2025 NFC North Predictions | Lions, Packers, Bears & Vikings Full Schedule Breakdown

The NFC North is one of the most wide-open divisions in football — and we’re breaking it all down.
In this episode of the West Coast Draft Podcast, Beau and Rob go game-by-game through the 2025 schedules for the Lions, Packers, Bears, and Vikings. Who takes control of the division? Who surprises? And who’s facing a rough road ahead? Let’s get into the matchups, rivalries, and predictions.

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We are live. Welcome. Welcome back. Cowboys. How about them Cowboys? Look what I brought. Look what I I brought the prop. No way. You know, I’ve actually got a Cowboys I got a Cowboys jersey. Maybe I should have worn that. Um I bought as a joke one year. I should have worn it today. Should have You should have missed. Oh, I can’t believe they actually did it, man. I was driving to practice. They did it. We genuinely We genuinely have to go. That’s why the Cowboys. We genuinely have to go and reevaluate the Cowboys. Yes, we do. And the Packers. We already had them in the five and 12. And the Packers Packers are NFC North anyways, but yes, we have to reevaluate the Packers entirely. Um, how’s it going to all the people in the chat? Jerry Jones has Jerry Jones has officially lost it. I I I can’t believe it. Mhm. Mhm. No, it’s it’s genuinely trading him now when there’s like only one suitor, only two firsts, and Kenny Clark can never doubt Pretty Ricky again. He was He’s been saying it for days, man. Mhm. Mhm. He’s been saying it for days. Mike was spotted in the airport. Mike was spotted in the airport. That’s right. That’s right. Oh, your boy. His agent. His agent. Oh, Dave. Get up. Forget the name of the agent. My master. Another master class. Yeah. Yep. Yep. He did it. They did it. A genius. Uh too bad that uh him and the the Blackburns don’t get along. But uh but hey, you know what? It didn’t hurt the Bengals in the end because they got D. Diggins cuz Diggins fired him because he was uh in in in uh in the words of people I’ve heard negotiating in bad faith because he was still mad about the Jesse Bates negotiation. So um there you go. There you go. But not my problem. That’s the Cowboys problem. I can’t believe it, man. Sounds like Seahawks never even talked about it. Yeah. No, honestly, which is interesting because, you know, Aiman Dirty knows him very well. We we had the cap space, you know, we could have made that we could have made that deal, but it it seems pretty clear to me that Mike McDonald does not want a diva like him on his team like uh so this was interesting. Uh telling laying on the train table what Mike McDonald is like. H you they don’t want uh No, no, no. They don’t want his antics like with his podcast and idiots idiocy. So Tyler Lockett uh spoke recently about what playing for Mike McDonald was like last year and he said um you know Tyler Lockett’s a super nice guy so you can’t get much out of he’s media trained unlike JSN and he was like it’s very militaristic. I was like yeah that’s that sounds about right. Um, definitely a different vibe than than Peak for sure. And it’s like this. I think one thing a lot of people are see talking about the Seahawks, especially in camp, is there’s no one there that doesn’t want to be there. Like DK didn’t want to be there and probably Gino and Tyler probably didn’t want to either. Uh, and it seems like it’s more bought in and it seems like Mike softened it a little bit as well, too. It does seem like he did that. Like he took the whole team off to Top Golf, you know, stuff like that. So, whereas last year like he took him to JBLM, I think, but uh yeah, he like that kind of thing tells me like even with all the connections that he had that like that staff has with Micah with Dirty and Lawrence and and Hankkins like did not even consider trading for Micah even with how talented he is. And what maybe it’s because they knew him that well. It’s because they knew him that well. No, exactly. That’s what I’m saying. That’s what I’m saying. What a culture change for Micah though. Green Bay to or Dallas to Green Bay. That’s a little different. I know there’s a little bit of a a tiff going on between um people in Dallas and people in Green Bay about like what was better because people are like, “Oh, you know, $40 million in uh in Dallas would have taken you far farther than 47 would in Green Bay because it’s Green Bay. What What are you to do?” And then they showed like a mansion in Green Bay versus a mansion in Dallas. The Green Bay one was so much bigger because I mean you only have to live in Green Bay for like for like a third of the year. That’s true. You can go live in literally anywhere else the rest of the year. Most NFL players in the offseason live in Florida or California or if they’re pretty guy they go back to the country. Like like I don’t know if I ever shared this funny Gay Zable story with you, but it was like he’s like, “Yeah, growing up in the summer I’d go out and throw rocks for fun.” It’s like that kind of guy goes back to the country, but everybody else goes to Florida or California or Texas. Texas is another one. But like I feel like most NFL players go train in those areas in the offseason. I feel like Yeah. I can’t believe such a blockbuster a week from uh the the season starting. Unheard of. Unheard of so funny. Jerry Jones is just like ego, man. Ego’s killed. His time is genuinely. And if you listen to if you listen to that press, well, a he calling him Michael Parsons, which is hilarious. What a It’s like you know what that tells me? It’s like that old uh segregated school standoff Jerry ain’t gone. Yep. Yep. Oh, and well that and um did he call him boy? Did he call him boy? I don’t remember. Yeah. Uh he might as well have. No, but at one point um and Stephven Jones was also there. he was trying to save him a couple times because they a reporter asked him about Micah Parsons like laying on the table like during the last preseason game. And at one point um uh Stephven Jones was like, “Yeah, well, we’re not going to make decisions based on that.” But Jerry cut him off. or sorry, what what was it was uh Stephen Jones was like starting to say like, “Yeah, yeah, we’re just not gonna and like saying we’re not going to make decision based on something like that.” Um I shouldn’t we should post more shorts. But anyways, um instead he said, “Uh we don’t want to post our channel to the algorithm.” Sorry to interrupt. That’s the last thing we want. No, you’re good. Our No, our channel’s fire, dude. Our channel’s fire. Um, yeah. Honestly, genuinely all all caffeine, bro. All caffeine. Especially when the time when the time change happens. That That’s when it gets Oh, the time change is crazy. The time change is crazy when I’m like poding at 10 starting at 10:30. Um, that’s wild. But anyways, um, but anyway, so so he was like starting to say like, “Yeah, that’s not how we do things as in like we’re not going to make a decision based on something like that.” But Jerry cut him off and was like, “Yeah, that’s not how we do things with the Cowboys. Like, that’s not the type of behavior we endorse. We don’t We want all our players engaged on the sidelines.” Dude, Stephen is trying to save you right now, man. Sticking his foot in his mouth. I like Stephen, man. Steven’s smart. Steven’s not this evil guy. Stephen Jones is the one who tra convinced Jerry to draft Zack Martin over Johnny. That’s what I was about to say. Steven’s been a is has been a much better voice for the Cowboys than Jerry ever has. When Jerry Croakkes, the Cowboys gonna be so much better run. Oh yeah. It’s the opposite of the Bengals who I genuinely think might be worse after Mike Brown. I mean, yeah, that’s that’s us with that’s us with Paul. I mean, I don’t think it’s gotten worse. I think I think the after Paul died, I think the big issue was Pete was so unchecked that Pete became just too big. But like Oh, yeah. But I don’t think Jod’s not a bad owner. But I mean, she’s a fine owner. She’s a fine owner. You know, I like her, but Paul was a Titan. Paul was a Titan. Got a question in the chat. Well, I I want to talk about the Browns real fast. Not the Brown, the Cleveland Browns. The Browns is in the Brown family. Uh, it’s actually crazy how the the the grandparents of the Blackburns are the the the football icon. One of the the central figures of American football, the great. One of the greats. If there was a football Mount Rushmore, Paul Brown would be on. Absolutely. and his son is incompetent and his granddaughter and her husband are incompetent and just bad. I’m gonna be honest, just bad people. Genuinely bad people. They’re they they do not negotiate in good faith. No, they I I don’t think Mike’s a bad person. I just think he’s straight up incompetent. I hate sports owners who are in it for money. Those are the worst. If I were a sport owner, I could do just f like and not just squeeze everything out of it, right? You know, I could do plenty fine by being an aggressive owner trying to win and not just try to squeeze every little penny out like semi do. Bengals get in the ring this year. That’s right, Nick. Don’t forget it. Hey, they got the best quarterback in the league, man. They got They do got the best quarterback in the league. Um, but on that note actually though because I was talking I was talking actually with my dad about this not too long ago. Um, it’s funny though that we talk about like the Bengals versus the Cowboys. Um, and this is the question I wanted to talk about here because you know this podcast has been discovered so gota got to start taking listener questions. Oh yeah. But um I I gotta say I gotta say the Bengals and the Cowboys have very similar issues as far as ownership goes and the fact that they drag on these negotiations and they all aren’t acting in good faith of the players most of the times. The difference though and why I no longer believe the Bengals most incompetent organization in football after today is the Bengals are the least valuable American football franch pro football franchise I should say. Is that true? American pro football. It is. Yeah. Of the 32. The Bengals are number. Wow. The Cowboys are the most valuable franchise in American professional sports in terms of pure liquid money and they st they they create their own problems. The Bengals problems, they create a lot of them, but a lot of them are also just due to the fact that they’re basically a mom and pop shop. the Cowboys causing problems is like if all of a sudden Disney stopped making movies because they act wanted to act poor. Like it’s just like it’s not reality. So it’s all incompetence in Dallas right now. Um I see a good question. Be fine. I I have a good question right here. Here we go. Oh yeah. What do we think of the Cardinals? So I I don’t know. We already talked about the We already talked about the Cards a bit. We got them going nine and eight. that was on our personally. Personally, I I’ll tell you how I feel about the Cardinals. I’m a Seahawks fan, so I know them pretty well. Uh the thing about them is I I just don’t even think about them. They’re just a total afterthought to me. Uh the Cardinals would be good when Kyler stops doing Kyler things and that won’t stop because it’s Kyler. Uh let’s see what I just think. Oh yeah, we might have to rethink that one. You know, we’ll rethink the entire going to be bad. The Card No, the Cardinals aren’t going to be bad. They could make the playoffs. The AFC is weak, but I just like I don’t see difference makers on there, you know? That’s just the thing. I’ve never been a big Marvin Harrison Jr. fan and I feel proven pretty right. I I’m a huge Buddha fan. Buddha Buddha is awesome. Uh Will Johnson, you know, Will Johnson, if if he can stay healthy, he’s a really good player. But like like your top two picks have huge injury issues right now with Will Johnson and Walter Nolan who’s on the pup. It’s like the Cardinals are just cursed. I’m I’m sorry. You know I you know Kyler just needs to grow up. Kyler needs to grow up. They’re a fine team. They’re just average and that’s why I I just think nothing of them actually. Go ahead. Sorry you off. That’s just that’s just how I forward No. Um, I just like this comment. Birds are very cool. Um, that actually when I f, this is crazy. When I first looked at my phone and saw the Seahawks rivalries uniforms, which we’ll talk about in a second, um, was in uh, third period and a hawk, a literal hawk landed on like the perch outside my flat. What an omen. What an omen. It was crazy, dude. It was actually insane. That’s cool. It was so cool. Um, he flew away before I could get a picture. I was a little Oh, that would have been so cool if you caught that. I know. I know. Uh, what about the Packers? Oh, we’ll talk about the Packers. Yeah, we’re doing the be all right. They’re doing the we’re doing the NFC North tonight. Uh, so we we’ll get to it. Although, I do want to talk about I want to talk about this question real fast. Oh, yeah. Is gonna do better? AFC because they have the quarterbacks. Yeah, that that’s no question for me. Now, here’s the thing. Top four kitties in the league are all NFC. And you could make the argument the top six. Honestly, here’s here’s the thing, though, though. Here’s like the theory I’ve had. You know, when it was the 2010s, and it was like the Patriots were consistently coming out of a worse AFC, excuse me. Um, they weren’t as beat up when it got to the Super Bowl. So, that’s true. Maybe being in the weaker conference helps. Yeah, I thought the Eagles were the Eagles walked through the playoffs. Other than the Ramscape, they walked through. So, there’s there’s some pretty good argument there. Yeah, that’s that’s one thing I kind of noticed because it felt like it felt like the NFC was on top in the uh late 2010s, you know, mid to late 2010s. Patriots were always coming out with uh but then the power shifted, you know, with like Wentz or not Wentz, no, with Momes, Burrow, Jackson, Herbert, all those guys coming in via stuff. Straoud Allen Allen Strad now. I mean, yeah, there’s just no gen Yeah, genuinely. I think you can make an argument that between Burrow, Herbert, uh Allan Jackson, Mahomes, and Stra, not in that order, obviously, just as I thought of them, uh the top six QBs in the league are all in the NFC. Yeah, absolutely. Not a doubt. Like the NFC’s B Herz, Daniels, Prescott, Stafford when he’s healthy. Stafford died weeks ago. Stafford died weeks ago. Go Kyler. Yeah. I mean, when like the best I mean, these aren’t like terrible, but it’s like, oh, wow. When the best when the best quarterback in the NFC is probably Jaylen Herz or maybe if Jaden Daniels makes a jump, it’s like jeez, that’s not good. Hey, FPJ. FPJ, baby. FBJ, let’s get How’s this for an Omen? I saw a Hawk and science eating a bird yesterday. Nice. Oh, there we go. Omen for the Seahawks. So, one one thing I want to uh I do after we do the jerseys, I do want to just Oh, wait. No, we’re saving No, never mind. Never mind. Because we’re saving that for the college football episode. Why would we do that? Never mind. Scratch that. Uh the games that were today, but no reason to because we’re doing that next week. So, never mind. Yeah, Tuesday. What do you think about what do we think about expansion of NFL franchise? I am against it. Uh I just don’t want more. Honestly, I I just don’t want more talent delution. Um, dividing the Cardinals and defeating We already have the New Orleans Saints. Dividing the What? Dividing the Cardinals, Tucson. I mean, I think I think the NFL really put in a lot of time and effort trying to see a scenario where international expansion, especially to London, could work. And I think they’ve come up to the fact that it won’t. And I think that’s why the international series has expanded to so many different countries because if they were ever gonna do an international team, it would be like Toronto. Oh yeah, Toronto. Yeah. I mean, it was kind of the Bills for a while. Yeah, exactly. I think they really wanted London. And I think they re and then they also learned like my uh bad questions. There’s no such thing as a bad question. It keeps No bad questions. No bad question. It keeps the discussion going. We love it. Yeah. No, I love this. I love it. It’s great questions. As as front of the pod, Rob Stton says very often when he goes like on other like whenever he makes uh goes on spots on like other channels or on the radio, they always ask him like, “Oh, what do you think about an NFL team in London?” It’s like, “Oh, suck. We’re all fans of different teams already.” Yeah, the time zones are tough enough, man. Imagine like having to like watch a London game. But but but the thing is like they’re like we wouldn’t want a London team because we already have our teams. We already we already have teams we’re fans of. I would That’s true. Imagine like all the all the London Seahawks fans all of a sudden get stuck with the Jaguars. Like Yeah. Oh god. Uh move to another city. H I think with the Vegas and LA moves. I think we’re done for a while. I not for not for a while. Maybe at some point. Well, so Cincinnati, they’re they they had some controversy this summer, but they got their stadium lease um extended by 10 years. So they’re not going any or 20 years. So they’re not going anywhere anytime soon. That’s the only one that And like Jacksonville is getting a new stadium bill. Tennessee is getting a new stadium bill. Buffalo’s getting a new stadium built. So I don’t see any coming up that could move. Yeah, those are like some of the big ones where Tennessee and Jacksonville and Buffalo were big ones, but they’re all getting new stadiums. I don’t I don’t really see that happening. Um, I think after LA, Jacksonville, everyone was for sure they were moving and then nope, never happened. After I mean, I don’t really see any really suitable cities for it right now. No, the Cardinals of China. Hey, you got the right colors. You got the right colors. You got the right colors. That’s right. Yeah. Red and yellow. Uh, yeah. Super wrestlers for football players. Um, they actually might they’d be good if a sumo wrestler a sumo wrestler walked on to Colorado State football a couple years ago and never did anything. Yeah, unfortunately. Hey, he’d be a great nose tackle. They could just never move him. But yeah, they couldn’t move. He can’t move the way they need him to. So, that’s fun though. That’s a fun thought. That’s interesting. At least move the Cardinals to China. Yeah, exactly. Yep. Yep. You nailed it. Well, you see what Do you see what sumo wrestlers did to Micah Parsons last Oh, that was funny. Yeah, that was funny. I mean, it’s just kind of a testament to like football players should play football, basketball players should play basketball, sumo wrestlers should sumo wrestle. It’s like all these people are like, “Oh, this guy could do this sport. This guy could do this sport.” When at the end of the day, a lot of There’s only one person There’s only one person that can do that. Do you know who it is? LeBron James. Yep. You nailed it. Yeah. I mean, everyone loves the LeBron high school tape, man. Yep. LeBron, I’ve told you many times about Pete Carol making LeBron a Seahawks jersey during the lockout. Mhm. Yep. The NFL be getting Paris, bro. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh let’s Yeah, let’s keep that. Let’s keep that uh uh international international international domestic domestic domestic. There you go. Um, I mean, yeah, I think the big expansion of international series to me is a signal that they they’ve shelved international. Uh, yeah, they like having their one-off games here and there. They could play a one-off game in China soon. I mean, the NBA’s doing one-off games in China, which that’s the NBA, but I don’t think I don’t think Asia has any interest in American football. Any interest. I didn’t think that uh uh Germany did. No, no, that’s not true. Germany did. Um, Australia does cuz they have they have a Ireland. I mean, they keep having uh they keep having uh college football games out there, man. What about Spain, though? Spain’s going. Oh, Spain. Spain. Yeah, Spain’s a weird one. Yes, American football. I feel like that works for the German mind. I feel like that works. I think it works in London. I don’t think it works in France. I don’t think it would work in Yeah, they haven’t put an international game in Paris yet. I’m sure they will. Imagine a shot panning down from the Eiffel Tower for a football game. That would be cool. That would be really cool. I I remember Maron just walking around in uh Berlin uh for the Seahawks international game. It’s like whenever the Seahawks need like a man on the ground media, they just just always go to Marawn and he never disappoints. They black out. I’m not going to expose you, but I think you’re too young to make bets. Hey, you’re in a state where it’s legal. Not me. It’s legal, but you have to be 21. Oh man. I ain’t going to expose you, but I know for a fact you only ain’t 21. Um, just I saw a bird did back flip. That’s a good That’s a good omen for the Seahawks, too. Let’s go. Let’s go. All right. Speaking of Seahawks, let’s get to the rivalry jerseys. Let’s get to the I cannot believe not a single one leaked. The the Dolphins leaked last night. I I think it was meant to though, was it? Maybe. Maybe. But hold on. Okay. So, earlier today, I put together my ranking of all eight of these. Oh gosh, I’m on the spot, man. Yeah. So, all right. I I’ll just get my Wait, I want to go from eight. I want to go from eight to one, and I’ll explain my logic for each one. And you might You’re probably going to disagree with me. Yeah, eight’s probably Seahawks. No, no, eight is No, Seahawks are pretty high up, actually. Oh, really? Eight’s the Ravs. hates the Rams. I It’s stupid. Why Why is there still blue? Why is there still blue? There’s no reason for them still have blue. They should black and yellow. LA Knights. That’s all you had to do. It was right there. It was very easy. They screwed it. I I don’t get keeping the blue on the sleeves. It looks out of place. It looks unnatural. They even have a gradient from black to blue. Oh, stop it with the gradients, Rams. Unbelievable. They they had the easiest con I think they had the easiest concept and I think they fumbled it. Actually, I think Miami did and they fumbled it. I actually didn’t. So, I thought I don’t I don’t hate it. I don’t hate it. I don’t really hate any The Rams was the only one of these that they left something better on the table. They left something better on the table from So, it’s funny actually that that blackout here uh says that the Bills is is looks good and it doesn’t look bad, but it’s my number seven. My favorite part of the Bills is the logo on the sleeve. That is cool. The logo on the sleeve is cool. Hold on, let me get a picture of that. The logo on the sleeve is pretty sick. I will say that’s cool. That’s cool. Um, but here, let me back up here so that we can see the full jersey. The overall jersey, it’s not that it looks bad and I like where the the cold front I like the idea behind it. I’m just not very inspired by it. I think the white It’s very raidery. It’s very The white out concept is very overdone in my opinion. Yeah, it’s very raidery. Yeah, looks like I do like the helmet stripe though. I do love that helmet stripe. That helmet stripe is good. They got the little things right. They got the little things right. They didn’t get the big things right. Number seven or Yeah. number six, the Jets. I think it it’s honestly when I first looked at it, I thought it was very generic, but the more I looked at it, the more I liked it. Just like kind of the individual details. I don’t know. Why Why is Why is the whole identity of the Jets freaking Gotham? You’re not Batman. You’re not They should be Justin Fields is Batman. Justin Fields is him. Him. Um I do like the font though. I like that they kind of did a little different font, like a little gothic font. That’s cool. I do like that they changed the font up cuz I like that is good. That is a unique font in the NFL. I do like that. Yeah. So, I think it’s a lot of So, when I first looked at it, I thought it was going to be my least favorite and then I saw all the little pieces come together and I think it ended up being a more than the sum of its parts at the end. Your Batman. Oh, we got Batman in the chat. Let’s go. They got Batman in the chat. The Batman. The Batman. The Batman. All right, number five. Here we go. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? The Niners. Um, and I think on its own, if I just saw this and this was it. Yeah, I think it looks pretty good. I’m not going to lie. I think it looks good. But two things. A, Blackout is overdone. Let’s be honest. And they already did it. They already did that. And that was going to be my number two. The Niners already tried a blackout. Now this does look better. This looks better than the blackout they tried in like the mid2010s. Definitely looks better than that. I like that they’ve actually got gold in there now cuz they didn’t before. But I don’t know. It when I see it, I just think about I don’t know how that font’s going to look like on TV. I kind of I I like it because it reminds me of like the like the the sort of old west like Yeah. I like it. But you’re right in the sense that I think it looks good in the photo. I don’t know how it looks on TV. So number seven here or not number seven, number four is the Dolphins. When I first saw these I was like that’s kind of generic cuz it’s kind of the same thing as the Niners. Like oh every team is a blackout. Um, I actually think if they changed this black and just made it like a navy, I would like this so much more. Like this might be like my number one. It would look like the Kraken on on this. It would look a little like the Kraken. And I just that one small tweak that I would have made and I think it would have looked so so much better. Um, but I still like it. I think the light blue, the aqua, sorry, it’s the aqua. It pops really really on the black and I think the orange Just make the black darker. Make the black darker or lighter. That that that in between. I don’t know. Yeah. The helmet I do not like. The helmet does not look good. Number three is your boy’s Seahawks. Wow. I’m surprised you have it that high. So, and I I like it. It’s just I think the reason it’s not it it it’s so working ducks, man. It’s so ducks. It is. Um, when I first saw it, I did not like it. I will say that when I first saw it, I was like not not a fan. I think the iridescent helmet and the iridescent. It’s a really good concept. It’s a really good idea. The helmet The helmet makes it for me. The helmet makes it for me. The shoulder I know it’s supposed to be sound waves. I don’t know, man. I I it’s just it’s Oregon ducks, dude. So or ducks coded. But at the same I’ll get into more of my feelings later. The the iridescent helmet, the the numbers I think saves it. Number two is the card, which I know a lot of people are putting this in number one. And it is really really nice. I will say that. Um it’s also Oregon Ducks. It’s also Oregon Ducks coded, but I think it’s also kind of Arizona State coded because they’ve also got that kind of speckled jersey for one of their jerseys and I think more Arizona State because well the freaking word Arizona is written across the front. So, uh yeah, the colors are more ASU. So, I love that they threw the flag on there. Finally touch. Um I like the helmet. Is there a good shot of the helmet on here? There might not be a good shot of the helmet. Um, ah, there isn’t, but they got a cool where it’s like the cardinal. It starts its regular colors and then I know we don’t like gradient, but it’s actually a pretty nice use of gradient where it goes to the more of the deserty tone at the top. I mean, the worst gradient one is always the the Jags. Yeah. Oh, no. It’s nowhere near that, though. Uh, so, and I like that the copper uh the copper touch. No. Oh, that’s the that’s my favorite part of it. That is my favorite part of it. Yeah. So, I think I came away really impressed with the Cardinals. And then this is my hot take because I know this is not many people’s favorite, but I think the Pats killed it, man. I love the Pats ones. Um, I think if I was going to make one change, I’d throw some element of red into the logo up here because the red on this shade of blue pops beautifully. I love the way the red shows up on this shade of blue. Um, I love the stars. I love like the uh because that what they were going for with the inspiration was like Boston Harbor fishermen, that sort of thing. So, you can see there’s like netting in the in the shoulder stripes there. Oh, that’s cool. I didn’t know that they got the the six stars that represent the six states of New England. Um, obviously the NE on the shoulder. Um, I’m so sick of all the dots on numbers on jerseys. I do not like that from Nike. So, the dot the dots on their own I’m not a fan of because again I agree the dots are um weird but I like that it’s almost a call back to their 90s jerseys that were like all the way striped like flag. It’s kind of a call back to that which I kind of like. What I meant by that is just Nike’s trend of doing that. Oh, no. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. But I like I I kind of I wish it was more of like a pattern versus just dots, but I can kind of see why they did it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Eight through one. Eight through one. All right. All right. Number eight for me. It’s also the Rams. I think it’s just bland. Not much going on there. It just doesn’t look like they did too much. Um No. This is like they they they turned it in last night at like 115. feels like some of your students. Yeah. Uh number seven for me is the Dolphins. Uh okay. All right. That’s a pretty big difference already. I just think they could have done better. I I I just love the Miami Vice aesthetic. So, I was that’s what I was hoping for. So, um that’s just that’s just, you know, maybe I’m just being a hater for that. Number six is the Jets. They got cool things going on. They have cool things going on, but the color is just too drab. It’s too drab. It is very drab. I will say that. It makes me think of those Black Friday games at Metife Stadium that are so gray and c and overcast and like, wow, those jerseys are going to look horrible for that game. Um, number five is the Patriots. Uh, I’m not as big of a fan as it. And I’ll tell you why. You know what it looks like to me? What’s that? It looks like a Little League World Series regional jersey, but the NE I could kind of see that. I could kind of see that. Um, the NE. Yeah, it just doesn’t do too much for me. Just doesn’t do too It’s a It’s also a little drab. That’s That’s the thing. Next on the list is the Ners. I like a blackout, but I don’t know how it’s going to look on TV. I love a blackout. That’s my high school colors, so maybe, you know, and I had a jersey that looked like that other other than the font. Other than the font, our Blackhawk jerseys look like that. Um, next for me, what do I have left? Oh, yeah, the I’m gonna go Bills. Bills. Okay. I love white outs personally, so I’m I see I love them, but I just feel like they’re starting to get over them. But I like this. I like the silver numbers. I don’t I think it fits really well for me. It just fits well. Number two is the Seahawks. Um, and I have a lot of thoughts on that and I’ll save them later. I’ll save them to capital. Yeah, that’s fair. That’s fair. Um, number one is the Cardinals. I did like someone say it looks like a tortilla. That was pretty funny. But I That was pretty good. I think it works so well. I think they Nike finally made a good Cardinals jersey. Took them forever. Yeah, it took It took him a while. Took him a while. But I You know what? I actually don’t think the Cardinals current jerseys are terrible. I just think they They could have done better. They could have done better. They could have done better. Yeah. Um, looks like a nacho. They finally got the state logo on the on the shoulder like we all told them to. The number font and colors and on the stripe on on the pants stripe as well works so good together. I just I think it’s such a good look. It just works. It just works. And how poic make these the primaries. Make these the primaries honestly. Yeah. And how how cool is it that um or just take elements from this to the primary like the state and it’s like how how ironic is it that there was uh that big dust storm right before this? Huh? Yeah. Right before it got released, right? That’s right. Go Arizona. That’s right. Rob’s never said anything negative about Arizona. Um I have nothing against Arizona. I have nothing against Arizona. I just think nothing I’m just a I’m not even a hater. I’m just I nothing hater. Um no I love I I visited last year I loved it. It was beautiful. I had a blast. Okay Seahawk time. Uh so like the whole talk surrounding this for quite some time now is like people were like it’s going to be the most controversial of all the jerseys. um that uh you know it’s using chrome, it’s using gradient, it’s doing a lot of different stuff. So I expected the worst. I expected a bad helmet gradient. I expected some uniform gradients and stuff. So I but I did I did catch it that they were it was going to be sound based. I did catch that with a little teaser. So I’m pretty happy about that. I like it a lot. And I could care less if it looks like the Ducks. Did the Ducks invent things on the shoulders of jerseys? No. I mean, I couldn’t care. They just It’s green, so they say it’s the Ducks. I think they did a really cool job with the chrome on the jersey, both for the shoulders and the numbers. I thought that was really cool. I was happy to see that they brought back Wolf Gray. I’m a big Wolf Grey guy, so it’s cool that we did it back in the in the rotation. You know, I have some nice nostalgia for Wolf Gay. And I love the helmet. The helmet is is one of the coolest helmets I’ve ever seen. That’s where they said they were really going out there for the design. And I think they got it right. I think they tried something really new and they found something really cool. I I think the helmet, especially in like a dome game, is going to pop. Although we’re wearing at home. Damn. I’m really interested to see how the shoulders are going to look like in game. I think it could be very interesting. Um, but yeah, I just love it. I love it. It’s interesting having the Seahawks be right on the chest now for the first time since the 2000. Yeah, I know. It’s been up on the uh on the collar bone for now. I like a lot. And and here’s what’s funny. I’d say 90% of Seahawks fans absolutely despise it. Like they’re going crazy on Twitter. They I know. I’ve been there like people hate these and I’m like it’s like pretty good. It’s like I like them. I like them. I like them. It could have been a whole lot worse. It could have been a whole lot wor when people were like, “Oh yeah, it’s just going to be the uh the action greens but like emerald instead, which is what I thought it was going to be. Um, it could have been way way worse.” I like that it’s unique. It is unique. It is unique. I mean, hey, we’ve had unique jerseys. I love the helmet. I the one thing I would change about it, but I see why they did it this way is I would have killed for more of a green p like a gray on green. I thought that would have looked really cool. But yeah, I mean that’s uh that’s how I feel. I mean I was preparing for the worst. So I actually was pleasantly surprised when I saw it this morning. I was like I like it. I like it. I like the soundwave idea. I think it’s unique. I think it’s cool. I think the shoulders look cool. I like it. So, yeah. I just realized the uh the Patriots one is also the only one that’s not monochrome between the jerseys and the pants. Every other one is monochrome between jerseys and pants, which isn’t on its own a bad thing, but I just never picked up on that. Okay, Arizona really looks like those Russian spets operators except a lot more colorful and designed to reflect the sun’s rays or to look stupid. I can’t tell the difference. Well, I’ll tell you this. Every time the Cardinals get on the field, they look stupid. Oh, you set yourself up for that one. You set yourself up there, buddy. I don’t know anything about the Russian specnaz, so I cannot help you there. Uh, this dude I know this dude. He He’s an expert. He’s an expert. Um, I won’t expose him because they asked me not to expose him later. That’s very I agree. I I totally agree. I’m very I love my privacy. Yep. Uh, privacy is good. Online privacy is especially good. Uh, let me insult it, please. All right. Go ahead. All right. The floor. Let’s hear it. Let’s hear it. I’m going to fill up my water. So, the floor is yours. Floor is yours. This better be good. High expectations. I know what you’re capable of. It’s a lot of interaction in the pod tonight. Let’s go. This is This is good. This is good. We love We love audience interaction. We’re just going to wait. You know what? You know what? Oh, here we go. Okay, here we go. Looks like a tortilla from Taco Bell that got left out for one week. And I’m see I have a singular cheetah. I assume you meant Cheeto. Cheeto laid on it with Arizona symbol just so people say it’s say it’s bad. But we’re saying it’s good. We thought it was pretty good. I like it. I like it. It’s way better than the duck shell one. That’s for sure. That’s true. You know what? I like the the tortilla from Taco Bell. That part’s true. Yes. Absolutely looks It does. It does. It does not look like It doesn’t look like a Chipotle tortilla. I’ll tell you that. Yeah. Um, you know what? You’re right about the the Arizona state flag does carry a little bit. I will say that. Adding it does. It absolutely does. Without it, without it, I would think of it differently, but I think it works. It really works well together. But like, show show them show them what the stripe looks like the on the on the front. What the number looks like. Maybe that’ll sell you. It’s hard to see. It’s hard to see. Oh, does it have a closeup? Oh, I can zoom in though. There we go. There we go. Oh, it looks so good. Copper drop shadow. Oh, come on. Come on. Does that Does that not look good? Yeah. No, I I I I see where I see where they’re coming from, though. Even worse. Oh. Oh, come on. Boo. Even worse. Here’s the thing, though. Here’s the thing, Bo. I cannot believe I did not catch on when they, you know, dropped the Seahawks logo for the rivalry jersey. It was, you know, it was it was green and gray. I was and I was paid I paid so much attention to the green that I didn’t even catch the fact that it was Wolf Gay coming back. I cannot believe I missed that. And I think I think it was kind of kind of because that logo doesn’t show up anywhere on the on the jersey. Doesn’t show up. No, it doesn’t because they just got the uh translucent logo for the helmet. So, it’s like I wonder if it was kind of a troll. I I kind of wonder if it was a bit of a troll. 15 because I know some people I I love the action green, but I know some people I’ I’d probably say probably 60 40 60 people, maybe even 7030. I’d say probably 6040 people despise it towards people who love it. I’d say it’s I’d say more Seattleites like it, but more uh No, it’s No, I know a lot of Seahawks fans would hate it. Really? Okay. Yeah, but I love Action Cream. I mean, it’s one of the color brushes that suck, man. That’s good. Yeah. Chemistry presentation tomorrow. I have to take a lot of chemistry. All right. Should we get to the games? It’s like here’s the thing about this whole stuff. It’s like so many people just pay just care way too much about jerseys, man. Who cares? Who cares if it looks like a Ducks jersey? My favorite going to wear something cool. gonna wear something new. Babe, it looks good. It looks good, man. Let’s go. It’s like Oh, yeah. Softy was going on such a old Van Yoz cloud moment today. It was bad. It’s like Oh, yeah. No, I saw a lot of Seahawks fans did not like these. I cannot believe these people. I, you know, here’s my theory. I think a lot of people were really wanting to throwbacks and then I think that was probably the plan. Some people were like really like maybe subconsciously upset about that. I think the way you square the circle on that one is just mix the two eras. Mix the 90s with the uh with the 2010s. I think I think there’s some concepts out there that look really good. You know, I cannot wait uh I can’t wait for the Bengals ones, but we have to wait till 2828 for those. That sucks, man. Yeah. Oh. Oh, you know who you know which one I’m You know how much they’re going to cost? Oh, probably a lot. $190. Yeah. What? That’s for the like the premium ones. Goodness gracious. I But never mind. I don’t know. That’s my stupid I am going to be getting a mic’s coming. Whose mic? My mic and mic. Is it mine? You sound good to me. I can hear you loud. Sound good to me. Oh my gosh. But we’re across double digit viewers right now. That’s crazy. I know. Hey, we’re at like 14. Oh, damn. Um, you know which jersey I’m getting though. Yep. You You’ve already told me it’s rivalries jersey. The thing is because um because the Seahawks jersey is so modern, I don’t feel like you can get a Rob jersey. I think that adds to the fun of it though. I think it adds to the fun. I haven’t JSN. It’s like who else young should I get cuz my my throwback to JSN great but I that’s kind of the same thing though, right? A new pop. What’s a pop? What’s a pop? Yeah, it’s a pop. I actually don’t know what to pop but but um make it only pop podcast. Shout out shout out Tina from the pod podcast. Um be like a really cool one. All right. All right. All right. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? You know what? Go for it. Show me some designs. Show me some designs. And uh and I’m I’m I’m down. Okay. Um but we got to get into some games here because we also have to doing some edits. Now we’ll do that later. Um should we just start with that before we get into the NFC North ones or should we just do it? Let’s just do it. Let’s just do it. Okay. So, Cowboys. Uh I still think I mean I think our first six for I think we’re I Cardinals. Cardinals I think can switch uh no no Cardinals. Cardinals. Yes. Is that to get the cards into the playoffs? It might. Although the NFC West or North be tough on them. 10 and seven or not. Oh, here we go. I don’t see any other changes so far. Uh no, still still still on the outside looking in as of right now, but we still need to be NFC North. Is there anything else later? No. Yeah, they’re losing out. Yeah, maybe. No. No. Not yet. Okay. All right. Not yet. All right. That’s fair. That’s fair. I don’t see anything else. I mean, we have them losing the last game. So, we already had them at what? That was with Micah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see my tweet earlier? I think my theory of the tank is coming true. Well, Arch Manning is going to be a cowboy, too. The playoffs. I think there is discussion. I think there is discussion about receding. Receding potentially. Yeah, re seeding would be the only thing. I think that’s the only thing. The reg the regular seasons around Robin, man, that the regular season the you win your division. That that is Oh, okay. Do you want to hear the big change me and Bo desperately want to happen for the NFL? Here’s here’s our big change. Oh, not just me. Also Joe Burrow because he’s advocating for Whose mic? Whose mic is it mine or both? Yeah. Is it or is it both? Is it Maybe it’s a connection issue. Yeah, that could be it. That’s probably it. We’re so far away. Yeah. Um, so the big change that we desperately want and Joe Burrow wants, we add the 18th game added by that pushes the Super Bowl to President’s Day weekend, which means who’s going to be upset about that? No. And which means the Monday after Super Bowl Sunday will be a day off for everybody. Right. Right. party all day, sleep all to sleep all morning. And and and for the players, I I said to add the 18th game, get rid of the franchise tag. I think that is something everyone could be happy about. I want to get another game. Players, get rid of the tag. Don’t get rid of it until after the Bengals trade uh tag trade head. Okay. Oh, that reminds me. Oh, yeah. Uh before we get to the NF worth, uh a couple Bengals updates. So, since we caught it on uh Tuesday, uh signed Alton Risyner on uh Wednesday afternoon by the offensive line. That’s good. Also, some numbers came out for the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson’s deal because of the the triggers. Um, the pack is actually only 34 million, which doesn’t sound too much different from the 39 million we were afraid it was going to be, but that’s basically what they probably would have paid in in a second year on a contract. So, theoretically, the tag actually does sound kind of manageable now. So, it’s possible they’d keep him in 2026 on the tag or they tag and trade him. Um, so there’s some good news that came out of it. Uh, Seahawks news. Seahawks news. Uh, Shaquille Griffin got cut, but he signed back to the squad, so that remains. We signed like uh Chaz Serat uh and uh we claimed the DD from the Rams. Uh you know, guess who signed with the Raiders? Oh, uh what’s his name? uh front of the pod stone foresight for one of my one of my draft guys who wind up being a buff. I like I looked on the uh Raiders Reddit and some guy was like looks like it looks like Brett Coleman really liked him a couple years ago. I was like oh oh Bret Coleman love Dude if Bret Coleman likes you a prospect your career’s over and if he hates you as a prospect you’re going to be all it’s like you get your bus ready man for camping. It’s like you you poor child, you do not know what stone stone feet foresight’s going to do to you. Which is so funny because I actually respect I and we’ve talked about this before. Brett Coleman’s got generally good takes on a lot of things, but his draft takes are horrible. Like I don’t think people realize just how bad it is. Like if he likes you as a prospect, your career is basically done. The one time he was really right was he was like Emanuel Forbes is like fifth round grade and yeah, he was really bad. I’ I’ve said it many times. Brett Coleman’s a great filmmaker with incredible access to the entire NFL archive and playbooks. Got to got to keep it Husky purple. Got to keep it husky purple. Oh yeah. Purple purple and gold. So uh get those go up go to the Udub website. Get the hash get the hex codes. All right. Yep. Yep. Uh but no, I mean that was that was pretty funny. And then we uh signed a Rams draft pick linebacker uh Chris Paul Jr. from Chris Paul Jr. That’s right. And then Rams fans were melting down about that and like uh turns out him and Jared Ivy are like super close friends. Um and like I think Chris Paul Jr.’s dad was on McVey on his Instagram. Oh, that’s crazy. That was pretty funny. But hey, I mean, if if Mike McDonald is picking up a linebacker, you know, I trust him. I’ve he he made he knows his linebackers. I don’t blame Dodson or uh or Baker on him really because he had just gotten there. But I mean, Junior had good film. He’s just too small. He did. The two guys who safety the two guys who handpicked who Mike McDonald handpicked pretty damn good last year. Uh favorite teams. Uh I am a Seahawks fan and I was a Bengals fan. You know I’m a Bengals fan. I had the flag in my classroom all year. We’re both Husky fans. Go both Huskies fans for college. That’s right. You um Yep. The Bengals. Bengals. Close enough. Close enough. If you Google it, you’ll get uh his favorite team are the Joe Burrows. That’s true. Honestly, at this point, it might as well just be the Joe Burrows. Dallas Cowards. Oh, that’s a Okay. You know what? That’s a new one. That’s a new one. Most people say the cow girls. Cowards. That’s good. And you know what? Not sexist. Let’s go. That’s a good one. That’s I like that. I like that. I’m going to start using that. All right. Should we get to it? Let’s go through the bears. The bears. Him. #him. So the Bears, they’re off seasonason. Oh, let me pull up the banners here. There you go. Production value through the root. We got banners. Oh yeah. Okay. Um, so the Bears here, uh, added Case Keenum, your boy Travis Homer, Devin Duivere, who after a quietly good career in Baltimore is now bouncing around every team in the league. Uh, Durham Smite, Jonah Jackson, who was really good in Detroit, not so good in LA. Joe Tuni, one of the best guards in the league. Drew Dolman, one of the best centers in the league. So, they’ve really rebuilt the interior of their offensive line and they needed it. So, that’s good. Deo and Odingbo and Grady Jared on the Dline. Um, as well as Passio there. Um, this is an allname secondary or not secondary defense. Deo Dangbo Passo. Amen. Oh god. Orborn, I think. Yeah, I think you got it. Uh and and don’t forget Ruben Hippolite. Oh, and Ruben Hippolite. Our boy Ruben Hippolite. We love Ruben Hippolite. Um and you know what? They resigned their long snapper, which is always And they gave Kyler Gordon a bad extension. Oh, boy. That’s right. I played I played against them at Central. Oh, you did? Oh, I didn’t know that. Yeah. Yeah. No, the Archbishop Murphy came to uh Central and I got in some reps against them and oh my god, they were freaking ginormous. I don’t know if Ava Lucas was there that year or not, but Uhhuh. he probably was with how ginormous they were. And then I remember like we like after that day after that day we scrimmaged against him like that’s a 2-way team because uh Isaqua Isiqua went to Archbishop Murphy and got clapped 70 to nothing and it was a national headline because this is before your time. Every team because they they’re like rural 2A too. All their opponents were forfeiting because they’re like, “Yeah, we’re gonna get killed.” Like literally, our alignment are way too small. Look at that. We got a pope mention in the comments. Let’s go. This is a Pope channel, baby. The Pope. We Okay. Okay. You don’t know this, guys. You guys don’t know this yet, but we actually talk about the Pope way more often. Go. We have we have the pope as a as a uh we have a a pope uh thumbnail video after the pope got elected. Yeah, it’s true. Is it a fish one or is it the No, is it the purple one and cold one or not? I forget. I I don’t remember. I don’t remember. Um scroll through the chat, you’ll find it. But to answer the question, most buns this year, we got the Titans finishing with the worst record in the league. Well, the Titans and Jets finishing with the worst record in the league. best right now. It’s probably the Bill Bills and Eagles and most mid the Raiders. Raiders and Dolphins. I think if if I were a betting man though, I’d say Saints end up uh with the top pick. Yeah, they’re just Yeah, their their quarterback play is just horrendous. Uh it’s either the point starter Yeah. Yeah. Spencer Rattler or Tyler Chuck um is going to be fun dilemma to have. It’d be fun if they traded for Shagura. Oh, they should have, man. They should have. Um anyways, uh losses for the Bears. Darren Evans, whatever. Keenan Allen, he washed. DeAndre Carter, Colin Johnson, Gerald Everett, one of your boys. Mercedes Lewis, like Mercedes Lewis was there forever. Jeez. Larry Borum. Jake. He’s been everywhere forever. Kevin Jenkins, who apparently is like barely hanging on to a roster spot in Cleveland. Very good for them. I remember when people were so pissed that you didn’t sign Kevin Jenkins. Yeah. Uh uh Coleman Shelton went back to the Rams. Taylor, one of your guys. Jacob Martin, one of your guys. Um, it’s like the same thing with like the Pete Carol additions. It’s like seeing the subtractions that were like sound like Shane Waldron’s guys like Jo. A lot of these guys are are Geral guys. So, it’s funny actually that you mentioned that. Oh gosh. Well, that’s Oh, Shane Waldron. That’s the thing. That’s where the connection’s from. This is live. He’s a nice guy. He’s a nice guy. Uh, and then let’s see. So, they’re draft here. Here’s here’s why here’s how you knew Brennan Carroll was a bad OC or a bad recruiter. You know what? Like a lot of like interviews like why what uh what do you think about Brennan Carol? Like why do you pick me dub? You know, it’s like oh Brennan Carol’s really funny. That’s what you Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. You know what? That’s okay. You know what? My my my students say I’m really funny when they ask. Well, that’s that’s that’s a little bit of a different situation. No, that’s okay. Um, draftwise, good start. Coulson Lin, Luther Burton, and also Luther Burton switched from 87 to 13. So interesting. That’s a big Aura move. And aura matters. Aura matters when it comes to jersey numbers. Uh, he’s lying. Yeah, they don’t think I’m funny at all. I lied about that. Um, no one said that. True. Bo B’s a jokester. B’s a jokester. Um, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Uh, Mr. Um, that’s good. All right. Renamed the polar bears. Don’t say a We have a whole episode about Aura from last year. We were really we we kept the podcast we had the podcast schedule go kept going during the offseason last year and we were we were scraping the bottom of the barrel for stuff. Can I say vibes? Is vibes okay? Is what about riz? Jeez, I’m going to get cancel. They’re they’re going to hate me. I can’t I can’t say that. I can’t say that. Even I I can’t say that. Um uh during practice today, you know, I was like, “Yo, yelling rip or Liz.” And I accidentally said Liz and they’re laughing at me. So, oh man, they kill you for that. They killed me for They killed me for that. They did. Um but anyways, so uh Lovelin and Burton I think really good start to the draft here after that. The probably the worst probably the worst pick in the draft and Ruben Hipp Ruben Hippon. I I love it because it beca it made me immediately feel better about the Bengals draft. Yep. Cuz this was like a few picks after they picked Barrett Carter and I’m like, “Oh, okay. It could have been worse.” You can always you can always think other bad uh you can always think some of the bottom of the barrel teams to make you feel better. Yeah. So, not a great draft if we’re being honest here. Good start, then kind of fell off halfway through. Uh lineupwise, hoping for a big year development from Caleb Williams. But if you look at the line in front of him, he’s got no excuses. Nope. He’s got weapons. He’s got a line. He’s got he’s got good play caller. He’s got no excuses. They got another year development for Rome. DJ Moore, one of the top receivers. Old Zakius, a great I think they’re going to they’re going to be running a ton of 12. They’re going to be running a ton of 12. Oh yeah, I got to pull up 12 so we get Kamat and Lovelin both out there. I mean I mean you know what I always say, quarterbacks, young quarterback’s best friends. Tie down. He’s got two good ones. He’s got two good ones. That’s right. DeAndre Swift out there as well who’s, you know, didn’t great. Great. But he’s a solid running back. Um defensively, Colton Nickel here. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, there we go. Get Nickel up there. We got to get Kyler out there. So, uh defensive line is is solid. Um, uh, Montes Sweat, uh, day opening. What was your edge rushers? Not terrible. Not great, but not terrible. Uh, Grady Jarrett a few years ago been really excited about. Now it’s fine. Uh, Gervon Dexter Senior developing nicely there. Good to see. Yep. Uh, it’s qu You know what, as much as people like to clown on Tyreek Stevenson, he was actually having a pretty good season last year. He was. And then that just killed him. I think it killed him. That just killed him. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. So that’s that’s how you know it’s a bad coaching staff is they didn’t pick him back up after after they punished him. It’s like if I was the head coach, I’d be like, “Yeah, he he did something really stupid. I’m not gonna bench him. He’s a good player. He’ll figure he’ll he’ll turn it around.” That’s what that’s what you do as a coach. That’s how you do it as a bad coach. burning yourself after a horrible loss, making your team worse. Yep. Um Jaylen Johnson still quietly one of the best corners in football. Really quietly slot receiver or slot corner receiver. He’d probably be an awesome slot receiver, too. He would be Spider-Man. That’s right. Uh linebackers. Uh a few years ago, TJ Edwards and uh Tmaine Edmonds probably would have one of the best linebacker tandemss in football. Now it’s they’re not bad, but they’ve definitely both not been the same in Chicago as they were in their previous stops, but that’s okay. Uh Kevin Bard having a little bit of a career resurgence after uh he got cast off from Tennessee. Solid there. And then Jaquin Brisker uh quietly a solid safety. So on this defense, Bo, before we move to picks, we need to say something very quickly. Our dear friend Daniel. Yes. Offseason champs. Offseason champs. Let’s go. That’s a joke. U from uh from when we had a third member of the pod, Daniel B. He’s on his hiatus. We still have him. We still have he’ll be come back one day. He’ll come back one day. Um but he would always say the Chicago Bears were offseason champs every single year. And you know what? this year. He was probably right because they’re probably off seasonason champs again. They are. They are. Um, so let’s get into the games here. So, we’ve gotten to the point in our preview series where the only games to pick are in division games. So, Chicago opens the season Monday Night Football against JJ McCarthy in his first career start, the Minnesota Vikings. I’m kind of leaning Chicago here. I think so, too. I think they’re going to have something to prove. Alth Oh, wait. But it’s a rookie head coach in a first. That’s That’s what I was about to say. Yeah. Oh, I think I Yeah. Oh, this is tough. A quarterback who’s never played before versus coach who’s never coached before, but I take the quarterback who’s never quarterback before in We’ll lean this. That’s Oh, that’s that’s that’s gonna be tight. I think that’s going to be an ugly game. That’s gonna be an ugly game. Yeah. All right. Troy, Chronicle Sun comes home. I think they split, but I don’t think they win week one or week two. They start 0 and2 and the world’s falling apart. I think it’s going to take time. It it that’s just what happens with young teams, right? I think they split the Vikings. I think they I think they split the Vikings. I do. But they get swept by the Packers as is tradition, right? Yes, absolutely. the lease. The the the lease is still going on and I think they’re going to split the lines. So, they get split by the Packers, but they split the lines. Yeah. Which gets them to six and 11. Little disappointing. I’m not going to lie. I think they That’s not They got to play the AFC North, though. And in the NFC North, I think this is very much a building year. I think it’s And get Caleb confidence. Keep building. Lions. Uh, Vikings are getting more expensive. Packers, I think, are kind of all in right now. They’re only going to get worse. Packers are all in. All in. Um, honestly, I don’t know if the Packers I’ll say this now. I don’t think the Packers have the roster to go all in right now. Well, the quarterback’s still Jordan Love. Let’s be real. I know, but like around him, we just like Josh Jacobs is Oh, yeah. I know. Like off like the receiver position. Yeah. I can’t really O line. Is there any just stud old line that they have? I mean, Zack T’s good, but yeah, like they don’t have any studs that they they have good players. They’re coached well, but it’s like I I just don’t see like I mean, if you get the chance to get Mike Barson, go get him. Yeah, I don’t blame you for that. Are are we just segueing into the Packers? Should we just do that now? Because they’re on team anyways. Yeah, we’re already talking about the Packers. Go back Jacobs because that that’s a you know or go get go get him. It just I don’t see a Super Bowl team there is you know I don’t think that I mean Xavier McKini that’s he was awesome. I said Xavier McKenna. I said I said oh you did sorry I didn’t hear you. He broke up for a second I think. So it’s like it’s it’s you got Josh Jacobs, Jordan Love, Savior McKenna and Micah Parsons. And I’m not seeing I’m seeing a lot of good, not great. That edge tandem’s really good. That corner that edge tandem is really good. That edge tandem is really good. The corner tandem’s not quite as uh encouraging though. That’s a rough corner room actually looking at it now. Yeah. Um anyway, so Green Bay Packers, obviously they’re they’re the talk of the NFL after today. Um was it the right time to go? Well, they signed Well, no, I think they cut me Cole Hardman, man. I don’t think Nicole Hardman. Yeah, they did. They cut him. Um so they cut they cut they cut Isaiah Simmons, too. They did. I did see that. So a couple of these moves are already outdated. um signed Zack Tom to a big extension. Uh signed Aaron Banks to a big deal even though he sucked. It’s actually kind of crazy that Aaron Banks is barely making more than Zack Tom when Zack Tom’s a much better player. Um Isaiah McDuffy, cool. Isaiah Simmons, they cut already. Nate Hobs, good player. Good player. That was a good acquisition. Brandon McManus. Aaron Banks was horrendous though. He’s so bad. So bad. Um, where’s all this money coming? Where’s all this money coming from? It’s the Green Bay Oil Tycoons, man. It’s like It’s like they were always the team that did the free agency and then they went Josh Jacobs, Saber McKennis, Aaron Banks, Nate Hobs. It’s like Micah Parsons in a huge It’s like where’s all this money coming from? Isn’t it crazy that the draft and develop team traded two firsts? Yeah, Guten Co, man. He’s doing things different. John Schneider is probably shaking his actually. No, John Schneider does dumb stuff. So, uh Ron Wolf is shaking his grave. Oh, there’s a lot there’s a lot of good jokes here. You’re not You’re not thinking you’re not thinking hard enough, my friend. Oh, man. There’s a lot of good backers jokes, but because this is a PG program, we’re gonna leave it at that. Um, oh yeah, look at that. I just saw the play that won Nebraska the game. That’s crazy. Dude, all three teams, all three Big 10 teams were weren’t very good tonight. Who’s Cincy’s quarter? Summersby. Yeah, anyways. Oh, he looked he looked better than than all three other Big 10 quarterbacks. I feel that. Oh god, Ry is just looking like trash in front of Kelsey is so funny to me. Um, losses. AJ Dylan, Green Bay Packer legend, but unfortunately uh not that good. Although if the Eagles liked him, he actually must have something to think because they turn everybody into players. Um, Andre Dillard, terrible. Josh Meyers, I thought he’d be good, man. Uh, TJ Sllayton, great is one of the best runs stopping detackles in the league. Hopefully he upset Cincinnati. We’ll see. Uh, Eric Wilson, Jaier Alexander, obviously one of the top players on that defense when he’s healthy. Eric Stokes, Cory Valentine, just not that I’m tripping about those two, but they’re losing a lot in the secondary. Their corner room’s so bad right now. Yeah. Yeah. And how did they address it? Well, they Well, other than Nate Hobs, they didn’t sign any corners. And the only corner they drafted was in the seventh round when they cut him. So, uh, their draft, we like Matthew Golden. That’s about it. After that, it’s a lot of nothing. Yes. Not a not a good draft. It’s not a good draft in Green Bay. What grade did we give them? Something bad. Something bad. We gave the Green Bay Packers. Just looking at this draft, I know. I still don’t know why Baron Serell got invited. And he just stayed in the green room like I ain’t leaving. Yeah, he got he was at the green room. He was Yes, he stayed there till day three. Or that’s um Yeah, we gave him a C minus. Okay, so we gave him the same. We gave him the same grade. I like the Bengals draft better than this. I do too in hindsight. Uh they send people home packing the playoffs. Or maybe I’m outdated. Yeah, recently you’re pretty outdated there, I’m afraid. But that’s okay. Yep. Yep. You are outdated, my friend. Um but anyway, so offensive line here, Rasheed Walker, uh Aaron Banks, uh Elton Jenkins, who is good Sean Ryan, Zack Tom. Good Zack Tom. Uh really like Zack Tom. And there’s so many easy jokes right now after freaking uh Cord Els by the way. Oh, there’s so many good jokes there with Brett Favre right now, too. So many good jokes. Y um Tucker Craft tight end. Let’s see. Wait, if we get to 12 personnel, who we got out there? Luke Musgra. Oh yes, let’s hide our receivers. Actually, that’s probably a good idea. Um Jordan Love it QB obviously Josh Jacobs at running back had a little bit of a resurgent year in Green Bay which was good for him. Uh Dobs in the rookie Golden. Uh if we go to the three wide receiver Oh yeah J never mind. We’ll find Jaden Reed out there. Jay Reed’s good. Jay Reed’s good. Um defensively, have you heard of this guy Michael Parsons? I’ve never heard of him. Does he have a podcast or something? I got a podcast, but it’s not nearly as big as the West Coast draft podcast. So, um, lined up from Ran across from Rhonda Gary is pretty good. Uh, I Carl, I think that’s Carl Brooks lined up next to Devonte Wyatt, so the interior’s not great. Uh, Edge Cooper’s developed nicely already, which is good, next to Quay Walker. Um, Xavier McKini and who’s this? Who’s Williams? I’m gonna see Evan Williams. Duh. The uh, Oregon dude. Um, yeah. Got grade pretty good. President of state. President only one year at Oregon. Yeah, that’s true. Developed a Bulldog. Uh, Keshan Nixon, Nate Hobbs, uh, on the outside. Uh, Georgia Bulldog, Javon Bullard, they’re in the slot. Um, I don’t know if this is an all-in roster if I’m being honest looking at it. Like they’ve got good pieces here and there, but I’m like the corner room’s bad. The receiver room’s still not super inspiring. Like I’m supposed to be excited about Don Oh, Dantavian Wixs. Remember when he was a big thing last summer? Oh god. Romeo, Dantavian Wick. Yeah. Uh so anyways, here we go. Week one hosting the Lions. Mike Parsons against uh against Taylor Deckard. Rashawn Garing against Penny Su. That’ll be a fun match up there. That’ll be really fun. Oh man, I don’t know. The Packers, the Packers get one over on Lil Bro once again. I think they split him. Oh yeah, I’ll go home away split. Oh split. There you go. Look at that. We got a five and0 start for the Packers here. And they go down. That feels right. That feels great. Honestly, that would be such a freaking Packers game to lose. So, um, home against the Vikings. I think they beat the Vikings. I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if they sweep the Vikings this year. I don’t think they’re sweeping the Vikings. I don’t think their corner room can match up against them. Oh, that’s true. Especially now the Vikings got I think it’s home away again. All right, that’s fair. And then there you go. Yeah. So, we get the Packers at 10 and seven. Respectable. Respectable. Let’s see if there’s anything we’d switch. [Music] No, I haven’t beat the Broncos. Mile High in December, though. That’s tough. Not for the weather for the elevation. Beat the Steelers. I can see them. Yeah, beat the Steelers. No, but then Mike’s on. Oh, never mind. Never mind. Yep. Never mind. Nope. We can’t do it. It can’t happen. All right, we’re I feel like that’s a game that’s going to win. I feel like that’s what’s going to win. No, it’s it’s I guess we’re keeping it because I don’t see any other games that I’m gonna switch. This is tough. They got some tough games, man. Yeah. All right. Let’s move to the Vikings. Starting five and0 and finishing 10 and seven will be a massive disappointment for them. Uh, yep, that’s right. It’s time for the Minnesota Vikings. I can’t wait for that joke. Minnesota. So, what the uh So, we already got them 11 and four. Hey, they’re also starting five and0. What a start. What a start for the NFC uh North here. Um, let’s see. So, Minnesota uh brought back Aaron Jones, brought in Jordan Mason on trade, signed Rond Del Moore, but he’s already out for this season. Uh brought back Josh Oliver, brought back Justin School, or I think just brought in Justin School, didn’t bring him back. Uh brought in Will Freeze and Ryan Kelly from Indie for their interior offensive line. uh brought in Allen and Hargrave uh to shore up the interior of their defensive line, which is especially important after they traded Harrison Phillips last week for some reason. Um yeah, that was weird. Uh got uh um Andrew Van Ginkle restructured his deal. Uh Eric Wilson, brought him back. They did a whole lot of stuff. ressigned Byron Murphy, signed Auda, signed Isaiah Rogers, signed Todd, signed a bunch of backup corners. I don’t know if any of these guys even made the team. I don’t know how Harrison Smith is still in the NFL, man. Hey man. Hey man, he’s killing it. He’s killing it. Um, and then they resigned their punishers. Those are additions. Losses is a long list. Uh, Sam Darnold, obviously, Daniel Jones, obviously. Um, both these guys are starting for teams uh in week one. So that’s fun. Um, Nick Mullins, Cam Acres, Brandon Powell. How many I Let me back up on that because I think that gets How many teams can say Oh yeah, two of the quarterbacks or No, I guess cuz McCarthy was there. Three of the quarterbacks that were on our team in 2024 will be starting week one for teams in 2025. That’s pretty crazy when I think about it. But anyways, um, so crazy. Cam Acres, Brandon Powell, Trent Sherfield, Johnny Mont. Uh, I’m not tripping about any of these losses, honestly. Um, oh, hey, they haven’t updated Dalton Risner. Oh, that’s right. Yeah, throw throw Cincinnati Bengals, Super Bowl champs on there. Um, Ed Ingram, who’s horrible. Uh, Garrett Bradberry. That’s the loss. That’s the loss. Yeah. Uh Patrick Jones is a little my guy. He’s one of my guys. Yeah. Jihad Ward. This isn’t updated, but he went back to Jacksonville, I believe. Um actually, I know he he’s either Jacksonville or Tennessee. Where’d he go? I know he went to an NFC South get where it was either Titans or Jag Titans. Okay, never mind. He went to the Titans. He used to be up. Interchangeable. Interchangeable. Yeah, it’s all it’s a random AFC South team that’s gonna be terrible. Uh Jonathan Bowler, Jerry Tiller, Kriger Hill, Stfon Gilmore, Shaq Griffin went back to the Seahawks and then got cut and then what? They bring him back on the practice squad or something. Uh yeah. Yep. I figure. Yeah. Oh, you mentioned that earlier too. Baby and Maro and then Cam Binham is a pretty big loss because he’s a good player out of out of Cal a few years ago. Draftwise, what do we think of Minnesota’s draft? I honestly can’t remember. They didn’t have a lot of picks, we did not like Minnesota’s draft. Never mind. I can just look at this and tell you because we like Donovan Jackson and I think after that, let’s see, how do we feel about it? Let me pull up the great here. Yeah, we gave him a D+. So, not a fan. I like Donovan Jackson. Don’t they did there? Um, so for the lineup here, got a rookie quarterback. Well, not a rookie quarterback, but a second year quarterback that was hurt all last year, so might as well be a rookie quarterback. Um, also for the comments section here, I taught you guys about the Vikings last year. Had there not been a Vikings joke? Come on. Oh, come on, guys. Give them a retroactive f. Retroactive. Come on. Anyways, uh JJ McCarthy and Aaron Jones here uh in the back field. I thought Leaf Ericson was for Minnesota Vikings. There you go. At least I taught you guys about Lee Ericson. Oh, okay. I’ll give it to you. Uh honestly, he might be Baron J McCarthy for um wait one, two, three. Wait. Oh my goodness. PF is glitched. 21 personnel, but doesn’t have a second running back. This is their This is their 10-man lineup. Okay, there we go. Uh, you know what? Actually, they’ll probably do the uh now that they’ve got um feeling now though. Yeah, they’ll probably go three receivers here. Um anyways, Darasaw, Jackson, Kelly, Freeze, O’Neal. It’s actually a pretty solid offensive line left to right with uh Kelly and Freeze in there. Hawinson at tight end, very solid. Jefferson, Theland, and Naylor, and obviously Addison coming back in a few weeks. So, um, overall in a pretty good spot offensively. Like, they’ve put everything around McCarthy that he’s probably going to need to be successful. There’s not a lot of holes around him. Um, but it’s kind of it’s going to be up to him now. Uh, defensively, nickel or Yeah, we’re getting going. Let’s go base here because I don’t think they need to get Jeff Akuda on the field. Um, yeah, but they don’t really run they don’t really run. They have so many GBs. They’re so multiple. They’re so they’re so interesting, man. They’re so cool. I love them. But yeah, really Harrison Smith here and Josh Matelis at slot corner move Byron Murphy outside. Look at that. Look at that. Jeff Mud look great, man. Jeff is so bad, man. Um, Byron Murphy in the slot here. Isaiah Rogers outside. Uh good edge tandem in Grenard and Van Ginkle. Yeah, Van Ginkle really had an awesome year last year. He was so good. He was He’s always been a good player, man. Brian Flores loves him some Andrew Van Ginkle. He does. He does. Uh Ivan Pace and Blake Cashman quietly one of the best linebacker duos. See, there’s there again my my most the biggest issue I have with PFF is almost linebackers. How is Ivan Pace 63? That’s crazy, man. Absolutely crazy. Um Leaf Erikson was the quarterback for the Vikings last year in Redhead. Sam Darnold. Yep, that’s right. Redhead Sam Darlins, right? Yeah. Theo Jackson, Josh Melis again. What? How’s Harrison Smith on out here? Where’s Harrison Smith at? Is he her or something? Yeah. See, I think they like their three safety links. So they take off. They take off on linemen. Uh, that’s fair. That’s fair. Um, so there you go. We’ve only got two more games to predict and it’s both the Lions Vikings games. What happened last year? I’m blanking. They lost. The Lions swept him, but they were both like crazy. No, the first one was a crazy down to the wire game in Minnesota. And then the last one was the week 18 Sunday night game. The Lions killed them. Yeah, that’s right. So, I, you know, I think the Lions are taking a step back this year, man. I think they’re going to split home and home. Home and home. Well, that sounds fair. Um Oh, yeah. And on Christmas Day, too, in the winter warrior outfits. There’s no way to lose that. I love those uniforms. So, we got a third. We got a 12 and five Minnesota Vikings team. Yeah, I like it. Wow. All right. Look at We got them six and0 in the last uh six weeks. Minnesota, don’t say I think they’re I think they’re one of the most complete rosters in the league. They are in the NFC. In the NFC in the NFC I don’t know. I need to see with JJ, but that’s fair. That is totally fair. I’m not a big fan coming out, but I’m not a big JJ fan. As a whole is very complete. So if JJ I’m not a JJ fan, but I’m a Kevin Oonnell fan. I’m a JJ I’m a J Justin Jefferson fan. That’s fair. I could probably I could probably get I could probably score a touchdown that’s Yeah. All right. And it would be a Jets uh screen pass to Justin Jefferson. That brings us to the illustrious the greatest team of all time. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Home. Only home team wins so far. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Oh, that’s what it is. Only 10. We got the Lions missing the playoffs. The Cards make it. The Cards get and the Packers miss. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. We’ll talk about We’ll preview the lines here in a second. We might even adjust some games here, but let’s just think. So, you know, in the NFL they say every year there’s like like six teams from the playoffs last year will flip over. So, we’ve got the Seahawks and Cards in instead of the Lions and the Packers. I don’t see where we changed win totals here, man. We got the Bengals in instead of or we got the Bengals and Patriots instead of the Chargers and Steelers. So, that’s four. That’s pretty reason four. Four versus six. I mean, four’s that’s pretty reasonable, honestly. But that’s crazy. I don’t see where we can help the Lions here. Yeah, I don’t know. Let’s do the preview. Let’s do the preview. Um, actually, if you want to do it, I’m going to pop out for just a second. Yeah, talk through it for me. So, we got Kyle Allen uh signing on backup quarterback. Ten Patrick back. Big fan favorite. I know Daniel really likes Tim Patrick. Solid player, big position receiver. Kenny Yip, I don’t know how to say that. Don’t know him. Christine Cologne, Dan Skipper got cut. I know that’s a big deal. I know. I know there’s probably a lot of Lions fans who are upset about that. They’re bringing back Marcus Davenport. He is an addition to them. Roy Lopez with us all player. Levi’s coming back again. Derek Barnes, Zack Cunningham for him. Garcia, Vonte Maddox, big deal. Uh DJ Reed’s a big get. I mean, that’s that’s a really good get. Uh Bo didn’t lose connection. He’s going to be right back. Uh he’s he just had to step off for a second. They should put horns on their actual helmets so they can turn the little charts above it. Boom. Super Bowl victory and she uses lost lost to bison after thor. Well, I know they have horn decals or at least used to have horn decals on their uh helmets. Those were good. Those were those were fun ones. That’s probably like Adrien Peterson Primes. They had horns on those. Prep Favre for Randy Moss. That’s pretty cool. But, uh, now they just have the blonde guy on it, which kind of downgrade if you ask me. I like those purple Matt helmets with, uh, with the horns on them. I think those are really good ones. You know, I don’t know about the Lions either. I think they really missed the window. I mean, I don’t think I don’t know if Jared G is the guy to do it. He’s had an awesome time in Detroit. I think Shawn McVey moved off for a reason. Joe Stafford for a reason. Uh he doesn’t think Jerry Goffman won the Super Bowl. I’m a big believer in Shawn McVey. The roster is getting more expensive. It’s getting older. It’s getting hurt. Right. You had to pay him on RA. You had to pay uh I don’t know if they’ve paid Pan yet or not, but they probably No, they paid Pane. So we’ll have to pay Aiden Hudson. you can never really give him any help on the the D line. And then you cost both coordinators and probably a whole lot of staffers that follow one of either of them. Dan Campbell is a great leader, but attrition gets you in the NFL. It’s attrition of players. It’s a nutrition of staff. It’s a attrition of front office. It’s attrition of funds. You know, it it’s what gets you. And uh it’s NFL stands for not for long for a reason, right? So, I’m I’m a little low on the Lions. You know, they got some really great stuff going on. But, you know, replace a Sel caller on both sides. That’s that means a lot. And you never know if they’re ready for it or not. See, they hired them with him, get promoted. So, it’s going to be I think it’s going to be a down year for them. I think maybe they can rebound and get back up. But you know, drafting higher and to pay players, it gets trickier. My biggest complaint with him always, I was never the biggest uh fan of their DC who left to be a Jets coach. Uh Aaron Clint, I I I never thought he was a very good DC to be honest. He’s fine, but he’s not great. He’s not something I would have made head coach. I don’t think he does really anything interesting on defense and he never found ways to help Aiden Hudson or when Aiden Hudson was gone he just couldn’t find a way to get a pass rush. Need a pass rush to this day in the NFL. There’s a reason that the top defensive coordinators right now are from pretty heavy pass rushing threes and you got to manufacture it. You got to use Sims. You got to use multiple fronts. That’s not something the Lions do. Just not more of that wide n kind of squad. They uh and that’s kind of gone out of fashion. Got that Mike McDonald targeted coverage. You know, quarter quarter, half quarter, quarter, cut the corner. It’s uh you need a little bit more. And uh I think this a bit of a down here might be good for lines. Might give them the shock that they need to maybe change things up a little bit for the better. I mean, things are going pretty good, but I think they need a little bit of a kick into a different direction, especially on defense. I’m just I’m a big scheme guy. I coach football and uh I think it’s taught well. I think it could schematically sound, but I don’t know how many questions it asks on offenses. That’s what they have to do these days. I’m all right. I dialogued. I’ve monologued. No, it’s good. I was I was listening and I appreciate that. So, um No, but yeah, I mean the big losses in Troy. We can talk about the like, you know, losses on the roster, but let’s face it, it’s Ben Johnson, and Glenn, more so Ben Johnson, um, that are going to be the ma major major losses here. Um, also, one thing, Tim Patrick got traded, so not there anymore. One of Daniel’s favorites no longer. Oh, that’s right. I forgot about that. He got traded today. Or was it yesterday or yesterday? Uh, and then they cut Dan Skipper. Did they resign him? Uh, I don’t know actually. I’ll take a look. I’m googling or not, I’m uh Twitter searching Dan Smipper. Uh, yeah, they’re resigning to the practice. Yeah. So, that’s They never let him They never let him go. Let’s be real. Um, let’s see. I don’t think you’d want to go anywhere else. No, he’s an icon, man. He’s an icon. Um, never leave. You never leave. What was I gonna say? Um, so let’s see what other say. Uh, Pat O’ Conor, Mark Stavenport back, Roy Lopez, pretty good get for nose tackle. Levi’s back, but then he’s g he’s gonna do this, Bo. Come on. I know. I know. You talk about all these guys, though. Oh, you talked about DJ Reed. That’s right. I’m just messing with you. You can go through it. I don’t care. Kirby to extension. No, no, no. I don’t want to be redone there. Uh, here we go. Okay. Lions lost Bridgewwater last Robinson lost Kevin Zitler like Frank Ragnar retired. That’s big loss. Zarius Smith had a quiet nine sacks last year for him. So that’s a big loss. Uh Ben Meman, Mike Badgley, John Kaminsky, Kyle Pekco, J Carlton Vegas switch. I mean they upgraded with DJ Reed who left mostly but they didn’t the biggest loss. The biggest loss Kindle Vor Daniel’s favorite player. These three are really the only ones here. Those are three big losses, man. Carlton Davis loss in a way, but they’ve replaced him with a better player. I think DJ, so I don’t think it’s a huge loss. Um, so we’ll see. I don’t know. Uh, Detroit did have, in my opinion though, a pretty good draft. I think Williams is a little bit reach, but I think Tate Rattlage, why couldn’t they draft a pass rusher, man? They just I’ve been screaming for it. Give Aiden Hutchinson a running buddy, right? Isaac Tesla, everyone’s favorite player already. It feels like uh Miles Frasier. I picked him up in fantasy. Yeah, I know. I saw I almost I almost drafted him, but I needed more uh tight end depth, which why I drafted Roy instead. Um Hos, I just picked him up. I know. No, I know. And I was going to pick him up, but I needed more tight end depth still. So, I picked Evs instead. And then I saw you picked him up. Uh Don Love it. How do we grade the Lions draft here? Lions draft we gave a C+ that feels fair. Not not don’t love it but Tate Rage was awesome value and Isaac Tesla’s already turned into a really good player for him preseason. Now the lineup here. So he didn’t lose a lot of talent. At least offensive line they did actually. They lost a lot of depth. They lost a lot of depth. So, uh, on offense here, Goff coming back, Gibbs and here, let me get 21 personnel in here so we can get Oh, they don’t let me put 21 person. I can’t have Gibbs and Montgomery. Lame. Anyway, so Samora here, uh, Decker and Su, one of the best tackle teams in football. They’re the best line. They were the best O line in football last year. Oh, actually, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Second best Philadelphia. You’re right. Is that who you’re thinking for number one? Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That would definitely honestly honestly I think Tesla could take a leaf raymond spot. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He should. He should honestly. Um J St. Brown. And yeah, offensively they’re pretty complete. Um obviously I mean imagine this Ragnau and Zitler still, but I think Rattler’s going to step in and be a start. So not too worried there. Uh Hutchinson lining up across from Davenport. Really haven’t given him that true uh excuse me that true partner in crime yet. Still waiting on that. Tyl Williams going to step in next to DJ Reer on the interior. They still got Lee McNeel and um I think he’s pretty banged up. And then Levi. Levi is just rotational death at this point. Yeah. Well, no, Levi is out for the year. Oh, that’s right. That sucks. Yeah. uh Jack Campbell and Alex Analone on the interior or on the for the interior backers I should say. And then they’ve also uh they got Malcolm Rodriguez and u I think he’s out for the year actually. Is he really? Oh man, Derek Barnes, they still got Derek Barnes. Um you might be right actually. Yeah, I think he is. Yeah, but they got Derek Barnes. So um but DJ Reed and Amique Robertson slot corner. Terion Arnold helping to bounce back from a rough rookie year. Uh, one of the better safety tandemss though. Kirby Joseph and Grunt Ranch. Awesome. Awesome safety tandem here. Um, yeah, we’ll see. I mean, I don’t know. The pass rush isn’t super inspiring. I don’t know. I mean, Tyler Williams a pretty good. He’s a No, he’s more of a run stopping tackle. I don’t have a lot of interior pass rush here now. Tyl can get some push. Ty can get some push. He can. Oh, he’s huge. But I mean, I feel like Alen McNeel’s probably their best interior pass rusher when he’s healthy. Levi’s good at that, but he’s out for the year. The interior is not going to be able to generate a lot of pressure here in my opinion. That safety dude is so awesome. It’s so good, man. If Arnold develops, this is an awesome secondary. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. A Meek Robertson. A Meek Robertson being like, “Yeah, I’ve played against Justin Jefferson since I was a kid. Put me oneonone against him.” and then he shuts him down. That’s just one of like the coolest votes ever, man. All right, so looking at their team here. So, we got him at 10 and seven out of the playoffs right now. And I know Daniel would kill us if we left it that way, but what why are we switching? I don’t see it. Here’s the thing, Daniel. You lost both coordinators. You lost a ton of depth. You’re getting older and more expensive. This is what happens. Yep. Could end up being a mini rebuilding you. We got you winning five games in the middle of the year. We got you beat Washington. I mean, it’s just a hard schedule, man. It’s just a really hard schedule. That’s what happens when you’re at the top of your division and they choked the last two games, honestly. I’d consider giving them the Vikings game at the end of the year. This one? Yeah. Does that get them in the playoffs? It gets him the NFC North title and it does get him in over the cards. I like that. I like that. All right. All right. Fair enough. Well, there you go. Conference here. Here’s our playoff team. Oh, wait, wait. Here we also have to uh show you guys the pre uh pre uh playoffs draft order as well. Here’s the first team out. The pack. Go all in. Don’t make the playoffs. Brutal. Do we want to actually Do we want to evaluate the Packers full schedule? No. No, we already did. We already did. We already did. Um, so there you go. The draft order. Titans, Jets, Saints, Browns, Cowboys, Giants, Bears, Jags, Colts, Panthers, Raiders, Dolphins, Niners, Chargers, Falcons, Steelers, Cards, and Packers. You want to do a little playoff bricks? Uh, no. I can’t tonight. I’m All right. We’ll save that for another one. I was pretty dead from practice, but uh That’s fair. That’s fair. Hey, you know what? That’s all right. We’ll save that for another round. It was defense day today, so I was I had to do a lot more. That’s fair. We’ll save that for another round. Maybe we’ll throw that on. We’ll just do it on the college college football. So, yeah, that’s what I said. We’ll we’ll throw it on to the college episode. But that is it. The preview series is over and this No, no, it’s not yet. It’s not yet. We can’t say yet. We got to get our playoff predictions. You want you want to speed round it? Do Do you want to speed round it? I’d be willing to speed around. That’s what I mean. I didn’t want to like spend a ton time. All right, let’s speed around it. Let’s do it. Let’s do it. Um, here we go. Early. I’m thinking Denver, Casey, Cincy. Yeah, maybe Baltimore instead of Casey. Denver, Casey, Cincy. Denver and Cincy. Okay, Casey. We’ll go Casey. We’ll go with the established product here. Uh, commies at Bucks again. I think commies. Uh, I don’t know. I like the Bucks this year. Oh, I’ll give it to you. I’m thinking Bucks. I think Bucks get him. Seahawks avenge their last playoff loss to the Rams. Give it to me. Yeah. All right. Here we go. If my thing doesn’t crash on me, just give me one playoff win, please. I’m trying I’m trying to click on the Bucks right now. It doesn’t want to do anything for me. Unfortunate. Oh no. Oh no. Did we get this far just to get this far? Is this how it ends? Just refresh it. Yeah, that’s what I’m going to do. We didn’t come this far just to come this far. No, we came to finish. We came to close. Oh my goodness, man. It’s really crashing on me here. Maybe just close leather tabs. Oh, here we go. Oh. Oh my goodness. Oh man, it’s going crazy on me. Yeah, we can close these tabs now. The We don’t need them anymore. We don’t need them. Team previews are done. Team preview series is done. We just need the playoffs to load here. Here. Oh, here we go. All right. All right. All right. All right. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. All right. We’re back. We’re back. All right. Seahawks. [Music] Let’s see if I can. Sure, why not? We almost had him winning the division, so it’d be weird at this point to go back. It’s fair. It’s fair. Yeah, it’s fair. This would be a disappoint. The Lions, they they thought they were just scratching the surface after they lost the NFC Championship and then they lose in the divisional round. It seems it seems like that was it seemed I think looking back that NFC Championship year was their year. That was the year they should that was their shot. They missed their chance to blow. That opportunity truly only came once in a lifetime. Oh my god. All right, hold on. Let me see if I can pull this. Oh, I I need a We’re doing a know your coach thing for our team barbecue tomorrow. I don’t have anything funny for a superstition before I play it. Do you have Did he have any funny superstitions that I can steal? Um, not particularly, honestly. No, I want to I want to put something funny. big. Here we go. Okay. I I was never a big superstition guy. I just open a different tab because that tab just not doing any favors right now. There we go. Oh, classic Cincinnati KC, but this time in the jungle. Not in Burough Head. Not in Burough Head. Not Burrowhead. I The floor is yours, my friend. Wow. Can they do it? You know what? I I I kind of want to reverse jinx it and give it to All right, go for it. Do the reverse jinx. Um Oh, no. Is this one doing it now, too? My goodness. This is why you don’t use servers from the 1940s if you’re uh making a playoff prediction website. Uh yeah, look at that. Exit. Let me try this again. Yeah, I can tell it’s having a problem. Well, queued you in on that one, Chief. Anyways, Kansas City, I think Buffalo beats Denver. I’m not that one. The Seahawks are going to fall in Florida. And the Vikings are going to fall in Philadelphia like they always do. Look at this. Give it Give me the Bills. The Bills do it. The Bills do it. I think it’s Eagles go against the team. They’re nemesis. They team that always beats them, but I agree. I I think the Eagles get it this time. The one and the one Eagles Bills, I believe. Give the Bills their first chip. Give it to them. You know what? You know what? Because I want to reverse jinx or I just want to jinx them. Give it to the Bills. All right. Final draft order here with the playoff teams. Texans, Pats, Ravens, Commies, Rams, Lions, Broncos, Vikings, Seahawks, Bengals, Bucks, Chiefs, Eagles, Bills. There it is. We did it. There it is. We did it. That’s the season. That’s the preview. We did it. A week. What are we week and a half? Not even a week and a half. One week. We’re a week from the kickoff. We’re a week from kickoff. Look at that. We made it before Christmas. We don’t need you anymore. We don’t need you anymore. Get out of here. We Hold on. I’m just going to move the tab entirely. Look at that. Full screen in it. We’re one week away from Well, actually, this time in one week, uh, Cowboys Eagles will be long over, actually. So, uh, we’ll have games to talk about, and the Eagles will almost certainly dominate that game. Almost certainly. I could be jinxing it. Who knows? Um, but you’ll find out more because our first NFL pick of the 2025 season will be occurring on the Tuesday stream when we got to talk a little bit about um, well, college football, but then also Thursday Night Football as is tradition. So, that is it for this edition of the West Coast Draft Podcast. Thank you to all who joined us for nearly two hour stream. Any closing thoughts, Mr. Jokeman? We did it. We’re here. And how about them cowboys? How about them cowboy? All right. There it is. There it is. All right. If one of us can survive a whole off season without football and finally make it, we can all do that. Uh if all one of us would like, all of us, one of us subscribe. All of us subscribe. Thanks for watching and trust.