Tony is hanging out with Donald Cooper and Vaughn Taylor at RSM, for the last tour event of the year. They talk about what the best players do with practicing and practice rounds. Coop shares how practice rounds are to adapt to the conditions, not to work on your swing or your game. Cooper and Taylor share what they focus on the days before the tournament, what he needs to get out of practice at home vs. a tournament. Cooper shares the best practices he’s ever seen, and why he studies divets.
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Coupe Foley on one of dear friend Sean Foley brought up on one of the last podcasts about the time we all hung out and he he talked about your brilliance. So, we’re sitting here. It’s RSM last tour event of the year. Me and Coupe, Donald Cooper, Von Taylor kind of hanging out here beside us. We’re going to talk about practice because we had a practice round today and you you’ve come up with some good stuff about practice. Let’s talk a little bit about things you think about practice rounds people get out of practice rounds and then I’ I’d like to pick your brain a little bit on things you’ve seen some of the best players do just practicing. Okay. He’s picking the brain. Well, the first thing I got to say about practice rounds is if the player isn’t taking in what he’s doing, it’s wasting everybody’s time, right? And a lot of them feel obligated because they don’t want to be away from the golf course and that’s understood. But people feel like if they’re not there, they’re not. If you got a family and children, that’s your priority. Golf will come and go. I mean, but seriously, practice rounds are to adapt to the conditions. It ain’t to work on your swing or your game. You should have that dialed in way before you get here. Especially for like the guys been out here a long time, played a bunch. If you’ve played a golf course, we talked a little bit about stuff US Open and things Tiger had said about like how the golf course really all you’re trying to do is figure out how the golf course changes each day. You know, that type of stuff, right? How it changes throughout the week. How it changes. Yeah. And the one of the craziest things I’ve ever seen was Bill Glasson at Augusta. The forecast was for rain all that week. And I look out there one day and he’s got his bare feet on the range with the hose pipe wetting the ground. And I’m like, what is this guy doing? Well, now it makes sense to me. He was doing his homework, getting prepared for the tournament. What that looked like, Bill Glass out there hitting balls barefoot, like a linebacker hitting a golf ball. You couldn’t have went up moved him an inch if you pushed on his back. Really when he was setting up to it, like athletic as you could be. But I mean, it’s just like that was his preparation. Stay stable. Stay stable. Yeah. Prepare. And you just talked a little bit before we got Vaughn brought up. We should have been taping the stuff we were talking about before we came. I’m not smart. Nobody ever accused me and you of being very smart. Practice round. What What do you go into a practice round looking as a caddy? As a caddy. So if you and Vaughn today when you went out there today, what were you trying to get out of today? Uh this ain’t going to help us one bit Thursday because the wind’s going to be the opposite. But lets him see the course, where the rough starts, where it ends. I mean, that’s about it. I was just out there going, you know, we just hit wedge into 10, we could hit six iron, you know, in the windshift. What do you go into today for looking at? What do you What do you go Hold on. I’m bringing this over here. What do you go into today doing looking for? What are you trying to do? I’m trying to do a lot of things, but I’m trying to see the course, see the conditions, speed of the greens, how the fringes are, and a lot of areas here. Um, scoping it out. And then trying to feel better about my swing and game. Trying to hit it the right distance. I was trying to get distance control down. Feel like I was coming up short a lot. So I was trying to dial in my distance. Do you feel like you got better at that? Yeah. And just try to get sharper as the day went on and just feel better about everything and move a step forward to punching the gas. Not get there. Yeah. Step forward. So now before I go back to Coupe, I’m going to ask you one more question. So you had a day today. You’re not in the proam tomorrow. What do you look for tomorrow? Like what’s your goal when you go I know we’re going to hit balls probably about an hour or something like that. What do you What are you looking to get out of tomorrow? Um this will be good. I’ll actually know what I’m supposed to do tomorrow. Do tomorrow. We going to hit some balls mid irons out of the bunkers cuz he didn’t miss fairway. Hit it in the bunker. Coupe always wants everybody to hit fairway bunkers every time. I mean, for all the years, every time he if you got to get him to you got to get you got to get him to hit a fairway bunker shot. You got to get him to hit a fairway bunker shot. I mean, bunker shots should be, you know, according to the bunkers here. They’re good. But, uh, yeah, few bunker shots tomorrow. VT, what do you what what do you want to accomplish on I, um, I want to get sharper with my short game tomorrow. like to feel really good about my putting and touch around the greens. And then what do you do to do that? You just hit a bunch of shots or Yeah, I kind of just do it enough until I feel like the club feels really good in my hands and sometimes you just got to put in a little bit of time and then it uh Campbell soup beanie weenies. That was a can of beanie weeny and then it just starts to feel better and easier and um you know I’ll go about that a different couple different ways. I’ll try to hit some you know I try to hit a lot a bunch of random stuff and just try to get the feel of hitting things short and long and then speed and I think random stuff’s a big deal makes sense to him because that’s his you know his feel is putting it’s all very field based. I mean, I’m not out there drawing lines. Mhm. Getting technical and filming. No. No. It’s a golf course where if you’ve played it twice, either course, you know where to hit it. It’s Yeah. We don’t sell a picture book here. I think swing, you know, try to Sorry to cut you off, kid. Yeah. especially with the changes you’ve made, you know, in the just uh feel good, free, you know, try to be moving well and, you know, not trying to be technical, work on a couple things, you know, just staying on a couple things. Just kind of you want me just moving well and free, you know, feeling good, you know, not trying to that gives me more confidence than, you know, saying, “Oh, yeah, my swing right looks great.” or whatever, you know, it’s more like feel good. Yeah, he feels good doing it. Well, you know, I feel like I got a good good chance of swinging well on Thursday. Well, I mean, the years he’s put into it to stay healthy is tough. I mean, it really is. This game beats you up. Well, we were talking about it when we were up at Sage Valley, you just talk about like how you almost have to It’s different now. like you you have to go get take more time to get your body ready before you play now, right, than you used to be where you just kind of roll. You could roll out there, hit some balls, be ready to go. Yeah, I can vouch for that when we’re rooming together and he’s up at 4. Sorry, buddy. But I mean, hey, it’s what he has to do to get loose. Do you get up at four with him? I just for one second. He’s stretching. You don’t need to get your body ready, C. I’m always ready. I probably should stretch, but I didn’t for years, you know. I haven’t ever seen Coupe stretch. That’s about as much as I’m gonna stretch. I just look at the whole game as taking a process into the unexplainable. You know, Bryce and D Rambo and just the different things going on now. It’s like bizarre. Golf is bizarre right now. So, it’s our job and his job and your job and whoever is to make it back normal where people enjoy golf like they used to instead of treating it like days of our lives. You know, I don’t care who does what when, you know, let’s play golf, right? Let’s let the world’s best play the world’s worst as long as they’re pros, if they qualify. And, you know, unqualifying people. I don’t know how we got on live, but but we’re on it now. It’s hard to not do because it’s our life and it’s different now. It’s really It’s bizarre. You don’t like it. I It’s, you know, I can understand both points. I’m like, I don’t see Yeah, I’m the same way. I can see both sides of the story. Both sides. I see good and bad on both sides. And I kind of wish people handled it better. It’s a shame, but uh I think it’ll be back. It might not be in my time, but I hope it gets back to where it’s just fun. All right, so let’s get back to golf. Yeah, golf. All right. So, let’s talk about best practicers you’ve seen out there. Things you’ve seen people do on practice rounds or in practice where you go like Coupe. That was different, man. Like, or I can see why that guy’s good. You got some good practice stories. I know. Well, the the thing I always watch with I’ll never forget Beth Paige. Okay. When Lucas won because Monday it was raining so bad there was no one at the golf course, no volunteers. You know, people are waiting for it to just get cancelled, right? Hey, and we’re out on the range and I’m holding the umbrella. He’s hitting the balls and we’re not talking. And I’m thinking any moment there’s going to be either a horn or he’s going to say, hey, you know, I just want to hit a few. And he goes, let’s go. We went to number one. And I’m thinking, what in the world is wrong with this guy? And we played nine holes in the torrential rain by ourselves. And you know, in the end that paid off because you were used to playing. He was just ready for the rain. And that’s what Von’s talking about. Just he’s he wants to feel comfortable. And that’s what Lucas wanted to do is be comfortable in the situation. Me right there by him. Maybe with an o, you know, a little odifferous with some beer breath or whatever. He’s going to be right beside me. And he wanted to be comfortable, you know. So he gave it a test run. Got comfortable. We won it. Yeah. But that’s what he says. You just got to be make these guys have to feel good. Well, I think that’s a big deal, Von. Don’t you like being comfortable out there? I mean, you got to even if you’re not playing great. I mean, you got to get figure out how to get comfortable. Yeah, for sure. I mean, um, we’ve done it so much that we’re kind of already programmed a little bit, but Mhm., you know, that’s pretty good. That’s You ever get nervous? You ever Oh, yeah. You have to like people ask me that and it’s like, of course, that’s why I do this. Yeah, I get nervous all the time. You get nervous every time you play or not every time I play, but before these guys te like before we tee off on one every time, you know, or 10 on Thursday, there’s a little bit of a feeling. Yeah, that’s kind of numbed out for me somehow. First he was, you know, nervous in the early career and then What gets you nervous now? I don’t just when you’re near the top of the leaderboard, I get I start feeling good. Yeah, it’s exciting. It’s um it it can go both ways on you uh depending on how you can handle it. During co I think that was taken away from the game. Oh, that’s a good point because because to win without a It felt weird out there. It felt weird out there during co I remember walking around Colonial. It’s almost like this guy’s going to win because there’s not no static. Yeah. you know, it’s kind of just there were people that said that like, you know, even you had the majors and stuff, you know, where you didn’t have the full crowds and stuff like that and it totally different feel as good as the tournament was where you and I and Kobe Hey Colby stay uh in New York. Yes. What was that? That was uh Wingfoot. Wasn’t there a few? We went to Wingfoot together. There was no people. No people. It was so weird because it was one of the one of my favorite majors. There was a few people a few people, wasn’t it? Few people, but it was the one at Harding Park had virtually none or didn’t have any. But it that was a weird time. I’m glad we’re out of that. But I’m I’m happy to see Vaughn. You know, that’s really what I want to see in a player when I’m catting for him is for them to be comfortable and you know that’s that’s hard to do. All right. So from a catty’s perspective, can you tell Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday how guys play and how the week’s going to go or do you get totally surprised and it not matter? Totally surprised like Yeah. This game makes no sense. It’s just It’s almost like for me the better the guy hits it on Monday and Tuesday and the better I feel like and then you look up Thursday and you’re like how the hell and then you have a guy like where Monday Tuesday they’re they don’t play because they got the flu. Well, I mean, Lucas at Shinikok, I mean, you or at Wingfoot, excuse me. Wingfoot, remember? I mean, we were getting yelled at. Wasn’t even going to Yeah, I mean, that’s fine. You know, you come into this job knowing that that could happen, right? But like, you remember how bad it was and then by by Thursday didn’t miss the shot, right? And you know that’s how this I just enjoy this game because it changes every day when they wake up. You know it’s a different day and I think it’s a pretty good process to be able to stabilize yourself 4 days stay the same whether it be good or bad cuz I’m erratic. I’m like you know I could never do that for days. It’s Yeah. Well, he seemed Vaughn seems I mean I hadn’t been around as long but I mean it’s but you seem pretty you seem pretty levelheaded, pretty calm. Doesn’t seem to be Hey, he is on the outside but he’s just like we are. He’s passionate. He gets pissed and they used to call him volcano volcano. I mean come on. Did they really? Oh yeah, we did. Yeah, I had a Wait a minute now. Holding out on me now. Yeah, volcano. Yeah, he was he’s in there. The Hooters tour up somewhere, but he got rid of him. You know, he’s gone. Yeah, I used to just hold it in, try to, you know, do the right things, thinking the right things, and then I would just explode and I would, you know, Yeah. how easy it is to, you know, how lucky you guys are, you know. But, you know, our good friend Greg, Dr. Carton, he always talks, he’s a shrink, right? mental guy, but he always tells tells a bunch of my college and my junior players because, you know, they’re all trying to hold it in, you know. He always tells people, it was interesting like I had this parent one time that got pissed at what he told their kid. They were like, well, he told my kid that it’s okay, right, to let it. Yeah. Yeah. And and and I I was like, well, I mean, that’s his opin, you know, and cuz the kid was on the golf course, hit a bad shot, and he yelled or something, right? you know, went nuts and and but like but Greg was always like, man, like it’s the thinking that you’re not supposed to let it out and it’s the like and and that like where you bottle it up tense up that makes you worse. God knows his business, you know, letting it out. I always think that’s interesting ask people cuz like you know called you know volcano. Yeah. I always thought that until you get to the next shot a good rule was you can act the way you want to do whatever you Well, you carried a bunch in the days and the you’ve been in groups with Tiger. Sure. I mean, he would go off. He would go off after a bad shot, would he? I mean, yes, sir. I mean, until he got 20 yards away from the next shot and then he would retigerize. But I mean, Tiger, his his thing was farting on us. That was his deal. No. Oh, absolutely. He and Steve, they farted on us all the time. It was just I mean, that was their deal. And we missed them. I mean, I miss him guy. It was awesome. As bad as that sounds, I’ll never forget his. Tell us the best Tiger and Stevie fart story. Flint, Michigan. His 50th win. Uh, we’re on like 16T, I think it is, on Saturday. No, Sunday. Yeah, he won on Sun. Of course, he won on Sunday, but Steve Blast us with one and it was just, it was unbelievable. No, I mean the sound was a 10. Just Bose 10 and then Odiferous wise it was probably nine nine and a half just one of the best ever and just smiled you know Tiger go that’s nice and just their weird way of being loose and that’s just for the 50th time you know. Yeah. And I I’ll never forget that. His 50th win was at Flint. VT played well that week. Really well. He finished what? Fourth. Made a bomb on 18. Yeah. Sixth. Yeah. He remember VT’s been doing it as long as I have, man. Yeah. That was a great But it was back then those Warick Hills was so exciting to me. That was a fun tour. That was a great golf course. And and you had to caddy there because if you plack clubs, the holes went right by each other. And back then I was young, you know, and one night at a bar I I mean I was looking for somebody while I was in the bar. Yeah. You wouldn’t have ever gone to a bar by yourself. You were clacking your clubs today on and I go I know that wasn’t me. So don’t try to because I grew up catting at Augusta. You did not clack clubs there. And I’m like it’s country. Hey country. Mhm. But I’m like yeah it wasn’t me. You bull. But those days same country we roommed with at the Bruce. We never play courses like that anymore you know. And that was so fun. That tournament was Warick Hills, right? Warwick Hills. That’s right. Like just tight holes right by each other. They had great winners there, too. Yeah. Good. You know what I’m saying? Like that Tiger played every year and it was Yeah, that’s right. Buick. It was uh remember that one year we had like six Buick tournament. So exciting. I mean, it was Buick Open, Buick Championship, Buick. It was like Buick and yeah, they’ve sponsored so many tournaments. But uh you know, I think we can get this gang going and all I’m here for is help VT. Well, we’re having fun. Yeah, he’s getting better. We’re doing good. Absolutely. We enjoy it. Yeah. I mean, we had fun today in a practice round. Today was a good day. I mean, practice. I’ll tell you what, front. Get back to practice. Let’s talk about Let’s get back to practice. Yep. We want to help the people, right? What do you need to get out of practice? Okay. Well, like VT said, you need to feel comfortable, lose, and comfort. So, VT, when you go practice, not not at a tournament, just when you go practice at home, what’s your goal when you go practice, what what are you trying to get out of practice? Uh, he didn’t know we were going to ask him this. He didn’t know we were going to ask him this. He’s got an answer. That’s changed through the years. I mean, it was I think younger was more still working on technique and learning the ins and outs of the game. And then now it’s more like just keeping it fresh. And I feel like I’ve already learned how to do it all, you know, most of it. I mean, putting wise and chipping and paints are great. I just got to keep in touch with it and just try to stay, you know, sharp and just try to I know a couple things that I always feel and you know, a flop shot or something and I know these couple feels that I look for and I know when they feel bad and I know how to kind of fix them and then I just try to stay in touch with those things. You always go back to the same things really. Yeah. I don’t I don’t really try to change anything. In my opinion, that’s what like the practice round helps the process of play Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. because when they get to a situation, they know what they’re going to do because they’ve done it instead of standing there going, you know, I don’t know what to do. And, you know, run into that a lot these days, some slow play. And it’s, you know, it’s that’s what a practice round is for is to learn the golf course and the chipping and the misses. From a teacher’s point of view, the thing I liked today and other times like is you had basically one thing you were trying to do and you had one feel you were trying to get and we talked about a little bit but you just kept trying to do the same thing all the time. And to me the folks that get lost or were like they’re really like in that death spiral are the ones where every every shot and I’ve had players do that. I mean it it you know it doesn’t matter who you are you’re gonna have somebody do that right but we’re like every hole is well what if I did this or they’re trying something you know and sometimes from four to five will be different totally I mean they’re not even close the same you know I think right I mean I think that’s but I think that’s you know but I also think that speaks to why you know coup you said hey you’re things are starting to turn for the better and better because I mean you can’t just change something or not change but get back to doing something and I’ll I’ll tell you what a a professional cab looks for. Okay. This is good. Okay. We look at divots. Really? Yes. Like cuz there’s people out there now. There’s some teachers that got on me one time on social media cuz they said cuz they said you can you can look at a bit tell if I got a baller or somebody’s searching for something. All right. I want to know what do you look for in a divot? I watch the depth like from where it starts to where it ends. And usually it’s the same with a good player. And it’s always a little toe heavy. Really? Yes, sir. Okay. It’s heel heavy. Oh, you said tow heavy. If it’s heel heavy, inconsistent shot digging. Really? That’s I mean I’m sure I look for little bitty nice little pelts out. Okay. So, you like it I look for it I like it I like it to be the same I said this today on one of the host. I like it to be about the same width at the end and the beginning. Beginning. Correct. Yes. Quick story. I played with the This will be good. This will be good. We getting VT loosened up. The Phoenix 7. I think it was 12 is a par three. Okay. Play with Phil. Yeah. And uh that’s a tight little group. That’s 11, isn’t it? Is 11, isn’t it? 10’s a par 4 and then 11. 12. 12. Okay. My bad. You’re right. 10 11 then 12. Then 13’s par. Always wind blowing towards that water. Yeah. Yeah, fell hit a sixiron and his divot was about the width of a butter knife, right? And it was going 30 yards to the right. Mhm. Yeah. And it was like I’ve never seen a divot like that. That’s because of his hand. He’s so heavy. Right. But it was so far. Yes. You know, to the right, which for me would be left, right? I just can’t It blew my mind. He had a good shot. It was like, right, holy cow. Like, yeah, I’ve learned came out online. Like, how do you I’ve seen if I swung that far left or something. I mean, it would I went and watched watched Severino Balister hit August one day. No, I want to hear this. I went over there and looked at the divots and they were they looked as if he had a weird club like it was bowed in the middle of the club. You know what I mean? On the bottom like it was a just a thin strip of grass gone. And I’m like to hit it to do that you have to be puring it. I mean it was amazing how little bit of turf he took. But like you said it was the same distance in front I mean behind it as it was about this long. Mhm. And I mean it was that means the impact was quick and it God knows where it went with Sevy. I mean but it was the oddest looking divots. I I just I couldn’t figure it out like why they were so skinny. I still to this day don’t know if it was good or bad. Those guys got to have the just best hands ever. I don’t know. Right. Oh, I mean Phil and Sevy, I mean, you know, I mean, I think it also goes to like when you say you talking about ball strikers like that, like I mean, you would never say Sevy or Phil are the greatest ball strikers. They’d be some of the greatest players that have ever played, but you would never say they’re the greatest ball strikers. But with those hands go two of the greatest short I mean, they’d probably be one. I mean, they’d have to be one and two Avi never opened his club up or shut it down. It was always square in the bunkers like and same with Jose who learned from him. Mhm. Never manipulated the face but could hit it soft and high like with a square face. It was like incredible. But the best bunker shot I’ve ever seen in my life was Freddy at 16. All right. You just don’t do that. What’d he do? He hit it over the green on 16 on Sunday when he won. Yeah. And he onehanded it. Yeah. That was a classic. Just onehanded that baby up there and just sat down and actually stopped short of the hole. It was like, are you kidding me? How do you hit that shot? I mean, with one hand. That was sick. You know, he cast it is what he did. But the funny thing about that, I mentioned it because today we were watching TV before we went to practice and Fred was on the phone on one leg hitting balls and they typical Fred warm up. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that on Instagram. That is so him, you know, just talking on the phone, balancing and you know that that was his thought for the day was get balanced and he was doing it on the phone. Whatever it takes, do it. Whatever it takes. Yeah, whatever it takes. But, uh, I think these guys need to cut back on the gym, enjoy life a little bit, and, uh, practice less, trust yourself, go play golf. I think guys are getting smarter about how they practice, so you don’t have to beat I mean, you know, you don’t see you don’t see a ton of guys out there just wearing balls out all day anymore. I don’t think since Liv, here we go back to live. It’s changed. You You don’t have to practice. Yeah, it does seem like less there’s less range time these days. In my opinion, that’s happened. The range can be empty sometimes since that one day at TPC when we were called off the course but told not to come back. Everything’s changed the day of co that’s you know what I mean? Everything’s just except for our you know we’re fine but but we’re talking about everybody else. Holy and they practice too much. Cuz if you got bad going on and you practicing, well then you going to do it constantly. Fix it and quit. Well, I think that goes back to what we said earlier. So, we kind of start wrapping it up like whereas Vaughn’s been doing the same thing. You’re working on the same thing or you’re trying the same feel. And that it’s hard to tell people not to do it, but man, when you get in that rut and that circle of where you’re trying something different every day or every swing, I mean, I’m sure you’ve been there. We’ve all been there that have been around it. Plays golf. Yes. Not fun days. I mean, no, but like it’s like when you’re out of it, you’re like, “What the hell was I doing?” Man, that doesn’t make any sense. Right. Why you say that, Tony? I think about Pebble Beach after we missed the cut. Yeah. I don’t want to bring back. No, no, that’s a good story. We just, you know, he’s lost on the range, has nothing. And he goes, “Give me one thing.” And Tony told him, “You know, you said you wanted to draw the ball and that’s what we’re here to do.” hit a hook. That’s what we did. You know, from that point on when he said that, then it was different cuz he was actually a little aggravated. Mhm. You know, he he was to the point he was aggravated with golf and he it didn’t get like that often. But Tony said, “You said you wanted to draw it, hook it, you know, and then it just went smooth.” But that’s why we thank y’all for being, you know, doing that for us and getting these guys dialed in. You remember that time with the remember that time when the couldn’t hit a 3-wood or couldn’t hit a driver, but we could hit a 3-wood and then you know that L I know Lucas would say the same thing. We just sat there on the range one day Von and we hit he hit hundred hundreds of 3-woods and I’m the whole time going drivers. No, the driver was good. The 3-wood was bad cuz the 3-wood we were hitting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I’m like what are we doing? I go you hit five bags of ball. We got to have threewoods. three-wood course, which he was right. But then, you know, don’t do it until the to the point to where you, you know, your muscles are sore the next day and you can’t I mean, you got to, you know, I think there’s fine line between being prepared and I think we talked about that today out there. Yeah. I mean, once you know, I thought that was great with you today. Like, got done with 18. You want you going to hit any balls? No, I’m good. I mean, I did good. I know what I’m doing. But, you know, that’s the time to hit them in my opinion is directly after you get done. feel the same, muscles are the same, go do it if you’re going to do something and get it figured out then not go eat lunch or just don’t take a break. Just, you know, yeah, just try to work on the things then when you just go straight to it, get it done, leave, you know, and you know, it’s going to be different in the morning if it matters or not. You know, golf, your body’s different every day when you Have you had many times where you didn’t play good first round, you went to the range and you found something and then played really good the next day? Can’t recall one. Well, how about Pebble? He he maybe with the putter or something, but putter. I don’t think I ever discovered a swing fix in the like, you know, but maybe made a tweak or something, but like on a putt putting something dramatic, though. In the 20 years with Lucas, every time he said, “Cooper, I might have found something.” He did, you know, go I think I found something. It was like I’m like, “Oh, yeah. Here we go.” Yeah. But, you know, I think they know when 100,000 times and it never has been, right? Well, We had it the week of pebble and like when we talked I thought that I didn’t know and I’m like what did you do good that week like it’s kind of out of the blue I thought it great and he rolled it nice today. Oh he always rolls it nice. Never add how about one read one. He hadn’t asked for anything. Never. Well I wouldn’t either if he rolls it as good as me either. No I like that that they’re confident in their you know in how they read Greens and his speeds. really good. Now, when we one time when early in our little venture here, get a putt to the hole one day and I did drop a putt or a club back behind the hole and go at least get it to here. You know, most of them that don’t get there don’t go in. There might be a few of them, but he’s a legend. Let’s get them there. And he does a great job with that. BT can putt the ball. Oh my god, he we was rolling pure today. Yeah. No lines. I love that. Like when they start to setting up a line, I start getting worried like is it vision the stroke? What the hell’s going on here? And he just drops that ball down there and putts it. And I like that. Coupe, you’re the best. You guys are VT. Thanks for hanging out with us. No problem. Keeping me and Coupe company. Absolutely enjoying it. Thanks for listening to this edition of the Tour Coach. I want to take a minute and thank Cordy Walker and Golf Science Lab, as well as my sponsors, Shrixan, Buick, Bushnell, and Vineyard Vines for helping make all of this possible and helping me share my insights with you. If you like what you’ve heard, why don’t you check out more on the Decegolf.com to find out more about my teaching, my travels, and where you can find out more about me. [Music]