Lessons from Ryder Cup disasters past, Golf Advice on extremely weird rounds | The Shotgun Start

This Whiparound Friday episode might as well be a show about nothing with not much going on in golf this week. Andy and Brendan start with a quick rundown of an early leaderboard at the Procore with players like Mackenzie Hughes and Matt Kuchar leading the way. They then move to the BMW PGA on the DP World Tour where auto-qualifier Rasmus Hojgaard struggled on Thursday. Andy takes that baton and runs with it, explaining that the Ryder Cup captains need to be more cutthroat and sit struggling players until Sunday singles if that’s what is best for the team. This leads into an impromptu Flashback Friday on the 2018 Ryder Cup at Le Golf National in Paris, France. Andy and Brendan remember some crazy decisions made by the American side, such as making a “celebratory” Tiger Woods play four times that week and pairing a rookie Bryson DeChambeau with a wild Phil Mickelson. They bring up supporting characters such as Thorbjorn Olesen playing with Rory McIlroy and the European team of “Moliwood” that effectively won the event on their own. As for the 2025 event, the Americans are out in full force in Napa and Keegan Bradley is calling this the “closest team he’s ever seen” – despite only seeing two teams prior to this. After a bunch of winding Ryder Cup chatter, some legendary Golf Advice emails send us into the weekend. A #HedgeBoy story from Cypress jogs Andy’s memory about a horrendous round in the area before Brendan reads an email about a member-guest caddie’s interactions with nature.

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Greetings and welcome to a Friday edition of the Shotgun Start. It is September 12th. Andy, how we doing, Brendan? I’m doing wonderful. I gotta say I’m uh I’m getting pumped. I’m prepped. I’m ready to go. Big weekend on tap of uh of football. What are you pumped and prepped for? What’s the weekend? Got my Ali first big test of the year. Duke wasn’t a big test. That’s kind of feels like you’re you’re minimizing Duke. Who do they play? We got We’re at Indiana. Oh, okay. That’s this weekend. Yeah. I thought it was next week. Maybe. No, it’s next weekend. Never mind. So, you’re not prepped. You’re not pumped and prepped at all. I thought that was next week. It is next weekend. You’re right. Got my weekends mixed up. I just was so excited. I got my dr package. Yeah, we got which I believe is for a next week Dratty Datty week too as well. You’re excited. You’re ready for your Alii. Who do they play this week or not? Yes, I’m ready for the Bears versus the Lions, too. Oh god. What I’m not ready for is Browns Ravens. That’s up the way, you know. Not ready for that. BC plays at Stamford at 10:30. Nice little kickoff kick time for people in Boston. 10:30 p.m. Eastern time. just a total abomination. Uh Michigan State’s playing USC or UCLA, one of those. They kick off at 11. Just just college football has lost its way. They need somebody to come in and lay the law down on at least conference conference realignment. Uh but yeah, we got Western Michigan this week. Okay. Okay. Well, that’s good luck. Best of luck to you against them and the the Lions. I can’t believe we’re nine in the country. like eight or seven by by next week. Yeah, it I mean it’s that’s a fun place to be right now. You got Indiana in a week. It seems like that’ll be fun. It’s good to have big games even in September. Um there’s not a lot of big golf games going on in September. I I suppose we’ll give a quick rundown of the Wentworth where Tim Valiant Valiant, he’s a Frenchman. He shot a 64. He’s tied with Levig Oberg uh in the first round at Wentworth. Uh Ryder Cupers all seem to be doing decently enough except Raasmus autoqualifier despite doing you know middling work I would say this this year you know he didn’t win anything shot a 74 he’s tied for 117th might be team turmoil might have drama in Europe uh with a week to go Raasmus last guy in Tommy Fle also overpar but everybody else in the red go ahead do you think they should go one match with them. Well, or they could do the Yarmmo. Yeah. Well, that is the Yarmmo. I suppose we don’t see him. You tuck him away till Sunday at noon at some point. No, I think he’ll probably play. I think that’s underrated. An underrated move. Just bury somebody on the bench all weekend. I mean, should happen to Phil at Lake Golf National. These captains need to be more cutthroat. I mean, did he to realize, you know what, this if this guy stinks, I’m only going to allow him to to sabotage one match. I mean, that guy, you cannot put these guys out there if they suck. Well, ostensibly, they suck less when you could you’re able to pair them with a fourball situation. They have to just But then you’re just weighing down the other guy. I understand that, but there’s the notion of they have to see action. They have to see live rounds before the live action and live round before they before Sunday hits. I mean Mark James, right? Wasn’t he the RDER Cup captain in 90? I got lamb based but again his was a little more dramatic until then it really worked until the singles. I mean that’s like saying you know I don’t know what we had him in the first half like I don’t they lost they lost. It didn’t work. They lost. If I w if I was a RDER cup captain, I would play my horses. I I believe in this also in college basketball, for example. These college basketball coaches, they’re 40minute games. There’s tons of timeouts. These kid, they’re 18, 19 year old kids. They can play way more minutes than they play. Are you talking about like tournament games or you’re not talking about any game January? You’re talking about December. I’m running I you know what I’m I’m just running my stars into the ground. I’m I’m going with the Thibido approach. I’m gonna have a short bench. If I was the RDER Cup captain, I would just play my top guys who are playing the best as much as I as I possibly can. And I’m not putting out some guy that just hits the ball off the toe all the time or, you know, somebody somebody who shoots 74 at Wentworth. Bobby Mack, Raasmus. God, taking some pops of people here. I mean, Bobby Mack might be one of the best players on Rob, you know, who knows where Rom standing is these days. I can’t wait for your daughter, you know, to get into you sports a little bit in a few years and you’re the coach and you’re one of those coaches that keeps the best player on the floor for all like in like fifth grade boys or girls girls basketball like, “Hey, you know, coach, you got to do even subs.” Like, no, we run them into the ground. Best guys stay on the floor. best guys get the ball every play in flag football. Whatever it is, I I need you doing that a few years. Um I played I played a neighborhood dad in a high stakes game of horse the other day. High stakes. What What does that mean? It legitimate. I was uncomfortable with the amount of money he wanted to play horse for. Especially cuz I I hadn’t shot, you know, I hadn’t shot a basketball since my my accident. And I I realized he had no left hand and I just went to the well. Sure. Over and over and over again. That’s great. That’s a liability in horse. You got to be able lefty floater all day. You know, as a under sixfoot guard in my my more formative years, you had to have the lefty floater. I like that. Be able to switch hands and deak him out of that righty flo. I like that. I mean, when he when he wanted to play for that kind of money, I had no issue just going to the well. Yeah. Send them home with a little less granola walking around cash. There you go. Go to a lefty floater. You know what it was? It was a wonderful wonderful Venmo to get it. Basically paid for all my all my beverages uh that night that day and night. That’s great. Love it. I love high stakes game of horse. All right. Yeah. I was I couldn’t believe how much he wanted to play for. That’s good. Um, so Raasmus stakes at uh Wentworth right now. We’ll see. We’ll see what happens over at the Pro Court. Can you make the case against just putting somebody on the bench? What’s the case against putting somebody on the bench? Like Phil Lealf National. I was actually we were doing these we were doing these bio situation for uh for RDER Cup. We’re got a website. We got a cool website page. We got a lot of news coming next week. We got a big hub coming for Ryder Cup. We’ll be at Ryder Cup later this month. Yeah. Can we talk about how big of a disaster Paris was? I mean, this podcast existed then. It’s month three of this podcast. And boy, did we talk about how big a disaster was. That was mana from heaven. The podcast got off the ground maybe because of that being such a disaster. Might not have made it to month four. Um, that has to be one of the worst performances in Ryder Cup history. I was looking through it like they okey doked him. They drew him into the lion’s cage with a fresh piece of meat and then just slaughtered him. Like it was just not a fair fight with the course setup and the prep and planning. And I mean, Furick was caught on on the back foot to say the least. I don’t know if I blame him that much. It was just a It was a It was a team of misfits. Let’s be honest. Are we doing like mini flashback? You want do Should we run down? Let’s do it off of recall here. Well, you had Tiger had just won. And I don’t mean to get uncomfortable, but he seemed, you know, celebratory. Let’s just put it gently that way given he had just won Atlanta. Didn’t seem fully engaged in the in the week. Uh from the flight from Atlanta over for the rest of the week. Could I say the most ridiculous thing about that Rder Cup? I mean, there’s options. Go ahead. Do you know what the score of the match was after the first session? Uh, good question. God, I covered this like minute by minute. Was the US Did the US lead after the first one, right? And then they lost the four in the afternoon. US was up 3-1. Okay. After the morning session, okay. And then then Europe went on a 71 run. That’s right. Cuz you brought you brought Phil. That’s what I’m saying. These guys, if they stink, don’t play him. God, it’s the easiest way to tank. They brought this. Bryson went 0 and three. Phil was unplayable. This honestly reminds me of like coaching grade school hoops. Like you just throw your guys out, try to get a lead and then there’s a kid who can’t tie his own shoes at the end of the bench. He comes out and you lose your lead immediately. Phil was horrible. You have Justine talking to the press walking around the grounds. Uh Bryson completely unplayable. Fenow not present. Tiger disengaged. I’ll just put it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Celebrating and not fully present. Um, uh, Patrick Reed just chafing, you know, about JT playing with speed. This is just being, you know, shaved in the back allegedly by Spath. Bubba was sick doing the elbow. That’s that’s all I remember is that Bubba Bubba just laying around watching them because he couldn’t play the first three sessions. That’s really all I remember is he was on the team, right? Not an assistant. He was actually on the team. Boba Boa was on the team. I love it that Phil first ever concession on a T- box. Like you win the match on before the ball even went in the water. I mean, think about that. Literally turns around and shakes his head. like a ball had not even gone in the water yet. Think about the circumstances have to come together where you’re conceding on a tea box. It’s not totally unheard of, but I mean, come on. That’s glorious. Not, you know, in a bunker just hacking it up, but out the tea. Incredible. Incredible. Paris was a mess. I felt bad for Jim Furick. I think he did put a lot into that. And so this is Bryce’s Bryce’s introduction to RDER Cup play. That’s right. It was only a way away RDER Cup. His f his first session he has to play alternate shot with Phil, right? With Phil who cannot cannot keep the ball on the planet. So if somebody can’t keep the ball on the planet, the worst thing you could do is put them out an alternate shot. God, because you just like can’t you can’t play with somebody who can’t keep the ball on the playing field. Like you just like best you could just play your own ball conceivably. So he loses five and four. I want to say and Norin. Yeah. So then the next day they sent him out again in alternate shot and who did they pair him with? Disengaged Tiger Woods. Bryson. Oh god. And they go up against Molly Mollywood. Just a sloth. And they lose five and four again. Thomas Bjorn just like a pig and [ __ ] Just watching these guys just fall right into the trap. Um there was one film miss and I I’m just going off top of my head that was so bad. I was like cackling out like he hit it into this like you know how they pushed like the merch tent just in the middle of a field because they hit it somewhere where there was not conceived play would not was not conceived of or he like missed it on the wrong side of a hazard crossed over the lake till the bat. Phil was a dis. So was Patrick Reed let’s be honest he did a lot of carping to Karen Krauss in the New York Times uh the Sunday or Monday after which was great content but he was terrible too. Blame Tiger about Tiger apologized to him. You remember that Tiger apologized to me for having to, you know, and he was bad. He was bad himself. Uh, that was a great one. So, what were you writing that this this jinned up? Who are you talk who are you focused on when you’re writing your little player profile for the Ryder Cup? Well, a couple people came up in 2018. Bryson being one of them. And you just look at the US records from that one. And like you know you do these obviously this is alltime RDER cup season records you know everybody will be like this is their but then when you drill into like individual ones where they’re just complete disasters um you know and likewise like whistling straits for the Europeans was a nightmare situation. Now, a lot of the players on that that team are not on this team, but like Victor Havlin went 0 and3 at Whistl Straits. You know, Roy didn’t have a good week. Was Rahm on that team? Rahm was the only one that played well and then Sheffler Sheffller took him out to the Yeah. to the back on Sunday. Um, I just one of my lasting images of of the Whistling Straits Rider Cup was John Rom’s dad just being a lunatic inside the ropes. What was he doing? Just cheering. Oh, okay. He seems like a a decent fellow. I don’t know. He’s very passionate. Yeah. Yeah. Seemed like a good guy when I walked with them at the Masters. Um, this brings me to a to a a thing I’ve been pondering this morning. And Keegan is out at the Brocore just riding around in a cart. I think this is kind of disrespectful. Out in full gear. Yeah. I mean, is this the Procore or is this just practice? This feels disrespectful to the world’s number one construction software and everybody associated with Procore that works their ass off Procore. I wonder how what Rollap thinks about this this PGA Tour event being made a mockery for an event they don’t own. A little dry run, little playground. It’s I mean he’s got a cart. He’s just bombing around. No, he’s out there and everybody’s basically paired together minus Bryson and Xander. Um it’s kind of I I forgot that Rahm played in 2018. He was a baby then. He was on Oh, yeah. That’s right. He was tearing up. He beat Tiger. Yeah. Oneonone two and one. Yeah. Um that’s right. You know who else was a big big win on Sunday? who you know the gentleman took down well took down a guy. Oh, he took Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Five and four over speed. I think like a have in singles in Ryder Cup five of Ryder Cups or something like that. I think he h haved on uh somebody last time around. Um but yeah, the piss bear was with uh with Rory I believe was paired with Rory at one point in that Paris Rder Cup. uh just urinating all over Paris, urinating points. Um so Keegan’s bouncing around the Brocore and he did a few interviews, some good stories, other presses out there, Bob Harriet, a write up and Si Paulo etiquette article and and ESPN and you know on Wednesday Keegan says it he believes quote it’s the closest team I’ve ever seen. I mean, we just plug and play this in every time. And it might be, but we’re now the boy who cried camaraderie at this point. How am I supposed to believe this? We heard this in Rome. And I I guess I believe it then. You know, Max and Klay like this is literally the closest. All this stuff about team turmoil is [ __ ] You know, people are complaining about, you know, guys want to get paid who don’t want to get paid. No, we’re the closest we’ve ever been. That might have been true. Now we’re saying it again. I’d add Keegan. How many has Keegan seen? He’s only seen two. You know, it’s the closest team I’ve ever seen. Is that a fair point? Well, I And also, I’d just like to point out that I can’t imagine any team that included Phil and Tiger were going to be close. Could ever be. like they could just diametrically couldn’t be close because the their two best players didn’t like each other and probably drew lines down the sand, you know? Yeah, I do find it I find it nice that they’re all out there. It seems like they’re there purely as a team building exercise. I’ll say leaderboard is downright pro Corey, downright fryzy, downright fall PJ tour golfy. It’s very early. Yeah, it’s 11. It’s 11 a.m. That’s fair. That’s fair. I’m just going to choose to believe this is where we’ll be Sunday afternoon. McKenzie Hughes, Mccardi, Lanto, uh Jackson Quaven coming in there late. Davis Thompson, David Skins, one of my favorite names in golf. Anders Albertson or you call him Anders, I believe. Jonathan Bird, who you know, come on. He’s in the is one foot on the Champions Tour. One foot. How’s he even in the field? He got in on his own number. Chad Ramy, who I couldn’t, you know, Matt Coocher, your guy is in. It’s because the Giants are hot. He’s, you know, the Giants are vying for a for playoff baseball and and he’s uh he’s trying to he’s trying to pull him in there. What I don’t see are any Rder Cup players, but again, very very early. It’s just a delightful little fall golf leaderboard. Ridiculous that you even are going down the leaderboard at this point. I mean, I need content. There’s not a lot to talk about. I think it’s pretty amusing the list of names. Um, Tom Johnson’s about to get on his horse. So, he’s So, Bradley said, you know, this week he’s used the opportunity to talk about potential pairings, quote, 90% of which are determined, so they’re all set. He wanted the players to be together in the setting away from the pressure and demands of the RDER Cup. Quote, it would be unusual for me to have, this is from Scotty, it would be unusual for me to have four or five weeks off before the master. or the US Open or something like that. So, there’s no reason that I should be doing that going into the RDER Cup. I’ll say this is exactly what they did going into the RDER Cup last time around. Nobody played for two months. So, uh in order to stay sharp, you can practice and you can do all you can at home, but there’s something different about playing competition. Um, I think just going to your Paris, your Paris bit, the Rome bit, we tend to be like immediately reactive. Does that make sense? It’s like that the team Europe seems to just have like a a north star and sometimes they get blitzed and beat taken to the woodshed and sometimes they don’t but they just kind of have a northstar have a process and occasionally you might get a captain with certain proclivities or personality that throws things off whereas it feels like I think this is the right thing to do. the US just is like, “Oh, here’s why it went bad last time. Here’s why we’re changing this time.” Does that make sense? Like, it’s just like a reactive on a two-year cycle with with a handful of names that remain the same. I think this is the right thing to do, but seems like they’re doing it simply because of the disaster that happened in Rome. They were all off for a month and a half or two months and and you know, Whistling Straits, it was different because of the disaster in Paris. And it’s just kind of they’re just kind of they switch it up every two years reacting to why it went bad the preceding time when sometimes maybe it’s just you know they don’t know how to win it or it’s very hard to win an away Ryder Cup. I think this is a huge stakes Ryder Cup. I you know I don’t didn’t mean to make this Rder Cup Central here. We’re but we’re talking about we’re here. I don’t know what we’re going to do next week but uh or the week after. Maybe we’ll just talk about football next week. We could do that. Um the uh Well, save a take if you got a big take. No, no. I This is This is a This is This is just spurred off of your your thinking. This is a high stakes Ryder Cup. I I’ll tell you why. I think a Dare Manner is like as American as American can get in terms of the next European Rder Cup. So, you know, like there’s like a really great opportunity for one of the teams with this Rder Cup to put the other one in a blender because if the Europeans win it, then all a sudden they’re going home and it could be three in a row and it could be back to kind of the chaos and the what’s wrong with the Rider American Rder Cup team discourse that we had what 10 or eight years ago now. Yeah. Tom Watson seems like it’s going to be Tiger there. The Dare Manner. So, um, what could go wrong with that, too? Tiger dare. This is my point. The end of last podcast. I don’t know. What if he What if he goes nepotism and brings Charlie on the team like Bronnie? I don’t think he’s going to do that. I mean, there’s a nonzero chance. No, there isn’t. There there you’re right there is nonzero chance. Um he will be uh he’ll be you know in college at that point. What if he was what if he be this is now I’m just like being ridiculous here. You are if if Charlie’s Jackson Quavenven Do you know how loud that noise would be? It’s it’s such it’s such [ __ ] noise. It’s so stupid. Like I there’s just there’s too much media. There’s too much talking. There’s too much too many morning shows. It’s just too many influencers. There’s just too much. Andy, is this you calling dibs on the Charlie Woods uh Ryder Cup bio in in two years if it happens? You just get it for the Yeah, that’s right. You’re calling dibs. Who’s your favorite one that you wrote wrote up, Peach? Uh, Big Shot Bob, just because I I kind of kind of went kind of went Gino Smithy and uh everybody wrote him off last time, but Big Shot Bob has written back turn himself into a real golfer hitting it off the toe. Um, I enjoyed writing Shane Lowry. It’s kind of fun. See the bouncer again, putting Rory in the car, doing that whole thing. It feels like feels like we’re doing full RDER Cup podcast right now. Feels like Lowry in in the New York. There could be some tense moments that whole thing. I enjoyed writing him up. Listen, you said at the beginning of the pod that you were worried before the pod on text, we don’t have anything. So, just jinning up stuff. But, uh, you know what a a lasting moment of Lowry for me is? Was it that remember the singles match? I can’t remember who he played at Whistling Straits when he when he played it to like a half and it felt like a monumental like win for Yeah. uh Europe that they just got a match to 18. They played so few they played so few matches that got to 18. Yeah. Yeah. I did enjoy writing Colin because I am mused if he would change caddies between sessions. That got that little shot in there. you know, could you change from Friday, Thursday, Friday to Saturday to Sunday? Um, that was a fun one, but that’ll be up next week. I just, you know, I was I was bummed. Uh, I when I was writing Bryson, I wanted to lead with the first ever YouTuber to play in the RDER Cup, but Tommy’s, so I I went with the most popular YouTuber in the Ryder Cup. You got to qualify that. Pretty good. Pretty good. Uh, are you worried about anyone in particular? Is anything gonna change this week? Wentworth like at Harasmus, anything on the the American side, Procore, any anybody that like on the American side? Yeah. Colin, I’m worried about a lot of things about the Americans. I’m worried the this this uh, you know, dignified group of pampered Fs, oh, come on. could hit could see the the Long Island crowd turn on him. I mean, there’s a long history in the modern era of of of host venue staff rooting for the European team after they after they met both both sides of the teams like where where the people that work at at the course quickly decide, you know what, I’m rooting for the Europeans because they’re just better guys. I gota I gota after serving or making coffee or whatever it is or you know range picking something like that they’re like I want the euros to win. So honestly I’m worried about PJ’s people deciding when they when whenever the inevitable story leaks of how much these guys are getting paid this week. whenever that story leaks because you know it’s going to leak what the number is when that leaks I could see there being you know if they get out slow out of the gates that’s maybe the crowd just turns and roots for the Europeans is that that that’s that’s what I would be most worried about if I’m Americans then you then you walk away if you lose and you the the crowd turns turns against you I mean Ben Johnson got booed booed in his first game at Soldier Field You look around. You look around right now. Mets stink might be dead in two weeks by the time the Giants are tracking them down. Yankees stink might be dead in two weeks by the time this happens. The Jets and Giants probably won’t have a win by the time this happens. This is going to be a hot button topic for the New York sports crowd. Jaylen Brunson and uh is going to be out there podcasting. Yeah, it this things might uh it’s going to be an ang there’s going to be some angst. There’s gonna be some angst for sure. It’s an interesting interesting dynamic. I think there’s a lot of patriotic fervor, but we’ll see. We’ll see. It can turn quickly. Do you think the number is going to leak to somebody? What do you mean leak? That they’re getting paid that it’s out there that they’re getting $400,000 a portion of which is going to charity, a portion of which is going to I don’t know, a new roof. I I don’t know on their houses. Maybe request. Maybe request will leak what they what they were asking for. Yeah. Might might, you know, guys with Sterling because I don’t think they were asking for what they got. Red, white, and blue. Sort of, you know. Yeah. Bleed red, white, and blue, but only for a price. Is that what you’re saying? Is that what you’re saying? Might might come out. Okay. All right. Well, it’s interesting. It’s interesting dynamic. We’ll see what the crowd does. But I know one thing the crowd will love and be and and just crawl over each other to support and get to whatever they could. And that’s club champion.com. PJ, if you look up where the Long Island Club Champion locations because I know they’ve got hundreds of locations nationally, internationally, and you can find one at club champion.com. You can also go to the URL club champion.comfried egg and you get a free driver or iron fitting with a club purchase using the promo code fried egg at the website. The promo code is fried egg, one word. So you get a free iron or driver fitting with a club purchase. Um Oh, it’s really close to Beth Page. Really? There we go. You can hit up the Trackman and Sam Putt Lab in every studio. 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Again, the promo code it’s Friday to get a free driver or iron fitting with the club purchase. Uh I commend that to all the Long Island golf fans. Uh other news, we’re in the early in Procore Wentworth. Greg Norman says farewell. I thought he did already, but this is a second bite of the apple. A second uh swansson a long Instagram post full of spelling errors, which was great. He said the players and fans never wavered, but spelled it like a waiver you sign instead of wavering. Uh, pretty good. He announced he’s officially left live golf. It’s been an incredible chapter, and I’m so proud of what we’ve accomplished. My commitment to do what was and still is the right thing for golf. The players and the fans never wavered. Again, misspelling wavered there at the end. Uh, so he’s gone. I thought he was already. Nice, nice sentiment though in Instagram. Uh, Walker Cup ratings are in. They weren’t good. They just weren’t, you know, opening weekend of football. Not tough tough task. What did they come in at? Uh, they were sent to me cuz someone didn’t want to didn’t want to publicize them because they were so uh poulry. But, uh, it was 108,000 on Saturday night and 132 on Sunday night. This does not include the peacock numbers of midafter afternoon. So, doesn’t include the app numbers. No, I you know that was caffeine. Does it include the caffeine numbers? No caffeine. No imp, you know, Facebook video impressions baked in there. Uh 132, 108,000. Look, I mean, that was never going to be a big a big monster of a thing. That doesn’t they’re not marketing it to be a big thing. I just, you know, maybe maybe that’s why not get I I don’t know. It’s just not it wasn’t a huge thing. also got word from across the pond that my my contention was was accurate and that it was a disaster for international viewing just like a mess as you would expect. He said there was zero promotion uh two bursts of coverage which were all in the middle of the night and uh you saw almost no Cypress Point unless you were doom scrolling Instagram or FOMO inst scrolling Instagram. So, uh, yeah, that’s one half of the the equation here or the competition. So, not great ratings for W Cup, but can we, uh, can we follow up on last week’s flashback Friday? Yeah, sure. What was that? Our guy G. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we looked into that a little bit more. Total exoneration. Good guy Gar. I might ret might rephrase him. Good guy. Legend legend of Ireland and uh, exonerated. Somebody just Somebody just sent $60,000 of cocaine to him. Yeah, he got jammed like with a capital J. Let’s just put it that way. Uh set up. Set up. Good guy. Guard got set up. Uh got jammed just so it wasn’t as we outlined and it Yeah. Got set up. You never been jammed until until $60,000 of cocaine shows up at your door. So when someone like takes your parking spot next time, you can just you can’t use the word jammed. You got you got to wait till the then you have the real scale. Um all right, other news. I I’ I’d like to point out that dur in the moment he said I’m totally innocent and will be doing anything I can to clear my name. Hopefully this clears his name too. Yeah. Yeah. An Irish amateur royalty. So good G. Um other news in Ireland. We’ll stay in Ireland. Irish uh Irish Open is going to trump Dunebeg European tour released their schedule for all of next year. It’s pretty much the same deal. lot of all these swings that I just can’t keep track of. The Asian swing, the leadoff swing, the you know, let’s just fill the gaps between whatever the Masters and PGA swing, but a lot of swings. The Irish Open though is a notable change or, you know, it changes every year, but Trump Dunebeg announced going there. Trump getting a just getting a a bounty of events. Remarkable really. Welcome. Welcome back. Think about where we are now versus where we were when they when they announced the uh they were moving Southern Hills. Yeah. Yeah. It’s interesting interesting interesting discussion. I was told that uh that one was was slotted or slated or or being pushed for Siggo, but uh it’s very remote Siggo. maybe not enough room to land private jets or or a a a convenient place to land the private jets and it was moved to Trump Dune. Uh other news, slow play penalties at the Sahali College event. Brenley wrote this up. Brenley just just absolutely machine gunning content out. Uh 15 strokes worth of slow play penalties. Love to see that. Just absolutely. Uh Jim Mororti, I guess, was the uh rules official. just crushing guys and there was some a lot of confrontation about it. The North Carolina guy was pissed off about it. It just seemed like a kind of a mess of of slow play penalties. He’s up in Sahali for that. Um, other news. Oh, uh, uh, we had a YouTube commenter. I want to give want to give, uh, full attention to all our fans or or not fans. God, we’re just nobody’s listeners, whatever, people entertained by this. Uh, all platforms on YouTube, there was a comment Reporting from the ground is what I’ll call it. I was at the Yankee game on Saturday against the Blue Jays. This is from I forget his name. Damn it, I didn’t write it down. He said Derek Derek Derek Pina or something or Pino I was at the Yankee game on Saturday against the Blue Jays. Don Rehea one bounced it in. The form looked good but just nothing behind it. Just just a great characterization. We need eyewitness. Nothing behind it. Didn’t see any RDER Cup Yankees hats. Not sure who got the Ryder Cup Yankees hats were the the giveaway on on Sunday and then they’re doing it again the week before, I believe. Okay, we should send you to go get one. I don’t want to go there. The Bronx. Yeah, you could go watch Tony Vulpi play his last games. No, nobody wants to go. Yeah, the if Anthony Vulpi showed up at the RDER Cup, that would be a good way to get the the crowd to turn for sure. That would be a good the Europeans should have him out. Who’s like a bad Who’s like the Mets version of that? Not current player, but like just a an alltime like Mets. Uh uh J Jason Bay was was like a historically terrible Met. Yeah. Historically terrible. What was his name? Jason Bay. He was on the Pirates and the Red Sox. Bay A like in the Bay Area. Yeah. Not I actually didn’t see that coming. I can see him fumbling for the button. You didn’t see that PJ God. He asked for clarification. Follow just trying to find the button. I actually You got me there. You got me. I actually didn’t see that one coming. I thought you said Jason Day. I was like kind of zoning out. I heard it. I was like, “Wait, what?” Oh, yeah. That’s good. Jason Bay, bring him out. Um, let’s go to Best Day Brewing Golf Advice. I’ve been just I’ve been crushing the best day brewing. I almost had one for lunch today. Electrolime. I was like, I don’t need the good thing about these. I’ve had these the last three nights. Like, this is someone who put a lot of time into creating a good what I would call Kulch last night. What’ you think of the Kulch? I love the Kulch. I got a uh I got firsthand account from a friend who got it who was like, “This stuff is amazing.” He had it all day on Sunday during Cyprus. The Kulsches were his big uh his big ones. He got into that. Um so I had I’ve had the Kulches Electroly. I got to say I steered away from the IPAs. There’s Hazy IPA and West Coast IPA. I dug into those the last two nights. I was just worried. Is it like a ton of calories and carbs? It’s not. It’s not. It actually has fewer. They’re all like 75 or below. 55 calorie IPA. So, good. Good. You’re not just putting like a brick in your stomach, you know? Uh it’s just great. And then you don’t feel worse the rest of the rest of the next day. I’ve been killing it. 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Um Best Day Brewing. kinds of cords problems. First one, uh, this is off our stories from Cypress Point last Friday. The subject line is # hedgeboy at Cypress Point. 25 no kids not interested in fighting. Hey guys, love the pot. I’ve been listening since I rediscovered my love for golf in college a few years back. As I’m listening to the episode leading up to the Walker Cup at Cypus, the story of BP’s first T-shot over the hedges brought back a core memory of my young golf life. However, the details are still hazy as I fully blacked out in the process of this taking place. As a young lad in 2016, I had the amazing privilege of playing Cypress Point as part of a Pebble Beach trip. This was before I really got back into the game, which is still my biggest golf regret, as I know I would appreciate the experience more to get today. Regardless, it’s one of the coolest things I’ve ever been able to do despite what unfolded on the first te. As Andy mentioned, we were the first group off that day as part of unaccompanied guest policy. And our group consisted of my dad, a five handicap uh lifelong golfer, my brother who would soon be a freshman playing division one golf, and myself, a basketball player who grew up playing a lot, but sworn a club maybe a few times a year at the time. I don’t remember the tea time, uh, but I do remember the fact that we did not go to the driving range before, which soon came to haunt me. We arrived the course likely around 6:00 a.m., went to the pro shop before heading back to the first tea box. Uh there was a group of members there early milling about the clubhouse as they were scheduled to tee off after us. Similar to the story we told on the pod. The members all decided to congregate around the first tea as we stepped up to the plate. I couldn’t tell you the order that we teed off in as I was trying not to think about the hedges. As my turn came up, I tried to get loose. I couldn’t help but think, man, those are a little higher than I would like right now. I take there’s cars driving. The hedges are there because there’s a road under. Yeah. I take my first swing straight into the hedges. I ret straight into the hedges again. At this point, I consider cutting my losses, but I’m current encouraged, you know, to quote just hit another. I teed up for a third time. Straight into the hedges again. Quote, I genuinely do not remember if I hit a fourth T-OT. Despite the most embarrassing moment, embarrassing moment of my golf life that I doubt will ever be topped. No pun intended. It’s impossible not to enjoy Cypress. Work of art. Uh special that it’s slightly more accessible than other course of its caliber. Hope this gives people a good laugh. It makes a cut for the pod. Appreciate everything you guys do. Um would you keep how how long would you keep hitting to make it a golf advice? I I don’t After the second, I would have been done. just throw one down or maybe watch for the second. I’m going up. I I feel so bad. I got all the members there to congregate to watch. I was I was playing around once in Chicago and I was flying the drone and it was like a fall morning. It was cold and I was playing with a very well-known golfer. Um and and also there’s like a congregation Yeah. And I I topped my first T- shot and it hit we were playing the back T’s. It hit the ball washer on the regular tea and shot back behind the tea. People were watching. It was so embarrassing because it was like that’s what people saw of my route. Yeah. Right. Right. And I played beautifully like the rest of the day. But it was I was standing in cold weather flying a drone and then walked to the T- box and my body was so stiff I just topped the ball. I’m not going after two. Two is it. Two. That’s it. I couldn’t after that happened to me. I couldn’t get off the T- box fast enough. I can’t believe he went for a third. If there was an up, they should have just like run him up like strike three. You’re out. I just rate them up Don Royale style. Yeah, I don’t go beyond two there. I think you go the second T box throwing down around the green, whatever it is. But yes, my life I’ve played golf with a lot of really weird people. Not a lot of really weird, not not a lot of really weird people. A lot of random people. Variety. And most of them are delightful. This story is about the weirdest person that I ever played with. So, it was pretty close to Cyprus actually this round and I was I was playing with a with a PGA Tour player like I’ve heard this. Yeah. And we get to this golf course and the guy like immediately he was a strange duck like very odd. And uh not the PJ tour player, this other guy and the host or the Okay. Okay. and uh he he was very excited to be playing with a PGA tour player and he invited a fourth and we we eventually found out he was a German fellow and we eventually found out that he met him that morning in line at Starbucks. the fourth that he invited. Fourth. He was like a German club pro was the fourth was the fourth and he met him met this guy in line at the Starbucks in the morning. That’s all right. No, no more needs to be told. I’m sure you have more like that’s psychotic behavior. I mean maybe he had few more details and felt that’s insane. come play, I assume, a nice place like three hours, three hours from now. That’s insane. And the guy was on vacation. He was like, “Sure.” So, anyways, we had lunch and I was like, “God, this guy is so I was I was already freaked out by the guy.” And uh we tee off. We all tee off. The guy was a club pro, so he played back with us. Yeah. And the other guy was an older guy. And we all teed off. And I I didn’t think the guy had teed off. And I was like, “Hey, um, are you going to hit?” And he goes, “Oh, I already hit.” And I was like, “Oh, okay.” And I was thinking like, “Oh, I must have missed it.” So we get up to the fairway and we all hit our second shots. And I was like, “Hey, where where’s your ball? Do you need help finding it?” And he goes, “Oh, you know, I I never play the first hole.” Wait, okay, I have questions about that. So, he said, “Why did he say I already hit?” They can’t both things can’t be true. So, anyways, the German guy, why does he not play the first hole? Let’s stop. Can we talk about that, too? I just at this point I accepted it and I’m moving on. I I I had gotten to the point within an hour of meeting this gentleman that I didn’t really want to ask follow-up questions. All right. So, we get done. We The German guy taps in for par on one and he goes, “Oh, I beat you. I’m one up.” And we’re like, after not playing the whole, huh? He goes, I made him Birdie. Who is this guy? He just he meets him at Starbucks line. Is this like some hunger games? Like he’s going to come out and just mess with them like I meet you three hours. Come out. I’m going to put you in a torture chamber. I beat you without playing the hole. I’m going to I you know I So anyways, the next hole ensues. He plays it once again. joins the procedure. Once again, the German guy putts out and he says something about beating him. Anyways, I get off to a really good start and I could see that it’s angering this guy. He’s upset because I’m I’m beating the tour player. Okay. So, on the sixth hole at this golf course, I’m on one side of the fairway. I was walking He is on like the he’s 90 yards away from me in a cart and we’re waiting and he gets out of his cart. He walks all the way across the fairway to me and I’m by myself and I’m thinking, “What what the hell is this guy doing?” Like, so anyways, he comes over and he pets my head cover. He starts petting it. I think I’m out. I think I’m out at that point. All right, I’m going in. And he goes, “Oh, Castle Downs.” I go, “You say castle, Castle Downs?” I goes, “It’s actually Crystal Down to be.” And he looks at me and he goes, “Now Andy, don’t forget who you are.” Turns around and walks away. And I’m standing over the shot and I’m like, “What the what the [ __ ] does this mean?” like what the hell did that mean? And I literally like shanked the ball. It got in your head. But then like a couple holes later, he just he’s like, “You guys have to come over for dinner.” And I’m like, “No, I’m not coming over. I I got plans. you maybe chop you guys up. I never wanted to get off the golf course more, but it may be this whole all remembered by this guy just doesn’t play the first hole and maybe that guy just shouldn’t have played the first hole at Cyprus. Maybe that’s what he’s thinking and then burning down birdie. But the whole round he talked about on one of the greens I five puted and he was just like almost fell over laughing. He was just actively rooting against me the whole day. So when he said remember who you are, he was mad that you were beating the tour pro. Maybe that’s what he was talking about. I think that’s what it was. And then I five putted later in the round and he was just he just he was laughing. He was he was it was amazing. It was an amazing round and also some a gentleman that I never wanted to see again. And I’m I was worried cuz the German guy was going to his house for dinner. I’m worried that he may never have been heard from again. That’s bizarre. I might have been out when he was patting my head cover. Like, you know, I’m good. I’m good here. Would you have gone to dinner? No, dude. I mean, when I’m done with golf, like unless, you know, my job is on the line or my family’s wealthy, I’m like out at that point, I’m not suffering that psycho anymore. Um, all right. Speaking I got one. I got golf advice. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. Um, is this embarrassing? 46, three kids, and they fight in my house all the time. I recently played a member guest. Upon receiving the player roster for the event, it was fun to see a bigname former MLB player in the field. When I say big time, we’re talking about a tiptop athlete, former MLB All-Star, World Series champion, gold glove winner, career earnings over 100 million, etc. Real deal. Not Jason Bay. Okay. Although Bay made, not Josh Vids. Now to my question. Is it embarrassing that this player is out in the public playing 10 handicap? I mean, come on. We are all a bunch of middle-aged golfers giving a former professional athlete multiple strokes. The game was fine. Decently long off the tea with a little hitch in the takeaway. Look to me. There were some serious struggles with the short game. What handicap would be acceptable? Should he even come to these types of tournaments? What? It’s not a home run derby. It’s not a like take the ball the other way contest. That’s what I would say too. A 10 handicaps is like by a average American good at golf. I Yeah, I like he might be bad at golf or might be not a major league allstar at golf equivalent. Why is this so unbelievable? I mean, he could be a sandbag or two. Like I But like the 10 is not some sort of great change. 10 is arguably good. When you were caddying a 10, you’re like, I got to take the 10. This is good. Yes, probably. Yeah. What was the cut off for you? You’re like, all right, I’m I’m happy. I was like ecstatic if it was eight or below. Yeah, 10. 10 was fine as long as they’re not, you know, slow. Yeah. God, what what is this guy trying to shame? He might not have played until he was It is humorous though. Like I mean it’s the beauty of golf, right? Like alltime baseball player. Maybe not all time. PJ seems Are we not allowed to share the name? Cannot share the name. Okay. All right. Very good baseball player. Am I wrong? What’s the question here? What’s the question? You’re supposed to shame him or yell at him for coming in as a 10. I don’t I don’t see the option there. I mean, I played golf with a with a, you know, all-time college basketball player a couple years ago, and he was really bad, really bad at golf. And he kept asking me what he should do. And I was like, you just you look so unathletic. I was like, you should just be more athletic. And he took a lot of offense to that. Well, I think these guys wrote cliche advice, but I I get it. No, it’s not it’s not cliche advice. It’s great for someone like him. Yes. It’s great advice for every golfer is that the more athletic you can make golf, the easier it is, but they can’t process it that way. Most people don’t know how to process it. But he got really upset about that. Mhm. And I could tell that he was very self-conscious about his game. So, I would just say that this person or any person that’s played other sports at an all-star level feel all of this anxiety around their own golf game and probably are in disbelief that you are better than them at this pursuit. I uh yeah, not to continue story time. You’ve seen my game. I’m not very good. I don’t care too much about it. Doesn’t fact like it’s not a personal reflection. I would like to be better pro. I I four kids though. I beat a a Hall of Famer few weeks within the last Never once did I think like, oh, this guy should be ashamed of himself because I idol of my like an incredible like I beat him. PJ probably doesn’t even know who this guy is. Um, that’s that’s too far. That’s too far. Was I maybe a little young? Sure, I know who this is. But no, never did I think like this guy should not this should be ashamed of himself because he was a once great athlete and is not a scratch. Anyways, that’s one of my favorite things about golf is that it it is endlessly frustrating for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Most people. Most people. Everyone. Yeah. Maybe the only person that’s not I mean it’s frustrating for everyone. Equally I would say equally if not more frustrating the better you get at golf. It’s a good point. It’s a good point. Uh all right. Is that it? You want to do any more? We could do one more. All right. This is a good one. Talking about weird people on the golf course. I don’t know if they’re petting uh head covers, but did they play the first one? This is a good one. Uh this is Well, he wants aliases. Are you my caddy? Is a subject line. Dear Andy Brennan PJ, 52 years old, one kid, no interest in fighting with only a passing curiosity in light wrestling. This is a fun Friday story. Let’s go to the weekend with little giggles. I never thought this would happen to me, but after listening to you guys as my consistent commute buddies for the past five years, I figured you were the only ones who could make sense of this situation. I’m sure we’re not. This story takes place at a wonderful New York City adjacent golf course during their 87th annual member guest tournament. This is a very tough tournament to get into and I was lucky enough to be invited by my neighbor, dear friend, and member Biff. He’s using aliases obviously. Our first match was against North and his guest Juan. All names have been changed. Yeah, I got that. The club had to bring in a lot of outside caddies to work the event as most every group had at least two caddies. We were told North and Juan’s caddy was running late and we were asked to tee off without him. Pro Shop will run him out when he arrives. My partner Biff topped his drive and as the ball settled a wildl looking character who we’ll call Spakoli sprinted out, snatched the ball names sprinted out, snatched the ball and started walking down the fairway admiring his brand new acquisition. The 40 or so people on the T- box erupted and shouts, “What are you doing? What the f man? Who the f is that?” We soon we soon learned that Spakoli was in fact North and Juan’s caddy. He returned the ball unapologetically and trotted to the four caddy position, notably without a caddy bib. The chaos was just beginning. PJ, I’m going to send you uh slack you guys a visual asset right now for when we get to the end. The chaos was just beginning. We’ll put this in the in the YouTube. On the first screen, Spicoli declared that he was the world’s best green reader. Quote, he then gave North a completely bogus read, which to his credit, North promptly ignored. which is right. Good. Just ignore the bad green reader. On the second T, Spoli asked, “What’s the format?” We told him it was a fourball, but it was clear we’d need to explain the rules. He then shared his life story. He quote, “Just flown in and quote was a little out of it. A state he attributed to mercury poisoning he’d contracted while developing an arch support patent that that a famous shoe company allegedly stole. So just flowing in was a little out of it from mercury poisoning for an arch support patent something or other. He didn’t care who he told because he would talk to whoever was not teen off while others were making their shot. By the third hole, the absurdity was becoming a bit of a thing as Makoli ran off to the adjacent fairway and picked up another player’s ball. When they confronted him, he asked what asked them what the format they were playing was. Confused, they yelled, “The same format that everyone else on the course is playing, dumbass.” We finally made it to the third green and North doesn’t give Spicoli a chance to give him a read, saying, “I got this. Thanks.” But Spakoli, undeterred, insists on reading the putt and then as a bonus step directly on Juan’s line. So his partner, his own partner’s lie. Finally, North had to tell him, “Just stop talking.” The fourth hole was marked by a bizarre exchange at the beverage cart where Spicy asked for a triple vodka and told the server he’d quote, “Own this place in a year.” The server we found out later thought he was a guest because he still wasn’t wearing a bib. Remember he ran onto the first hole bibless. Speaki god, sorry. Speakoli then turned his attention to me asking about the format again. So that’s the third time we’ve heard that. And observing that North quote doesn’t like me very much. As a polite guest, I just slowly backed away and avoided all future eye contact. On the fifth poll, a sudden blessed silence descended. Where is Spicoli? We looked around and saw him quietly approaching a herd of deer on the adjacent sixth hole. He then lay down and started making what I can only assume were deer noises. The attached picture, and we have visuals, so I would not believe this email, I don’t think, until he submitted visual evidence. The attached picture shows the deer looking equally baffled. It is amusing. This deer with his antlers is just staring at this dunce laying in the field. The deer looking right at him was hilarious. Deer looking equally baffled. As Picoli was communing with nature, North and Juan called the pro shop to have him removed. So, here’s the advice I need. If you’re North and Juan, would you have sent him home earlier? Then, if you’re Biff and I, do you try to keep Spicioli around for as long as possible just to see what happens next? I think this is a guy. You need this guy. This is content. You need this guy for the sake of content. I don’t know how competitive you are in this member guest, but if you’re not planning on winning anything, this is the story. This is what you need. Or if you’re trying to duke it out with North and whatever, Juan Juan. Yeah, you playing them in a match. This picoli is the best thing that could happen because nobody plays good golf when they’re irritated. I mean this picture of this what looks like a doughy fell big boy laying down on his side in the middle of the it’s a large man and a large deer with antlers those things are grown in ah so he’s asked the format three times gets a triple vodka picked up a couple balls reads green’s like comically bad that they just don’t even try to go the like direction. I think I think by the first hole when he picked up the ball and was walking around, I might be calling in. Like, what’s going on here? Can you get him a bib? Can we also check on on his back? Do a background check at this point. Uh, I think I’m doing it before the fifth hole. It was the Mercury. Yeah, maybe the mercury poison. The story time was out of it just flowing in. Where’s he flying from someone like this? I don’t know. Uh, all right. Yeah. Yeah, I’m calling by like the third hole, I would say. Definitely before he’s laying with the deer on number six. Yeah, but then you would have missed the laying with the deer and then if you’re the opponents, you just keep them out. Yeah, absolutely. Well, it sounds like a notable member guest that’s hard to get into and there’s 88 of them. Seems interesting. All right, that was it. [email protected]. We’re loaded up. The stories about weirdos. We’re going to be doing this all uh all all fall. SGSolf advice. All right, everybody. Enjoy your weekend. The RDER Cup comes soon, but uh take a break. Enjoy the football. I’d recommend just go relive that Paris uh Ryder Cup. There’s so many good Easter eggs in it. Very good. All right, we’ll talk to you guys on Monday.