FIRST THINGS FIRST | Justin Herbert Is A BAD Big Game QB With Los Angeles Chargers | NFL

FIRST THINGS FIRST | Justin Herbert Is A BAD Big Game QB With Los Angeles Chargers | NFL
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And I figured you want to do the hurts part and you also don’t like to be mean. And this is going to come across as a little what I’m going to um about Herbert. I mean, come on, man. He’s the same high school class as Nick Bosa. He’s the same draft class as Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, and CD Lamb. Do we consider them based like what we think of those guys is based on what they one day will be what they could be or is it no they’re on well into their second contract all pro awesome. Justin Herbert is a obviously has a bunch of measurables but he has played 81 NFL games at this point. 81. And he’s never led the league in anything anything except for last year he led the league in interception percentage unless of course you include the playoff game in which case he fell right to the middle of the pack when he threw more picks in the playoff game than he did in the regular season. You know what everybody likes just quickly caveat the first five years for him most yards ever he was something the numbers were crazy. No and it’s it’s still true like most passing yards ever through five years is him. I am not as moved by that because some of that has to be with you I I know Brady wasn’t put in huge numbers but guys like Brady Mahomes and Favre didn’t play their first year. Aaron didn’t play his first three. You know what I mean? Like so that that to me he has been durable and I think he’s very talented but when you have played in two playoff games in one de facto playoff game and these are your numbers compared to your regular season. I have a fair question over whether or not you’re not a big game guy. Okay. Okay. We’ve already done this before where I showed you Justin Herbert’s playoff stats and where I compared them to none other than Patrick Mahomes and and and against the same team and what Justin Herbert did in his first ever playoff game uh against the Jags and what Patrick Mahomes did in his first playoff game and what he did against that same Jags team and and and whatnot. And to try to put some of this stuff on Justin Herbert is just so absurd. I mean, it really, really is. And obviously, the last game weighed him down tremendously. And that game was a disaster for a lot of reasons. When you look at the amount of pressure and how bad that O line was and who he was throwing to, you know, the same thing that happened to Patrick Mahomes in the literal Super Bowl. Okay. So, it’s just it’s just it’s just absurd that you want to defend and explain why a quarterback is so bad with a bad O line or this or that and then have his O line just get completely dominated in the playoffs against the Houston Texans. And you want to talk about interceptions where some of these interceptions are literally just going through the hands of his receivers where his only weapon is a rookie slot receiver that he’s somehow supposed to just make magic out of nothing and an absolute inconsistent and downright terrible run game. And you just want to put that on Justin Herbert and has been coached by coaches who will never ever be head coaches in the NFL ever again. And yet he’s somehow supposed to try to find ways to win. And yet when he did have a great offensive coordinator in Shane Stiken, he played out of his mind. And when you want to talk about like other players and where they’re I again these are videos that I’ve already made and that’s why I’m just I’m just not going to go back and just keep doing it. But the the the team that a Patrick Mahomes got to the amount of Pro Bowls and all pros and the players that he got to play with compared to who Justin Herbert got with who was on his team. I mean like it’s it’s just it’s just not even close. It’s not even close. I mean, Justin Herbert, most passing guards in a quarterback’s first two seasons. Most passing guards in a quarterback’s first three seasons. Most passing guards in a quarterback’s first four seasons. Most passing guards in a quarterback’s first five seasons. Most completions in a quarterback’s first five seasons. Most passing touchdowns by a rookie quarterback. Most total touchdowns by a rookie quarterback. Most 300 yard passing games by a rookie quarterback. Most completions by a rookie quarterback. Most games with at least three touchdown passes by a rookie. most total touchdowns in uh in a quarterback’s first two seasons. First quarterback to record three 30 touchdown passes in each of his first two seasons. Most completions in his first 50 NFL games. Is that not good enough now? Because now it’s not saying rookie year or this. It’s just saying in their first 50 games. Okay. In their first 50 games, 1,316 most consecutive seasons of 4,000 passing yards to begin a career. Sure. But he’s not good. And that’s just using stats, man. And that’s why I I hate using just stats or, you know, all pros, pro bowl, MVP, Super Bowl performances, whatever, Super Bowl appearances as some sort of like these are the accomplishments you need in 2021 when Justin Herbert had his 5,000 passing yard season. Okay, you can see Patrick Mahomes is number one up there behind the line of scrimmage throws. You guys know I’m on this recently. Justin Herbert only threw 439 yards behind the line of scrimmage and three touchdowns. Patrick Mahomes in his 5,000 yard season led the NFL again yet again. 785 yards and eight touchdowns. Do you think that helps you out at all a little bit? in 2018 screen passes. Patrick Mahomes, six touchdowns, 653 yards. Justin Herbert, as you can see, in in 2021, Patrick Mahomes was also number one. Seven touchdowns. Again, another shocking surprise here. Uh Justin Herbert, where are you? Oh, only 21st in the NFL. 248 yards, two touchdowns. That’s weird. So weird. And yet when he actually had a great offensive coordinator and Shane Stiken, he was top three in in screen passes. Still well below that of Patrick Mahomes. Only two touchdowns, but at least getting up there, right? Moving on up or actually moving on down since that was, you know, also as a rookie. Justin Herbert number two behind the line of scrimmage that year with 637 yards as a rookie. Still only two touchdowns. Patrick Mahomes, he’s got seven. Andy Reid, man, he’s good. But still, you can see how a coordinator can actually help support your quarterback and your offense. Again, no one does it like the goat Andy Reid, but you know, still a still a thing. I mean, you want to know, okay, maybe Justin Herbert isn’t leading the NFL things, but under pressure, strictly under pressure, top six in completion percentage, really top five. Patrick Mahomes has a lower completion percentage under pressure than Mason Rudolph. and Drake May and Kyler Murray and Sam Darnold. Patrick M is 15th, 49.7, 6.3 yards per attempt. Justin Herbert’s 6.6 yards per attempt. Passer rating, everybody always loves passer rating. Who’s higher? 77.9 for Justin Herbert. Patrick Mahomes, 74.1. What about when we get a nice clean beautiful pocket? Justin Herbert 3,24 yards. Patrick Mahomes 2,933. We know a bunch of those are also coming from behind the line of scrimmage. Screen passes, but it’s okay. 19 touchdowns, seven interceptions. Justin Herbert, 18 touchdowns, zero interceptions. 8.1 yards per attempt. Patrick Mahomes 6.9. Justin Herbert ranked top three in a clean pocket according to PFF. Patrick Mahomes all the way down to 15th below Jordan Love and Jameus Winston. Yikes. So again, if you want to say that what Justin Herbert’s been doing is not impressive, well then neither is Patrick Mahomes. And if you want to say, “Oh, well, he’s won games and playoffs and this or that.” And it’s like again, this is where we just always go in circles here with like team success though then. And if you and if you want to use team success, well then Jaylen Herz is a better quarterback than Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and this past year better than Patrick Mahomes. And yet no one’s saying that. Nobody’s saying that. So that that’s why it’s like what criteria do you want to use? And I have no interest right now in having the conversation of should Herz be ahead of Herbert or Herbert ahead of Herz. It’s more just to to to attack the the the slander towards Justin Herbert. like he’s just magically supposed to overcome a poorly run franchise in in injured roster, bad head coaching, bad coordinating, you know, whatever it may be depending on the year at the time. And then you want to use misleading playoff representations. I mean, Patrick Mahomes in his first ever playoff game, 27 for 41, 278 yards, 6.8 yards per attempt, four sacks, zero touchdowns, zero interceptions, 85.2 passer rating, and they rushed for 180 yards. Justin Herbert, on the other hand, 273 yards, 6.3 yards per attempt, a touchdown, zero interceptions, three sacks, and a passer rating of 84.7. Except his team literally could not run the ball. 35 yards for Meckler. Kelly 20 yards. Justin Herbert had to throw in 12 for good measure. They literally couldn’t break 60 without Justin Herbert’s 12 yards and his team gave up 31. Patrick Mahomes 13 against a retiring, broken downbodied Andrew Luck. I mean, Justin Herbert in that first playoff game was they were eight for 17 on third down. Eight for 17. We know they weren’t rushing first downs. Only had four rushing downs in the first rushing first downs in the in the whole game four four. I mean Patrick Mahomes on third down. The Chiefs were four for 14. The Colts were 0 for nine on third down. 0 for nine. So again, Justin Herbert literally played better in his first ever playoff game than Patrick Mahomes did in his first ever playoff game. And his team was clearly worse. They couldn’t run the ball. And they were going up against a better team, a more formidable foe. And his defense, because now in 22, they played the same team, the Chiefs versus the Jags. Justin Herbert’s defense gave up 31. Patrick Mahomes’ defense only gave up 20. Justin Herbert’s offense scored 30 points. Kansas City Chiefs only scored 27 points. They were able to run the ball 144 yards. As I showed you before, the Chargers only ran the ball 67. It’s a little bit different, don’t you think? Patrick Mahomes threw a whopping 195 yards. 22 for 30, two touchdowns. I mean, literally Chad Henny got in there and led a 98 yard touchdown drive. People like, “Well, Patrick Mahomes is banged up. Patrick Mahomes is banged up, right?” I know. I love how only Patrick Mahomes is the only quarterback in the history of the world to only ever get credit for playing banged up. Like, it’s it’s he’s the only quarterback to ever do it. Like, I I I love it. Like Jaylen Harris didn’t get his knee absolutely shredded in the divisional round. And in fact, you had someone like Nick Wright say, “I don’t think he’s going to be able to play and be good in the NFC Championship game against the Commanders.” And then Jaylen Herds balls out and it’s like nothing, not even a whisper, no mention of it at all. It’s like it never happened. It’s like, “Oh, okay. So, we only talk about it when it’s when it’s when it’s uh Patrick Mahomes.” That makes sense. That totally makes sense. Got it. And then we have the audacity to pretend like Justin Herbert because he did the two playoff games and then he said and the win and your endgame against the Raiders. We have the audacity to act like Justin Herbert who was asked to throw the ball 64 times. 64 times. And threw for 383 yards. and three touchdowns. And again, they only ran the ball 85 yards. 84 without Justin Herbert’s rushing yard. 84 rushing yards. We want to blame Justin Herbert, which by the way, there was six drops in that game. Six drops. Justin Herbert would have had a 70% adjusted completion percentage, but there was six drops and he was pressured 22 times. 22 times he was pressured. You know, when everyone had a panic attack about Patrick Mahomes against Philadelphia Eagles, that was only like 17 times, 16 times. But, uh, Justin Herbert doesn’t get that benefit of the doubt. Justin actually had a legitimate passer rating and threw it for multiple touchdowns and it wasn’t relying on garbage time touchdowns while Nicks uh drenched in Gatorade. Six drops in the game. I mean that’s that’s pretty stunning. That really is. Five big time throws, three touchdowns. And again, he was asked to throw the ball over 60 times. I mean, that’s that’s pretty wild. And surprise, surprise, the Kansas City Chiefs, when they played that same Raiders team, the Raiders only scored 14 points. And then in the other game, they only scored nine points. So in two games, they scored less points than what that Chargers defense gave up. I guess that’s Justin Herbert’s fault. I mean, that win and your end game was so famously terribly mismanaged by Staley. People were stunned that he didn’t get fired the following season. They were blown away. The Chargers that game were six of seven on fourth down. The six conversion set a new single season game record since the statistic started being recorded in 1991. This record holds as of 2022. I don’t know if it’s still there. 23, 24, I don’t know. Los Angeles reached fourth and one at their own 18. On the next possession, Staley opted to go for it, but Deckler was stopped for a loss of two yards, setting up a Raiders field goal. Wow. Should I talk about the missed field goal, too? This is why stats can be so misleading. Like really, like seriously. Okay. Make it look like he can’t play big in big games or that his performance absolutely drops off. Let’s not talk about just awful, terrible coaching. Let’s not talk about uh his team failing. Let’s not talk about a line, lack of run game. Let’s not talk about any of those things because Justin Herbert is just supposed to magically overcome all of these things, especially when they’re all combined together at the same time. That makes total sense. That makes that that makes total sense. Uh, wake me up when Patrick Mahomes’s number one weapon is a rookie. and that’s it. And it has a terrible O line. Let me know when that happens because he’s had Travis Kelce every single year. Every single year. And when he entered the league, he had obviously Tyreek Hill as well. But even when he lost Tyreek Hill, still had big daddy Travis Kelce, who as Nick Ray says is the greatest playoff performer of all time. who also had huge playoff performances before Patrick Mahomes. Interesting. Interesting. It makes sense. It makes sense. This This is where graphics can be so wildly misleading. Completion percentage of 52.5. Okay. a record of 0 and three. It’s like, okay, touchdown interception ratio, it’s like, okay, yards per pass, like, okay, passer rating, okay, this is why you actually need legitimate context. This is why you actually need to watch the games. You have to actually see how they unfold. I mean, this right here makes it look like that Justin Herbert can’t handle the moment. And that’s just not true. I’m not going to go through the replays. I’ve already done that before, especially for that game uh against the Texans. I mean, I just it’s trying to convince people that Justin Herbert is actually not a good quarterback is one of the more bizarre things that I’ve observed making these videos. I didn’t I didn’t realize that was a thing. I really didn’t. There’s a lot of conversations that I was unaware of that were that were unfolding and and and what people believe in. But I guess it really does just boil down to me chiefs them not they bad me not like that’s that’s really just ultimately what it gets reduced down to. And it’s again it’s just it’s just hilarious then. I mean Justin Herbert’s not a good quarterback. Bo Nicks is not a good quarterback. Uh, you know, Derek Carr is not a good quarterback. Uh, whoever the heck the, you know, the the merrygoround of quarterbacks that the Broncos had before, uh, you know, Bo Knicks and and the coaching staff, all it’s just like all those teams are trash, bad quarterbacks, bad everything. It’s like, then stop pretending like the Kansas City Chiefs winning that division means anything. It means nothing. It literally means nothing then. You’ve just beaten terrible teams and you’ve been able to boost your record up and be able to get favorable home field advantages and buys and what you not. You’ve just been feasting on just trash, just bad bad play of coachings of of of of coaches and players and quarterbacks. And that run makes sense, I guess. just don’t call it impressive. Those are just my thoughts. I’d absolutely love to hear yours. What do you guys all think about Justin Herbert? Uh, not only being a top seven quarterback, but as well as um I guess just being a awful playoff performer. He chokes, he’s not good, he loses games. Let me know in the comments below. I read every single comment. So whether you agree with me or disagree with me, either way, let’s get in some discussions. Let’s get in some fights. But ultimately, let’s just have some fun. And please do consider subscribing. We are building an amazing community here and absolutely love to see you part of it. I want to build something that we all generally feel connected to. Something that we’re really excited to be part of. I think we’re all on our way to doing it. And please don’t forget to give this video a thumbs up as it really does help the visibility and the algorithm. Thank you so much. See you next time.