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Today we test the new version of one of the very best Game Improvement irons available, the Titleist T350.
How much better is the brand new T350 when we compare it to the old T350?
Today we find out with both Ross and Tom testing the new 2025 Titleist T350 against the older T350 at 2 differfent swing speeds to see how the perform against each other!
So the big question, if you have the old T350’s should you upgrade to the new T350’s? Let’s find out…
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Timecodes
00:00 – Intro
00:36 – Old T350 Hitting (Tom – 85 Swing Speed)
03:40 – Old T350 Average Numbers (85 Swing Speed)
04:22 – Top Line & Looks Comparison
05:04 – New T350 Hitting (Tom – 85 Swing Speed)
11:02 – Average Numbers Comparison (85 Swing Speed)
15:11 – Old T350 Hitting (Ross – 70 Swing Speed)
17:45 – Old T350 Average Numbers (70 Swing Speed)
17:59 – New T350 Hitting (Ross – 70 Swing Speed)
21:16 – Average Numbers Comparison (70 Swing Speed)
Right, another new verse old today. We got the new T350 versus the old T350. We’ve literally just launched the old T200 verse new T250. So, if you haven’t watched that, we’ll link that in the description below. Go and have a watch at that. But, as always, indepth data dive today. New verse old. We got Tom obviously hitting at his normal swing speed, kind of mid to high 80s. I jump in and do some slow swing speed testing as well. So, it’s always giving you guys two different takes, two different data sets, two different swing speeds, taking you through all of the data and giving you our honest opinion. Is the new T350 any better than the old old T350? We’ll put the specs up on the screen now for you. Tommy boy doing the hitting first of all. So, let’s get a few shots with the old model for a baseline and um see what it does. Sounded good. It’s my typical sort of up in the air shot though, but it’s done done pretty good. Good strike, mate. Like that mid mid five spin. In front of you were just saying because we obviously did the T old T200 versus new T250. So I haven’t seen that. We’ll link that in the description below with Thomas here and we’re saying they were quite spinny for you. There’s actually that there at mid5s outside. That’s going to be probably six low sixes. It’s actually a much better spin window. I’ve got the fades today. Don’t mind it, man. Again, you That’s good. Yeah. Gonna be amazing to see the spin rate I produce with this iron in a minute because I guarantee it ain’t going to be 6-1. How’d that one feel? Yeah, that was okay. Wasn’t my cleanest strike. I’d agree. It kind of got away with it. I would say a little bit high maybe. I mean, yeah. I mean, a couple mil high. Wasn’t bad. You see how much again the spin changes just from that we go from there. It was like 6,100 to there. What’s that? 51. That’s a thousand revs of spin difference in like 67 mil of strike height. Again, good efficiency. 90. I mean, even these for you, again, we always say obviously get fitted, but you still get plenty of height with these. Yeah. Good ones are still 107, 100, 105% angle, 49, 48, 49. Like, you’re still getting loads of height and loads of stopping power. Again, outside it’s going to spin more. So, you’re going to get even more. That was a little thin. It’s a great shot. Might go in. It’s done. All right. Might actually go in. And again, even for a thin strike, you got 99 peak height, 48% angle, good ball flight down the line. Like Yeah. Really good result. Yeah, cuz that was pretty thin. Yeah. And um that’s like that’s probably like a few% away from an optimal shot, I would say. That’s right. The first one carried 162 and that was pretty good. the best one we’ve had so far. And I know that still looks low on the screen, but 10 mil low is not too bad. It’s all like 7, 8 mil low is about perfect for where we have the dots on face, which is the most important thing. Um, but yeah, 162 carry to 159 carry. No different really. That sounded nice. Yeah, that was a good swing. Again, might go in. Whoa. Had a few near hold outs today, mate. Don’t be leaving all the good ones in I will be. There’s been plenty of bad ones. If there were good shots in this video, comment, give him some I’m only allowed to leave I’m only allowed to leave four or five in for the time of the video. I mean, we have it 23 shots there and you’ve probably only seen a few. I mean, left to right dispersion pretty pretty solid to be fair to you, mate. I mean, you’ve been hitting him very straight. Just the odd mistrike. Just base and path has been all right. I just I’ve been striking everything like really low, haven’t I? And then when I’ve tried not to, I’ve chunked it. But finding finding that groove there has been a bit tricky today. Yeah, that’s quite a few shots here. Average numbers with the old T350. 112 ball speed, 20 and a half launch. Best part, 6,000 backspin, 157 carry. Pretty good left to right dispersion while you’ve been hitting it very straight in all honesty. So that that’s a fair representative average data set, I would say. Also, myself and Tom have just been through a mega in-depth custom fitting process at the incredible TPI, Titless Performance Institute at Wo. So, if you’re interested to see what myself and Tom got fitted into at the brand new Titus irons, that is going to be linked in the description below. So, let’s jump into the new 350, see how it looks, sound, feels, and performs. Any changes on that top line, new verse old? Yeah, I would say the um the T350 new definitely looks a bit slimmer on the top line. Um it almost looks a little bit more rounded, whereas I would say the previous generation looks a bit blockier and a bit squarer. to my eye. Um I think the finish as well makes it look a little bit smaller. Definitely an upgrade. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. And obviously from the back they’ve done the same thing as the 250 which is the the massive overhaul lookswise. The singular construction now which just it looks really clean. I love the finish as well. Yeah, it’s just super classy and um yeah, it definitely looks better. Um I think in the bag it would look better. Shelf would be a little better. Yeah, it’s just it’s a it’s just a Yeah, it’s a really good improvement. Yeah, that did sound good. Actually, not even joking. I’ve absolutely ripped that. This going to be another one where the new model goes left than the old model because that’s exactly what happened in the last video. Um, I think that was an overall better swing. I did close the face a little bit, but strike was so much cleaner there. I mean, it was clean. It was still a little low, but you did close the face, hence why we pulled it a little bit and spin comes down a touch. But again, we didn’t have many closed faces with the old model in fairness. So obviously if we close the face, it’s going to reduce loft slightly. So we can see there 25 degrees of dynamic loft, which is probably lower than anything you delivered with the old model. That’s very highly linked to the fact the face was closed. And therefore, the efficiency comes up, ball speed comes up, carry goes up. Again, we’ll show you that one, but it’s probably not an overall fair comparison because we didn’t hit any like that with the old model. Good. Sounded good. Carbon copy of that last one. I think it’s it sounds louder. I think it sounds louder, but I do think it sounds softer and and sort of it’s a very different sound. It’s not as high pitched, not clicky. Yeah. Um Yeah. So, I think you’re right. It is a little louder, but I think it’s a very different sound. Yes, I’d agree. Yeah, it’s different. Oh, that sounded nice. Yeah, that was a really good swing. That sounds hit. Wow. I mean, this this where this is where it gets a bit, you know, I mean, that feels nicer, but I’ve hit it better. Yeah. I mean, so, you know, it’s like, is it really a nicer feel or have I just made a few better swings, but it feels nicer? I mean, we got to look at I don’t know if it’s the lighting or like like we just said a minute ago that that’s registering very low on quad, but that No, that was that was buttoned. Yeah, that was absolutely buttoned. Yeah, that was really good. Yeah, that was I think it could be the light. I mean, it’s gonna on the camera it’s going to look very bright because of the way we’ve done it, but it’s so dark in here. I’m almost struggling to see the ball where Tom’s feet is. So, it could be something to do with that maybe. But that was a really good stride and 17 ball speed. So, that’s I mean, the first one you hit with this was 117 ball speed, but you did turn it over a little bit. That was 117 ball speed. The best that we had with the old model was the very first one that you hit was 114.4. four. Yep. And okay, that did sound hit that one to be fair. So maybe you hit it slightly better than any we hit with the old model potentially. Y um trying to be fair, but 52 spin on on a good strike. I mean on the better strikes with the other model we had 55 spin, 61 spin, 61 spin, 64 spin. Like and there I’m looking at the better ball speed ones because they’re generally the slightly better strikes. Y 59 spin. So yeah, again the pattern seems to continue that potentially getting a touch more ball speed is what you saw with the the T250 versus Yeah, I did. And the new T250 being lower spin than the old T200 and that pattern seems to be very similar into this headto-head. It does. Yeah, absolutely. And almost the feel difference as well because I would say it was a slightly higher pitch feel with the old T200 versus T250 and it feels very similar. This does feel more solid when you hit it. It doesn’t feel as clicky. Just notably louder. Like I wouldn’t even say it’s a good or a bad thing. It’s going to be subjective. And again, remember we are inside. But when you hit that, it was like like it really like sounded like you know I don’t want to big you up too much here because you’re going to get big head. But almost sound like a gun went off. But like to me that’s quite a confidence inspiring sound. Yeah. You know if if I want to play some irons um you know and I’m not the fastest swinger, not the best ball striker. When I do hit one, I want it to sound like a gun’s gone off, you know? I want it to sound cracky and hit. Uh, makes me feel good. Yeah. When you tank a driver, when it’s like a Yeah. a drrome of trees around you and everyone looks around and they go, “That’s Tom. That must be 120 ball speed.” That kind of been him. Yeah. And then then it hits the tree, comes back to the tea box. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I can have another go then. That if anything was a little bit thin. Yeah, it sounded a groove low. Fantastic shot though. That’s very comparable, I think, to some of the shots I hit with P350 original as well. I think they were a bit thin and a bit that that felt a little bit spinny. Well, it’s funny you just said those are the ones that spin at 61 cuz that is exactly the shot there. This is with the old T350, 18 mil low in the head, 61 backspin, and a very neutral delivery from you there as well to be fair with that old T350. And that carried 154. That one we just literally hit there. 19 mil low. So very very similar strike. 5500 backspin. Okay. The base was fractionally more closed in fairness. So that would have a slight impact. Not dramatic but slight. Still finished two yards offline. That carried 159. Yeah, that is just seeming lower spin. But again for you like it’s certainly getting there. It’s reaching the green. It’s getting pin high even on sort of like miss hits. Even the fact of it is a little bit lower spin. I mean, even that one that was a bit thin, still peaked at 102 and had a descent of 48. Like, it’s still flying high. It’s still landing soft. So, for you, again, it’s for Tom. You’re still getting plenty of height. It’s not really hurting you. Nice. Yeah. I just honestly can’t believe how different it sounds. Mental. It’s a great shot. Yeah, felt pretty good. That little fadey one there that sounded pretty good. Again, you’d expect to have a reasonable amount of spin on it. And again, it’s 51. That’s remarkable, mate. I mean, I I just can’t give you any more compliments, unfortunately, in this video, but that’s been 5124, 5143, 5134 in the last three shots. The spin rates carried 162, 165, 163. That is like over consistent, right? Average numbers. Quick touch on club data. You swang, if anything, you you swang the new model fractionally slower, but you’re talking 6 of a mile an hour. So really not that much in it at all. From a delivery perspective, the angle of attack was within 04 of a degree. The path was within8 of a degree. The average face angle was within 0.5 of a degree. The lie angle was in 6 of a degree. One interesting thing was the dynamic loft was about a degree lower. We know that static loft they are the same but you delivered one degree less with the new model which you mentioned we did get a couple more left face slightly closed as it does show on that average face angle. So that could obviously lead to slightly less dynamic loft but really everything from a delivery perspective within one degree which is about all we can ask of a tester really and average strike pretty close as well. So we can see the efficiency there with the new T350 being higher. So therefore, if we flick over to the club data, we can see the ball speed with the new T350 being higher, 1 mile an hour more. 112.5 with the old model, 113.5 with the new model. Now the launch and spin, again, pretty much what we were seeing consistently slightly higher launch from the new T350. Again, less than a degree, but a little bit higher launch and definitely lower spin. I mean average was it 700ish revs lower which is a remarkable difference in all honesty. Now I will throw the caveat in there. I think you were hitting you hit a few more thin shots with the old model which is going to help increase spin. So the best to best shots we maybe saw kind of like 4 500 revs which is probably more where I think it is. I don’t think it’s seven I think four 500 but it’s definitely lower spin. And then that equated to, funny enough, almost identical to the new verse old T200 versus T250. We did about half a club. So 157 carry with the old model, 162 carry with the new model. Now, a little bit of that, I think you were hitting the new one a little bit better. Yep. In my opinion, I was. Y definitely. But it definitely is a little bit lower spin, which will get a little bit more distance. And it did seem to have a tiny bit more pop in it. like we couldn’t match ball speed for ball speed new versus oh we were getting a little bit more ball speed out of that as that shows and we were getting lower spin as that shows so half a club more and I do think it is slightly longer as a club whether or not that’s good or bad for you it’s going to be completely subjective as to what you need and again similar pattern to the old one you hit the new model a little bit more left as you can see on that dispersion chart there top right we had a couple more longer lefts in there the old model arguably was straighter yep yeah it was yeah on average yeah The left to right was very very tight. Is that a bit more you? Is it a bit more club? Don’t know. But you were you getting a couple of longer left shots with the new model. But I would say that as a snapshot performance overall, new versus old. I think that’s pretty fair. Yeah, I think it’s really fair and it’s kind of what I felt as well. A little bit more pop from the new uh T350 model. Um definitely, you know, a little bit less spin so I could see that, you know, ball carrying an extra few yards. And it’s kind of exactly what I was feeling while hitting them as well. Yeah. in a bit. I mean, if we look at the peak heights, so we averaged 98 feet with the old model. We averaged 102 with the new model. Descent angle 47.7 with the old model, 47.8 with the new model. So, the ball flights realistically the same. I mean, the the highest we had with the new model was 111. The highest we had with the old model was 107. So, best to best. the actual peak height and descent angles very very similar in all honesty. Even though the spin was slightly lower cuz we were getting that little bit more launch, the peak was still the same, the descent was still the same. So, you’re still going to get very similar stopping power from the new model regardless of the spin being slightly lower. Yeah, I I definitely agree with that. And um yeah, for somebody with my delivery, I think, you know, both of them work pretty well, but if I was picking one to go in my bag, definitely be the new one. Yeah, new looks better. looks better, feels a bit better, and performs just that little bit better for me. Yeah, I wouldn’t disagree. I think that would be not a bad club view to be honest. Slow swing speed. Slow swing speed. Let’s do it. So, you’ve got the uh original T350. Yep. Again, keeping it same specs as you. Couple flat AMT red regular. It’s low 70 mph. Let’s get some data. Yeah, nice ball. Yeah, that was more middled 71 swing speed. Yeah, it’s kind of in and around that mid130s very consistently, isn’t it? Yeah, that front to back dispersion for for an iron of this style is actually really quite good when you strike it, isn’t it? I mean, yeah. 135 again, 138 efficiency. So, getting a lot out of that club head speed. Yeah. 19 and a half launch, 47 spin. Yeah. Like, it’s kind of about where it is, isn’t it? It’s kind of almost eerily reminding me a lot of the T250 numbers you did a couple of days ago. It’s like so similar. It is. That sounded really nice. Yeah, that was that was again really well hit. Yeah, strike sounded lovely there. And it’s really it is sort of carrying that number, isn’t it? Yeah, it’s maybe a yard or two more. Hit it maybe fractionally more middle. You know, efficiency remains really high. So, a great strike. Yeah, probably a hair towy if anything, but we’re sort of splitting his. Yeah. Um launching 19 and a half spinning at 44 and a half. It’s it’s kind of 20 launch four and a half, isn’t it? Really kind of where it is. Yeah. on a good strike. You’ve had the odd one which you’ve turned over slightly towy that’s dropped to kind of 4-1, you know, the odd thin one that’s spun up a little bit more, but actually yeah, it’s very very consistent and we’ve been hitting a lot of greens at that kind of pin high number. So, it’s interesting we touched on the dynamic loft earlier, right? Because we were talking about that strong loft versus kind of traditional loft and why someone would play strong loft and vice versa. We were saying effectively all we’re trying to do is get the loft at impact which there 25 in a good spot and say at your speed you’re about 27 28 at this speed obviously I’m now taking off a little bit more loft which is my natural delivery but 25 at this swing speed which is what 10 plus mph 15 mph slower than you is too low. Yeah it is too little. So we again for this player we’d be going well this this loft is too strong because dynamically we’re delivering too little which is leading to a ball flight that’s flying too low. Yeah. So that that one even though it was a good strike flew 66 peak uh height and 40 and a half%. So the stopping power is compromised with your delivery with that static loft at this speed. Yeah. So we’ve talked about it on other videos like I get away with it with my delivery being a slightly stronger loft. But, you know, for somebody who’s going to swing around this speed and deliver very similar to you, like this, we wouldn’t be fitting someone into this iron. No, definitely. You know, we’d be definitely reaching for a bit more loft, wouldn’t we? So, like you just said there, Ross, it’s 19 and a half launch, 4 and a half spin, average carry around 136. So, you know, on a good strike, that’s kind of this kind of where it is, isn’t it? So, that’s a very fair average representation of how that iron performs, I would say. Yeah. Perfect. Okay. Should we uh take a look at the new the new T350? Yeah. Again, it just definitely looks so much better, isn’t it? The two the T250 and the T350 this year. Obviously, as we spoke about, it’s the biggest change, isn’t it? Looks just so much cleaner from the back and the finish. I mean, I didn’t love the chrome. It was very chrome. The old T200 and the old T350. Like very chy, very shiny. Got more of that satin finish to it. And it does look a little bit more compact as well. So, yeah, from the looks upgrade, much much better. That was an anti- left. It does. It’s remarkably louder. It is louder. I mean, that was a massive high right and now only span at 42. Yeah, I know. And the strike was good. Yeah. Face a little open. Yeah. Um with your inside par, so that creates a little bit of that kind of like high push. Yeah. Launching a bit higher at 22. Um spin. Yeah. Just stays down, doesn’t it? I mean, we do these different slow swing speed tests because it’s good for people to see, right? But the reality is the patterns are always going to remain the same at any at any speed. Yeah. Like if this launches slightly higher and spins slightly lower for you, it’s going to do the same for me at this swing speed. is going to do the same. If I swing a 95, it’s going to do the same. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It’s a good strike. Just turned a little bit. Yeah, that sounded a bit better. Just a little bit turned over. Yeah, just jumps in and it’s like it’s got a little bit extra in it. Even though you closed the face on that one, sort of launch did come down a bit. That spin 4-1. That’s kind of where we saw um the original, wasn’t it? When you kind of turned it over a little bit, kind of dropped down to that 4-1. So, very similar performance. And even that carry like when I pushed it carried 138 I pulled it carried 138. Like it’s pretty consistent, isn’t it? It is. Yeah. Yeah. Actually felt like a really good swing. I So I didn’t feel this in the uh in the other test, but this definitely seems easy to turn over. Bit more left side bias. Yeah, it looks it as well from the from the shots you’re hitting. It didn’t feel like a bad swing, but no, just that if anything, it is it’s it is just that face angle. Just easier to almost like it feels like it wants to turn a bit. Feel like it wants to close. Yeah, I definitely felt that in mine. Yeah, that sounded good. That was better. Yeah, that was nice. Yeah, that’s a lovely golf swing. Again, 71 swing speed, 139 efficiency again. Very, very efficient. Pitch perfectly on the number, isn’t it? Yeah, it’s a good swing. 20 and a half launch, just under 43 spin, great delivery. Yeah, 139 efficiency, which is like super good. It’s it’s just going to be a similar thing. It’s got a couple of extra yards in it. I reckon it’s launching a fraction more spin and a fraction less. Like I think that’s basically what it’s doing. Yeah, absolutely. And again, that peak height at 70, the descent angle at 41 and a half is kind of where it’s been on the good strikes the whole time, isn’t it? There we go. That’s a nice swing. Yeah, 71.5. So, pretty good speed as well. And it’s kind of where we’ve been seeing it. High 130s, 138, 139 carry. It’s been a pretty solid shot, hasn’t it? Yeah. So when you’ve when you’ve hit it out the button, you know, good strike kind of launches around that kind of 19 and a half to 20. Yeah. Spins around that kind of low fours. 41 in it. Carries 140ish 139 on that occasion. Efficiency is always very high when you’re swinging at slow speeds, especially with your delivery. Um yeah, it’s it’s kind of where it is, isn’t it? So yeah, if we take a look at the averages there, um strike was pretty comparable. Maybe a little bit more towy with the old. Um, but again, the rest of the delivery was pretty much bang on. Angle of attack pretty much the same, path the same. Face angle is the interesting one because you were about a degree more closed with the new and we kind of saw almost that with me. Um, so that’s quite consistent which is interesting. Uh, dynamic loft obviously then just comes down a degree as well. Again, probably because of that face angle. Um, and speed really good efficiency. slightly more efficiency out of the new, but again that’s probably coming down a little to that little bit to that face angle. Well, it’s same as what is this? That’s basically exactly what we saw what you just did. Slightly more closed, so therefore the loft was one degree lower dynamically at impact and we get a little bit more efficiency. Exactly the same as what happened with you. Really interesting, isn’t it? And then yeah, so ball speed a hair more out of the new, but again probably the face angle launch very similar. Um yeah, carry within a yard. So the main difference we’re seeing is that spin, isn’t it? again few hundred revs. So the peak height there on the old T350 is 66 uh versus 65 on the new T350 and then the descent angle is 40.5 versus 39.6. So there is a slight variance there and that probably is coming from that slightly lower spin. So slightly less rising flight, slightly shallower descent. So yeah, there is that slight difference you’d have to consider. Yeah. And again at this speed you would go less spin is not good. Yes, exactly that. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It’s not good. So if performance-wise, you’d almost be saying again for me at my speed and my delivery. Again, if someone had this swing speed and was a super duper uber scuba scuba scooper, scooper, yeah, they added loft. Yeah. Then it could be obviously completely different, right? So again, we always say speed. It’s not irrelevant, but it’s there’s a lot of other variables we need to take into account. So if you added loft potentially and you wanted to get spin down, maybe the new model would be slightly better. But I would argue for a lot of people at slower swing speed, the vast majority want a bit more spin. So the old model potentially could be slightly better. Like depends what you need. There we go. Another new verse old in the books. Let us know what you thought of this video. Let us know which one of these you would be picking. More to come. We’re going to do the new verse old T100, T150, all that to come. If you want any specific head-to-heads, let us know in the comments below. We’re always open to ideas. If you like the video, make sure to like and subscribe, please. We’re trying to get to 50,000 subscribers and we need your help to do so. So, as always, thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned. I’ll see you in the next one.
14 Comments
Thanks for showing the swing speed in the 70’s. I currently have a 75 swing speed with a 7iron and using the T400. I’m looking at the old T350 or the T200. Which would you recommend? Thanks
Great video – they all are. Would it make sense to make this iron 2 degrees weak , to add maybe a bit more spin? Thx
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!
Would love some advice on what types of irons to look at as a 19 handicapper with an 86mph 7 iron swing speed. I feel like I don't need distance help but I need a lot of forgiveness for mishits still!
I wonder if the plastic vs metal back is responsible for the sound difference?
Thanks so much for this Ross.
Its great you are testing the game improvement irons
at 70mph & 85mph.
These comparisons are invaluable
Can you test a this new T350 against a Ping G440 and a Cobra DS Adapt Max
at these speeds please?
😁
Great video as usual. Hit the new T350 in a fitting recently and was also surprised by the loud sound, but they go high and far and great on mishits. What ball are you using in this test for reference? A higher spin ball should add a couple hundred RPMs 😉
Thanks again for the informative video.
Could you help me to understand how to classify the illustration in terms of the impact area? Even the ones you categorise as rather "high" look relatively "low" and the ones you call "low" look almost topped.
Has Tom’s game improved since working there? He seems more consistent 🤷🏼♂️
The new clubs are sooo much more appealing
Great job guys 👏🏻
Can’t give any more compliments😂….is there a cap on YouTube 🧐🤣
Really looking forward to the T250 Launch Spec video. I’m looking to upgrade my irons but want to see what the Launch Specs look like at a slower speed. I currently swing at 80mph and a bit apprehensive about being fit as I feel I’ll just have game improvements pushed on to me.
Do Avoda single length vs p770 or t100-150! Would be great to see pure performance comparison