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We all know that Vice Golf makes some of the best, most affordable golf balls on the market. Today, we’ve traveled to Munich, Germany to see the guys behind these Vice golf balls and have a little bit of a fit in to see which one could potentially be best for my game and of course, best for your game. Hi everyone, my name is James and welcome back to this YouTube channel. And today we’re joined by Marco. Marco, how are you? Hi, nice to meet you. Thank you so much for having us out here to the uh HIO fitting center. which is a fantastic location, guys, just outside of Munich city center. And we have five golf balls here that we’re going to have a bit of a play around with. They to do a bit of a fit in and see what numbers we generate with them because I believe that you believe there’s a huge misconception in what golf balls people generally buy. Marco. Yeah, exactly. I think the one thing is of course we want to convince people of playing the same golf ball all the time and not mix and match balls. That’s I think the first thing. the second to really find the best matching golf ball for their game. And the game like consists on three parts like short game, iron game and then driver game. Yeah. And for each game there might be a different ball perfect but we have to find one which works for all best. And I think with that kind of five balls in our lineup, we try to please as many golfer types as possible. So we try we tried really hard to make them as different as possible. Okay. Right. Um Marco, I’m going to be left in your capable hands. Where would you like to start? Let’s start from uh the bottom. So we have two SIN balls in our portfolio which I think always have like this price value advantage. Um affordable for everybody especially if like either you are a beginner or if you don’t want to spend a lot for golf balls. And is that primarily because sirloin sirloin sirloin is takirloin sirloine is just cheaper material. Yeah, exactly. It’s a cheaper material and a different manufacturing process. Yeah, I would not say in that it’s for every kind of golfer a worse ball compared to a cast urethine or TPU ball. Not at all. Uh I think it’s just a good option to spend less on a ball. Some advantages, some disadvantages. We will figure that out. So, we try with the start with the vice drive ball first. We’re going to go with the 7 and it is the VGIO1. I’ll move that one out there. We’ve had a bit of a warmup already. So, uh how many good shots are we wanting? I think we just need like two, three good shots and then see if we see some differences. My feedback to you here is going to be huge, isn’t it? Yeah, exactly. I want to know like how it feels, how the sound um also in the quality of move of quality of swing maybe. Yeah. Okay. A little bit heavy, but not bad. Mhm. Drive ball would be the two-piece sur construction. So, that would be the most affordable one in our range. That felt really good. Straight away, I noticed quite a high launching ball by the look of it. launching straight high off the face rather than when you start talking about urethane you talk about kind of lower launching but then higher spinning ball don’t you? Yeah. Exactly. So the tricky part with developing balls is on the one side to giving them maximum spin in the short game and a reduced spin rate with the driver because that gives you distance in the long game and then control in the short game. So that’s the tricky part and that’s where cost urine is needed. I think that really good. Look at that. It’s a line ball. So we’ve got two good ones and two bad ones there. I don’t know if you want to do you want me to hit one more? Yeah, I hit one more and then I think we are good. That’s three good ones and two bad ones. That was really good. And I think also as the name says itself drive that ball is made for distance for getting the up getting the ball up in the air very easily. So that is the the main approach for that ball and let’s see um how it goes for you. Uh we continue with the tour ball. So the second one in the sin series and it’s a threepiece ball. Okay. So all these balls available in different kind of colorways and things like that as well for people who who do like that. Yeah, exactly. Like the drive ball we offer in three different colors, yellow, um, blue and pink. And the tour model is available in white and gray. But there were some cool models um launching soon for the tour series. Go one more because the first one was a little bit glancy. But is there any difference for you in terms of sound feel or difficult because we’re indoors? But maybe this one’s a touch firmer. Just a little bit. Nice. Yeah, pleased with that. That’s three good ones. So during development the tour ball, the approach was to mix and match spin and speed. So we don’t want to have a ball there which is just focusing on distance. So something which is good to control but gives you a solid distance at the same time. Pro air. Pro air. Yeah. That’s the What would you say is your best selling ball, Marco, for guys who Yeah, that’s um very easy to answer. The best selling ball was always the Pro Plus model. But I think just to that um mouth, I think that people always want to go for that highest ranked in terms of naming. Pro Plus sounds like the best ball for everybody. Yeah. And those are the three cost urethane balls. Yeah. And I would say they’re so different. So I would never say the Pro Plus is the best in that range. It just depends on your needs. And when we start with the Pro Air, which is the newest um ball model, that’s focusing on how the name tells you air. So, it’s distance and height and launch angle. So, that gives you a lot of distance no matter what handicap or what swing speed you have. Mhm. Right. Cuz I always think consistency is key and I always wonder how consistent golfers have to be to warrant spending big money on golf balls. So obviously all these golf balls come in a lot more affordable than the likes of maybe a a Callaway, a tailor made a titleist, that kind of brand. But like you said, the key is that you’re using something as consistent as possible so that when when you play your good golf, you know what it’s going to do. And I would not recommend every normal golfer to go on our casure boards. I think way more important is that you stick to one model and you find the right model. It doesn’t have to be always the most expensive ones uh expensive one, but I think at the same time the pro models are also quite affordable in relation to what you find on the market. This one feels nice and soft. And overall, I think I mentioned that um earlier, I think the biggest difference with balls you see in iron game and short game. So with wedges, spin rate, launch angle, etc. can differ a lot. Iron spin rate and this distance can differ a lot. And with driver, the main thing is ball speed. Yeah. And it’s very hard with the driver to like really adjust the spin rate by I don’t know thousand RPM with a ball. That’s nearly impossible. That’s three good ones straight off the bat with that. I enjoyed I enjoyed those things. So essentially what we do here is fit to your irions initially. Then maybe look at some chip shots, some puts and of course driver with the ball to see not only if you like the feel of it that works together with performance, but then obviously the performance with the driver still works and matches nicely. Yeah. Right. This is the Pro. So Pro is also a threepiece cast urethane. Similar construction than the Pro Air, but like the plan on that ball was to have a good mix and match again between spin and distance. So the Pro Air would be the distance category. The plus would be control, spin, etc. Higher speeds. And then that one fits really well in the middle. Yeah, that feels really soft. That feels lovely. It’s funny because we’re not just hitting balls here to see which one goes the longest either, are we? Because that would be a a counterproductive method. Yeah, I know. Okay. Very nice. Okay. And the feel-wise on that one, I do I do quite like the sound of that. Yeah. Yeah. That like we get a lot of feedback on that ball that it feels like super soft and I would say also in that car urethane category that’s the softest in terms of feel. Mhm. Yeah. So, is this Pro Plus potentially going to feel a bit firmer for me here, do you think? Yeah, in theory, yes. And that’s uh the only four piece ball. Yeah. The really interesting thing to do here would be block them out, wouldn’t it? Like almost number them, block them out, and then just hit them. I mean, I don’t really know the differences between these balls anyway. But this is when we do ball testing and also new ball development. They’re just marked with numbers, so we don’t have any model names on and then we do like this player testings. Then nobody knows what ball we are testing. That felt fantastic. I left the face open a bit, but felt lovely. was a touch heavy. Mhm. And hold on a second. That’s maybe good to see. So when you do kind of ball testing also by yourself, you have to be very careful in what shots you take into account. So the first one with the Pro Plus spinned around 7,000. Yeah. And then that one was slightly heavy and the spin rate dropped by 1,000 RPM. So that’s when we do that human testing. It’s very important to be like very experienced with that ball flight data to know okay that one I have to move out when I really want to compare averages otherwise like every ball will be uh the same in the end good impact yeah lovely feels like it’s launching a little bit lower that one actually yeah and same for sid spin also maybe an effect that not everybody’s aware of if the ball tends to fade to the right side, you get more spin. If it draws or hooks to the left side, you get less spin. That’s a bottom one. Mhm. One more. One more. Good one with this, I think. Done well for bottom, though. There we go. Yeah. Lovely. Solid. No sid spin. Very nice. So, yeah, let’s check quickly the numbers. I sort them for you and then let’s have a look and compare them against each other and see if we find any significant differences in there. So now we have the overview for our five ball models from just hitting like I think around three shots in average with each ball which is of course not good enough for scientific research. We hit more than three but we’ve taken three good shots haven’t we? Yeah. So normally that you get an idea like in doing ball testing with humans you would maybe need no matter what handicap around like 15 to 20 shots. So this take sometimes a whole day to test like one specific um parameter on balls. So if you look at the drive balls compared to the tour that’s like as I said the two sin models spin rate pretty close to each other. What is I think amazing here the spin rate is pretty high. So at least with a mid iron you’re getting the same spin rate as an all pro plus that would change on wedges. Yeah. If you would hit like uh 56 or 60 etc. then you see the big difference or the big advantage of cast urethine. Ball speed wise tour performs slightly better than drive and drive is launching slightly higher. Distance wise this is most affected by ball speed. So tour had a slightly higher ball speed. Therefore you gained some yards extra. Then on Pro Air, we’re really similar to the Tour in terms of ball speed, launched even higher and spin way lower. So especially for those guys looking for distance for an iron, if you can launch it high and spin it less, it gives you more distance and as long as you’re not playing stim 13 or something, normally it should not be an issue to landing angle is going to help you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So as I said, for every player either with reduced speed or with speed, but looking for distance, that would be a good ball. Then the Pro model, very good ball speed. I think these were just three pure pure strikes uh on that one. Spin rate increased again. So here we see a huge difference compared to the Pro Air. So nearly like uh 600 um RPM. Pretty the same um distance as the Pro Air, just a different type of ball flight. Yeah, the one is more penetrating and the one is spinning more. And then the Pro Plus, pretty similar ball speed with an iron. With a driver, that would change slightly. So the Pro Plus would go up slightly and spin-wise slightly higher on a mid iron. Then again, the big advantage would be on wedges. I’m really pleased with that. I think I’ve put on a a good performance there, Bob. So what what we do now then? Cuz we want to check it with driver, don’t we? I I preferred the Pro. I thought the Pro felt a little bit softer, and I feel like potentially it could spin a bit more the driver for me. I think if I go into the Pro Plus, it’s going to be too low a spin with driver. Yeah, I would also say you would not need the Pro Plus in order to because you don’t have any spin issues on driver and like your bunches, your ball is anyway launching quite low. So, there would be no need. I think as long as you don’t struggle on wedges with the last 200, 300 RPM spin, I would say the Pro is a good match for you. Yeah, you get a best combination of uh spin and distance. So, let’s try the pro out on driver and uh see what’s the outcome. Amazing. So, adjusted that driver we picked for you with adjusted to 10° loft and the Viz plus 65 shaft. Amazing. And we’re going to test the Pro ball. Quite pleased with that with how it hit it. Yeah, good impact. Slightly too low in terms of launch, but 285 total. Not bad head. Yeah, if that launches two degrees higher. That’s what I think would be your go-to shot. always kind of bib um stays very neutral, not launching super high. That’s it’s around that 270 carry spinning at 21. So, we don’t want it spinning any lower than that cuz that’s when it drops out the air, doesn’t it? Yeah. Nice. Just a bit left. Yeah. If you could launch that just slightly higher, I think then this attack angle would like somehow neutralize the swing pass. And through that additional launch. It needs to be here. Yeah. Needs to be there. So close to being But that’s I think also a good uh a good info like as soon as you try to launch a ball, hit it up, etc. Normally for most players, it’s more difficult and it gets like uh you end up in a bigger dispersion. So I think it’s not good for everybody. Oh yeah, that felt nice. Yeah, if that one was not far off the center, it can catch the 300. 291. Interesting to see how that spins cuz that was that 22. Yeah, 223. So yeah, it was a bit on a heel slightly up the face. Therefore, we lost kind of like 3 four miles ball speed. Beside that I think pretty good parameters. Mhm. Sounded bit better. Yeah. And I think when we look at that kind of ball flight, there would be absolutely no need to say we want to go for a ball which lowers again the driver or lowers the spin rate. Like we are in that spin category 1,800 up to 2,500 for normal golf shots. So I think uh that’s a good ball. That’s nice. See, that’s the shot I want to play as well. Mhm. That’s got to be it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I like that. 299. Yeah. But two 2-1 spin again. Near enough a 160 ball. Now he’s not going to stop. Oh, no chance. which that would be something if somebody would be really interested in like finding out the last one two three miles ball speed that would be then the pro plus model where you get like the best conversion when you really speed up. Yeah. But I think they’re overall maybe 1% golfers with you have that speed where you really profit from that uh kind of ball characteristic. Okay. Okay. Um, lastly, let’s do a quick check on 56. So, typical sunvet. And there I think you have the big benefit of a casure theme ball. So, we want to see there definitely a high spin rate to yeah play around the greens um and be very versatile. And a big misconception with this is people thinking they want a soft ball with a wedge, but if the club head speed isn’t there, it’s not really a a feel issue, is it? Some nice smooth 100 yarders, Bob. Yeah. A bit more forward with the ball otherwise it will not Yeah. Mhm. Contact. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. I think that one was around 90ish 97 yard total. Yeah. So, I think that’s already a good example. So, that one carried 93 yards and we got a spin rate slightly above 10,000 RPM. That’s crazy. Yeah. That’s And I’m probably I’m probably pushing this to get to 100 yards as well. Really, that one might be probably launched a bit lower to get there. Mini drop. Yeah. So, I’d imagine that spin might be a touch lower. Is it saying? Yeah. A touch lower due to that flight shape to the left side, but still above 10,000, which is So, we’re still generating Yeah. usable numbers. bit drop kicky, but it’s going to be okay. And I think that’s not cool when we compare like these um three clubs against each other in a quick overview and just look at the spin numbers. So, we have the iron 7, then we got the driver, and then we got the veg. So top line, the purple, we see the iron spinning 6,200. Yeah, which is I think for your speed pretty perfect. Then with the driver, we’re going to have a low spin rate. 2,200. But we said for you it’s perfect to be in that range. 2,000 is maybe the lowest one and 2,400 would be the highest one. And here we see no number because the spin everything spin which is above 10,000 he cannot display. So if we watch out these two wet shots like 10,500 and 10,200 and that’s exactly that combination which stands for cascure theme. Yeah, perfect. Well guys, if you’re in the market for new golf balls, you’re thinking about changing your golf ball in 2025 or beyond, make sure you do go and check out the website and think about what golf ball you’re buying as well. It might be price driven, it might be performance driven, but I think Vice offer a really nice combination of both. Marco, thank you very much for your time. Thank you. Really appreciate it, guys. Lots of videos to come out here at Vice HQ. We visited them for a couple of days to make some really fun videos for you guys. So, if you want to see them, hit that subscribe button below. But apart from that, I think it’s time for the beer hall. Bob, is it? They’re on you, Bob. They’re on you. They only do liters. Roast.