In this video I will be looking at and reviewing the Cleveland CBZ Wedges.
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Well, hello everybody and welcome to the channel. In today’s video, we’re focusing on Cleveland wedges, the new CBZ wedges. These have got a lot of technology built into them. And it’s interesting to think that from Cleveland’s survey themselves, 87% of you guys, the golfer, is using a very much a forgivenessorientated iron. That doesn’t mean that you’re using blades. It doesn’t mean that you’re using a slight cavity. It means that you’re using game improvement iron. So, why wouldn’t we look at game improvement wedges to go along with them? In today’s video, we’re looking at these wedges. Can they help your game for this season? So, with that 87% number in mind, that’s 87% of you golfers using that game improvement style club for your irons, why are they focusing so hard on a bladed set of wedges pretty much across the board throughout the market of the game of golf? Well, ultimately that bladed wedge that we’re talking about there has been designed around the tour professional. And the tour professional is always looking for maybe a slightly different window of where they want to position that ball through with certain different shots. Not necessarily with the kind of shorter shots like I’m playing here now, but maybe more of kind of like the fuller shots that they’re playing in. but they want that versatility of being able to maneuver that ball flight depending on where the pin is and how they want to access that pin. And by having that bladed wedge, they’re able to maneuver the weight around, which we’ll get into in just a moment, which then gives that player the desired shot shape that they’re looking for from that particular wedge. So, if we look at these two wedges that I’ve got in my hand, we’ve got the CBZ that we’re looking at today. We’ve also got the RTZ which is their kind of newest lineup when it comes to their bladed more standard looking wedge. And if you look at them, they are very different, aren’t they? From the backside, especially the CBZ focusing very much on that cavity back. So, taking a big lump out of the back and then distributing that weight all the way around the perimeter. Now, this is going to give stability, high MOI, moment of inertia, so less twisting coming into impact. So, if you do have those off-centered strikes, this perimeter weighting is definitely going to help you. And then when we look at the RTZ wedge, you know, that hasn’t happened on this particular wedge. We’ve got pretty much a flat surface like you would see on a bladed set of irons. Now, the great thing about this when it comes to those companies, as I’ve already said, is that we can maneuver that weight into position, which will create that that shot window that that player is looking for. So here on this one, you might see that the top edge has got a little bit more sort of weight pushed into it, pushing that CG maybe just a little bit higher, being able to flatten down that flight a fraction for that tall player that kind of wants that. By moving that weight around, it gives that player the desired flight as I’ve talked about. Now, when we lose that when it comes to taking that wedge out the back, it means that we might not get the flight that you’re going to get out of the RTZ. However, there are a few things that Cleveland have done in order to try and well help as much as they can with your short game. Let’s get into it. So, Cleveland, when it comes to the launch of these wedges, very much focusing certainly from the crib sheet as to softer feel, responsive feel off the face. And we’ll get into that in just a moment or later on in this video because I want to get a sense of what that feel is like for myself now I’m out here hitting a few kind of wedge shots into the green. But couple of other bits of technology that we’ve got in these wedges which are similar to previous generations. Zip core technology. Now zip core technology is all about maneuvering that center of gravity position more behind the impact zone of where you’re trying to hit that ball. So, if you’re trying to move that location more obviously towards the center of the club face, which would give you the perfect optimal kind of position to hit the shot, then they want to be able to maneuver that CG maybe a little bit away from the heel and move it more into that center point, giving us the control that they say we’re going to get from that impact. The other thing that we’ve got with this particular setup, again, seeing it in previous generations, is Ultzzip and Hydrazip. Now, Ultzzip focusing very much on the grooves, allowing us to be able to maneuver debris away from those grooves, getting us the maximum spin control that we need for each shot. And then hydrozip, that’s focusing on moving water away from those grooves. When you get wet conditions, damp conditions, dewy conditions like we’ve got here this morning, you’re going to get water sort of clinging onto the club face, which is going to reduce your spin numbers. Therefore, you’re not going to get the control that you’re looking for out on the golf course. So, by being able to maneuver that water and debris away, we’re still optimizing the performance of this particular wedge. Now, when it comes to actually testing that out on the golf course, I’ve got to say from all the testing that I’ve done throughout the years from companies that say that they offer that type of technology, I’m not sure we’re able to necessarily see it out on the golf course. However, from the kind of shots that I’ve been playing here today in these kind of environments that I’m out in, I’ve not got any shocks. I’ve caught that on a little bit clean. Therefore, it’s landed up a little bit short, lost the ball speed. But the other shots that I’ve played in there, the ball has reacted how I would expect it to react in normal conditions. But as we can see this morning, we’ve got wet conditions. Those balls reacting very similar to what I’d see in those dry conditions. Now, a couple of options that are available when it comes to the CBZ wedges is we’ve got the full face technology. Again, we’ve seen this in previous generations and we’ve got what I would call the standard face. Standard face meaning that the grooves run to kind of like I don’t know 3/4 of the way up the face itself and then it leaves a kind of flat spot on the outside. Whereas the full face runs all the way across all the way to the toe of the club. Now the standard face is being offered available in wedges right the way through to lob wedge. Whereas the full face focuses on more of a gap wedge from 50° all the way up to lob wedge. So not available where they probably say that you don’t need it on a full wedge shot into the greens. Now what I would say is that when it comes to the full face, the te testing that I’ve done in the past where this really really works well is when you start to open the club face up a little bit. you get that kind of ball kind of coming across the face a little bit more, you start to get it to strike or grip a little bit more out towards the toe. On the standard, you’re going to kind of lose that little bit of grip because you haven’t got grooves out there. And another great place is in the bunker. And if you go and look at your wedges, if you’ve got a wedge that you, let’s say, use out of the bunker and go and have a quick look at the face of it, you might find that that wedge has got a little bit of a wear mark closer to the toe of the club than it has more towards the middle. And this is where this full face, I think, works really Oh, that’s nice, isn’t it? I think this is where this full face works really, really well because it really does allow you to get the control like we’ve just got with that particular shot there, right out to the tiptoe. Now, I’m the player that likes to kind of open the face up from this position, kind of swing across myself to counteract that play there, and um and still get then, let’s say, the control, which again, I got it there. I took that a little bit heavy that time, but I still feel like I’ve got the control. uh right the way across the face. So for me, the full face is something that I think a lots of golfers should look at or certainly consider because it really does help when coming out of these kind of tough positions there. Not bad, is it? Not bad. Plenty of spin that we’re getting from the first time out of a bunker. Okay, about 120 yards out. I’m going to clip a couple of 50° wedges, which is from the standard face on the CBZ. Now, I use a 50° wedge. So, I’m just going to have a little look to see what obviously what this feels like from a fuller shot, but also look at what the window is going to be like. So, we’re going to pop up a couple of shot traces for you so you can see exactly what the window is looking like, as in where this ball kind of launches and how it kind of reacts up in the air. And I don’t see with the first swing there, I don’t see there’s a lot of wind out the left hand side there, but I don’t see a great deal of difference certainly from that one one strike there as in the window. When I look up, I’m expecting it to see it in a certain point. Now, that’s something that you guys might not really think about too much, but when you test clubs and hit balls as much as kind of probably what I do, you do start to see what your uh what your levels are. and what you expect to see from your your own wedges. Maybe maybe a fraction higher on that particular shot that I’ve just hit there, but you’re talking minimal. Absolutely minimal. And to be honest with you, when it comes to kind of shot windows, um, of how you’re trying to put it through a shot window, that’s a real kind of experienced golfer is going to want to try and sort of look at that. It’s not necessarily going to be for the average golfer out there to be honest with you. That side of it, I didn’t see a great deal of difference from what I would normally see in my wedges. But I just wanted to give you a bit of an insight now into what Cleveland is saying when it comes to the feel of the wedges. I’ve hit some shots around the greens. I’ve now hit a few full shots with these wedges. What do they actually feel like? So, one of the first things we’ve seen going to the RTZ into the CBZ is, and it’s printed on the side of the wedge. It’s called Zed Alloy. Now, this is a new formula that Cleveland have come up with when it comes to the construction, the steel construction of these particular wedges, saying that they’ve now created a formula which gives us ultimate soft feel off the face. Now, I don’t necessarily get a sense that I’m getting a softer feel from these wedges compared to maybe previous generations or even other wedges out on the market. I really feel like that that comes down to the golf ball that you use more than, let’s say, the actual wedges themselves. I think these feel absolutely fantastic. And if I was to play with a different golf ball, maybe a softer ball, I would get the sense of it being a little bit softer. If I play with a kind of let’s say prov1x ball, that might feel a little bit clickier off the face. I’m not necessarily getting a difference from these generations to previous generations. So, I’ll have to take kind of Cleveland’s word on that because technology is technology and if there’s new formulas out there, it’s going to help Cleveland create better wedges that feel better for the average golfer. Fantastic. The other thing is we’ve got a new technology in the back which is 94% larger and it’s a gelback technology which is kind of I would say at the back of the wedge which is like a TPU insert which gives it a softer feel. the alloy saying that they’re going to give us kind of 25% softer than let’s say previous generations and then we’ve now got almost like a sweet spot or a softer spot which is 94% larger than again previous generation. So Cleveland focusing very much on a feel point of view when it comes to these particular wedges. Yes, there is some maybe some slight differences from previous generations to these ones. However, from my point of view, when it comes to actually wedges that are going to work best for the average golfer, I definitely think that we need to consider looking at more of a cavity back wedge. I’m not seeing, let’s say, something out here that is jumping out saying that I shouldn’t necessarily use this wedge. Those off-centered strikes, I definitely think cavity back definitely works for, well, works for everybody. We’re still going to maintain those ball speeds with those off-centered strikes, which is key to getting our distance control with every swing. But I’d like to hear down in the comments, what do you think? Are you going to go out and test the new Cleveland CBZ wedges for this season? Are they going to be looking at going into your golf bag? Don’t forget, if you’re new to the channel, hit that subscribe button. I’ll see you again on the next video.
18 Comments
I play a couple of CBX2 wedges and I never felt there was an issue with feel. But I have graphite shafts in all of my wedges and maybe that affects feel.
Play CB wedge in a gap wedge play RT in 54 58
I think your comment on ball type is relevant & often gets overlooked during reviews
Swapped my vokeys out for cbx’s a couple off years ago and find them a lot better ( and cheaper)
Ive always played volke wedges wo
Hats off to the cam man in the bunker scene. That slow pan to the 3rd balls final resting position. Gold
I also have Cleveland wedges. Love them
Good players can play with a stick of Rhubarb if you suck at golf there’s not a club out there that can help you unfortunately
Great video Dan,I was gaming zipcores 2 years ago,then went into vokeys,but am definitely going back to Cleveland, think that they feel better and performance is just as good,love the full face
I have seen the Cleveland wedges. I used to play vokey until a few years ago now I play Cleveland rotex 2 in the 56° and a rotex 2 forged 60°. The grooves are sharp enough for me now as I had them resharpened by a PGA Pro when I bought them 2nd hand years ago. I won't be replacing them anytime soon because they give me what I want. The new ones I would buy if I needed them because in my experience they are every bit as good if not better than vokey
Gorgeous wedges. I still have my heart set on a Ping BUNKR though.
I've got the zipcore 2 full face 60° Cleveland wedge, it's fantastic, full face is so useful around the greens, it's definitely the way to go.
Great review Dan. I do love my RTZ wedges and have always preferred Cleveland. Will definitely try out the CBZ next as the forgiveness aspect does make sense. 👌🫡
Still using the rtx4 ..excellent wedges.. 50..56..60
'ooh that's nice' just needed a 'Matron' adding. 😂 I love my Cleveland dsg wedges but might look at a more forgiving 52 as on full shot miss hits it is very old blade style in feel and performance!! Golf ball comment is 110% correct.
I always played Cleveland wedges. I tried the Mack Daddy 4 as Roger Cleveland had designed it but I couldn’t get the same spin.
I’ve got the RTX Zipcore in 46, 50, 54 (full face), 56 and 58. I switch out the 54 and 56 depending on the course as the 54 with the full face is great for playing longer bunker shots.
My son has the tour rack RTX 6’s in 50, 54 and 58’ which are beautiful.
The RTX 6 I found had a softer feel but it may be the tour rack aspect.
I’ve got my dad into the CBX’s. Only complaint he has is they don’t go anywhere, but he doesn’t realise when you’re 78 you don’t hit a wedge 100 yds anymore. 😂
Great video Dan fairplay ⛳⛳
Play zx5 mkII 4 – pw and Cleveland rtx6 50°,55°and 60° (heavy Dunlop fan ! ) they are 18mths old and still rip the cover off my z star diamond 💎 great products