Gordon Ryan Ethers Dillon Danis, Provides Update on Stomach Issues, When He’ll Compete Again

The Ariel Helwani Show: Gordan Ryan joins the show to break down RAMPANT steroid use in Jiu-Jitsu, roasting Dillon Danis, when he’s fighting next, working with the UFC, and more.

0:00 – INTRO
2:15 – Training with Bo Nickal
7:10 – Breaking down Tom Aspinall’s wrestling game
10:20 – Stomach issues
16:00 – Steroids in Jiu-Jitsu
23:00 – Beef with Dillon Danis

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let’s go to our uh last guest of the day the one and only Gordon Ryan I ran through his entire resume uh so he won’t be impressed with this intro but here we are wow I’m impressed with this this setup holy [ __ ] what is this is this in your home this is in my home we have our our Trophy Room behind us and uh I’m in a throne that was a Christmas gift by Gary tonin so wow yeah it’s like my where I do uh all my interviews if I can this is an incredible setup well done and appropo given your success and also you know given your nickname by the way I see top right you have some knives over there what’s going on over there yeah so uh John is Like a Knife fanatic our coach John dener so yes whenever uh whenever we like win a big tournament or we get promoted he’ll like gift us a knife or a sword U so I have them like all over I have swords in the wall next to me here uh so we have like it’s a combination of like metals that I won belts that I won like a bunch of different you know things that people gave me and then uh knives that that John give us so uh I’m not used to seeing you without the uh the gray hair these days why why the natural look I’m kind of incognito and uh people even my friends get get uh get confused especially when I shave my face and I have no beard yeah um but it’s cool because I can go out and compete with the white hair and then like if I don’t want to get like Ultra harassed and public because everyone like knows the white hair so if I go back to my natural hair uh and I just stop dying it then people like don’t recognize me as much so if I want to kind of go Incognito then I just go back to the back to the brand and and why Incognito right now I just like I haven’t been competing um you know ADCC happened um and I got a little bit injured I was rehabing my knee after abcc uh and then we’ve just been trying to open up our school so I’ve just been working on trying to get the school and Austin opened up that we’ve been working on for years now so that’s my main priority any chance it it opens this year yeah we should be open in the next couple of months I’m hoping so we’re up in North Austin uh and I’m hoping that we should be open the absolute latest by June but people keep asking me and I keep telling them two months and it’s been like two years so I don’t want to nobody quote me but uh I think we should be open the next couple months okay uh good luck with that by the way we just spoke to uh to Bo nickel I didn’t really plan this but you guys were back toback and I saw you guys training together what was your experience like with him oh it’s is the best um you know just a super nice guy we trained together um you know we went out and uh I took him around Austin a little bit and uh tried to coers him to come back to Austin because he’s such good training um but you know he’s a he’s a very exceptional um very exceptional athlete he uh he he’s he’s really he just wants to learn like he puts himself there’s a lot of wrestlers who come in and uh and just try to not get submitted try to avoid submissions but Bo really comes in with a learning mindset where you know he was playing leg locks with some of the best leg lockers that we have in the gym um he was playing guard he was playing bottom position um and so you know his his ability to number one just throw his kind of kind of throw his ego out the door and put himself in positions where he isn’t really good and and be willing to get submitted and and put himself in bad positions uh and his ability to learn like when he asks a question he he knows what questions to ask which is which is very rare with someone who um was coming from a completely different martial art uh but he asks the right questions he’s willing to learn uh and he learns very quickly so he’s going to be uh he’s going to be an issue I think in the in the middleweight division do do you feel like he’s just scratching the surface with his Jiu-Jitsu obviously we know about his wrestling background but he’s still you know a Neo fight when it comes to to MMA do you think there’s there’s much more that we can see out of him from a grappling perspective yeah for sure I think that uh I think even if I mean obviously he has you know some potential issues with the UFC allowing him to do so but I think if he jumps into some actual grappling competitions like he was doing before he was fighting in the UFC uh just for fun like it’s not GNA if he jumps into like a Fight Pass Invitational for example um even if he loses to a good guy it’s not really going to do anything for his mixed martial arts brand it’s not going to negatively impact him um but just having him even jump into some grappling tournaments just to kind of get the experience um you know a lot of people were criticizing him uh you know in his in his last fight for you know kind of being being a boring fight or whatever the case is but I looked at that fight and I was like there is no way that Bo fought this way other than to get experience on the feet at a high level like in front of a crowd and I asked him and he was like yeah I was just trying to get experience out there and uh you know you know play in the feet I don’t really play in the feet too much I have a lot of early finishes and I was like yeah exactly so people don’t understand like he’s he’s very he he wants to learn um he wants to get the experience he wants to get the time in the octagon um and I I think you know in so far as Jiu-Jitsu and mixed martial arts I think he’s kind of just scratching the surface obviously he’s a very credential wrestler um and uh you know American Legend but I think that uh there’s just so much more for him to learn um you know pretty much in in every area so I’m excited to see him especially for his next fight against the against the rder because I’ve trained with both of these guys a fair amount so I’m excited for that uh we saw in in November you in in Jones’s corner um and I’m wondering now as you’re getting a little bit older do you think more MMA fight are you open to this do you want to coach more of these guys or is this just a coincidence yeah um it was funny with John you know he kind of just messaged me on Instagram we had talked a little bit back and forth but he messaged me one day and he was like hey can you come out and uh I was actually helping him for the first uh the first Stipe uh fight that one that got cancelled and thank God I left like uh before he got hurt I don’t want to blame me on that blame me for that uh but then you know I came back uh it was kind of like a weird timing because I was in Camp for ADCC and I was competing in ADCC and I was like I can’t come during the camp but right after the camp I’ll come because he was fighting in November and abcc was August so I uh I was like after the camp I’ll come and I ended up staying for like six weeks or five or six weeks I think it was um for that camp and uh I’m always willing to help coach especially high level guys and it just so happens that Jon Jones was the first high high level guy that asked me to come and be part of this Camp so I think it was a great experience for for for myself you know definitely as a as a highle coach and you know and for him because whenever people come to us it’s just Jon is coaching because John is just the coach of coaches so it’s always people taking John’s classes but because I got to go to him in Albuquerque um I had the you know kind of the uh the opportunity to explore uh you know highle coaching where you know I was one of the guys in charge um and obviously Greg and and the other coaches were you know ahead of me because they’ve been with John for so long but you know just being one of the core coaches and you know being there just as a coach and not as also as an athlete was was a really cool experience so I have I I’m open to coaching high level guys um you know in the UFC but John was just the first person to ever asked me so wow that surprises me but good on him if if this Aspen fight comes to fruition do you think you’ll you know given his grappling background do you think you’ll work with him again yeah I think so um you know that’s totally up to him like I you know I’ve worked with a lot of UFC fighters in the past uh but it’s just been like you know kind of sporadic training where they’re they’re they come to Austin and they ask me questions but like you know doing the doing the whole Camp almost with John was like my first like real coaching coaching experience um but I think that uh I think that him and and Greg and the rest of the coaches uh were pleased with you know my ability to you know translate my knowledge into you know into into his game and uh and work with him the way that he learns so uh it would be my honor If he if he wants to have me back uh coaching him for uh I lost my light I don’t know why um but it would be an honor to uh to coach him for the Aspen all fight because uh that’s that’s a real heavyweight he’s a he’s a huge guy he’s super explosive he can he can finish a fight at any time um and he has a good takedowns he’s good striking so he’s he’s uh he’s he’s definitely a problem so it would be an interesting problem to solve along alongside John and the rest of the coaches what do you think of Aspen’s Jiu-Jitsu um he’s he’s definitely got good good takedowns he’s got decent Jiu-Jitsu um the one fight I saw of him uh of him losing he actually got heal looked and the heel look wasn’t uh wasn’t particularly tight I mean that was a long time ago and Tom obviously has got gotten a lot better since then but uh the one time I did see him actually lose a fight was was to was to a heel hook and it was not a particularly tight heel hook uh so grappling is definitely a situation where I think that we can win the exchanges especially because uh you know John already has a grappling background and uh he’s just he’s he’s very good at putting guys down very good at mixing everything up very very good at holding guys down so I think that uh I think that grappling is definitely a place where we can where we can win the exchanges but I think that Tom’s grappling is is up there with the rest of the guys by the way when you were with John did you I’m assuming the answer is yes but just curious uh did you roll with Gable stevon and and and if so what did you make of that experience yeah Gable’s great um it was again right after ADCC so I was coming off like a pretty bad LCL uh tear and ACL and and PCL spray in a grade 2 LC Al te so I wasn’t going to go like super hard with gble because he was like 300 lounds at the time and he’s like already Uber explosive so I just didn’t want to get hurt but we just did like some light hand fighting uh and some some training on the ground nothing too crazy it was like very light just kind of getting a feel for one another and then you know we were both we were both there for John like we both understood the assignment and understood that like you know we’re here to do our thing but you know our primary focus is Jon Jones getting ready to fight for the heavyweight title so um you know me and him mostly took on a coaching role and then whenever John needed a body uh that was that was our job uh your your your health issues and in particular your issues with your stomach well documented um where are we at now how are you feeling these days uh my stomach’s still uh not great but I’m alive so I can’t really complain uh you know it was really really bad for the ADCC camp and leading up until the abcc camp it’s kind of gotten you know a little bit better now uh but it’s still not great uh so other than my stomach I’m I’m pretty healthy like my ankles got a little hurt at abcc my knee got a little bit hurt at abcc but I’m not really too concerned about that the main concern is just my stomach trying to get that back on track I actually have a appointment with my doctor like I think early next week my stomach doctor so we’ll see how that goes how is your diet like are there are there certain foods that just kill you that you have to stay away from is it very restrictive these days um I try to stay away from like fast foods or anything hard to digest like anything that’s like Ultra processed yeah and hard to digest kind of just Fs in my stomach for a while uh spicy food sometimes sometimes gets me um so just clean clean food most of the time like I’ll have I’ll have like a cheap meal here and there I’m like kind of fat right now just cuz I haven’t been like I’ve been traveling and haven’t really been doing too much training because my my knee’s been hurt uh like hard training so I’m like kind of like a a little fat guy right now but uh mostly clean stuff um and then I’ll have some I have a burger sometimes or pizza sometimes so okay what is what is fat for Gordon Ryan um my abs are like barely visible um my my my my genetics like my my dad would always get like a little like like fat down by the belly button and like the muffin top so like that’s where I like start to get fat just with my genetics so uh I’m like a little a little pudgy right now uh by my midsection for me but uh once I get back in shape it’ll give me like a month and it’ll it’ll it’ll move up to my biceps and traps it’ll be fine well when I asked you about your stomach uh you said that you’re alive so all is good and I I’ve seen you I think refer to yourself as as being like half dead when you competed in ADCC and you only kind of did it because of your relationship with them and you wanted to help them out and whatnot was it was it that dire um ADCC was rough like I was going through that camp so it it was supposed to be it’s supposed to be a 12 week Camp officially and then I do like a a four-week unofficial Camp just because I like to do more than most teams do like 12we camps I like to do an unofficial 16we Camp um so for me that entire 16 weeks uh my stomach issue kind of progressed and there were some things that changed and it’s not relevant too much right now I don’t want to go too too much into detail but I end up having Mass Cell Activation Syndrome so every time my my heart rate would go up um I would just immediately get super nauseous so because of that the full 16 weeks I wasn’t able to finish like one single session going through like either just like I got there and I would drill and then I would start training and my heart rate would go up and I’d like start dry heaving and have to stop um or I wasn’t be able to drill some days uh so it was like the last 10 days of the camp I messaged Mo and I was like hey I’m like 99% sure I’m not going to be able to do this but I’m gonna like I’m gonna try and I just was like when do you need an answer by and he’s like well at least give me like a week’s notice and I was like okay well we have to leave in 10 days to go to V uh and in that in those 10 days I’ll give you an answer and that 10 days like I just barely managed to like finish a session and like do like a hard roll with like you know one or two of the guys at the end of the class and I used that to like get my timing back from my wrestling and like used to be or just get used to having hard matches uh so I basically had a 10-day camp for that ADCC and I was just dragging myself through it and I was like this is just absolutely miserable I and then I was actually going into the match with pennet and I just like chuckled to myself in my head and I was like I have no idea how I’m here right now but uh we made it work so I can’t really complain a few weeks back you posted something on Instagram and I’ve I’ve looked at this picture for a very long time and I still can’t believe that is the guy on the left actually you is that really you yeah so this is this is so the guy on the left this is before 2017 ADCC and I was doing a massive weight cut so I was competing at 88 kilograms which is 194 and I was about I was cutting from like 225 and I was like 200 lb in that picture um the picture on on the right is me at my biggest after I got my tonsilectomy I have my tonsils removed and I have my deviated septum fixed so I couldn’t do Jiu-Jitsu my stomach was actually doing like pretty good here I couldn’t do Jiu-Jitsu but I could lift weights so I was just lifting weights and eating and uh I was like 245 so it’s like a 45b weight difference from left to right wow and so are you closer to the guy on the right these days uh in weight not in uh not in like a fat like fat 245 right now fair enough anytime you know like there was the whole thing with Mikey musami with the the PDS and your name always gets brought up uh your stance on it now I I saw you respond to him in December but it feels like anytime someone wants to talk on this to Topic in Jiu-Jitsu they they come after you because you’re so open when it comes to this particular topic how do you how do you feel about it this these days yeah I mean I have a full video that I I did a breakdown on my YouTube channel it’s just Gordon L Jiu-Jitsu like all my other handles I did like a like a 30 minute rant on like peeds um but you know at the end of the day first of all steroids have been rampant in Jiu-Jitsu for like decades and decades and decades like this is not a new thing where you know steroids are just now starting to come into the sport like the Brazilians have been doing steroids like since like the like the 19 like the 1900s um so uh that’s not it’s not new to the sport number one and number two it’s not illegal if you want people to stop doing it then make it illegal so people like oh you’re cheating this you’re cheating that it’s like the definition of cheating is to break the rules like GRE for example would be to break the rules poking someone the eyes would be to break the rules using Peds is not against the rules in any of the organizations that I compete in so until it’s against the rules until you change the rules and make it illegal people on Peds which everyone is on Peds and people on Peds aren’t breaking any rules so forgive my ignorance like even UFC Fight Pass Invitational they don’t test none of them test no um IJ Jeff noie world noie worlds and worlds I believe test um I’m not 100% sure they may have started testing noie pans and pans I’m not 100% sure uh and the way it used to be I believe was that they tested every other Podium winner so if it was like oneway class yes one we class no one weight class yes one weight class no they may test all the winners now but it’s only the winners and it’s only on the day of the competition so there’s no random testing um so basically if you just cycle off you can beat the tests with like just doing some math in your head and like cycling off properly before you have to compete but none of the other organizations besides ibj GF to my knowledge are are testing guys do you think that’ll ever happen or do you think it will remain like it is now um well I think it could happen the one problem that we have in Jitsu is that there’s not one governing body so let’s say for example that UFC Fight Pass decides to start testing athletes so unless unless you’re going to have athletes being exclusive which is a whole another issue let’s say I I’m competing as an athlete for UFC Fight Pass and these guys are testing and then I go to compete in ADCC and these guys aren’t testing that means that you’re gonna have gu you’re gonna have guys that are fighting at UFC Fight Pass against guys that are fighting at ADCC that don’t want to fight on UFC Fight Pass and the guys at ADCC are going to be Juiced up anyways so then if you’re an athlete on UFC fight pass and you’re getting tested now you have to go and you have to compete in these other organizations where they don’t test so you’re at a disadvantage because of the fact that one organization is testing and you have to be clean year round if they’re doing random testing and the and the other organizations aren’t and now so the only way to to really get past this is number one to have an agreement across the board on organizations which ADCC was pretty vocal about saying that they’re never going to test athletes like they don’t they don’t care they just want to see good MCH matches um so you either need to have an agreement across the board which I don’t think is going to happen or you need to have organizations that are going to sign athletes exclusive so that if you’re competing for Flo or for one or for the UFC you can only compete against athletes in those organizations and everybody in that organization is now going to be tested the problem is when you start talking about exclusivity now you need to bring money because in order to get people exclusive to your event you have to pay them a suff you know a much a much higher amount than you would uh to to have them compete non exclusive so and there’s not enough money really to start paying these athletes all this money to be exclusive um you know right now because there’s just not that much money in the sport as athletes so you run some problems when you start when you start having one organization test and not the other organizations because then you have clean athletes here that are still competing in the organizations with peeds being legal and then you still have athletes that are natural versus or more natural versus athletes that are not natural so you start to you run into some logistical problems here that people don’t really think about hey there sorry to interrupt just want to remind you if you haven’t already please do hit that subscribe button we would appreciate it very much and while you’re at it give us a thumbs up too you know we’ve got live shows interviews clips and a whole lot more going on on this here Channel all right now back to the show your relationship with UFC now do do you have any type of deal with them uh I no I’m I’m not exclusive you know I’m very good working relationship with UFC um the UFC they they’ve been very good to me they’ve been very Straight Shooters like you know I’m a big uh I’m a big like you know straight to yourf face like black and white guy and uh you know if they’re going to tell me to f off they’re GNA at least do it to my face whereas you know some some other organizations will like be super nice to my face and then try to do things behind my back uh the UFC just is like if they’re like screw you they’re like screw you um so you know I have I have a nothing exclusive with the UFC as of now um but I have a good working relationship with them for sure I saw some talk that maybe there was going to be like a tough type of show with maybe you and Mikey as coaches or something like that is there any truth to this yeah everyone keeps saying that I’m gonna be a coach against Mikey on some like ultimate like some grappling Ultimate Fighter show um you know I I talk I spoke a little bit about that like we I I kind of just like we put it in one another’s ears like I’ve been saying that we should do like a reality show for years to like build to build new stars um so you know I’ve definitely spoken to the UFC about it uh but there’s nothing set like you people are talking about like it being leaked that me and Mikey are doing this reality show I’m not as of right now that I’m not doing any reality show against Mikey um so there’s there’s nothing there’s nothing as of right now that that would that that’s happening do do you have your next match tournament Set uh nothing right now the my main thing is I’m just trying to get the school open like you know we’re trying to get mats ordered we’re trying to get like like security we’re trying to get the website started so I’m just trying to focus on getting the school open because it’s been way too long and uh I just need to get everything set like we need to hash out an affiliate program all these things which like you know what we’re going to have but um my maining is get the school open get it running and then probably compete sometime later in the year okay um last week last Monday I had uh Dylan danis in studio and your name got brought up um for those that missed it just want to play the clip real quick and and get your reaction here’s Dylan the Gordon one is one you should go after what in a grappling month yeah 100% if they pay why you do it we got we gotten big money but that would had to be a big money one because like I’m the only one that went to thing is that a fake [ __ ] screen no this is the window they just [ __ ] realized that that’s what do you mean you see the sun setting that’s hilarious what do you mean it’s a freaking window a [ __ ] Crow just came by yes that’s not real what do you mean you just saw the crow come by what do you think we have it on Loop hilarious We R Conor’s picture that’s a great poster by the way I always want that one which one that soccer Alum one so can I be honest with you Gordon in the moment I didn’t realize what was happening and I think you posted it on your story and I was like ah [ __ ] I I did get duped here because he he did a phenomenal job of changing the subject and so uh what is your reaction when you see this yeah he I mean you know Dylan Dylan is always GNA be Dylan you got to give Dylan props Dylan is like a guy that makes things happen like he he he manages to stay in the public eye not really having any credentials or skills of any kind like he’s never really won anything big in like he won noie pans like he was he was decent at one point in Jiu-Jitsu there was always a point where he was competing with the best guys but he can never really beat the best guys um like like his his record at black belt is 18 and 16 and uh we always had this kind of beef going back and forth we we we competed we actually had a relatively close match it was when like he was at his like near his peak in Jiu-Jitsu and I was kind of just breaking onto the scene uh we had a match in ADCC 2017 uh which I won and um you know ever since then he kind of been going back and forth he he won’t really like 100% acknowledge me and he like changed his subject like you saw because you know he’s you know I guess more famous to me so if he does acknowledge me uh he can’t argue with me on facts and statistics so he just knows that if he mentions my name if anything I’ll get more more popular because of him mentioning me so I mean uh you know I don’t have a problem with Dylan you know more power to him he uh he he makes things happen without actually doing anything like he’s he’s a master of like getting himself into big matches and then like pulling out or like just not like he doesn’t he doesn’t do anything athletically uh and he keeps getting these big matches and keeps thing in the public eye so uh yeah I mean nothing against Dylan he’s just uh he’s not a real athlete so I I don’t think he’ll mind me saying this because when I posted that you were going to be on the the program he responded um via DM and he wrote [ __ ] Gordon and I wrote why and he wrote you know why and I said I don’t and he said ask him he knows I’m The Only Money fight possible for him and I wrote where and he said any Jiu-Jitsu league and so do you feel like that is accurate are are are you staring at a situation where Dylan is the only quote unquote money match for you well I mean I also have DMS with Dylan like one time he wanted to fight me and I sent him my schedule of where I would be and he didn’t show up uh the other times I was like hey he like was like talking [ __ ] and I was like hey do you want to compete like what do you need to compete and I was like I can make a match happen I can get you paid what do you want to actually compete against me and he he just like kind of brushed it off and he was like you’d be lucky to compete against me and I was like okay man like I don’t know I don’t know what else he want me to do um I’ve offered to compete against them uh you know plenty of times both publicly and privately I’ve offered to put up my own money uh to have my teammates compete against him um you know in bet matches things like that I don’t really know what else I have to do dyl’s is very interesting because Dylan doesn’t actually do anything to make money so unless he’s like a guy who like invested in Bitcoin and like 2009 or his family has money like there’s nothing Dylan actually he always talks about money and like money fights and this and that there’s nothing Dylan actually does to make him money like he doesn’t promote he’s got a ton of Instagram followers Twitter followers whatever doesn’t really promote anything on there uh and just teach anywhere he doesn’t do is you know as far as I know he doesn’t teach he doesn’t compete I don’t even know even know how Dylan makes money uh but it’s definitely not through competing it’s definitely not through teaching it’s definitely not through having sponsors because he has no sponsors like the the people who follow him are kind of laughing at him and not with him so they wouldn’t like buy anything that’s like Dylan Dennis merchandise or anything like that so I don’t really know how Dylan makes money other than he has his family has money he he he does have this fight against KSI coming up next week yeah and you know he’ll make he’ll make you know a little bit of money doing that but I think it’s similar to the to the fight that he had with Logan where it was like Dylan was just the guy that was there because he like talked [ __ ] and K can get beat up I don’t think that like I don’t think that Dylan and Logan were making nearly the same amount of nearly the on nearly the same pce structure and I don’t think that Dylan KSI will be on on the same pce structure um so like it’s not like Dylan is is like doing one of these fights and then he’s getting $10 million and he can kind of chill you know maybe he’s if I had a g he making a couple hundred grand 500 Grand something like that like it’s not an absorbent amount of money where he can just like not do anything for like three years after by the way that was wild when you showed up when you showed up to the the weigh-ins for his fight against Logan uh I don’t think we’ve talked since then I remember seeing you on the way home but like how did that all how did that all come about did Logan just call you that week and say come on down uh yeah he messaged me because he knows that we competed and we had some beef back and forth um I actually knew Jake um not well but I I I had met Jake and had a dinner with Jake um at a mutual friend’s house uh in Puerto Rico um so I kind of I kind of knew them through passing and then uh and Logan you know just found out that like my one of my hobbies is to troll Dylan and he was like hey can you come down and just like talk [ __ ] to Dylan and I was like yeah for sure and then uh the second Dylan saw me he got like super pumped up uh and then he had that boxing match which again more more credit to Dylan for what he did in that in the actual boxing match because it didn’t actually you didn’t actually get a conclusion like it wasn’t like the match ended and like Logan outright won and he got his hand raised and there’s a picture of Dylan next to Logan with Logan’s hand raised like he just started a fight towards the end and then the match got cancelled and they said that Logan was the winner and then that was it but like there was no like he he even finagled his way into that fight with Logan didn’t really do anything to get there besides like you know be a Instagram guy and then he ended up in a massive brawl which just brought him more publicity and he didn’t actually he he lost the fight but he didn’t really lose the fight like they didn’t didn’t go to the scorecards and then he he lost the fight he just he just kind of finagled his way in there finagled his way out and then like onto next thing then he was like I’m going to fight in the UFC and they were like no do you think you guys ever compete against each other again no there’s no way um you know Dylan hasn’t competed uh in JSU in years uh he’s 18 and 16 as a black belt 18 wins 16 losses uh he’s one and three at ADCC so ADCC is where we competed it’s our Olympics it’s the biggest most prestigious tournament we have Dylan’s record there is one and three uh Dylan doesn’t really have any accomplishments in Jiu-Jitsu number one to even Merit competing against me but I would just do it just because he’s like a funny guy on on Instagram who like likes to talk [ __ ] and like that’s it it’s just like a fun thing for me to do but uh there’s no way that he’ll ever compete against me now he’s not even he’s not even an athlete he doesn’t even train anymore he just like posts online like once he started hanging out with McGregor his like athletic career kind of just fell off the cliff is there any chance you compete for uh UFC see this year I’m hoping so yeah uh you know I’m hoping that you know P pass is is throwing some money into Jiu-Jitsu I think Dana just said they were doing 10 to 12 million this year so uh it’ll be exciting um you know I’ll see what events they have later in the year and kind of go off of that um and until then just trying to help them you know build a sport and promote is a very you know very young sport you know in so far as being a professional sport like a serious professional sport I think the UF is doing a good job uh of uh of pushing it you know trying to push it mainstream so I’m just here to help however I can and then when uh when the school’s open and we have everything set and I’m feeling okay then I’ll hop back in and hopefully beat some people up and I remember the last time we spoke you know you had the one deal and you said like you kind of owed them because you weren’t able to compete is there any chance we ever see you in one or has that ship sailed well so you know I I felt bad because uh you know one one was was paying me and you know just as I signed the contract my stomach got so bad that I couldn’t compete and they were they were still uh they were still paying me and uh you know then they wanted to sign me exclusive and you know it just didn’t the numbers didn’t really make sense to be exclusive because they were trying to make all their athletes exclusive and I was like we could we couldn’t come to an agreement and I was like listen even though we couldn’t come to an agreement like you guys been paying me all this time you guys have been supporting me um I feel like I owe you something for that so I offered to do a match for free and they’re like well uh they’re like oh well that’s that you know that’s really kind of you but you know we’re only we’re only competing with exclusive athletes uh you know from this point forward so uh I okay no problem so you know I don’t have anything against one you know I have a great relationship with shant Tre uh but uh it just it didn’t work out um you know numbers wise for exclusivity but I have nothing against competing competing for one I just uh if you know there’s there’s one guy that brings numbers in you know puts puts puts butts in seats in the sport um and it’s me like most of my most of the most of the tournaments that I compete on or organizations I compete for like I I bring in 12 to 15 times the viewership of the second of the second best guy wow um and view viewers so if if you’re going to want me to be explosive you got to pay me a lot of money makes sense that’s good business uh you’ve got instructional videos over at BJJ Fanatics your YouTube channel that you mentioned Gordon loves Jiu-Jitsu and also Gordon the king ryan.com where you can buy merch links to the instructional videos um and a bunch of seminar information and stuff like that so uh wish you the best appreciate you coming on great to catch up Gordon um and uh hopefully you get better soon and we’ll see you back out there competing later on this year thank you guys got a lot of good sound bites today that should be that should break the inter for the next few weeks I appreciate it thank you thank you Gordon all the best uh there he is uh Gordon Ryan great stuff and uh what a world what a world this Jiu-Jitsu world you know I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again uh there’s there’s high drama in it there’s always a lot of fun things to talk about great personalities they do a great job with the personalities and uh you know there’s there’s there’s different people who have different beliefs and you know the the steroid stuff and all this there’s there’s a lot of meat on that bone and the UFC is very smart to get into it thanks for watching this video before you go if you haven’t already hit that subscribe button for us also give us a thumbs up leave a nice comment these things go a long way and while you’re here do check out the rest of the channel we’ve got live shows and full interviews clips and a whole lot more we’re doing big things here and we appreciate your support very much