Tyrrell Hatton and Ryan Lavner joined Gary Williams for today’s show. Williams was LIVE from Liberty National Golf Club, host site of this year’s Curry Cup as part of the Underrated Golf Tour. Lavner talked about Rory McIlroy now being the top European golfer of all-time and dove into a number of Ryder Cup discussion points. Hatton shared his thoughts on qualifying for the Ryder Cup on points, how it was fun to be in the hunt a major this year and shared a funny travel experience. The show ended with golf dogs of the week and team picks for the BMW Wentworth and Procore Tournament.
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Speaking of options, how about 10 golf courses and so many different places that you can stay and all the food options including that new clubhouse and restaurant station 21 down there at Pinehurst number 10. All right, we are at Liberty National. You know, it was three weeks ago, maybe four, that we were in Scotland and it was not a challenging hair day. It is today. Come to Jersey City. There’s nothing quite like it. And the reasons why I am here, I think a lot of people out there who have listened and watched this program know that uh lucky enough to be involved with the underrated golf tour. This is year four. This was the brainchild, the passion project in the vision of Steph Curry, one of the great sporting global icons that we have, not only in this country, but really around the world. And it was to create a platform for junior golfers. And it culminates here at the Curry Cup. That was scenes from last year at Rididgewood Country Club in Pamis, New Jersey. And now we have moved over to Jersey City, New Jersey to Liberty National. And this is again, this is the culmination for these kids who try to perform well enough to earn an invitation. And it is 30 kids not only from the United States, but also kids representing the European community because we now have events in London and also in Scotland. We were at St. Andrews a month ago. And so for these kids to have the chance now in year four, it started at TPC Harding Park in San Francisco, then Lake Merrced, and then last year it moved to the greater New York area at Rididgewood, which has hosted a RDER Cup, a couple of US ammoners, not to mention multiple FedEx Cup playoff events. And Steph will be out here Friday. Steph’s going to be on the Tonight Show tonight with Jimmy Fallon. He’s going to be on the Today Show tomorrow. And then he will be out here all day on Friday with these kids competing to win their Curry Cup. And we are at Liberty National. Even though it has a very young birth certificate, has already played host to a number of significant events. Uh starting with the the FedEx Cup playoff event they had for the first time in 2009. One by Heath Slokum. Tony Fenow is one here. Adam Scott is one here, Patrick Reed. Not to mention on the women’s side, they have an LPJ event here. Ro Jang and also Nelly Corda. In 2017 they had the United States President’s Cup here. The United States won that event as they have done virtually everywhere that that event has been hosted. But let me just say for for somebody who who obviously covers golf, to see what this has become in such a modest amount of time is is not only a testament to the staff and the people who work on the underrated tour full-time, uh, but also to Steph himself. He pours his heart and soul into this. And like I said, and I have said before, this is not just a junior golf tour. This is a This is a movement to give kids opportunities at no cost, which is such an important thing. It’s not just the players. 96 play in these regional tour stops around the country. 43 uh boys and and and or pardon me uh 48 boys and 48 girls, but also their parents to travel, hotel, airfare, swag, food at no cost at all because of great sponsorship starting with KPMG which is heavily invested in the game of golf at the highest level. They obviously are the title sponsor for the KPMG Women’s PGA Championship. This tour could not exist without these great sponsors, CDW, Southern Company, and of course, United Airlines, Callaway, and starting with KPMG. So, it’s a thrill to be here. This is a this is a a great fortifying experience for us. So, in addition, all that’s going on at the professional level uh to culminate the underrated tour here at Liberty National is a neat thing. And then these kids are going to have a shindig at Tao. Yeah. Tao in Midtown Manhattan on uh Friday night to bring the curtain down on the 2025 underrated golf tour. All right, let’s transition. Let me just give you a sense of what we got for you on this Wednesday. Ryan Lavner is gonna join me, senior writer, one of the best writers who covers the game of golf. And of course, he’s got his own podcast that you can see here on Golf Channel 9:00 a.m. Eastern time on Mondays with with Rex Hogard. And of course, he is a key contributor to Golf Today as well on the TV side. He’s going to join me. Got a lot of things I want to discuss with him, not only as it relates to the RDER Cup, which is on the horizon, but also change that we think is coming very, very quickly here on the PJ tour over the next 12 to 24 months. Uh, and also kind of Rory Maroy, the year that he’s had and where it is definitely Scott Sheffller’s year in terms of him presumptively being the player of the year on the PJ tour. He’s going to be, but the year that Rory’s had and what he’s done and where that puts him historically, I want to get Ryan’s perspective on that. And then speaking of the RDER Cup, Tierrell Hatton is going to join us at the bottom of the hour live from the BMW PGA at Wentworth. Uh he is somebody who at the beginning of the year won the event in Dubai which set him up in terms of being able to play in a modest number of events where he was actually getting points and he was good enough in that modest number of of events including almost winning the US Open that he was not somebody who needed a pick. He will be on the European side for the fourth time. He he paired exceptionally well with John Rom in 2023. So, I’m looking forward to having a conversation with him, which gets me to not only the BMW PGA, but also to the ProCore at Napa. I would argue that this is as good a week as you will get in the month of September ever. And I’m not I’m not including the Ryder Cup. I’m talking about tour events. I’m talking about whether it be the DP World Tour or the Procore. Because if you consider the Pro Core and what Keegan Bradley has managed to do and he look he had to get the buyin from his players, but if you look at that field and if and just to give you context, it is projected that the winner of this event is going to get between 46 and 51 points in the world rankings. And and again, if you want to discount the world rankings because li players are not getting them, that that’s fine. But the point is is that if you look at what Tommy Fleetwood got by winning the Tour Championship, he got 45 points and I know it was only 30 players. Scotty Shuffler in a field of 50 got 56 points at the BMW the week before that. The winner of this event and it’s not only all these members of the US RDER Cup team, but it’s also those other notables as well like Ashe Batia and Maverick McNeely, not to mention a couple of amateurs and Miles Russell and Jackson Kyman. Jackson Coryman 12 rankings is actually pretty good because he’s played so well on these tour events. The fact that the winner of this event is going to get between 47 and 51 points, that’s an elite event in the heart of the PGA Tour schedule. And then also on the BMW PGA Championship side, look, it’s the flagship event for the the DP World Tour. that winner is is is scheduled to get even more points projected to be somewhere between 50 and 54. And then you look at all the members of the European Rder Cup team that are in this field in addition to their captain. And then you have Billy Horschaw returning. He’s won the event on two occasions. Kepka is in the field. Patrick Reed who plays everywhere. Adam Scott, Hideki Madsyama. And and one thing to note about these these particular fields, it’s not accidental when you look at pairings for these two events. If you look at the the Rose Fleetwood and Horse players, including uh Rory is going to play alongside John Rom uh as well. So all of these particular events, these two events, including not only do you have the captains of both team, Luke Donald’s in the field, uh the Pro Core, Keegan Brownley’s out there outfitted yesterday in USA swag, um just following around his players in practice rounds. This is something that we did not see in 2023, which was one of the criticisms that the United States got in the aftermath, of which they got many, starting with with Zack Johnson getting criticized for a number of things. These players are here, so it’s not going to be a month of inactivity. And I know that, you know, obviously Xander Schoffley is not in the field. Uh this week it was announced it was it was reported by the Associated Press that the reason he’s not playing is because his wife recently gave birth to a child. So he he’s not in the field substract on the European side’s not in the field uh at wherever event whether it be over there at BMW PGA or not. This is a glorious week to be able to sandwiched around all of the football which is going to start on on Thursday night with an NFL game and then you have college football Friday and Saturday and the NFL on Sunday. But with the BMW WPGA, I know that Friday likes to call it coffee golf. It’s glorious. And then because you’re out in California, it’s actually into the prime time hours on the East Coast. It’s a rare just decorated week of the best players in the world as the the last little appetizer before you get to Beth Paige in that RDER Cup. All right, we’re going to take our first break. This is a very challenging hairpiece day if you honestly think I’ve got one. All right, when we come back, Ryan Lavner from Golf Channel, senior writer channel.com, and obviously he’s got his show on Mondays 9:00 am on Golf Channel following us with Rex Hogard, his perspective on a number of things. And then also, we’ve got Tarl Hatton at the bottom of the hour. We got pick for two events. We got dogs of the week as well. It’s a very busy Wednesday. Good to have you with us. I am live from Liberty National. Ryan Lavner with me next. [Music] We are back in here on a Wednesday. Good to have you with us. I’m live from Liberty National, the site of the Curry Cup, Steph Curry’s uh great underrated tour. Uh excited for these kids to experience this place. And this segment is brought to you by Peter Malar. This little puffer jacket, it can be yours. Just go to petermalar.com. It is the fall season. You need to layer up and nobody can do that better for you than Peter Malar. All right, joining me now, he’s got his own program on Mondays 9:00 a.m. Eastern alongside Rex Hogard, of course, senior writer golfch.com, a big contributor at golf today as well. He is Ryan Lavner uh with the backdrop. You would think that he is in an ancillary room outside of the locker room at the University of Georgia. Good morning. Good morning, G. It’s great to see you. Go dogs. Yep. There we go. Big one. Big one this weekend. You only have like nine rivals. Uh your first rival of the season is this weekend. Uh the Volunteers. You know, I I’m curious to get your thoughts on Rory on on a lot of things, but let let’s just start with like where he sits historically. And it’s not because like the the Irish show takes him over the top, but it’s it’s another like emotional personal win for him. You can see the people in that in that nation, this this love for him, those kids on that rope line on 18. Where is he now in your mind historically among the European greats? Because many people thought the Grand Slam put him over the top. Where were you then? Where are you now? Yeah, Gary, I think you make a great point that this might not be the best year of Roy Moore’s career, but it was certainly the most personally significant between the Grand Slam and the Masters and the Players and the Irish Open heading back home to Port Rush for the Open Championship. Like, it’s been a huge uh year significantly for him just from a personal perspective as it relates just to best European of all time. I actually think you could make that argument now, which is pretty insane to say about a player who is still just 36 years old. Then look, it’s really tough to compare across generations. Equipment’s different, deeper field, different style of play. Rory is certainly more of a domestic presence than a Sevy or a Nick Faldo ever were. But I thought about this a lot over the past couple months. I really think the career grand slam now makes the rest of Roy Moyy’s resume look even better in hindsight. when he had that decade long majorless drought, he was almost in this weird position where he was almost having to justify his place in the game. Like look at everything else that I’ve done. Now in hindsight, it’s all very complimentary to what is an outstanding overall body of work. Whether it’s the FedEx Cup titles, the race to Dubai, the 45 wins worldwide, the national opens, the weeks at world number one, the weeks in the top five, the longevity, I think you could make a very strong argument now that Roy Mack at age 36 is the best European golfer of all time. Yeah, Ryan, I agree. And and and when you have these conversations, people they for whatever reason hear that you’re kind of disparaging the competition in no way. And you mentioned the two guys and it’s it’s Sevy and Faldo, but it’s it’s not only the career grand slam, they had two of the four, he has all four. And in addition to that, Ryan, because he won the US Open when he did, and then he had that stretch where he was not very good in the US Open, and now he’s become like this US Open specialist. his the the total body and breath of his ability to be hyper competitive in all four and also having won all four where the other two didn’t even win two of the four and then you mention all the other stuff. I I know we have to get away from his career a little bit to make it definitive. I don’t really need to. I think he already is. Yeah. You look at the totality of his skill set to your point, Gary. I mean, for about a decade, he was uh the preeminent driver of the golf ball on the planet. You ask any player, I want to drive the golf ball. Like Roy Mroy, he has spent a lot of time over the past couple years with his longtime swing coach, Michael Bannon, sort of shoring up the scoring clubs in his game. Uh making sure what is a strength for his driving and what he does sort of swing-wise is not necessarily a detriment to his full swing, sort of getting out from that stuck position where he was just flailing uh a lot of wedge shots to the right. his uh short game has been cleaned up. His putting, his work with Brad Faxton since 2018, this was the best putting season of his career uh in 2025. He is so much more of a complete player now as we sit here in 2025. And that’s why I don’t think, you know, you talk about resume compiling, he still has another 3 to 5 years of of doing some serious damage on the world stage. Uh, last thing on Rory. You know, every time he speaks to the media that you you hear some righteousness from him, not in a bad way, but he said something yesterday. And it’s not that we don’t already know that he can play wherever he wants, but he said in a way that that he’s going to look at at, let’s say, like you said, the next three to five years in a more pragmatic way. And clearly, he plays more later in the year. He gives some loyalty to the DP World Tour. He tries to race all the way to the month of November, no pun intended. What did you take away from him saying, you know what, and I’m going to play where I want to play and maybe more national opens. And that may mean, Ryan, at the same time, less signature series events on the PGA Tour. And look, Rory has not been shy about skipping marquee events on the PJ tour. You look at 2025 alone, he skipped three signature events on the PJ tour schedule and he skipped the opening playoff event during the FedEx Cup playoffs. Roy saying, “I want to play where I want to play.” I think is just um sort of a owing to his international star power. He’s wanted in other parts of the world. He wants to play there as well. He wants to build in breaks whether it’s for family, whether it’s for personal reasons. I I have no problem with that. But it certainly does set up an interesting dichotomy, does it not? with Scotty Sheffller who at this point of his career he’s got a young family has made no bones about it that while the most of the biggest events in the world are staged in the US he doesn’t have much of a desire to go outside the borders I’m not saying one uh direction is right or wrong but it’s certainly an interesting contrast between the two biggest stars in the game right now let me ask your thoughts on on the the whole live DP world tour as it relates to the the idea of players and eligibility in the RDER Cup and and pushing the ball down the field and and these fines piling up and how it’s going to be resolved. Where is this all going in 27? Uh a a a a a headpoint like they’re going to be they’re going to be smashing heads at some point. That point could be sometime soon because the biggest factor as it relates to this Gary is going to be competitive relevance. Does the DP Walnut DP Walter want to be uh continue to be competitively relevant? And if they do, they are probably going to have to rewrite their regulations. Keep in mind, an arbitration panel has already sided with the European tour that they can impose these sanctions on the players. They can ban these players from these tournaments even though many of these players have already indicated like a John Ram Terrell Hatton who I know you’re going to have on the show later. They’ve already indicated that they want to play in some of these DP World Tour events when their schedule on live or wherever else they’re playing uh allows. It’s obviously a little bit more complicated than that. Just, you know, making sure that the schedule allowances. It’s a it’s a little bit easier than just saying we’re going to wave this sort of regulation, but John Rom might finally be the agent of change that I think he was seeking in winter 2023 when he jumped to live golf. He has the leverage here. Team Europe by as a byproduct of a DP World Tour needs John Rom. The captains know it, the players know it, and John Rom know it. Something has to give. Someone has to budge. You would think the DP World Tour would make some sort of allowances for these players to continue to play when their schedule allows on Liv. All right. So, Keegan Bradley yesterday is is outfitted in USA swag. He’s in full RDER Cup mode. He makes the decision he made to pass on himself. Ryan, I I have the feeling that it would take something really extraordinary for him to be criticized when this is over. Whatever the result is, I think there’s a level of benevolence and grace that he has been given. People already loved him. They love his passion. Then he makes this this this selfless act passes on himself. How is it that he would be crit? Give me the scenario that he would catch real flak at the end of this thing. Well, I I do agree with you that Keegan Bradley right now is very much a sympathetic figure, especially with with American fans. Here’s a player who did not ask for it. He was not lobbying. He was not petitioning for the US RDER Cup captaincy. He very much wanted to be a player on that team. And yet, the PJ of America sort of thrust that responsibility on him. And Keegan Bradley, knowing this might be a once in a-lifetime opportunity, seized it. He then sacrificed all of his personal ambition for a greater good. that to this point makes him a sympathetic figure. However, if we get to Beth Paige Black and the US loses despite having pretty significant built-in advantages of being the home team, that has to be largely because of poor decisionm and what he did and potentially not put the American players in the best position to succeed. Even though when you look at the last five cups, the home team has won by an average of 6.6 points. Yes, the PJ of America is going to catch some heat if the Americans lose because they put Keegan Bradley in an untenable position. Obviously, the American players are going to feel some heat uh particularly the star players if they don’t live up to their billing and are disappointing in the matches that Beth pays Black. But you, you and I have covered enough Ricups to know how this goes. The captain always wears the burden of responsibility for an outcome. They get too much praise when they win. They get too much sort of blowback when they lose. Even though Keegan Bradley right now is sort of an American hero, if if this thing goes sour in a couple weeks time, I could see the fans turning on him and sort of the narrative flipping on him as well as being a very disappointing captain win. I think to this point, Gary, Kika Bradley has been exceptional in the role, especially balancing the two responsibilities that he’s had on the PGA Tour. Yeah, I share that position with you. All right, last thing as it pertains to the RDER Cup, and this is the out question. that RDER Cup through time has evolved with change. Obviously, the big change was 79 adding Europe. There hasn’t been change in any way uh other than the way that they’ve altered how many captains picks that there are for each side and they have the latitude to make those choices independent of each other. Um if you were going to make a change with the state of the competition now, what would it be? I want to say right now the RDER Cup is perfection. You and I have covered Walker Cups. In my opinion, that’s too short for what’s been a two-year runup. You and I have covered President’s Cups. In my opinion, that’s too long. Uh the the the flow doesn’t really necessarily work. Certainly, the the points from 32 uh doesn’t work as you look at what the internationals have done. The the Rder Cup though has the ideal cadence. It builds drama organically. Momentum is a huge factor. Like I love the format of the RDER Cup and I don’t want to see it change. What I do worry about though, Gary, is the potential home course advantage, homeside advantage being just All right, we had some technical issues. Unfortunately, we we lost Ryan there. I hated that we we lost his answer. I hate it for the audience as well. All right, so we’re going to take a break. Uh we come back hopefully we connect with Tyrell Hatton. Thank you to Ryan, senior writergolfch channel.com and of course his program Mondays at 9:00 a.m. Eastern alongside Rex Hagard. We’re back here from Liberty National here on Five Clubs Golf Channel PJ Tour Radio channel 92 right after this. [Music] Welcome back in. Good to have you with us on this Wednesday edition of Five Clubs Golf Channel. Also on SiriusXM’s PJ Tour Radio channel 92. This segment brought to you by Pinehurst. They are the cradle of American golf. 10 golf courses. So many options to stay, not to mention the cradle, the new restaurant, the clubhouse at number 10, station 21, the new cottages at number eight. Always a great time to book a trip to Pinehard. All right, joining me now, he just completed his prom round at the BMW PGA at Wentworth. And of course, he’s got the RDER Cup on the horizon. One of the best players in the world, Terrell Hatton, joining me now. Uh, how are you, my friend? How was that prom round? I mean, you’re such a big shot. You don’t play with Schlubs anymore. It’s all celebrities for you, right? No, we uh we had a good morning. We got fairly lucky with the weather. Um though we did get a little bit of rain but no it’s good fun and um yeah looking forward to the rest of the week. Now let me ask you if you know look you got golf to be played through the end of the year but if I asked you if this is an easy answer the most focused round of golf you played in 2025 does it come to mind immediately? Uh h sorry. How do you mean? So my question was the most focused round of golf you’ve played this year. Would that be an easy answer? If I said to you that the most locked in you’ve been over the course of one round, can you say absolutely it was this round? What today? No, no, no, no. For the whole year. For the whole year. Any round of golf that you felt you were the most focused? It certainly wasn’t today. Oh, sorry. I’ve like completely misunderstood you there. Um, I’d probably say Sunday of US Open. Um, that was probably the most sort of um con like cons I was. Um, also just being in that situation at the end of the tournament and having a chance to potentially win was exciting. And I also felt like really comfortable with my swing. I It’s one of those days where you just felt like you were going to hit a good shot. Um, and that’s a nice feeling certainly at US Open. So, um, that would definitely be a standout round for for me. this year. You know, Terrell, that day you started the day five back. You walked off the 13th green. You’re a shot back. I thought the T- shot you hit on 16 was maybe the finest shot you hit all year. I didn’t see every shot you struck. Take people into what that experience is like when your body and your mind are cooperating in the most discomforting environment we would have think that you guys could ever be in. Last nine holes of a major, you’re right there. You’re in the blender. What What was that? What is that like to experience that? I mean, the first thing it was it was really fun. Um I’ve played a lot of majors now and never had the opportunity to to potentially win um going down the last few holes on Sunday. And um yeah, 16 I hit a great four iron. It sort of reminded me actually of a similar shot when I not not long got my uh DP World Tour card. um was playing the Joberg Open and I hit was hitting four iron into the last and it was one of those shots I just knew that I needed to feel like I hit a bit harder and get a little bit more out of it and I had to strike it really good and um I kind of went back to remembering that feeling that that swing I guess and yeah hit a great shot into 16. Unfortunately, I didn’t hold the part. Um, but it was it was a nice moment, but the uh the finish it would have been nicer if the finish went a bit a bit better for me, but I tried my best and uh is what it is. So, let me take you back beginning of the year when you win in Dubai. You know, people who cover their sport like me, we go, well, that will really free him up. That’s a big win. The world ranking points. Is that true? Does that give you any psychological freedom when you win an event early in the year and knowing you have a modest number of events that you’re going to play in that you’re getting world ranking points as it relates to the RDER Cup? Was that an extra boost? Um, it was nice in the feeling that I knew that I only going into that week, um, I was only going to have the Desert Classic and the four majors to earn RDER Cup points. And a big goal of mine was trying to qualify automatically. uh the the three previous rider cups that I’ve been a part of, I qualified for the team automatically and that was something more out of pride that I just wanted to keep going and yeah, having five opportunities to earn points to earn enough points to be an automatic was was always going to be hard. Um, I actually thought after I had a bad Sunday at at the Open, um, went from fourth to to I think tied 16th or something like that, um, I thought that I’d blown my chance to make it as an automatic, but, um, thankfully I just just clung on. I mean, I know the Europeans weren’t earning any points at the FedEx final. Um, but yeah, it worked out nicely for me and I was very proud to to make that team automatically with with only having five opportunities this year. Oh, absolutely. I mean, you on that side uh certainly certainly, you know, John needed a pick, but Bryson on the American side and the modest number of starts for for both of you guys uh to be as productive as you were with these finite number of events. As far as the European team, no no RDER Cup team has brought back 11 guys for the next RDER Cup. Great Britain and Ireland 1971 in 1973 10 of the 12 guys were the same. Both the results were the same. The United States won easily. I don’t know if you knew that that this has never been done that 11 of the 12 guys from the previous team and you guys won. Does that feel even more right that you’re trying to do this again with the exact same group, including the last name of the other guy who’s not the same guy? No, I mean, it’s pretty it’s pretty special. Um, and it’s it’s nice to to have the um what what’s the right word? The to almost continue that all together. um you know what that experience is like and um yeah, it will be it’ll be a very special week in in a few weeks time and I know we’re all we’re all looking forward to it. Um, people who watch you play golf are are amused, they’re entertained, and and and when you come in and you do media and and everybody knows you to be as delightful as anybody, but when you’re out there, there is this redlinining that you experience that again is is wildly entertaining. And I just wonder, were you a self-conscious kid? because you do this stuff and and you’re fine with it and and you either explain yourself when it’s over and you you smile and you you you pass it off because you know this sports is reality television. It’s not Love Island. It’s you guys doing what you do and you are who you are. Um are you ever self-conscious about anything because you don’t appear to be which is great. Um no I feel like sometimes there’s there’s certain things that I probably wish I could take back, but uh yeah, ultimately I’m just reacting to whatever shot or scenario that I’m in. Um and yeah, I just I guess I don’t don’t really hold anything back. You kind of know know where I’m at and that that’s just me being myself and um I don’t think there’s anything to to shy away from. The um the the thing that amuses me most is when you tap down spike marks after you putted because you can do it before. I think it’s a defense mechanism. Like it’s never going to be my fault. That’s the one that gets me the most. Yeah, absolutely. Is it a defense mechanism? Probably. It’s again I think sometimes it’s just a reaction without even thinking. It’s like well the ball’s not gone in so it’s not my fault. Um, so yeah, just blame blame the grass. It’s easier. Plus the grass can’t talk back to you. Let me ask you one last thing about the RDER Cup. Um, on the horizon is this resolution that has to happen between the DP World Tour and Live and all these fights. Does your gut tell you that by 2027 in Ireland everything is going to be resolved in in in a good way? I don’t know. um you you’d like to to be positive about it. Um I think everyone that watches golf and covers golf would like things to change for for the good. But um yeah, from my side, I I’ll play the events that I want to play and um hopefully other people can can figure out how to best move forward with golf. Um, and yeah, just see see how it plays out. Yeah, you know, I mean, it’s so important. There’s so many guys. It’s not just you guys who are in the prime of your careers playing on the team. It’s all these guys who appear to be presumptive captains as well who are part of live. Um, I hope for the sake of the event that all of it does get resolved. All right, let’s get you out of here. You got a presser. Five quick questions for Tier Hatton to get him out of here. What is Who has the most humorous temper in professional golf? You’re excluded from this competition. Who is the funniest guy when he gets angry? Oh, um, God, now you’ve put me on the spot now. I’ll be terrible at this. I can’t even think who like gets angry now. I mean, John Ron gets angry. Yeah, but I feel like Rambo’s anger isn’t like a funny anger. He kind of he’s a big unit, so it almost is probably a bit more of a scary anger. Someone like myself at 5’8, like it’s not very intimidating if someone like that gets angry, is it really? But um yeah. Yeah. I don’t I think Sheffller is sneaky funny, Terrell. I think Sheffler like he he looks like apoplelectic. Like how did that not go in? Like he puts his hands up. I think he’s sneaky funny. He doesn’t get angry much, but when he does, it’s like he can’t believe he can’t believe what he just saw. Yeah. No, to be fair, I like it because he’s pretty cool for most of the time. He’s been the last few years, I feel like he’s been very calm, but then there’s the occasional head off. But I I mean, I’m here for it. I like it. I’m not There’s no judgment on my side. No, no, no. This is not about judging anybody. Not at all. All right. Your record at the Old Course is tremendous. Uh what you do at the Dunh Hill, it’s incredible. The Sundays you’ve had at the Old Course. Give me the hole on the Old Course that tickles you the most. Do you have a favorite hole? Favorite hole? Um I would say probably the 18th. It is just such a cool hole. Although you are petrified to not hit it out of bounds at the same time. Um it’s h yeah I’d say 18 is definitely my favorite. Okay. The player in golf with the best taste in wine. I know you like a little grape. Who’s got good taste in wine? Um, I mean, I’ve been out for a fair few dinners with Rambo this last few years, and he doesn’t fear picking a good bottle, so I’ll uh I’ll go with a big man. Okay, that’s good. All right. I know that you’re not taking a ton of commercial flights, but maybe on occasion. What would be worse, sitting next to somebody with with BO or somebody who will not stop talking? What’s worse? I would say BO. That would be that would be brutal. I actually remember I had a I know. Sorry, this is a quick question, but um I had a EasyJet flight. It was like a 4h hour. EasyJet is a budget airline. um over here in in Europe. But um this lady was scared of flying and I was in I was in the aisle seat and she bought some alcohol um at duty-free and then started drinking it on the plane. Well, anyway, she got battered. But then the problem was she then because there was no one in the middle seat, she decided that she was going to curl up in a ball and put her take her shoes and socks off and then put her feet on the middle seat. The issue with that was that her feet smelled absolutely horrendous. I had to I mean I beat cabin crew. I was like I can’t stay here. Like is there any other move to It was absolutely tragic. It was the worst three and a half hours of my life. I think it was that was savage. You needed some of her alcohol. I think I did. I could have done with some alcohol to pass out. I think from I think the back. All right, last one. Last question. Uh, the American food guilty pleasure for you. Is there an American food that that we associate with the United States that when you’re over here, it’s not good for you, but you like it to be uh chicken tenders and ranch. Oh my, that is just tremendous. I can eat so many of them. Yeah, there there the chicken tender. We have perfected that. There there’s there’s no doubt. It’s glorious. Sensational stuff. Listen, um, thank you for thank you for doing this. I know you got to press her. Have a good week this week. Uh, look forward to seeing you, Beth Paige. Thanks so much. Yeah, thank you very much. See you in a couple of weeks. All right, there is Tier Hatton. Uh, his fourth European Rder Cup appearance. A and a 4-hour flight with somebody who takes their shoes and socks off. That is brutal. All right, those were winning words presented by Sentry. A lot of great thoughts from Tier Hatton. When it comes to business insurance needs, when it talks about the idea of having a conversation, resolving what is necessary for your needs, Sentry is always right by you. All right, we’re going to take a break. We got picks, not only the BMW Championship, but also the Pro Core with all the players from the United States Rder Cup team and a lot of other really good players. It’s a great field and dogs of the week to put a wrap on it. I feel like I am in Scotland. It is raining. It is blowing about 25 here at Liberty National. We continue on a Wednesday on Golf Channel and on PGA Tour Radio SiriusXM right after this. [Music] Welcome back in to five clubs here on Golf Channel. Also, it is PJ Tour Radio channel 92 on SiriusXM. Of course, dogs of the week in this segment brought to you by Golf Pride. 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Look at how sad Hersy looks because he was dropping Mason off at the airport. That is Jacob Mleti. Mlesk’s dog, the junior from the University of Notre Dame. He was two and one in the Walker Cup. That is his dog, Sadie. Sadi is a puggle. Now, that is Tommy Morrison’s dog. Tommy’s mom is the one who got all these dogs to us. That picture was not taken a week before before the RDER Cup. That is his dog, Mulligan. Tommy went two and one in the Walker Cup. That is Chase Sum, the Oklahoma Sooner. The senior went three and one in the Walker Cup. The picture on the right is all of his bird dogs when they were puppies. That is his golden retriever cowboy there on the left. Oh my goodness. That is Ben James as a little kid. That the University of Virginia Cavaliers senior on his second Walker Cup team. That is his cat Rudy. Now, I I said this last week that after some cat got through the system and got featured on the dogs of the week, we would never have another cat. We’ve just made the one exception. It’s the special Walker Cup exemption. The only way another cat is going to be seen on this program ever in dogs of the week if it’s a cat who is the cat of a member of the next US Walker Cup team. Congratulations to all those guys. Thank you uh to Tommy Morrison’s mom for recruiting all of the pictures for the dogs and the guys. We really appreciate it. All right, from dogs of the week, we get to our picks of the week. We got two events that are very worthy of us making picks all these events and we will do it through the fall. Uh let’s take a look at the standings. We never got to update after the tour championship uh the standings and Emma Carpenter who by the way it seems like she’s doing event an event in every sport on television every week. She was on the sidelines last week at the University of Minnesota on the Big 10 network. She’s out at the Proore this week. She is out in front of Taylor Zarger and then there’s Johnson. All of them over $18 million. Gil, myself, Jay, and there is Brendan. If we do this through the end of the year, Brendan might get to 10 million. Probably not. So, with that, let’s get to our picks of the week, the two events, the DP World Tour event and the PGA Tour event. We start with the BFW PGA Championship. I’m going with Marco Penge. The guy has been great. I know that Luke Donald considered him for the European Rder Cup team. Gil goes with Tommy. Emma does as well. Taylor goes with our guy Tierrell Hatton who was just on the program. So does Jay Bis Johnson with Matt Fitzpatrick and Brendan Young with Ludvig Oberg who was on the show last week. So maybe you get some good vibes out of Ludvig appearing on the program last week. All right. So from the BMW PGA Championship to the Pro Core and all the guys on the US RDER Cup team. It’s interesting to note only only Emma Carpenter who’s leading picked somebody who’s not on the United States Rder Cup team. I said Walker Cup uh Ryder Cup team. A lot of Sheffler. Gil Hance was wondering does he have Sheffller back in his uh back in his portfolio because we’re now kind of past the tour championship. Yes. But he still goes with JT. A lot of Sheffler. Johnson Wagner goes with Russell Henley and as uh as I mentioned with Emma Carpenter, she goes with Maverick McNeely. Those are your picks for the two events. It’s going to be great because you’ve got the BMW championship early in the morning starting tomorrow right here on Golf Channel and then you got the Pro Court not only on Golf Channel at night, but you also got it on PGA Tour Radio with live playbyplay coverage. I say goodbye for now from Liberty National. This is again, like I said, we’re awfully proud that Signature Sports Group is involved with Steph Curry and his underrated tour. Can’t wait to see the kids around Steph. No shows next Monday or Tuesday. We’re back Wednesday. I’m Diaz for the whole show. Have a great rest of your week. 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Another great show!