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Welcome to our new series where we go to some of the world’s best golf courses and we find the most challenging two putts on their green complexes. This video is from the Markquist at Woven Golf Club and we’re going to go out and find some tricky slopes, some hard two putts, so that when you come and play here, you might be able to avoid a nasty three putt or two and you might even learn something along the way that you can take into your own game and improve your putting. Here we are on the third of the Marquis Golf Course at Wland Golf Club. And what a beauty it is. Amazing green comfort. Really? Yeah. Gorgeous. Lots of optical illusions also. So there’s plenty of slopes around here. We’ve got big trees. There’s a lot of raised areas around the green. This is definitely one of the greens that causes a lot of trouble for golfers. And it’s quite a long second shot in here. So quite often people are putting from the front quarter. And we’ve got our pin position. Pretty common pin position for this green in the back right hand quarter. And we’re going to talk about how this catches out a lot of golfers. Yeah. Because what we actually have here is a sneaky double break. And it’s going to go right to left and then left to right. But it actually plays as a dead straight aim. And the funny thing about this read is there’s a huge slope to our right here. Y. So the first third of this is traveling across a big slope and that would influence a lot of people’s eyes. They’d see this and they’d want to weigh more, right? Oh yeah, sure. Immediately your eyes are going it’s going to come hard off then. Yeah. But we know that what happens in the first third isn’t going to affect break. So we can just move that completely and it looks flat in the sort of second half, but there’s a enough slope there to bring the ball back left to right. So it comes out as a straight aim. Um, tell us a bit more about double brakes, Mark. Yeah, I mean, this is a a great optical illusion because the surroundings behind the green and even the mounting on the green themselves, you got a couple things going on. First of all, we have what’s called a a high horizon, which means the terrain behind the green is higher than the green itself. And when your brain sees that, it flattens the green. So, this looks a little bit uphill, but not terribly uphill. But what we can presume from that illusion is that it’s going to be a very slow putt. It’s going to play much slower than our eyes perceive. Okay. Right. And then we’re also influenced by a lot of other things going down going on. We have a low horizon on the right side which flips your brain flips the green the other direction. Sure. Right. So your your eyes won’t pick up the left to right that’s happening at this and there’s there’s some shoulders here and we know there’s a big slope onto our left there. Yeah. Uh overall there’s an awful lot going on on this green. So uh this comes out as a we’ve aimointed it. We’ve read the putt. where we’ve read the putt. It’s given us a read of straight aim. So, it’s aiming at the flag, but it’s going to be a double breaker that breaks right to left. I mean, left to right. So, I’m here. Yes, please give it a go. So, interesting what you said there about it plays longer than it looks. Yeah, cuz it doesn’t look that uphill. No. And I guarantee you it’s plays slower than you think. Okay. So, let’s have a go at this. And this straight aim feels strange cuz I know there’s a big slope that I’m going across. Can you feel it lining up for the ball? Yeah, I’m going to have to just commit to my straight aim. It’s really beautiful. Wow. Two cups. We’re about two cups out there. I hit that a lot harder than I thought I had to break. And that’s that illusion is that you just can’t pick up the elevation chain because of the ceramics. And that was a straight A. I’m really happy with the two pot from like six feet there. And it really felt like this was going to do more. Yeah. Can you feel the standing of the ball? You’re influenced by that. Absolutely. I mean, yeah, that’s a good good two from there. Great. Yeah. There’s so much going on. Just look up. Just things everywhere that you And if we now move say 25 ft left, little bit of a shorter puck, we’re going to bring in that big slope there. This is also a pretty common place for the door to finish. Yeah, it’s almost in the heart of the green. Yeah, it’s still been going down off the edge, doesn’t that? But putting in the middle of this green brings a whole new host of uh issues for the read. So, let’s go and have a look. Let’s have a look. Okay, Mark. So, I’m going to give you this read down and we’ve only moved sort of 20 ft left of where we were at. We’re in the heart of the green, which is a good iron shot, good approach there, but this pin position and the ball finishing here brings a whole new host of problems. So, so why don’t you go through the read and uh and and give us an idea of what you’re experiencing there because visually, you know, it’s left to right. Sure. Yeah. But I’m going to feel when you aim this, there’s going to be a surprise. Yeah. I mean, visually looking at it, I would think three or four feet left at the moment, but but we know not to uh trust that, do we? So, if I get up here and aim point, so that’s a five or a six, right? And then it’s flattening out, right? So I’m going to say a couple long six fingers. Six fingers which if I do six from here that is about 12 or 13 ft of bra. So this three times more than a nice sand. So if I do a six miles you just don’t see that. No you just you don’t see it. Oh look it breaks every quite did it. Same same problem as before. It’s more uphill than we perceived. Um, but it broke every bit of traffic. Okay, let’s hit that again and leave that again speed. I think that’s just I mean read spot on. It’s interesting fact that horizon. Yeah. So, so yeah, exactly. So, reading is just particles. Yeah. I mean, the ra the range of permanent picked up the six here. You don’t Now, I don’t see the six. Like, I can tell they’re slow here. bigger than average, but I do not see a 6% slope. I would call it maybe a four pass. And when you stop and you walk in here like hard down the hill. So So we found about 12 ft of brake from around 30 odd feet. Yeah. Now it’s a 22. That’s this little section. Yeah. And that’s not over allow for a lot more break on this part. And you know what? shoulder. That’s right. Any anytime you see a pike’s going to play slower. So, a good tip. [Music] Okay. So, we have now found oursel on the ninth green on the Mark Twist at Woven and stunning golfer. Unbelievable actually. Yeah. Beautiful. Just looks amazing. You’ve got all these beautiful, you know, trees and plants all around the green. We’ve got the dip there with the ferns in, but this green is not a nice green to put on. Uh there’s just so much going on. We’ve got our our low horizon. Very low horizon down there where everything falls off way way down. Right. A lot of hidden slope, a lot of really sneaky hidden slopes. And I think a lot of the trees and the bits that are going around this green really add to the optical illusions. Yeah, this green is a follow on to the previous green we did where we have the opposite effect. We don’t have a high horizon. We have a very low horizon. So if you look off to the back and right, you can’t even see the the ground that direction. It just falls off into nowhere, which is going to cause us to really tilt the grain the other direction. So we’re not going to see slope going to the right is what we can assume is anything going to the right. is not going to see it cuz we’re going to be uh confused by it by the obstacles. That’s really interesting because this is a part that a lot of golfers would miss way right. Yeah. Oh, I believe it. Yeah, I believe it. So, low horizon a bit like an infinity pool, right? Yes. A very low horizon because like I said, you can’t even see the ground back there. You know, it goes below what we can see and so it could go down 100 feet for all we know. and our brain, even coming up from the fairway, the green looked like it was just tilted straight up to me from the fairway. And you get up here and it’s not. It’s a lot flatter front to back than it appears from the fairway. So, it’s almost it’s almost um you’re confusing when you come up cuz your brain say, “Wow, I thought it was straight up and down like this and I’m getting up here and it’s not like that.” But I still have to deal with the horizon problem and it’s built into a slope out. That’s a pretty small complex. Okay. So, so let’s start with this part. this one. If the pin location’s on this back right side, this is a great iron shot into here. Yes, it’s very And um you know, it’s a tough shot cuz it comes off a hanging line and it’s down and then up again. So, I think you’d be really happy if you hit your shot to say 20 ft here. Yeah. But this part historically is always missed long and right. Right. And if I come in and just get my slope feel, and this is why aim point’s so good because we don’t have to be tricked by optical illusions. We can measure the slope. So, I’ve got my my number, okay? And I’m going to I’m playing this playing it as a three, which is quite a bit of break. But here’s the thing. This is all about how long the putt’s going to roll for because it’s very downhill. Yeah. More downhill than it appears. That’s what I’d say. because it doesn’t look that downhill standing here. If we look at it from side on, it still didn’t look very downhill, right? Uh so, so this is all about timing. And and what we’ll do is I’m going to time how many seconds this ball rolls to get to the hole. What would you guesstimate? I think it should give me about 6 seconds. Okay. So, we’ll put the actual timer on. The real number taking 6 seconds. And and that’s how I’d approach this part. I would think of it as in a how long would it go for that much time? So when you’re doing your rehearsals, Jamie, would you almost be getting that that feel? Well, I I’d be I’d be rehearsing this and trying to visualize the path. Each path. Yeah. Yeah. And the surprising thing about visualizing time is it feels like it takes forever. Wow. Yeah. 6 seconds. It doesn’t sound like a lot, but it in roll time it’s a hell of a lot. Hell of a lot. Yeah. See, I’d be sort of getting a feel for how long, you know, where would it be after each second is a good way of looking at this. Yeah. Um, just get my aim point done again. Okay. So, I’m going to really work on speed here. And this is just a putt you want to miss close. This is not a I think I can make this one. You don’t want to hit this. So, I’m going to hit the start button at impact. So, you time it from start of roll to finish. What did you think the seconds would be, Gary? Six to seven. There we go. So, 8 seconds to stop. Wow. So, still longer than we thought. Yeah. Okay, let’s hit that again. And even there, the last 5 ft looked like it just rolled over, didn’t it? And and that’s finished a foot short. It’s a safe two pop. Oh, yeah. Um, so down spot on with your read. Yep. 8 seconds again. Okay. Think. Yeah. You can put the seven past. Okay, let’s play the 8 second. A little bit firmer. Okay, how was that time? 8 seconds. Well, there we go. So, 8 seconds stays consistent. One is a foot short, the other’s maybe 14 in long. And I’ve hit this part a lot and even then I’m really shocked at how far that still rolled out. Yeah. Yeah. Just keeps going. I think if you weren’t used to the screen, you would be in quite surprised the first time this bike. I think what you you would get here is immediately above five, six, seven feet past and oh, this green is faster than the others. That’s classic. We hear that. Yeah. And I think there’s a compound error here which is the underread because you don’t realize how much left to right there is. Right. And that’s going to encourage people to hit the putts harder. Yeah. Right. And then when it runs too far, they say, “Oh, it’s the valley effect because it’s low down there.” It’s it’s not it’s not that. It’s an optical illusion. It’s not that it’s tilted. You know that there’s some magical magnet pulling the ball. It’s just it’s tilted different than you perceive. Yeah. You didn’t pick up on the slopes, right? This is one 20ft putt that you’d be happy with just a tap in for your next one. This goes in. Yeah. Yeah. Good. So, we’ll go look at a different one from a different angle, but still incorporating the same optical illusion. Same distance, same pin. Same distance, same pin, and it’s going to be a different effect on your read, but it’s caused by the same obstacle movement. Okay, let’s go do that. So, here we have another putt that’s 18 to 20 ft with the very low horizon on the right side, which is causing our brain to flip the green up from right to left. So, visually looking at it, it looks fairly straight. I mean, I see a little bit of left to right in here, but I don’t think I’d play more than a foot or two. It’s subtle. It doesn’t look like there’s much going on here. I don’t I don’t Left or right for sure, but it doesn’t look like a lot. No. And standing at the ball, you certainly don’t feel it cuz it’s very flat where I’m standing. So that also contributes to the the mystery here, you know, visually. Yeah. Now, if I go do go through and do an eightpoint read, by the time I get here, that’s a four. Now, I don’t not see a four there. But if that’s a 4% slope, 5t of break. Yeah. And we do a four on a point, it’s it’s almost 5 ft left. Yeah. Visually, we might see just a little. I mean, yeah, we know it’s left to right, but you you’d never see 5 foot of break. Never been a 5t out on the on the left side there. Let’s see how this pull. Now, I don’t I don’t It looks ridiculously high to me. Let’s see what happens when we hit it up there. And it just slams to the right. And it was slower than I thought because of the low horizon. There we go. So, there’s another one we left. Yeah. Short. Short. Yep. All right. and a little bit harder. Gets all the way up there on the four and then just curves like that. Oh, there we go. Nice. But visually, you’re never going to see that. The only way you get that read right if you go there and feel that much slope left to right. Very cool. So, if you if you if you’ve got this part, you better be allowing enough brake because that thing was was was breaking so much from 20 feet. It broke five feet. That’s 25% of the overall distance was it break amount which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And to your point in the last part, people will probably try and use speed here to manage this button. And it’s uphill. And it’s uphill. So it gets going and then it starts moving. You could leave yourself a four or five footer yet again. That’s an uphill putt breaking 5T. Right. The same downhill could be 8 ft. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. So um so we’ll go have a look at one last putt, right? Yeah. Yeah. We’ve got a nice long one with the low horizon again. Uh let’s go and let’s go and show you what it says. We could spend hours on this green. We’re going to show you one more putt because this is a very common place to put from again. Yeah. If there’s a front pin position, uh people are coming in from quite a height. We see a lot of balls finish past the pin. So this is very common. And where we’re standing now with that low horizon again, this looks straight downhill. Yep. Well, and there’s all there’s two things going on here actually. There’s a mix of a low and a high horizon, of course, because it goes down 30 feet and it goes up 40 or 50 feet. And so, it’s really confusing what’s happening here. Yeah. And and this looks like it’s straight downhill. It looks like it’s going to be a P that rolls forever. Yeah. But because of the way that low and that high horizon’s worked out, see, this isn’t flat, but it’s only a little bit downhill. And I think a lot of people leave this putt way short. They get scared at this. They they they hit it a lot softer than they need to. That just standing here, I feel like you currently have to hit it. Yep. That’s exact. It just looks like you get you just get this going and let Rob do the rest of the way. We’re going to play this putt, Gareth. And I think you just got to feel not be drawn into it looking like it’s going to be a long rolling pump. Okay. Well, I’ve done my read. Yeah, we know it’s a four. It’s a four, right? Also breaks a lot more than it looks like. A lot more than it looks like. Same same thing. We’re we’re under seeing the break that direction. So left to right here and right to left here, we just don’t see it. 40 foot putt. Likelihood of one putting you about two%. Pretty low. Yeah. Two or 3%. Likelihood of three putting much higher than that. You’re more a tour pro is more like to three putt than one p. Well, an amateur is going to three putt this like 50 to 75% of the time. Same thing. Sure. Just got to you got to make yourself hit these ones, haven’t you? It’s just visually it just looks like it’s going to take off there and you’re going to bite at the fairway. Uh also it was fantastic line it beautifully. Now you’ve got a 20 second bar. See that? That looks like you’ve really got to bring yourself to hit that one. Still not going to get there. Here you go. One more. One more. So remember, if you get this if you get this putt in play, it looks like it’s going to roll forever. It just doesn’t. Bud’s putting a hex on me. I’m just going to hit him. What feels like too hard and Yeah. It won’t feel good at first. No. Go, go, go. You’re kidding me. Still not going to get there. That just shows how amazing the illusion is. Here we got another boat. Yeah, I got to get one more chance. I got to get this right. um up on it. It just goes to show how how visually influent influenced we are. Yeah. Yeah. Um we got to overcome that now that longer and he’s standing on more slope than it is up there. Right. So now that looks like you’ve smashed it and and you made it barely. It’s a perfect speed. But right, as that ball got into its first leg, it look like it was going off the front of the green. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that would have probably two foot maybe maybe 18 in. But it looked here like it was going to go off the front of the green. So, you know, God knows what I felt like hitting it. Yeah. Well, it felt wrong. It felt like it was the wrong speed. So, if you find yourself in this position here on the ninth of the Marquis course at Woven, this putt downhill plays an awful lot uh slower than it looks. Yeah. But it also breaks a lot more than it looks as well. We’re playing four there, which is huge. [Music] All right, guys. We’ve got the 13th green here at the Marcus Course in Wurn. What a beautifully framed putting complex. This is just stunning, isn’t it? Yeah. Really be really beautiful. Lots going on here, Jimmy. We’ve set up a putt for you. And maybe you might just talk us through what we see and what we think might happen. Well, this is uh this is quite a long second shot in here. This is not an uncommon place to have a pin. Again, we we’ve kind of put to areas where regularly they have pin locations. And we’ve got our low horizon again. We’ve got trees. We There’s a hill going this way. There’s so much happening here. I think the size of the trees and how vertical they are has an effect on everything as well because this looks it’s a right to left brake, but you it doesn’t look a lot not a lot at all. Looks pretty straight. Not totally straight, but looks pretty straight. Yeah. And if we hit this where we’d read the pot with our eyes, we’re going to miss by four or 5t low because this is a 5% slope. Wow. And you certainly cannot see that. You can see cannot see that. If I play my fivecent, we’ve got that kind of 10 foot break actually. Oh. So, so, so we’re aiming pretty much 10t to the right of that uh marker there, the the ghost hole. It looks like it’ll just go straight to your aim if you aim if you aim. It really doesn’t look right. So, what we’ll do is we’ll hit this on the correct aimoint read. Uh and then we’ll uh we’ll show people what happens if we go with the visual read. And we all agreed that the first one uh that the visual was close to what we all see. Yeah. Yeah. Uh but now we’ll play our aim point version. The other thing here is this looks uphill. It does look uphill. Absolutely. And when we looked at it from side on, it’s almost level. Right. Right. So So it’ll be faster than it appears. You got it. So we’ve got all these things going on. Again, this is a massive break. And we are finding the trickiest two pot. So, no surprise we’ve got a huge break on these putts playing. So, let’s see where a 5% read finishes miles out to the right. Yeah, that Well, I mean, I’m happy cuz it’s 14 in. Yeah, you’re a foot on the high side versus three or four, five feet on the low side, right? And I think in my posture, I could feel so much weight in my heels here. Yeah. But that’s quite a common mistake for people to make to start it high. Hey, I’m I’m really happy with that. I mean, that’s still very good. 35 ft. Yeah. 35 ft. Yeah, that’s a foot. Aiming uncomfortably high. Yeah. Because it looks fairly level. And the other thing was I mean the speed. I wasn’t influenced by the low horizon and the fact it looks like it’s uphill. Yeah. And if you hit this too hard, it’s it’s going to catch that next. If you if you trust that and you pull it, you can leave yourself a real real long second. Yeah. Strategically, you would always want to miss this on the high side because low side just depth down there. Yeah. Yeah. So So I’m pretty happy with that, guys. Uh let’s go see G double breaker that we found out. All right. All right, guys. So we know this is a double breaker, but I’m standing here and my eyes are screaming at me to aim this pot left. We’ve got a massive shoulder here in the left hand side. Yeah. Everything looks like it’s got to be pushed out or pulled out onto that left. I’m just going to pop back in off that side. But when I’ve done my read in there, that’s not what I’m feeling. That’s a big slope. That’s a big big slope. Yes. Left to right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On my eyes are just immediately. That’s the first thing I picked up when we put the ball down here. I was like, this this looks like it has to be a left to right putt. Um but when I put my feet in there around about that halfway point, this is a 2% from right to left. Oh, I would never see that. And we we will test the incorrect read. Okay. the correct read. We will test the incorrect and the difference I think the two results will be will be absolutely huge difference between two putting and three putting I’m sure pretty wide I guess yeah because once I’ve done this now it doesn’t feel comfortable because even when I look up to the cup I can still see this infringing on my visuals right so I’m still I’m kind of getting a bit jittery and going I want to hit this a bit left of anything you feel like you’re going to miss it 5 ft right don’t you first 40% is left to right yep and it’s a big slope it’s a big slope yeah so we’re aiming right and the slope’s going to take it right take it right more Yeah. Let’s see what the ball does. What’s What’s the ball do on your feet? Is it below your feet when you stand there? It’s It’s pretty level. Nothing much going on there. It’s more when I look up to my target. And this this is still encroaching here. I’m like, got to hang this thing a little more to the the left. But let’s trust the feet. About 3 ft on the right, but a putter on the right and let’s just trust the read. So, it looks like it’s missing way right. That’s the thing. Okay. So, I’m watching that. I’ve missed it high. I’ve missed it high. I don’t think I’ve missed it high. Yeah. I mean, when that was 10 ft from the hole, I was convinced this is missing high still. Yeah. Yeah. It look like it. Well, I mean, it was right going right here. Yeah. And it was just veering off that way. Yeah. Really cool put to see and then action. And then we need to hit, as I say, the opposite where we do the eyes would tell us, let’s get this thing aiming up that left channel. I think you’re going to see a very different result. What’s the chance of a one putt this distance from here? There’s 3%. Yeah. Two to three. Same as same as always on 40. Taking two pots all day. Yeah. Right. So So that slope doesn’t influence break at all. Yeah. We factoring it in with our eyes and that’s where people are going to get caught out. Okay guys, so here we have the third putt we’re going to look at on the screen, which when I walk up to and look at it, looks like it must go right to left. You know, we assume most screens are pushed up from back to front. Y visually, it looks like it goes subtly right to left. And as you saw from the drone shot, if you play it out right, it keeps going right and you miss more and more to the right. Um, it also runs faster than we think because of the extremely low horizon behind it. So, it’s very easy to hit the seven or eight ft past the hole. Now, if we do a proper aimoint read here, it says two left to right, which feels like you’re doing it wrong. You know, when you st even me standing up here saying two on the left, that can’t be right. I feel like I’m aiming below the hole. Two feet left of the hole. But that’s what the feel said. And if we hit the putt, it’s going left to right the entire way. And as light as I hit that, it still was too hard. Like I felt like that ball was not going to get there and it’s still 3 ft by the hole. But visually, never would you walk up here and say play this two and two and 1/2 ft on the left of this hole. That looks higher over there. Yeah. Yeah. Looks like the whole thing goes this way. And the whole front of the green does go that way, but there’s a subtle inflection backwards in the middle here that you cannot visually see. It’s hidden. And the only way you could get that correct if you weren’t reading it properly is trial and error, which not everyone has time to do, right? You get one chance in the golf course. You do. Unless you really knew these greens, you’d be getting caught out all the time. Right. The the other thing I’d say is Jamie, if if you hit a putt and it does something you just haven’t anticipated, you’re walking on to the next queen pretty well. Yeah. I felt like I hit that softer and I’m still past the hole on it. Yeah. Okay. So, you’ve got about 3T past. Uh yeah, but it’s breaking two two and a half ft left to right, which which again you can’t see. So, if you walked up here cold and you know just eyeballed it, did a visual read on this, you would have no chance to get it correct. No chance. Okay. So, we have had the chance to show you some of the toughest two putts here on the Mark Twist course at Woven, and there’s been some amazing optical illusions. Uh, we found some really tricky putts. We found some challenges that we had to overcome. And we hope that you’ve had a a good insight into what you’re going to get when you come and play this golf course. Just remember, when you’re putting, you can’t trust your eyes. Use a system.