One of the biggest myths in golf just got obliterated. If you’ve ever been told you need to “create space” in the downswing… this video is about to flip your golf brain upside down.

In this breakdown, Mike Granato & Shuan Webb dig deep into the trail arm’s true role during the downswing, expose the illusions caused by camera angles, and show you exactly what pros do differently. This is the kind of insight that lights up every golf school they visit — and will finally help you clean up your impact position without the confusion.

If you’re tired of wipey, weak shots and feel like you’re fighting your swing, it’s time to reprogram what you think you know. This video lays out the real sequence of motion that leads to effortless, powerful, and consistent ball striking.

Watch until the end — we’ll not only explain it in simple terms but also show you drills to implement it immediately.

Golf Swing Concepts they break down:
– Why “space creation” is an illusion
– What REALLY causes shallowing
– How pros keep their trail arm connected
– The midline myth of hand position at impact
– Why camera angles lie to your eyes

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Video Chapters:
0:00 – The Space Creation Myth
0:39 – Trail Arm’s Real Role
1:35 – Why Camera Angles Lie
3:17 – Hands Are NOT Where You Think
5:02 – Trail Arm Connection Drill
6:32 – Proper Release Explained
8:10 – Why Most Golfers Struggle with Impact
9:56 – Static vs Dynamic Swing Differences
11:40 – Final Thoughts & Free Drill Link

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One of the biggest myths in the golf is that you have to create space. That’s not a bad swing. Well, yeah, it is. Wow. The swing gets so much more easy to reproduce and understand. Once you realize that every golf school, there’s at least one, sometimes all four golfers are trying to do this motion. It’s a light bulb. It’s like, “Oh, that’s way easier than what I’m trying to do.” One of the most common questions we get, especially after our pros versus ams video about shallowing, and we we stopped that video intentionally just to show you the shallowing movement, which is basically around lead arm parallel. This is what that trail arm needs to do from there to and through impact. And this creates a lot of confusion just because of how we see that thirderson view of the swing from this camera. It certainly looks like the hands are on the front leg with shaffling. That’s not what happens. We’re going to show you now exactly what does happen. So, you’ve seen us probably talk about this in recent videos about how the hands are on the trail side of the body. So, you want to kind of demonstrate it that again, Sean. I like how you go to impact and then square the hips back up. If I got into like a tour looking impact, so hips are going to be 45 degrees open, which by the way is just basically the belt buckle over the big toe. That’s it. We came up with that a while ago. Just the easy way to think about it. All right. Now, I’m going to do that first. Now, I’m going to put my arms over top of my body. Right. Shoulder line fairly square to slightly open. Obviously, the rib cage is open, but I’m side bend. So, my shoulder line is still pretty square. Right? And now, I have my arms where they need to be. A little bit of shaft. I’m going to take my Just resquare your hips. Don’t move anything with your upper body. And just resqu your hips. From there’s impact. So, his hands at impact. We’ll have you go back to that again from a face on camera have shaft or in front of the ball, right? And depending on the body dimensions, they’re going to be look like they’re on the front leg. Okay. Now, if you just square up to the camera, you can see that’s an illusion. He did not move his hands across his body to put him on his front leg. He just turned his body to the side to show the camera. Yeah. Look, it’s kind of crazy to think about. Address impact. Yes. The hands are farther back on your body at impact than they are at address. At address, they’re usually on the front leg. Yeah. Address impact. More more unccocked. Yep. Right. Cuz the handle’s higher at impact. Still on the ground because I’m touching the ground. Maybe off a little cuz I’m pivoted back, but impact basically right there, which is mind-blowing because if you cut a line right up the middle of my body, there you go. The arms are on the trail side. Okay, we’re going to do this facing the camera. So, there’s still people kind of scratching their head going, “How is that possible?” All right, I’m going to put you at a 45° angle to that camera. So, you line up with your toes on this shaft and do the exact same thing you did there. So, this this face on camera is going to be able to see what we’re talking about. Yeah. You’re doing that to show that the turning motion hides it. Yeah. Cuz the camera now is going to be instead of being squared up to the hips at address, it’s going to be squared up to his hips at impact. So there’s 45. Now I’m facing this camera straight out of my belt line. Right. And then if I drop my arms back, now you get a better view. So the hands and you can see images and we’ll put some on the screen of pros at impact with this same look. The hands are on the trail side of the body. We got that covered. So that’s the first thing you got to understand. We’re not trying to wipe the hands across the body to produce shaftling. That’s not how any good player you’ve ever seen, certainly on TV, do that. Not a fan of saying wipe in a golf. It’s not a good It’s not a good one. Good term. Okay. It’s like shame. So how do we get then from this where that pros versus video ended to that spot and then be on that spot. So where the pros versus video right here basically. that basically right around left arm parallel. Hips are square. Trail elbow is basically reconnected to the side. Tricep reconnect to the side. So let’s let’s stick on that. Yeah. Do show that again. I’ll get out on the tricep. So your bicep or upper arm is basically on the same angle as your body line. It is not in front or the elbow is not working towards the navl. Well, it’s interesting. There’s a place for it where the club will pitch about right. I never thought about it like that. But if I go too far back, it tends to pitch too vertical. Right? If I go to the top and pitch my arm this way, if I drive too much, so there’s a pretty there’s a there’s a spot right there that makes this fairly simple just to get this club to shadow the right amount. And if you want to see that, the easiest way to see that is just stand up. So this would be address and my arm is about a 45 degree angle to my spine at the point Sean showed. The arm’s right there. So it’s just in line. Now I’m bent over. That’s it. So it looks like that. If I get my elbow in front, it’s actually lifted in the down swing for me to get in this position. It puts the hands out too much over the ball. No good player does that. Okay. So, we’re coming down. We’re reconnected to the rib cage. The elbow, if we put a a gears marker on the outside of the elbow and outside of the hip, the outside of the elbow is always behind the hip coming into impact. Okay. Now, what? So, now you’re going to keep So, let’s see. The best way to show this would be Yeah. this down the line view. So, I’m going to get to square and then stop the body and show what the arm would do. Okay, perfect. Okay, so at the top, I’ve come halfway down. Now, if I had a a machine where I could just stop my body or software and then show what the arm would do from here, it’s going to unccock and lower some more. I’m going to unfold my elbow some. And then it’s going to actually go that way. This is the tricky part of the release. So now I’m going to put that dot do go back to the starting point there. My dot right maybe last can put a dot right there on your elbow. Watch. It’s going to go out closer to the ball and over kind of like a 45 I would say right there. Now cool part is if I continue my pivot around that’s what gets in the classic kind of shake hands with a target release position or even more depending on how much rotation you have. It’s not about taking the hand path left by using this wipe motion. The arms, this adduction motion across the chest. That happens later. But if you want to get a pure release, the arm has to feel this way. And you can see if I just add the pivot, it puts you in a worldass release position. Yeah. So, we’ll do that squared up to the camera now. So, it’s right here is kind of the delivery phase of my hips aren’t open. And what you’re talking about is the hands work this way. They work in front this way, not in front towards the target. They don’t pass the midline. They go right to the midline. And then again, you’re going to see them start to pass the midline as the hands and club start to go over the head. But impact delivery is here. There. Now watch. You can’t see the outside of my elbow, but I finger. So my finger starts there. Now go to there. It always goes out more. Uh I think the average is from shaft parallel to shaft parallel. I think the average is 8 in out and around towards the golf ball. Myth. One of the biggest myths in the golf is that you have to create space. You do not create space because the arm stays beside the body. I’m just turning my body as that happens. The swing is we say this all the time. It is an illusion. It’s a well because that camera does not move. Yeah. The turning motion skews everything that’s happening. Yes. Like if I go like this, you’d be like, “That’s not a back swing.” Well, yeah, it is. What is the back swing? Cuz if I do this and turn, right? It It’s mindbending at first, but wow, the swing gets so much more easy to reproduce and understand. Once you realize that when you break these movements out, you can train them a little bit more individually. Like you could stand here and say, “Oh, I got to do that with my arm.” You could just keep your body square almost like like a circular motion. I know Haney Hank Haney had this drill where he would get guys kind of making circles. He would get him making circles on the right side like this and then kind of swing to fix slices. That’s what he was doing. He was training in that motion where the arm goes that way. This is because so many of us struggle with impact, right? You’re watching this video. You probably struggle with impact. Think about how easy this motion is. Top spin forehand compared to this motion. Low slice over the net. This is why every golf school there’s at least one, sometimes all four golfers are trying to do this motion. That’s the wipe because it looks like that’s what happens from a static camera angle. But you know, with AMG 3D, we can put the gears, every millimeter, every joint moves. So, we can put that in AMG3D and turn off any segment. And when you can turn off the turn, like you said, and you see, okay, this is how the arm moves with no turn, it’s a light bulb. It’s like, oh, that’s way easier than what I’m trying to do. Yeah. If you just This is kind of interesting. If you just thought, that you knew where the club needed to get right here. Yep. Yeah. So, I’ll I’ll hold the club here. Like, so I know I got to get there. What the average golfer would do is try to put their hands there like that because they, oh, I got there, but they don’t realize that the hands kind of stay over here and go like this and then my turn is what gets them there. So, let’s do that from this angle. Now, by the way, I’ve never thought about like this. Let’s do that from this angle. You’re making my brain light up a little dimmer. So, don’t allow your hands to cross your midline and do this. Okay. So, so come back to square. Yep. So, there’s my square. Yep. So, where would your hands be in the down swing? You’d be on your trail side. They are. Don’t let them cross the midline and touch the grip. There you go. They’re still there. That That’s the feeling to get. It goes back to the fishing for positions, right? If you’re just trying to stick the club there, oh, I’m putting my club in the release, but you didn’t realize that the only reason it goes there is cuz your arms are going like this. You’re going to be lost. That’s why a lot of people play golf their whole life and never get any better. There’s there’s golfers at golf courses that never ever ever get better just because of lack of good information. I played nine holes yesterday after work. Oh, you snuck some golf in. Yeah, I’m trying to trying to get it right. And u I got paired with two gentlemen, great guys, senior golfers, right? Both retired. And one guy, bless could not stop making the ball go at a 45 degree angle to the right. He was a new golfer just learning. His buddy was trying to help him. He had the same problem. But no one wanted to shank. It was just a massively open face because he got here and was trying to make it go straight as best he could. I showed him exactly the haney deal. Yeah. Just make the circle. And started making that circle. He goes, “There’s no way that’s right. Just try it.” Well, sir, I do. The first couple times, right, the face was like this wide open and then like, “No, you got to let that go. You got to let that go.” And then he started to actually make the ball turn over and was flabbergasted that that’s what it took. It’s just our perception from seeing swings from these, you know, angles that aren’t what the body’s doing and then try to backineer it, you’re going to wind up some really goofy ideas. For a long time, probably video and stop motion video is probably hurt golfers more than it’s helping because they’re able to stop positionally. All all of the bad swing concepts that I’m aware of come from video. Yeah. And the the 3D is like been the best thing for my whole life game in general because we can break out the movements. So that’s how you get from the shallow spot to impact and it’s just by keeping your arm on the trail side of your body moving to the midline, not across it. The cross happens way up in here. So if you want to know a drill on how to do this, go to the first pin comment down below. Click on that link. We’re going to show you another drill other than the awareness drill to how show you how to start to incorporate this proper trail arm movement in your down swing.

24 Comments

  1. Well. Here's the hard part. If I don't make a comment as most here, saying how great this advice is and how you nailed it, then I have to type a whole lot more to create, not a kudos comment, but a discussion. But knowing most won't read this, here goes. The truth is, in my opinion and after watching over 2,000 videos from over 150 youtube golf instructors, creating space can be a myth, or exactly what the feel is for certain types of swings. Mike Pit with Golf Pit uploaded a video called The Best Arm Dynamics In the Downswing || 3 TIPS showing his student how to flight wedges using the thought of driving the trail elbow down in front of the belly button. Adam Porzak will say to get the elbow as far tucked in and driven across the body as both he and Ben Hogan wore out their sweaters above their right hip. Christina Ricci with More Pars also will teach getting that trail elbow as far in front of the stomach or lead leg as possible. Why? They are teaching swings that rely on Hand Speed. Eric Cogorno golf also showed getting this elbow as far forward as possible, but in another video showed their are more than one releases. But it takes hand speed and less body rotation. Sure, they use core muscles and talk about using core muscles, but they keep their rear towards the target much longer and then during impact, the hips turn and follow. What I call the pop goes the weasel look. Then there are instructors like a Paul Wilson or Mike Malaska who don't promote that driving of the right elbow. It's like a divided camp. 50% do, and 50% don't. The truth is there are two main types of releases now. Sure, the PGA instructors were once taught to only teach the flipper method. Then came the thrower method. So now you got the Throw versus the Flip release. One relies on hand speed, the other on turning and chest/core speed. Just like you two do not believe you can feel like you are pinning your lead elbow over the body, yet take someone like a Gary Player, that's all he ever did, to take the left side of the course out of play. To do this, you just open the hips and keep your back to the target for a lot longer than the person who uses both hips and hands through the swing, or only hands and some core muscles. Was he wrong? I can pin my lead arm into my pec and feel my lead arm pinned into my chest hard. I then have to swing with very open hips and this is actually how I hit my driver, not so much the irons. There have been, besides Hogan, a lot of players who promoted that pushing the trail elbow as far over the stomach as possible. They tend to start with a lot of width and then crank that elbow down and in front as hard as possible. That's what caused the whole discussion of pulling down the handle and how you never pull down the handle, or you feel like your pulling down the handle. In a recent video, Shuan talked about pulling down the handle at a 45 degree angle. He hated that advice, yet for some, including me – need to "feel" that. Then you can take the Koreans, especially the ladies, they drop behind them and their feel is they are throwing the club behind and away from their body. They would never try to get the trail elbow that far in front of the body. Lily Golf (Lily) has video after video of the Secret Behind the Vertical Drop. While I know you can say you never measured golfer who do this, I see them on tv and on youtube all the time. It's not, to me, that anyone is necessarily right or wrong, but there are so many ways to hit a golf ball. So where you get your advice and which rabbit hole you go down starts with knowing which swing type you are. If you are a thrower, than say someone like a Chris Ryan may not be someone to watch. He says to stop using the body. True, he also says to never close the elbow down in front, but a lot of his advice does not apply to my swing. Then you get the guys who say you must do this, that, or the other. The big one is you must flare a foot, or both feet, or just this foot. I don't. I hit fine. But I don't walk like a duck, either. So flaring the feet would be uncomfortable. Look. I hit my 5 iron 200-205. I hit my 8 iron around 160. I hit my 2 utility iron 230. Those are carry yards. I am 5'5" and 160 lbs and 62 years old. I am not looking to hit more distance. I asked my fellow golfers which would you want, more distance or more consistency. The answers are 50/50 most days. Sometimes the more distance wins the day. But if I ask them which would you want, more distance, consistency, or knowing what you did wrong on the last swing, 95% want to know what they did wrong. Yes Shuan, you are correct, there are golfers at the range who will never improve. Sad. But there are golfers fairly happy with their swing, but some days it's there. Some days it's gone. Like their swing went on vacation without telling them. I know that feeling. But now, I can tell you exactly what I did wrong on each swing. Took time. Had to try very version of every swing out there and had to get to know each style, but now knowing that, I can pretty well tell what I am doing wrong by ball flight, or even just by hitting a ball 15 ft into a net. The point is, most golfers I know want to know how to fix an issue that pops up. They just never want to practice, and worse, never want to hit slower than all out. LOL. Most instructors want to start back at the beginning and go through setup, grip, stance, ball position, etc… when it could be something simply, that is now wrong with their swing. Overrun. Not enough turn on one side, or the other. They are just a tad off on something. They want to know that something, desperately. They want to get back to their trusted swing. Then from there you can teach them to do more, but not change them to do more. If that makes sense. They aren't going to play on Tour. They mainly play a few courses or even the same course, day after day after day. Some days are just better than others. Anyway, show us your way of thinking, but there are other ways, too. I know. I have changed my swing to refine my knowledge, and think I am on version 22.03.01 or something. I've only been playing golf for 3 years. And was down for the last 6 months with Distal Bicep Surgery. But it's been fun learning along the way. Watching all these videos and all these thoughts and who thinks their way is the best way. But make no mistake, there are several types of camps out there promoting a way to hit the golf ball. I now no longer really care about my backswing or if I am bowed, cupped, or flat wristed at the top. I use bowed for irons, cupped for wedges, and flat for woods and drivers. I can let my hands feel like they are floating through the impact zone and get different results depending if I want to hit low, med, or high, by playing with lofting and delofting. I can brake at the bottom but some instructors out there say you HAVE to brake at the bottom. That's just not true. I'll throw a video together one day and send y'all a PM to the link and let you see what I mean. If you want to then tear it a part and go through every swing feel free. After all, it's just an opinion. Keep teaching, loving it.

  2. Love the video guys, have you ever thought the right arm doesn’t drop as much as you think, rather the side bend creates less for the arm to lower from the top of the back swing

  3. You keep referring to pros impact position. Most of us can’t get into a pros impact position, I certainly can’t. That’s why instructors like Andrew Emory and Larry Rinker are appealing to so many.

  4. @Athletic Motion Golf I watch you guys all the time. IMO this video will produce many many lightbulb moments . It did for me. I used to be 3 HC. But due to injuries haven't golfed for 8 years. Just getting back into it. Went and tried it out today . Fortunate I have a Golf Course in walking distance. Thanks for making this video. A real eye opener . I was flushing everything. I was hitting good before but this info made a world of difference for me . Thank You

  5. Imagine the luck of being paired with Mike or Shuan for a round of golf! Another "lightbulb" moment about how the arms work for me. The circles,💡💡!!

  6. I tend to feel when i square my hips in the downswing my arms want to shoot out. Is the reconencting or lowering of the arms a purposefull movement?

  7. Gents, holy crap . This is starting to actually make sense. I could never figure out how I could get a golf books by famous instructors, learn all the moves etc. yet I would still mostly suck. It’s because all these moves were wrong at least wrong in the sense that the camera was distorting the true move. I don’t feel quite as bad anymore. Question though is how would you hit a fade from this type of swing and release? Also, as someone who has hit his share of quackers is this going to make that worse?

  8. You guys are so unique in how you interpret the swing based on accurate information. Keep up the great work.

  9. Really awesome video. I've been learning so much from you guys. Keep up the great work. Thank you so much!

  10. Great video! Once again, the concepts I was taught (and practiced for hours) were not only wrong but literally 180 degrees in the opposite direction of the truth. Is there an AMG for Pickleball so I don't start that sport with the wrong concepts?

  11. A lot of golf instruction in recent years has really been bugging me but I couldn’t articulate exactly what it was. This vid is part of the key to resolving this situation. There are several mind blowing concepts (facts) discussed in this vid that I need to digest over the next month by watching it over and over and by getting on the range and videoing myself from 3 angles lol. I was a scratch handicap at age 15 and a very successful junior competitor with a fantastic coach from age 10 thru 16. At age 17 I gave up golf completely for the next 25 years to pursue a scientific career and other sports – surfing, whitewater kayaking, alpine skiing, downhill mountain biking. When I took up golf again I was never able to come close to my youthful prowess. It’s been an irritation in my side to put it mildly.

  12. Shaun spotted a wipe in my swing in an iLesson a couple of years back but I have been stuck in this illusion. I am confident this video has made clear what I need to do to fix that wipe once and for all. Fantastic stuff.

  13. Thank you for creating such great content. I spent years and hit thousands of balls trying to get my hands ahead at impact. I’m getting a completely different ball flight now after watching your videos. 🎉

  14. I have often found that trying to keep the elbow in front of the body has been a destructive idea. It means on the downswing you can’t really get the club head behind your rotational axis without either externally rotating the arms (bad) or doing something funky with your wrists (bad)

  15. You guys are tech saavy. Can you rent on of those Matric semi-circle camera set up and have it follow the hips through the swing? 😄😄

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