Is Scottie Scheffler Challenging Tiger Woods As Golf’s GOAT? | Pat McAfee Show

Is Scottie Scheffler Challenging Tiger Woods As Golf’s GOAT? | Pat McAfee Show

And shout out to Scotty Sheffller. Scotty Sheffller. Uh, as I was, you know, watching what he was doing yesterday, you know, with my daughter run around, so you catch it back. It’s great backdrop. Great, great. A little earlier in the day, you know, cuz they’re in Ireland, so obviously they’re 6 hours, 7 hours ahead. So in the morning, you get a chance to watch it as opposed to just the afternoon. So there’s some pros and some cons. Long day afterwards with nothing afterwards, you know. So that is uh certainly a give and take that we had there. But watching this dude, it’s like, what words do you use to describe him? I guess inevitable. I guess that is a word that you could describe him as. Going into any tournament, it’s just like Scotty Sheffller is probably going to win this thing. I even put out a tweet that’s like every three weeks I get a chance to see his family. Little Bennett, this boy’s growing so quick. Yeah. Last time I seen this guy, you know, was at his previous win was just a few weeks ago and then previous wins a couple weeks before that. We’re keeping up with him every couple weeks here. It’s like I’m following him on Facebook. It’s like I uh I’m catching up with their family portraits basically as they’re going. Beautiful family, happy family. Little boy almost getting up that hill to get to the green. Fantastic. But all in all, the only word you can really say about Scotty Sheffler is obviously it’s like, hey, he has a four- stroke lead. He’s going to go right for it. There’s going to be a lot of uh danger in between. It doesn’t have to do it. He could play safe. Well, he’s going to And then he’s going to get it to six feet. Actually, obviously, that is what Scotty Sheffller is going to do. Hey, for the 10th consecutive time, he he’s had a lead going into uh Sunday. Four strokes or more. And now is the first hole. Is he going to be nervous? He’s going to come out a little gunshy. Uh-uh. It’s going to go ahead and put it to tap in length on the first hole. Let the rest of the field know like, hey, this Sunday is exactly how every other day is going to go. Then we go obviously, what a stroke. Middle of the fairway. What’s that mean? Oh, he mashed his drive to a perfect location. Hangs that thing up high right. What’s the uh what’s the topography going to do for you? Oh, it’s going to put it right next to the hole. It’s like anytime he needs a shot, he shows up and does it. And I I hate to like kind of harp on this because it does feel like it steals the chatter a little bit. People are like, “Scotty’s not entertaining enough to be a top man, a leading man. Does he have the personality of the guys of the past?” You know, Tiger, we had the red shirt on Sunday. We had the fist bump. We had the intensity. We had the entire thing. What do we have with Scotty? What do we have with Scotty? He’s just like, “Every shot’s a good one somehow.” Yeah. Every single shot somehow is being great. And he’s starting to show a little bit more emotion. He’s starting to introduce himself to the world a little bit more. He’s given some deep perspective takes about life and golf and his deal as a professional athlete and how he views it over the last few days. And I want to let Scotty Sheffler know, we love you, buddy. You’re great for sports and people watching you do your thing at the highest level in the biggest moments with the most amount of pressure and you not cracking at all. You staring down the biggest moment and the hardest moment because in golf if you’re off by that much, I mean, it’s over. He could still score a nine on a hole. Yeah, there’s still a chance that that could happen on any swing. He said, “Can’t wait to get to Memphis. Now everybody’s even par yet again.” Here he is on 124 for birdie. You know, 11 was a tough hole. Everybody’s talking about 12. He bounced back, get a birdie here, no problem. How you doing? Keep it moving. Then he wraps it up on 18 with like a three-foot tap in as the guy that he’s playing alongside basically said he was a joy to play with. The guy’s happy. He doesn’t seemingly have any like bad traits about him at all. The way he views life is spectacular. Think there’s a chance he might start smoking a little weed. Sure. which I’m obviously I am a huge proponent of. If not, he’s been at the top of the mountain long enough now that he’s been able to look around and be like, “Hey, all I wanted to do was get here. This is all I wanted to do. Become the best I could possibly become. Be the best in the world. Get to the top of this mountain.” He gets to the top of the mountain. He looks around. This is it. This is what I committed my entire life to. He He told He gave an answer yesterday afterwards. It was like, “When I was like four or five years old, I used to wear pants to the golf course because I saw professional golfers do it. All I’ve ever wanted to do is become a professional golfer. My entire life I’ve tried to become a professional golfer and then you get here and you realize that the only good time is right after you win and then it’s like a two to three minute feeling and then it’s like okay got to get home back to America got to get to my family got Memphis on Tuesday everybody’s even part this is kind of the same notion that everybody that gets to the top of their p respective fields kind of starts to feel it’s either you win is a relief and a loss is total devastation. He’s at that point now in a sport that it’s not supposed to have that type of expectations where if he’s in a tournament, he’s supposed to win it. And if he doesn’t win it, it’s like, what what happened? And if he does win it, it’s like, well, he’s supposed to win it. Let’s see what happens next. I hope there’s a chance for Scotty to continue to be able to play as well as he’s playing while viewing the world this way. And I hope he continues to balance life and golf at the same time because I think he’s doing it better than any meastar has ever done it, any phenom has ever done it. And then you listen to Jordan Speed talk about him afterwards. Didn’t kind of could have been sh kind of felt like a shot. Kind of felt like a shot about how he he does things differently than all of us and he doesn’t do as many corporate events. He’s not chasing money. He’s not chasing any of this. He just wants to play golf and be with his family and he’s able to turn it off when he goes home. And he said he was going home with them and he wasn’t able to. It’s like Scotty Sheffller might be the most relatable, normal, awesome dog. Yeah. In the history of sport. He is a dog. To get this good, you have to have a maniacal work ethic. You have to be dialed in. You have to know every little thing about your swing, the golf ball, the golf course, and everything else that’s happening around you. To do that, the amount of work you have to put in is absurd. So, we’d like to say to Scotty, we appreciate the hell out of your commitment to your sport. We appreciate the hell out of your commitment to you and uh us watching your baby boy grow up into inevitably becoming a champion, which we assume will happen in anything. Doesn’t matter what he does, if it is golf or something else. We can’t wait to follow along and thank you for what you’re doing for sports because when your name’s on a leaderboard or when you’re in a tournament, it is mustwatch because there’s a chance that he goes seven straight holes and hits the best shot you could possibly hit on every single shot. Let’s go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. He’s untouchable right now. And the only person that you can compare him to is Tiger Woods. And he and Tiger polar opposite human beings. Both wear the check mark though. Yeah, they do. The only person like the the current run that he’s on is is Tigerike. and I hope he continues to do it. You know, like Kepka, Spith, Rory, they had all they had runs similar to this, but the difference between that and Tiger was the Tiger just did it forever. Um, but you talk about being on the leaderboard and being in the tournament, he has put the PGA Tour on his back. He’s got 11 straight top 10s in 30 of the last 36, that’s the last two years, he’s been top 10. If he’s in the 30 of 36, he’s been finished in the top 10. So, like if he if Scotty’s playing in a tournament, he’s going to be in the top 10. He’s going to be there and everyone’s going to tune in to watch Scotty. He’s literally putting tour on his back. And if we know anything from uh Swing to Survive. Yep. Correct. Yep. Full Swing. Drive to Full Swing on Netflix. Their schedules are horrendous. Oh yeah. Cuz he’s back in Memphis Tuesday or Wednesday. So he was just obviously in Northern Ireland. Has to fly back to Dallas, Texas. Then he’s in Memphis. That’s on Tuesday, Wednesday. He has to go in there, get the course, get a practice round, proam. I assume he’s not doing those prom anymore. Who knows? I hope he isn’t either. Guy’s making top 10. He’s in every single weekend. He’s doing his entire thing. But it’s like him being able to balance being a human while they’re their touring schedule is insane over there. Not a lot of time down, not a lot of time with family. The fact that he’s been able to balance it all and figure it all out. I’m proud of them. I’m pumped for him. Let’s go to the talks table at Boston Conor at Tai Schmidt. Con man, your thoughts on old Scotty Sheffler carrying golf right now for all of us. And even I think the Liv guys and the PGA guys, they’re all saying that’s the [ __ ] right there. And uh that’s a good place to be if you’re him. Yeah. And thank God we got him. Like I feel like without Scotty, it is a much different tournament. Obviously it’s a major no matter what you’re going to tune in. But I think that was my biggest takeaway is that when it is a major you want, you know, 18th hole coming down to the finish. You know, everybody’s tied and and you’re damn near going to go to a playoff. But when it comes to Scotty when it is like that and you’re just watching Scotty Sheffler golf cuz that’s all it was. You weren’t watching for, you know, competition. You weren’t watching to see who’s going to win. You know Scotty’s going to win. You’re watching Sunday just to see what he does and he delivers. Like that’s why I I think I have grown to love Scotty so much is because it’s not like a hey walk in the park. You mentioned it the first hole. He’s going he’s basically going for the hole. He’s going for a damn albatross and he doesn’t need to. I think that’s why it is so entertaining and it is great to have a dominant golfer because even when all those guys were going, you know, Brooks was making his run and everything, there wasn’t like the clear-cut number one. Tony just said it, in the last two years, he’s been top 10 in 30 events. Like, he is by far the greatest goal. He’s head and shoulders above whoever you want to put at number two. And I think that’s why it has been so entertaining to watch some of these matches because, you know, he’s just balling out. Yeah, I enjoy watching him golf. And and what can’t be lost in all this debut nine-year NFL vet is the amount of work that has to go in to get to this point, you know, because he’s just so hoham all the time. You know, it’s just like I just hit it 350. Oh, I just put it to 2 feet on a Sunday at the open. Uh a major that I have never won before. Well, I just made a huge putt. He made I I forget what his putts were. He has the best day he’s ever had putting. I think I think he’s figured out the putting cuz the putting was kind of the question mark here. How good was uh Scotty’s putting? Says Jamie Kennedy. great account pulled up some great stats. He finished a week 59 to 63 putting inside 10 ft. Okay. So, those are the ones that are first of all, they piss you off. Yeah, the knee knockers. Yeah, the knee knockers are the ones that piss you off. But also, if you’re able to make those, you can gain a lot of strokes. Scotty Sheffley used to miss every once in a while uh at this at distance and everybody was like, his only weakness is his putter. His only weakness is putter. It’s like the guy’s won three majors. I I don’t know if his putter is that weak. I understand it’s not as good as his irons or his driver, but he went to work on his putter. Very clear, very evident. Changed his grip. Changed his grip and he went to the claw grip and it’s been it’s been different since. And you talked about everything, man. How his peers speak about him. I think Deshan Bohe spoke about him after. I think they’re both like Dallas area kids. He was like, “Look, I used to play against Scotty all the time. He was never that good.” You talked about the work ethic like he was bogey free up until that part put. That was when he showed like the biggest, you know, emotion when he had the big fist pump. He had a double bogey a little bit later, but that kind of shows you even though I’m head and shoulders above the the field. I’m going to win this tournament. I care about my next shot, my next stroke. He’s just d and it’s not like he’s uh perfectly fundamentally sound. He’s not like a Adam Scott or like a Rory like you look at that. Okay, this is the perfect swing. His feet are always different. His finishes with his hands. So, a guy that like me who’s kind of, you know, fairly new into golf and watching him do it and watch him do it his way and still be kind of like just himself, it’s almost like watching Barry Sanders. Like Barry Sanders, he was dominant. He did freaky [ __ ] on the field every Sunday, but he was just he wasn’t like speed. He wasn’t doing all the other things. And obviously, this is an individual sport, so he can win unlike Barry on those old Lions who had to struggle with some tough teams. But it’s been special watching Scotty, man. It’s unbelievable. Yeah, it’s a good comparison there, Barry Sanders. I I really I never thought of that as you’re saying it because you know Barry with Where’s Barry Sanders from? Kansas. What What’s that? Whereabouts? Uh Wah. Oh, I’m not going to lie. The first It’s tough. You’re really trying to put some softs on W. Cheetah. Yeah, like a little Spanish. The I The first I hard second I pronounce that thing as an E accent. Yeah. Yeah, with cheetah Kansas is not a bad spot. But yeah, obviously uh Barry Sanders obvious handed the ball back to the official after a touchdown. People still were told that to this day. It’s like watching Scotty Shaft. Will he be like this for 20 years? Possibly. And you talked about his swing being new to golf. Everything they tell you, you’re not supposed to do. Hey, those feet need to remain the same. Those feet need to stay there. Somehow Scotty’s been able to dance. Obviously, not in his but in the driver uh in the T- box. He does the hokey that some [ __ ] right foot in. Oh yeah. Left foot in, both feet out. Mhm. Balls jumping. So it’s like obviously you got to find your spin every time you see that target. Boom. The the triangle. The little triangle. Hey, this where you need to aim. It’s like they were golfing in Pittsburgh. Third tree over. This is where you need to hit it. And then all of a sudden Scotty’s balls just And then oh wait, is it going to come back? Of course it is. Like a magnet. The guy’s unbelievable. He fooled me this weekend. I thought, you know, when he was talking all the deep [ __ ] because you mentioned it, you know, talk about all the greats, Payton, Tom, Jordan, Tiger Woods, like they weren’t speaking on any of this B. They just spoke on dominating and killing the the opposition. So, for him to be having those deep answers going into it. Do we have the video? Yeah, okay, let’s go to it. It feels like you work your whole life to celebrate winning a tournament for like a a few minutes. It only lasts a few minutes. That kind of euphoric feeling. And I like to win the Byron Nelson Championship at home. I literally worked my entire life to become good at golf to have an opportunity to win that tournament and you win it, you celebrate, get to hug hug my family, my sisters there. It’s such an amazing moment and then it’s like, okay, now now what are we going to eat for dinner? You know, life goes on. This there’s traffic outside. We got to win. Is it great to be able to win tournaments and to accomplish the things I haven’t game of golf yet? I mean it it brings tears to my eyes just to think about because it’s literally worked my entire life to become good at this sport and to have that kind of sense of accomplishment I think is is a pretty cool feeling. You know to get to live out your dreams is very special. But at the end of the day it’s like I’m not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers. I don’t I’m not here to inspire somebody else to be the best player in the world because what’s the point? You know this is not a fulfilling don’t do it life. It’s it’s fulfilling from the sense of accomplishment, but it’s not fulfilling from a sense of like the deepest, you know, places of your heart. You know, there’s a lot of people that make it to what they thought was going to fulfill them in life and then you get there and all of a sudden you get to number one in the world and then they’re like, what’s the point? And, you know, I I really do believe that because, you know, what is the point? You’re like, what why do I want to win this tournament so bad? That’s something that I wrestle with on a daily basis. It’s like showing up at the Masters every year, it’s like why do I want to win this golf tournament so badly? Why do I want to win the open championship so badly? I don’t know. Because if I win, it’s gonna be awesome for about two minutes and then we’re gonna get to the next week and it’s gonna be like, “Hey, you won two majors this year. How important is it for you to win the FedEx Cup playoffs?” And it’s just like, we’re back here again, you know? Um, so we really do we work so hard for such little moments and um, you know, I’m kind of a sicko. I I love putting in the work. I love being able to practice. I love getting out to live out my dreams, but at the end of the day, sometimes I just don’t understand the point, you know, because I I don’t know if I’m making any sense or not, but um am I not? It’s just it’s just one of those deals, you know? I I love the challenge. I love being able to play this game for a living. It’s it’s one of the greatest joys of my life, but does it fill the deepest, you know, wants and desires of my heart? Absolutely not. Um what do you find fulfilling? I mean, I love playing golf. I love being able to compete. I love living out my dreams. Um, I love being a father. I love being able to take care of my son. I love being able to provide for my family out here playing golf. And, um, you know, every day when I wake up early to go put in the work, you know, my wife thanks me for going out and working so hard. And when I get home, I try and thank her every day for taking care of our son. It’s just, you know, that’s why I talk about families being my priority because it really is. You know, I’m blessed to be able to come out here and play golf. But if my golf ever started affecting my home life or it ever affected the relationship I have with my wife or with my son, you know, that’s going to be the last day that I play out here for a living. You know, this is not the beall end all. This is not the most important thing in my life. And that’s why I wrestle with why is this so important to me? Because, you know, I would much rather be a great father than I would be a great golfer. you know that at the end of the day that that’s what’s more important to me when I sit back at the end of the year and you know I kind of try to reflect on things like having that sense of accomplishment from winning the Mast’s tournament from winning the PGA championship I have a deep sense of gratitude and appreciation for it but it’s just hard to explain how it doesn’t it just doesn’t satisfy is is how I would describe it it’s an unsatisfying venture and so I guess what I what I’m trying to say is this is not this is not the place to look for your satisfaction. This is something that’s where you can have a great appreciation for and a great um like a great amount of thankfulness for being able to do this and it’s I mean like I said it’s it’s literally one of the most fun things that I can do in my entire life. I love being able to come out here and play golf and compete, but at the end of the day it’s just not what satisfies me. He says all that before winning the open. Okay. He says all that before winning the open. Whenever golf is an in between the ears game more so than any other sport because of you know if you miss by that much it’s a shank. It’s a whole different tournament. You got to hit the thing pure every single time to know where you’re going. And I am at a much different level than Scotty Sheffller at all things. Being a human it sounds like being a father being a husband. He checked all the boxes in there about how hey whenever we prioritize what’s important at this stage in life. Now if you were to ask him at 18 okay it’s vastly different now. He’s generated a lot of capital. He understands what’s available. He understands what life is. At this stage of my life, if you were to ask me what’s important, it’s this and this. Now, this being great is amazing thing. And there were some people that took it negatively. And that’s always going to happen. I think what Scotty Sheffller just said was incredibly profound. I think it was amazing to hear the insight of what it’s like to be one of the greatest of all time at something. And at a much smaller level, whenever I talked to Jim Ers about retiring, I told him I was like, I thought cuz I didn’t really know how to punt when I got drafted the NFL. So my entire chase was like, I want to become the best in the world at this. I want to figure out how I can become the best at this, the best at this, the best at this. I want to get better for my team every day work. Every decision I was making was like, am I going to be a better punter or worse punter because of this? Can I kick balls further because of this? And then I finally get to the point where I think I don’t want to speak out of pocket here, but I think everybody kind of realized that I became the best in the world at my jobs. I was doing multiple uh kick kicking off, punting, and holding. We almost had two perfect seasons. So, like I think all those things I got to the point where some would consider me the best in the world at it. And I got up there and I was like I thought I’d feel different, you know? Thought I feel still get diarrhea, you know, still have traffic. Uh my power still goes out of my house. Uh plumbing still an issue. I still have all these problems that I thought were just going to disappear if I became great at it. And I was very confused by that. I said that at the gym. I was like that was a tough thing for me to kind of grasp cuz this thing that I was chasing was vastly different whenever I got there than what I thought it was going to be. And Jim immediately he had a vape his vape smoke was going out. He could have been a professional cloud vape blower. I think the amount of smoke he said he was talking to one of the Beatles. I think it was Ringo Star. He said I was talking to Ringo brother and he said they got all the way up to the top and they just stayed up there and at some point you’re at the top of the mountain. You look around and you go, “This view isn’t as good as it was. Why did I This view is nowhere near what I thought it was going to be.” Whenever I was puking on the way up here, when I was sacrificing my entire life on the way up here, when I was giving up friendships, when I was giving up moments, I get all the way to the top of the mountain cuz this is what we’re trying to get to. And the view is not worth it. Just not worth it. So now what do you do? Well, now you just got to hang out up there and look at something that you almost feel is like a regret because this is what you chose to focus on. And he said, “But what the people at the top of the mountain forget is that there was a time when he couldn’t see that view. And the view kind of gets lost behind the mountain. And then every once in a while, you see a reset. People kind of get reset. You get dropped back down and then all of a sudden it’s like, wait a second, that view wasn’t that bad.” Then you come back. And he said it’s very natural in like people’s lives. So I wonder if that’ll happen for Scotty. Inevitably, I’m not saying it’s going to happen anytime soon. Obviously, he’s incredible. But inevitably, it feels like whenever you get to the top of the mountain, you’re not always going to be able to remain fulfilled. you’re not always going to be remain uh satisfied. Everybody has to find something to continue to work for. That’s why like Nick Sabin whenever he wakes up every day, Bill Bich every day, that mamba mentality at a Koba Kobe every day. It’s unique. It is a very very unique thing that I think a lot of people from a lot of different fields struggle with. And I think Scotty’s in the middle of it like I’ve sacrificed my entire life to be this guy. And it’s amazing. And then all of a sudden, ah Bennett just blew up his diaper. Okay, we needed some wet wipes here. we need to move on. I’m still a human. I’ve loved everything he said. Yeah, it was perfect. And that’s why I think a lot of people, you know, find other things like, you know, like even like awasa to find like, okay, what’s the true meaning of this? But like when you have, you know, you have kids and, you know, you reach all those different pinnacles, whether it’s drafted, whether it’s signing a $100 million deal or doing whatever it is. And then you realize, okay, there are things that are much more fulfilling. But you rarely hear that from a guy that’s entering his prime like dude like 29. like you you heard like Kobe, God rest his soul, like he was that guy kind of towards the end of his career after he was done, but it’s usually when guys are old and washed up and it’s kind of behind them, they’re looking back. You rarely hear a guy speaking like that when they are at the pinnacle. Um, so I I love everything about what he’s doing, you know, obviously, you know, on the course and then off the course as well. I think it’s a great message, not only to athletes, but just to everybody. I think so, too. And AJ, you think this is potentially a little mental game he’s playing with himself? Uh, I think it’s like, hey, this ain’t that important. Yes, for sure. I think it’s hugely beneficial, especially as a golfer because think of I think that frees them up to go out there and play because like what’s the worst that can happen? I’d lose this tournament. Cool. I still got my awesome life outside of this and we know golf like look at the stress that these guys are under every single shot. Like say you’re a dude that’s a stud but you’re trying to get your first major or whatever and you have the lead heading into the last like the last day. You have to sleep on the lead and tee off at 3 p.m. Like the amount like just golf is a sport where you have to be free. You have to feel like you can you can let it go. And I feel like Scotty because of his mindset, because of his perspective, it g like it frees him up. He’s like, “Hey man, like yeah, I work my ass off all day every day, but I understand this isn’t who I am, but yeah, it’s awesome. Why don’t I how about I just become I’ll be the best dad and husband and the best golfer in the world. Let’s see how many years I can make that go.” Well, and Jordan Speed saying he’s able to turn it off when he goes home and everything like that. That’s rare. Like this dude’s a rare this a rare mindset that people at the top have. And it might be a mental game, you know, to minimize golf in his eyes. like, hey, we already have it all, you know, and the Nike ad was sick. You’ve already won. So dope, but another major is nice or whatever it is. It’s like, it certainly is. That mindset in golf can be a very, you know, weaponizing. That could be a very good one. Knowing that, hey, alternate plans here, go hang out with my kid. That’s not a bad little fallback plan. But you talk about uh the guys trying to make it and how nerve-wracking it all is. There was stats came out. Obviously, we all saw it. I think we posted in the first hour. That’s 10 consecutive Sundays he’s had to lead going into the day and he ends up winning. Only 27 more straight to catch Tiger Woods now. He’s not even 30 years old, so this could happen. Right. Tiger had 37 consecutive Sundays where he woke up with the lead and ended up winning. That’s unbelievable. He was an assassin. Yeah. That’s why that red shirt meant something. You know, when that red shirt showed up, it’s like this dude’s either catching up cuz Saturday was moving day. Okay. So, we’re either catching up or we’re taking a lead. And then Sunday, what are we doing? We’re watching this jungle cat prowl this grass and mow down everybody. And it was like he 37 straight times. Scotty only a 10 now. That’s he’s young so he’s going to have to catch up. But it is crazy once you start putting the Tiger records in. It’s like if Scotty’s able to do this for another 15 years, okay, there’s the chance he can catch him. But that’s what golf is. Golf is a very much like a 50-year-olds can play professionally. Even [ __ ] 60 year olds can play professionally. It’s a good sport whenever it comes to that. Yeah. Tiger also had 11 majors um at the same age that Scotty is right now. But Tiger like when we’re talking the men what 11 majors? Yeah, Tiger had 11 at 28. But then he had you know he had that decade where you know some things happened and he didn’t like so Scotty if Scotty in his 30 just hit that back window of his SUV that glass shattered hit him in the head from the driver to he was at a driving range. Mhm. Took the driver back like this. There was a car Yeah. Like I did with that that TV. Yep. In the old I think that’s something like that. But Tiger mentally like I feel like Tigers like you know like Kobe like Jordan like Tom like like guy like Payton like guys that are just wired even Yeah. wired to be the greatest of all time. I I don’t feel like Scotty’s wired like that. And I feel like him trying to get away from golf is better cuz we’ve seen runs like this with like Sp and and Rory and Brooks and they where they won four or five majors but then like it did feel like mentally it got to them and they I mean it took Rory 10 more years and Sp hasn’t won again and Brooks hasn’t won again but it does feel like if able to get away I’m going to admit because of everything you just talked about mentally when I heard him give that answer just like how was that? Yeah. I said I don’t know. I don’t know if this weekend’s the weekend for him. feels like he’s thinking about too much. And then it turns out looking back on it, it’s like, no, he’s thinking about the right things. He was he was thinking about all the right things going in.

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