through that Cowboys defense really is
hilarious. But I’m with you, man.
Again, I had a lot of these running backs actually ahead of
the wide receivers in this range because I do think, again,
they’re better flex options with more guaranteed volume.
So we’ll see what happens. Terry McLaren had that quad
injury. Honestly, I thought he scored a
touchdown. I’m kind of surprised they even
overturned it in the first place.
I thought he was on top of that Raiders player as he was
reaching across the goal line. So we’ll see what happens there.
That’s another potential Bilo guy though, because again, as
much as Debo certainly making his presence felt, once we do
get Jayden Daniels back, it’s still Terry who’s going to be
the leader in terms of getting those fancy friendly downfield
targets. So Terry and then Chris Olava
again, just with that ridiculous target.
Sure, going on. He has been more reliable this
year. His average target theft is
actually under 10 yards now. So again, it’d be cool if he
scored a touchdown at one of these days.
He leads the NFL and targets without a touchdown but at the
same time pretty pretty. Nice enough, nice floor and PPR.
Let me do the Pat Mayo here. So because you have Terry
McLaren in your ranks, where would you move Debo without
Terry? Because I would put him all the
way up by I’d play him in front of Teddaroa McMillan.
Yeah, that’s about right. Him and George Pickens next to
each other. Ricky Parasol there.
If Jawan Jennings is going to be out again, I think that makes
sense. So the one.
I think, Jenny, I think Jennings is going to be back this week.
So let’s say Jennings is back this week.
Would you move him ahead of Ricky Bolts?
That be in Debo or that be in Jennings.
Jennings, I would put. I would play Jennings ahead of
Pearsall. I would too, but I wouldn’t put
him in Pearsall’s spot. They both go down into that
probably wide receiver 2930 spot.
I put them right next to each other.
Again, Parasols made the most out of his opportunities.
But we have seen again, a larger sample of Jennings to stop
performing. They’ve been together.
To your question here, Pat, I will say like if I knew Jennings
was going to play the entire game, I’d probably put him in
front of Drake London. It’s just this is this is
nagging through three weeks now, it’s been something every single
week. So I think that’s my concern.
Mine of the only pushback I would have on Ian’s ranks is I
would push back DK Metcalf. I think Aaron Rodgers is going
to die against the Vikings. Like we just saw what they did
last week. I just Metcalf is under 6 yards
for air yards. Like I brought that up last
week. Is that what Khalil Shakur was
the best wide receiver in fantasy last year averaging
under 6 air yards per target target and he was only wide
receiver 44. And I do think Metcalf will be
better than that. But I guess this Vikings
defense, I’m, I’m scared for Roger’s life in this game.
With CD Lamb out, Ian, obviously George Pickens would elevate to
wide receiver one in this offense.
Are you interested in any of the other Dallas receivers?
Maybe not this week against Green Bay, knowing how good
their defense can be, but just going forward if Lamb does miss
time. Not especially, I mean, Jalen
Torbert will be getting some level of volume, but I just
don’t think that guy is good at football at all.
I mean, based on this, what we’ve seen during his short
career, it really is a tough scene.
Again, anytime Dak is thrown on the ball.
I think Avante Turpin is probably the most explosive
playmaker on this Cowboys team Now again, because he is like
150 lbs soaking wet. He’s someone that you can’t
exactly expect to have a full time role, but they’ve done a
pretty good job this year already getting him, you know, 5
to 7 targets and carries always got the chance to for him to
house one of those kick returns, get you a nice six points there.
And I do think in some of these leagues, guys, I met him 14
teams, you got three flex spots. You can do worse than having a
playmaker like that down there. So I would say Kevante Turpin,
if anyone would be the guy to throw a chip on.
What are the fish areas? Jake Ferguson?
Honestly, yeah. Yeah, I mean, now we can have 23
catches for 71. Yards PPR.
It was actually I was going to say somebody I forget who
tweeted it out. It was the worst 12 reception
garbage in like the. What is it like since it’s been
tracked? He’s got 120 straight targets
without a touchdown. The last time he scored a
touchdown was in that wild card game against the Packers.
So maybe now that’s going to be what it takes.
Would you trade Worthy and Franklin for Pickens?
I would not. No, because again, we’re doing
worthy versus Pickens. It’s like they’re so similar
that I would just take the extra free free player.
Yeah, let’s see any chance else years get any any chance else
years getting traded, only one run to blow out.
I would say absolutely not. Nah, I doubt it.
I don’t know. Only went running a blowout.
I mean that that was just that just because they were behind,
that’s it was the blowout the other way he would have had like
12. If Godwin was going to play,
let’s say we knew that going in right now.
Let’s say, oh, Tampa Bay is activated Chris God when there’s
no Mike Evans. Who would you start him over?
Would you start him over like Jerry Judy or 1 Dale Robinson?
Like I’m just actively not playing Jerry Judy so you can
play Basically I I almost consider Cooper Cup who sucks
over Jerry Judy at this point. But like Tillman’s way too low.
Obviously Judy’s way too high. Like we need to split those guys
up. Tillman’s way better.
Real life fantasy. Doesn’t matter what it is.
Judy drops 5 passes a game. I need to get Tillman in my
Jacoby Meyer spot where just for this show I pushed him up the
ranks so I can shut Pat up. Where does Thornton, like, where
would you put Godwin? And where does Thornton rank if
Godwin comes back? Because I do think that the one
thing that the Chiefs have found offensively is that there is a
role for Taekwon Thornton in this offense because he does the
one thing that none of their other receivers do, including
Worthy and including Rice, that he’s a legitimate big body
downfield presence. Yeah, yeah, I don’t think I’d be
moving Thornton really down even if Worthy is going to be
returning this situation again, we saw at the very literal end
last season in the second-half of the Super Bowl, Mahomes start
to get on the same page with Worthy, but more so that
second-half boom was far more him taking those lower 8 out
Rishi Rice source of routes. So I’m with you, Pat.
I think in terms of just deep ball targets of 20 plus yards
downfield, Thornton has an NFL high 11 on the season.
Like only Malik Neighbors has more air yards than this guy.
Chiefs wide receivers in the team just combined he has four.
So I think Thornton’s role is actually pretty safe and here to
stay. And accordingly, man boom or
bust. Wide receiver four.
Maybe in the right matchup, Wide receiver 3.
Yeah, I would put him in that wide receiver for conversation I
was talking about before, but until Rice comes back, that’s
these because now it’s going to be Rice and Worthy.
And now he’s that boomer bust wide receiver for which you can
go back to the Nate Washington’s and even Westbrook Akina from
last year. Like all these options were
like, yeah, it’s going to happen.
And in the 14 team league that like Ian was talking about
before, he probably slots in as your wide receiver for because
you’re just going to take that ceiling.
But it’s going to be even more sparse doubt than it was before
and it’s going to be almost impossible to predict when those
games are going to happen. So you have to, I understand,
like, yeah, I, I want Thornton and Thornton was in base.
I think he was like 7th or 8th in my wide receiver waiver
rankings. He would be higher if Worthy or
Rice wasn’t coming back. But we’re probably getting
worthy this week, if not next. And then Rice is a few weeks
away from coming back from suspension.
So it’s just the matter of he’s going to fall to #3 as a wide
receiver and his number three wide receivers have shown it’s
almost impossible to have they. I’ll give her a better
comparison. He’s Rashad Bateman once they’re
both back. I.
Obviously with big bigger downfield threat.
Well, that’s the thing, like I think he makes it an adequate
like low way. Even if he’s the number three,
he’s it’s not like he’s yes, on Sunday night he was used as
their like wide receiver one. But realistically on this
pecking order from the weeks that we’ve seen, sometimes he is
the wide receiver 3 already that I don’t think that his role is
going to change all that much even when Rice and Worthy do
come back. Maybe if it’s only downfield
targets that we’re concerned about, which we are, I don’t see
that. I don’t see those guys stealing
those from him. The only thing that we would
have is maybe those other two guys get open so they don’t have
to jam it down the field to him. No, but you’re.
Getting. Snapshare.
Yeah, it could be annoying if we see Hollywood Brown continue to
stay involved and then Taekwon all of a sudden becomes a part
time player. That would be the issue.
I hope they just get Hollywood Brown’s corpse out of here and
they actually go with Rice, Worthy and Thornton.
I do think that would be in the best interest of their football
team. But yeah, again, it becomes a
little bit iffy. I think in the near term,
though, even with Worthy back for these next three weeks of
Fort Rice, I do think Thornton deserves to be prioritized a
little bit more. Is Trey Tucker?
Is Trey Tucker a real guy or just once every two weeks like 2
weeks a year I mean. Would have known this because he
did the same thing in week 3 last year.
So that was just Trey week 3 there you go boom he’s the new
Sammy Watkins except you do it in week 3.
He he was the same thing since that funny thing since week 3
last year he was out there average 90% of the time which he
is out there average 90% of the time this year he’s their number
2 wide receiver. That hasn’t changed it’s just
the fact that he’s getting a few more targets this year, but this
is still Jacoby Myers, this is still Brock Bowers.
So this is what I said in my waiver piece is that if we do
think Brock Bowers is the Brock Bowers we’ve seen so far, which
is not the Brock Bowers from last year, it’s somebody who’s
going to end up being a big disappointment for somebody who
stayed healthy in fantasy is that, yeah, Trey Tucker could be
a wide receiver 4. But does Bowers bounce back?
Because then Trey Tucker still being the number three, it’s
just going to be inconsistent. He’s a wide receiver 4.
Put him in the names with Romeo Dobbs, you know, with Cedric
Tillman and all the rest. But understand, like, his role
hasn’t really changed. He’s just seen a few more
opportunities this year because Bowers is struggling out of the
gate. Should we put any sort of belief
Ian into Parker Washington’s 11 targets on Sunday?
Nah, I don’t think so, man. He was racking up again these
unrealized area yards and stuff. But the end of the day, you
would like to think this Jaguars offense is going to get going
through BTJ and Hunter. But guys, I came up with a new
thing this week, All right? You know, they have the Mendoza
line in baseball, 200 average. We need the spike line in
football. OK, That is the passer rating
that you get for spiking the ball into the ground.
It’s 39.6. The only four wide receivers
with the passer rating went targeted under the spike line.
BTJ Travis Hunter, Jerry Judy and Xavier Leggett.
Get it together. Jacksonville, come on.
Here, I’ll give you one more more fantasy points than Trevor
Lawrence so far, Russ Wilson, Spencer Rattler, Bryce Young,
Sam Darnold, Jaden and Daniels in two games, and Mac Jones in
two games only has two fewer fantasy points.
Which seems strange because I think that pass rate over
expectation for the Jags is way higher than like whatever their
neutral great game script would dictate.
So we’re going to get a Trevor Lawrence 400 yard game.
I just have no idea when it’s ever going to come.
And it might come with 0 touchdowns.
That’d be awful. And we can’t even trust him with
the goal line which running back to give it to at this point.
Both getting them, Tilo has dealt with the most drops in the
NFO in his defense, but man, how many freaking years do we have
to continue to look at this Jaguars offense not being able
to supply high end pass game results without eventually just
pointing the finger at Tilo. So I will say the run game looks
good under Liam Cohen. Similar sentiment in Chicago.
I mean, they’ve been opening up holes for the guys.
Swift obviously not making much of it there, but you know,
certainly left a lot to be desired there in the passing
game. So Long story short, Pat, no, I
do not believe in Parker, WA. There is a guy in the chat who
is desperately trying to trade this package of Xavier Worthy
and Troy Franklin. It went from like George Pickens
and T Higgins. Now he’s asking if it should be
like A.J. Brown or Amin.
Raw yes to those last two guys. By the way, if people will take
take your poo poo package of those ones.
He’s doing the problem with what everybody tries to do, and I
want this player and I want to give up these players.
What can I get? This doesn’t work that way.
Lee did mention, and this time I did want to bring up you’re
looking for Flyers to start. Tori Horton looks pretty good
for the Seahawks. He’s finding ways like even with
the kick return last week, scored the touchdown the week
before. He’s finding ways to get
involved in this offense and they they need someone who’s not
JSN to catch a ball. And that’s why I would actually,
if I’m looking for upside, I would take Tori Horton over Trey
Tucker because if I’m looking for pure upside, Trey Tucker
needs an injury to be the consistent to like Brock Bowers.
Even like I said, even if Brock Bowers is completely like
mediocre this year, there’s still three options there with
your boy Jacoby Myers. The difference with Horton is we
have two bad games from cup and one good one.
The Seahawks could actually look at this and even say it’s not
even the bad games but let’s keep cup healthy.
Only run them out there in three wide 11 sets and Tori Horton
becomes the 2. So similar to other like running
backs where we talk about situations like they don’t need
the injury to potentially have the ceiling to surpass the
person in front of them. Tori Horton’s in a in a
situation where you could say he doesn’t need an injury to become
the number 2 for that team. And if he is the #2 then stock
up there. So there are names I have in
front of them in the waivers, including Tucker and Thornton
and stuff like that. But his path is that he could
just play himself into the number 2 role going forward.
Question for you, Ian. If Christian Gonzalez returns
this week for the Patriots, and that’s a big if based on the way
his hamstring has been going, Let’s say he’s back and they
stick him on Ted McMillan, then we would like Ted McMillan less.
There’s probably not going to be able to get Jatavion.
Sanders is out with a high ankle sprain.
Who would stand to benefit the most on the Panthers if they
have to funnel passes everywhere?
Is it Renfro, is it David Moore, is it Bryson Tremaine like, or
do we care about any of these guys?
No, I think it’s Renfro. I mean, he’s only one week
removed from that two touchdown game, probably going to be, you
know, the runner up for comeback player of the year behind Daniel
Jones. So we’ll see what happens there.
But I think it would be Renfro. We still got at least, you know,
one more week with Jalen Coker on the IR.
So he would honestly be another guy where I know in a bunch of
my deeper, you know, skank leagues where the waiver wire
pickings are slim. I have seen a lot of Jalen
Coker, you know, being left out there.
He does profile as the second best wide receiver on this team
once he is good to go. But yeah, for this week, I would
say Renfro is a pretty good call.
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Now let’s talk tight ends because we got some tight end
injuries to run through. Michael Meyer suffered A
concussion against the commanders last week.
It’s probably not going to play. I just mentioned Jatavion
Sanders. He’s out multiple weeks with a
high ankle sprain. Isaiah likely should should
asterisks return for Baltimore against Kansas City this week
where he couldn’t keep it? It’s funny, it’s a foot injury
because he couldn’t keep his foot inbounds in week one last
year to win that game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Colson Loveland has a hip injury, did not return from last
week against Dallas. Evan Ingram didn’t play last
week, neither did Will Disley and George Kittle’s probably out
at least one more week, probably more.
So we get to Ian’s tight end rankings for the week.
Once again, half point PPR. He got the only man who’s
healthy in the world, Trey McBride at #1 and caught a
touchdown. Who is this?
Brock Bowers at 2, although he’s still banged up, has not looked
good since sustaining that injury.
Tyler Warren, Tucker Craft, Jake Ferguson at 5, Jawan Johnson,
Sam LaPorte, Travis Kelsey, Zack Hertz, Dalton Kincaid.
Then you’re into Pitts and Joku Fannin, Hunter, Henry Hawkinson,
Dallas Goddard and he of two touchdowns last night before you
made these rankings, Ian. Mark Andrews.
I know as soon as we put Andrews on the bench, he’s decides to
absolutely ball out and do his thing.
So good for him. And now with Isaiah likely
coming back, it’s obviously going to be shrinking that.
But knowing Mark Andrews, probably it won’t stop the guy.
So again, it is pretty rough in terms of like where we would
draw a circle with trust line. I’d say probably only after Juan
Johnson, I’d like to include Sam LaPorte, but there’s so many,
you know, capable mouths in that Lions offense pause that.
I do think it’s a situation where he’s tough to rely on
quite as much there. So really is just a next person,
you know, race I would say for the top right now.
That’s where I would go to. I’d probably bump up Goddard
against Tampa Bay, Jake. That’s about it.
I. Guess if you want to bump them
up, I want to. You don’t mean the circle of
trust, right? Just no, no, no, I just mean
like just, I mean would I rather play Goddard or in Joku right
now? Probably Goddard.
Yeah, yeah, that’s I can see that.
And Joke who’s been getting, he actually has 18 targets.
He’s got 5-6 and seven. Is that the math right?
Yeah. So I think it’s not that order,
but he’s getting the targets. He’s a fine kind of mid play and
half PPR, but I mean, that’s just what that situation is when
you’re splitting with fannin. So I only bring it up because
people are like, should I drop and Joke when it’s like for
what? It’s tight end like if you want
to chase Chigaku, cool, whatever.
I want to ask you, Pat, though, if you were still doing Worst
Place, would Marc Andrews now be the holder of the Jared Cook
Worst Place because he feels like he should be?
Oh, yeah, With no way I would own Marc Andrews or ever start
Marc Andrews. Just they’d be madding.
Like, I mean, Jared, you know, I mean, tell the people what
happened to you. Dropped them this week because
of Ian’s rankings. They were so low, so low.
I drafted him because he was so high pre draft.
Looks so good. Yeah, I dropped him immediately.
Thankfully I picked up the Cowboys tight end Ferguson.
That was OK. But it is fucking madding.
He had he had two receptions for seven yards in the first two
games like. I’m not blaming you mean.
It’s OK. This is this is a tight end.
Problem I’m here for, I’m. Oh, and. 3:00 That’s fine.
Other ones I’d look at down this list, like if Evans is out and
Godwin is banged up, it’s like every other week that Baker
decides to throw to K dot. And so maybe against Philly that
could be a look. John has been OK Brenton Strange
when it was what, 6 for 66 with 7 targets.
He has like the highest A dot from downfield targets of anyone
on Jacksonville right now, which is really strange.
So like those of you guys that I’d bump up, like I’d play those
guys over Chig and Andrews and Hawkinson maybe like Hawkinson
legit didn’t do anything Jake in that game until they got up by a
ton. Yeah, which was really weird
that that’s when it happened to. And now you have Addison coming
back. So I’m not that.
I mean, but that’s the thing, it’s tight end.
So how do we want to move Hawkinson down?
Like where? Like you would still start him
over. Andrew’s likely back.
Like it’s just this bucket of it’s hell.
Look at the fact of the names that finished this tight end
ones last week because they caught a damn touchdown.
So really it’s the top six. And then here, this is what I
tell everybody from my ranks, Ian, this is just after the top
six. Do whatever the bleep you want.
It’s tight end. Like I don’t care.
Pretty much, pretty much, man. Yeah, Jawan John.
Jawan Johnson’s good, though. Like he’s someone you’re just
going to want to have in your lineup every week for a solid 11
points. Especially for as long as
Foster, Moreau and Taysom, he’ll stay out of the picture.
Both guys are on IR, so I’m not saying that we should be, you
know, selling high or anything like that because I think his
role is going to be mostly here to stay.
But you know, Spencer Rattler experience obviously took a step
back. I do worry a little bit if we
see him go from Rattler to Shuck, maybe things aren’t going
to be as reasonably OK as they have been so far.
So I get a little bit worried with expecting it, you know, for
the entire season which you want, but definitely so far so
good. Question last week tight end
ones Chica Konku, Jack Stoll, Drew Sample, John Fitzpatrick
and then by 1/2 point just miss being a tight end one the host
of the Late Show, Josh Oliver. Oh wow, I remember Cuss was
freaking out because he started Hawkinson.
He saw Oliver catch that touchdown, he thought it was
Hawkinson, then he started celebrating and then it wasn’t.
That’s I’m sorry, I’m just picturing separately like that
just that’s the T celebrating and not because he realizes how
bad things. Are well, that was the Eagles
thing for all those years ertz and God or you could never tell
who actually caught the ball until, you know, you heard the
announcer say it. So yeah, man, too many teams
with two white tight ends out there.
So here’s some questions, some tight end related, some not
tight end related. Would you trade Pickens for
Maclaurin? I would.
Yes. I think I prefer Pickens.
Pickens kind of rich man. He’s got 68 yards to touchdown
in back-to-back weeks. Do you hate fantasy points?
Listen. He doesn’t get, he doesn’t get
to play the Bears and the Giants every week, man.
Yeah, that’s part of it. He’s got the short term window.
I would take the short term over the long term, if you know your
league is super active in trades, actually, that’s where I
would agree with Ian and the fact that like if I know I can
have Pickens right now and I know I could sell high in two
weeks when people are overreacting to my league, then
I would do that. But I would rather have Mclaurin
for the rest of the season. I.
Think we saw it last year even without Debo.
Terry had what, 120 targets and 17 games like him and Pickens
are going to have pretty similar targets.
I’ll take you know the short term peak when we’re comparing
them. Thoughts on this trade?
What? What side do you like better?
Do you like Mcconkey and Karen Williams who might be someone
else who knows? Put those two together and trade
them for Gibbs and Judkins. I like the Gibbs and Judkins
side. Some good trade, like pretty
even I would say. Both sides by the way.
So much for and so much for Blake Core.
I’m taking a Kyron’s job hunt. They’re going to feed him 20
touches per game into perpetuity.
Guys, stop it with this. Thank you.
I don’t know why we have to bring this up every damn week
and every damn season. That’s just like it’s so
ridiculous. Look, I will say that one really
comes down to a team makeup because the best player is
Gibbs, but the other side has the second and third best player
and then Jenkins is the 4th and it’s not a huge gap, but it
like. We lose Jake.
I’ll take the Gibbs side all day long.
OK, Jake is back. Good news.
Keenan Allen and Mark Andrews for Garrett Wilson.
Yes. Yeah, yeah, Wide receiver 6.
How about that? It’s funny that remember I joked
before the season that The Jets would be better with Tyrod and
they might bench Fields. I don’t think they’re going to
do it, but they should. How good the fields look in week
1. And then we say, oh, that was
nothing. That was the real fields in Week
2. He’s a roller coaster.
You have a guess what roller coasters have some highs just
like Justin Fields. Yeah, but if I have fantasy
guys, if I have Gerard Wilson, I want Tyrod playing quarterback.
You know what pissed me off? Though, because Tyrod was doing
nothing in that game until the fourth quarter, which is fine.
But you know, I go through this and I go, oh, this Tyrod suck.
And then I’m forced to remember the MPCS that The Jets are
trotting out there next to Garrett Wilson.
We’re like hopeful that Josh Reynolds can get back.
Al Lazar caught a touchdown last week.
Gary and Smith is still getting targets.
Like, would it kill you guys to have a reasonable wide receiver,
too? I guess we’ll never know.
Go trade for Jaden Higgins. The Texans aren’t using them.
Do you like Isaiah? Likely.
If he does play this week, I’d probably give him a week.
I don’t want Isaiah likely period again, it’s tight end, do
whatever the hell you want, but he’s going to have 4 good games.
You tell me when they’re going to happen.
Cool, you can start them. Is Hunter Henry too low at 14
against Carolina? No, because Hunter Henry is
Hunter Henry. Yeah, but that’s another.
Just look at someone that like what?
What makes him markedly different than Zach Ertz?
His his volume’s a little bit more inconsistent than Zacker.
It’s a little bit more, but it’s again, but we’re also in a tier
where like we’re already in the San Laporta, Kelsey all the way
down to Goddard and Andrew’s. Pick your poison.
Now I was saying even in my right up of these rankings,
which you can find [email protected], if we do
see another game with Henry again really dominating targets,
I will be forced to begrudgingly move him up.
But I just isn’t my fault. You know?
I slandered Henry all offseason for never having a career year
with over 700 yards. Now he’s going to put up a tie
down one season. So you guys are all welcome.
Who drafted Henry? Quarter, I got that one right.
I got the Jake Browning call last week wrong, but I got that
one. Quarterback rankings this week.
Obviously. Jake Browning is starting again
for the Bengals. Jayden Daniels questionable.
I’m guessing he’s not playing. I’m guessing Justin Fields is
playing. Ditto with Brock Purdy and JJ
McCarthy’s going to be out. Would you guys differ on that at
all? Do you think Purdy and Purdy’s
not going to play? Fields not going to play it,
Maybe Jayden Daniels does. Fields has till Monday night.
I feel like he can progress through the protocol by then.
I hear you on Daniels. I would lean especially after
Mariota played. I feel like when teams see the
backup quarterback actually go out there, win a football game,
they’re more likely to maybe give her an extra week.
Can’t wait to lose money betting on the Falcons this week against
Washington. It’s going to be glorious.
Mariota revenge game. I I love that what what Ian said
there too is this is kind of telling when it comes to running
backs and even back back up. I put that in quote wide
receivers, is that when the backup option is playing
significantly well, like really good and they bring the other
player back, that tells you it’s pretty much ready to roll.
So that that’s why I want to bring that up in general.
So that I would say that if they do bring back Daniels this week,
there’s going to be a limitations on Daniels game.
Let’s take a look at the running back right or the sorry, the
quarterback rankings, Alan Lamar, Hurts Herbert, Caleb
Williams. There’s your top five, Drake
May, Jordan Love, Daniel Jones, Patrick Mahomes and Kyler
Murray. That’s 10.
Gino Baker, Nix Purdy, Dak Goff, Stafford Darnold, Mariota and
Tyrod Taylor coming in at #20 But that could be fields.
I probably, you probably don’t need to go out of your way to do
that. Anyone from below that ranking,
Jake, that you see in Ian’s rankings that you would bump up?
Significantly, I think that you know, to a look at he’s thrown a
touchdown in every single game since some point in 2023.
Like I mean, if you want a floor play against The Jets over like
Risky and Lawrence in San Francisco, that’s the only way I
would go with it. It’s just if you want the floor
quarterback play would be the only way I would go.
If you still look, I said there’s my recap.
Odd. I sent I did.
I I pulled the gift from Batman, the Michael Caine GIF.
I I, I you trusted me. I LED you wrong.
I’m sorry. I would still put Jake Browning
around 1718. He still has top ten ceiling.
He’s still probably going to get killed behind that offensive
line, but I’m still going to play the fact of I just rather
do it over CJ Stroud at this point.
I’d rather do it in Denver, though.
I don’t care. Again, what is CJ Stroud going
to do? CJ Stroud at this point?
At this point, CJ Stroud looks like, and this is ACJ Stroud
supporter saying this, he looks like the version of a
quarterback in the NFL that if you have a good offensive line,
you’re going to look great. If you don’t, you’re trash.
And that’s true of a lot of quarterbacks.
The difference is you still need to look good.
When you have a bad offensive line or questionable weapons,
you need to take that next step forward.
He hasn’t done that. He’s has the one good rookie
season, which he didn’t even throw a ton of touchdowns, but
he had time that year. The last two seasons will season
and 1/2. I would.
I would risk Browning over Stroud.
I would risk him over Bryce Young only because it’s Patriots
and definitely against Penex. Penexes look like trash so I
would put him in kind of like the tie rod range.
Like tie Rod’s floor ceiling is Browning.
Even if it goes wrong, it’s just the ceiling.
I can’t. I can’t get with you on that
one, Denver, man. I just can’t do it.
I, I I. Said boom or bug.
I’d rather play garbage time Flacco in Detroit I.
Mean it’s probably going to be a lot of garbage time for Browning
in this game. I have Flacco that low just
because the potential for him to get yanked at this point, he’s
been really bad this year. And honestly, the fact that he
has been so bad and we’ve still seen guys like Fannin give us
something, Cedric Tillman catching touchdowns more weak
than not and Judkins doing his thing.
It actually makes me feel like maybe if we do go to Gabriel or
even, you know, Schdorf Sanders at a certain point, we can see
these guys somewhat keep on keeping on because again, I
would have expected far more success through the air for
Flacco. We were talking in August about
how he freaking was leading the NFL and passing yards per game
in his actual full starts. This hasn’t been the case so far
this year. He I I believe he still is
leading in passing attempts. Is he?
Oh man, I he. Was, I mean, I kept betting his
over for the first three weeks and it hit each of the first
three weeks. He, I think he’s been in the 40s
every single week. I’m going to look it up right
now because now I’m super curious.
I think that leads an attempt, so Flacco’s probably up there.
See Flacco, he only had 36 against Green Bay and that was a
game where like. No, he’s tied.
He’s tied with DAC at 1:26. Yeah, 4545 and 36.
So 36 was his down week. Like if you just need volume,
bad volume, Joe Flacco’s got you covered, you see?
Who’s number 3 and 4? Bryce is up there, right?
You know, because of that 55 attempts in week two, Yeah, he’s
4. Spencer Rattler’s three.
I can see that. I mean, they’re the only team in
the NFL who has yet to have a possession offensively where
they’ve been winning a game. And he’s got more fancy, but
he’s got 7 more. He was playing some all right
football before last week in his defense.
I think they had going back the to week 18 of last season, the
Saints had three straight games where they at least had a chance
to, you know, tie or take the lead on their last draft.
So they were like, you know, somewhat competitive bad.
And the wheels obviously fell off in Seattle.
So we’ll see how things go. This is where we open the floor
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description. The only one that I was thinking
about is that’s widely available if you want to beat the waivers.
If you’re in a deep league defensively, Jake is the
Patriots. I had the Patriots, Yeah, I had
the Patriots on my list. I’m like trying to think of.
I had the Titans as well. Like if you’re super desperate
against just anyone against Houston, I think is a pretty.
Good. My 49ers are ruined, Nick Bosa
done for the year. So now we got to get back in the
streets. I think the Patriots are a
pretty good call. You’re going to have to figure
out something for literally next week because they face the
Bills. But even after that, OK, right
now they got the Panthers, the Bills.
That sucks. But then it’s Saints, Titans,
Browns. Festivals.
Buccaneers. Jets.
Bengals. Giants.
I mean, again, the Patriots, that was always kind of the I
wanted San Fran and then it was the Patriots and the Cardinals
behind them. So hopefully they get Christian
Gonzalez back, though, as you said, Pat, because the past, he
hasn’t been good so far. Yeah, for this week, I had the
Chargers and Seahawks and then the Patriots against Carolina.
On the flip side of that game, Pat, the Carolina defense has
actually been been playing well, getting interceptions actually
in every single game. And they get the Patriots and
then they get next week Miami with Tua.
Like I’m not this is like super deep.
This is like if you really need to roll the dice, but we are
talking week 5 whereby weeks are already in check and then you
were talking next week. If you’re looking ahead, Colts,
Rams, Seahawks, if they’re out there, it’s going to be kind of
thin. Their their defense is good.
Is it good or bad? That’s bad.
Not as bad as. Last year’s.
He’s had a hamstring injury every single year dating back to
2019. I will say we’ve seen, we’ve
never seen another wide receiver just play through a hamstring
injury quite like Mike Evans. Julio was kind of able to do it
for a few of those years, but this guy always has something
going on. Multiple weeks might be two then
because you only missed three last year.
Yeah, seems like more. Yeah, so it’s probably 2 games
for multiple weeks. So it’s actually not that bad of
news, Jeremy. So he misses the he misses the
Eagles and Seahawks, comes back possibly for the 49ers.
If not at worst, he goes comes back for a game in Detroit.
Before who were the I mentioned like who were the toughest run
defenses? Who were like the really bad O
lines besides Vegas? Was it was Vegas since Houston?
Cincinnati. The Raiders?
The Packers are up there too. Josh Jacobs has had an
overwhelming amount of his rush yards after contact.
I sent out one yesterday. It was again like this.
The percentage of rushing yards that are after contact for these
guys, the running backs are north of 90%.
Josh Jacobs, Quinn, Sean Judkins, Chase Brown is like
over 100%. So is Ashton Gente, American
Hampton. The Chargers, they haven’t had a
ton of success going, Obviously has some injuries there as well.
And then also the Pittsburgh Steelers.
I know we were talking about Jaylen Warren not getting much
going on the ground and you are right.
But really, again, you look at those rush yards before contact.
It has been rough there. But shout out to Jalen Warren
anyway. Guys.
Jalen Warren, Bijan Robinson. Only two running backs in the
NFL leading their team in rushing and receiving.
Well, that was the one I threw back at you too.
And I know you’re you made the threshold 100 rushing yards, but
if you included Stevenson at 87100% of yards is after contact
because the Patriots line isn’t helping there either.
Here’s some questions. Where would Daniel’s rank if he
starts this week? Would he be ahead of Caleb
Williams behind Justin Herbert? Would that be a good spot?
He’d be third for me behind Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.
Like I said, I go back to if they’re going to risk him,
there’s no reason not to just go with Mariota for one week.
So that means he’s ready to go. Yeah, 3rd or 4th.
See, what can I get back for Derrick Henry?
Oh, you need to be a bit more specific than that.
Anyone better than Derrick Henry would be a good trade.
Superflex league from T Hamilton, former British Open
champion in 2003. Todd Hamilton asks.
I need one to start Sam Darnold, Aaron Rodgers or Cam Ward.
I would start Sam Darnold. PFF’s number one highest graded
passer this year, Kim and Arnold.
And the Arizona secondary is still super banged up.
B Guy says I have Garrett Wilson, congratulations, good
pick and I can trade him for Jamar Chase or CD Lamb at the
moment. Which one should I take?
I’m 3 and O and I can afford to wait on CD if that matters.
Chase. Chase.
Because it’s not Chase. Is RJ Harvey cooked at this
point? Would you drop him for
Charbonnay at this point? I would not for Charbonnay.
Yeah, you would drop him for Charbonnay.
I’d wait on him to see if he can overtake Dobbins because I just
don’t think Charbonnay is going to overtake Walker.
I think it, I mean, it already happened at the beginning of the
season and then Walker is a ticking time for injury too.
Yeah, split. Like I just don’t think Dobbins
is going anywhere unless he gets hurt.
I do think Harvey could eventually carve out some more
pastime worth. They finally got the day out of
the picture last week. But the problem was Dobbins
ended up eating into all that workload.
None of it actually went to Harvey.
So with Charbonnay the problem is like he is just a pure
handcuff. I know he had to get a decent
enough week 1, but you’re never going to feel good about
starting Charbonnay unless if when Walker misses time.
So it is close, but I just think Harvey has a slightly better
path. I’ll, I’ll, you know, Woody
Marks to actually carving out some standalone value.
Do I trade King Tooten for Romandre Stevenson?
I actually would not do that because I think that Tooten’s
value would explode if there was no ETN where this is just kind
of good for Romandre. This is who he is.
Well, that’s going back to. You, yeah.
And Ian’s point there like to kind of piggyback off of it.
If something happens to Stevenson and something happens
to ETN or not Stevenson, something happens to anybody in
that backfield like we what’s we’ve already seen peak
Stevenson. If something were to happen to
ETN, we would all want to and more.
A.J. Brown for Jefferson.
Who the fuck is offering up these trades?
Yeah, take Justin Jefferson. Yes.
Jesus. Kamara for Mason, Yes, Like
Kamara’s kind of in the Tony Pollard zone.
Yeah, I’m. Throwing on the ball as much for
Kellen Moore, either, That’s kind of been his biggest
problem. Aaron Jones is coming back.
They have a week 5 by. He’s coming back.
He’s going to be the pass catching option.
I just think that Demi, listen, we already have an older, an
elder statesman and Aaron Jones banged up that I just think that
Mason’s like you’re going to know whether or not you can
start Mason or not, whether Aaron Jones is playing or not.
And if he is playing and Aaron Jones is out, he’s way better
than Kamara. He is, but again, he’s coming
back. Kamara’s still an RB2.
Do you like PPR scam Chris Olave this week, Jake?
Or do you like George Pickens? George Pickens.
Pickens as well. I like that PPR scam though.
It’s the 2025 Lawndale. People are very people are very
worried about this Washington backfield.
Like if you had to like, is it Bill Krosky, Merritt for you
across the board? Like he’s clearly the one that
you would want to play or would it be Mcnichols?
So you can probably still pick up.
I don’t think it’s. Bill, it’ll be Bill eventually.
I was a sick touchdown run by Mcnichols.
I’m just confused how Chris Rodriguez goes from being a
literal healthy scratch playing behind Bill Krosky merits
getting the start 1st 4 carries. Like how does that conversation
goes? Hey man we did not need you at
all. But now that Eckler who doesn’t
even play your roles out of the picture now?
You’re going to Pacheco. He was Pacheco for the game.
He stepped into the Brian Robinson role, albeit A lesser
version of it, but he was basically Pacheco as and he’s
the lead early down short yards. And that’s why I don’t want
Mcnichols at all because yeah, cool, great run, great play on
there, but we’re still got 5 touches, 6 touches, and we’re
going to get that. You know, maybe if you’re
desperate. But the answer to what Ian’s
saying, it is only Corey Krosky, Merritt, and even then he’s
still in our RB 3 because they’re going full blown
committee. This is what the report was that
we did on the preseason when and then the trade happened for
Brian Robinson. When Ben Standig said that
again, Kroski Merritt played one game since 2023.
They’re going to keep him healthy for the entire season
and limit his workload. He was spot on about that.
More questions Jacory Kroski, Merritt DUI boy Jordan Addison
or Terry Mclaurin this week. The answer is Mclaurin if he
plays. Yeah, 100% and it’s Jordan
Addison over Krosky Merritt. I’ll take the ceiling even
risking that because what’s Krosky Merritt’s ceiling at this
point? You without a touchdown 8
points. If that.
Yeah, it was Addison stealing, though, as the number 2 to
Carson Wentz in an offense that has no interest in passing the
ball. I know Addison’s really good,
but man, like, I, I felt way better when I drafted Addison
than I do right now. Seeing this offense again, B,
run first and now it’s like, OK, do we want Carson Wentz to
actually keep the job? What happens when McCarthy gets
back under center? Yeah, but he was typical Carson
Wentz. What were what would be your
expectations for you know, there’s a dart in your fucking
neck when he starts playing. And so it took me a second.
I thought like, like, like, like, I don’t know what I was
just like, I got the reference. It took me a second to get the
reference. That’s why I thought you were
trying to make a comparison to like a gun to your head.
Who do you need to choose? And you were going to give us a
toss up. But Jackson’s aren’t there.
I’m Canadian, Jake, keep that away from me.
You’re. Crazy, man, you’re crazy.
Dan Duggan’s report today, Like you made it sound like it was
going to. Han Duggan.
Yeah, for The Athletic, it made it sound like by the title of
the article that Jackson Dart might be this week, but he was
like, basically the change is inevitable.
Like, OK, like we kind of assumed that, but is it’s going
to be next week or whatever. Jackson Dart, are you talking
specifically at quarterback? I would probably put him in the
Brock Purdy range. Really.
Yeah, he he runs around and runs.
I think he had 400 yards like 5 or 6 touchdowns almost every
single year as a starter at Old Miss.
So I don’t think he’s going to be, you know, Lamar, John Hurst
or Jayden Daniels level. But honestly, yeah, yeah,
exactly. Like over the course of 17
games, 500 ish rushing yards, fine swing to the end zone 3-4
times and that’s enough to make a difference.
Again, when you’re talking about the more stationary pocket
passes of the world. Would you trade either RJ Harvey
or Trevian Henderson for Aaron Jones if you had the IR spot
open for Aaron Jones? No, Who else are we adding?
So like, yeah, I’m like, no, unless there’s like a
significant piece in the waiver wire.
Yeah, last one we. We hope Jones is back in four
weeks, but who knows? I mean, he’s an older guy with
the hamstring who says he’s not going to come out there and just
pull it again. I hope not.
Love me some Aaron Jones. But disagree.
As someone who’s highly invested in Jordan Mason, if Aaron Jones
wants to retire, that’s fine by me.
Last one, Chargers, I do have to a ton of Jordan Mason, I’m with
you so. Chargers D or New England D this
week, Giants or Carolina. Chargers going Chargers.
Yeah, I’ll. Take Chargers are legit really
good in real life as well. That should always be your
tiebreaker and these sorts of things.
Addison or Godwin? I’d take Addison and last one.
This is the actual last one. Is Kareem Hunt worth stashing?
Kind of say no. I mean, if I’m dropping Pacheco
for Trey Bass, Trey Benson for what?
Yeah. Because if Pacheco got hurt this
week, then Kareem Hunt would be in that Nick Chubb RV 3 range.
But that kind of tells you like there’s a limited ceiling, even
if. Yeah, it’s not good when you’re
ceiling as being next to Nick Chubb, you know, with an injury
going down. So but that’s sad.
Again, that could still be a useful piece, you know, in
certain lineups. So I would say, you know, deep
enough league, sure enough. Did you before you get out of
here, Pat? Did you see the leaving the door
open for McCarthy not to be the starter when he came back for by
Kevin O’Connell that he needs to be fully healthy before he gets
the job back? For Carson Wentz, yeah.
Or do they have like you? Like, is Carson Wentz going to
pull a Mission Impossible, pull his mask off and he’s like,
actually someone else? No, it’s like the the full quote
is he’s got to get healthy. And then I don’t think it’s one
of those things where it’s hey, he’s healthy the night before a
game, we’re going to throw him out there and say hey, go figure
it out type of thing. So there you go.
Yikes. Maybe.
McCarthy. Ian, check in on your boy over
there, Thor, so see how Thor is. Going to be in shambles.
Yeah, I think he already is, man.
Good I was. I was tired of seeing all those
freaking Michigan highlights. I freaking hate JJ McCarthy man.
He’s good and stuff, but too much, too much pain in this
Columbus, OH household over the years to be praising that dude.
Move up Cam Ward in your rankings, Brian Callahan said is
he is giving up play calling duties to quarterbacks coach
Beau Hardigree. Can’t get worse, can’t get
worse, that’s for sure. Ryan Callahan and Zach Taylor,
man, complete fraud watch. Based on what they’ve been able
to do with these offenses. Give me a break.
What do you got going on this week, Ian?
Where can people watch your show?
Over on the Fantasy Life YouTube channel.
The Fantasy Life show, you said it also got podcast forms, all
that jazz. We do a Sunday night review that
usually goes over 2 hours. Dwayne McFarland and myself,
Monday waivers, Tuesday utilization, Wednesday, Thursday
preview on the slate. So always answer some star stick
questions as well. Sunday morning for you guys for
a good hour. So just trying to get those
rosters right. But this is always a fun time
fellas. I appreciate you as always.
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