Paige & Garrett Clark get down to business 👀 // The Nitty Gritty with Paige Spiranac

Paige & Garrett Clark get down to business 👀 // The Nitty Gritty with Paige Spiranac

Welcome Garrett Clark of @gmgolf / @GoodGood to the first episode of my new series, The Nitty Gritty! We’re really getting into it today, chatting about things like how much money we make and the most famous person to slide into our DMs 👀

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Hello everyone. It’s Paige and welcome back to my new series called Getting Down to the Nittygritty with Paige. And oh wait, we decided on that’s what it is. That’s the name. I thought it was good, right? Working tile. Comment down below if you think there’s a better name for it. But my very first guest, the one and only Garrett Clark. Yay. Thank you for having me. I’m honored. I’m honored. Thank you. So the very first question and we are going to ask some very difficult tough questions today. Can you talk about the Karina situation? How much money do you make? Uh Grant has become so successful. Most famous person that slid in your DMs. Hopefully you’ll be able to clear the air on some things. Yeah. I don’t know if I like this. I don’t know if I like this. That was some easy ones, too. Okay. Very first question. What was the hardest part of starting Good Good. Oh. Oh. Which was originally originally Bro five, bro. Oh gosh. Okay. Okay. Wow. Okay. So, we’re going We’re throwing it way way back. Yeah. All right. Be prepared to clip this video like crazy. Okay. So, hardest part of starting Good. Good. I think I would have to go back to row five. I would say like going through I think what you felt like was going to be a big opportunity and a big success in a company and having it kind of fall through. I think that was just a big shot to our freaking hearts. Like me, Matt, and Steve. I remember. How old were you when that all happened? So you guys were babies. Yeah, I was 19, Steve was 20, Matt was like 19, 20. And all of us like didn’t go to college. I dropped out. Sharf dropped out, Steve dropped out. Everybody was like, “All right, we’re putting all of our eggs in this basket. Obviously, things happened. It didn’t work out.” But I think that was the biggest hurdle for us to get over when we were approached to start Good. Cuz our first reaction was absolutely not. We all were like instantly absolutely not. We’re not doing this again. Like we found out this doesn’t work. We want to do this more, you know, on our own. And u I think that was the biggest hurdle. But after taking some time, I remember me, my cousin Micah, went down to Dallas. We had a meeting with uh who were going to be our investors and partners to start up Good uh Kendrick, etc. You know, um we sat down and they kind of they mapped it out for us in a way that I hadn’t heard golf YouTube be talked about. And I thought it was really cool because the way they mapped it out was, hey, you guys are so good at what you guys do in the content space is what they were, you know, kind of getting at. But we’re really good at what we do, which is the business space and creating an actual brand that can live longer than any individual. And I think just seeing this and knowing that they had kind of done it before in other aspects um and other uh you know companies and ventures in the social media space it started to like all right this is this is yeah it’s starting to make a little bit more sense to us and there’s a better chance that we actually do it. But I yeah that was the biggest hurdle once we got over that honestly just getting over the fact that we just went through a big business breakup for us that young which was your very first time which was our very first time and then like it probably wasn’t even 3 months before we started having maybe four months before we started having more conversations about starting this new thing like wow this is happening so fast but I don’t know if that’s I think that’s more of a mental hurdle I don’t know if there’s like been any other crazy things I think with any business figuring out contracts in the beginning of it is so important and it’s just like going to be a little bit of a hassle. You have so many people involved. So, I think that was stressful. I remember for like a month straight where you’re going back and forth with lawyers, this this and this, maybe we want to format the business like this or do we want to do it this way? That was a big hurdle as well. And once we got off to the races, it was pretty easy. Do you think this next question, will you ever leave? Good. Good. Yes. No, I can’t. It April fools. There’s your clip. Yeah. No, I’m I’m gone tomorrow. Um, no, no, I I I think Good over the next, you know, 3, four, five years starts changing forms a little bit and I think it progresses and like I said, our goals almost die. Our our goal has always been to like formulate a business bigger than our ourselves to where one day this like lives on. Yeah. And you just walk into, you know, in 15 years ideally some random person walks into a Dick Sporting Goods and sees a cool polo and they don’t know it’s good good and they just buy it. Yeah. You know, I think that’s a big big, you know, thing for us. Well, it’s your baby. I think a lot of people forget about that because I see this question all the time. When is Garrett going to leave? But I mean, you you built this. Yeah. Yeah. I I feel like just for that fact alone, it being like everything to me, I could never just be like, “Hey guys, I’m fully gone.” Absolutely not. Yeah, you heard it here first. [Music] So, my next question is, do you get frustrated when people compare you to Grant and his success after leaving Good? No. I mean, I think I I respect Grant a lot. I think like Well, first off, I mean, Grant has become so successful on his own and that’s why I’m just like I think it’s so cool to see cuz I just remember Grant like when I met him in 2018, 2019 and he was in college like I remember he was saying he was going to go like do some sort of car wash company after college or something like that. Yeah. And I was like, “This kid, like this guy is he’s so like he’s such a good person. Like he’s always smiling. He’s always happy. Like great golf swing.” And I remember I I flew him out to Dallas to play a match with me and Micah. And he just like just lit on fire. Like everybody in social, they just really liked him. And what I thought was really cool about Grant is when he was in good good he was like a learner. He was a good learner. And that’s what I respect about people is he was like soaking up every little piece of information he could and he was always asking questions which I thought was cool is like he clearly like developed a big passion for YouTube like very quickly once you’re happy to see how successful gosh yeah I think it’s awesome and I mean I think there is no comparison I think Grant is like in his own world right now like he’s in his own league he’s doing you know unbelievable things if you were offered a PGA tour exemption to play would you do it if you didn’t have the opportunity to film a YouTube video. It It would have nothing Yeah. Well, I guess that’s the hottest news in golf right now. It would have nothing to do with filming for me. Yeah. Um obviously I would want to film it if I was doing it, but like I would just I would simply turn it down cuz I know I’m nowhere good enough and I would probably get dead last. Okay. That would be the reason I would turn it down. So you would do cuz you’re you’d be scared. Yeah, absolutely. But I would admit that like I would be freaking terrified. Do you think he made the right decision by turning down the decision? I think so. I think so. I mean, but I also don’t think there was a wrong or right decision. I think what I uh I posted something on Reddit. I think what the PGA Tour did was totally fair. And I think what Grant did was also totally fair. There’s a lot of like inside info that wasn’t released. I talked to Grant a lot on the phone about How we doing? I talked with Grant a lot on the phone about it and he hadn’t even spoke with the PGA Tour about this whole thing until like the very end. Yeah. But they hadn’t reached out to him at all. It was the Barracuda. So, it was like the Barracuda was the ones that were wanting him to come out and obviously they want the promo and they want the, you know, good traction around the event, but he didn’t get to talk to the PJ tour until basically they’re like, “Hey, you can’t film it.” Yeah. But again, like I said, I don’t blame the PJ tour. I I don’t think they should bend their rules for certain people. Like me and Grant did a prom forever ago for CJ Cup. And I remember we had to jump through hoops, leaps and bounds to even get like 10 10 minutes, 15 minutes of the video approved outside the ropes. And so another like misconception around that was Grant wasn’t going to bring a whole team of videographers. He was going to have one video guy. So I think there’s like so many different I was reading everybody. Yeah. Yeah. I’m like guys, there’s no there’s no right or wrong here. Grant simply did not want to do it cuz he wasn’t going to be able to film video. Who can blame him? But who can blame the PJ tour? It’s like I’ll say this last thing. Um I think where people were getting confused was they’re like people work years and years and years for something like this in this opportunity. I agree. Grant no longer works for competitive golf. He doesn’t want to play golf professionally. He doesn’t want to play professionally. He doesn’t want to play competitive. That’s not his dream. That’s a lot of other people’s dreams. And I respect everybody who has that dream. Yeah. And I would say if it was his dream, he would be so stupid to not take that opportunity. Do you think that it’s fair that they give out sponsor invites to people who don’t want to play professionally if that’s not their goal? No. I I think that’s why would they? I think it makes sense for the sponsor of the event. It’s like you want to bring traction around the event, but in my opinion, I would feel bad like I’m taking somebody’s spot who actually deserves it and needs it. Yeah. Yeah, cuz when I first got an invite, I wanted to play professionally and so that’s why I said yes to doing it and it turned into this massive controversy. So, people were mad at you for doing it. Very, very mad for taking someone’s spot. And I was like, well, at that time, I didn’t think that people cared that I was playing an LE event and I tried to do everything the right way to not piss anyone off and this was a dream of mine. Now, I would never take it because I’m not trying to actively play professionally, but it was a massive, massive controversy and everyone was very, very upset. And you shouldn’t have gotten Well, especially since you were trying to play professionally. That’s stupid that anyone would get mad. But think about like all the people that are mad at Grant now for the reason of him not taking it. Would probably be mad if he did take it and they’d be saying the same thing. I think he was going to be mad about everything. There was no way he was going to win. If he played in it, he was going to miss the cut most likely. Yeah. and everyone would be like, “He took somebody’s spot. Why would he do that?” And then he didn’t play it and they’re like, “Why didn’t you do it? It’s everybody’s dream to play in PJ tour.” It’s like, it’s funny to read the internet. Like, it is really funny. Yeah. Can you talk about the Karina situation? Gosh. So, were were you officially together or was it just like a fun little fling? Um, we were exclusive for a second there. Okay. She wasn’t my girlfriend. I don’t know how to say. It’s weird. So, exclusive but not girlfriend. You know what? You know what a situationship is. Don’t act like you don’t. Don’t act like you don’t. Okay. A fun little situationship. A situationship situation. And And here’s what I’ll say about situationships. I think they’re dumb. So, cuz you’re in limbo the entire time. And it’s like if you just can’t either make the decision to not be with them or commit, then you just shouldn’t be together. That’s how I feel about situationship. I just think situationships in general are dumb. Um, do you get frustrated when your fan base will continually bring up past flings? No, it’s it’s my fault. Yeah, I’m the one who brought it on camera, so absolutely not. There was a co So, I will say this, there was one time cuz Gray, my last girlfriend and I, Grace, dated for a little over a year. She was at an event and there was people like in the crowd that kept yelling like do it for Karina and stuff like Karina blah this that was the only time and I was just like I I didn’t give him I didn’t give him a reaction. I just I one I felt bad for my girlfriend and two I was like I kind of dug myself this hole. Will you ever make your next relationship public after what has happened? Um ideally no. Yeah. I mean, I ideally I meet a beautiful girl outside of the social media space that maybe doesn’t have anything to do with what I do and live happily ever after. And have three kids, three kids, get married. So, I mean, genuinely, the next three kids and then get married. Wow. Guys, guys, no, I want to get married then have three kids. But I do like the next girl that I date, I want like I want that to be. And are you single or in a relationship? I’m single. Very ladies. No, no women following me. So, bunch of 60-year-old men. Well, if you’re curious, there you go. To all the 65year-old men out there that are still single, hit me up. They are curious. I’m sure everyone is dying to know how much money do you make. Uh, we need to think of like a I think we need to think of a a good way of answering this, you know, like I or asking a question cuz I’m not going to just tell you how much money I make. Okay. Okay. It’s tough. I could do a higher or lower maybe. I don’t know. I got one. So, there was um someone posted something on X the other day and it said that would you rather have the career of Keith Mitchell who has made about $23 million or the career of Grant Horvette who has made about the same amount of that in 10 years. And I think people assume that influencers make more than they do. What do you have to say about that? I think it depends on how you format the your money. My thing is I would take the pro golfer route if I was just relying on my AdSense from YouTube alone. Yeah. Because you just don’t know. That can go up and down and fluctuate all over the place. I think they said Keith Mitchell was ranked like 70th. Okay. The 70th best golf content creator will not sniff $23 million in 10 years. They won’t sniff a million dollars in 10 years. No. It’s so hard to make money as a content creator. And I think people don’t actually realize that like what you were saying. No, they would. They would sniff a million dollars. I’d take that back. But they wouldn’t. But you’d have to hustle for it. Like you’d have to really explore all different avenues. And so people are like, “How much do you make?” Well, it’s it’s one it’s probably inconsistent. Like you probably have some consistency with brand deals, but then a lot of it is based off of like the views that you get. The last two years have been pretty consistent. I’ll say like when I say like how you make your money is so important for me. It’s like I’m in a long-term investment right now with Good or it’s like we just sold part of our company obviously. You know, I barely sold I mean I don’t even know if I should say this. I didn’t I I want to be in Good for a long time. Obviously, I never want to be out of Good. So, it’s like I didn’t really sell much of equity at all, but one day, you know, Good’s worth 500 million. You’re hoping that that’s the your long-term strategy. That’s the long term. But as far as the short term, it’s it’s definitely I would pick like Grant Horbat’s career over Keith Keith Mitchell’s career all day without question. A lot of people were picking that. I would which I was surprised with because he’ll make more money. I I I can almost guarantee that. Okay. I think this is a better comparison though, Grant Horvat compared to Scotty Sheffller. You got like let’s say Scotty Sheffler. That’s what I’m saying. Like if you compare like the number let’s say just for like purposes let’s say that Grant Horvat is the number one golf content creator at least top five then let’s compare it to you know number one or two or three in pro golf you would pick Scotty’s career over Grant then if that was the question by far. Yeah because you’re making so much money so much more money. Yeah. If you take number one, and it’s also like Scotty Sheffler is going to leave behind history in the game that no YouTube golfer is going to do. Like his impact on the game of golf is going to be way greater than any of us. Just think that bubble’s going to burst with YouTube golf. Um I I don’t know if like saying the bubble’s going to burst is the right terminology. I think there will be ups and downs and I have a feeling there’s going to probably be a decline after some point in the next probably 3 years if I had to guess. I don’t know. I hope not. I really hope watching our videos and thank you. I’m I’m going to keep grinding. I hope it doesn’t happen. But everything’s a fad anymore. Like any YouTube vlogger that you’ve seen. Well, it’s really interesting because Yeah, that’s so true. But it’s like people were all about PJ tour and professional golf and then YouTube golf exploded and then all of a sudden YouTube golf was like the cool, you know, thing and then I think it’s going to then shift back to professional golf. But it’s always just going to be shifting back and forth of what people think is cool and what’s not cool. I’m shocked so many people think YouTube golf is cool. To be honest, it’s still very mindboggling to me cuz I’m just, you know, anybody else could go do this. They could pick up a camera and film it as well and try and do it well. And that to me is like it’s just a crazy thing to comprehend. It’s like it’s just me and an inanimate object playing golf and a million people are watching it. Are you kidding me? Like this is insane. It’s crazy to think about sometimes. I know it’s mindboggling. So I never I want to say this one thing. I’ve never once taken it for granted because I know how fast YouTube can go and I know it can go it can go very quick. I’ve I mean you’ve seen it in every different niche in YouTube has come and gone. And so every day I’m very thankful and grateful to even have like the audience I have. Well, it’s so funny cuz I get asked a lot like who do you like or dislike within the industry and I always say that you’re one of my favorites because you do have that attitude. I think that when you receive so much validation, it does start to like change the way that you think about yourself and your impact in society. and you’re so humble and you have every reason to not be and you’ve always just stayed so grounded and you are so appreciative of this opportunity and I always tell people that. I appreciate that. That actually means a lot. Yay. Well, you as well. Thank you. Yeah. Oh, sorry. What is going on over here? They’re landing. So, yeah, they’re just dropping people off at the course. So, at Liberty National where we’re at today, um you can take a helicopter in or you can take the ferry in or you can drive in. So, they’re doing a helicopter drop off right now. Holy crap. That’s insane. Cool stuff here at Liberty National. Yeah, that’s awesome. Shout out to Liberty National for having us. Um, yeah. Well, I appreciate that. That means a lot, actually. [Music] So, I heard that you faked the hole in one on the par4. Is that true or not? It was so fake. It was so fake. You just dropped it up there. No, no, no. You know, that was unbelievably real. Um, we had three camera angles on it. It was It almost seemed like too good to be true. So, I can’t blame anyone who ever said like, “This has to be faking it.” Faking it. But, I mean, come on. You think we’re that good of actors? Absolutely. I’m going to grab my ball and then we can keep talking. But, that reaction is so wrong. Yeah. I mean, there’s nothing you can you can’t make that up. You’ve never like because it is a little convenient I must say that you guys will do an apparel drop like Oh, we always do it. So you like will film in advance, do something cool happen. You’re like, “Okay, we’re going to try to capitalize on this.” So Oh, absolutely. It can look a little bit like, “Oh, we faked it to get attention. It’s all the way up there. Look at that.” Yeah. Wow. What a shot. No, I’ll be the first to say it. We absolutely are going to capitalize on that. Um, we just had a It’s genuine though. It’s not fake. Yeah, it’s completely genuine. We just had our road trip and so this is kind of funny. We had our Canyon drop or collection that’s going live and we wanted it to go live the day that Puby’s hole in one gets posted cuz he made it hole in one and so we pushed it to make sure it’s on the right date and then we’re going to do, you know, 20% off the poll that he was wearing. Marketing. Oh yeah, marketing. Do you edit a lot any of your stuff? like edit like how many reputs or re probably on average like about six or seven around. I’m kidding. I’m kidding. Ryder. Yeah. Come in. This is for my channel. You got to as the editor, how much editing does it take to make a good video for Garrett in terms of like what? Like like redoss or like No, I can honestly say I can honestly say I we haven’t redone anything. There’s been nothing issue. Yeah, I don’t play very well on camera very often. So, if I did, then it would be sus like Dylan Block, but I didn’t say that. Sorry. I’m kidding. I’m just feeding into the meme. I love you, Dylan. I love you. How many actually do that? Cuz it is wild and you see it during like the Creator Classic or these events where you have to keep score and sometimes like it is harder to keep score and you do get nervous, but it is really interesting. Yeah. If anyone that’s if anyone I’m the one to and I actually did get a lot of backlash on that cuz they’re like oh this is what happens when you can’t re hit a shot. I’m like dude I’ve posted I shot 89 at Whistling Straits and posted it like but I’ve also shot 65. I post everything classic though you also made like a 10 on it was a nine. Thank you. Oh sorry sorry. Close. And you still didn’t play that bad with a nine. No. Yeah. I mean it was fine. I think I was what six or seven or six or six or seven over? I think so. [Music] Who is the most famous person that slid in your DMs? Guy or girl? Doesn’t have to be like a like a girl thing. Ooh. Guy or a girl? Yeah, probably Nile Horn. That was That’s a good one. Yeah. I mean, as far as like who loves golf? Yeah. Just somebody who’s like DM’d me. I think that was pretty cool. It’s like most famous person you’ve DM’d. Oh, the actually I just want to apologize to any girls who have received a DM from Garrett that was actually from me. We need some backstory. We’re in Arizona and like I’m newly single and so Paige is like trying to wingman me. I also I I wanted to fang girl over like these influencers that I’ve liked for such a long time and I was like, “Oh, I’ll slide in their DMs as Garrett and see if we can get any type of reaction.” And you was interesting. One, you got no zero. I dude, you realize how much of a shot to my confidence that was. I’ve never slid into a girl’s DMs like almost ever. I don’t know if I have. Maybe once or twice. That hurt. That really hurt. hurt me too cuz I was crafting up these amazing messages and they were not getting any response and we were talking and you were like no with me. Um we were talking and we were like no you just have to say hi and I’m like that’s so lame. Girls want something that’s long. Turns out they don’t. Yeah. This generation they want just a hey or an emoji. Yeah. And I was coming in hot. You were and you got no result. No. No. No. And Paige was asking him like, “Do you want to learn how to golf or something like that?” Like, which is I guess it’s really cuz that’s what I always get in like my DMs. It’s like, “Oh, teach me how to golf” and stuff, but you never Yeah. Let’s think about this logically here, Paige. I thought I thought it might work in the opposite, dude. And I think we might have had better luck if I just said, “Hey, like with their name and a little smiley face.” 100%. That’s what like on a dating app that’s what I would So I want to personally apologize to anyone who has received a DM from I hope some of them see that because that was all me. That was all me. We should go through them. [Music] We’ve changed scenery here just for a little bit. Um, yeah, you don’t have to name names, but what is the worst experience you’ve had with another golf content creator? Ah, you want me to help you with your answer? We film with someone that wouldn’t let us post a couple of the videos. Oh my god. Oh, that’s a good one. Yeah, tell that. One of the guys from Neelk and I filmed and I want to say, how many videos did we film that he wouldn’t let us post cuz he didn’t play well enough? I think one or two. At least one. It was at least one, maybe two. I can’t remember. But it was like that was so frustrating because like you take time out of your day. You obviously like expensive. It It costs money and I don’t know. I think that one was the only bad experience that I’ve truly had filming content with another creator. You’re limits. Yeah. I I haven’t really had any bad experiences. Really? No, not really. Okay. What is your best experience? Ooh, trying to think of another con. You know what? Anytime we do stuff with the lads, Jason Day’s group, we have the best time. They’re such a good group of guys. They are. And we get along very well with them. It’s natural chemistries. It’s not that like chemistry is forced ever, but there are times when it’s just less good and you can feel like a little bit of awkwardness. Like it’s always going to show through fine on camera, but you’re like, “Okay, this is we got 18 holes of this.” And it’s like a little like we don’t know each other like that yet. But no, the lads was great. They’ve always How sick was Jason Day’s backyard. Unbelievable. That’s the coolest. Like like that’s a dream for any golfer. What’s your favorite good memory? Uh probably Matt’s hole in one. His first hole in one. That’s tough to beat. Made a lot of good memories recently on a road trip. I would say like I’ll look back at that road trip as we all were saying when we were on the road trip, but I’ll look back at it and I will think, “Wow, that was those were the good old days.” I I will the good old days. I I I truly believe it. What is your worst experience with Good Bro Five? I mean, that doesn’t count as good. We won’t count that as good. Um probably when Micah and then Grant left. Yeah. I mean, that’s impossible to beat. That was just such a tough time and it was like very hard for probably three to four months. I mean, it’s also kind of got over it, but I’ll never you’ll never recover from something like that because you just you go from being basically seeing somebody every day like you’re almost in a relationship when you’re in business with somebody and if you’re you know friends with somebody and then also Mike is like my cousin. So, that one will that one will always be a little mark. But I’m happy for both of them. So, who do you think will leave good good next? I honestly like honest to God I don’t thank anyone. Um crew feels pretty solid. Yeah. I mean I’m thinking to the road trip like the vibes were just so good. We have a good combo of people, good personalities. People clash well right now. I mean there’s always going to be ups and downs too as every sports team or friend group would. You’ll have arguments every once in a while. You have confrontation. But if you can get through that, that’s when you know you have something special. We’ve been able to get through anything. So, who do you think, excluding actual pros, is the best YouTube golfer? I’m so I can’t say George Bryan. No, I mean, if they’re like still actively playing on, it’s Brad count. Donkey. Oh, yeah. I would say Brad. He But does he count as I guess so because he’s not actively playing on Yeah, he’s not actively. He is more of a YouTube golfer. I’d say probably Brad Donkey. Yeah. Or Sean. It’s between It’s between Brad or Sean. The thing about Brad is that he hits it so far, but also so straight. Yeah. I don’t get it. And he didn’t used to be that way. When I met him, he had to drive. Yep. It’s kind of like me, but he got rid of him. Now he’s a freaking dog. Well, thank you so much, Garrett, for joining my channel. And I hope you guys enjoyed as well. Don’t forget to leave a comment down below, like today’s video, check out my video with Garrett. We did a fun scramble on his channel. and subscribe. What What else did the YouTuber say? What do I need to up my game with? They would probably tell you comment. Yeah, you should probably say subscribe. That’s a cool subscribe to her if you haven’t. You didn’t engagement bait at all. Oh, tell me how to do that. So, you should have like asked a question for the com like the people viewing to answer in the comments. Okay. Like for me, when I do my public course, we’re always like, “Where do you want us to go next?” Okay. What would be because like we we genuinely are interested in where to go, but it’s also like which guest should I have next on my channel for this series? Comment down below, like today’s video, subscribe to my channel, and I’ll see you next time. And also link all of Garrett’s socials down below so you can check his stuff out. Bye. Thanks for having me. See you guys.