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into college. And so when we were able to watch a film and in particular the one against Iowa State, we just recognized the fact that uh he was a good blocker, he was strong at the point of attack, he was athletic. U and then we got a chance to meet him. Um you know, we realized that he was our type of player. What I mean by that is, you know, I think anybody would like to have a player like this, but he’s hardworking. Uh he’s a good teammate. He’s smart, and you know, I think he’s getting better every day. front row lost to Ward. Ryan, uh, how much stock do you put into what Bo did on Saturday, both the good and then that last play, the the I don’t know, coaching message uh with ball security there? Yeah. Um, every play is an opportunity to get better. And I think that’s uh what we’re really trying to hammer home right now is that, you know, you can’t circle opponents uh on your schedule. You know, you have to continually grow with the process. And you know if you understand that you know it’s about us it’s about our training it’s not about the results. So what I mean by that is like it’s not about our opponent and it’s not about the scoreboard. So um you know whatever you do in your training is going to ultimately reflect you know how you respond in you know the really pressure environments. So we’re going to coach these guys the best we can. I think um sometimes it’s difficult, you know, when you’re in a matchup that isn’t even um which is what it was. And again, by the way, going back and watching the film on Gramling, I thought those guys played really hard. I had a lot of respect for I think they have a good year, but we all know that, you know, it wasn’t a matchup game. And so, you try to do the best you can to recognize the things that we got better at, but then the other things that maybe were masked because of, you know, um you know, the situation. So, uh, there was definitely some good. I think it was great to get guys some film, um, get on film, correct some things, but it’s the coach’s job to make sure that we’re addressing the issues, and we’ve talked about how the the issues are always there regardless of your opponent. So, um, we got to get back to work today and have a great week of practice. Right. kind of thing. How do you balance out the idea of playing fast and and wanting to keep your offense moving also with the fact that last year you had one of the lowest snaps counts on offense and did that intentionally uh to go the 16 games? Do you still balance that this year or how do you handle it? I use it as a weapon uh when when you think it’s it’s going to give your team an advantage. Um, you know, there’s a lot of things to take into consideration when you you make those decisions. But I think you always want to have the ability to, you know, switch gears um based on the situation in the game. Uh, if you feel like it gives you a schematic advantage, there’s a lot of things to consider, but I think the key is, you know, having the ability to be efficient in both tempos. And there’s there’s not just two. There’s there’s other different variations of that. And um that has to be a weapon because ultimately the offense dictates how fast they go. And so whether it’s cadence or tempo, we have to be the one that dictates in games and that’s that’s probably the most important thing. Are you guys still planning on trying to lower the snap count throughout the year? Well, I think each game we go in um I think when you look at the season, you have a philosophy and then you go into the game and you have a philosophy and I think what you’re trying to do is figure out what gives you the best chance to win uh in that game. And then you have to take a step back and figure out, you know, how does it fit into the overall plan of the season. So there’s a lot to consider there. Middle Spencer, when you look back at the tape from Saturday, uh, Zion having the sack, Riley doing a beer, how much thought do you put into what those guys were able to do, and does that make you think maybe that they could use a little bit more of a look at some playing time? Yeah. Yeah. when every time you’re in the game is an opportunity and um a lot of guys are, you know, are found during opportunities like this and so every time you’re on the field is an opportunity to get better and you’re either putting strength or weakness on film. So, yeah, the guys that pop they’re going to continue to get opportunities as long as um you know what they’re doing fits into what we’re trying to get done on offense and defense and they’re grading out. You know, sometimes you can just, you know, late in the game kind of u just go off on your own and try to make plays and you can make a play, but that’s not within the discipline of what we’re doing. We have to consider all those things. But yeah, the more guys grade out and the more productive uh the guys are and utilize the snaps, then the more they’re going to play on the Jeremy Birmingham. I mean sort of in that vein what Spencer’s talking about but how do you decide in in a game where you know it’s not a talent equated game and how much stock do you put into a performance by Julie you know the the problems are always there which something you’ve been saying but then so does that mean that the positives are always there too or is it something where it’s you’re watching a game like that and you see 18 and 19 obviously good timing good rhythm all that stuff. How do you balance, hey, we did whatever we wanted against a team that probably shouldn’t be on the field with us versus, hey, that was actually that’s something that will translate down the road. Yeah, I think you you try to do it based on your experience of seeing things. Um, you know, take the passing game for example. I mean, the spacing, the timing, location of the ball, like all those things you’re looking at to see does this does this look right or, you know, are we getting away with things right here? Same thing up front. How’s our footwork? How’s how’s our hand placement? How’s the communication? how’s the pad level? Um, how are we getting off to the second level? Are we getting movement? You know, all those things you try to do the best you can. Um, and you expect a very, very high level of execution. And when you don’t have that, you got to figure out why that is. And so, um, it’s the same thing. You’re trying to identify is it coaching, is it scheme, or is it personnel? Um, the best you can. I will say it’s not always easy coming out of those games to identify those. But the more you watch it, you know, um, you know, the more you work at it, you know, the more experience you get as a coach, you try to project the best you can on those things. I know you don’t want to coach players differently, but for a player like Bo at the end of the game when he gets removed from the opportunity to score a second touchdown basically because he put the ball on the on the dirt, does the coaching point change? Does the does the way you guys coach it adjust based on what you need or expect from that player throughout the rest of the season? Does that make sense? Well, yeah, guys are going to make mistakes. The question is they learn from it. So whether it’s a turnover, whether it’s a missed tackle, whether it’s a missed assignment, um, you know, guys need to play through that and we try to flush as many of those things as we can out in practice, that’s our job. Um, when when it happens in a game, there’s a reason it happened in the game. you know, whether we’re not practicing right, we’re not coaching it right, we don’t have the right guy in the game, um there’s a reason why. Now, it’s the coach’s job to make sure we prepare the players, but it’s the players job to make sure that we’re in that moment when a mistake is made, they learn from it. When we start to have multiple mistakes um that haven’t been fixed, now we really have an issue. So, um that’s why sometimes when you have inexperienced players that done it, haven’t done it before, you you hold your your breath a little bit because you don’t know what what exactly you’re going to get. Now, all that being said, that’s why we practice. That’s why we train to make sure that we’re ready in those moments. Dylan Davis, uh, the punt return situation, I think last week, you said that Jeremiah would continue to do some things we didn’t see him last week, obviously, game situation. Are you comfortable with what you’re seeing from Brandon back there and just comfortable with the weapon that it is or isn’t right now in general? Yeah, we we that’s an area coming out of the game that we’ve got to improve on for sure. I think we lost 47 hidden yards with the ball bouncing around on the ground. A couple of them were very difficult because they weren’t very well hit, but other ones I feel like we could have fielded. So, uh, it’s not just one thing. Um, you know, Brandon is still going to return punts for us, but we also have, um, you know, Jeremiah that we can put back there, Carnell, Caleb, if we need to. Um, but we’re going to stick to it, but we got to get better. There’s no question that that’s that’s something coming out of the game that was a red flag that we got to get fixed. Right. Barry, uh, as you looked at the film of Julian, what jumped out? anything surprise you? How pleased were you with uh what you saw? I thought he had a good rhythm again. He he started fast, which was another good sign. I think he was accurate. The ball came out on time. Uh we pushed the ball down the field a little bit and he was accurate with those throws down the field. Um so I mean those were the things probably that jumped out. Um again, a lot of things, you know, u there were guys open, you know, and so that was good. He did his job. But you know, I think, you know, you’re seeing, you know, how quick the ball comes out. he is seeing the seeing the field well and you know it was good to see him push the ball down the field as well because he does have a strong arm and when we can stretch the field vertically horizontally and then run the ball and that’s when we’re at our best. Fourth row middle catch MY Ryan you talked last week about coach Hart lining up in the box and and that before the season you also mentioned to us like wanting to sort of stay off of Julian and let Billy talk to him. Just how through the first two games do you feel like you’ve managed it this year without Chip Brian doing it for the first time? And how’s it been for you on that? Yeah. Um, I think it’s been good. I think we have a lot of guys in that room who have been around together. This is the first time Tyler’s kind of gone through with us, but there’s a lot of familiarity with how we do things. Uh, so I think it’s been good, you know, and for Brian, um, you know, he’s really organizing it well now and calling it and, you know, Keenan has a lot of input, Tyler has a lot of input, Billy has a lot of input, Carlos has a lot of input, and then I obviously have a lot of input as well. and then try to help the best we can and organize the call sheet so that we’re we’re ready to go and we have plans in place. I think the communication so far has been clean. Um but again, bigger challenges ahead. We got to keep building and stay ahead of the curve, but um so far it’s been it’s been solid. I don’t think we’ve seen Logan George yet, but he hasn’t been on the availability report. Do you have anything you can up? Yeah, we’re hoping to see him play this week. So, full week of practice here. Um he did practice last week. We held them from the game, but uh we’re expecting them to have a full week of practice and be ready to go on Saturday. Second row middle. Ryan, um especially in the transfer portal world, having a veteran backup quarterback, I don’t know if that feels like maybe more difficult to do than it used to do. Sometimes your backup’s just a young guy on the way up. Um the how much do you want to prioritize that maybe when you can? And just having a guy like Lincoln here, how important is that for a team? Yeah, I I think Lincoln played well. probably graded out a champion. Um you saw him run um a couple couple um you know the short yardage and then he pulled it on the on the read. Um and so he he’s he’s a good athlete. I think he he made some good decisions. He threw the ball well. So he’s an important part of the team and um you know we’re going to need him. We’re going to need both he and Julian this year and you know we’ll we’ll keep figuring out how that fits. But um but yeah, I I I think he had a good week of practice last week and if he can, you know, piggyback the game that he had on Saturday with another uh really solid week here, you know, I think that’s good for the team. So, we’ll see how that what that means moving forward. But I know, you know, we’re going to need him. He’s um you know, he’s he’s a a good leader. Guys respect him. He’s a good athlete. He’s a good player. So, um he’s working hard at it. And you know, he knows at some point he’s going to get his chance. and when he does, he’s got to continue to keep pushing and and make the best of it. Um, I got a lot of respect for Link and I think that room is pretty tight. Front row, Adam Jordy. Ryan, did you consider taking a knee at the end before scoring the final touchdown against Graham? Uh, no. No, we were just going to keep getting better. Uh, you know, the snaps are the snaps. The scoreboard’s a scoreboard. You know, we’re not trying to at that point. You know, it really um the score was irrelevant. Um, and we’re not trying to ever um, you know, show anybody up or anything like that, but these guys need these reps and and that’s why, you know, we’re um, you know, putting them in the game is to get better. We didn’t want to throw the ball down the field late in the game. I think we tried to, you know, be respectful there. But up and through the third quarter, we were trying to, you know, get Lincoln some reps because it’s important for us, you know, that’s why we play the game. Once we got, you know, Tavian in the game, it was pretty controlled, a couple things underneath and we just ran it. Um, but, you know, it was good to see like I told the guys when you go in the game, like it’s okay to score. That’s why you’re in the game is to score points. You’re not in here to just run the game out. And so we challenge those guys to get it on film and get better. So, um, so yeah, we’re just going to keep playing and try to get those guys reps. Stephen means kind of going back to 2020 and 2021 when we’re in the midst of COVID. You guys are trying to recruit, but you’re doing it from your houses, not necessarily getting a chance to get on the road. I know you guys put together good classes, but how did that impact you guys’ ability to maybe evaluate some guys that maybe were a little bit lesser known out there and maybe find some diamonds in the roughs that you wanted to add to the class when you don’t have the camps and all the things that you guys do in the offseason? Well, um what you try to do is you try to build as many relationships as you can with people surrounding the recruits so you can get as much information as possible. And I think uh the more information you have, it certainly um you know makes it easier to make decisions on on guys, you know, and and um leads to less mistakes. So um the more we can do and get out and see these guys and watch them in camp and get around them, the more we learn about them. The less time we have, we have to now rely on coaches in the area, people who um you know are familiar with the recruit, um coaches on other teams who play against them. you got to really do your homework because um that’s what’s most important and it’s always been important to make great decisions and evaluate but I would say right now where we are in college football up until this point it’s the most important it’s ever been and we got to be on point with our evaluations. Did that maybe accidentally prepare you for what you’re talking about now and that evaluation part being so much more important than maybe it’s ever been? I think any of those any of those things um help prepare you for when you got to make great great evaluations and a big part of that is you know the personnel that we have here and a big part of that is the coaches. So, you know, in the recruiting department and the personnel department, you know, these guys are going to go through, watch the film, give their evaluations, and then as coaches, you know, we, you know, we go on the road and, you know, we see and get a feel for it like live and in color, get around the coaches, get around the teammates, get around their, you know, teachers, get around everybody to find out what type of people they are. Do they kind of fit our culture? And then hopefully get a live evaluation like, you know, next week, you know, we’ll be going on the road and getting a chance to see these guys. And so how you know trying to make sure that that matches up with the evaluations we have here with recruiting and then it’s good to have discussions and conflict and and argue about things. I mean if everyone’s just saying the same thing usually it’s not good. So I think trust is important and chemistry is important to make sure that we’re all on the same page. Right next door Bill Landis. Ryan, uh what has been your assessment of Max Claire through two games? What have you liked? Where have you like identified his areas for growth? I think he’s playing faster and faster. You watch the film the other day. I mean he was moving around well. um you know, didn’t get as many touches, but the tight ends did. Um we’ll keep building the package for him, but uh I think he’s he’s gotten much, you know, faster and faster as he’s come out of camp. Excited to see where the next couple games go. Is there any um I guess not to speak ill of of where he was before, but but there’s just a lot of different athletes around him on this team. You always talk about young guys having to get used to the speed of the game. Is there anything for an older guy like Max getting used to kind of having more speed around him? I I think you’d have to ask him that question, but I do think that the preseason for him was a challenge because, you know, of the the speed was one thing, but just the overall physicality of playing the tight end position where you got to block like an offensive lineman, protect like a running back, run routes like a receiver. Um there’s just a certain level that you got to build up to with when it comes to that. Um and and you know, I think the preeason was a challenge for him, but he came out the back end and he’s stronger because of it. Um, and so yeah, to to to your point, I mean, it’s it’s not easy. It’s not easy for you to come right in here and match the physicality of the dayto-day when maybe, you know, you weren’t used to it. Um, so he’s he’s becoming a better Baron player and I think he’s going to have a big year for us. Front row, we’re only two games in obviously, but but what’s your kind of assessment of the coordinators? Brian, you touched on Brian a little bit uh and Matt. Um, so far so good, but are there any things that that they’re still adjusting to or has it been pretty seamless? I think this the staff chemistry, I actually mentioned this to the staff today, is is very good. I think everyone’s working together well. U, I think the energy in practice has been good. I think the messaging to the players has been good. But, you know, where we’re going moving forward is going to be a big part of how we coach and what we identify. And so, you know, we have got to fix the issues that maybe don’t show up last week. Um, and we got to project out what is the right mix of things that we’re doing well that is our foundation, but not getting into a situation where, you know, we’re getting picked on in terms of schematics and someone’s got something, you know, that they can look at and get uh a step ahead of. Also, having enough curve balls in there that that you’re ahead of that, but then not doing too many new things where you can’t execute anything. And that’s the balance that we have to continually find. So, it’s very very difficult in my opinion to make an assessment after two games. Um, obviously the first game was was a big challenge, but it was it was just it was the first game. There’s just a lot of clunkiness to that game and it was great to get the win, but where we’re going is just totally different than than where we’ve been these first two games. So, um, you know, a lot of work to do. We got to keep building. But that’s that’s what’s exciting about this team. I think they want it. I think they have a good edge to them. I think they’re growing up every day. Not not everybody as fast as we want them to, but they’re they’re getting there and the more they play, the faster they’re going to grow up. Joe, good. Good. Go ahead. Matt Patricia is on the sideline. I think most coordinators have been the defensive court has been upstairs. What went into that decision? That was his decision. Yeah. Um I left it up to him. Just get off the field on third down. Joe, go ahead. with uh Riley Pettan being named the defensive player of the game. Rare for a true fresh. What did you always make of that play that he had right in the hole? Yeah, it’s it’s a it’s a sometimes I I know the score um was great, but it sometimes hard to pick a player of the game in a game like that when maybe um you know guys didn’t get a ton of reps, but uh in a short um you know sample of plays, he may had a lot of production. So, it spoke for itself and we did what was right and gave it to him even though he’s a freshman. kind of rare, but it’s the right thing to do. And, you know, we can’t not give it to him because he’s a freshman. He deserves it. And um but I also know he knows that the the challenges that are coming are going to be a lot different than we faced this past week. But hey, you got to take those. This is what we’re just talking about. When you have reps, and let’s just say it’s 15 reps, you go as hard as you possibly can. And and then the more you you play like that, the more you’re going to get on the field. And so, um this is somebody who’s getting more and more action on special teams and he’s going to get more and more action at linebacker as well. over here today. You know, Ryan, some coaches don’t love these instate games because at least from a branding standpoint, there’s a whole lot to lose, not a lot to gain. Kind of South Florida to Florida over the weekend. I know Trestle played a ton of these. Urban maybe not quite as many. What’s your philosophy on Ohio State hosting the instate? You know, I I kind of leave that up to Ross to to, you know, schedule these games. And I I think it’s good for the state. I think it’s great uh for the state of Ohio. Um, I know OU has a a very proud tradition and um, you know, there’s a lot of Ohio players on the roster who, um, you know, are going to come into the shoe and and, um, you know, want to play really hard and play really well and win the game. So, um, I I think it’s good for the state. Uh, I think it’s, um, you know, great for, you know, their school. I think it’s great for our school. And, um, you know, when you’re from the state of Ohio, having a memory of playing in the horseshoe during your college career is significant. And um we know these guys are going to be playing with their hair and fire. Joey, what what kind of Patrick Dear or Parker is the type of quarterback who can who can move a little bit and make some some throws while he’s on the run. What kind of test does does he pose? Yeah, you’ve watched what he’s done against two power five opponents, one Big 10 opponent, and uh he’s done some really good things. You know, he’s uh you know, spread the ball around. He can make plays off schedule. He’s got good quickness, competitive player. Um, but ultimately, you know, to me, he’s a winner and did that last week. So, um, you know, it’s it’s it’s a good challenge for us. Kevin Robinson, Ryan, after the game on Saturday, you talked about offense. At what point do you remember for the last couple years when you were looking at the roster and look kind of foreseeing the future where you might be able to play so much 14 personnel or was that just a matter of you got Max out the portal, you got Will out the portal and just kind of this started a couple years ago when when you just stay in 11, you know, there are ways that you know team schematically can defend you. Um, if you’re just exclusively one thing after a while, this is what I try to tell the coaches all the time, they’re going to get you eventually. And we’ve been 11 around here for a long time. So, the ability to jump into 12 and 13 personnel gives us something different. It’s a change up. And um when in my opinion when a defensive player goes from 11 to 12 to 13 back to 11 to tempo to empty and all these different things come into play it’s harder for them to nail down exactly what you’re doing. If you’re always in 11, you’re always in one tempo, it’s a lot easier for them to kind of zero in on what you’re doing. So we want to put as much stress. We’ve always felt that way. And as the game has evolved year in and year out, we try to stay a step ahead. And a couple years ago, you know, we realized that the tight end position and having wide receivers that can block were critical. So to me, if you’re just doing one thing, no good. You have to be able to be a a a tight end that can run routes or a receiver that can block. If you’re just a receiver that can run routes or you’re just a tight end that can block, you don’t bring a lot to the table in terms of value. Not saying you can’t play, but teams can start to narrow in on what you can do and then they start to really dive into, you know, what they’re going to get when you’re in the game. So, the more versatility guys have, the better. Conversation you and Anton maybe had in the recruiting in the recruiting aspect of trying to build this room up or is it just development guys and a little bit of both. We knew that we wanted to again have these guys that had versatility and and then what you do is you take a look at what you have on the team that year and you build it around those guys. So, uh I think we’ve always wanted to utilize our tight ends and we’ve had some really good tight ends that have come, but now that we probably are deeper there than we’ve been in the past. Right in front. Yeah, Ryan, you open with Texas and two non-matchup games then your idol. That seems like a really good setup. allow you to reset as long as you win the first game. Right. Right. Do you how much do you map up going into a season? How much do you map up or segment out the season like pieces without looking too far ahead? No, that’s it’s exactly what it is. I mean, as you could imagine, um like the entire focus of August was to beat Texas because you you look at, you know, the buy, you look at kind of the way it shakes out, like that was the focus and then all right, where are we going from here? what are we going to build from here? And and there was install that we had during the during August that, you know, we were projecting out and planning and prepping and those types of things, but ultimately like that was always right there every day. You know, there was a part of practice that we were focused there. And so, um, so, you know, once you you you get done with that game, you know, you have to recognize, okay, what’s coming next? And then, you know, this this is really what our focus is. is, you know, when we take a step back, yeah, you’re able to recognize some trends in the year where, you know, you may see a little bit of a focus here, focus there. Um, and we talk about that in the preseason, not as much obviously now. Right now, it’s all on Ohio. It’s um our preparation for these guys and playing well and really trying to master our process, our practice, you know, because this is still really only our second full game week. The first week is kind of funky because you you’re coming off of camp and every I mean you know we had a week to get ready last week, we have a week to get ready this week and each day our Monday is significant. Our Tuesday is a bloody Tuesday like this is a big day. Then we have our Wednesday and we have our and everything is very segmented. And so having the discipline to master each one of those days as we play on Saturday is like kind of where we are right now. And so we got to we got to focus in on winning this game. Uh and then we’ll kind of figure out what’s coming next. But yeah, as you can imagine, we do look at those things in kind of windows. All right, we got time for two more. We’ll go first to Steve Hack. Yeah, coach. Uh I think uh Jeremy Birmingham asked you a question a week or two ago about recruiting and just in this new landscape, uh the difficulty I guess in getting the commitment, holding on to the commitment, and you know, at the same time seeing guys go to other schools or whatever. I don’t know if you’re continuing to recruit guys. Just uh your thought about where this is headed and and the job I guess that you and your staff have tried to do with this year’s class. Yeah. Well, you know, it really comes down to, you know, once you get to December, you know, that that’s what’s going to matter. You’ve seen now more than ever where you see guys, you know, commit some place, go somewhere else, and and things change. So, um, you know, we feel like we have some really good guys committed right now and, you know, we’re going to make a hard push here, um, over the next couple months to finish out the class and then figure out, um, you know, what’s right in the transfer portal for us. But, um, you know, we we feel like it’s really important to make sure we have the right guys and the right fit and our coaches are working hard towards that and have all the confidence in the world we’re going to sign a great class. We’ll wrap it up. front row center. Uh Jeremiah Smith talked at length after the game on Saturday how bummed out he was about those drops in the first game and stuff and right on down the line. What does that tell you about him? I mean his work ethic etc. I mean you rave about him all the time but uh the way he bounced back so to speak but he needed that game even though the opponent was what it was right. Well he’s very very competitive very proud. works his tail off every day in practice. I mean, we try to pull him back say and it’s it’s, you know, he fights you on it because he just wants to get better every day. It’s just the mindset and makeup and and he is an unbelievable example. And I think sometimes our players, you know, I know the wide receivers probably do and some of the guys on offense of, you know, look at Jeremiah. Do you ever see Jeremiah do this? Do you ever see, you know, and after a while, I think they get tired of it, but it’s because he sets the example every day. And when you have your best players who have that type of work ethic, a guy like Carnell Tate, I mean, what an example he sets for other guys. Brandon Inis, you know, I mean, and so your best players are the ones that are setting the tone, and that that’s a great sign, but um you when he drops a ball, it’s it’s nobody even bats an eye. I mean, certain we’re disappointed, but it’s not like anybody thinks he’s not going to catch the next one. Um, you know, because what we see in practice every day tells us that he’s he’s going to catch the next one. So there’s never any doubt there. And we have all the confidence in the world. And that’s one of the things that I try to share with the guys all the time. The harder you work in practice and the more you do it in practice, the more confidence you have when you’re on the field. You know, if if you’re not doing in practice every day, you aren’t going to have confidence. It’s like going into a test and not being prepared. If you don’t know, you know, the material when you go into a test, yeah, you’re nervous because you don’t know what’s going on. But if if you’ve studied your tail off and you know exactly what’s on that test, you walk in, you take it, and you walk out. It’s the same way as we prepare for games. and Jeremiah is a great example of somebody that prepares really hard. Are you a fan, by the way, of the proposed change in the transfer portal to uh one time January? Where do you stand on that? Yeah, I I No. Um I don’t think it’s a good idea at all. Um in the conversations that we had with the Big 10 coaches, I think the the majority of them agree. Um, I just don’t quite understand how, um, you know, for teams that are playing in the playoffs are expected to, you know, make the decisions and sign their their upcoming players while they’re still getting ready to play for games. Um, it doesn’t make any sense to me. I know the calendar is funky, but um, you know, I know that the Big 10 and Tony Patiti has been working hard because he doesn’t believe it either, and neither do the coaches in the Big 10. We had a lot a lot of long discussions about that and tried to work through the different windows. U but I don’t agree with it being in January.