Unc & Ocho REACT to Big BEN saying Aaron Rodgers is BETTER than Pat Mahomes! STOP HATING! | Nightcap

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Ben Roethlisberger saying he’d take prime Aaron Rodgers over Patrick Mahomes. Unc and Ocho debate the hot take, questioning what Big Ben is thinking. While they respect Rodgers’ legendary career, the duo argues that Patrick Mahomes has already surpassed Rodgers with his playoff dominance, MVPs, and Super Bowl wins.

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Ben Rothersberger felt compelled to recently weigh in on whether he’d have rather have Aaron Rogers or Patrick Mahomes on his team. Well, I would take Aaron in his prime over Patrick. Now, I think Aaron Rogers prime was one of the few to ever do it. And so, Patrick is at his prime. Patrick Mahome is just entering just entering out of his prime I think. Does Ben realize does Ben realize how utterly ridiculous he sounds? Yeah. Yeah. But but obviously you know he going to go he going to go with it with someone a little contemporary. Right. Exactly. Someone a little closer to him despite the success the early success in such in the early career that Patrick Mahomes has had. Um, obviously Ben knows how great Pat is, but obviously Aaron Rogers was special despite not being able to have the number of Super Bowls only having one, but if you look at Aaron Rogers numbers in his prime, it’s unbelievable. Just unbelievable. Despite him not being able to win the win the big games consistently like Patrick Mahomes has done. So what So I I thought I thought that was the objective because people make it seem like Aaron Rogers did not have good teams. Go back and look at the receivers that he had. Go back and look at the receivers that he had and go back and look at Do you believe the last three Super Bowls Aaron Rogers could have got that that receiving group to the Super Bowl? Consider he could only get to the Super Bowl one time with Jordan Nelson, with Greg Jennings, with Donald Driver, with James Jones, with Jamaich Friendly. So, do you believe he could take that group that Patrick Mahomes took? Mhm. He couldn’t even get that man couldn’t beat Jimmy Garopppolo. But somehow he gonna get to and he gonna win a Subbo. Yeah. I mean, the MVPs are impressive. Chat, y’all know I’ve been one of the biggest, one of the loudest Aaron Rogers fans. Mhm. He’s phenomenal. He was phenomenal. But to base it on Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes in 21 postseason games is 17 and four. three Super Bowl wins. Aaron Rogers in 22 postseason games is 12 and 10 with one Super Bowl win. Yeah. And that now and look at the guys that he’s lost to. Right. Tom Brady beat him twice. Joe Burrow beat him. And now uh Jaylen Hurst beat him. Now go look at the guys that beat uh Aaron Rogers in a playoff game. The matter of fact, the man got beat by Jimmy G twice. Hey, hold on. Jimmy Jimmy G had a nice squad around him now. He had a nice squad around him. And all Jimmy G had to do, Jimmy, don’t mess it up. I tell you what, take the ball. Don’t mess it up. Don’t give Patrick Mahomes that squad the game. Give Patrick Okay. If I give Patrick Mahomes that squad, what you think? You You think Garren Rogers beating Patrick you he gonna beat Patrick Mahomes with that squad? Cuz you say Jimmy G. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You you put you put Mahomes around any teams. Listen, Mahomes is one of the few quarterbacks. You can put him on any team and it elevates everyone else around him. Yes. Elevates everyone else around him because he’s just that good. Not only physically, but he gonna beat you here, too. Yes. I mean, bro, he beat Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler got hurt and got on a stationary bike. He thought he was in a tour to France, so he didn’t want to play football no more. He just wanted to ride the stationary bike. Look, I mean, you beat who you beat to get to the Super Bowl, but I look, this has been Rothersburgger’s opinion, but I vehemently disagree with this. Yeah. Vehemently. And I think the thing is he’s basing it on MVPs. Mhm. He’s basing on MVPs and Aaron Rogers has four. Yeah. But look at those great seasons that came out to be duds. See, the thing is is that Oo, can you do if you got a great offense, can you get done? Can you score a point when you need to? If you’re a great defense, can you get a stop when you need to? Can you get off the field on third down? Can you get your offense the ball back? Can you not let them flip the field? You got them backed up. Can you make them stay there and not flip the field? Get the ball to midfield and then punt it and pin you down inside the five. Can you do that? Aaron Rogers has four regular season MVPs, one Super Bowl, a Super Bowl MVP. Patrick Mahomes has two Super Bowl has two MVPs, three Super Bowl MVPs. He’s been to five, right? And you’re saying, now let this sink in. The man has already been to more Super Bowls, has more regular has more uh postseason wins, has more post has more MVPs, and he’s not even 30. Yeah. And I I think it’s more to it than that. Obviously, we don’t know what Ben is indicating why he picked Aaron Rogers, but also I want people not to forget how special Aaron Rogers was as well. He’s This is what Ben said and how gifted he was as a quarterback. Oh, he was as physically gifted at throwing the football in general. He and Dan, I’m talking about just pure throwers of the football. Aaron Rogers, Dan Marino, take your pick. But this is what he said. Oo. Yeah. I think Aaron in his prime was one of the top few to ever do it. And so Patrick at his prime, Patrick Mahomes is just entering out of his prime. So you So in other words, he’s saying Aaron was one of the top to do it, but Patrick isn’t. Cuz now what he say? What he saying? He said I think Aaron Rogers in his prime was one of the top to ever do it. So if by his by his what his word says if Patrick Mahomes is is is coming out of his prime, he wasn’t one of the top to ever do it. Yeah. I So from 23 to 39, he goes to five Super Bowls, wins three, three MVPs, two H regular season MVPs, two 5,000 yard seasons, and a 50 touchdown season. But he ain’t one of the top who not one of the top you to ever do it. Now you Chad, do y’all see how utterly ridiculous that sounds? Now I hope we got this right. Let’s just make sure we got this right. Double check that. Well, I would take Aaron in his prime over Patrick. Now, I think Aaron Rogers in his prime was one of the top few to ever do it. And so is Patrick at his prime. Patrick Mahomes is just entering out of his prime, I think. So, he think Patrick Mahomes is out of his prime now, which I Yeah, I I I don’t I don’t know. But but obviously Ben being a quarterback that played with not with but against Aaron Rogers I think that’s where he’s picking him instead of in instead of Yeah. Because I think I think Ben came in in 04 and I think Aaron came in in ‘ 05. So you know you see that’s kind of like Right. Right right. That’s the the era. Yeah. I don’t know about that one. Yeah. P, you gone? Yeah, I I was just going to say every everyone everyone has a preference. You know, sometimes the goalpost move regardless of what the accolades and what someone has done, there’s always someone else that they like better regardless. Uh this is what Patrick Mahomes trainer had to say to Ben. Not everybody quits working out at 30. You say that for real? Yeah. Okay. That’s my first time here. That’s my first time hearing one of the trainers talk trash. I like that. I like that. I I think he I think he commented because there was a uh somebody I think in the Kansas City media talk about Patrick Mahomes and talk about his body and look like he eat pizza and stuff like that. I want my quarterback to look just like Patrick Mahomes. I want my quarterback to look with his shirt off look like Tom Brady. look like Payton Manning. I That’s what I want my quarterback to look like. No muscles because this ain’t I don’t want no muscles. Right. I don’t want no muscles. I want him to have because I want him to be able to twist. I don’t want him to you sprain straining no obliques. Right. Right. Right. I don’t want all that all that muscle the shoulder that hindering. Right. So basically you want your quarterback to look have a dad bod. That’s what I granddad if possible. Just skip over dad. Red Dead. [Music] I like it. I like it. I like it. And And like I said, look, and that’s not to take away from Aaron because like I said, Chad, y’all know me. Y’all saw me on the other show. I was And I I still think Aaron Rogers is is was phenomenal. Is he Is he what he once was? No. As we get older, as an athlete gets older, where he could elevate everybody else, now he needs help for him to elevate. Look at Tom, right? Tom, he had pl he couldn’t get he was not gonna be able to get those Patriots because now he goes to Tampa and he got Godwin and he got Mike Evans Evans and he got he get Grank to come back and he got other some other weapons and he got a solid offensive line and you see but after that Super Bowl you see Tom threw for what 5,000 yards but it didn’t have the same ump to it right it didn’t have the same like those like he throwing for 300 yards but the majority of time they were playing from behind and so the 300 yards didn’t have the same pizzazz. It didn’t have the same impact. Right. Like I said, there’s no denying Aaron Rogers um in a top quarterback. Wherever you want to place him, I don’t think you can put him in top five because he didn’t win enough championships to be top five, especially when you talking about Brady and you’re talking about uh um Manning and you’re talking about uh uh uh Joe Montana and you talk about my homeboy. Just like just that alone. Just that alone keeps him out. But I don’t know if you can keep him out of the top 10 because those four regular season MVPs only Pton Manning has more. The touchdown to interception ratio. Yeah. I don’t know how you keep him out of the top 10. Right. I don’t I’m surprised that he didn’t make the 75th anniversary team because you know they tried to they didn’t want to load up in any one particular era. They can’t say, “Well, let’s take all the guys from the modern era and then we leave guys like Johnny Unitas or or or or Graham or some of these other guys out.” So, you know, look, Joe, Payton, and Tom, those three were going. They going to be on his annivers anniversary team, right? And then they took John, they took Marino. That’s five. Off the top of my head, I can’t remember. I think Johnny, I think he was there. I think Auto Graham was there. Seven. I don’t, like I said, I don’t really remember all of them, but I think um, you know, they tried to get a mixture. They didn’t want to load up and said, “Okay, we’re just going to take the receivers from because, you know, you got to take Don Hust.” Now, you leave out, you know, Charlie Hennean, you know, you know, Jerry and Randy. For me, I thought Tio deserved to be on the 75th anniversary. I really did. Absolutely. We talking about top three top. You might not like his antics and said, “Okay, he killed a locker room.” All I know is this. That man got the third or the fourth most touchdowns ever. Well, he got the third most touchdowns for a receiver. See, and that that’s the problem that I that that’s the problem that I have is the people that have the power that call the shots that control everything on who’s allowed to be on this list or who’s allowed to be in that. That’s why that’s why I don’t I don’t like the politics that come with it. Yeah. I don’t like the politics that come with it. Why you think I dawned my own jacket? Why you think I dawned my own jacket? Because I understood how it works and I’m not going to play that game because as far as I’m concerned, I’m one. It’s It’s one thing I don’t like. And I’m let me just say this real quick. One thing I don’t like about former players that that had great careers and they know they’ve had great careers and they have their numbers. I hate I hate the the the the the almost begging in a sense to be a part of something that was created and you have to you have to pander to want to be in it. It’s like being an actor. and knowing that you have great movies, that you’ve had a great career doing movies, but you never won an Oscar. Yeah. That doesn’t take away none of the work that you’ve already done that’s set in stone. It doesn’t. Cuz you know what I look at it? I look at like Denzel. Denzel has won he won for Glory supporting role and then he won a lead role for Training Day. But if Denzel didn’t win any awards, does that make me think that Denzel isn’t a great actor? Absolutely not. Yes. Yes, because I saw him in in in Cry Freedom playing Bantto Steven Beco. I saw him playing Ruben Hurricane. I saw him in Hurricane. I saw him play Malcolm X. I saw it with my own two eyes. Yes, sir. Hold on. I’mma add to that. I saw him live in New York. Play Oll. Yes. And never forget a line. Yes. I think he was encouraging. Wasn’t he encouraged under fire? Uh with uh uh what’s the guy name? Um the guy passed away recently under I mean it is sad that he and his wife was dead for year. Jean Hackman. Jean. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Jean. Jean. Wasn’t that Courage Under Fry? I saw him in the Pelican Brief. Yeah. I saw I saw him in in and uh uh um inside man. I saw him. So even even if he didn’t win of award an award, I’ve seen enough of him to know what greatness is. Yeah, absolutely. And and I just don’t like the need for validation because they put hall of fame. Well, if you’re not a part of this, then what you’ve done is not valid when that’s just not the case for so many. It’s okay. It’s okay to have a great understanding to be an actor, to be a football player, you know, or or or to be an artist, to be a musician, you know, sometimes as great as you are, they don’t see you as that. And it’s okay. It doesn’t take away the fact. Yeah. He was on the body of work that you put in. He was in Courage Under Fire. What was that movie with he was it with Jean Hackman about the submarine? Crimson Tide. Crimson Tide. Crimson Tide. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he played that role. Hey, he played that. Listen, he played it. Denzel. Denzel has unbelievable range. Unbelievable. Crimson Tide, I think, was uh Crimson Tide with Jean Hag when Courage under fire. I think it was Mag Ryan. He was in another movie with uh and Dakota Fanning where uh proof of what was it? Proof of life. Was he in a movie called Proof of Life? I I don’t I don’t know that one. saw him in all the equalizers. I saw him in Devil in Blue Dress. Mhm. Harlem Blues when he was bleak. He was playing the trumpet. Man on fire. That’s what it was. You remember that? Oo. Yes. Wita. Man on fire. Wait. Wait. Mark Anthony. Any any more wishes? I wish you had more time. Yeah. Ah, it’s classic. [Music]