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For the last two years, I have been fitting secondhand irons for beginners, mid- handicappers, seniors, juniors, you name it. And in that time, I have seen patterns. I have seen trends, and I’ve seen some big surprises. But today’s a fresh start as I want to show you guys what’s leaving the studio for good reason, what’s coming in, and the prices that these irons are now going to go for in 2025. and most importantly what I’ve learned over the last 5 years. So if you’re thinking about buying secondhand irons this year, here’s my top five tips that I’ve recommended to absolutely everyone as I’ve seen it kind of all before. Guys, how you doing? Welcome back to a brand new video. Simon here, SAS Golf Academy, where I do my in-person coaching and secondhand club fitting. And we’ve got a lot of new stuff coming in which I have to thank one of my local pro shops. As for them, this is all redundant. Now, even though this is brand new for me, great for videos, great for secondhand fitting, all of this is now redundant. And I’m going to show you the stuff that I’m then getting rid of as well. And you get to see this is one small glimpse I guess of the industry, the turnover of the industry and realistically how much waste there is in this kind of stuff. Fast fashion. Something that’s worth £600 2 months ago is now worth £400 due to well potentially it reaching the end of its cycle. Now, the professional that’s kind of gifted me all of this did ask that if I had club fits and people are looking for particular shafts and heads, he’s got a lot of shop stock on the floor, which he’s looking to get rid of basically at trade price. And I thought I might as well mention it in this video. So, if you’re curious or interested, message me at [email protected]. So, let’s turn up the house lights and let’s firstly talk about what’s staying, why it’s staying, then what’s leaving, and then obviously what’s coming in, as well as obviously my top five tips at the end of what to buy, how to buy, where to buy. Tailorade has been incredibly popular over the last two years. Specifically, if I’m looking for basically low spin, so someone that cuts the ball, adds a lot of spin, hits down on it, these are great. These are great in terms of value, especially the M5s and why I keep them in here. But also, I guess when we go into what’s leaving, this is kind of getting to the point where they probably need to leave the studio. Not because of performance, not because of tech, just well, basically being able to get hold of it. In terms of the P790, it’s been doing phenomenally well. Again, very popular, great looking head. More expensive because it’s so popular. But as I say to a lot of guys that let’s say get these for around 600, 650, let’s say five to pitch, five to catw, something like that. They hold their value. Like a 2016 P790 is probably the most wellheld valued piece of equipment in the game. Now, my ping wall lineup is pretty much set like this. basically £200 to £300, £300 to £400, £500 to 600. And as you might have seen, we got a new addition to this wall, but they just do the same stuff like in terms of forgiveness. And one thing I have learned in terms of branding is that there’s no point me really holding graphite in Tailor Made anymore. I might keep two shots as you can see on the end there. But if I’ve got someone that wants high launching forgiveness, maybe needs graphite now because they’re in the later part of their journey, I just come to this and I go, you can try the G425, but I promise you it’s very similar to the G410. And in terms of numbers, okay, these are a bit highofted nowadays, but in terms of numbers, the feel, the sound, the effect, I guess what we should say is virtually the same. And nine times out of 10, graphite inner ping, it just works. Now, the bit that I am excited about is the fact that we’ve got obviously i200’s, i210, but I’ve got a lot more ping heads now coming in that’s going to obviously give that kind of players more option. And I also think I have to keep this S55 as it is a bit iconic to be perfectly honest. I’m pretty sure Matt Fitzpatrick might have gone back to this already back in the bag. As you can see, I’ve already been having a sort out with my shafts. Um, a lot of these down here are now new shafts that are coming in. A lot of stuff’s obviously been put in back in bags and obviously now being made redundant. Again, one brand that’s been incredibly popular over the last two years is Tightless are more in terms of secondhand value because their retail price is so high, but they last a long time. They look classic. They blend very well. So, if you want like T100’s with T100 S’s, they blend well. If you want T200’s with T250s, they blend really nicely. I still love the idea of having old school tightless irons. I mean, it doesn’t look out of place. Like, a lot of you wouldn’t realize that that came out in 2018. That’s a 718 forged AP2. And some of these are now, let’s say, 6 years newer. It doesn’t look out of place. Titlers do a very good job at making things look sequential, seamless, and I think that’s why they are one of the most popular brands. But again, all of these heads are staying. Obviously, this AP1, great value. If you want tightless, that’s going to be like £300. This is a 716 AP2. So again, that’s going to be about £350. Okay, section two. This studio is looking like an absolute steak. So, good job. I’ve got no more teaching for the rest of the day. And again, let me know if you like these more behind the scenes kind of videos. Um, obviously I normally do just tutorials or drills, but if you like obviously this kind of stuff, then we can do more of it. Let’s talk about what I’m getting rid of. What’s going out and not because it’s bad, but actually some great value here that I have. I was just trying to get hold of it. For example, these Ping E1 I’m pretty sure it’s E1. Yeah, the Ping E1 heads. This is like your i200 for example or actually probably just an older version of let’s say your ping i25. You can pick those up for 100 quid 200 quid. And the only issue is I only had one head of it. So I’ve only got it in a black dot or no blue dot lie. And then if I was to fit it into people I go oh look here’s a great 200 quid option. Where do I even find the thing? That’s the main reason a lot of this is coming now out of the studio because obviously I’m fitting guys into our heads that then we need a certain shaft or certain profile of shaft and we maybe need a certain length and a certain lie angle and finding this Gmax silver dot which is 4° upright or let’s say finding a pink I25 head in a steel regular flex midkick point shaft quarter of an inch longer in the i25 almost impossible. able similar to let’s say the M1 head I have here. Again, good low spinning head from Tailor Made. It’s just difficult to find this in a certain shaft for that client that maybe needs five to pitch and wedge or even six to pitch and wedge. Again, obviously when we go through our top tips later, that would make more sense. But it’s not to say these aren’t great heads. And I’ll be sad to see some of these go to be perfectly honest because there’s some great technology. Like if I could somehow get this made at the price that it goes for secondhand and sell it, I’d have the most popular iron brand in the world. But it does go to show what I’ve learned, especially over the last two years, how much of this is just kind of rebranding, just remarketing, maybe slightly better looking heads, slightly better um sounding heads with foam and everything else. Now, this pile here isn’t going, but this is all my left-handed stuff. Actually, I think I’ve got a bit more left-handed stuff around the place as well. However, very little left-handed club fits. And I appreciate if you’re left-handed watching this now, you’re going, there’s never any stuff for left-handers. But I talk about that pro shop that’s obviously trying to get rid of some stock that they’ve obviously got a lot of. And what you don’t realize is so many pro shops are contracted to buy a certain amount of stock every year. So you have to buy 10, 15, 20,000 depending on your level of stock to go in your shop and that’s for every brand. So that’s your Ping, that’s your Mizuno, that’s your Tyler. So let’s say you’ve got four brands or three brands you fit for in your local shop. You got to put out 60 grand. Now you get to choice of what you put in there. And as I found out, I’ve probably had three off the top of my head left hand club fits over, I would say close to 7800 of the traditional club fits. It’s not to say I’m getting rid of these. I’m keeping them. They’re just going to have to go in a bag somewhere with a left-handed bag of shafts, etc. But I can see both sides of the coin. Left-handers, you can’t go into a shop and just see stuff that obviously you can try. and even left-handed fitting gear is also harder to come by. Lastly, Callaway. Now, it’s not to say that I’m going to get rid of these. I need to just do a better job of finding some more Callaway stuff. It just hasn’t got the right shafts and heads at the moment for me to do a proper club fit in it. Again, some of these I mean, I appreciate that’s left hand, but again, great value. What a great value head the Apex is. That’s going to be kind of a bit stronger, let’s say, than your AP2. That’s kind of more like an AP3 from Titless. Again, there’s some great heads here. XR, great value. The whole point being is I’m going to work on trying to improve that. But I quite like at the moment my Ping, which is basically uber forgiving, high launching. Mazuno for that kind of player player that just wants feel and everything else. Tireless kind of does it all. Tailorade, low spin, low spin, high spin, feel, basically everything. And to be honest, I quite like to get Swricken in it. I think Swricken is something that’s very underrated and I’d quite like to get their fitting kit in here as well. But it’s the only reason I’ve put them here. It’s not going to get rid of. I just feel like I’ve only got 78 shafts and I’ve only got so many heads. So that is my job. So I’ve just been sorting through the ping shafts. But as I said earlier, the bit that I do like, and it amazes me that these are all somewhat now towards the end of their spectrum, not going to be needed. can’t be club fitted for anymore is these more player heads. So, obviously, I’m quite excited to have them in here. This is nice for testing purposes. Again, I feel like the G425 is now going to go into my G410 like price bracket range. And I’ll go, you can get the G430 if you’d like, but it kind of does the same as the G425, but it’s nice to have them in here. These are kind of what I’m more excited about just in terms of giving that more player um iron head I should say in the ping category because ping if you don’t know a gray in terms of well these won’t have them but they’re all colorcoded. So for me, I quite like club fitting paying secondhand because I can go you are a blue dot in this I230 and you just go on to eBay and type in blue dot I230 and then we see tons of shafts and heads and sets that have that particular lie. The other ones I have to either trust the seller that says it’s standard length or 2° upright or I have to get them bent for the customer um and loft and lie changed. Now, there is a tightless head as well that I’m kind of not really that excited about, but we’ll see how it performs. And it goes in the same category as these. I’ve not seen I’ve had some clients in the past that have had these worked to a degree. They’re just odd shape to me. Like, I appreciate it’s like a hybrid, but it’s such a small face. And what I found is it’s so easy to hit the high top of the face here that it goes up, but then doesn’t go anywhere. It just spins a lot. It’d be interesting. Now, what you don’t know, what obviously I didn’t know, Tailormaid have changed their light um and fitting cars now. So, I need to get adapters for these to fit my old shafts as well as the newer shafts. So, that’s fine because I’m not really going to be needing to fit for well certainly not these anytime soon because as I said, Tailor Made holds its price incredibly well. Like, incredibly well. I’ve already got some of these already at the moment. And then we got some new Titus heads as well. Oh, I do need to give these a bit of a clean, but some T200’s, T350s, some more forgiving heads. I appreciate again that some people need this head. However, I just shove them in ping. That’s just my personal experience. However, why I am excited is for this bad boy, 620 CB. A lot of tall pros use this. The value of it is actually quite reasonable for a tightless head. And I think that’s this is going to perform very well this year to be perfectly honest. So, I’m quite excited about that. As well as some more T200’s, which is basically like your AP3 kind of replacement. Um, with the 150 and the 100 obviously underneath it. I think these are going to do quite well. They obviously just need a bit of a clean. And we’ve got some updated shafts, which is quite nice, but um I’ve got quite a lot of these already, but they got newer grips, which always helps as well. Which brings me on to my last collection of heads that going in the studio, the Mazuno Lot, which I’m very excited for. One of the reasons why Mizuno does okay in the secondhand market, but not great. Not quite like tightless and let’s say the P790, but it feels great. It’s again one of the reasons why I want Swixen in here. Um because the Japanese make great feeling, especially their forge irons, and some people just want Mizuno. They go, Simon, I just want Mizuno. which is good cuz I’ve now got more heads or let’s say more accessible heads. I’ve always had these heads like obviously you have the 923 here. You want the 923 hot metal but only want to spend £300 9 metal. It will feel the same, sound the same, perform the same. However, the 919’s are harder to get hold of now. As you can see here, like these I’m excited for again the prices that these are coming down to. And obviously we’ve got some newer versions again up here as well. However, I’m excited to now have these obviously in the studio as well as obviously updated shaft options. Now, let’s talk about what I’ve learned, especially fitting secondhand. Not just fitting in, well, kind of fitting in general, but especially fitting secondhand. Loft is a great telltale sign of whether you’re going to get on with the iron or not. Now, I appreciate some of you guys just starting won’t know, but it’s difficult. You could look at this head, this Mazuno Pro here, and go, there’s no way I can play with that. It’s a blade. It looks like a blade. But again, you stand next to the P790 and go, actually, I think the P790 would work for me. These are the same head. Let’s not get it twisted. But what I am saying is a loft is a great indication of what a game improvement iron is versus a blade. As you can see, this hot metal 923 JPX 28.5° loft. Again, the 245 here, 30°. So, that’s more of a players iron. If I put the 241 next to their 30° head, all of a sudden, the 30° head looks like a game improvement iron. The lower the loft, the more forgiveness. That’s important. The lower the loft, the more offset. That’s important. So, if you want more distance and help with your slice, go less loft in your secondhand irons. Number two is brand. And as I said, there are some brands that tinker more towards forgiveness and high launch. But more importantly, when it comes to brand, you’ve got to make decision. Do I want to go underrated like Wilson Staff? Like these are only a two years old and they’re going to be going for a great price soon. Or am I going to stick with something that’s same loft, same headstyle, same design, however, go to something that’s a bit more wellknown, bit more expensive. And the whole reason this is an argument is that Mazuno, Ping, Titless, Tailor Made, I could sell quite quickly. I can also buy very quickly. There’s a premium for that because the market there’s a demand for it. These, not so much. But it’s not to say you can’t get a great performing feeling iron with an underrated brand. It just means that if you don’t like it, you might have to wait a while to get rid of it. If not, you’re going to have to keep lowering the price. Number three, shafts. And if you’re buying secondhand and very new to the game, don’t overthink it. However, if you’re fast, by all means, get a stiff flex. Do you know what I mean? And the one way to distinguish all these shafts apart because it can be so confusing is that just what do you want? Do you want lower launch or do you want high launch? Forget spin. There’s no such thing as a high high launching low spinning shaft. That’s not how the game works. What there is is high kick points. So, a Project X is one of the highest kickpoint shafts in our game, meaning that it wants to bend up here, not down here. And if you balloon the ball high, you hit it high. And you want something that feels very firm in your hands. Again, the higher the kick point, the firm this is going to feel. It’s going to feel like a steel rod. This is going to launch ball low. Now, if you can’t get the ball up in the air, that shaft’s probably not going to be for you. You might want to then go to something like an AMT red, for example. That would be a higher launching shaft. And typically, you know, because this would be in, let’s say, a high launching head. Like, if you type in T400 online, I guarantee you, you’re going to see a lot of AMTs in it. There’s not going to be any project 6.0’s in it cuz there’s it’s pointless. They cancel each other out. Just type in the shaft. What’s the kick point? If it’s down here, it wants to launch the ball higher. If it’s up here, it wants to launch it lower. That obviously also lower or heightens the spin. That’s essentially it. Number four is being clever on condition and really asking some questions about someone’s clubs because condition is a big value marker. Like some of these drivers I have here could be £300 but with a Sky Mark could be £200. Condition matters when it comes to irons. Grooves is obviously the important one but more importantly the grips. Like a grip nowadays cost £10 or let’s say even £15 for the more expensive ones. So just make sure the grips are relatively good. Otherwise, you might be spending £150 getting them all replaced or let’s say £100. Conditions important. Make sure you check it. Don’t just jump in. And if the price is too good to be true, that might be a reason why. But if not, then again, you might be getting some value back and potentially making money when you go to sell it in the future. Lastly, and this is obviously down to what else is in your bag, but if you’re going for, let’s say, big heads like these, cavity back heads that are low lofted, high launching, you’re probably not going to need a four iron. At most, a five iron, sometimes just a six iron. And my last one’s all about gapping. Just knowing what you need underneath your irons as well as the top end. I have sold more sets this year through five or let’s say six to gap wedge. I think six to gap wedge has been really popular. Whereas 10 years ago that would have been very different. It would have been five to pitching wedge. But because everything’s so delofted now, a six to gap wedge is kind of your five to pitching wedge. Otherwise, the player might need another four wedges at the bottom end of the bag. And some pitching wedges nowadays are like 43°. And if you have a 54 degree wedge as your next wedge, your pitching wedge goes 30 yards, but your 54 degree can’t get over 90. That’s why. Guys, I hope you found this video interesting. A bit more behind the scenes. Any questions, ssgolfacademy.com. Catch you guys there.