Patrick Reed shares what Mike Taylor taught him at Nike that still influences his gear today

On this week’s episode of Fully Equipped, GOLF’s Johnny Wunder is joined by Patrick Reed at Bolingbrook Golf Club during LIV Golf Chicago. The 2018 Masters champion talks his early days working with Mike Taylor as a Nike staffer, how grindworks PR-101A irons were originally created, and why a certain Aldila Rogue shaft always finds its way back in his bag.
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If somebody asked me to explain your game, right, you are a pure field player. Like you’re roll out of bed talented field player. Like if you stopped playing golf for 5 years and just roll out of bed and went and play with like you just would pick it up like ride your bike. Huh? No chance. You don’t think so? No. I take 3 days off, I come back, I’m like, is this a golf club or a tennis racket? Oh, see I hate that. You kidding me? I hate that. You kidding me? We’re having conversations. I’m a gr So I’m a grinder. So, I’m I’m the guy that like if I go five, 6 weeks on the road, I go home, like if I fly home Sunday night and I have a club in my hand Tuesday. [Music] All right. 2018 Masters Champion Patrick Reed. Thank welcome to the show. This is kind of like a satellite fully equipped episode. So, I followed Tour Bags closely since you started, you know, your career started. I know you started out, I think, with Nikes when you came on to the scene out of college and then you start to transition into Callaway, which is my old employer, but you’ve done some interesting things with your golf bag. So, I want to go back. We’re going to start with how you build your bag cuz you’ve kind of done it the same way in many cases for a long time, right? So, um, you know, working with Mike Taylor and those guys back in the Nike days, talk to me just about that time in your career and what you learned about equipment back then. Uh, working with Mike Taylor was unbelievable. um you know being in Houston and you know being when I was with Nike and Mike was up in Dallas kind of be able to go up there and watch the process of not just the clothes being built but also what he can do to kind of personalize wedges, irons and things for the players on staff was unbelievable and fantastic. Uh I’m I’m a gear head so seeing seeing how all it’s done and seeing the back background is is is awesome is fun for me to see. But uh you know I think that kind of really you know was a eye opening experience for me cuz you learn how how the suits made that but we always would go grab like they’d send us clubs in in junior and college golf you get a set of clubs and all right you might change the shaft and grip and that’s about it. But then now all of a sudden you see what all can be done right especially with him cuz he’ll he’ll go rabbit hole with you. Tim and I, we would do a lot of work on wedges cuz I mean as a kid I missed every fairway and every green so I need to learn how to chip a pot. So that’s why you do it so well now. And so we um so like he’s like oh yeah we we’ll take off some you know grind some off here, grind some off there. I go back out there test it. He’s like that doesn’t sound right. He’s like yeah it seems like it’s clicking here. And so he would sit there and we just you know for hours just kind of fine tune one and then once we got it I was like that feels great. he would actually go and make a mold of it and you know makes life a lot easier, right? Not having to sit there and grind and get so personalized on it to where then no matter what you feel really confident, comfortable going out and playing with something. How really quickly. So like and I learned this from Mike too and I learned a little bit from Bob Bokei, but like when it comes to wedges and and bounce and all that stuff, it’s a it’s a sound like you’re they always the good wedge makers they know how it sound. They they hear it. They don’t see it, they hear it, right? So when you’re, you know, at the oven back in the day and, you know, Mike’s, you know, for the people that don’t know, but Mike’s shop now is the old oven and it’s like a, you know, if you’re a Tiger Head or a Patrick Greenhead or Fleetwood or any of these guys used to play on Nike staff, it’s like an archive of of experiments. And did you ever like were you able to take like what you learned from there and now the work that you’re doing with Grind Works and I know you do a lot of work with, you know, anybody that’s making a wedge for you, you’ll go in there and talk to the guys and you know, you can specify. So, how how much of that knowledge that you gained from Mike are you transfer you taking with you now? Oh, a ton of it. Um, a lot of that work and um, you know, does like whether even when I work with uh, you know, Aoki and those guys and you know, Aaron Dill kind of does some grinding or out here with Ben doing grinding, they come out and the good thing is now I know what the sound’s supposed to sound like. I know how it’s supposed to feel off the ground, but it’s also it’s like, all right, there’s times that it’ll go through the turf and feel right, but if it doesn’t have that right sound, like, you know, and and that was the amazing thing. A lot of the great people I’ve worked with on, you know, whether they’re making wedges or grinding wedges, I mean, the first 10 balls I hit, they actually are never actually looking forward, right? They’re always kind of like their head’s almost looking the other way. They’re looking at the grass and they’re sitting there and just listening and like, “All right, all right.” Yeah. Well, that, you know, it’s clicking. And then after when they like, “All right, it’s clicking. Where do you feel it?” And so then I’m like, “All right, it’s a little bit on the toe side.” So then they’ll touch there a little heel or right in the center. And so then they’ll touch it. And then once that once it starts sounding correctly, then now they’re watching to see how the ball’s reacting. And um I think that’s the biggest thing is I’ve taken a lot of okay not only sound but turf interaction to you know I’ve taken all of that experience with those guys and I’ve kind of you know produced into the irons that I use with grind works you know we’ve built wedges and and things like that that uh you know throughout Grind Works to help kind of not only build a club for myself but also for a consumer that would actually go out and love it. And we’re going to get to that. The Grind Works project and you’re you’re like way into it. when I was at WRX when it started my question was how long is this going to go on because it’s hard it’s a big throw I mean it’s a club company right so then you go to you know you get a little deeper into your career and I believe if memory serves and forgive me but like you go to Callaway and I think you win your first PJ tournament with with Cal I think it was uh if I remember correct it was in the desert was it uh the window was the first one on the back okay so then you get into you know bigger company, you know, going from Nike to Callaway, but different, you know, one’s, I would say, more athlete driven and Callaway is like, you know, drivers and speed and all this other stuff. So, when you’re in your Callaway days, uh, you were an Apex MB player. Um, you know, I think you were in the, you know, all different kinds of drivers, but did you have a specific setup back then? Cuz what I’m going to say is you tend to go back to older equipment. Oh, yeah. A lot, which I love. What was the bag during your Callaway days that you were really excited about? Like what was a product back in that cycle that really excited you? Well, the thing that really stood out to me was my two iron that I had the Ford. It was just the but they bent it to one iron loft. It was like Yeah. 16 or 17 degrees and you know I won my first tournament with it. I mean I took out my 3-wood which is shocking. I took out the freewood and used that because I mean during the practice rounds at windom you don’t need length off the tee but you know when you’re when you’re not hitting driver you’re just trying to it was firm and fast I was like all right we’ll just knock this thing down and chase it out there right and of course it rains the entire week so the ball but then the thing would never miss a fairway cuz it would just land and kind of stay in the in play right and um there’s nothing like taking a really long iron like a two iron or one iron and when you hit it and it just the way it feels it flashes and you just kind of see it come out I mean I I mean things like that. I mean the shot making you can do with it and um really just I mean my my biggest thing is like when I was with Callaway was the you know the best thing that I had with them is they weren’t scared to think outside the box. Right. I mean sometimes they do a little too much there and it’s like they’re like wait you want to use a one iron with the golf balls these days and you’re going to you know you’re going to X100 shaft in this one iron. You’re not going to get this thing off the ground right? It’s like, well, it’s for a T off a T, you know, get ball and play. They’re like, you know, they like, all right, let’s try it, right? You know, I mean, a lot of a lot of times when you start going that far outside like outside the box, you know, they’re like, wait, who? No. And stuff like that. Who was your rep? Who what rep did you Thompson? Who was your Johnny Kell uh Mike Sposa? I worked all the legend all the guys. And um that was the cool thing is with them we all seem to be kind of on the same wavelength. That company is all Yeah. But that just in general anyone I worked with or called in Callaway they were all on the same wavelength that we all kind of knew all right this is this is what this guy likes this is what that guy likes player-wise. So if I couldn’t get a hold of those guys and I called anyone else they already knew all right well yeah cool let’s let’s you know so you weren’t having to explain a lot. It’s just like hey which for you guys is huge. you want to be able to plug, you know, it’s time. I mean, and uh it’s about being efficient and um but no, I mean, it was awesome kind of with everything they do. I mean, I still talk to the guys. I see out here a little bit. I I saw Johnny at the the open couple of the the majors and you know, it’s awesome seeing those guys again. And uh you know, I mean, I got got the Odyssey putter back in the bag, which is awesome. Always enjoy. But no, I mean that was part of I mean those clubs I mean there’s a lot with those micro grooves and kind of we we grinded the leading edge on them just kind of so it kind of I mean when it’s tight even though when you’re hitting down into it it would still come out next without having to add a lot of bounce cuz you cuz you were the first player if memory serves you was you and Phil I think were the only the first two to do the actual I call them Nike grooves but like the micro grooves like I think at the time it was just the two of you which was uh and I’m actually have a question cuz I would consider you if somebody asked me to explain your game, right? You are a pure field player. Like you’re roll out of bed talented field player. Like if you stopped playing golf for 5 years and just roll out of bed and went and play with your like you just would pick it up so I ride your bike. Huh? No chance. You don’t think so? No. I take 3 days off. I come back. I’m like, is this a golf club or a tennis racket? Oh, see I hate that. You kidding me? I hate that. You kidding me? We’re having conversations. I’m a gr So I’m a grinder. So I’m I’m the guy that like if I go five 6 weeks on the road, I go home like if I fly home Sunday night and I have a club in my hand Tuesday whether I’m at the course or whether I’m just kind of like chipping and hitting at the house like in my net or something always doing something like I can’t I can’t take a lot of time off. See that like I have to be a grinder I have you in my head as like there’s certain things like chipping, putting that kind of stuff. It just hasn’t. But full swing wise because I I like to play shots and shots. I mean I I I mean you you lose you lose that pretty quickly. So for me I mean I pick it up pretty quickly. It’ll take me a day to get back on back in in shape. But that first day back I’m like what is this? I forgot I play golf. Yeah. So no. Yeah. It’s one of those things that I mean I always I always grind and and I feel like that’s why I’ I’ve kind of been that way is because when I practice and grind so much. I mean, I’ll never show up to a week unprepared, right? I’ll always show up if if anything, my fault will be I’ll show up overprepared by the time tournament starts, I’m tired, down because I grinded too hard. And um you know, that’s just kind one of those things that I mean, I feel like once you get to that point where you grind so much, when you do take time off, your body’s like, “Oh, okay.” Yeah. Like I’m I’mill chilling. And so uh do you do you build so because you move you know you know Bubba’s another player that moves the ball around a lot but do you when you are putting golf clubs into your bag do they have to be able to hit every shot out there or do you have like you know I know I cut my driver I have a 3-wood here for a big rope hook like do you look do you do you silo it off section by section or do you have to be able to do everything with everything? No. First off, what I do is like when I’m trying to see if a club’s worth going in the bag or, you know, move on from certain testings. Like first test is I go out range. Um, no no Trackman or anything. I mean, I I set up my alignment rods like normal as if I was normally warming up and and I just hit them and be like, “All right, does it does it feel good? Does it sound good?” And on my basic swings and stuff, is it is it producing the tight draw that I’m normally? If it does, if it checks it, then it goes to round two testing. And then round two is when I get the Trackman out. All right. How are the numbers? Are they spinning correctly? Is is is everything matching up? And if that’s if once that does, then round three is when I take the rods away. And it’s like, all right, now let’s hit shots. And I have to be able to hit the shots. Like I mean, for me, it’s about, you know, okay, if I’m hitting a fade, here’s my fade swing. And if I, oh, that’s a really good swing. That’s ball’s supposed to fade. And if the ball doesn’t fade, I’m like, “Okay, golf club’s not.” And my biggest thing is like, so say my seven iron is my best club in my bag right now. Like right now, flush of the seven, right? So I’ll test, so if I’m testing something, I’ll hit three or four balls with that club and then I’ll grab my seven iron and I’ll hit three balls right after that with a seven iron. And I always focus on that first that first ball. Okay? If that first ball doesn’t go exactly where I’m wanting to and it goes say dead left and then I’ll hit, you know, the next two and then I’ll hit that new club again, then I’ll hit seven iron again and focus on that first ball again. And if both of them don’t react correctly, I’m manipulating my swing to make the new club work. You’re trying to make Yeah. Yeah. Right. And so you because in golf you have to have that transition, right? I mean, you step up and you hit I mean, when you’re on the golf course, you get one driver off the first, then you get one iron shot and then next hole you get one three-wood and then one iron shot. Well, you have to have that transition back and forth. You can’t manipulate this swing and then grab the next club and because if you make the same swing, it could do something different. Interesting. And so that’s how I that’s how I that’s how I fit my golf bag and figure out. And um you know it’s funny that you say making it work because you know speaking of Kellen and like you know working with Rombo for example if Rombo really loves a golf club. Yeah. Like if he hits a couple good ones Kell can tell if he’s trying to make it work. Well yeah did that with me and I was hitting this one threewood. I’m like man this thing’s freaking awesome. And then he goes and he grabs my eight iron. He goes here hit this. And I hit the first eight iron and first I went dead left. He’s like here here’s the threewood again. And he didn’t even let me hit three. He just hit one. Hands a threewood again. flushing this 3-wood again. Hands me 8 iron hit, dead left again. That 3-wood never made it to my golf bag. Like, you’re not you can’t use this. What do you mean? He goes, “Well, you’ve been hitting your irons really, really well, right?” It’s like, “Yeah, I’ve been flushing them.” He goes, “Okay.” He goes, “I’ve watched you on this range. You’ve been flushing your irons. Then when you went to test this 3-wood, you started hitting the 3-wood really well. And then when you went and grabbed an iron, first iron shot went sideways both times.” He goes, “There’s no.” And so I mean that’s what’s awesome about working with the guys that really know especially you know Kell and those guys at Callaway and uh you know things like that that they especially working with me they know kind of all right like we know how good I am with my hands I can make anything work well that’s a that’s a gift but that’s also a curse right so I was making those threewoods work but then when I first hit my first iron shot it wasn’t so it’s like hey so it’s dialing that in and fig Oh yeah I mean I Go, man. There’s that. I can go really deep. I know. We don’t have a lot of un I I feel like I It was funny when we scheduled this interview. I’m like, that could be a 2-hour interview like sitting here forever. Um, okay. I have three questions left. One is you tend to go back to old stuff, right? So, like one of the things that I will always check for whenever like, you know, WRX or if we see you on the range or whatever, I always want to see if that Alda Rogue found that shaft, found. Okay. So, so it always finds it way back. It’s back. It’s back in the bag. What is What is it with that with that cha just a security blanket? No, it’s just kind of one of those that I mean when I’m when I feel like I’m swinging really well, uh it just it feels so good. I mean I was at when I was at the open this year at Oakmont. Tyler’s got ref came over and you know I started working uh and changing some things in my swing earlier this year and you know I felt like I was swinging really well and the driver was just wanting to hang. Like I’d look on film, my swing looked really well. It just the ball wasn’t wanting to turn and you know I was like I told the guys like all right well the problem with me is if you put a lot of weight in the heel or put a lot of weight in the toe CG moves a little bit. Yeah. I start I I start finding it. I start finding that weight. A lot of guys they they just still will hit it in the center but I won’t. I’ll start finding and so I said guys we have to keep the weight a little bit neutral. And then if you go too upright on me cuz I mean my irons are flat as can be. So, I grabbed these woods and they’re sitting up like this. There’s no chance I’m releasing that thing, right? And he’s like, “All right, well, what shaft worked really well?” I was like, “Well, you’ll never find it.” 125 MSI years old. I was like, “They stopped making it.” Next thing you know, 15 minutes later, he comes back with a 70 grammer and a 60 grammar. Those are unicorns now. I’m like, “You’re joking.” He’s like, “I made them both. Cut them both. Here you go.” And I put that thing right back on that Tyler’s head and I was like, “Oh my” I was like, “All right, here we go.” Yeah. And I’ve just had a lot of success with that shaft. Had a lot of confidence in the shaft. And it’s kind of one of those things once you I mean once you get confident confident with something it, you know, you start swinging a little freer, you actually get a little faster, right? Because then you’re not trying to guide anything and then just it it’s always worked for me. Uh I don’t know why. I have no idea. Well, that goes back to to what I say about shafts. To me, shafts are always timing mechanisms. Like they just are like for every single player. And you find one, and I tell this to players all the time. If you find a shaft that you hit out of the guts all the time, that’s your shaft. That’s one variable you don’t have to worry about cuz the the Kellen and all these fitters out on tour, they’re so good with the head. You give them a head, they can do whatever they want, but if the shaft’s working, it just happens, you know, it’s just kind of how it works. So like when whenever I’d go back and Kellen told me this about you actually about that shaft. He was like, you know, he tends to whenever he gets off kilter with a driver, we know we can put him in that shaft and he’ll get right back to to Patrick like like literally with one swing and he’s like and it’s just, you know, that’s just that’s just him. Okay. And I did want to take a moment to interrupt this show to to bring to attention. Something we’re very proud of is our T-commerce. Uh if you want a logoed fully equipped golf.com logoed merchandise from Grayson G4, multiple companies. You want some cool stuff with the uh fully equipped logo. Go to uh our T-commerce section of the site. A lot of cool stuff in there. Um obviously I don’t have any of it on right now. I just didn’t have time to put all that stuff on, but uh there’s some cool logo stuff in there. and I’m uh working tirelessly to uh to liven it up even more than it already is. So, uh make sure you guys check that out if you want all the fully equipped golf.com branded logo gear. Uh T-Commerce is where you’d find it. Uh let’s get back to the show. Okay, two more questions. Grind Works, that whole the whole thing. Yeah. So, I don’t know anything about the irons. I I saw you on the truck a couple events ago and I took some pictures of them. Just explain to me that whole project. What is it? Um, so my coach and I were on the range of Bay Hill. Okay. And I was swinging what my coach and I thought was the best I’ve ever swung mechanically. And the ball would every once in a while just start doming left. I’m like, what? You know, what is it? And I, as a golfer, I was in one of those moods. Shocker, right? Golfer gets in one of those moods. So we go to the back of the range at Bay Hill and I’m hitting and I’m just like, what’s what’s going on? I mean, he had to take the the clubs. He took the clubs to the van, checked specs were right. He’s like, “Well, I mean, I don’t know what to tell you, bro.” Right. And so, I was like, “Okay.” Um, and then, you know, we that’s right when the quad came out, we put the stickers on the face and they’re like, “All right, you know, um, they go, I just want want you to tell me, did you hit solid, thin, heel, toe, like how was the contact and how was the swing?” Right? And every time I said, “Oh, I hit that.” I flushed it. And you know that the ball was hitting the heel. Every time I hit it, I was like, “Oh, you know, that was off the toe. That’s going left.” It was always in the center. So the CG’s in the heel obviously with 4in irons. I mean, CG is always going to get always in the heel. And so Justine, my wife, she, you know, found Nimi Kirari who unfortunately passed away earlier this year, but he was with uh, you know, he was in Pamela Hall of Fame and all that, you know, over in Japan and all that. and she just sent him a message like, “Hey, would you mind building my husband a Santa Claus Patrick blah blah?” He’s like, “I’d love to.” So, we’re thinking he’s just going to kind of put one of his blades together to my specs. Send it to me. Right. And next thing you know, him and I have gone for almost 2 years from a block of metal. Okay, what is it you want to look at? What does it look like? And we we designed an iron from scratch. So we actually have the micro grooves the the leading edge lot leading edge the the the flat bottoms like it would in the bounce type like my Nikes leading edge micro grooves kind of like Callaways the you know one of my favorite blades was the Ben Hogan Apex blades a little bit of that into it and we have the center of gravity on every single iron it’s dead center okay and so that that was the hard part was getting it to get the C CG in the center on a forged iron but also especially on one piece iron and also you know It goes up and down because I mean the face because you’re not you’re not going to swing a 4 iron like you do a pitching launch. So I mean to to get the right launch and flight, the CG has to go also up and down, not just not just in the center, right? And uh that’s how you know ended up we designed these and after the first first set he made uh it took forever for him to actually for us to get done with it, but after all the talks and everything, he came to Houston and I just looked at him and go a couple of these in play. That was it. I remember that. I was at WRX at the time. That’s the big story. So, we own Groundworks USA and we all the builds and all the everything comes through our uh through our house and and through our team and uh we actually so Justine I mean Justine and uh one of my buddies, they actually check all the specs on every order at our house on our machines before we send them out. So, if I need a set of grind works, I got to call I got to call you guys. You know where you go. But um but no, it’s been awesome because the great thing for me is not only being in the design process, but also knowing this center of gravity is dead center. I know that if I make a proper golf swing, the ball’s going to do this. I’m not going to have those head scratches of what was at like cuz I know the center of gravity is where it’s supposed to be. I know the equipment’s where it is. I mean, I have it down weighted from shaft weights. I have every everything. I mean, everything’s checked all from waiting to everything. So I know in that full confidence when I pick it up that this is going to be correct. And so now I’ve taken out that factor of okay was that club or was that me? Well yeah it’s a variable that you don’t have to worry about anymore. Especially you like as a player that you know relies on every club in your bag but you’re a great iron player. So to be able to trust you know set to set that you know you’re not going to have to make any adjustments as you go is is a big deal. Okay last question since golf.com will kill me if I don’t ask it. Ryder Cup’s coming up. Y uh I’m a big advocate for getting you back on the team and so is a lot of people at Golf.com. just because of the vibes and it’s New York and it’s crazy. Where where’s your head at with that right now? Um, so I’ve talked to Keegan a couple times. U I might be able to make the team. I mean, obviously it’s going to, let’s be honest, it comes down to these next three weeks. I play some really good golf these next three weeks. Give myself a chance to uh, you know, to make his job making job a little bit harder, right? To put my name in that uh, that scenario. But um you know being it’d be it’d be an honor obviously to play for the team and to be a part of the Rder Cup again and you know represent United States. Uh well especially there like can you imagine what it would be like? That’s the thing is I know I mean I mean I know with my Rder Cup record what I can do, how good of an asset I can be for the team, but also winning there at Beth Page in my career and uh with my kind of personality and know how to handle a lot of that. uh noise, shall I say, right, is um something I feel like is a is a huge asset to to a team like that because I mean, let’s be honest, going to New York, it’s going to be loud. It’s going to be an envir it’s going to be a crazy environment. They love their sports up there. They they love to get behind teams and get behind players. I mean, being on the US team, they’re obviously going to get behind your team, but you’re also hearing you hear the noise that’s being said about the other team to the other guys. So, even though it’s not directed toward towards you, you still hear it. Still a distraction. And so, that’s where I mean, be, you know, being in hostile situations, being in in those kind of environments, I feel like is and knowing how to handle them and and succeeding in them, I feel like is a huge part. And uh you know, let’s be honest, golf has always been a very individualized game in our whole careers, you know, on PJ tour, DP World Tour, me, everything. You know, you’re the one that is the names on the leaderboard. That’s you. You’re out there so individualized that one week a year, you get thrown into a team aspect. So you have 12 alphas now all of a sudden have to learn how to play together. Yeah. One alpha, right? And so being out here and being a part of Liv and and being in in a team environment the entire time is not only taught me I’ve always felt like I’ve always been a really good teammate and a good leader but really being out here has taught me even how to be not just a great player but also how to be even better teammate. Right. So it helps helps with the RDER Cup. So, you know, getting thrown into a situation like that again, um I felt like I’ve grown as a teammate where I mean, my golf always speaks for itself. But, uh the other aspect of that week is they’ve always been really good at the camaraderie side cuz they play a lot more team golf than we do over in Europe. Yeah. And now me being a part of team all the time over here on Liv, I feel like that’s an edge that is very helpful and useful, right? Yeah, I mean I I’ve said this, you’re you’re absolutely hardwired for for like international golf or team golf. Like I watched the uh the Rory you and Rory at at Hazel team like literally like 3 days ago and it was just like some of the craziest like Yeah. Well, the best was like in Dallas. I mean Dallas this year when I won u the first round there was just these two guys that were heckling the heck out of me and um they kind of wouldn’t stop cuz I mean let’s be honest. I mean there’s hecklers out there always. Sure. I mean Thomas Peters who’s on my team because we were playing with each other. He he ran over was like in their face like shut up all I had 25 footer for par. I hit this thing I poured in and I mean I knew immediately I mean people started going at me I’m like I’m not missing right they’re going to I miss it. I turn around I just turn around look straight at them say something. Let’s go. Yeah, you know and then I go and win the week and it just shows. I mean, when I get in those kind of situations where it’s like, all right, I have something to prove. People to uh, you know, people are saying stuff, I mean, yeah, you’re just like Ryder Cup. It’s like, let’s go. I mean, my back’s up against the wall. I mean, that’s so cool. So, I mean, no, I feel like I’d be a huge asset to that team. Um, obviously, I know I have a lot of work to do to get on that team. Um, I mean, the only places we can earn points are obviously during the majors and Well, now you got Now it’s different kind of points. Now, it’s like street credit. Yeah. But out here it’s like all right well I mean I’m going to obviously have to rely on a pick and you know my biggest thing is I mean with talking to Keegan I mean he he is so wired to you know not only put out what he thinks is the best team for him but I mean he he he’s like he’s like hey this is part of my legacy. I mean I don’t want to mess it up. I want to put put together the best team I can. Um, and I never want to make anyone’s job harder. Going out and playing some solid golf these next three weeks, I feel like, and you know, making the making Yeah. You know, try to help him out, but also at the same time, uh, you know, make the team and, you know, really go out there and get that cut back home cuz what happened last unacceptable as a as a US. No, we got you guys got to man up. We got We got to get it. So, we’re rooting for you, man. Thanks, buddy. Uh Pete Reed, Johnny Wonder from Live Chicago. Want to thank uh your team manager over there off camera for help setting this up. Uh we are out of here. [Music]