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the Jason Gregor inside the tent. keeping his balance, getting help from his friends, finding his way to the goal line on sports in 40. [Laughter] Presented by playalberta.ca, CA Alberta’s only regulated online gambling website. Score the two. What a lovely Tuesday afternoon. How are you and welcome to the Jason Greger show. Sports1440 sports1440.ca orders Nation YouTube, Facebook, X uh and Instagram. As always, uh thanks for watching. Thanks for uh listening to the show. It is uh we’ve been on I guess this is day one of uh year three here on uh sports 1440. So it’s uh two uh two full years in the books. So I guess this is technically the start of year three, but until you get all the way through it, you’re uh you’re not done three years. But uh thanks so much for many of you who have uh listened throughout. the text of the show at uh 83341-11440 83341440. So uh very much appreciate that and emails and just listening uh maybe you’re giving it a like on uh YouTube or commenting anywhere listening uh we very much appreciate it and uh we’re uh continue to grow and add new things which will be uh exciting. So uh look forward to that. Uh also we have busy lineup for you today. Uh looking forward to it. So we will uh we’re going to talk a lot of hockey. We’re going to talk some football of course uh CFL, some uh NFL, maybe mix in a little fantasy. Many of you who are in fantasy leagues likely did your draft. You like your draft? Are you already regretting it? If you’re in multiple drafts, I’m curious. Do you pick the same guys, a few of them in multiple drafts? I just heard Connor Hally laugh, so I’m wondering if Connor’s the guy who has it. Do you have multiple guys in multiple drafts, Connor? Picked in the same spot. Got essentially Well, not essentially the same team, but a lot of guys. Yeah. Really debated it too, but it’s Jir Gibbs. What pick did you have? Three. Three. Yeah. So, I thought like in the other league, I thought maybe I go Saquon and then No, I got I had to roll with my guy. So, when he pops off, it’s going to be good for me in two of my leagues. Now, are you in full PPR league? Uh, half point PPR. Half point PPR. because you could have uh I could see CD Lamb being an option there. Totally agree with you. Uh thought about it, but I’m just I don’t know. My my fantasy football days go back to the early 2000s when it was running back heavy. So, I just feel like I have that bias that’s always been lingering, but Jir Gibbs as a receiver, he’s a threat, too. So, I I’m very happy with the pick. I also got Baker Mayfield on both my teams. Uh George KD on both my teams. There was a few duplicate picks, so I know which way I go on that question. All right. So, uh you’re the duplicator. That’s me. I’m sure how many how many of you now the fact that you had the same pick in each draft is uh is quite odd. So, um, I had, uh, so now, usually I’m only in one, uh, but I I went in a second draft this year, a guillotine. Oh, nice. League. And so, for anybody who doesn’t know what a guillotine, there’s 18 teams, which I was like, what? But then I realized, so all you have to do is not finish last in points for the week and you stay alive. You don’t get extra points if you finish first because I was like, what if you’re the highscoring team for the first seven weeks and you’re dominating, then you have one bad week. Well, then you’re out. if you’re last. All you have you can be second last you’re still in. So we’re in a guillotine league. There was 18 guys and they just do a random um you know and so I got ninth and I was like me whatever. So I had I took uh Puka Nakua there uh ninth overall. So I was all right. But um you know I don’t mind my team. It’s it’s hard. I just look I said I think my team’s good enough to get through the first few weeks, right? Like I I went with Arizona’s defense because they play the Saints in week one and you’re like you just got to get through the first week. Well, they should not get lit up by the New Orleans Saints. God help me. So, there we go. So, we’ll talk a little NFL. The CFL huge news figuratively and on the field for the Elks today as they’ve signed Carter O’Donnell, draft pick, who’s who’s been in the NFL for the last few years. This is a massive get for them. Anybody who watched yesterday’s game knows that at times their O line gets overwhelmed. This is a huge addition. They cost you nothing, right? It’s a player they have that they drafted. And to get Carter O’Donnell here is huge for the Elks. Man, that was a frustrating game yesterday. There’s really no reason they should have been trailing at half. They It should have been closer. Like you go and you look at some of the mistakes like just selfinduced wounds by the Elks. I I go back to to the I didn’t love the play call on second and three in like a delayed draw almost and the rank and got wrapped up draw. I go play action there. If you want to roll out and then throw it to him in the flat all day long you only need three yards. I didn’t love that play because they’d be moving the ball for a field goal. So now you’re down now. Even if they got a first down, maybe they would have had to settle for a shorter field goal. I’ll never know. But I didn’t love that play call. Then I did not the grab it back. Like I’m sorry. I I get he’s an offensive lineman. He’s in the tight end position. He’s running across the line in motion. Snap hits him. But you got to know the snap count. I saw Declan tweeting about it. You got to know the snap count. Like this is that’s pretty that’s pretty basic. And like that is one of the most unusual turnovers I’ve seen in quite some time. I’m I’m trying to think if I’ve ever seen that happen. Like I’ve seen guys botch a snap, right? You you you muff it and it goes over the head of the quarterback. Sometimes the the exchange between the quarterback and the center gets muffed. But I can’t recall the last time I saw the snap hit the guy crossing in motion. I’m sure it’s happened. I just can’t remember the last time it happened. And that was awful. And then, you know, Blanchard mentioned that chip shot, not ideal. I know he hit a 52 yard later. Great. And he’s been pretty much money under 40, but it’s a bad miss. And then when you combine it, did you see what Calgary did, Connor Hally, with 14 seconds to go in the half? And I have I have preached this for years. Why are you ever taking a knee when you’ve got 12 14 seconds left? Because exactly what happened is why you take a chance downfield. pass interference. Now, automatically you’re into field goal range. Now, I know there’s a chance of an interception, but that’s a lower percentage chance, right? What happens more often in a game? Interceptions or pass defensive pass interference? Well, we know what happens more pass interference. So, I and even by then, if you turn it over, well, now they’re going to have to go farther either way. Um, I like that play by Calgary. And then boom, all of a sudden, like that’s a five-point swing in a matter of like 15 seconds. It was brutal. Absolutely brutal. So, uh, and then in the third quarter, the Alex defense gave up nothing. The Sams were barely on the field and the offense just couldn’t get it going. Uh, we will hear from Cody Fardo. He’s going to join us live in the first hour of the show. And I’ll be curious cuz I haven’t really seen Cody overthrow guys high as often as he did yesterday. So I wonder is is that like an emotional thing? Is a mechanical thing? I don’t know, but I’m going to ask him. Um I will say I don’t think it got enough talk about how much they missed Steven Dunar in that game. Steven Dunar is their best route runner. He creates space. He gets open a lot more than any other receiver. And him not being in there, that’s a big blow. Then you throw in Matthysse. So that’s two of, you know, your season starting top three, top four receivers for sure. And then Curly Gen Jr., well, he gets banged up. Doesn’t finish the game. Uh, no word yet on if he’ll play or not. You hope he does. It didn’t look like it was that serious, but you never know because if he’s out Saturday, that’s now three of your top four. It’s awful. But, you know, the Elks defense, it’s going to be hardressed to limit Calgary. I know that, you know, Calgary had some running here there, but they didn’t really pass the ball. Like, for the longest time, they were stuck at 91 yards. It’s basically like 91 yards for the first three quarters. I don’t have much issue with the defense. Now, they’re not getting any sacks. That’s still a problem. And, you know, Jake Szna left the game. Doesn’t look good. So, not going to make it any easier. But I’m still flabbergasted that this deep into the season, the Elks D line is almost non-existent when it comes to sacks. Connor H. Like it is mind-blowing to me. I’m with you. And it’s like to the point where we get overly excited when they actually get home. Like it, wow, they they actually did it. And you know, there was a lot of things there that I totally do agree with you. and uh the the protection on the offensive line hopefully hopefully will help them big time because the Stampeders were getting home with rushing three and like giving Fajardo f and you know the high throws I know he’s not going to say it but it was pressure I mean he couldn’t plant his feet he was throwing on the run he had to make uh tough throws and and try to get rid of the ball quicker than he wanted to and that’s just directly from the offensive line so I’m glad they’re being proactive they’re going out there and signing a guy who we think is going to fit right in like he’s played a few years in the NFL maybe there’s a little process of getting used to the CFL game once again, but played at the UFA, so we know he’s going to probably pretty seamlessly fit back into the CFL game. But yeah, the the inability to get sacks, it’s in the trenches, and we know that’s where Ed Hervey wants to build this team. Uh, but there’s some work to do, and I’m curious to see what happens with Jake Serna, but honestly, the defense did a pretty pretty good job. Like, it felt like death by a thousand cuts. Like, it was just little things game by game. It wasn’t really big plays outside of the punt return. They just kind of slowly let that game get out of hand when all game long it felt like they were close. They could have, you know, connected on maybe one of the deep balls to Julian Grant or uh broken a tackle. Like it could have gone another way, but the the Stampeders fundamentally a good team. Didn’t let it happen. No. So, uh, Saturday I’m expecting the biggest crowd of the season for the Green and Gold, which will be uh which will be fantastic. And I, uh, I look forward to, uh, to seeing, you know, what the crowd is and how the Elks respond. also uh looking forward to going to the uh the first brunch that they’re going to have. This is going to become a new tradition for the Elks and their fans. If you want to go, it’ll be on the Saturday, the Labor Day rematch brunch is what it’s called. And this is the first year and it’s going to become an annual event. Starts at 11:00 a.m. If you’ve ever been to the Spirit of Edmonton, it’s basically like that. You’re going to have it in a room. There’s going to be entertainment. Obviously, instead of having breakfast, it’s going to be brunch. and uh you know they’ll there’ll be some slle juice if you’ve ever been involved in that and and performances and lots of things uh all in support of amateur football across northern Alberta including the Nashville women’s U8 indigenous tackle football team who had some of their money stolen. So uh I know that the the Elks are going to help out with that. So you’ve got breakfast buffet, high energy entertainment, live music, even a shuttle to the game. So if you want to go go to uh the Elks website, click on the community link and uh you’ll see it there. or Labor Day brunch. Uh my understanding is there’s a few tickets left available to that. So you can also buy tickets at the table and also get a ticket to a game if you like. So should be fun. 83341440. 83341440. It is the Jason Greger show presented by Playalberta.ca where uh you can get in the game. Uh it is Tuesday. use uh check it out because Lotto Max on Tuesday uh a very a very nice prize to win $40 million the Devon Dubnick of Play Alberta.ca. So we got Kevin Woodley coming up, Cody Fardo, Terry Ryan, Dave McCarthy, Strutddy Spec. Uh, we’ll also have a a heart from Puck Pedia, Hart Lavine, talking about all the Did you hear did you see his uh his tweet about the changes to the CBA because we know a new CBA officially starts next year. However, there is going to be um some changes right now starting for this year, right? the changes to the LTI, the playoff salary cap will begin the playoffs of 26. Uh, no deferred compensation that begins any so if any player wants to sign before September 16th, then technically they could get that stuff. Uh, no more paper loans anymore. The double retent retention restriction also uh goes in play, which that’s the one that that’s the most headscratching one for me. I don’t really understand as to uh to why um you know both sides would be for like I to me the double retention just increased trades a little bit. I I guess the theory is people are saying well hey you’re getting a player at one quarter of his cap hit and so it is a a bonus and usually you’re giving up like third rounder or fourth so I guess maybe they see that as a too much of an advantage so that’s why they’re changing which hey if it’s fair for everybody then it’s fair for everybody it might limit uh some teams to to make moves and it’s probably why you still see there’s there’s a host of guys unsigned um some some decent players that uh that are without contracts. So, uh we’ll we’ll kind of run down that. A few of them are goenders. We’ll talk about that with with Kevin Woodley coming up here uh right away. Also, some NHL news. Uh Dave Lowry is uh joining the Calgary Flames as an assistant coach. So, joins them. Uh former Oil Kings head coach Brad Lowour had to step away due to personal reasons. So, uh that’s why the the late coaching edition for the uh for the flames. So, uh that is uh that’s interesting. So, we’ll get to all that. We’ll get your text 833 401440. 83341440. Hey guys, I was uh golfing and drafting at the same time. Autopicked uh four guys. Autodraft picked four guys for me. Filming now. See, we do our Dupies draft, which I’ve been in for a long time. It’s I’ve been in it for like 20 years. It’s great. You know, it’s pretty intense. Lots of the same guys. It’s lots of fun. And we always have a big dinner. We get together and we have dinner and you have the draft. We have the big draft board with stickers. And if you lost the year before, part of your punishment is you got to be the guy who puts the stickers on the board. It’s the worst job, right? Because it kind of takes away from your your ability to focus on the draft. You know, we we give you an extra minute when it’s your time to draft, but that’s it. So it’s you there that’s a punishment. You don’t want it at all. But the other draft I did was was just online virtually, right? So you just sit in there and you know you pick and I I never did an autodraft. I want to pick it myself because if I win then I could take credit for it and if I lose well then I can only blame myself. But there’s no excitement really. There’s not much talking going on. Like maybe if we put it on a Zoom call the next time at the same time. But I have to say the live in-person draft infinitely more enjoyable. I kind of like it. I look forward to that. It’s just kind of part of the whole process. 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See if we can see if we can close that gap a little bit more next time I’m out. So, you know, try to project positive things out there into the goalie universe. Wow. Tough one. So, when when you know you have a like you’re feeling it or you’re not feeling it, I guess is the better way to put it during the skate, are you just done yet? You can’t refocus. And when you’re not feeling it, what’s usually the where’s the weakness on Kevin Woodley? Oh, it’s between the ears 100%. Right. So, um not just not just between the legs of the five hole, it’s between the ears. Uh, it’s interesting though, I will say this, and um, this is not to pat in Goal Magazine on the back, but a lot of the things that I go looking for during a regular season talking to guys around the league is like little tips and advice and things that um, you know, are designed to help young goalenders. And obviously, as I’m having those conversations, I’m learning myself, right, even as a soon to be 52-year-old beer leaguer. And one of the ones that I really think has resonated with me over the years, and maybe the goalie parents listening to this right now can can talk to their young goalie about it heading into the season, is the idea of having a mantra, something that you use to reset. And we’ve seen guys over the years, I remember Michael Dpietro going into World Juniors, I’m trying to remember what his was, but he had it written in his blocker. Cory Schneider over the years had it written in his blocker. Eric Comry writes it on the back of his stick, and he’ll change it up over time. Uh and and for me it’s the three Ps and it’s it’s posture in terms of my setup and being sort of set up properly with my my sort of hips up and not sinking or sitting. It’s position is the second P. Am I, you know, inside the edge of my crease as as a as a as a sort of home base? And then it’s puck. Am I watching the puck? because you it’s it’s unreal how many times you can get caught up with reading and you’re trying to look off the puck and all those things, but at the end of the day, you’ve got to track it as well. So, those are the three for me. Um, and so my ability to reel it in has probably improved since I developed that as just a a reset mindset. I like that uh mantra and we’ve talked to Laurian Monzer about that many times. It it it can it can just ground people is probably an interesting way to put it. Now, let’s Here we are. It’s September 2nd and three guys, and I know one of them you’re a big fan of last year had really good numbers. James Rhymer, uh Alexander Gorgv, and Ilia Samson Sonoff are all unsigned. Kevin, what are you hearing? And uh if you were a team, is there a team in a match that you think would be a good fit? I’m not hearing anything. So, we’re not going to we’re not going to pretend this is insider speculation by any stretch of the imagination. Obviously, Skinner would have skated with James Rhyr, would have been up working out with James Rhyr in the summer, so he’d have a bit of a built-in relationship there. There’s some experience. Um, he’s been a guy that’s carried the mail for teams over the years at various points of his career. He’s had kind of a remarkable career. Uh, I would assume, uh, and I don’t know this for sure, but I would assume based on the groupings that are typically up in Colona, that that also means the goalie coach would have had a look as well, right? Like he when Peter Aubrey went there, he probably would have got eyes on James, too. So, I don’t know if that means anything. That’s just an assumption on my part. What I can tell you statistically, he’s the best of the bunch, at least last year. Uh, and arguably, actually, over the course of the past three seasons, um, Samson Sonoff has really bounced around and there’s been a bit of a resistance to change at at various points in his career. I think he was a little bit late to finally realizes that the way he got away with things because of, you know, some of his high skill set uh when he when he was in Russia before he came over. Um it took him a while to sort of embrace the need to evolve and so he’s a little late to that party. Uh you know, it’s funny. We talk a lot about narrow butterfly with Steuart Skinner. Ilia Samsonov is in the same boat and so you can watch when it gets in tight in scramble situations. It’s like pinball flippers back there because the legs are stuck in behind him. I actually think part of it is the way he does his equipment. His pads are so tight on his legs that he doesn’t give himself any mobility in terms of the ability to get the feet out to the side of him. And so anything anytime things go east west on him, you know, they got to reather that leg out in front of you before you can push. And there’s a lot of kicking at pucks. And it looks it can when it goes well look really athletic. it can look, you know, quick. Truth is, it’s probably just busy and it’s not necessarily efficient. And so, um, I think that’s a book that’s out there in terms of if you can get things in tight on him. the fact that he lost the job in Vegas to Akira Schmidt by the end of the season and and if you look at the year that Schmeid had in the American hockey gets the opportunity in the NHL and we’ve talked about it before he’s one of those guys that is better in the NHL than he is in the American League but Samson Sonov essentially lost that job to him and Gorgv listen I’ve always believed there’s a number one potential goalie there um with the Rangers we saw signs of it I don’t know what happened in Colorado it looked like he got really rigid like you know like just really stiff stiffen his movements. And I know in San Jose they worked on trying to just make it a little more fluid, relax the hands a little bit so they’re not just sort of stuck out. Um there’s talent there for sure. There was a process in San Jose started. I ju I just don’t know that you can un unwind whatever happened in Colorado in terms of the rigidness. So to me, absolutely, he’s a guy you would take a look at, but probably with a mind towards rebuilding over the course of a season, and I don’t know that that fits the Oilers and where they’re at. I’m really curious to see where he ends up above all else. Um, but Rhymer to me out of those three is the guy who comes with experience. We know he’s a great teammate, uh, and he had a great season last year. like his numbers, as I’ve told you before, like just barely below Jake Allen’s in terms of adjusted save percentage. So, uh, finished the year strong to me, he would be a fit. The question, though, is are any of those guys an upgrade, right? And that’s that’s sort of the conversation that surrounds the Oilers. I don’t know what it is internally, but that’s the conversation that surrounds them. It’s not just getting another goalie. It’s are you looking to upgrade on on on your backup situation potentially, or are you looking to upgrade on your number one? And so, do you make a move now or do you look for a bigger upgrade later in the season? I don’t know what to expect. I don’t think any of those guys are the latter. Would it be an upgrade on Pickard? I mean, from an I mean, they clearly love Calvin Pickard as a teammate, as a guy who goes to work and they play really hard for him. And so, that has value. It’s a little harder to quantify if I just look at the numbers statistically speaking last year. And I actually think if you look at the raw numbers, like the the NHL.com stats, for lack of a better term, uh without having them in front of me, I bet you Pickard’s right there with James might have even had a better year than James Rhyr on those numbers. On the adjusted numbers, it definitely tips towards Rhymer by a I wouldn’t say significant, but somewhat significant. Like he was that good last year, like flirting with top 25 in the league and well above expected. And to me that that by the numbers absolutely tips in his favor. That doesn’t mean that the numbers alone are what you’re judging this on. Kevin Whittley from Ingo Magazine and NHL.com uh joins us. So you know Kev, you look at it and you know we’re a few weeks rookies actually will report next Wednesday and uh and then you get rolling a week after that you have the veterans reporting. you know, there’s rookie camps or tournaments or just headto-head like Edmonton and Calgary will play each other twice in a span of uh three days uh later next week. Um the goalending kind of off season and you know it’s shorter for some. We we know that uh Stuart Skinner was out in in Colona, spent some time with Aubrey at at different things. Yeah, I think at times some people forget how good Steuart Skinner was in the 50 games under no obl. right? Like he was top eight I think it was in goals against save percentage and goals saved above expected. Like that was a really good 50game stretch, right? And in the playoffs he had 21 games where he had a 2.14 and a 916. The other two games were horrific and that really kind of cratered his numbers those two games against the Canucks. So kind of do you have any expectation on Skinner and maybe what you think might look different this year? Yeah, it’s a really good question Jason. Like we know that he’s a growth guy, right? right? Like he’s always looking for for things to improve on. Uh no stone unturned. I do think as you mature and you get further in your career, you sort of learn maybe not to look too much, if that makes sense. Like I’m always a guy that applauds the I I love the guys that are looking for new things, but at some point, you know, obviously on a much different scale. I talked about sort of having my three Ps to ground me when I’m floundering in low-level beer leagues, but it it is similar. At some point, you have to decide what your foundation is and not chase it. And so, he’s had a couple of years, you know, in Colona with Francilia. Um, that was a change the year before. Like, that was something he was going through and still evolving into. Well, now he’s had a second year with it. I do expect to see some different things off the rush from him this year. Just looking at how the goalies played in Chicago. We’ve talked about some of those reads. I would not be surprised. This is a trend around the league. Rather than being out early and retreating, just sort of sitting home and letting the letting letting the play almost get to the blue line. I know USA for hockey or USA hockey for example used to talk about like as they’re teaching at the highest highest level NTDP like ready on red. So, it got to the center line. That’s when you’re ready. Now, it’s more like at the blue line and you’re three/4ers up in your crease and you’re letting the play develop before you go take ice. In other words, before you take a step out, you have a better read. You’re able to sort of scan the whole thing. And so, you have less backwards flow. I was just cutting video. I’m I’m I’m connecting with Dustin Wolf after you and I get off the air here looking at rush plays. We’re doing a video sitdown session and I was looking at his rush, his oddman rush, his breakaway. Dude, he’s never out of the crease. Like, almost never. like he starts there. I’m not saying that will be where Steuart Skinner’s game goes completely, but we’ve talked about the juxtaposition in size and how much less ice Dustin Wolf takes and therefore in my mind how much less ice Steuart Skinner probably needs to take than he than he used to. And that’ll be the one big adjustment I think we’ll see. And that should in theory give him more time to process what’s coming at him. make it much less likely that he gets caught moving, flowing backwards, or with unnecessary depth on rush chances. And there were a lot of times last year, you and I talked about this, we’d come out of a, you know, a week’s worth of games and we’d look back at him, I’d be like, you know, like, yeah, it looks like he has no chance here, but he didn’t give himself a chance. And I think that that it’s funny because it seems like a small thing. Like I didn’t go through like how many goals that would have made a difference on last year, but it’s not insignificant. It’ll help. But I’ve seen that type of adjustment flow into the entire game of a goalender. Charlie Lingren is one. So all of a sudden instead of playing with flow off the rush, he got a little more setup and a little more short steps, short movements rather than getting widened out. And then he talked about how that fed into how he handled point shots or stuff off the perimeter shifting into plays rather than widening out and spreading out and getting spled. So that little change off the rush can sometimes fuel different movement patterns in terms of staying over top of your knees, being less likely to widen out and end up sort of, you know, again, sort of that that forward flop maneuver like a little more balanced games, more shifts, less less sliding. I’ve seen it with other guys. I’m not saying that’s what’s going to happen, but I expect that change off the rush and we’ve seen with other goalenders how it can flow into other parts of their game. And that would probably be the hope if you’re the Oilers that one small change there can add a little more balance to other elements and give you a few more saves here and there. And you know, listen, at the end of the day, the proof will be in the pudding and we’ve got a lot of games to watch before we get to the end of season and a lot of decisions to make for the Oilers. But you’re not reinventing the wheel here. You’re trying to find things that will give you one or two% differences. And I think that could be one of those things for Steuart Skinner this year. Kevin Woodley from Ingo Magazine and NHL.com joins us. Kev, when you look at uh is there any goalie who’s in a new team that has you intrigued to see how he’s going to play? How many goalies are on new teams this year? There’s nothing that I know it’s a pretty short list. I’m I’m probably looking more for new goalies in new situations. Like Jed Greavves was remarkable last year. like and the underlying numbers, you know, he was one of my guys going into last season. It’s like if he gets an opportunity, he could show a lot of people how good he is because the underlying numbers said this was there. Now, the the challenge now is he exceeded he was so good down the stretch and his season on a whole like if you were to take what Jet Greavves did in the small sample last year and you managed to pull that off for an entire season, you get the heart trophy. Like hands down, no questions asked, you get the heart trophy. That’s how good he was. I don’t think it’s fair. like he almost raised the bar to an unfairly high level. But I do think that this guy is an NHL goalender and he’s probably going to get an opportunity. Of course, that said, new expectations, new role, things are different. It’s not a weekend league like the American League. You’re playing every second night, new things to manage. Dustin Wolf, his second season as a starter. Um, obviously he raised the bar in the first season. Can he continue it as more teams start to focus in on him and build film and look for tendencies? Um, so those are some of, you know, not necessarily a different situation, but Wolf went into a tandem last year. This year he goes in as a Calder Trophy finalist and a guy who’s going to be expected, you know, to perform at a number one level. Um, in terms of new new faces in new places, I’m struggling to think of how many there are. Well, there’s John Gibson, right? I would argue Spencer Knight in Chicago. Um, there’s Morazzic in Anaheim, although he’s he’s going to be a backup backup. Anything else? Dan Vadar, same thing in fellow though. He could be the I don’t know what Phillyy’s going to do. Like Dan Vadar could be the starter there, you know. We’ll see. So, those are some of the guys. There’s not a lot. You’re right. Right. But I just Yeah. I guess the big one’s Gibby. Like the big one’s Gibson for sure. And, you know, again, the question I have is will we be able to see it? Like I do think he’s going to be better. I’m just not sure that they’re a team that allows their goalender to shine. And so, you know, it’ll be interesting to see what the public numbers look like and what his numbers look like. And we’ve talked about this before when the Oilers were in the running. Can they as a team stop giving up the chances that plagued him the most? Like, that will be part of this conversation. And interestingly enough, you know, it’s funny we talk we talk about departments. I find it interesting that this is goalie week at NHL.com and I’m going to contribute to it with a piece that’ll be out Friday. Um, but it should be goalie coach week because they only they only had four days in the week with the with the Labor Day and and and they’re always getting stiffed it seems whether it’s salary or other things. But we do have another director of goalending and I can’t remember if I told you this, it’s now official. Um, but Brian Deord, Joey Dord’s dad, longtime he was a director in Arizona. He was a goalie scout with the Maple Leafs. He was a goalending coach with the Boston Bruins. He’s run one of the, you know, preeminent goalie training facilities, multiple locations on the east coast in the Boston, Massachusetts area for 25 years now. He is now the director of goalending with Detroit. And so as they invest more in the position is part of that being able to figure out, hey, like will there be more of a voice with the staff in terms of the goalie coaches and the goalie department being able to say like, hey, we can’t give this up. I do think there’s been very little of that in Detroit goalie. They’ve they’ve supported the position in terms of hires but then left it on an island. I’m curious to see if they get more voice in the conversation. I think a lot of that has just gone to veteran coaches in the past and goalending has been an afterthought. Even when those veteran coaches like Derek Lulon have been former goalenders, I don’t know that how the goalie fits in the system has been enough of a conversation. I’m curious to see if if that can make a change. And yet again, another example, this isn’t a criticism of the Oilers in particular because it’s still half the league, but I think we’re up to 16 out of 32 now have a director of goalending. And when you look at the job Decor did with the Arizona Coyotes, you can draw a direct line between them having Carl Bamela, a guy that nobody was even scouting at the time and basically found free money to them having Brian Decord as their director. not because he was the one that went and found him, but because he set up a system of checks and balances that allowed them to not only identify, but then run it through a process for by the time they got to contract, they were confident they had a guy that could be an NHL goalender. And we’ve seen that Bamela has the ability to be a lot more than just an NHL goalender. And I I just think you increase your odds of having finds like that. We can David Ridge may you may not have panned out to the degree but you can the same example with Calgary. Uh Solder Bloom was another guy that Arizona almost signed under Brian Dord’s watch. They went BLA over Solder Bloom. Look at the look at what he’s become in Chicago out you know passing Loren Brasis. Another name to keep in mind and I if he comes back in Chicago they’ll have three there. But like there are examples where you can have free found money if you have the right people looking. Yeah Kev, great stuff man. I really appreciate it. Uh, thanks so much for this and we’ll talk to you again soon. Yeah. Should we start the breakdowns next week? Start going through the depth charts and ranking them, buddy. You’re reading those. That’s what we’ll be doing. Yeah, that gives us about four weeks. So, perfect timing. Thank you, sir. Awesome. That’s Kevin Woodley from Inggo Magazine and NHL.com. Yeah, we love the the rankings. He goes through each division, ranks him from 8 to one where he sees the the goalies and and and he does not just the starter but the whole goalie 10. So, we’ll I’ll start that next Monday. When we come back, Cody Fardo joins us. It’s the Jason Gregor Show presented by Play Alberta. 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The Saints are going to unveil their brand new arena on their home opener on September 19th. So, get your tickets to the home opener, sgs.ca. And man, that facility, unbelievable. It’s going to be great. So, the fans in Spruce Grove uh are going to be in for a treat in that new barn that opens up on the 19th. Let’s talk to the uh starting quarterback for the Edmonton Elks. Cody Fardo joins us once again. Cody, good afternoon. How you doing? Good. How are you guys doing, gentlemen? Uh we’re excellent. Cody um is I I was watching Mark Kllum and his his halftime interview to me was like kind of frustration where he’s like, “Man, I think we left a lot on the field in that first half. There’s lots of where the team played really well and then there was just a few key mistakes that cost you guys some points.” As a QB, did you kind of feel like the first half was really maybe what ultimately cost you the game? I think honestly um you know there was a series of I think it was like three or four different series that kind of played out in put us kind of behind the eightball going into halftime. Uh we had a nice drive that we put together and unfortunately had a miscommunication with one of the players in the back field. Ball hits him. We uh we turn the ball over in the red zone. Uh then we go down, we we drive, we unfortunately miss a field goal which obviously happens and then we take a PI. they kick a field goal and all of a sudden we look up and what could have been a 10-10 ball game going into half, we were ended up being down nine points um and two possessions. And so that’s that’s kind of how those games play out when you play the best team in the league and and arguably the best defense statistically in the league. Like you cannot make those mistakes, self-inflicted wounds because it’s hard enough just to score points on on the the toughest defense and the best teams and and you can’t shoot yourself in the foot. So, you know, this team, you guys had won three in a row. You’re building some confidence. You’re still a fairly young group, but I I don’t know if you know, people don’t like using that as an excuse, I don’t think, at times, Cody, even in the third quarter, your defense didn’t give them up a bunch. When you look at offensively where you’re at and and I don’t know, you probably went over the film this morning. Looking back on it, what maybe do you feel like was the was the issue in the second half offensively? Uh we got some growing pains on offense. We had a lot of new faces that had to step into some different roles that um just at this this time in the season it’s a little bit more difficult I think. Uh biggest one you know OJ I thought he played a great game for his first time our receiver and uh when Curley went down he actually had to play another position. He’s been in the building for maybe a week still trying to learn uh learn learn the offense. Tyson Middleost, another guy who’s played a lot of special teams for us this year, came in and had to play a position he wasn’t used to playing. So, u we were shuffling guys around and it was an electric crowd and and breaking the huddle. we had just a couple miscues and uh just getting lined up in the right positions and and that happens and that’s why I think growing pains is probably the best way to put it because uh we’re going to learn a lot from that tape and and guys got a lot of good experience from that tape but uh we just need to be cleaner with the the finer details and and that’s what football’s about. Everyone talks about the cliche of football is a game of inches, but really it’s about alignment, assignment, and then execution. And and we did not play up to our standard offensively. And and the good news is we have a short week playing the same team. So, uh we get to wash the bad taste out of our mouth pretty quickly, but we really got to hone in on the details and the mental part of the game going into this week. Cody, um a lot of time you talk about, you know, mechanics and technique are such a major part of football really at any position, right? If you’re an offensive lineman and you make one, you know, mechanical error, that’s going to be the difference in a guy beating you or not. Um, the last game, I think you missed receivers high more than you had all season long. Is that what leads to that from a quarterback perspective when when you analyze yourself because we really haven’t seen that and and that’s not something that’s like part of your career. So, what happens when you when you’re suddenly throwing the ball a little higher than you normally do? That’s a great point. And uh to tell you the truth, it’s a Calgary sank and it’s been something if if you watch Calgary, the way their field is built, uh the drainage system makes it very difficult to throw the outside um the outside balls because of how they have a crown on the field. If you’re ever standing on the middle of the field, you’ll you’ll really be able to see it in Calgary. And so for me, it’s it’s a frustration thing because you I shouldn’t be missing those throws. There’s no excuse for them. And I’ve played in Calgary many of times, but I’ve found that my accuracy has plummeted when I play there. It’s just a field you don’t get to play too often and then all of a sudden you get on it and it’s just a little bit different. So, it’s funny you notice that, but for me it’s like I I need to help when we have guys, especially young guys at the receiving core and something I believe in is the quarterback’s got to be make everybody better. And I didn’t make people better in that game. I I I missed some easy throws like you talked about. I think I completed somewhere around 60% of my my passes, which is a very low number for me. And I got to find a way to keep the guys on the field, keep the momentum on our side, keep the offense on the field. Uh, and then that’s uh that’s just just me not playing my my best ball. I love your honesty, Cody, but honestly, I love that and I have been on the field and you’re right, it is like it doesn’t really look that way on TV, but if you get there and I’ve stood on there and I’ve done junior football games and obviously been there in the CFL and it is it’s it’s almost crowned a bit. So when you’re running and is it because you’re at the top and then like one of your foot ends up being below you and that leads to the ball going higher. No, I think it’s just because when you’re throwing if the angle that you’re throwing is actually down towards your receivers. Okay. And so when you’re used to throwing at a certain angle and you’re higher than your receivers, that that release point just ends up being a little bit higher. And so, um, I when I got on the phone, you know, in the middle of the game with Mc Timmy, I I just was explaining to him like, I just need to figure out my release point. Mechanical issues is a is a big problem. So, um, I just I struggled with it. And I’ll be quite honest with you, and that it hurt the team. It hurt the team because there were some easy completions that, uh, I don’t miss too often, and I did. But, uh, there’s there’s nothing you can do about it. Fortunately, that’s the last time we got to play there. um so we can have them on our home turf and hopefully things are a little bit different until come playoff time there’s an opportunity but uh to tell you the truth like it’s just I got to be better and I’m too old and uh too much experience to to use that as an excuse and I I just got to be better for the guys. No, that’s fair. The one guy Cody had now I was on holidays last week but I didn’t I think Stephen Dunar’s injury and he he’s been one of your best receivers and you know you get with a guy and he creates openings like he beats guys regularly on his routes. How much did you miss as a quarterback having you know arguably your most consistent receiver this year? Yeah, he’s going to Mr. Reliable for us. And uh I I knew it going into this week it was going to be a challenge, especially with what uh Calgary’s defense presented. Calgary’s defense, they do such a great job of getting pressure with three or four guys. And the the reason why I think there were some struggles in the second half is they came out in a defense that they haven’t shown all year, which they rushed three guys. They used number 12 Hicks, who’s one of their best pass rushers to spy me, and dropped basically nine guys into coverage. So windows are tighter. You got to trust trust guys being in the right spot at the right time a little bit more. But uh Dunar has been a guy that has like you said has created separation. He’s a guy that when he breaks the huddle, he helps guys get lined up. He’s a veteran presence. He’s played in a lot of big football games. Like just missing that on the sideline, missing that in the huddle. Um it is really detrimental to us and our offense. Obviously Curley takes over that little bit more leadership role as being more the veteran guy. We lose Curley in about the end of the third quarter basically for the entire fourth quarter. So, we were in in scramble and fight mode uh throughout that the rest of the game when Curley went down. But uh yeah, Dumbar, losing Dumbar was a huge loss for for our offense. And hopefully uh this experience and the the growing pains of playing without him for one week can can we can see some of the dividends uh and the things trending upwards for this week. Are you expecting Curley to play this Saturday? I believe so. Yeah, I think he was just dealing with some of the heat. Um, and uh just I I don’t speculate on injuries. I think just some of the heat got to him a little bit, but um we need him to play because uh he’s uh he’s one of our last veteran receivers. So I I believe uh on a short week, you never know what happens, but um as the quarterback sitting here now, I haven’t talked to him. I I believe he’ll play. Okay. Cody Fardo, quarterback for the Elks joins us. Cody, you’re still three and one in your last four. And you know, it’s huge opportunity. It’s going to be the biggest crowd of the season on Saturday at home and just, you know, the importance of your team to to just forget about Monday now and focus on Saturday. You know, you you obviously saw some progression in the month of August for your team. How do you get back to that right away? Yeah, I think one one game doesn’t define our season and you know, obviously everything might feel doom and gloom because of how big of a Labor Day game feels. And the unfortunate thing about not playing your baseball on Labor Day, there’s a lot of people that just tune in to that game or a lot of people that are watching CFL for the first time or just young young Els fans watching us for the first time and you know, we put a performance like that. It’s it’s never good for the organization. It’s never good for us players. So, we want to be able to to kind of help alleviate that by going out and putting on a good show against a really hopefully a really good crowd. Like you said, we’re we’re three and one in our last four games. And so I hope that the fans are still excited uh about the the transition of this team and and where we’re going and the trajectory of this team. Just we didn’t have it that night and against a very good team, but we have a chance to to go and kind of write all of our wrongs. Uh the biggest thing is they made it they made it difficult on us uh with their home game. And so I hope our fans can go out there and make it difficult on them uh with their operation and the way that they they do things by being loud and supportive of us. and we can use it because any little small advantage against a really top tier team like Calgary uh will only benefit us. Cody Fardo joins us here on Sports 1440 Orders Nation YouTube, Facebook X and Instagram. And Cody, as a leader of this team, uh you still have a young group, the importance of, you know, being patient knowing that there’s going to be mistakes, but then find that line where it’s like, okay, now you got a half season, we can’t make the mistakes. How do you balance that as a leader? Yeah, we uh you know the the hard thing is every time we go out in in professional sports, we’re judged on 18 games a year. So, we put in a lot of hours, we put in a lot of sweat, equity, uh but you’re judged on 18 18 days essentially over a course of seven months. So, anytime you don’t get the results you want, it just kind of magnifies things. So, we got to bring everybody back together. We got to calm kind of calm the nerves and calm the storm and let everybody know it’s not all doom and gloom. is professional sports and you happen to to lose football games, but we still have a great opportunity ahead of us. We still play Calgary two more times and so that tiebreaker could end up being a big thing down the road. Uh so so we it’s almost must win now territory for us in this game this week because if we can find a way to win this one and then beat Calgary later on in the year, then then we do win the tiebreaker. So it’s not season’s over. Let’s pack it up by any means. We still have everything we want right in front of us because we’ve clawed back and so just got to get the guys mentally focused this week. I think that’s the biggest challenge playing these short weeks is you’re not going to be able to get the physical reps. So you have to take the mental reps and you have to go above and beyond in your mental mental prep work whether that’s extra film work, extra walkthroughs on the field and find ways to kind of alleviate that physical work and elevate your mental work. with your experience in being in this you know whether it’s Saskatchewan and Winnipeg and you know Toronto Hamilton you know Ottawa Montreal they don’t do it all the time but when you play in a short week but you play the same team go to you mentioned that Calgary just did something on defense they hadn’t really done all season long so now you you know probably how to prepare for that how much in your in your history how much new things get put in in week two or because it’s short and it’s the same team again historically there isn’t a lot of new put in for the second game. Yeah, that’s a great question. Honestly, it’s um the short weeks are harder on offenses than it is on defenses. And both defenses in that game played extremely well. So, both offenses are going to be scrambling to try to find answers, but it’s so much harder to change things and change your identity on an offense than it is to make a few tweaks here on defense. Uh and that’s basically what they did. They they just switched the way that they were rushing the me the p uh rushing the passer and then how they were spiring guys playing a different coverage in the back end that we haven’t seen and they were able to fix that at halftime. We we can’t install, you know, 15 new plays at halftime. There’s just not enough time. So, uh you got to go in with your game plan and you just got to find ways to to get answers. And so with a short week like this, that’s the challenge. The challenge is making sure that we have our bases covered with what they ran in the last game, but also trying to play that chess game where you’re anticipating, okay, they showed a lot of this. Maybe they try to counter with this kind of defense. So, um, our our coaches, I know they got their work cut out for them and players got their work cut out for them and and that’s just how it goes on these short weeks. I think it just plays a little more advantageous to to defenses who can switch up a little bit of their scheme uh easier than offense. Cody, as always, love talking to you, man. Uh, best of luck on Saturday. It should be a great day. The weather’s going to be awesome and going to be the biggest crowd of the year. Should be a lot of fun. Thanks for your time. Yeah, we’re gonna put on a show for for our fans and uh we’re going to fight. That’s what this team does best. I appreciate you having me on the show. Cody Fardo, man, love talking to that guy. Love his accountability. He explains and says, “Hey, this is why, you know, I missed the three because honestly, I haven’t seen him overthrow a ball all year long like that.” And if you’ve ever been on the on the field in Calgary, it it is it’s very different. It’s it’s not nearly as flat just way the drainage goes that it’s and it might not seem like a lot, but that can be the difference. Sometimes you you’re thinking, “Oh, now I’m throwing it. It’s on a line, but the guy down below is, you know, 6 in lower just because the way the drainage is.” It is an odd field. But now, as he said, he goes, “That’s not an excuse. I played there enough. I should know.” But, you know, some there’s certain places where you just don’t feel comfortable. Doesn’t matter how much you play there. So, I get it. But, I always like the honesty. Doesn’t uh doesn’t ever sugar coat. It just says, “Yeah, this is why I struggled.” Outlines it. There we go. Fantastic stuff. Let’s get to the con man and a sports 1440 update brought to you by Legacy Heated Ances. No overtime charges, furnace repair, AC repair, and maintenance. Do it now. legacy heating.ca. This is a sports 1440 update. 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So uh happy to have them on board. Uh keep playing. Use the promo code gregor50 when you sign up. Make a $50 deposit and uh they’ll match it. So you get two for one. There you go. Playalberta.ca. could do that multiple times. Nice. Good luck. Good luck. Uh coming up uh this hour uh TR will uh join us. We got Dave McCarthy Strutddy later on in hour number three of the show. Uh Mark Spectre Hart Lavine because uh if you miss it some the the new CBA officially begins for the 2627 season. However, there will be some implications this upcoming year, which makes sense to me. The uh playoff salary cap, if we want to call it that, will be in place. The uh the LTIR changes. So, we’ll get all to that in depth with uh Hart Lavine coming up in a little bit of time. But uh first we welcome in uh Terry Ryan of course uh former NHLer stars now as Hitch in Shoresy the new philan hall of fame. TR how you doing? Not bad at all. I got to do this from my car today. My house is on wheels there. My daughter goes back to school tomorrow. So it’s chaotic to I guess that’s the case for most of Canada. But yeah. So welcome from Newfoundland. I’m in the car. Grade 10. She’s going into grade 10. Oh, high school. She all fired up. What’s uh what’s what’s the high what’s her high school called? Uh it’s O’Donald High School. Oddonnell Patriots. Uh it goes back it’s the right right back to the origins of Mount Pearl. It’s been there ever since. I would have gone there but I ended up out in Cornell for my high school in Tri Cities. But uh they’re on a high too. So they all they just won the all New Finlands provincial. So she’s going to the national championships in so in the soccer I mean and they’re all in they’re all going to they like 10 people on the team. So they’re pretty pumped. They’re going in like with a bit of a swagger for grade 10’s. It’s grade 10 to 12 here is high school and um but they are yeah the the Atlantics happen with team Newfanland but the nationals are like a club thing. So Mount Pearl gets to so it’s definitely it’s great soccer. I mean, there’s a bunch of them that are on the provincial team, but I like I like this cuz it’s, you know, it’s Mount Pearl. I I grew up wanting to go to tournaments with my buddies, not necessarily make the provincial team, even though that’s great. And I mean, it’s so such awesome exposure in a higher level um overall because you get the best players out there, but there’s a part of growing up. You’re 15 years old, you’re going into high school, you’re going to the nationals as uh you know, the Mount Pearl under 15 allstars, and you’re going with your friends. and I really enjoy that. So, uh, TR, it’s been a few weeks since I chatted with you, but want to get your thoughts because I know you’re a huge Jay’s guy and hey, the Jays are still in first place, but my goodness now. I don’t I don’t know. Yeah, well, you had been old enough to uh to remember it a little bit. You’d been a little bit younger, but like the 198 the 1987 collapse by the Jays down the stretch against the Detroit Tigers, still one of the worst. They went 0 and6 in the final week of the year. Now, back then, you only had uh you know, you won your division. That was it. Like, there was no wild card or anything else like that. The Jays, here we are. They they basically got a month left of the season. How concerned are you that uh that they could get caught here and find themselves plummeting down the AL standings? So, I do remember that happening, but Dad, I would have been 10 years old, but in retrospect, I’ve gone back and I’ve looked at it, you know, over the years, you keep hearing about it. You hear about the early 90s when they won and you hear about the late ‘ 80s where they blew it. But what’s concerning to me is that they’re blowing it every time in the same fashion. It’s the bullpen. It’s different if if if I mean I’m not saying the bats come alive when they need to every single time, but there are a lot of examples. last night would have been, you know, magnified and accentuated at all being that they got two home runs when they needed it. Three runs in the ninth and then to blow it again and again with with different I mean Hoffman taped a lot of the blame, but I I don’t know if any of them that statistically they’re they’re poison since the All-Star break and to me that and everything else is just coming up roses. So, I know we can talk about people with slumps and, you know, maybe Schneider should do this or that or why isn’t Schneider in after Barger’s in a slump. I I know all of that, but to me, it’s glaring. It’s glaring. It’s a bullpen. And I don’t know what you’re going to do. You your next question will probably be, well, what would you do about it? Um, and for me, I would probably put one of those starters just maybe burritos. Brios throw you meaning Lowour I think is sent to the bullpen in the bullpen. Yeah, but he’s more of a like I don’t think now I guess they could change it but I think they’re probably planning on using him as a long reliever right but like if your starters are giving you six innings I don’t think Lowour is coming in for the seventh but maybe he should at this point I don’t know. Well I like him I would have put B again it’s who am I to say but you know I follow it all and have an opinion. Um Lowour should I I’ I’d like one of the starters to be a lefty. I don’t know, may maybe it mixes it up. You’re in a weekend series, you know, the the other team, the opposing team has to maybe change some bats around and to do some thinking. Um, and I I think Bereos, if you only were to put him in in select innings and, you know, as some sort of reliever, he’s probably going to throw it a bit faster and he’s he’s got, you know, when he when he gets that up in the zone. I mean, I I don’t know. I’m speculating, but I’m I’m guessing it got to be better than what Hoffman is statistically consistently. We can say now that it’s not only is he blowing it recently, but I think he has the most home runs per inning or close to in the majors. You don’t want that out of a closer. Good lord, you don’t want that out of a closer. It’s one thing for hits, it’s another thing for walks, but for home runs and they’re teeing off on them. So, you know, I don’t know, maybe there’s mid relief or something. There’s got to be some sort of use. But for me, I don’t know. You do something different. I’d probably put Briio there, but what do I know? Yeah. Well, I don’t think he’s going to go there because probably because he’s never done it because I know there was there was talk about it for sure. So, it’ll be fascinating to see how they do. Now, what about like Bashette? Look at the season he’s having. Bashett’s having an unreal year and he might walk in free agency and no one’s really like this is a huge loss if he goes, man. Like, he is one of the best hitters in baseball. It’s amazing. We got all this talk about the Conor McDavid non-contract and I mean really I think a lot of that is just because the time of year there’s nothing happening. So everyone’s talking about it. But imagine if this was like June or May or even like let’s say close to the end of the season there would be more talk like not many people are talking about it. You got one of the best players in baseball. I know last year was an off year but when this guy is healthy this guy leads the league in hits. Doesn’t come close to it. He leads the league in hits consistently. So, I don’t I think it’s major. I think it’s as big as Vlad. If you take the the the longevity of the possibility of him playing and where he plays, I think it’s just as big. Look at Vlad’s numbers. Now, look at Bettz. I mean, I know there’s um, you know, maybe a slight, you know, given his father and, you know, the link to the team and everything, but to me, I don’t want to lose Bob Bashett and I’m starting to I don’t know, man. Walking on eggshells talking about it like that’s you you want to me that’s the most consistent again when he’s not hurt last year being an outlier. And I’d want I mean bat on the ball, what he gives you, the energy, the different situations, the consistency. Yeah. I mean, as a Jays fan, I’m a I’m I’m not only concerned, I’m a little bit alarmed at this point. Yeah. Well, it is. Look at his numbers, man. Like, it’s going to be hard to replace him. He’s probably going to get 100 RBI. He’s leading the MLB in doubles. He’s right up there. It leads the MLB in hits. Like, he’s been really solid for the Jays. And it’s probably going to cost you 10-year deal, minimum 300 mil, I would think, is what it’s going to cost. Yeah. I mean, well, just look at the comparables, right? Look at the comparables. Um, forget there was a contract just a couple of years ago that was would have been similar. Whoever it was escaping my mind, I think it was 34 million, you know, and they’re wondering about 30. I mean, I don’t know. I know we’re talking big numbers, but with no cap, I mean, what would you expect him to demand? I mean, you’re talking about again last year being an outlier and he was injured and everybody knows that. Now, look at the rest of the numbers. You know, leading the league in hits consistently to me is worth at least that. So, I mean, I don’t know what they’re going to do. They’re going to have two huge contracts on the team if they sign him, but that’s just it. You fill in the gap. To me, I I do I do everything I can not to lose that guy. Yeah. Well, the other option here that something to watch for because tonight he is uh he’s going to pitch out of the bullpen, the youngster, uh Trey Yesvage, who they’re very high on. Um obviously there’s a chance maybe that that he could he could be ready to to pitch out of the bullpen uh come playoff time. I don’t think they’re going to do it right away, but he is he’s a fascinating one to watch because that guy’s got a dynamite arm and he’s just worked his way up. He’s a youngster, but every now and then there’s always a surprise. Uh maybe that could be a guy that just pitches you one or two really good innings uh in the in the playoffs. And that’s all you need from guys, right? Like they’re they’re going to need obviously their key guys to, you know, Hoffman’s got to get back to to locating his pitches better. There’s no doubt about it. I don’t know. Brandon Little’s just maybe need some time. I’m I’m not sure, but he’s he’s just he’s pitching way too high in the zone. It’s just too easy to hit him right now as a lefty. So, uh we’ll see where it goes. Um also, uh what are your thoughts on the NHL? And while the the the new CBA officially is supposed to start in September of 26, that actually for this coming year, we’re going to see some of the new CBA rules like the salary cap in the playoffs, the the LTIR in the regular season. Uh, basically gone are going to be the days of being able to have a trade where, okay, I trade, you know, Terry Ryan to to and I’m in Montreal and I trade him to Calgary and they take, you know, 50% and then we trade them to another team and they take 25%. There’s no more of the double retention. So, all those new CBA rules are coming in this year even though the CBA doesn’t officially begin until the following year. That surprises me. Here’s the one I want to know about cuz I don’t know how it happened and I don’t know how it slipped through my cracks here. But the players not having to do fitness testing is that one in this year. I don’t know how. I don’t know who came up with that, how they passed it by. Why they would even think of doing it, but I w I wish we didn’t have to do that. I mean, how did that even come about? Maybe I’ll ask Studdy what’s he what he thinks of that. But basically TR it’s I think the players so said what the hell are we doing um you know these f guys are in great shape um you come in and and some of them like oh what’s the test where you on the bike and then they drop the weight on it the wind gate yeah the windgate test like guys like what the hell does this have to do with hockey anyway so I I think it came down to they’re like this testing isn’t necessarily um what’s needed now you can do some on ice conditioning to see where guys are at my understanding is But it’s just not going to be the off ice uh in-depth test. I would assume though they’re still going to do like blood pressure and eye tests and everything. It’s just not going to be those physical ones. It’s still it’s still surprising to me. Now, I’m not saying you need that. You don’t absolutely need that as motivation. I mean, it’s the NHL. It’s a contract. It’s fame. It’s it’s so much. It’s playing for that city. wearing the emblem. You know, it’s a lot that goes into it for your friends, your family, yourself, your your grade 2 teacher who said you couldn’t do it. There’s so many reasons to be motivated. I just think that’s a big one. Like, you know, if I, for example, if I I just for me as a and I worked hard, man, but if I knew I didn’t have to do the bench press, I don’t know that I’m because or or biceps or, you know, when do you use those? I I I don’t know. There’d be there’d be things I’d be maybe that’s a good thing. Maybe, you know, you do need to concentrate or or you should maybe concentrate on just things that might be specific to you, but I know I know that I don’t know what a percentage. I really don’t. Whether it’s 10 to 20%, maybe it’s less, maybe it’s more, but certain guys are going to definitely take that shortcut. And maybe it’s good. Maybe it’s good because yes, I remember just worrying so much and like the night before like just running the night before, you know, the week before to the point of like puking and I remember going like and you know doing certain things for those tests like who we did the um oh god V2 max sometimes we did it on the treadmill sometimes on the bike. The wind gate for me was always on the bike and you know certain our bicep curl really you know my biceps when am I going to use those but you know in hockey do I do so many curls that that’s going to make a difference but I mean I don’t know it’s all changed to me I if I was a player I I would be thrilled now of course you should come to camp in shape anyway I’m just saying yeah no 100% you should Jason Gregor Terry Ron Sports 1440 Dave McCarthy will join us next Gregor show presented I play Alberta.ca. The biggest game of the season, your Edmonton Elks Labor Day rematch with the Calgary Stampeders on Saturday, September 6th. 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From Puck Drop to Kickoff, it’s the Jason Greger Show on Sports 1440, presented by playalberta.ca, Alberta’s only regulated online gambling website. Nice. Welcome back, Jason Greger. Terry Ryan with you on sports 1440. Sports440.ca say have to say I uh quite like this quote. Uh Bill Bichic says, “There’s a drawer where you should put all your distractions and outside interests until after you’ve reached your goal.” Now, that was a tough one, man. There’s a lot of people that I think were just waiting to see Bellichc fail like they’re they’re in taking enjoyment in seeing him fail because that was that was a rough one for UNC. But has UNCC ever really been like when was the last time they were really competitive in football? Declan Krueger, how many like ever? Never. Never. So like what were people expecting? Like I know it’s Bill Bichc, but my god is not a miracle worker. Like you still need players. So, um, but it is, you know, I I know they paid him big money and, you know, they’re think, “Hey, we get the coach,” but you can’t just recruit a master class in one year. It’s not going to work that way. So, um, I I don’t think it’ll uh ever get there. Coach is is now a coach can make players better for sure, but ultimately, uh, you’re only as good as your players. Every coach has ever told me that. And you get good players. Now, the one thing Belichc was great at in New England, the reason they were great for two decades was he removed emotion from his decisions with players. He would get rid of, you know, star players who were whose best, you know, due date was passed. He used to do it right without a problem. And and I think that was maybe one of his greatest attributes. Obviously, he was a good coach and everything like that, but he had some pretty good players, which helps, right? and he he he was kind of great at keeping guys a little bit on their toes. But in UNCC, yeah, that was a tough one. Now, did the did not one year when the Patriots won, did they not absolutely get demolished like 31-3 or 31 nothing in their home opener and then I think they won 14 in a row. Is my memory off on that, Connor Hley? But did they not do that and then go on route and win a championship in like 2001 or 2003? Was it the Bills game? Because I remember when they let lawyer Malloy go safety and he went to Buffalo. Yes, Lawyer Malloy. It was the Malloy game. They stomped them and everyone’s like, “Oh, yeah.” And then they I think they won like 14 in a row after that. And then they went on to win the the championship. That would have been in 2003, I think. Yeah. Then there was the was it the Dolphins game when they just threw the whole uh Wildcat formation at them in week one? Oh god. Like Tony Sorano or something. Yeah, I might have. I can’t remember that one, but I just remember. So, no, UNCC isn’t going to bounce back. Let’s let’s not. But it I did find it interesting. There’s people just like, “Wait, I want to see Bill Bich fail.” Now, it is social media and sadly there’s negativity reigns more than positivity there. If uh if you want Although, if you want to find the positivity, you just got to dig for it. It’s there. But does seem to be some people enjoy more of the the negativity. We’ll see. Now, let’s uh let’s go in the room. brought to you by Action Electrical, where uh you can take action on your savings. The most diversified electrical contractor in Alberta with project service testing and solar divisions uh their commercial solar division as well as residential solar up to a 40k 10ear interest free loan available right now from the government of Canada. Check it out at actionlectrical.net as Dave McCarthy from Sirius XM joins myself uh Terry Ryan. Davey, how you doing? Hey boys. What’s going on? Oh, I’m good. Uh, you know, do you two? Uh, Ti, what what’s on your hat? This is uh Tales with Tiara, my podcast, my man. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Which Dave is which Dave is coming on tomorrow. Oh, am I? We’ll talk. We’ll talk. Have my people call your people. You got it. Nothing like that. Putting you on the spot, Dave. Can’t back out now. Guess I can’t back out now. Never back out for this guy over here. I like it. Um, David, give me your thoughts because I know I I think we talked about in the summertime about I was I was curious how many of these rules we might the new CBA we might see implemented to the new season and now it’s quite a bit. Like I like it it makes sense for sure the salary cap in the playoffs. Like there was no reason to wait another year for that one. Um, what do you make though of the double retention? Is it simply because some teams felt it was too much of an advantage to get a player 25%. Is is that just a simple way to look at? Yeah, I mean it it it was something that certainly helped to facilitate movement, but when you think about double retention, you know, you can get a $10 million guy, um if you know, one team retains half and then another team retains half at like two and a half million um that kind of works in countervention with the spirit of the salary cap to an extent. So, ah, that doesn’t surprise me at all really. And it it makes complete sense that they are implementing the salary cap compliance rule for the playoffs beginning this season. Otherwise, as we talked about, like I think teams would have been going nuts um on a loophole that they know would be closing. But if you’ve already agreed to the rule for the next iteration of the CBA, which begins the year after this season, why not just implement the rule now? Otherwise, it’s like you’re operating as if it’s the purge, right? Knowing what’s legal today won’t be legal next year. It makes no sense. if you’ve agreed to it, there’s no reason not to implement it um immediately because it doesn’t affect any team’s planning during this off season. It just affects how they might approach injuries in season this year, which at this point they are unaware of because said injuries have yet to occur. So, it doesn’t it doesn’t affect anybody’s planning. It makes complete sense to implement I think honestly both of those rules. Um when you look are you surprised because he was in Toronto. Are you surprised Sam Sonoff hasn’t signed anywhere yet? Um, a little bit a little bit I I think it’s it’s probably a situation where uh Ilia asking for too many smiles and too much monies um at this point. um to to quote him to an extent um like I think at this point in his career teams look at him as a guy who is a backup goalie and I don’t know if he sees himself as that guy yet. Um and I think that’s where the breakdown in terms of what he’s worth is occurring. Um I don’t see him as a 50game guy. I don’t um I I think he’s had opportunity for that time and again and hasn’t delivered on that. Do I think he can be a guy that plays 25 to 35 games? Yes. Um but I think you have to have a goalie that you think is better than him. And if you’re going to employ him in such a a scenario, he has to be willing to be paid commensurate where it makes sense for a goalie playing that number of games. And I don’t think he he he has come to that realization yet. So um look, he he’s a guy that is in Toronto was ultra sensitive and um I I like the guy very much, don’t get me wrong. Uh, I I really enjoy talking to the guy. Um, he’s he seems like a really good dude to me based on what I I know of him from speaking with him in the room. I don’t have a relationship with him beyond that. um he he seemed well-liked in the room, but I think that’s what the issue is right now is that he hasn’t come to the realization that that other teams um feel that if they want to sign him, the role in which they intend to use him. Dave, you had the privilege of interviewing Tyson Barry, I think maybe the first interview since he in announced his retirement. Anything stand out in that interview for you? I haven’t listened to it yet. Um, well, I I can I can send you the full interview after we get off if you like. I’ve got it in I’ve seen it on your Twitter. I got it queued up, my man. Well, there you go, buddy. Um, well, I’ll put it this way. It is no surprise that this guy has been in like 10 people’s wedding parties. Like, I think he leads the league in wedding parties attending. Okay, this man is a This guy’s a butician from start to finish. Now, like I knew him a little bit from his his brief year in Toronto in like 1920. This was quite some time ago. Um, but like I didn’t realize quite how fun of a dude this guy is. When we were when we were talking about his beer, Chile ones, I just asked him, you know, what’s sort of the story behind the beer? I said, it’s a a 3% ABV, so it’s pretty light. He’s like, well, I I call it a parenting beer. you know, is just not not so much that that I lose my wits, but just enough to make the job a little bit easier. It’s like this this guy is this guy is really funny. Um, and and you know, kind of what I was talking about with Ilia Samson there, often times the league makes the decision for you. When I asked him why now, why has he decided to retire? Well, it was a decision in tandem with the 32 NHL teams, which was to say that no one was offering him what he was willing to play for. So, I guess we call it a career. Now, Tyson’s doing quite nicely, and he’s not a guy that needs to grind away for his next postplay career opportunity. So, everyone’s situation is different, but he can afford to shut her down. And I I give the guy a lot of credit uh making that decision. And as I asked him, are you at peace with it? And he said, yeah, I think I am. I think I am. He said, “I I really enjoyed the the life and being a part of the NHL for as long as I was and now I’m looking forward to something else.” So, um, you know, he just and just the fact that he’s self-deprecating that that’s why I think everybody loves this guy. How can you not like someone who is self-deprecating? To me, people who just are so full of themselves become exhausting very quickly. And and this guy is out there putting on his Instagram story all of the worst plays that he ever made. Like there was one in Edmonton where he he he was being hounded by a guy and then he like turned and swung a pass to Dry Cidle when he had two guys on top of him and Dry Cidle blows a wheel and they go back and score the other way and he goes, “Never hesitated to pass off a problem to somebody else in my career.” And it’s like this guy’s just really funny. So, yeah, I think he’s going to do well after his his playing career. I can tell why he was one of those universally revered uh teammates. And um I I’ll tell you what, he is going, as as he said, straight into the NHL’s hall of good. And there’s a lot to be said for that because it’s it’s one thing to be elite in the league. It’s also very difficult to be good in the league for as long as he was. And he was very good. So, he was I’ll put it this way, Terry. Probably one of the the favorite guys I’ve ever interviewed because I just I wasn’t expecting it to be quite that entertaining and it was. You know, it’s a slow news day when you’ve got to answer the next question I have. What did you think of the Dennis Hillbe contract? [Laughter] You’re not wrong, Terry. Slow news day. Um, tidy piece of business by Brad Trey Living. The fact that he got him on a three-year deal. um at uh about as much money as it costs to have me appear on your show once a week. Um and and two of the three years on a two-way deal. Um really really smart. So, you know, now it gives the Leafs one flexibility in terms of their waiver situation. Um doesn’t eat into their cap. um gives them a reliable number three guy. Like we saw him come up and play some legitimate minutes for the Leafs last year and and he was he was quite effective and and he’s not a kid right anymore. So he’s now at the point where this is where you’d expect him to either establish himself or not. He’s doing that on essentially for free. And um then uh not this coming season, not the year after, but two years from now, entering the final year of his deal, then it’s uh a decision point for the Leafs where he’ll he’ll face waivers as the contract switches to one way. And at that point, you know, you you can’t you you can’t fault him for being on waivers because you either are happy to keep him or you’re happy to expose him to waiverss and then you find another guy who’s capable of playing the uh the third the third goalending role. So pretty tidy piece of business by Brad Trail. Yeah, it’s it’s an interesting one where, you know, it’s a young guy who got some stability. Hey, it’s still, you know, basically just under 900 grand a year for a for a three-year deal. And you know what, we’ll see. But it is kind of interesting to see. I I can’t recall the last time like a minor league goalie got a three-year deal out of his entry level deal, right? Like usually you get a three-year deal and then they might sign for two, but not three. So good for them and, you know, we’ll see. Good for him. Maybe he’ll have the opportunity to uh to move up. Dave McCarthy joins us. Uh Dave, looking at at the East now as we are a week away from uh rookie uh tournaments and camps and everything like that that start next week, is is there a team that you’re most intrigued to see how they’ll be, whether it’s good or bad, and maybe you just don’t know, like which team are you most uncertain about in the East? Um uncertain about that. Uh, that is interesting. Um, look, I I’ll put it this way in the Atlantic division. Like, I’m not really too uncertain about too many teams. I expect Toronto, Tampa Bay, Florida, Ottawa, and Montreal to be pretty good. And I don’t expect much from Detroit, Buffalo, and Boston. Buffalo, despite the fact that Owen Power told me a week and a half ago, Terry, when when I bumped into you, D, we got to make the playoffs, man. like we’re getting sick and tired of it. It’s all well and good to say, but I just I just don’t see their team being able to um accomplish that goal with the teams ahead of them in the Atlantic Division. Columbus would be the team for me because I think they surprised everybody last year um with a run that they went on to get themselves within a stones throw of the playoffs. Um they they went out and they brought in some more veteran presence this year. A guy like Charlie Coyle who interestingly has never missed the playoffs in his NHL career. Never. Um and so that’ll help to to to insulate some of their younger players, but a lot of their younger players, guys like Kent Johnson, Dmitri Veronov, um Adam Fantelli had really good years last year. And you would hope then that they continue to grow. They’re still young enough where you’d expect them to continue to improve. Um and and and I talked to Erica Branson in the summertime a few weeks ago and he said like as good as we were, there was a stretch in March where we kind of shot ourselves in the foot and we lost a bunch of games in a row and and sort of we kind of let ourselves down. So they felt they deserved better even though I think everyone quite honestly around town thought they were as impressive as as anyone could have expected given what they went through as an organization last off season. Um there’s something to build on there and I think they’re ready to take a step forward. the fact last year at this time few months it would have been like June no I guess it would have been yeah almost this time last year I had Don Wadell on my show just after he had taken over in Columbus and I asked him what have you determined and he took over in May last year and he he said well I determined that losing was acceptable in this organization and we can no longer stand for that so they’ve they’ve instilled something there um that has I think um taken root and they were much more focused on on details um and and the way in which they approached each day and it paid off last year. So um I I look at them in a division that I don’t expect to be particularly good for them to have an opportunity to um take a step and try to secure a playoff spot. Davey, always good to catch up with you, buddy. Have yourself a great day and uh we look forward to your guest appearance with TR tomorrow. 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This This is Sports 1440, presented by playalberta.ca, Alberta’s only regulated online gambling website. 3:47. Welcome back, Sports 1440. Sports 1440.ca, YouTube, Facebook, X, and Instagram. Wherever you listen, wherever you watch. Thanks very much. here alongside Terry Fine. 83341440. 833 41440. Get the uh text in. Hey guys, I’m curious. Does Terry play fantasy football? No. Um Why are you laughing? I don’t know enough about it’s it’s like going to, you know, the the racetrack and they’re going, “Yeah, you know, well, he runs the horse runs better on grass than dirt and then there’s the jockey and this one’s a trotder and I I I don’t know enough about it.” So, I do like I’ll go on one of the websites and take in all the information I can that day from all the best people from your your podcast or your show uh to ESPN, TSN, Sportsnet, all of it. and I will gather information and I will bet accordingly. But to to be in pools, it requires a level of knowledge that I don’t have time to to figure out. There’s so much analytics to it. But I’ll take a consensus and if eight out of 10 think this thing and you know and then I’ll get to know the odd critic and I’ll see where my picks align. And so I do pay attention. I bet on football, but not in a not in a fantasy sense. Now, uh, it was my first day back. I’m and I’m pleasantly surprised that it took this long to get to this question, but that’s okay. 833411440. Hey, Gregor, I know you’ve said all summer you’re not concerned about the McDavid signing a contract. Are you concerned now that he hasn’t signed one from Dan? I am not, Dan. Um, I always felt he wasn’t going to sign until September anyway, and it’s a September 2nd right now. I don’t think there’s a there is a major rush. I I will admit that if training camp begins and he hasn’t signed, so that’s what 18th I think is their first on ice day. I’d be a little surprised. Admittedly, I’ I’d be surprised for a variety of reasons. Um now Connor, you know, you’d ask him about it once in camp. I’m not going to ask him every day, like what’s the point? But, you know, he’d probably address it once and he’s what’s he going to say? Well, I’m taking my time. Like I I won’t to me it’s not a concern in until McDavid leaves Emonton. Like I’ll still say this because he’s under contract for this coming year. I would be floored if Conor McDavid’s not an Eton order next year. I’d be floored. I just the orders just went to back-to back Stanley Cups. When I hear people talk about, well, you know, he wants to win. Where else is he going to go? Florida. What other team will guarantee him a better chance to win right now than the Edmonton Oilers? Who can you name? Which team without you say, “Oh, we’re going to throw in McDavid.” Now, keep in mind that if you put in McDavid, you got to take out $16 million of that of that team. Right now, the Oders have him at 12.5. So, whatever his new deal, 1617, they have a smaller amount plus the salary cap’s going up to uh to 104 next year. So, you could argue that that’s where it is. But, you know, there’s no other team that’s just who are they going to get rid of? And if they’re going to and you can’t just say, well, they’re going to get rid of their dead weight contracts. Like, that’s utopia kind of fairy tale story. So, like outside of Colorado because they’ve got McKinnon and they’ve got Macar. I like because if you look at a dryidle Bard combination, wherever you stand on Bard, whatever, Bard’s a really good defense. Okay, he’s not the best defensive, but he’s a really good defenseman. Leon Dryidle’s top five player in the world. Some would argue top three. So you got McKinnon and Coutroof are probably the only two forwards in a similar conversation as him. So who has a combo where you can say, “Oh yeah, he’s going to go there and it’s going to work. That’s going to be better.” So that’s why I don’t see now, do I think it’ll be a long-term deal? No. Now keep in mind for years I’ve been on this show saying 5 years should be the max term contract after the age of 28. So, if McDavid only signs for four, I’m okay with it and I understand it for both sides. It it wouldn’t surprise me at all. But, you know, when I look at it, TR, do you see a team that you say, “Oh, well, yeah, clearly a better chance to win than Edmonton. Do you see one TR?” Didn’t hear anything you said. My I’m I’m in the car and my phone went out for a second, but explain. I just heard you say, do you see one tier? Yeah. Do you see a team? Cuz when people talk about, oh, McDavid leaving, like where is he going to go that’s a clear better option to win? Well, first of all, this is what I’ve been saying all along. They’ve been in the finals twice and when he’s not, you know, it’s not a basketball. I mean, he’s the most important player in hockey, but it’s not like they’ve got a terrible team without him. They generally win, you know, still when he when he’s out and and they rely on more than just McDavid. It’s a team sport, yada yada yada. But what I’m saying is that they’ve got enough depth with him obviously two years in a row to make the final. Now, where else do you think you’re going that So, from a winning perspective and you you’re surrounded by players that you you you know, it’s taken this long and all the blood and sweat and tears that have gone into that and and all of the most of that nucleus has done it together with you and you’ve been successful enough to get within a game twice, two games and then one game when you know there’s a lot of bounces involved and luck and everything else and people got to remain u um healthy. you know, he got a great training staff, everything by all accounts. Um, the Oilers are thrilled with, you know, their their medical staff and I never heard them say anything bad about that. And and and and their coaches and so there’s just so much that goes into it. If you’re generally worried about winning, I would think that the team has a shown you enough and b looking at what’s around you and you’re talking to all these guys, they’re going to be there. Unless you’ve got an alarmist reason to think that they’re not going to for some reason. Guys who are signed demand a trade. Guys who aren’t not going to sign. And I just don’t see that. I see a team that’s been through a lot and I don’t know Conor McDavid. I met the guy. But you know what would I think goes through his head. But what I would think just as a logical human hockey player, teammate or all the things I just mentioned and and if it’s getting back there and I’m like you. I said I didn’t think it was going to happen till September anyway. and um you know and we’re at September 2nd again if I’m him the the the quickest route to winning possibly winning to me is right in my own dressing room otherwise I’m taking another chance I’m changing a dynamic of a team what if you go there and you don’t even a lot is to go right I mean the Leafs lost to the same team right and they they got so much crap given to them they lost to the same team whatever round it is they lost to the same team you could go change the dynamic of another team not have a bounce go And now all of a sudden, what was that all about for me? I think that guy um and he loves Edmonton by all accounts, man. All accounts. Not just his words. Look at his actions and the of him and his family and his teammates around the city. So, I don’t see anything pointing to him leaving, at least in terms of wins and losses. I mean, something else I’m not qualified to speak about. Yeah. No, I I just I don’t I understand the Yanks from an Oders fan. I get it naturally. Like, well, there’s until he’s signed, there’s a chance he can leave. So, I get it. That that that’s fair. But, do I believe he’s going to leave? I do not. So, I guess there’s a chance. It’s like Dumb and Dumber. So, you’re telling me there’s a chance? Yes, there is a chance. Until he’s signed that he theoretically could leave. I just think it’s it’s incredibly low and ultimately I think I’ll get it done. And I still believe knowing McDavid and and here’s the truth Terry. So now I haven’t spoke to anybody before I went on holidays but when I spoke to people in the organization they said you know in September like they had yet to have a real serious conversation. Now some would say why haven’t you done that? It’s Conor McDavid because Conor McDavid had his brother’s wedding. He had Leon Dile’s wedding. He had a terrible loss. They gave him some time. Like this is not a really hard difficult negotiation. If McDavid wants to get the league max at 19 and a half, the owners will give it to him because they want to keep they don’t want to lose him. But that’s going to lower his chance to win. Doesn’t make any sense. So I get why he doesn’t do it. But you know, and I I get why he doesn’t do a long-term deal. Well, fans will want a long-term deal. If I’m Conor McD, I’m not signing a long-term deal because the only way it works is if I sign it for 19.5 to start. So that hurts me for the next few years because just really too high. And if I if I don’t sign a long-term deal and four-year deal now, I can still keep my cap percentage probably around 16% of the cap, give or take. And then in four years, when the cap’s up to who knows, 130, 128, whatever the million it’s at, then you can resign and and while your cap hit goes up, his percentage of cap probably won’t change very much. So if and it forces the team to stay competitive and make smart moves. So, that’s why I think it works for all sides. Um, heck, I wouldn’t like I wouldn’t be shocked if it was only a two or three year deal even to be honest. But, I I’d be surprised at this point that it’s any longer than four just because, but um I’ll say it and I’ll reiterate it. I don’t think fans have anything to worry about that he’s not going to be a player next season. Now, how long is this contract going to be? I I can’t say. And anybody who is is is making maybe at best an educated guess and at worst a blatant lie. And sadly, you’ve seen a lot of that, or at least I have in the last few weeks about some people just making up stuff around McDavid because they’ve never yet had any real legit. And once they have a legit conversation, Terry, I bet you it’s done in 24 hours. Totally. And it look, I think the same. And the other thing I kept thinking is like these guys, not only have they been to the final, but all the expectations and everything that goes along with it. And both years or at least the the first year they started horrendously. Remember like people are starting to do the percentages in December and are they even going to make the playoffs? So they’ve been through so many ups and downs for the longest that you could possibly do it without winning in the last couple years. Do you think he wanted to hear this in July? Like I to me if it’s me I completely tune out. I mean, you can only take so much of of thinking about hockey and contracts and pucks and nets and I you know, and so I mean, I I wouldn’t really expect it. It I I I know you could say that other people can work on that, but it’s you you still know that it’s happening. You maybe the other side of it is just, you know, you want a little bit of a of a break from all the the consistent chaos. Uh, that’s all good, of course, but there’s a time to take a break. And I just figured for me like the last thing I’d be thinking about in the summertime if I’m any of the Oilers is contract. You should give it to me now. Fine. We’re back. I’m back. Skates on. Okay, now let’s do it. But other other than that, I I think it would be almost just stressful. Unnecessarily stressful. Jason Greger, Terry Ron with you. Sports1440, sports1440.ca. Let’s get to the con man and a sports 1440 update brought to you by Fountain Tire. Are you ready to swap your tires for the fall? Fountain Tire makes it easy and saves you cash. Get $50 off tire storage with the purchase of a new set of tires in September. No more stacking tires in your garage. Let them handle it. See select locations for details. Fountain Tire. This is a sports 1440 update. also have a great determinance with national offensive lineman Carter O’Donnell who spent the last 5 years in the NFL with the Colts and the Cardinals. Edmonton acquired O’Donnell back in 2022, turning the first overall selection in the draft for the lineman’s rights and the fourth overall pick. Calgary claims made a change to Ryan Huska staff today. Dave Lowry rejoined the team as an assistant coach with Brad Larson departing from the organization for personal reasons. And in the NFL, Gabe Davis has signed with the Buffalo Bills and will initially start on the practice roster as he recovers from a torn meniscus. Davis returns to the Bills after spending last season with the Jags appearing in just 10 games. Major League Baseball, we’re about 40 minutes away from first pitch. The Reds up against the Jays once again out in Cincinnati. They also the Dodgers taking on the Pirates. Nationals up against the Marlins. Angels Royals. Cubbies host the Braves. Athletics in St. Louis. Astros taking on the Yankees and the Orioles in San Diego in the WNBA. Two games this evening. Valkyries host the Liberty at 8:00. And you’ve also got the Fever and Mercury meeting in Phoenix. Coming up in hour three of the Jason Greger show. will ask five questions and be joined by former NHLer Jason Strudwick. I’m Connor Hi. This has been a sports 1440 update. 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Terry Ryan as always along for the uh afternoon as well. YouTube, Facebook, X, and Instagram. Thanks for listening. Thanks for uh watching the show. We got uh Jason Strudwick coming up uh joining us this hour. We got Spec also Hart Lavine because the NHL has uh fasttracked some of the the new CBA for this upcoming season. salary cap in the playoffs. You will have no more double retention on trades. Well, you can, but it’s got to be so far apart that I don’t see you’d have to basically do it in January and then you could trade the player again. It’s 75 days, is it not Connor Hley? It’s pretty long time between uh between having a player that you acquire that then you could trade to someone else and essentially have a double retention. So that is a tad odd for sure, but I guess they feel like it’s too much an advantage. Too much an advantage to have a player at only 25% of his uh salary. You got a lot of texts flying in. 83341440 83341440. Uh we’ll get to the uh oil report brought to you by Volvo Cars Edmonton. The discover day sales events on continuing right now. You can lease a 2025 XC60 from 0.49% and save an additional 5 grand. Great vehicles, better service. Volvo cars.com and uh about the orders cuz hey, I knew once you bring McDavid up, people going to get fired up and I understand it, right? Hey, Gregor, I totally agree. Connor says he doesn’t want to be a distraction. So it makes sense like Leon the the year before to sign before camp. Not going anywhere. Welcome back from CL80. Hey Gregor, which team would give him a better chance to win this year? Only Florida, but when he’s a free agent 26, there’s maybe a few others. Hack. Well, hacks off. Florida wouldn’t give him a better chance. How can he go there, right? Like look at this. Even next year. So even if you look at it next year, who are the teams next year that you think automatically going to give him a better chance? You can’t just say teams without listing them. You need to list them. Who is it? I said probably Colorado. Who else? Because keep in mind, if he comes in at 17 million, you got to ship some money out because there’s a lot of It’s not like there’s a boatload of teams that have just infinite cap space. Now, the luck is for every team, including the Edmonton orders. Salary cap this year is 95.5. Next year it’s 104. You know, $8.5 million increase in the cap. That’s huge. Even if McDavid, let’s say he signs at 17, he’s still only taking 4.5 of that just himself. So, it’s uh it’s going to be a good problem for uh for a lot of teams because and and really if you’re a player, like think about it. just I think analysts, fans, everybody covering the NHL is going to have to readjust on what you view a certain player at because all of a sudden guys who used to be $2 million players are going to be three and a half million dollar players or $3 million players, right? It’s you, oh, this guy’s making this. Well, anybody on a long-term deal, that’s why I think the trend for every contract is is actually going to be fine. I don’t uh I don’t see it being uh much of an issue at all. Hey, Gregs, I read your uh 10 points of the storylines that you’re interested in at Odor’s Nation today. Very good. You really got me thinking about Matt Seavoy and Ike Howard and what are realistic expectations from Daniel. Well, Daniel, you know what? I think rookies all the time. You look, we we started the show talking a little bit of fantasy football and like everyone’s, “Oh my god, this going to be the best running rookie running back class of all time.” Maybe. But I do find that rookies in any sport get a lot of excitement because it’s new and and most it’s funny for for all the negativity that reigns. It’s for unknowns. Most people lean to more. It’s like, oh, I think like Matt Seavoy, he could score 50 points. Ike Howard, he’s going to score 25 goals. And I’m like, maybe. But do you know how hard it is? Do you know how how many NHL rookies in the last three years scored 25 goals when they didn’t get significant power play time? How about none? Like it’s hard, man. It’s hard to score 20 goals. And and if you even look at just last year’s class, like how many guys scored 20 goals even strength amongst rookies? Three in the last few years. And Tanner Jano was one of them. Came out of nowhere when he had 24 goals for Nashville TR. He was starting the season as a fourth lineer. an unreal year, right? Michael Bunting’s another guy in in recent memory who’s done it. Like it is really hard. And so I don’t think Ike Howard or Matt Seavoy are going to get any significant PP1 time. They might get on the second unit power play. I would assume they are if they’re here, right, that they would be there. It is just like it’s hard when you look at the minutes and and here’s and that’s the one that’s key. Do you know how many rookies who scored 20 goals and didn’t play 15 minutes of ice time? One in the last five years. You know which Emo? Uh, no. He played less than 15, right? So, do you know actually how many Oiler forwards played more than 15 minutes a game last year? Just like veterans, anybody. How many forwards do you think average 15 minutes a night on the Oders last year? Six. Four. Wow. Heyman Nan Hopkins dry settle McDavid. That’s it. So anybody out there who’s going to have like you’re going to make your predictions on what the rookies are just keep in mind. Player a is he going to get 15 minutes of ice time? Really hard right like Ike Howard virtually impossible I think unless sudden like because look at I I mentioned Pod Coulson. Pod Coulson played a lot of minutes with Leon Dryetta last year. He didn’t even average 15 minutes and he’s on the penalty kill. So I I think I just like to have realistic expectations. So I think if if Matt Seavoy could get 30 points, that would be outstanding because I see him probably in a penalty kill role playing on your third. If you get close to 30, that’s unreal, right? That would be unreal. And and Ike Howard, who I don’t see on the penalty kill, and I’m not I’m less sure of him to be an NHL player this year. And that’s not a knock on him. It’s because the NHL is damn hard. It’s the best league in the world and you’re on a Stanley Cup legitimate Stanley Cup contender. You’re not entering in the Chicago Blackhawks or the San Jose Sharks where they’re like, “Oh my god, kid. We’re going to roll out the red carpet and give you all the first unit power play time and all these minutes, right? Like he’s not coming in when Ryan Nan Hopkins and Conor McDavid and Leon Dryson and Taylor Hall came in when the order sucked and they and now those guys are good, some of them, don’t get me wrong, but this is a total different beast here, right? Like I honestly think 30 points would be an unreal accomplishment for either one of them. Unless they land if they land with McDavid or or or Didle though it might inflate. I I think 30 would be a disappointment. Right. And they might which is unique. Like I think you said Bunting wasn’t he playing with Matthews? Maybe I’m wrong. Yeah. Yeah. But and he was also older too. Yeah. He was older. Yeah. I was like Sergey Mackarov in what was it 87 or 88? Um not quite the same but he was older. Uh yeah I mean so that’s and you usually like in Jano’s case wasn’t it a couple of injuries like usually something like that plays out for a rookie to do it. Usually that’s what I’m surprised. I was at first when you said the 15 minutes, but on second thought, you know, because you gota like 15 minutes of 60, you you you know, I would think a few teams maybe have more than that, but that’s starting to you’re starting to log big time minutes. So, in order for that to happen, it’s usually a unique circumstance and it’s not often that a team that are so stacked like the Oilers are still like searching for someone to put there. Um, so yeah, I I I I don’t think it’s I don’t think it’s outlandish to think it might happen, but everything would have to go right. Yeah, everything would have to go right. I mean, obviously I maybe I just spoke two minutes of what’s obvious, but you know, I even if they play a lot, you still everything has to go right. Yeah. No, it’s true. I I think like Victor Arbertson ended up scoring 15 goals which isn’t an awful year but obviously you know for the time he spent with Leon Drytle it’s it’s not great but he only had 27 points and he averaged 14 minutes and 59 seconds. Yeah that’s amazing court amongst the order. Now, he did miss 15 games, so maybe but like Cory Perry had an out of this world season. Got some power play time, had 19 goals, 30 points, right? Like 30 points is difficult for a lot of guys when it’s mainly coming five on five, right? And that’s Yeah, man. I I I just like to point it out because I’ i’ve seen a lot of these projections and people are getting excited and I get it. I understand that you’re excited. You want them to do well and that’s awesome. But u you know now hey Fogle did have 40 points uh two seasons ago with the orders right had his career year so you can do it but to ask a rookie I’m just saying like in in 2023 when the orders like they were killing teams right that’s McDavid had 153 points dry settle had 128 they still only had now Kane only played half the year so that’s a you know an asterisk but they still only had four forwards with over 30 points. Yeah. You know, the more you talk about it, you got me sold here. Yeah. Like cuz as a player, I remember that, man. I remember thinking, geez, if I’m not on the power play, I just want to like try to get a point every two games, throw every hit I can. Like it starts to be you’re not thinking that every minute. But I’m I’m just saying it does sometimes get analytical in your head because you’re like, “Okay, what what’s realistic here?” like I what can I shoot for you know obviously to be on the power play but if I’m not like you know and just being out there after like 20 games going okay like I feel like I’m playing great and I got nine points you know like it just things like that and and you know you just assume but I mean McDavid and J even there like they’re going to be out there on the power play penalty late situations playing with everybody and and hopefully you’re not going to be in on every single goal so yeah 30 plus for a rookie for either one of the boys or Howard, you you got me sold here that uh you know, expectations maybe shouldn’t be as high as they are. Yeah, and that’s that’s I’m I’m just trying to put in a realistic number. Hey, Greg’s uh look up Pis’ points last year. Only one power play. Yeah, I know. But Prous again, not a rookie. And that’s an outlier. There’s always outliers. I have no problem with an outlier. and he he was clearly an outlier in the NHL last year. For a guy to have 50 points and have that many even strength, yes, no question about it. But he’s also not a rookie and they were one of the best five on five teams in the NHL. And Prous had a fantastic year, but he’s a beast of a human, right? Like that guy’s massive. Wasn’t a rookie. So there there’s lots of things to come into play there. Great for him. So could it happen? Yeah, anything can happen. I’m just trying to point out what what’s what’s more realistic, that’s all. Yeah. And he’s not he wasn’t a rookie. I’m thinking rookie because you there’s there’s a point to be I don’t care what you are. You got to adjust to the league. You might get you know Demi Dopp’s an example. What do you have like remember he had like that unbelievable first game and then all of a sudden two games later like he missed his guy wide open and you know there’s going to be a learning curve for anybody. I I’m taking that into account is that the rookie part of it. I don’t care who you’re playing with, you got to adjust. And sometimes it’s harder playing with. I mean, that’s why uh often you see the best players in the game. You might see one player that’s great with them, but finding two is often hard. Go back through the hockey history. And you can see that because it’s not always the easiest just to make that, you know, the timing of playing with one of those guys. And, you know, for me, I’d always be thinking, give give the puck. You got to keep it shoot sometimes. And that can be a hard line to really see as a rookie. So yeah, I’m taking that into account. I think order f like if you look at uh Mackie Samasovich who was with Florida I think in a very similar situation as the orders right now, right? Very good team being in the Stanley Cup final two years in a row. Well, obviously last year would being one year and they won. He was a rookie who played on a Stanley Cup winning team and played 13 minutes a night and did score 31 points. So that’s possible. Well, that’s why I’m saying 30 points, Matt Seavoy. That’d be fantastic. But keep in mind that Samaskovich also had 11 points on the power play. 11. Yeah. I like that’s it’s going to be hard to to get that many points on a second unit power play unless one of the guys in the first unit gets hurt and one of the rookies gets promoted. That’s that’s just the only way uh I see it. Um, it’s just and so I only bring it up because I’ve ran into a lot of people when I was on hall, hey, what do you think of the rookies? And I’m like, well, I always like to say, well, what do you think? And a lot I was hoping to get 40 or 50 points. And I’m kind of like, do you know how hard it is to get 40 or 50 points in the NHL when you’re not on the first power play? Like, it is incredibly incredibly difficult. So, that’s all that’s all I’m saying. So, when it comes to Seavoy and I I’ll say this, T like I’m not sold that Ike’s going to be here to start the season. are you? No. I Well, there’s just a like I said, there’s a there’s a huge learning curve and I know and I I’ve thought about this one honestly. I’ve really looked at it and there’s people that are it’s it’s almost polarizing on the expectations, but I know like there there’s a lot of I know he can really shoot the puck. Like I know that, but there’s, like I said, it’s now it’s the NHL and we can go down the list of players that come in that are expected this and this happens and he could even be progressing at a normal rate and spend time in the minors. I’m not down on the guy. I don’t even know yet. But it it is harder to break in than you think. And you you you might be an accomplished player in college or major junior or the AHL, but to just come in firing on all cylinders is real tough. And even look at recent history without naming names. Some of the best young prospects in the game have an adjustment period um in all relative terms. So yeah, I mean I I I wish him the best, but there there’s going to be h I I’m I’m I’d like to more predict in two years from now. I could be can almost be more confident in the numbers because this year, like I said, there’s going to be a learning curve. Now, San Jose or Chicago, they will allow for that learning curve to be a lot more elastic, but like you just said, it’s the Edmonton Oats. You’re expected to get back to that cup final. you’re you’re expected to really really really make a play for the Stanley Cup if not win it. It’s a lot harder just from nerves, from spots available um and from management decisions like because you know if it’s not going well you might be part of a trade. I’m not I don’t want to be negative. I’m just saying whereas other teams would probably give you a lot more leeway and then you grow with the younger guys like Celebrini or Bedard if I’m them. Um, you know, it’s it’s I I’m growing with the team around me and it’s a little bit easier that I got all this expectation, but we’re not really supposed to win right now. So, there’s something off my back, but you know, for these guys, they’re going to have to come in and Okay, help us now. Yeah, very true. Jason Gregor, Terry Ryan, when we come back, Jason Strudwick will join us in the Gregor Show presented by playalberta.ca. The job isn’t done until the last load is hauled, and having a semi-trail out of commission is not an option. 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Do you know the other player who had 50 points but less or two two power play points or less from Nick? Nick, I do know that cuz I looked it up when I was talking about Proise earlier. It’s none other than former Reuter Ryan Mloud. Cloud had 53 points but only two on the power play. And uh Prous had uh 50 Pro actually had 66 points and only one on the power play. crazy. He’s obviously the only guy in the league to have 60 points and one on the power play. Like that is there’s not many guys who even I think there was like 10 forwards who had 50 plus points and less than 10 power play points, but lots of them had like nine like Anders Lee and um oh god Geeky I think and then there’s like Brock Nelson, Bohor had a few others but um to only have one or two it’s pretty uh show pretty good year for Ryan Mloud in uh in Buffalo. Lots of uh even strength scoring. Didn’t do it on the uh power play at all. Jason Gregor, Terry Ryan with you sports 1440. 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There’s a lone steakhouse I used to go to down in Kentucky and it hold the penis. I was just sucking on those ones. I mean, you need to have clean nuts. I’m talking about the kind you get in a bag at an Elks game. You know what I mean? It’s time for Struds On. [Music] Welcome back, my man. How you doing? Good. Good. Uh Biggie season. Let’s get this going. It’s been I feel like we’ve been off for a long time. Yeah, they have been. Um Freddy, a few things. What’s I I know I gonna ask you this question. Who do you think plays the most minutes with Darnell Nurse as a defense partner this coming season? Oh man. Um well, I’m going to assume that Ekcom and Bushard are back together. Um although I guess we don’t have Paul Coffee, so I might be adjusted a bit. Um I’m probably gonna go with Oh god, I got I’m gonna go with Jake Wman because he’ll play as offside. What’s What’s the consensus among you guys? Well, we just came up with a question. I haven’t even answered it yet. So, I asked you first as a defenseman. So, honestly, so who are you saying? Yeah, honestly Jake Bomb. He’ll play his offside. Um, you know, it’s funny. Guys are reluctant to play their offside. I I think there are some parts that are easier, some parts are harder for sure. Um, but same on your forehand, maybe just not used to it. But yeah, if you’re if you’re assuming that you they keep the top pairing together and then you know Kulak doesn’t love playing the offside and and uh yeah, I’m going to go I’m going WMAN, boys. That’s final answer. Lock me in. Wman. All right, TR. Uh God, I Wman. Koola. I’ll say Kulak. He doesn’t play the offside much, but it’s happened and who knows. I was going to say Wman, so I’ll be different. So, uh, no, neither of you think Troy Stetcher or Ty Emerson will slide their way in there. Yeah, it’s a possibility. I think the challenge for those guys that though, you know, it seems like the head coach likes to rotate. He doesn’t like to keep guys spinning for too long. Fair. So, so you you know, if you could he be, you know, one one of the top guys, Stcher. Yeah, for sure. Emerson. Yeah. But the challenge is they might only play 40, 50 games each. You know, unless there’s some injuries because you know the other five guys are all playing and that’s the challenge for those guys is going into camp. You know where you’re at, right? You’re at you know those five guys are all playing. So you’re you’re going to at best get 50% of the games if nothing else changes as far as injuries and or or any kind of movement of faith. Strutddy, I know that usually you’re pretty um hesitant to to get too excited about rookies, which I think is good. Uh it’s tough league. Um do you think both Seavoi and Howard are going to make the team out of training camp? Um I don’t think the No, I don’t think they will. I think that I think it’s more likely Seavoy than I Howard, but we’ll know in in in preseason. Do these guys do they get legitimate chances to play in spots where they should be played? Right? Ike Howard playing on the fourth line to me doesn’t make sense. If you’re going to play him, he’s got to play at least in the top three lines. Same with Matt Seavoi. Put the players where they have a chance of of being the best version of themselves and helping the team. Um so, you know, if it looks like early on it’s it’s, you know, Majio Pani and Pod Colden and Leon, okay, that that closes off an opportunity for these guys, right? If new Ja Hopkins on the wing, that closes off another opportunity because that probably means they’re putting the band back together with Connor and Zack and although Zach might be out or he might not start on time, so that may be an opportunity. Yeah. Um, so I I think it’s I think it’s unlikely and that’s not a bad thing, right? I I don’t think that the goal is to try to get them in there and playing so they feel good about themselves and contribute as the year goes on. It doesn’t matter where you start, it’s where you finish as you get towards February, March, and April. Yeah. No, no, that’s totally fair. But I will say this about it. It it does matter where you finish. Sure. But if there’s one thing the orders can improve on, it would be giving themselves home ice advantage in the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don’t sorry I I should say I when I’m saying doesn’t matter where they finish, I mean as far as the the young Sorry, it doesn’t matter. They start where they finish about the development of a younger player. Um you know, I I put that as separate to what the team’s doing. Um you know, getting wins and things like that and I agree with you. I think home home ice would be would be a great thing, but I think for this group um these two two young players, you know, they need to get minutes. You know, it has to be north of 10 minutes for sure. And you have to live with some mistakes. And that’s not just the coach has to live with mistakes. That’s a veteran centerman, right? Of there be turnovers by young players. Um you know, bad plays or missed finish. You have to live with that. If you’re Leon Connor, NG or I guess Trent Frederick might be another center in those top three lines. So they have to be patient and that’s a conversation you have to have with your leaders if you’re knob block studs. So this was brought to my attention recently and I didn’t realize that there was no fitness testing. I I thought maybe it was changed, but a can you believe that this passed? And what do you would your approach have been any different if you knew there was no fitness testing? Cuz an RJ really it soaked up a lot of my my mental stress going into camp. I’m not saying I didn’t work hard. I just can’t believe that they pulled it off. Yeah. So, what you know, so this there I believe this is the last year, Gregs, right? The last year of fitness testing, I believe, is this year. I’m not even sure there’s fitness testing this year. I have to double check. Okay. Okay. Because the new collective agreement starts next year. Well, but sorry. You know, like they’ve announced like there’s lots like the salary caps coming in this year in the playoffs. The double retention’s coming in this year in the playoffs. So, we’re going to have because I’ll look because I got a I actually got a thing. I’m just checking on my phone right now as we’re speaking because I got a note about uh you know, dates and what to watch for. um vets report and then there’s two practes the next day. Now I guess when vets report that means they could do testing. I think str well like I’m I’m assuming they’ll probably still do the eye test which means some guys will get stressed out like you did but um you know I I think they’ll do those tests but I don’t think even this year I’m not sure they’ll do the wind gate or those tests. Like I think some teams could say what’s the point? No. Yeah because you’re not carrying on. So that that’s fair. So, so let’s assume they’re not like or let’s say it’s optional. Teams can do whatever they want. And I guess it could have been optional, you know, all this time. To answer your question, TR, yes, I would approach it differently. I think that there was so much um time and thought put into V2 that it wasn’t necessarily what I needed. I was in I was in good enough shape to play when I needed, but I need to be more explosive. So, I I would try to work on my explosiveness and being, you know, more powerful, and that would equate to more speed hopefully. Um, but then you had to get on the bike and try to work on your V2 to bring that up or go for a run. And so it seemed a little bit counterproductive in what we needed, right? Yeah. Um, so yeah, as I got older, I I sacrificed a V2 to try to add or try to keep speed that I felt I had or I could improve on. No, good point. I was surprised that it it happened but um yeah I think the reason yeah I was so specifically worried about things that you know probably could be tested but didn’t really you know help me as a as an athlete specifically. I was curious what you thought of that. Now who do you think in the Western Conference if anybody falls out of the playoffs that was in last year? Well I guess we have to figure out who push you know who would push in. Like I don’t like Calgary. I mean, are they going to be as good? Maybe, maybe not. I think Anaheim will be better. Um, for sure. I think Kings might be better. Vegas I I’m sorry. I think Petra Angelo is a big big miss. And even I think Hey was a good player for them too, right? That’s that’s a big deal. Those Dmen. And I know they got Marner, but I think a lot of their identity when they’re at the top and they still at the top was that D and the way they played. Now reacted. thumbs up to the camera. Um, so I I you know what, who could fall out? I mean, I don’t think the years are I I think it’ll be pretty hard in the Pacific Division for anyone new to break in. I I guess, you know, may maybe Vancouver might think that they’ll have a better year and try to keep pushing up, but yeah, she’s not a Pacific Division. I have a hard time envisioning anyone really falling out. Freddy, what do you make of um Well, yeah, because they’d have to knock out maybe the fifth place team in the Central, right? most like I don’t know if LA, Edmonton, or Vegas are going to drop out. Although history, recent history suggests that in each of the last three years, there’s been at least three teams who had 100 points the previous year who then missed the playoffs, right? Like look at last year, Vancouver, Boston, and the Rangers. They all actually had 109, and every one of them went from 109 to miss the playoffs. So, the recent history suggests there will be at least or or should be close to three teams across the league. And it’s and it’s hard when you look at those teams and say, “Okay, well, who do I think that’s going to be?” Because I’ve looked at the stats and I know that, you know, that’s doesn’t guarantee that it’s going to happen again. But Toronto, Tampa Bay, Washington, Winnipeg, Dallas, Colorado, Edmonton, LA, Vegas are the 100 point teams. Now, there’s also a few like Carolina was at 99, Florida’s at 98. like lots of teams close to it, but when when you do that and you have to pick even two teams, it kind of gets hard to think which two 100 pointers could drop out. Yeah, that’s pretty tough to think of all those teams. I I kind of like what all those teams have done, you know? So, how do you pick two out of out of that group? That’s that’s not easy. I mean, I guess would be I don’t even know where to start. I I maybe would Colorado be a a team, maybe a drop off. I don’t know. It just it’s hard to envision any those teams falling out of 100. Oh, for sure. The playoffs doing 100 points maybe. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Um, struting to the Elks and we had Cody Fardo on the show and it he had a great explanation because I noticed the missing high and he talked about I don’t know if you’ve ever been on the turf at at McMahon, but due to the drainage system, it’s it’s kind of like rounded a bit. Yeah. And he says, you know, for him it goes, it’s not an excuse, but I’ve struggled there. I just, you know what, you throw over guys because of, you know, putting the guys on the sidelines, they end up being lower than where you think they should be because where you’re throwing it from. And like that first half, like there’s I remember a coach saying it comes down to four or five plays that ultimately impact the game. And I would look at the Elks and I didn’t like their play calling on second and three when they were in the red zone and then they got nothing and they had to kick a field goal. Um, obviously the um, you know, the guy runs through the through the snap that was terrible by the offensive lineman. turnover where they were driving down. That was brutal. Um the the missed field goal, terrible. And that all happened in the first half in a span of like 13 minutes. It was it was wild. And I’m not saying they would have won the game, but man, they really made it hard to win when you make those that many significant errors. Well, Grace, as I watched the game, what I felt, and it echoes kind of what you’re saying, is that it felt like they were beating themselves, right? There’s no guarantee they’re going to win the game, but you’re playing a team like the Stamps. Many people I’ve heard talk about that they’re, you know, they’re right up there with the two best teams, including Saskatchewan in the Western side. Um, that you can’t you can’t beat yourself. Make the other team beat you. Make the other team, you know, to to to take you down to the mat. But they let it up and and you know, they’ve been on a good run. Um, now they come home and they get an opportunity here to to to, you know, amend for what happened. And putting a good show on and getting a win at home would be massive. Um, obviously for the franchise, but you can’t beat yourself in any sport. Doesn’t matter what sport, but definitely with football when you’re kind of making some errors that you could definitely like to have back. That’s a tough one to swallow. Yeah. Um what about the Jays? Strutddy, you getting a little concerned about the the uh the bullpen? I am. You know, it’s I just happen to turn the game on. Uh what was it last night? Were they 4-2 in the ninth? Yeah. First guy goes, what was it? Nance goes in there and then they pull him. He leaves two guys on and then bang bang right away. It’s just, you know, they clear the bases and they get their the win. So that’s really hard and I I got to think that dynamic between the the relievers and the rest of the team is a little bit like the goalenders in in hockey. You know, you you’ve got a very specific job to do and if you’re if you’re struggling or not doing it or getting over the line, um there’s going to be some frustration. So, I’m sure they’re looking for solutions right now. Um, trying to figure out, do the guys need rest or who do you put in that position? Because other teams, they see that and they can’t wait to get past the the starter. They’re like, let’s just get past the starter, get to the bullpen, and we’ll put runs up, boys. Yeah. Jason Stra joins us. Sports 1440, sports 1440.ca, as well as uh X, YouTube, uh, Instagram, Facebook, and more. Um, Strutddy, now we’ve had this. Do you know can you remember because we got this text for you and TR your training camps and I know start you you struggled not with the testing itself of the physical side more the the mental side of it but do you remember a guy testing so poorly that it cost him a job um yeah I I remember two players specifically I won’t name their names but they were at best borderline NHLers and you know because a coach I I this is what I think as a teammate as a coach I just want to see the guys put the work in. You at least try. You know what are you asking for at that if you put in an hour and a half to two hours 5 days a week and and and a real not a visiting for an hour and working for a half hour. If you really put the effort in, you should be in good shape. And I remember this guy came in and I could see him. I’m like, “Oh god.” And he got on the treadmill or on the on the bike and it was just awful. And he came off and he’s like, “I don’t know why I was so bad. I followed the manual.” I’m like, “You didn’t follow the manual.” He’s like, “I did.” I’m like, “You can’t tell me you followed the manual. I failed Emanuel and I was way better than you and I’m not, you know, Lance Armstrong here. So, um, you know, it is disappointing as a teammate and then I honestly I think those guys get what they deserve. If you don’t come in shape, I it’s not really my problem. That’s your problem. I remember both these players are complaining about extra skates and extra bike rides. I’m like, you did it to yourself. Like, don’t don’t get mad at don’t get mad at the coach. This is your choice. Um, it’s pretty rare now, I think, where guys come in. They might be slightly off or maybe had an injury. Even though Person used that as a crutch, you know, he couldn’t train properly because he had a bad knee and all that stuff, but you can’t come in and and I just I would hate that feeling TR of of letting my teammates down because I’m not in terrible. It’s terrible for me. It was the the way I learned my lesson once. It was my first camp out of J. It was at a junior. But I always worked really hard and I knew that just doing that and I know it’s going to sound silly, but playing ball hockey at home because it’s a sport that you’re, you know, you’re running a lot. So, I knew I’d be in like my cardio would be good, but it really meant like I I could sway like up to 210 down to 190. And whenever I was heavier, I tested worse. And the one year, yeah, I came in like 212 thinking I’m going to I was just drafted, too. Like I thought I’d come in like big, you know, like I’ll keep working out but have an extra meatball sub. And it just backfired. And I took all kinds of creatine. You know, the creatine where people told you it was good. I don’t know. But if I’m just having it on top of everything else, it’s not. I learned my lesson quick, man. I went back the next year, exact same, like you said, the manual, right? Exact same training. I was 192, aced everything. So, you know, one little thing, it just takes discipline, but for me it was diet. For other people, maybe not so much. Yeah. Well, the diet, I think for sure. For anybody out there right now, the hands up people whose diet gets a little off the rails, well, suddenly you’re just like, what happened here? Right. the scale. It’s like someone said, “No, no, I ate the I followed the diet to a plan, but I gained 10 pounds and everyone else lost six. You didn’t follow it. Don’t give us like no, I have I have slow metabolism.” That’s always the one that No, there are a very very select few who can use that as a legit thing and it happens for some but it’s a extremely no you know you know Craig just for to go back to that when you when you at least I believe when you’re in the NHL after every season you need to re-evaluate what or evaluate how the year went and then sit down with your people whatever it’s your trainer whatever the team’s trainer what do I need to work on what do I need to improve on and if you’re not doing that you’re at best staying where you are or getting worse you have to keep moving forward, right? And that’s I never understood it when a guy, you know, needed to get quicker. And listen, I I wasn’t that quick, but I tried as hard as I could to get quicker. If you need to get stronger, then lift more than ride the bike or she needed conditioning or whatever you need more flexibility. Whatever it is, just just doing the status quo doesn’t work. And now these teams all have guys that do tailored individual workouts for everyone. It’s not just a the Islanders manual you get and you just follow it. It they’re so so far ahead even what it was 10, 15 years ago. And so there’s no excuses. There should be improvement in your physical fitness every summer and your ability to do more on the ice. There there’s zero excuse. Starting, are you coaching the kids again this year? Oh, yeah. I’m back in there. Got the whistle shined up. Just got home from the dry cleaners. Are you head coach or assistant coach? No, just I’m actually assistant to the assistant. Oh, you are a little Dwight Trudish. That Yeah, you totally are. Yeah. Like very very anal about lots of things that don’t Yeah. Um, oh that is unbelievable. So now as an assistant coach, does your head coach have a rule that no jeans allowed coaching? Well, yeah, they they’ve seen it and they they couldn’t believe it when they saw it. And I’ll still go on. I mean, the the the moms, they still like seeing it when I pull the tracksuit off when I got the jeans on walking out. Um, you know, and if whatever, you just try to be your own person, right? Because there’s no reason for a coach to sweat. If you’re running a good practice, why are you sweating? The kids should be sweating, not you. Well, maybe get involved. Show them a few drills. Come on. I That’s why I have younger. See, the the kids can Well, it’s getting closer, though. That’s the problem. Like, it won’t be as fun when I know they can outscape me. But when I play catch the rabbit, I can still catch them. So, it’s fun. The minute the minute that ends, I’m out. Then I’ll be like, I’ll just stand at center ice with a whistle and I won’t move. Just stay in the circle, right? Yeah. special. Exactly. Yeah. We’ll talk to you next Tuesday. Have a great day. See you guys. All right. 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Rolling through a lovely busy Tuesday. How are you? Welcome back. after a few weeks off. Still just trying to get skates on now. It’s like preseason. It’s like a preseason game here. Getting uh uh things going. Haven’t had too many screw- ups. Conan and Declan keeping things on the rails. So, that’s good. Jason Greger alongside Terry Ryan. George Springer with another uh lead off home run. And the Jays are saying, you know what, let’s just try to score as many runs as we can and not worry about the bullpen because they are up early. uh three Cobb in the first inning and only one out and uh still I think runners on uh second and uh third right now for the uh for the Jays. Oh no, did did Kirk just triple? Absolutely. Oh baby. So okay, so bases clearing triple from Kirk. How about that? That’s got to be his first triple of the year. Got to look that up. That’s unbelievable. That guy I get why he’s a fan favorite. He’s super fun to watch. Guy’s super competitive and does everything, man. stealing bases, hitting trebles. Unra tiara, a big fan of Kirk. Yeah, I love when he stole that base. My My daughter and I have been to a few I go to lots of Jay’s games. I know you’re there a little while ago. And don’t you get that vibe when you’re there? You don’t hear it as much on TV, but every time he comes up to bat, like I mean I know that there’s many fan favorites this year, but he’s to me at least the one that you hear about most at the games. Uh very true. Now, let’s get to five questions brought to you by the brick and the tent sale on right now. You can score up to 60% off original prices on clearance items. New items arriving daily big screen teas are up to $700 off and you get free local delivery on TVs 50 in or more right now at the brickandthebick.com. [Music] It’s time for five questions on the Jason Greger show. Just an update, guys. The Kirk Triple was waved off. He was take out, so he still only has one in his career. Question number one for you guys, what was your biggest takeaway from the Elks loss in Calgary yesterday? I am not qualified for that. You’d be better off asking Richard Simmons about the latest UFC fight. So, I’m not going to waste people’s time. You guys go ahead with the Elks and I’ll go next. Hey, I like your Richard Simmons on UFC classic. Uh, my biggest takeaway for the Elks was that their offensive defensive lines, they still got they got a lot of areas to improve there to get better. And hey, the Carter O’Donnell signing is massive for the Green and Gold today. Yeah, I guess I’ll I’ll weigh in as well. I I just think the the offensive line has to get better. When you’re getting pressure against with three men rushing you, that’s not going to be good enough. So, yeah, the the offensive line has to be better and I like that move as well. Question number two for you guys. On a scale of 1 to 10, what are the chances McDavid does not have a contract by the start of the regular season in your opinion? TR? Oh, uh I’m not even, you know, three. I I guess I haven’t really thought about it and even if it wasn’t right at the beginning, I still like I said a better question for me would be what are what are on a one to 10 that he’s not an Oiler next year I would say.5 but you know by camp I’d say three. Yeah. by training by the start of the regular season. Oh, regular season. I’m gonna say like chances he doesn’t have one like a one. By the start of the regular season, I think he’ll have one for. All right, question number three. With the NFL season approaching, we got some questions this week. Who’s your pick for offensive and defensive rookies of the year? Go ahead. Um, well, based on how everybody’s excited, I’m gonna go I’ll go with uh Tet McMillan for uh uh offensive uh rookie of the year. And then um defensive rookie of the year. How about um I’ll go uh Michael Williams or is it is it Michael with the my or either way uh out of Georgia the defensive end? So I’ll go with it. Guys, I have a question. So I’m like I said, I gather as much information as I can and I even have the video game and I play with each player to try to uh you know to try to figure out football’s nuances. Okay. Yeah, I know enough about it. But so this I’m going with a lot of people are saying Ashton Ganti. Is that how you say that? Went sixth overall. Yeah. Sure. So if he just went sixth overall, I see it now. But a lot of people are say, is it Trey Veon Henderson? Second round pick running back for the Patriots. And a lot of people, a lot I don’t know about if it’s an overwhelming amount, many many people are pointing to him as possible rookie of the year. So, if the draft just happened, what how did he go so late in the second round if right now there has been no games played? Was his camp so unbelievable or is there something I’m missing with the football logistics? It’s a great question. I think it comes down to position, right? A lot of teams will take a quarterback and not a lot of quarterbacks are going to be starting. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. Question number four. Since we are now streaming on YouTube from 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., I want to ask you guys, what is your favorite YouTube video of all time? Oh, smashing grapes for sure. Have you seen that one? Con the newscaster. She’s on Terry. She’s on there and she’s like, she smashes the grapes and then fall. Oh my god. And then she’s barking like a seal because she lost all the air. Oh, die. Anytime. If I’m in a bad mood, I’ll show that one. So, I’ll go with the stomping grapes. YouTube videos. I like I don’t even The only thing I use my TV for cable TV is to watch Oilers games. I I don’t watch it at all. So everything I see is YouTube video. Yeah. I wouldn’t even know. And I don’t watch like the Tik Tok type like trending. I’ve never ever hit on trending in my life. I don’t even know one thing that’s ever trend. I assume it just comes through by osmosis through everything else. So, I mean, I don’t know. I’ll give you something different. Um, I use it to listen to radio shows from the 30s and 40s called um oldtime radio or whatever. I mean, I listen to that a lot. I like to go down by the water in the pitch black and turn on a radio show from um, you know, the 1930s, for example. Sam Spade is my favorite there. That’s what I use YouTube for the most. That would be unique, but I don’t watch the trending stuff. Final question for you guys today. Ke Reeves turned 61 years old. Of all his roles, what is your favorite? Go ahead. Mine I’d look up for his last name. Um, a few weeks ago, my daughter asked me. I couldn’t remember, but Jack, I think it’s Tman. It’s the guy from Speed anyway. It’s always Jack. I don’t know if they ever do mention his last name, but I’ll tell you why. Because the Matrix obviously John Wick there are you know he’s been involved in numerous actually great franchises. You throw Billan’s head in. So many famous roles, but that one mid90s was I thought it was fairly unique. Kind of outlandish now. Just as outlandish as number two, but it was it was fresh and unique and I remember and I love Dennis Hopper and he one of his last probably his last real good role that I really appreciated and uh Sandra Bulock’s decent to look at. So I love the movie. Um, I love the adrenaline and I will pick that to be kind of off the board, but anybody my age would probably know exactly what I’m talking about. TR, I’m going to go with this. I’m not even going to say the character because when I say the quote, you’ll know the character. You try to fight back, but the harder you fight, the deeper you sink until you can’t move, you can’t breathe because you’re in over your head like Quicksand. Shane Falco, the replacements, Kiana Reeves. Wow, beauty pick. I I thought And you know what? Wait. I love that pick. Connor, before I say my next thing, what are you going to say? Um, I will go with Connor O’Neal when he was in Hard Ball. I know I I say like movies never really make me cry like true stories do not uh not uh fictional but this one pretty close G baby the scene with him if you guys remember and that was a tough scene dies yeah yeah so I been a tough time to watch that one again because it’s just so sad at the end but really good movie um he’s been in so many and you know what I’d forgotten about till it came on the other day. Going back through my old VHS tapes, looking at highlights and Young Bloodood came on and I forgot. I forgot. Yes. He was playing hockey in the Toronto area, answered a call and went and and was in Young Bloodood. I totally totally had forgotten about that. It blew me away. Yeah. Yeah. No, it is a classic for sure. I love it. Uh TR, have yourself a lovely Tuesday. We’ll chat with you in a few days. Thank you, Connor. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, Edmonton. We’ll chat in just a few days. Catch you guys on the rebound. That’s Terry Ryan joins us Tuesday and Thursdays. Uh let’s get to the con man and a sports 1440 update brought to you by Northgate, Chevrolet, Buick, and GMC. In September, Northgate is helping feed families. For every truck sold, they’ll feed a family of four. Farmers and small business owners get preferred rates in September. Northgate, this truck’s for you. This is a sports 1440 update. The also agreed to terms with national offensive lineman Carter O’Donnell, who spent the last five seasons in the NFL with the Colts and the Cardinals. Edmonton acquired O’Donnell back in 2022 trading the first overall pick for his rights and a fourth overall pick. Calgary planes making some changes with Ryan Huska’s staff announcing that Dave Lowry has rejoined the team and his assistant coach while Brad Larson is a part of the organization for personal reasons. And in the NFL, Gabe Davis signing with the Buffalo Bills. Major League Baseball tonight, great start for the Jays. Bottom of the first, they lead the Reds 4 nothing. Pirates also lead the Dodgers 4- nothing in the first. And in the second, Tigers up on the Mets two to1. Later tonight, Mariners in Tampa. Got the Cubbies and the Braves. White Sox in Minnesota. Giants taking on the Rockies. Orioles in San Diego and the Diamondbacks host the Rangers. WNBA two games tonight, both at 8:00. Valkyries host the Liberty and the Fever up against the Mercury. Coming up in hour four of the Jason Greger Show, we’ll be joined by Mark Spectre of Roger Sports Net and Puckedia’s Hart Lavine. 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Very much appreciate you being part of the show. As we return, it’s always presented by play Alberta.ca. This is the start of year three for us. And play Alberta.ca has been the title sponsor of our show uh since uh we started on sports 1440 actually was uh longer uh previous station as well. So uh happy to have them back on. We got some new sponsors just in time for the new year and lots of other uh consistent ones as well. I’ll mention all them over the next uh few weeks. So uh without them and without you doesn’t really work. So uh thank you very much. Jason Greger, Connor Hley. You can text us 83341440. 83341440. Just would clarify because we had a few texts. Conor McDavid has not signed a contract extension yet. Um, it’s just another erroneous report, but that’s uh is incorrect. So, just let you know. Is he going to sign a contract extension? Yes. As I wrote in my article today, it’s going to vary from from educated guesses to complete lies, unfortunately. 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Whether it’s running water or the freeway to get you home, they help it out. GS Construction, they also signed on again for another year. Big uh thanks to Teran and everybody have them back on. We love the sport as Mark Spectre from Roger Sportsnet joins us. Spec, how you doing? Doing great, Jay. What’s going on, man? Well, Speck, I I want to start with an area that I know you have a lot of expertise in. Oh, boy. Something I know I know that’s a short list, but this is something that I know you know very well, very intimately. Uhhuh. How to get rocked coming out of the bullpen. And right now, the Jays are unbelievable at it. Yeah. Yeah, I know that. I know that. What do you see or what do you what what concerns you most about their bullpen right? Well, first of all, the walks like walking guys to me that that’s the you know, it’s the oldest story in sports. Control what you can control. Uh there’s two reasons a pitcher walks a batter. One is he’s scared. He his stuff’s not good enough and he’s scared to challenge him. So, he’s nibbling, nibbling, nibbling and he’s missing. So, that’s one. The other is you just can’t throw a strike. And if you’re a big league pitcher coming out of the bullpen, the walks happen. I get it. Especially for a starter, but when you’re coming out of the bullpen with men on in important situations, the walks kill. So that’s the first thing. Walks are death for relievers. And you know, now you have to start getting a little more specific which guys have in which problem. Uh you know, Little’s got this this unbelievable curveball that this lefty throws, but he’s got zero control. And the stats say that guys aren’t swinging at it anymore because they know it never ends up in the strike zone. So now he’s got to start throwing it for strikes. And guess what, Jay? It’s not as good a pitch when it ends in the strike zone as when it ends in the dirt. So that little uh uh little is is there’s a pitcher there, but he’s got to figure it out or he’s not going to help down the stretch here. Yeah. Um when you you look at the uh at the Jays and it’s funny like they scored four runs again to uh to start the first inning and uh now they’re already in trouble and they got they got their guys up in the bullpen already like Bereio is struggling like my god their their staff across the board right now is just not giving them a ton of confidence like it and eventually spec it just becomes a fatigue factor with the arms. Well, I mean it it what happens when your bullpen’s no good is is you stick with your starter too long for one. You tend to do that now. I I think I’ll take you to task a little bit. Their pitching st their starting staff’s been pretty good. There haven’t been many bad starts here, right? No, no, the starters have been good, but Burrios hasn’t been good for Briio. Bereos has been the one weak link. So yeah, you know, we are getting closer to a time when Schneider, John Schneider, the manager, might have to start to get a little bit uh innovative here. He may have to take a starter and make him a reliever. He may have to swap some roles around in there. Um, you know, if he doesn’t like, you can’t just go in. This has to change down the stretch. They’re still a good team. They’re still winning most of their games. I get it. There’s a Hoffman problem here, too. And I don’t know what you do about that because you don’t have another guy who’s Hoffman. He’s the guy. That’s his job. He’s got the tools. If he can’t do it, now we go to closer by committee, which is just another language way of saying we don’t have a closer, so we’re just going to toss out whoever. And that doesn’t work. No. So, they’re in a little bit of trouble here. They need some people to step up. They need a couple relievers, a couple guys to get control and be counted on. Whether it’s Rodriguez, whether Hoffman re reemerges, whether Lowour ends up being in there a little bit, I’m not sure, but someone’s got to take the bull by the horns right now. They just don’t have anyone they can hang their hat on here. And that’s, you know, what do you do in the seventh? Like, who are you going to in the seventh, Jay, when you’re the pitching coach for the Blue Jays right now? Yeah, it’s pretty difficult for sure. back. Uh the Elks um we had Cody Fardo on. I thought he was fantastic. I just said, “Hey man, quarterback’s job is to make guys better. I don’t think I did that.” Um you know, he didn’t like he also gave a really good explanation about his struggle in Calgary and you’ve been at that stadium spec, right? Like you stand in the middle of the field and the sidelines because of how the curvature is, it’s not flat, like it’s quite a bit lower and and you know, he you saw like he overthrew receivers over their head which we haven’t really seen all year long. And he had a really good explanation. Goes not an excuse. He goes, “I got to be better. I should know it.” I’ve struggled there and it just you know what you get frustrated with it and you’re over over it’s interesting it is interesting and it’s but I also remember the old Houston stadium the same thing right like I saw lots of guys in the NFL they used to have the same issue with it and it was like a significant difference and so you’d see a lot of guys kind of forget and it end up overthrowing guys early on because you think okay I got to throw the dart here but when you’re in the middle of the field by the time it gets to the guy you’re throwing it on a on a dart well that guy’s dropped you know quite a bit and you end up overthrowing him so it’s interesting Yeah, it is interesting. And uh the O line and Dline still not up to par, but they get Carter O’Donnell today. Spent the last few years in the NFL. He’s from Red Deer. Played at the University of Alberta Golden Bears. Like really good guy. Kind of got injured a bit. And sometimes then you’re out of sight, out of mind. And that happens in the NFL for sure. They recycle players more than anybody. But this is a huge get for the Green and Gold. I don’t know how much he’s going to play, but I mean told he’ll be on the roster on Saturday. Well, yeah. I mean, let’s if he let’s see how much he plays Saturday, but this is obviously a long-term thing. He signed How long a long long-term a deal did he sign? I think it’s three, but I got to double check. Yeah, I thought it was three years. So, I think that’s got to be about the max in the CFL, isn’t it? Does anyone sign for more than three years in the CFL? You never see him. Uh, anyhow, listen, I thought he looked a little undized for an NFL offensive lineman, but he’s a big stud in the Canadian game. And and listen, you know, to me, I’ve I know as much about football as as the average 65 305, dude. He’s pretty big. Yeah, the guy’s I guess. I mean, 65 is not that tall on an offensive line in the United States, but okay, I take it back. He’s obviously huge up here. He’s going to be a massive stud. So, but my point is this. I always fall back on football teams have to control the line of scrimmage. In the end, football is it’s the old analogy that it’s like war where we’re fighting for territory every play and it really comes down to line play. And the the Elks line play hasn’t been good enough on either side of the ball this year. N you you will win the odd game when you lose the line of scrimmage, but you won’t win a series of games losing the line of scrimmage. You can’t have I mean, they’re getting no sacks, right? They’re getting no picks because they’re not getting enough pressure on quarterbacks. Uh their quarterback tends to be running for his life more than you’d like to see. It’s it’s the football team. You can have all the receivers and returners and backs and everybody you want, man. If you’re not solid and stout on the O line and D line, you’re kind of faking it. you’re kind of building a house on a crappy foundation. So, I get it. It takes a long a while to build a football team, but a real football team, a team with a chance is a team that wins the line of scrimmage more often than not. And I’ll say that, Jay, this Alex team doesn’t win the line of scrimmage very often, do they? No, not enough. No, it definitely it has to be better. Um, you know, Szna got banged up again yesterday. You know, I short week. probably don’t think we’ll see him on Saturday, but really sadly when he’s been in there, he there just hasn’t been enough consistent pressure from that group. Starting to wonder if they got if if they got the Jake Serna on the back end of his career here potentially. Injuries have definitely played a factor, but yeah, it’s it’s fair. It’s definitely fair to to to to look at it when you look at the numbers like, hey, you are what your numbers say you are, right? That’s say, hey, that’s what our record is. Well, that’s what your stats are. And if you don’t have a lot of pressures and you don’t have a lot of sacks, well, guess what? Usually you don’t have a lot of wins. And yep, uh right now for the green and gold. So, we’ll see if they can uh uh get better. I I will say, you know, the crowd’s going to be probably the biggest crowd of the year on Saturday. And they have their new uh Labor Day rematch brunch, which is going to become an annual event. It’ll be at Expo Center. Uh there’s a few tickets left available if you go to the Elks website and click the community tab. But, you know, I love that. I love that they’re doing something like this. It’s kind of like a mini uh Spirit of Emonson spec in the middle of the year. It’s fantastic. Yeah, for sure. It’s It’s time to, you know, I mean, there’s so much to build. Like, I get it. The Eskimos are gone. They’re never coming back. The greatness of their tradition. And, you know, those days are over. We loved them. They’re like the 80s Oilers. They’re gone forever. Okay, let’s get our head around that. It’s time now for the Elks to build some things on their own. build some Elks things or whatever this team’s going to be called in the next few years. It’s time to start building some traditions. It’s time to build around a team that you can go to the ballpark and look at them and say, you know what, this team’s got a chance to win. They’re getting there. I’m not saying they’re there yet, Jay, but I would you’d agree with me. They’re getting there. I see more of a football team for sure right now than I saw, you know, a year ago today. Even the game in Calgary, I mean, what was the final 287 or something? They were, you know, they made a couple mistakes. They didn’t deserve to win. They weren’t the better team, but they were right in that football game most of the way through. So, my point is this little this thing they’re doing Saturday, you know, let’s go have a slle juice and let’s get some Eskimo some Elks fans all in the same building together. Let’s have some fun. Let’s let’s tailgate a little. Let’s start something new, man. Let’s make a new tradition here. And I I think it will serve the organization well to start some new fresh fun around here. Yeah. No, I uh could not agree more. Uh Spec, I do want to get your thoughts. Been gone for a while, but uh the owners are back in town. They’re having their cap at the gates just at the at the rink. Um I I’ve said all along that I thought McDavid would sign in September. I still believe that. What do you think? Uh I mean, we’re all guessing for one. I want to say that right now as as and I talk, you know, I I’ll admit I’ve had a few conversations with Jud Moldver and I talk to my sources just like you. I know you talk to your people and I know Ryan Rashog’s talking to his people and we hear reports from people out east, Jay, you know, the John Shannons of the world who’ve proclaim that he won’t sign till the season starts. I’m here to tell you everybody’s guessing, right? When I’m not guessing when I say I believe he’ll sign a contract and I believe it will be something close to a four-year deal. That’s my opinion. It’s an educated opinion. I’ve been wrong before. I’ll be wrong again. But I’m not guessing. I am guessing when you say to me, you think they’ll sign in September? You know, I I do think he’ll sign in September, but I’m kind of guessing it could be October. It could be hell, they could walk in the door with I just listened to to uh listen to Bobby’s show for a second because Jeff Jackson was on there, Jake. Yeah. And Jeff Jackson, they did it that they haven’t had any serious conversations yet. He did. He did. But he also said when Connor walks when Connor and Jud walk in with their number, their term and their number, and I’m paraphrasing him, he he basically said, “Yeah, that sounds good to me. Let’s paper it.” So there’s he doesn’t even know what the number and term is yet, and he’s ready to paper the deal and let’s get it done. So it’s completely in the McDavid court. It’s completely up to Connor McDavid and Jud Moldiver the term, the number, and all they got to do is decide. Let’s let’s phone Jeff Jackson and Stan Bowman, give him the number, give him the term, and that contract could be done by end of day. So, you tell me when that end of day is going to happen, Jay. This month, next month, this week, next week. I think we’re guessing when we ask each other that question. Yeah, I I think there’s educated guesses and and it ranges from educated guesses to sadly some that are just blatant lies and people need to to figure out which ones are which. But uh the fact that the Jeff Jackson says they haven’t had a negotiation, anybody who claims there’s a contract sign is just flat out lying because Jeff Jackson just said they haven’t even had a real conversation yet, right? Which it isn’t a surprise. Um because I don’t think it’ll take that long. And and I do know that the orders, the reason why I said I never thought they’d sign September because I was told the orders really weren’t going to address because they knew it was a condensed summer. They didn’t think it was going to be a hard negotiation. McDavid’s brother had got married. His best friend got married and Leon Dry said like he and they had a devastating loss again. You know, you kind of want to you just kind of got to read the room and know when’s the time to talk and when’s the time not to. That’s it. I I it’s it’s imperative that you let Conor McDavid doesn’t hockey never gets far from Conor McDavid. He admit he’s admitted and I’ve heard him say, “I probably watch too much hockey. I should probably find other pursuits.” That’s the guy he is. He’s he is always on when it comes to hockey. If he’s if I’m the orders organization and I’m looking at my captain and my best player, the last thing I’m doing is putting business hockey related matters on his plate during his short short time off, right? It’s a short time off for him. He is a busy man all summer. I’m totally with you. Let’s get back to Edmonton. You’re coming back for camp. Let’s deal with it while you’re here. I’m not at all concerned. Conor McD will be in order beyond next season. Spec, we will chat with you tomorrow. Have a great day. Thanks, Jake. There you go. That’s the Spec Report brought to you by GS Construction. Quick break. When we come back, Hart Lavine from Puck Pedi will join us. Uh, lots of uh early CBA news where we know the new CBA doesn’t officially begin until September of 2026, but guess what? 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So uh to touch on uh all of that uh we are joined by uh Art Lavine from Pacedia to break down all the minutia of this art my man welcome back to the show. How you doing? I’m doing great. Thanks for having me. Hey I appreciate it. So I guess let’s start with the um the of all the things that are put in I guess why don’t you list them off all of the ones that are going to be implemented this coming season. Well, the the two big ones or a few big ones are the changes to LTIR during the regular season, meaning you no longer get up to the players cap hit if they’re injured, if they’re expected to come back at some point. You only get up to the league uh average, which is going to be just under four million this year. So, let’s say um the Panthers with Matthew Kachchuck, they don’t get his full cap hit his his relief while he’s on LTR. They just get 3.8 million. Whereas a player like Kerry Price though who’s definitely out all season, they would get still his full cap as his is relief. So that LTI change is going into effect. The playoff cap, which is a new thing, is actually going into effect this year as well. And we can get into how that works. Um, no more deferred compensation deals starting October 7th. So this you can still sign one, I guess, technically today, but by the first day of the season, no more deferred compensation deals. um the uh restriction on double retention goes into effect this season. So there has to be 75 league days between a first retention on a player and a second retention. So that means if a player is going to get retained twice by the trade deadline, the first trade has to be done like by Christmas because there you still need 75 days by the deadline. So I think we’ll see I’d be surprised if we see another double retention again. um you know in the NHL. Um the last couple um that are going to place now the restriction on paper loans. So a player has to actually play a game in the AHL before they can come back up. Um and a couple small one smaller one how many recalls allowed after the trade deadline they can do one more. And then the one that is not for sure but is something they’re trying to do is allowing allowing a team to have a 19-year-old in the AHL. that requires the CHL to agree to that and that hasn’t happened yet, but in the memo that went out today, they basically the league and the PA agreed to try to push the CHL to allow that this season. Um, and there apparently they’re supposed to be negotiating that next week. So, that one is up in the air, but they’re going to try and make that change. So, that’s a lot that is going to be going to affect this season when up until this morning, most people would have expected all of these to start next season. Now, the one thing you mentioned that the the player if sent to the miners has to to play a game except if it’s the paper transaction on the uh on the deadline. Is that right? There there’s still some uncertainty about that. There’s some people with teams that think that’s the case. So, you’re talking about how on the deadline players get sent to the minors on paper because that would allow them to play in the playoffs in the AHL. You have to be on the roster. Um, the way that it’s written in the MOU, it seems like that would not be allowed because they would have to actually play one game before they come up, but there’s still some some people thinking that maybe that is an exemption and and there needs to be some more clarity. We should point out, too, like we still don’t have a full CBA. We just have a memo of understanding, right? So, it’s just like the key deal points and there’s still some more language to have an official CBA to get written. So, that’s something that maybe the full CBA is written by the deadline or maybe they just clarify that. But as of the way it’s technically written, it seems like no. On deadline date, it would actually have to play a game in the Meyers before they could come up. Yeah. Which would seem kind of odd because I I know the the reason for that rule and why you do it, but I guess uh there’s a few odd things, right? So, um the the LTIR in your com Why do you think they were pushing for that? Is is it just a way to to limit uh a team getting massive savings if a player’s coming back, you know, for four months or something like that? Is that is that the purpose of this where because were they questioning the validity of injuries? Yeah, I think you kind of look at them together. The the reduction and the benefit of the LTR in the season and then adding a playoff cap. I think those are both going after the teams that had players out during the season and then they came back to start the playoffs. And while those were always technically allowed, it there’s something that didn’t feel right about it or didn’t smell right, you know, and then, you know, didn’t help with Cooer with his t-shirt and really like, you know, kind of making a big deal out of it. And we’ve seen that. We saw Florida this last year, um, you know, being able to do that as well. So, I think both of those are trying to get at that. In my opinion, though, they picked like two solutions to solve one problem. And they probably could have done with one or the other. Like if you if you made this LTR or inseason change and you only get a benefit up to 3.8 million, I think that would reduce how much like a team gets a benefit in the playoffs by all of a sudden a guy comes off LTR. Okay. So maybe they could be a couple million over the cap because a guy came back great for the playoffs, but it wouldn’t be it wouldn’t feel as dramatic as it has felt. But now you’ve kind of done both. You’ve you’ve you’ve done this in seasonason change and you’ve added a playoff cap. And then we can get into the rules of the playoff cap and you all all of this and you add in the double retention. It’s gonna mean a lot less transactions. I think a lot less trades during the season which is disappointing because that’s what people are interested in. 100%. And so let’s go to this um like the the playoff salary cap now and and how that’s going to limit movement for teams. So the playoff salary cap is interesting as as you as your listeners know like during the season a player only counts against the the team for the number of days they’re on the NHL roster. So that’s why teams under the cap we call it a crewing cap space during the season. It it’s technically not a crewing space. It’s just that by the deadline a team only has to fit about 20% of a player’s capit. So the space that they have is worth more at the deadline. Right. Right. But the playoff cap doesn’t factor that in at all. It factors in the player’s full cap hit. So if a if there’s a $10 million player and a team acquired him at the deadline, that means he’s only going to take just over two million of cap hit during the regular season, but they need to have 10 million. He’ll take up 10 million of space in the playoffs. So what that means is while a team can still benefit from kind of saving space and then using that space later in the season, that doesn’t really help them in the playoffs. And so if it’s a team that is definitely in the playoffs and that’s why they would want to make a move, they really even they could fit a player in at the deadline because of their regular season cap space when they model out what their playoff roster looks like, they might not have room for all the guys. And so that just takes a team off the board that might want to make that that splash. So there’s some other intricacies to the the playoff cap, but the big the big one is it’s just the 20 players that are dressed. So there are some benefit. You don’t have to worry about injured players or scratches, but again, it’s the player’s full cap hit regardless of when they were acquired during the season that counts on the playoff cap. Yeah, that’s the key point I think for our audience. So, you know, when you acquire a player mid-season and there’s only, you know, um I don’t know 50 days left out of 180. Well, that’s the percentage of his cap that you have to have then. However, in the playoffs now, this guy like for instance, Seth Jones last year, he wouldn’t have counted for uh you know what they it was set. He would count for the full nine, right? And that’s exactly we should I should point out retention though is is factored into the playoff cap. It is. Yeah. So, let’s say let’s just take again a $10 million player and a team retains five million of it and then they acquire him halfway through the season. So in the regular season now he’s only going to account for 2 and a.5 million, right? Because they retain 5 million and he’s only going to be on the roster for half the season. So that’s down to basically two and a half million would get charged to that team’s cap. But in the playoffs, the retention is still in effect. So it’s still he’s still a $5 million player, but again, you lose the benefit that you got him halfway through the season. It counts as if you acquired him at the start of the season. So he would carry that full um five million that’s left after the retention. So, there’s still some benefit to get a team to retain, but you don’t get the benefit from acquiring a player later in the season. Yeah. Like, doesn’t it seem though that it’s almost punishing a team that has cap space during the season? Well, it it’s there’s that’s the effect. I would say in fairness, I don’t think they’re trying to punish them, but similar to other things that we’ve seen in the NHL, I think they had a problem, they threw some solutions at it, and now there’s going to be unintended consequences coming out of it. And I I completely agree. I think one of the consequences is there’s less of a benefit for teams that acrew cap rates during the season because now they get less of a benefit in the playoffs for that player. Yes. Hart Lavine joins us from Puck Pedia. And I I agree like to me it it I understand what they’re trying to do here. They’re they’re concerned about the teams having an unfair advantage in the playoffs, but it’s it’s almost like you you mentioned earlier, Hart, how they they had a problem, but now they’ve tried to fix it twice, and it’s almost like you’re you’re you’re punishing them twice because of it. I I agree. Yeah. Like, so as we talked, like let’s say they just had the inseason LTR rule and so yeah, Ma Matthew Kachchuck’s on LTR, but you only get a benefit of the 3.8 8 million instead of his full 9 and a half million. Okay. So again, would I don’t think fans would be up in arms if a team was like 1 million or two million over the cap in the playoffs. It’s being like five, six, eight million over the cap that people have a hard time with. So I think that would have been enough. Um and and maybe you know like a playoff cap again, maybe there’s some benefit to it, but it also seems like the rules weren’t thought all the way through. Um, we should say like they they did put in there that after a couple years they could rework this playoff cap calculation. So, I mean maybe they even rework it like tomorrow for all we know, right? So, it could still change, but it Yeah, it seems like, okay, we need a playoff cap because we’ve got we don’t like how this feels. Let’s just make up some rules and and not really like think through the consequences of it. Now, the the fact that they like I know Carolina did it twice with um deferred money, but you’d have to do so much like is there like for Conor McDavid and because he’s a player that doesn’t have a contract yet. Well, he does for this year, but he could sign an extension. Like how like is there a real benefit of deferred money for the orders? Like because I look at the Seth Jarvis and uh and also Slavven like the cap hit was like 400 grand that it like not really significant enough to make a difference. If McDavid’s at 17 million for argument’s sake and you defer like how much could it be to where it’s an actual benefit? I I agree. I don’t think it provides that much benefit. I think Tavvarus is one with Toronto where there was more of a benefit. But the the way that the calculation works, it’s basically like however much benefit you get, that’s that’s what’s going to like reduce the cap hit. But then the player’s thinking, well, if I’m going to defer this money, like I need to get paid extra for that. So you kind of get to like the same point. Um and and so like with Tavarus though, I think you could look at it and say, look, look, he actually he is taking less like money or like less of a benefit because he’s pushed the money out and you look at like what that money is worth today. he gave like a real discount but unless the player is going to give a real real discount um I yeah I I think it’s a lot of work and energy that doesn’t provide a lot of value and the thing is with the calculation for um how the how the deferral is calculated like how the deferred capid is calculated the key input is the interest rate and it’s kind of like a market interest rate and you know as we know interest rates have been high relatively high over the last number of years at some point we would expect interest rates to go down and then the benefit gets even smaller and I think that’s why from many years we never saw any of these deals because when interest rates are much lower the effect the impact would be even less. So I think for a lot of reasons like it it wasn’t much of a benefit. Um but I do think that you know there’s teams that do it and they want to kind of show how smart they are and they’re they’re exposing a part of the CVA that people aren’t using. Um but it is like a lot of work to not accomplish a lot in my opinion. I agree heart great stuff man appreciate it. Of course, everybody can always see it and at Puck Pedia, uh, read it all there. I know everybody’s there when they check out all the salaries, but if you want to learn more about the CBA changes, uh, Hart has a an article right up there to, uh, clarify it even more. As always, man, we appreciate it. Have an awesome day. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, thanks so much for having me. That is a Hart Lavine from Puck Pedia. We’ll take a quick break and oh my goodness, serenity now. I people must be freaking out. We’ll tell you why next on the Greer Show presented by play Alberta.ca. 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Hey, good news. Already going to be Wednesday tomorrow. Love the long weekend Mondays, man. They are fantastic. Uh now if you enjoy offense, you would uh like the uh Jay’s Reds game so far. If you like pitching, maybe not so much, but the uh the Jays are leading 86 after two innings. Springer has a home run. Bette, who’s absolutely killing it, has two more hits. He has a three-run home run as well. Uh he is up to now 91 RBI’s. Kirk has uh 64 RBI. Springer 69. Guerrero 75. Like the Jays can the Jays can mash. The problem is that Bios comes in and what does he just do? He’s just giving up runs. Two walks in two innings. He’s allowed five hits, six runs. And you know is a thrown 35 strikes on 66 pitches. Just not good enough. It can’t be almost 50% strikes to uh to balls. So, Cons, I don’t know how much you were watching of that game, but it’s uh it’s being a tire again for him. Yeah, sitting here wishing I took the over because it’d be nice to cash in in the second inning when there’s 14 runs already. But, uh hey, I guess in terms of pure excitement, we’re getting a pretty fun ball game. I thought when it was 8-1, game over. You know, don’t count your chickens too soon. Uh he’s out though. The bad man is gone now. Gregor Tate drawing into the lineup. Uh yeah, interesting question here. Hey guys, does Regula have to clear waiverss or going to be sent down a conditioning st because he was injured all of last season from Old Stone Eagle? That’s a good question. I don’t think you’re allowed a conditioning stint right out of uh because especially if he plays a preseason game, right? If he plays preseason, I don’t see how he could qualify. Um right, if he doesn’t play preseason, then maybe. But if he’s in preseason, then no chance. But um and nothing I’ve heard that suggests he isn’t ready to play preseason. So, but it’s a good question. Hey guys, great guest. Uh made captain LTR easy to follow. Interesting. Bring him back from iron. Oh yeah, we love having heart on. He’s great. Hey guys, you think McDavid has two cups if these rules were in place the last two years? I bet he has at least one. Brad, Brad, that’s a valid question. Um, now you look at this season, this past year for sure, the Panthers roster would have looked different because the way the rules were written, you know, you acquire any player like Brad Marshon would have been a full $6 million player in the playoffs. So, yeah, it would have been very, very different. Now the orders because if Vander Kane now Kane did miss all year, so it wouldn’t have impacted him uh at all. And uh now Jake Walman’s contract though, you would had to count all of it. So I’d have to look at the numbers. It’ look a little bit different for sure. But it is one that I can understand the frustration, but then I also look and say, “Hey, if the rules were in place now, I know you need a player hurt. I understand that. And I never for a doubt doubted anybody was actually not injured. No one sits on the uh for three, four, five months not. They’re clearly injured. But do they come back in time? That’s the question. And um I would have said, “Hey man, like with the Vander Kane, I said there’s zero chance I’m putting Kane in.” None. Because it benefits you. So play the rules. Clearly he wasn’t ready, but and because he also still um he uh um still what missed the first playoff game, right? He didn’t play the first playoff game. So fine. Hey, Gregor Connor only cares about winning. He doesn’t care about Leon having a contract or his wife business here. He wants to win. There’s a real risk of losing him. Jordan. Jordan, answer the question. which teams give them a better chance to win than the one that’s been to back-to-back Stanley Cup finals. And you can’t say Florida because they have no cap space and they got guys all locked up on no muadas. So which teams outside of Florida give him a clear better chance to win? That’s what I want to hear. I I I would like to know who gives them a better chance to win because winning is really hard, right? And so you can go chase it. Look at the NBA. We see guys do it all the time. Doesn’t doesn’t lead to wins. So that that’s where I would uh that’s where I would look at and say, you know what, find out a team that’s clearly better. You might think maybe, sure, but and and here’s the other thing that very few people do want to mention. Conor Mc David did not have a great final this past year, right? Like teams teams lose. I don’t believe individuals lose. Teams lose and lots of different guys would have liked to perform better in the Stanley Cup final. But Florida also had an unreal playoff. They had so many guys have career years, right? And then the orers got him hurt. Ekcom was playing, but now how healthy was he? I think we all saw that. Nan Hopkins ends up playing with a broken hand. So, hey, Gregor Mner left because of Toronto pressure. Yeah, but do you think McDavid feels pressure? He’s revered. Order fans love him. They love him. He’s made the Stanley Cup final two years in a row. It’s It’s You’re comparing apples and oranges. If you look at the Mitch Martyr situation compared to Conor McDavid and the Emmonton Owners, like come on, that’s like me comparing my hair to Fabio, it’s not remotely the same. Yeah, we have follicules, but that’s about it. Yeah, Marner played in the Canadian market, but that’s where the comparison ends. There’s nothing remotely close between McDavid and Mner situations whatsoever from a pressure standpoint, from a success standpoint, from a production standpoint, but we’ll see. Hey, Gregor, if you were at McDavid’s agent, would you tell him to wait? What’s the What’s the negative in waiting, Nick? Now, Nick, that’s a very fair question. What’s the negative in waiting? Um, I guess the negative would be that Conor McDavid every because in Edmonton, you’re not going to ask him every time because nothing’s changed, but every road city, he would be asked that question. Now, maybe he won’t care and he’ll be like, “Hey, I’m just going to give you the same answer. you could come up with the same answer. Guys, I got asked this last night in LA. Now I’m in San Jose. It’s the same thing. So that would be it, right? So I would counter it and say, so what would be the benefit? Because what’s going to change significantly between now and next May? So let’s say the Oders don’t win the cup because right there’s no guarantee they’ll win the cup. I guess he could leave, but my question still remains, where is he going to go that gives him a clear, better chance to win? He would just chase the dream somewhere else. And maybe he wants to do it, but I’d be surprised. We’ll see. Now, are we going to get to 20 runs each in that Jays Cincinnati Reds game? You never know. Wait and see. Let’s get to Connor Hley. On behalf of Halley, Declan Cougar, Terry Ryan, all of our guests, thanks for you most importantly for listening and watching the show. We’ll talk to you tomorrow. Here’s a con, man. A sports 1440 update brought to you by 01 Hockey. Training that improves your game at 01. AIdriven treadmills, full ice drills, data back coaching will take your game to the next level. Sign up now at 01.ca. That’s zer o ne.ca. Good night. This is a sports 1440 update. The Evans have agreed to terms with offensive lineman Carter O’Donnell who spent the previous five years in the NFL with the Colts and the Cards. Ev acquired O’Donnell back in 2022 trading their first overall pick for the lineman and the fourth overall pick. The Calgary Flames made a change to Ryan Husk staff on Tuesday. Dave Lowry joined the team as an assistant coach while Brad Larson departs the organization for personal reasons. And in the NFL, Gabe Davis signing with his former team, the Buffalo Bills. They will join the team’s practice roster as he recovers from a torn miniscus. Major League Baseball Jays in action on top of the Reds 8 to6 right now. Elsewhere, you got the Mets on top of the Tigers six-2. Dodgers and Pirates tied at four apiece. The Red Sox have a 5-1 lead over the Guardians midway through the fifth and the Marlins trail the Nationals 52. Later tonight, Yankees in Houston, Rockies host the Giants. Got Orioles and Padres’s and the Rangers up against the Diamondbacks. Two games in the WNBA, both at 8. Valk and Liberty. And then the Fever in Phoenix taking on the Mercury. That’s going to do it for us here on the Jason Greger show. Coming up next, it’s Fox Sports Radio all night long. Tomorrow morning, live local coverage resumes 7 a.m. on the radio streaming and on YouTube with Kevin Caras. I’m Connor Hley. This has been a sports 1440 update. It is sports 144.
