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with the investment that they’re
putting in their young players.
A lot of people flirted with taking them seriously. In 2024.
It did not deliver, but now
they’ve locked down. They’re locked down. Corner Sauce
Gardner with the New York Jets
agreeing to a new extension with the player. Four years, just
over $120 million, making him
the highest paid cornerback in NFL history, making him a
cornerstone in this defense for
years to come. Derek Stingley Jr, Jaycee Horn, Jalen Ramsey,
Pat Surtain Defensive Player of
the year, the reigning out of the Denver Broncos defense.
Those guys all are getting paid
a handsome penny. But now sauce tops the list entering the 2025
season. So we look at what moves
the Jets have made with Garrett Wilson, their young wide
receiver, earlier this week. And
now considering Sauce Gardner, our thoughts hearing this news
yesterday that he has become the
highest paid cornerback ever. Manti, is this justified in the
Jets decision? I think it is
justified, Jamie. And you use this term cornerstone. It seems
like they’ve signed both of
their cornerstone players in this. In this week’s news. But
what I do think is number one,
congratulations to sauce. As a player, I know that you worked
so hard to have this have this
day happen. So congratulations to you. But I also think it’s
such a smart signing by Aaron
Glenn and what they’re doing over there at the Jets to sign
Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner
we saw a couple of years ago when Hard Knocks was over there.
Just a competition and what that
sparked, what that looked like. And if you are Aaron Glenn and
that Jets franchise, you want to
have your two cornerstones on the field, on the practice
field, doing what they do,
competing and setting that precedence for everybody else in
the locker room. Right now,
Jamie knows this. We’re potty training my son, boy, and me and
my wife. We have a thing where
if he goes potty in the toilet, we celebrate this guy. Like I
give him any dried mangoes,
blueberries, whatever. You’re going to get exactly what you
want if you do what you’re told.
I think this is what Aaron Glenn has been doing with the Jets
franchises. If you do what
you’re supposed to do, if you produce, if you behave, you are
going to get rewarded. We are
going to reward you. I think that is such a smart thing with
Aaron Glenn going into his first
year with with the with the Jets. And what a way to start by
signing the two cornerstones,
cornerstones of his franchise to these long term deals. Yeah. You
know, I think I really love this
signing for the Jets. Sauce has obviously been a great player
since the day he stepped foot in
that Jets uniform. But I think this contract says more about
the league and where it’s going
necessarily and how great of a player you know Sauce Gardener
is. It just feels like every new
contract we’ve been seeing these last couple offseasons, it’s
like most highest paid at this
position, highest paid at this position. I’m going to Ross
Saint Brown now, Trey Smith the
other day as well. I think it speaks to a lot of how big our
sport is getting and how much it
is growing, how much the TV money is coming in, and how the
caps of the of the teams each
and every year are going up and up and up. So, you know, I think
it just says a lot about the
growth of our sport and how much money we’re bringing in that a
guy like Gardner, just three
years into his career, is signing a contract of this
magnitude. So I think it’s
awesome for the sport. I think it’s awesome for the New York
Jets. He’s obviously a corner
piece, like you said, this team and I’m looking forward to
continue to see grow in his role
and get better and better as he becomes a veteran in this
league. I agree, I couldn’t have
said it better. He has been growing and getting better. I’m
also just happy for the Teo
family and their potty training. And imagine imagine getting
rewarded if you work and you get
on the potty and your reward is some dried mango, you guys do
things differently. Eminem. My
kid would get 50 Tootsie Rolls and a PlayStation five. I don’t
even care if he can play it.
Dried mango and blueberries. Well no wonder are they going to
the bathroom? It works. Snake
eating its tail. It’s part of the plan, brother. It’s part of
the plan. Add some cashews in
there. The cashews. I’m impressed. I’m impressed. All
right, so to the topic at hand,
first of all, happy for the Jets. Happy for both the players
that they’ve signed in this off
season. It’s a really, really cool thing when the guys you
draft turn out to be something
good. I just have to know what’s next now, all right? Because you
don’t get any credit for signing
players in the win column. You don’t get any parades. And I go
back to these photographs. Let’s
go back and look at these two players Garrett and Sauce who
will always be linked. And this
is an NFL honors after their rookie year. And this was the
coolest Jets moment in a long
time because oh my God they swept the rookie of the year.
They got the offensive rookie
year the defensive rookie of the year. And that is tremendous
credit to them in the NFL draft,
which is a very difficult thing that so many people mess up.
They stuck the landing that year
and they got those two guys. Since that photograph was taken,
the jets are 12 and 22. They’ve
won 12 games and they’ve lost 22 since that photographs were
taken. The coach is gone. The GM
is gone. All the coordinators are gone. They finished third
behind the Dolphins and the
bills two years in a row. And still the Jets playoff win was
on. Both those guys holding
those trophies were in fifth grade. I’m glad that they have a
very good corner and I’m glad
that they have a very good receiver. Do we have anything
even approaching a good
quarterback? Because in the time since those pictures were taken,
NFL honors Zach Wilson, Mike
white, Joe Flacco, Chris Streveler, Trevor Siemian, Tim
Boyle, Aaron Rodgers and now
Justin Fields. Is he going to actually do anything? Are we
going to win here. Because as
much as I like seeing Garrett Wilson and Sauce holding those
rookie of the year trophies,
it’s been a few years now. I would love to see them holding
some t shirts at the end of the
season that maybe say division champs, or just a turkey leg, or
a Netflix jacket or just
anything after a game. Can you have a conversation with Tracy
Wolfson after a game that
matters that you won? They’re three and seven in prime time
since those pictures were taken.
So listen, great. You stuck the landing a few years ago. You
signed your players. Just I need
to see some sort of, like, progress. Anything other than we
sign guys, and then we’re paying
them a lot of money and they’re good. We’ve had those guys. We
know what they’re like on the
field. We know what you’re like with them on the field. I can’t
do backflips here in New York
City because Sauce and Garrett are signed. I’ll do backflips
when they’re actually playing a
game that matters in December and it’s really time. So great
job. I hate to be such a cynic,
but it’s really time to start winning with those guys now that
you’re paying them. I don’t
think it’s based in cynicism. If what you’re saying is in prime
time, the Jets are three and
seven, and the fact that the headlines and what they asked
for in signing Aaron Rodgers and
bringing in some of these stars of Davante Adams, they
under-delivered in a in a year
last year where they were overhyped to the max people
having them winning the
division. Rodgers was an MVP. This is what people expected of
this team. So perhaps 2025 is a
little bit more comfortable Kyle. And that they are
underhyped and they are hoping
to be over delivered in the where they are expected to rank.
Kyle, you just mentioned it
perfectly. The New York City aspect of this. You are you live
north of Manhattan. You are well
amongst Giants fans. Jets fans. What’s the what are the
newspapers like? What are people
saying? It feels like the dandy. The diaper dandy is the Giants.
The one that the feel good
story. What are people saying about the Jets? Well, I’m
looking at the I’m looking at
the New York Post here and it’s here. We got a big picture of
sauce here. It says green piece.
New extension means the world to wide receiver. Here’s the thing
I think Garrett Wilson is really
likable. I think sauce is really likable. So I think it’s very
positive. Right now it’s July.
But you know this week one they come out and sauce gets beat
deep for a touchdown. He’s going
to be torched in this paper I think the same feelings of your
question Jamie is I say this all
the time. Good morning. Football is going into its 10th NFL
season this fall. We have never
had a good Jets or Giants team like zero for 20 combined. It’s
really, really time. So who does
New York want to win the Jets or the Giants. Yes. Anybody please.
And I’m with them. Yeah I think
also the positive thing KB is exactly what you just
illustrated there. The
expectation for them going into this year with all of these
changes is relatively low. And
that’s such a contrast to what we’ve experienced the past few
years. When the they signed
Robert Seh, who was one of the best defensive coordinators in
the league for the 40 niners. He
comes over. There’s this expectation that’s built. And
you got Aaron Rodgers. Davante
Adams comes over. So now this this narrative starts going. And
I think for Jets fans we’re like
we’ve seen this movie before. And I think that works well with
what Aaron Glenn is trying to do
with that franchise. They’re under the radar right now for
the first time in a long time I
think. And so it’s going to the expectation isn’t going to be
there for them to have to live
up to. And now they’re coming into this year as almost an
underdog or somebody that’s not
really talked to. And if you’re a team that’s building and in
your first year with a first
year head coach, you kind of want that going into a season.
Yeah. I think when you when you
look at this, when you look at this Jets team, you look at the
Sauce Gardner contract, you look
at a year or two ago who’s now the fifth highest paid corner.
Teams are starting to get the
trend of doing early extensions and paying their guys when they
need to be paid, and now that
contract is looking like more of a bargain, being the fifth
highest paid corner. When we
know Patrick Kane is arguably probably the best corner in the
league right now. You look at
this defense, you mentioned Rob Saleh, like they’re still
playing with that same attitude
that Rob instilled in them. You got Quincy Williams and Keenan
Williams over down the middle at
linebacker. In the middle you got Nati who they brought over
from Kansas City who was an
absolute run stuffer. You watch the way this team rushes the
passer. Will McDonald and
Jermaine Johnson like these guys get after it. So between that
marrying the rush with the
coverage Michael Carter the second the best nickel corner in
the league right now in my
opinion. And then you look at Justin Fields. He’s got some
weapons now. Mason Taylor
Garrett Wilson just got paid. Josh Reynolds a possession
receiver like this isn’t just a
team that looks good on paper. This is a team that looks good.
Period. End of story. And then
when you match that up with the schedule that the Jets have,
which I think is just a mid
schedule, I got this team going ten and seven borderline
probably playoffs. We’ll see if
they can make a run. But I good team and not just on paper but
but for real. Okay. Damn. All
right ten and seven. All right I just said they had no
expectations. Now you just said
it. I think it was the Aaron Glenn. I think he has an Aaron
Glenn. He’s being convinced by
the new head coach as he should. Absolutely. All right. Coming up
on Gmfb Lane Johnson. Wow.
What’s happening with Lane we’ll remind him of that every
day. We are coming up in the
world on Whiteboard Wednesday. I just have to brag to Kyle Brandt
real quick. Look at how the Arts
and Crafts department treats us in New York City. You know how
we always have to do a reveal,
Kyle. We are now laminated with popsicle sticks. We are no
longer going to struggle with
the paper erasing our answer. Okay, so look at that. It’s
Whiteboard Wednesday and it
never has to touch the whiteboard. We are so fancy. Get
in here. When you come to LA
you’re going to think it’s such a treat. Okay, first up on
Whiteboard Wednesday, three
topics. We had a discussion yesterday with Willie Colon
about Jalen Hurts being
underrated. And Willie had this to say about the Eagles
quarterback. I’m sitting here
kind of scratching my head like, why do we keep moving the
goalpost when it comes to Jalen
Hurts right. Because he has the numbers in the regular season.
He has the numbers in the
playoffs. He delivers time after time in big moments when every
other quarterback around you
talk about L Jackson against Buffalo. Couldn’t get it done.
You talk about Josh Allen.
Couldn’t be Joe Burrow. There was one guy walking around the
NFL that said that could beat
Patrick Mahomes, and that was Joe Burrow. Can’t find him right
now because even though he can
throw 40 touchdowns, he can’t find his way into the playoffs.
So I’m saying to myself, why
aren’t we giving Jalen Hurts his flowers? That’s a great
question. And if that’s Willie’s
guy then here comes the question for Whiteboard Wednesday. Who is
another player that doesn’t get
enough respect? Manti, the way that Willie is explaining Jalen
Hurts? Well, the past few weeks
we talked a lot about Justin Jefferson, Ja’Marr Chase. I
mean, heck, we talked about
George Pickens, but this is a receiver in the league that guys
he needs more respect okay. Mike
Evans for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Like when you talk
about one of the most
underappreciated guys in this league, later in the show, we’re
going to talk about an all time
list by one of the all time greats. This guy is on an all
time great list okay. He has 11
consecutive 1000 yard seasons. That’s second to only one person
Jerry rice. He had he’s one of
four players that has 12,000 yards and at least 100
touchdowns in 11 seasons.
There’s only four people that have done it him, Jerry rice,
Marvin Harrison and Randy Moss.
Just those four guys. But we don’t talk about him a lot for
whatever reason. We just don’t
talk about him and talk about being paid. As far as a wide
receiver, okay? He is the 20th
highest paid wide receiver in the NFL. So talk about somebody
who needs more respect and
should get more money. It’s Mike Evans. But knowing Mike Evans,
he’s never going to ask for it.
All he wants to do is win and stack up the yard. So Cabinda, I
think the guy that needs the
most respect is Mike Evans. Man, I know you know this guy. That’s
crazy because he’s from the
exact same team. What I’ve got Lavonte David guys, linebacker
Tampa Bay. This guy has been I
mean almost ten consecutive seasons at 100 plus tackles. And
he’s the type of linebacker that
does it in every single way. I mean 39 career sacks, 13
interceptions, 31 forced
fumbles. He’s a tackle machine. He’s a turnover machine. And
really, just because of the fact
that guys like Fred Warner and Roquan Smith of the world, we
simply just don’t talk about
this guy enough. I mean, just been super consistent. He’s a
three time all pro and he just
does it all, doesn’t say anything. He just goes out there
and he’s just consistent game
after game year after year. So I think a guy who really deserves
a lot more credit, a lot more
respect, and we should talk about a lot more. Lavonte David,
he does it all two, two good
names. I do not have a Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but I have someone
who I don’t know if it’s going
to surprise you or not. I was really impressed last year with
Jerry Judy from the Cleveland
Browns. He had an incredible season on a miserable Browns
team, catching passes with
everyone from Deshaun Watson to Bailey Zappy. You can look it
up. He had a 1200 yard season
again on a very bad team that was not only bad, but
dysfunctional and broken. I get
that it didn’t work out in Denver like it was supposed to.
A lot of guys after that
happens, they just melt away and they’re out of the league. You
never hear from them again.
Jerry Judy showed up last year and was the best offensive
player for the Browns by far. I
like the way he handled himself. He kind of shut his mouth and
went to work. After going
through a lot of crap coming out of Denver. Respect it and I
think he’s going to have another
good year this year. I don’t know who else is going to be
throwing him the ball, but Jerry
Judy last year had a bounce back who knew? I see another t shirt
in the making. The quarterbacks
to have thrown to Jerry Judy. And it’ll be a long list Kyle
it’s a good answer. Next up we
had this video of Lane Johnson and Lane Johnson put it out
yesterday on social media of him
carrying 705 pounds like it’s a camp backpack. He just puts it
on his shoulders. He’s like,
here I go. I got my water bottle in my lunch pack, but it’s a
casual 705. Yeah. The player or
coach that you would love to see compete in the World’s Strongest
Man contest, Manti is this
should be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers segment because I’m
going to stay with the making
it. Yeah guys listen, when I choose you to be the 100 humans
that will beat the one gorilla,
you are in this conversation of the World’s Strongest Man
contest. The guy had 41 reps at
the combine on the bench press 41. The first 30 looked like he
was throwing up the bar. Like
the guy is just strong. And if you don’t believe me, he is the
highest ranked guy on Madden
when it comes to strength. He’s a 98 on Madden. So Madden thinks
he’s the strongest. I think he’s
the strongest. And Bucs fans I know Jason Cabinda has seen this
guy not only toss weight around,
but toss linemen around for a long time. Until your point
Cabinda. You had Lavonte David.
Lavonte David is able to do what he’s able to do because of this
big dude in the middle named
Vita. So I got Vita as the strongest dude. I got another
great name we haven’t heard in a
while, man. I’ve got Richie Incognito on this dude, bro.
This dude was an absolute bull.
Like an ox, man. I’ll tell you what, Richie Incognito is
probably part of one of my
welcome to the NFL moments. I remember coming in my rookie
year thinking I was about to
come downhill. Big ten linebacker. I know all about
stopping the run. I remember we
had an inside zone run period and Richie Incognito hit the
defensive tackle and he came to
climb up to me, the linebacker. And when I tried to shed this
blog, when I say I tried to shed
him with all of my might and you know, man, these veteran
linemen, they hold a little bit.
But when I say I use all of my body, all the talk that I had to
try to get this guy off of me
and absolutely nothing, I couldn’t get off of him. Some of
the strongest hands I’ve ever
had on my in my chest was Richie Incognito. He is super strong.
I’ve seen him bench a ton of
weight in the weight room. And also Richie’s a great dude, man.
I had a lot of great locker room
conversations with Richie. Awesome. Awesome guy. Very
interesting dude. I want to put
that out there as well. Yeah, I hear that Richie stepped in a
lot of infamy in his career,
conflicted opinions about him, but I’ve heard a lot of his
teammates who have spoken up for
him and say he’s glad. We’re glad he’s on our team and
certainly really strong guy,
really good offensive lineman. I miss the World’s Strongest Man.
I don’t even know if they still
do it. I just remember, like in college, you would pass out on
the couch and wake up at two in
the morning and it would be on ESPN two, and it’d be some guy
named Magnus from Iceland
pulling a bus with his teeth. You’re like, this is awesome.
You guys named two really strong
guys. I’m sorry to tell you, though. Like, it’s both of them
are going to lose to mine. I
don’t know if you’ve heard of this player. It’s a local player
from New York Giants. It’s a
rookie running back. Cam. And this showed up at the New York
studios here. This is a fan made
cam angry run shirt. This is not mine I didn’t make this homage.
Didn’t make this this is not
official. Because as I always say, you got to earn the shirt.
But they made an Arizona State
one. They made a Giants one. He’s got the scepter. He’s got
44. He’s already having people
make and send merchandise in the show’s name. And he hasn’t even
taken his first snap yet. You’re
going to take that New York Giants bus. He’s going to put it
in his teeth, and he’s going to
crawl in the ground like Magnus, and he’s going to be the world’s
strongest man in New York. Go!
Giants! Go! They’re already sending me merch. It’s never
happened with anybody I love it.
I got one question, KB, I just got one. How come it is not on
you right now? I thought I
expected you’re talking about t shirts. I expected when you came
in this morning, right? I know
you’re locked in to the show, but when you saw that cam scout
shirt there, you’re like, screw
this polo. I’m putting on the cam scatter boo! Angry run
shirt. Great question. I can
answer that, man. Ty, you know how sometimes they’ll be like
hockey players who are like, I
don’t want to touch the Stanley Cup until I win it. That is not
a real shirt. When cam wins
angry runs week one of this season, I will make the real
shirt. I will wear it, you will
wear it, we’ll all wear it. And when he wins week two and week
three and week four. But until
then, this is a very nice, well-intended garment. But it’s
a Fugazi angry run shirt and I
can show it to you, but I will not wear it until he wins it for
real respect. Hockey’s got a lot
of things like that. It’s like, that same interview, Terry
McLaurin would go on to say
that, quote, without any progressive discussions, it’s
hard to see how to step on the
field, end quote. Frankly, the demeanor that you see on Terry
McLaurin during that media
availability is so different from the guy that we see on the
field all the time the smiling,
the scary Terry, the celebratory wide receiver. Manti, how do you
see this situation playing out
with McLaurin and the commanders? Well, you said
earlier in your in your segment,
Jamie, that we listen to players and what they say. I like to
listen to my co-host says Willie
colon yesterday talked about Garrett Wilson and everything
that he’s been through when he
signed with the Jets, and that the lack of production from that
team. Well, when as he was
talking about Garrett Wilson, I immediately thought about Scary
Terry because what that guy has
had to go through in the six years that he’s been with the
Washington Commanders guys, he’s
only been to the playoffs once, and that was last year. And that
is a player that has had five
1000 yard seasons in his six year career, the only time he
didn’t have 1000 yards receiving
was his rookie year, and I think he missed it by 80 yards. So
this is a guy, Washington that
has been with you through the dark times. He’s a guy that has
been with you through the rough
times. Matter of fact, he’s a guy that’s been with you when
you change your name like 2 or 3
times. That’s how long he’s been with you. And he’s. And he’s
been riding with you ever since.
It’s like the movie love don’t cost a thing. KB have you ever
have you ever seen the movie
Love Don’t Cost a Thing with Nick cannon? There’s a guy
named, of course, it’s a remake
of Can’t Buy Me Love from the 80s. I’ve seen it. You’re just
revealing your age on this show,
okay? Because I didn’t know that show. I only know love don’t
cost a thing. And, you know,
knowing that storyline, it’s about a nerdy guy who wants to
be famous. He wants to be
popular, and he kind of buys his way into this popular circle.
Well, he leaves his nerdy
friends only later on in the movie to find out that these
popular guys, they start to find
out that he’s not who he says he is. And so he kind of goes, and
he begs to be with his friends
that were with him from the beginning, through the dark
times. That’s like scary Terry.
Guys. Okay. Stop playing with him. Washington there’s a reason
why we’re talking about the
Washington commanders this year going into 2025. And a lot of it
had to do with Jayden Daniels,
but a lot of it had to do with Scary Terry and his performance.
So let’s not let’s not forget
that a lot of this success that you guys had was because there
was a guy that has been around
there for six years, and he’s had to deal with all of the junk
that came with being a part of
that team for all of these years. And now you guys are
great. Don’t forget about the
guy that was there with you during the dark times. And
that’s scary. Terry, I hear
that. I hear it’s a good points. There’s a lot of things I’m
agreeing with. You guys are
saying, first of all, Jamie. Yes, the Terry McLaurin body
language is terrible only
because the Terry McLaurin body language is usually so good.
He’s usually so charismatic and
upbeat. He looks beaten down. He does not look good. He does not
look happy, but maybe he looks
dug in. I would also say I’m going to be so mad if like 20
minutes from now or 20 days from
now, I see some Ian Rapoport tweet that Terry McLaurin has
been traded to the Jaguars. I’m
going to be if that happens I don’t want that to happen.
That’s not that’d be like a
football crime I want him to be there. It’s also complicated.
Like the record has scratched
for the commanders who have been in this montage mode of this
beautiful run. And the new owner
is so well liked, and the new GM is doing so great. And they
drafted the right quarterback.
Well, I don’t know. Terry McLaurin has been around for a
long time. He preempts the
owner. He preempts the GM. He goes back from the from the dark
era. So if you’re a commanders
fan, are you team McLaurin like Manti San? Are you like, you
know what, I roll with Josh
Harris and Adam Peters. Like I’m going to trust their business
acumen and their decisions. I
don’t know. Here’s what I do know. And I’ll and I’ll try to
end with a thread of optimism.
These things usually get taken care of. I really do think they
usually work out whether and we
thought Deebo would never play with the Niners again. They
signed him. And it’s not just
the Niners thing. Typically you don’t see star player just
completely discarded. I think
they’ll get it done. But geez, I mean 30 years old 30 million.
He’s a really good player. I
think probably that the fans are maybe a little bit more with
ownership in the GM since
they’ve been so great in the last few years. See, Kyle, it’s
actually interesting that Manti
makes this movie reference. And the thread of the movie that
Manti knows is a 2003 film has
no concept that that is a remake of Love Don’t Cost a Thing for
it to become. Can’t buy me love
for it to become love don’t cost a thing. If I was management and
ownership and I am working with,
let’s just say, the next gen of commanders fans, I would want to
get this thing done with this
guy because he is representativ, despite being there during all
this transition of this
Washington football team to the commanders. That is Terry
McLaurin in its essence. So if
you have some young up and coming fan. I went to college in
DC at the time, the NFL, they
were fighting for fandom for this team, specifically because
the Ravens were poaching them.
You got people living in town that are from elsewhere, but the
commanders have a vibe now, and
I feel like if you don’t invest in somebody who is
representative of this winning
culture that finally exists, then what are we doing? And you
risk losing the interest,
perhaps, of these young fans. So I would sign more with the Terry
McLaurin in this circumstance,
but hopefully fingers crossed. As Kyle said, it all works out
okay. Moving on quotes, on
quotes, on quotes. We’re still Hall of Fame wide receivers take
on wide receivers currently
currently playing. Talking about all time lists though this time
it’s the Tyreek Hill category.
Randy Moss says quote he’s nowhere all time. Where is he at
in today’s game. Tyreek Hill is
probably top five probably top five. Sure I put him in the top
five. Our reaction to Randy Moss
and his ranking of Tyreek Hill. Yeah I agree that he is a top
five currently currently right.
His his the follow up question was he’s nowhere all time. And
it’s hard. It’s so hard to have
these kind of conversations. Because we are in a time in an
era where guys have seen Tyreek
Hill do amazing things on the football field. We’ve seen a
level of speed that we haven’t
seen in a long time. Matter of fact, I firmly believe, Kyle,
that there’s a there’s a saying
that says speed kills in the NFL. The problem is this that’s
that’s false. Like the speed
doesn’t kill in the NFL. Separation kills. And Tyreek
Hill because of his speed he has
he has speed that it’s just not even human. And because he has
that he creates separation. He’s
been doing it for the Kansas City Chiefs when he first got
into the league. And he’s been
doing it for the Dolphins. Now when you think about the crowd,
he’s with the group that he’s
with. He’s 42nd all time in receptions and receiving yards.
40s so to give some validity to
what Randy Moss says about all time, he he’s kind of right. And
if you think about Anquan Boldin
and Reggie Wayne, he’s he’s tied with them with 30th in career
touchdowns. And that’s not
saying again, I think what we have to do is kind of change the
tone of this question. I think
what people may think when they hear, oh, he’s not he’s not
anywhere near the all time list.
They may be like, oh, he’s a hater. He’s a hater. He’s I
don’t think he’s being a hater.
I don’t know why. Nowadays when you speak the truth, it’s
offensive. He’s just giving you
a fact that, hey, he’s 42nd in receptions and receiving yards
and he’s 30th for touchdowns.
And I think with those facts alone, it gives some some
validity to what Randy Moss
said. But again I do want to give Tyreek his flowers by what
he’s been able to do in his
career. Right now his career isn’t done. So KB I guess we’ll
have to see how it plays out in
the end and where he ranks in the end. And maybe we can
revisit this conversation. Yeah.
And Randy Moss can say whatever the hell he wants about all time
great wide receivers. The point
is, is that Tyreek is still in his career. He’s still he’s
still a young man all time.
Great. That means you know you’re a first ballot Hall of
Famer. You’re in the
conversation in a handful of the greatest ever. It’s TBD with
Tyreek. And that’s what I think
is interesting about Tyreek right now. Fascinating portion
of his career as we move
forward. He has played nine seasons all time greats. And
first ballot Hall of Famers are
made in the back half of their careers. It’s the Michael Jordan
learning the turnaround jump
shot portion of their careers. So I will compare him now. He
just finished his ninth season.
He’ll be starting his ten this year. 10th year. Tyreek Randy
Moss from season ten to the rest
of his career, had 56 more touchdowns. Terrell Owens had 58
more touchdowns. Jerry Rice had
82 more touchdowns just starting on season ten. And a couple of
those guys, especially Moss and
T.O, did it with a whole bunch of different quarterbacks. They
did not just lock in and ride
with one legend. So what I’m saying for Tyreek is it’s all in
front of you. You could be an
all time great I don’t think he is now. He’s not an all time
great. He’s a great player. But
Tyreek has it in front of him. If he can find a way in the back
half of his career to do what
these guys like Moss and Owens and Rice did, which is continue
to develop and evolve, he could
be an all time great if he slows down a little bit and he doesn’t
have those other gears and he’s
a pretty small guy, then he’ll just be this awesome, awesome
player from the 20 tens and
2020s who went with Mahomes and on and on. All time great is in
front of him. We’ll see what he
does with it. KB, I got a question for you because you
just pointed out something that
I kind of mentioned in my little segment about speed doesn’t kill
because you you mentioned that
all of this, all of these accomplishments happened in the
latter end of these, these
really good receivers. What is it about those latter ends?
Because obviously it’s not
speed, right. It’s they’re not getting faster as they go. But
what about I have my own take on
it. But what about it. Do you think in the end allows him to
have even better production
later in the career? Well, I mean, listen, rice is the all
time legend, ridiculous work
ethic. And then Jerry rice is in his 40s. He’s catching
touchdowns on the Raiders and
the Seahawks. He just like it was separation. It was
knowledge. It was wisdom. And
Tyreek is like has this luxury where he’s just like I got a
bazooka I’m faster than
everybody on the field. I’ll just blow past them. But I think
he doesn’t get enough credit as
the nuances he knows as a wide receiver. So in the short answer
is you work your off and you
learn new ways to play the game, like the Jordan turnaround.
We’ll see if Tyreek does that.
We have our own bazooka on the show Jason Cabinda was with us
earlier and he’s back. We lost
him for a second. But Jason Cabinda you got thoughts on
Tyreek Hill and whether or not
he qualifies for this all time list in conversation. Yeah I
mean I think it’s definitely
early to talk about all time. You can definitely say all
decade. I think we can all agree
that Tyreek is going to be an all decade guy. There’s no
question about that. But I think
the interesting part about this conversation, what makes Tyreek
Hill super unique I think is his
size. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a receiver at his size be
able be able to operate anywhere
on the field. Normally the Wes Welker, the Julian Edelman’s
they only operate inside or in
the slot. Tyreek is a guy who used to play running back, who’s
a true number one, who can play
truly number one outside wide receiver and run absolutely any
route inside the tree. And I
think that’s what is going to be the differentiator in the
conversation is how much does
his size and his specs contribute to his greatness and
his ability to do things that
guys, we only saw at six, three, six, four, six, five be able to
do it. I think that’s what makes
Tyreek so special and such a different, unique type of
player. That’s where your brain
and my brain differ so much. Because I had the same exact
thought about Tyreek Hill size.
But I looked at it almost as a hindrance moving forward for
him. Because Kyle just blew my
mind with some of those numbers for touchdown catches for some
of those great wide receivers.
Moving on from year ten. And in my mind, the reason why T.O. Or
Randy Moss or Jerry rice were
able to stack some of those TD catches later in their career
was they became these big bodied
red zone threats. Maybe they weren’t that explosive off the
line, where they’re catching
seven of ten balls as they move the ball down the field. But if
you can rack up those numbers,
maybe it is because you can elevate and legitimately Moss a
guy is Tyreek capable of that in
his career because of his size. So I kind of spun it a different
way which is if the speed ever
falters for Tyreek Hill how else is he going to separate himself
both physically on the field
from a defender. But also with this conversation of some of the
great guys what do you think
about that Cabinda. Well I think that’s another thing that makes
Tyreek so unique is the
explosion is absolutely off the charts. Like he can jump as high
or if not higher than a Terrell
Owens at his size. Like we’ve never seen guys at his size be
able to get 5050 balls at the
rate that he is that he that he’s able to do that. This guy
jumps over DBS at whatever
height he what is Tyreek 511 whatever 510 he’s short for the
for the number one wide
receiver. So to be able to jump over DBS and do those things at
that size yes I believe it’s a
hindrance. But I don’t think we can really talk about it right
now because he’s not showing any
signs of slowing down when it comes to that speed, when it
comes to that athleticism. So I
think that’s a conversation that we can have when we finally do
see the cheetah lose a step. All
right. Moving on with quotes, on talking about the New York Jets
and their expectation coming
into the season. Let’s broaden the scope on the AFC East and
look at the Miami Dolphins.
Because, Kyle, all of this for me at least comes in the context
of holding up the cards that we
do before week one of every NFL season with our playoff teams on
it. And the fact that you have
to consider deeply not only who wins a division, but if another
team within the division gets
there. If you think about the Dolphins and Tua and how this
team is built with Mike McDaniel
at the helm. Manti, what do you make of the Dolphins? Are you
considering them a playoff team
knowing that the bills have run the table the last couple of
years? Well, it’s kind of hard
to talk about them as a playoff team because you just don’t know
how the season is going to play
out. As far as Tua’s health. Tua there’s been a lot of
conversations about Tua. People
tend to forget in 2023, he led the league in passing yards, and
that just happened to be the
same year that he played a lot. So if Tua Tagovailoa can stay on
the field, that Miami Dolphins
offense gets very, very scary. Not only with Tyreek Hill, who
we talked about earlier in our
show, but then you have that. You have a whole bunch of other
weapons that you could think
about for them. Now there’s going to be some some sort of
transition here for them with
with the talent that they lost. But you know I guess we’re just
going to have to see. But as
long as Tua Tagovailoa is on on the field good things happen for
the Miami Dolphins. Yeah
absolutely. So you mentioned it DeVante Tyreek Hill Tua and
Jaylen Wright. We got to talk.
Jaylen Wright running back for the Miami Dolphins. He’s joining
us now on Gmfb. Jalen what’s
going on going on. Good morning. How are you doing. Great to see
you. Great to see you. Let’s get
right into this Jalen you’re you’re spending your time in the
off season. You’re perusing
social media. And you decide to pin a tweet right at the top of
the list about yourself that say
they done messed up. What’s going on with that? What’s the
narrative behind that message
that you put forth in the life of Jalen? Right. I mean, last
year when I you know I got the
call. You know when the Dolphins you know took that chance on me
I mean that was the team that I
wanted to go to. And I feel like this is a team that you know, I
fit the system most. And you
know, just, you know, God gave me the ability to do what I
could do. And, you know, when I
get on that field, you know, I’m a show. So they don’t they don’t
messed up and they don’t see you
and talk about the team that signed you. They didn’t resign.
And this is Miami Dolphins. They
didn’t resign Raheem Mostert or Jeff Wilson. And you’ve spoken
before of Jeff Wilson and how
he’s been a mentor to you. You’re not about to go into this
space of man, I’m excited that I
got this job. But I’m also sad that I’m losing like a big
brother, a mentor to me. How is
it? How is that transition going to be for you, you think heading
into this season? I mean, you
know, those guys are, you know, you know, really good guys to
me,specially Jeff. You know, I
looked up to him. You know he showed me the way. You know just
not having them just makes me
step up more into a leader role in the running back room. You
know, on the team. So, you know,
just me playing my cards, right? You know, just me stepping up,
you know, when I need to step up
on and off the field. Jaylen is Tyreek really that fast. Is he
still that fast. Tell us about
the state of Tyreek. Nah for sure. He definitely that fast.
You know Tyreek man you know for
him to be doing what he’s doing at the age you know he’s a huge
competitor. You know we always
compete. All the fastest guys on the team always compete when
we’re doing drills and things.
You know he always want to be first yeah he’s definitely still
fast still has it. You know I’m
very excited to see what he’s going to do this year. Jaylen I
got to ask about the mad
scientist the offensive guru your coach Mike McDaniel. He’s
also got the creative play
calls. Have you been putting in any new plays or new wrinkles
this offseason that you’re
excited about? Yeah, yeah Mike you never know what he’s going
to do. You never know what kind
of plays he’s going to come with in practice. You know he
sometimes he gets bored and you
know he switches a lot of things up. So you know just just him
you know just knowing what he’s
doing and you know just the things that he does it
definitely works. He’s
definitely smart and he definitely knows how to use
everybody’s skill sets. So yeah
it’s going to be great. Jaylen. It’s always good to be a part of
the football conversation,
especially in the off season where we have a little bit more
wiggle room to explore our
opinions on players. Historically, Randy Moss is out
here, one of the greatest wide
receivers of all time, talking about where Justin Jefferson
ranks and Jamaar Chase, and now
he’s saying that Tyreek Hill, while he may be a top five
receiver he’s nowhere all time.
How does that make you feel about even just the concept of
ranking players currently. But
what makes playing with Tyreek Hill special on offense. You
know Tyreke. Tyreke draws a lot
of attention. You know where he’s at. You know he’s going to
draw attention. People got to
respect him I definitely feel like Tyreek can be somebody
that’s that’s in the Hall of
Fame I feel like Tyreek is a great guy a great great receiver
great player. He’s hard to
handle I mean speed can’t teach. So I mean I mean I kind of don’t
agree on that. I feel like
Tyreek something very special. He already something special.
But definitely like he he can
work his way to a Hall of Fame. Jaylen you said something
earlier. And I want to follow up
on what you said. You said when talking about Tyreek and his
speed that all the fast guys
race each other. First of all who are those fast guys on your
team? I think we all kind of
generally know who they are, but who are those fast guys? And if
you guys have raced, who’s the
fastest fast guys I probably give you? It’s just a lot of
fast guys we got. I’m putting
myself in there. Of course. Devon Jaylen Waddle Tyreek we
also got just this other guy
named Ethan Bonner. He’s cornerback. He’s very fast US
racing I mean we have never
really raced like all that. We did like little like five yard
little bursts whatever. You know
Tyreek you know he tries he comes in first. You know a lot
of times I mean I feel like
sometimes he cheats the whistle. But you know but you know you
know we all competing. You know
we all out there you know just doing our thing. So you know
it’s going to be exciting this
year. You know Jaylen after the season last year Tyreek went on
social media and kind of vented
a little bit. Felt like he didn’t take this season or the
off season as serious as he
should have felt like the standard wasn’t as high as it
should have been. What changes
in this offseason as Mike McDaniel may be made to make
sure that the standard is the
standard, and that the culture is right going into this next
season, we’re really just
holdin everybody accountable, you know, making sure everybody,
you know, is just all together.
I feel like, you know, we’ve been doing a lot of a lot more
team bonding activities, you
know, to create that brotherhood. You know, just
that’s that’s what matters. You
know, with a within like the long season that we pray. So
everybody got to stick together.
So I mean it’s off season you know just keeping everybody
together you know holding
everybody accountable. You know just everybody just being all
in. Well we look forward to
watching the Dolphins this season and fighting for their
right within the AFC East.
Jaylen Wright a part of that offensively for the Dolphins.
Jaylen awesome to see you this
morning. Stay healthy and we wish you the best. We’ll talk to
you this season. All right yes
ma’am. Thank you. Thank you brother. Good luck. Good to see
you. Fins up. Fins up.
Absolutely. We’ll be right back DeVante Tyreek Hill Tua and
Jaylen Wright. We got to talk.
Jaylen Wright running back for the Miami Dolphins. He’s joining
us now on Gmfb. Jalen what’s
going on going on. Good morning. How are you doing. Great to see
you. Great to see you. Let’s get
right into this Jalen you’re you’re spending your time in the
off season. You’re perusing
social media. And you decide to pin a tweet right at the top of
the list about yourself that say
they done messed up. What’s going on with that? What’s the
narrative behind that message
that you put forth in the life of Jalen? Right. I mean, last
year when I you know I got the
call. You know when the Dolphins you know took that chance on me
I mean that was the team that I
wanted to go to. And I feel like this is a team that you know, I
fit the system most. And you
know, just, you know, God gave me the ability to do what I
could do. And, you know, when I
get on that field, you know, I’m a show. So they don’t they don’t
messed up and they don’t see you
and talk about the team that signed you. They didn’t resign.
And this is Miami Dolphins. They
didn’t resign Raheem Mostert or Jeff Wilson. And you’ve spoken
before of Jeff Wilson and how
he’s been a mentor to you. You’re not about to go into this
space of man, I’m excited that I
got this job. But I’m also sad that I’m losing like a big
brother, a mentor to me. How is
it? How is that transition going to be for you, you think heading
into this season? I mean, you
know, those guys are, you know, you know, really good guys to
me, especially Jeff. You know, I
looked up to him. You know he showed me the way. You know just
not having them just makes me
step up more into a leader role in the running back room. You
know, on the team. So, you know,
just me playing my cards, right? You know, just me stepping up,
you know, when I need to step up
on and off the field. Jaylen is Tyreek really that fast. Is he
still that fast. Tell us about
the state of Tyreek. Nah for sure. He definitely that fast.
You know Tyreek man you know for
him to be doing what he’s doing at the age you know he’s a huge
competitor. You know we always
compete. All the fastest guys on the team always compete when
we’re doing drills and things.
You know he always want to be first yeah he’s definitely still
fast still has it. You know I’m
very excited to see what he’s going to do this year. Jaylen I
got to ask about the mad
scientist the offensive guru your coach Mike McDaniel. He’s
also got the creative play
calls. Have you been putting in any new plays or new wrinkles
this offseason that you’re
excited about? Yeah, yeah Mike you never know what he’s going
to do. You never know what kind
of plays he’s going to come with in practice. You know he
sometimes he gets bored and you
know he switches a lot of things up. So you know just just him
you know just knowing what he’s
doing and you know just the things that he does it
definitely works. He’s
definitely smart and he definitely knows how to use
everybody’s skill sets. So yeah
it’s going to be great. Jaylen. It’s always good to be a part of
the football conversation,
especially in the off season where we have a little bit more
wiggle room to explore our
opinions on players. Historically, Randy Moss is out
here, one of the greatest wide
receivers of all time, talking about where Justin Jefferson
ranks and Jamaar Chase, and now
he’s saying that Tyreek Hill, while he may be a top five
receiver he’s nowhere all time.
How does that make you feel about even just the concept of
ranking players currently. But
what makes playing with Tyreek Hill special on offense. You
know Tyreke. Tyreke draws a lot
of attention. You know where he’s at. You know he’s going to
draw attention. People got to
respect him I definitely feel like Tyreek can be somebody
that’s that’s in the Hall of
Fame I feel like Tyreek is a great guy a great great receiver
great player. He’s hard to
handle I mean speed can’t teach. So I mean I mean I kind of don’t
agree on that. I feel like
Tyreek something very special. He already something special.
But definitely like he he can
work his way to a Hall of Fame. Jaylen you said something
earlier. And I want to follow up
on what you said. You said when talking about Tyreek and his
speed that all the fast guys
race each other. First of all who are those fast guys on your
team? I think we all kind of
generally know who they are, but who are those fast guys? And if
you guys have raced, who’s the
fastest fast guys I probably give you? It’s just a lot of
fast guys we got. I’m putting
myself in there. Of course. Devon Jaylen Waddle Tyreek we
also got just this other guy
named Ethan Bonner. He’s cornerback. He’s very fast US
racing I mean we have never
really raced like all that. We did like little like five yard
little bursts whatever. You know
Tyreek you know he tries he comes in first. You know a lot
of times I mean I feel like
sometimes he cheats the whistle. But you know but you know you
know we all competing. You know
we all out there you know just doing our thing. So you know
it’s going to be exciting this
year. You know Jaylen after the season last year Tyreek went on
social media and kind of vented
a little bit. Felt like he didn’t take this season or the
off season as serious as he
should have felt like the standard wasn’t as high as it
should have been. What changes
in this offseason as Mike McDaniel may be made to make
sure that the standard is the
standard, and that the culture is right going into this next
season, we’re really just
holding everybody accountable, you know, making sure everybody,
you know, is just all together.
I feel like, you know, we’ve been doing a lot of a lot more
team bonding activities, you
know, to create that brotherhood. You know, just
that’s that’s what matters. You
know, with a within like the long season that we pray. So
everybody got to stick together.
So I mean it’s off season you know just keeping everybody
together you know holding
everybody accountable. You know just everybody just being all
in. Well we look forward to
watching the Dolphins this season and fighting for their
right within the AFC East.
Jaylen Wright a part of that offensively for the Dolphins.
Jaylen awesome to see you this
morning. Stay healthy and we wish you the best. We’ll talk to
you this season. All right yes
ma’am. Thank you. Thank you brother. Good luck. Good to see
you. Fins up. Fins up.
Absolutely. We’ll be right back right. This is really cool. It’s
a household NFL name. He is a
five time Pro Bowler three time first team all pro. He’s also a
Super Bowl champion. And
recently he decided to hang up the cleats. And we’ve got him.
We’ve watched him. We can’t wait
to talk to him. Please welcome Ndamukong Suh. What’s up big
man. How we doing. Yes yes. Some
Dominican. We start with this like kind of melancholy news
that you have announced your
retirement. How do you feel. Does it feel final. Where is
your head right now man you look
good. I mean, I’ve had opportunities over the last
couple years to go back, but a
lot of it has been in and around my dad, which I shared on, on
social media of him retire, but
then also my mother as well, who’s a big part of my life, but
then more importantly, my
beautiful wife Katya and my boys not wanting to be away from
those twin boys and spending
time with them. So it was time to pay homage to my dad. It was
his year, one year anniversary
of passing, which was tough, tough environment to deal with,
especially over the last five
years of what he’s been handling. But he’s in a better
place. So I’m happy and we’re
happy for you. The fact that you have arrived at such a safe and
healthy place with it, what I
one of my favorite things about you and meeting you over the
years in our production meetings
is what you just spoke on. You’re such a thoughtful person,
very different than what we see
on the field sometimes in terms of your emotion. But when you
listen to you speak about the
game and specifically your relationship with your father
when you played, what do you
remember most about him? What are some of those things that
are your favorite points of your
father’s relationship with football, and how you guys
connected on the field before he
passed? I mean, I’m getting chills right now thinking back
to it, but just the big thing
that he would always do, especially before games, was,
was tell me to pray, go out
there and have fun. And it was really just one of those pieces
of like, you’re playing for our
last name, so just go make us proud as you always do. So it
was always a confidence, him
being behind me, especially my mom as well. Even though I
didn’t grow up in a household
with both my parents, they were both there at all times, no
matter what we needed as kids.
Well, I know bro that he’ll be super proud because all of your
accomplishments. KB kind of
mentioned it in the beginning of this interview. You’re a five
time Pro Bowler, three time
first team all Pro Defensive rookie player of the year, Super
Bowl champion, and that’s just
your NFL career. But of all of your accomplishments, when you
look back at it, is there one
accomplishment that you hope that people know you know you
for? From a lifetime? If I’m
understanding you, correct your question correctly from a
lifetime perspective. I mean, I
want to be more known off the field than I was on the field.
And now I’ve been I’ve had a lot
of success on the football field throughout the decades of being
in college, and especially in
the pros and the Super Bowl. But ultimately, I never wanted to be
coined as just an athlete. So
ultimately paving the way for a lot of different people and
showing them that there’s a
multi multi-dimensional and I can sit in boardrooms, I can sit
in high level meetings, be able
to help companies grow, which I’ve done over the decades even
while I was playing. So
ultimately, like I said, being more successful off the field
than I was on, you know, very
early in your career, that was obvious. That was a priority.
And I know that so many people
who follow, you know, that Ndamukong has so many different
notes to him and so many
different interests he’s in. I do think it’s interesting to go
back to the young, raw and
Domecon Suh coming out of Nebraska, you came into the
league and you were looked at as
an Avenger or a wrestling heel. For some people, even the word
villain, because of the way you
played. What’s it like for you to hear that and look back to
like 2010 and Dominican? I love
it, to be honest with you, because that means I was doing
my job. I was offensives off.
And if you like me as a defensive player, that means I
wasn’t doing my job. And I think
from everybody that mentored me, especially from a Russell,
Maryland, who I just was
exchanging messages, exchanged messages with the other day,
like paying homage to those guys
and being able to say, like continuing that blue collar
football that you guys ingrained
in us and paved the way for us. And now I want to just take it
to a different level, which I
think I did in a lot of ways, and trying to change the game
and change the game. I know
there’s always been the peace of people having biases of me being
dirty in these different things.
But ultimately, again, I don’t want you to like me if I’m if
I’m doing my job. See, I think
that’s something really important in the league. I speak
as a fan. I love that factor of
the guy who sees the line and walks it, or maybe goes over it
to that note and Dominican, when
you look back now at your career, is there anything on the
field that you regret? No,
there’s nothing I regret. And the reason why I can say that is
because ultimately, if I’m
regretting that, I’m second guessing my decision, second
guessing my job and what I
wanted to do, my focus is and ultimately it’s about being
successful in finding ways to
win. I think any teammate that I’ve had would would echo this
and that. They loved me being on
the team and us working together and finding ways to win, setting
records, whether it was in
Detroit in 2014, best run defense. We should have been the
best defense in the league, but
we set records there. And then also the same thing going to
Miami, changing that culture and
getting them to a winning perspective and then obviously
transitioning, getting to Super
Bowls, I think three of the last five years. And one of the
reasons why Philly, I was able
to join that team and we came up one game short or really one
half short to the great Mahomes.
And you just mentioned it. You touched a lot of organizations
and you impacted them the best
way that you possibly can. But it all started for you, at least
with the NFL jerseys and the
helmets. Back in 2010, at a Radio City Music Hall event
called the NFL draft. Let’s take
a look at where it all started for you. The second pick in the
2010 NFL draft, the Detroit
Lions select Ndamukong Suh, defensive tackle, Nebraska.
That’s your original Lions hype
man right there in the crowd. Thrilled to hear Sue’s name
called second overall to the
Detroit Lions back in 2010. What do you remember about that time
and that night Ndamukong it was
an interesting night and day, especially because the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers had promised me that
they were going to come up and get me at the number two spot.
They had like 12 picks and they
were going to throw them all at Detroit. But I remember Gunther
Cunningham or the late Gunther
Cunningham says, like, there’s no way I was letting you pass
through a blue chipper in my on
my mind. And they were going to take Sam Bradford at number one,
which me off, which made me go
after him as much as possible and try and ruin his career. But
ultimately, I mean, it was one
of the greatest blessings of my career, to be able to be drafted
at such a high pick and then
obviously setting an opportunity up for me and my family. But
going to Detroit in a great city
that I still love to this day, to be able to help them turn
around such a blue collar city
as well. Well, man, you’ve you’ve played a lot of ball,
obviously from the draft all the
way till now. Three Super Bowls. You played in Super Bowl 53 with
the Rams, 57 with the Eagles.
And of course you won Super Bowl 55 with the Buccaneers. Bring us
back to those Super Bowls. You
know what are the moments that you remember the most. Probably
the 212 that stick to my head
the most was the Super Bowl 53 with LA sitting losing that game
to Tom Brady. I think we had an
amazing one performance. I think our offense struggled. Obviously
one of the lowest scoring Super
Bowl games ever, and honestly, I didn’t sleep that night after
that game and I cried and I
couldn’t understand, like, what did we do wrong? What did I do
wrong? Why we couldn’t have won
that game. And so that fueled my fire to get back to the Super
Bowl. And then when I got to
Super Bowl 55, probably one of the best moments outside of
winning that game and kissing my
wife’s stomach after winning was messages from Jumpman himself
and Michael Jordan the night
before in the morning of, and then also Phil Knight and
saying, man, you’ve done our
city city proud in Portland because obviously Phil started
Nike here in Oregon and Jumpman
saying, man, go be a champion. This is why I brought you to the
brand. This is why I wanted you
to be here. And I’ve been trying to get you for years, but Nike
kept blocking me. So go get one
for the team. And that’s what I went and did and help my team
win a championship at Dominican.
You talked about Tom Brady and you’ve had 70 sacks throughout
your career. And that’s a lot of
different quarterbacks. As a defender, I know what it feels
like to have that one that you
want to get. Is there a quarterback that you’ve always
wanted to get out of those 70
sacks? Yeah Aaron Rodgers are you guys up for that one. He’s a
pleasure to hit. But I think the
probably the most prideful one was was Brett Favre I know it
was later on in his career going
against him against the Jets and also the Vikings. But Brett
Favre is a great. So being able
to be and go against him was one of the absolute pleasures. You
know Ndamukong you’ve mentioned
history a lot. And the people who came before you when you
were a little kid, there was
this great dynamic between Brett Favre and Warren Sapp where they
would get each other’s faces and
they would talk noise and they just love going at it. You
developed a routine and a
reputation for going at it with Rodgers. He would go at you,
you’d go at him. When you look
back on your career as a fan, it’s impossible not to remember
Rodgers. Reflect on those
competitions, reflect on those conversations, because a lot of
stuff happened between the two
of you. Yeah, I think my reflection of those is just pure
competition and competing to be
one of the best. I have ultimate respect for Aaron Rodgers and
what he’s been able to do as an
individual. I wish him the best, especially with him being with
the Steelers. I hope him and my
boy slay find a way to get to a Super Bowl and hopefully win it
this year from that perspective
and one being a fan, I’m looking forward to being able to go and
watch them hopefully live. I
think with my Sky sports gig and commentating, I think they’re on
my schedule, so hopefully me and
Aaron can have a conversation because I know he’s reached out
before, but we just haven’t had
that opportunity. And I think one thing I would wish for him
is to get to know me, especially
off the field versus on the field. Man, you’re always
somebody I really looked up to
throughout my career. I remember I’d had times that my mom would
text me like, you know, have you
gotten a chance to talk to Ndamukong? Like, you know, we’re
both Cameroonian guys. And I got
my I got my flag shorts here, man to represent. Now I knew
that she was coming on man I was
super excited to talk to you I was scared to talk to you.
Honest with my mom used to text
me those things. But, you know, we’re both Cameroonian. You
know, what about our culture?
Like what? What is it instilled to you? What does it mean to you
being Cameroonian? I mean, I’ll
just go back to a little bit of when I got drafted. So I’ll
never forget when I was sitting
there in that draft room and getting a wanting CNN or CNN
wanting to speak to me to relay
my interview back to the Cameroonian people. And that
was, I mean, amazing and
understanding, like how prideful my dad is. Us being considered,
especially in the in the
northwest of Cameroon, a little bit of royalty from that
perspective. Like I have a whole
country behind me and villages and all these different people
that are looking up to me. So
ultimately it’s representing that not only that flag that you
just put up, but the people
within that in my many, many siblings and family members that
are back there as well. Well,
you might have a lot of countries watching you on
Sunday, September 28th, you just
mentioned you have a gig with Sky sports. Can you just share
with people what that role is?
And what you’re implying here is that does that crew that you
work with for Sky sports, will
they be in Dublin, Ireland for the Vikings Steelers game, a
game in which Aaron Rodgers
would be at. And therefore are we going to have this on field
camera handshake with all the
cameras around? How is that going to go for you? We’ll see.
That’s the tentative plan. Right
now. We’re in conversations with my boss to potentially get over
there. Sky sports has been
great. I’ve been there for the last two years and primarily in
October, in January, and then
this most recent just did the Super Bowl for them. It’s been a
blast. Ton of fun being able to
work with Neil Reynolds. But ultimately I think there’s a lot
of exciting things to be able to
grow and be able to do that and really stay close to the game,
which I’m excited. So if Aaron
is open to and he has free, I want him to stay focused for
winning, for his team. We’ll
definitely, totally come. We got a we got a lot of time to sit
down and speak at the social
media and branding workshop out in LA. I was so happy I got a
chance to really sit down and
talk with you and some of the things that you told me, man, I
think are great for young
players in the league to hear just about your mindset and
really off the field, how you
were, whether it was getting meetings with owners, whether it
was getting to know the decision
makers in the cities or the teams that you played in, who
instilled that in your mindset
to do those things. And what would you recommend to players,
young guys who are in the
position that you were in cornerstones of a team, and how
they can start to cultivate
those relationships with people in their cities? Yeah, I mean, a
lot of people don’t know this,
but I made a lot of my decisions in free agency in and around not
only being able to win football
games, but also to learn off the football field. And one of the
reasons why I went to LA was to
be able to be close to the Kroenke family and be able to
learn from all the great things
that they’ve been doing. I mean, you look at them as an
organization, I think just
recently came out that they, with all the sports teams that
they own, they’re one of the
most successful and highest valued at this particular point
in time. Same thing with Stephen
Ross and the ability to learn from him, especially from a real
estate perspective with related
and all the different things that they’re doing. And really
just from the social aspect,
being able to have your own voice. And I think that’s one of
the reasons why I created No
Free Lunch with the New York Times and The Athletic to be
able to continue to have that
unbiased, unfiltered voice, but also to have real conversations,
talking about real strategies,
whether it’s tax, all the different things that come into
to that side of the world, but
then also providing education that I was greatly given from
Warren Buffett, who’s a close
mentor of mine, Joe Moglia, who’s a chairman, former
chairman, chairman of TD
Ameritrade, and Jay Brown with Marcy Venture Partners and a
founder of ROC Nation. Being
able to stay connected to those guys, learn from them, be at
their hips, but also be able to
share that knowledge that I’ve been able to get over the last
15 years from them. For me to be
successful, to not only be able to pass that on to other folks
and whatnot. So, I mean, that’s
that’s really my big thing of being able to leverage all the
resources and the platform that
I’ve been afforded by having a successful career in NFL. You
see it right there. NFL stands
for no free lunch. That isn’t Dominicans, pot and Dominican.
This is absolutely perfect,
insightful, thoughtful. And it’s always how you’ve carried
yourself in the media.
Congratulations on your retirement. If this is it, we’re
so glad you came by and talked
to us. You are Warren Sapp meets Warren Buffett. It’s pretty
incredible. Thank you man, I
appreciate it. Always a pleasure to talk to you. Hopefully see
you guys again soon. Absolutely.
You know it man. Well done man. And regulations. Maybe those
guys will be in suits on the
field in Dublin Ireland having a headache. Be on the pod. Get the
ring light out. So what are you
thinking? I’m thinking about our