Summary

In this episode of the Golf Lovers United Podcast, Pro Golf Critic discusses with Golf Lover UK his recent personal experience with competitive golf, including qualifying challenges and mental strategies for improvement.

They delve into the dynamics of @LIVGolf and the recent LIV Golf Dallas event, won by Patrick Reed of @4AcesGC (Individual title) and Crushers GC (Team title). They address individual player performances (good & bad), relegation/scheduling issues, and the importance of maintaining competitive standards.

The conversation also touches on scheduling conflicts that affect players, particularly in relation to major tournaments like the Open Championship. They emphasize the need for team competitiveness and performance analysis while expressing their love for the sport of golf, LIV Golf as a league and their desire for the league to improve in the coming year.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and PGC’s Qualifying Experience
06:37 Competitive Golf Insights and Strategies
11:37 Discussion on LIV Golf and Player Performances
20:24 Relegation and Team Dynamics in LIV Golf
31:16 Future of LIV Golf and Market Potential
35:41 Open Championship Qualifying
43:48 European Tour Collaboration and Future Prospects
46:32 Team Competitiveness in LIV Golf
52:53 Open Championship Qualifying Innovations
55:09 Course Rankings and Legacy in Golf

Open Championship Qualifying Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtsSuD9h8t4

LIV Golf Dallas Final Round Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO_GEZjt_g4

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to the Golf Lovers United podcast. I am Ben, Golf Love UK, joined as always by my co-host, partner in crime, and good friend, Progolf Critic. And how are you, Pro Golf Critic? It didn’t go well the other day in qualifying at the start, but talk us through it. Tell it what were you trying to qualify for before we get into pro golf. Let’s do some good amateur golf. Yeah, I was gonna kind of save this to the end just didn’t want to lead didn’t want to lead into it, but uh yeah,
they’ll just skip by this. They’ll just skip by it.
Yeah, let’s hope so because everybody knows that that I kind of hate talking about my own golf game. Like I I just think I’ve talked to You’re that one guy. You’re that one guy that hates talking about their golf. Yeah. Just I I just I would rather talk about, you know, people that that are better than me. Like that that’s kind of my my focus. But uh so um a lot of people know I kind of made a big stink about this, you know, two years ago. Um I’ve had this little tetat with the USGA where um I was originally scheduled to try to local qualify for the US Open two years ago. Um, and with all of the cont controversy and just um everything going on in the pro golf world at at the time, um, I just I I didn’t want my funds to contribute to the USJ anymore. I just didn’t. So, I’ve I’ve been kind of having this little little protest that like there there’s been little steps along the way to sort of get me to where I am now. So, I decided earlier in the year that I was going to do a couple different USGA events this this year. So, I’m uh I just did US amateur qualifying and that that was a really interesting uh it was really interesting. So, um it was at one of my favorite courses, Pa Tempo. Everybody knows how much I love Posito. That was part of the reason why why I played it. Um but it’s a very difficult course. Like if if you’re not sharp and you’re sort of missing greens and missing fairways, like it’s going to be a long day. So, um I played pretty bad the first nine nine holes, but uh one positive was um actually played with um a fellow Liv fan. Shout out Mason U who was keeping my score. He’s got a he’s got a really interesting story. He he was a fairly accomplished junior player. Quit golf when he was, you know, 13 14 years old. Recently came back the last, you know, 3 four years. and is really one of the reasons why he came back was because of Liv actually, which is people are going to think that that’s that’s not true, but it’s 100% true. So, uh, that sort of inspired him to sort of get get back into the game because of the whole team aspect and like that that really really appealed to him. And so we were talking about Liv the entire time. Like he he recognized me which was really that that still throws me off a little bit when I get recognized for, you know, the the the things that I do on online. But um uh it’s it’s something I’m going to have to get get used to because it’s it’s only going to be more people that sort of know know who I am over over the years uh rather than less. So yeah, started out pretty poorly except I kind of got to a point in the round where um I was so so I was nine over after 11. Um and which is really bad bad for me. I was just just not in the right right head space like I was not playing well. And then
so I played I’ve played 36 holes with you and I think you’re three over for 36 to give listeners a guide to how bad 9 over through 11 is.
Yeah. Yeah. It was except like I tell people competitive golf is like a whole another animal. Like it’s it’s it’s not like recreational golf at all. So, you know, you you really h have to lock in and uh so I got up to the hardest hole on the course, which is this really long par three plays about about 235. There’s just trouble everywhere around the screen. It’s like one of the toughest par threes in the world. And I’m like, I mean, you you really got to sack sack up here and get a good good shot because I mean, your score is going to be really bad. But, um, I was also in the back of my mind, I’m like, look, you need to forget about score now. Like, you just need need to focus on hitting good golf shots and like no excuses from here here to the house. Like, your goal is for the next, you know, seven holes, um, you should be underpar. So, um, so I guess it was par three that has eaten my lunch over over the years. I’ve seen really really good players make six, sevens, eights on this hole. Um, and I just hit like the most beautiful utility wood straight into the middle of the green had at about 15 ft and my playing competitor was like, “That’s got to be the the closest shot of the day.” Uh, because it’s that hard of a hole. So, didn’t convert and make make the little birdie, but when you make a par hole, um it really really just just sort of helps to uh uh get your momentum. It really feels like like a birdie because the scoring average was like over it was over four for a par three. So, um yeah, crazy. So, went even par the rest of the round. Uh w finishing 57th out of about 90 players, which you know is not bad. Um it could have been worse. Could have been a lot a lot better. There’s a lot of things that I have to clean up and it just it sort of lets me know that I need to play more golf. Like there’s only so much you could do on the driving range and being on the driving range does not really help you when you have a a 175 yard shot off of a downhill slope. Um or like you get plugged in a bunker. Like I got plugged in two bunkers uh during the qualifying and and honestly like it would have been very easy for me to make huge numbers cuz they were very difficult positions. My caddy went up to the ball. I was like, “Oh my god, this is terrible.” One of them actually wind up making par. The other one I w up make bogey which was a great bogey. And uh those are like the little things that that give you positive momentum when you feel like you should be making a big number, but you actually wind up scrging out a par even even a bogey and not making a big number. Like I did not make any big numbers. That was one of my goals. Like I I didn’t want any doubles or worse and and I didn’t have have any. So there there’s a lot lot of positives for me to s sort of take from this. I’ve I’ve got a lot of other tournaments kind of throughout the year and this one really sort of got the juices flowing and got got me encouraged that I need to start playing more competitively because I know I have that gene in me to sort of kick into high gear when it when I need to. It’s just that I I need to be able to bring that that out a little bit bit more. So, it was a lot of fun.
It was interesting. something used to that. One of my good mates, Paul, who listened to this podcast and Paul, you know, I love you. One of my best friends. And he was one of the guys who really was instrumental in me taking golf more seriously. And I remember we’re playing and I had a bad start and the round’s gone. I’m not I’m not going to shoot 10, 12, 13 over, I’m I’m unless I go Eagles and Birdie Fest and get no no no no no nothing no big numbers on the card, it’s just not happening. And he said sometimes he said you just need to go I’m going to play this now in three holes. I’ll play the next three holes. Can I be one over for the next three? One over the next three. One over the next three. And just break it down that. Ignore ignore the [ __ ] six that have gone before. And you’re you’re you’re 10 over through six. Couple of doubles, a bogey, a par, and a treble. Ignore that. It’s gone. And the round’s probably gone. You’re probably now not gonna have a good round as in score, but let’s put those six away. And can you play the next three and one over? the next through and one over. He must have said that to me maybe five, six years ago. And I think I think it’s really good advice for anyone out there that that has those rounds that go wild. Like if the score’s gone, the score’s gone. But then you can actually make a game within that game and and and you can go, okay, well for the last 12, actually the last 12 I was five over and do you know that’s really good.
Well, well done me. Yeah. No, it’s so cliche, but there really is there’s this, you know, saying, one shot at a time. Like, there’s a reason why all these pro golfers say that. Like, it’s so true. Like, you you can’t really be thinking about the bad hole that you had a couple holes prior or like the bad front nine that you just just had. like you really need to lock in on sort of what the task at hand is because if you’re still thinking about your front nine and you’re playing a very difficult hole where you you can make a a huge number like you’re probably going to make a huge number if you’re if you’re still thinking in the in the past like you have to be present. You have to to focus on every shot. Um, and then when when you start focusing on that and you start hitting good shots, it really is contagious because the rest of the round like, you know, I didn’t have a good warm-up. Like I my driver the last few weeks has been just like totally off off the map. Uh, so I kind of had had to play like a little fairway finder that it’s probably going about 25 yards shorter than than what um it it usually goes for me, but it was like I just need to find fairways and just like uh try to scrge out a good number. know a lot of positives to sort of bring from that sort of the back half of it. And I don’t know if it’s a coincidence, but you know, after the turn, like I sweat out my my hat so crazy. Like I my hat was totally
You are You are You are a sweaty guy.
Oh my god. That’s why I don’t live in Florida anymore. But um even when it’s like 55 degrees and like humid, I’m going to sweat. So I threw my other hat off. I remember I had a spare four aces hat in my bag. I put the four aces hat on and coincidentally I went even part of the wrestling round. So I will be wearing four a four a aces hat for the rest of my tournaments the rest of the rest of the year. We’ll see if it make makes a difference. So my my hat issue and any anyone who’s played in me in wind knows I have to pass in my hat if the wind’s blowing into me because my head is long. There’s no hats that really fit me that well. So when the when the wind starts blowing, it just lifts off. Like it’s it’s horrific. Like and I know that happens to other people, but but I I don’t need a lot of breeze for my thin long head for the hat to fly off. So yeah,
we might have to invest in a couple bucket hats. Like I am very convinced that like I’m going to try wearing a bucket hat because I sweat I I have to wear wear a hat.
Not going to wear these baseball style hats.
I’d ra I’d rather die. I start sweating so much that like the the sweat starts to drip from the bill on my cap
and I’m like, well, if I don’t if I have a bucket hat, like it’s not going to drip. So, I got to look into that. I don’t think there’s any aces bucket haters. I’m not going to play with you if you wear one. I gone to I gone to I gone to live shop now and have a look. I’ll have a look underwear for you. You have to get taking you have to take a new mortgage to to buy one. Right. Anyway, what was I going to say? Um, so this is great. This is great for the podcast listeners. So those are the podcast. He’s now left the screen. He’s left his mic and he’s gone to find something. Yeah, I did finally get my Bryson Crushers Masters themed hat. So shout out to the Crushers. Uh, this is a great hat. all their new era hats that that they have um in the liv shop are just like top-notch hats. They don’t
there. There’s a cr there’s a crushers there’s a crushers bucket. There’s a live bucket. There’s an iron heads bucket. Um there’s a stinger bucket.
Not wearing the iron hats with the stinger, but um crushers might might be
there’s there’s a highf flyers bucket. Yeah, that’s what we got.
Highf flyers. Okay.
Yeah, high five flyers are always reaching out to me asking if I want any merch. So I have to look looking it up. The answer is yes. We love we love right let’s let’s get on to the live golf event in Dallas. Um I also want to talk about um Putter and his performance in the PJ tour. Like the kids the kids a beast hits the ball miles. Interest Let’s do Let’s do him in that event first.
Okay.
I don’t want to get into the politics.
The Rocket Classic for everybody that doesn’t know PJ tour. It’s in Michigan. It’s outside to Detroit. It’s uh it’s a very sort of old school old school design that honestly it’s courses like that that have kind of time has sort of passed them by a little bit because they don’t really hold hold up to the modern game. Um so it’s part of the reason why why you see scores that are so crazy low like like we just had. Yeah. Well, let’s um you talk about scores that are crazy low. Have you seen Doug Gim’s mind is Doug Gim is currently nine under through 16 at um at TPC deer for John Deere
John Deere? Yeah, it’s not a surprise. John Deere like
they’ve yielded so many 59s over over the years like it’s it’s one of the easiest courses on on tour and every everybody knows it.
It must it must be over easy. Max Home is seven under.
If you’re looking to build confidence, you play the John Deere because you’re going to make a ton of you’re going to make a ton of birdies. There’s not a ton of bogeies or like big big numbers out there. It’s part of the reason why I don’t really I’ve never really liked that that particular event because it just just doesn’t really appeal to me. So yeah.
So look Posu played really well. Um he hits the ball miles. What’s interesting actually pots it is he’s one of these big hitters that doesn’t use a ridiculous setup driver. Got got stiff shaft and a nine degree a nine degree head. So that that’s interesting. A lot of the big guys have these different weird shafts and weird heads and whatever else. So, the reason I mention Rory’s kind of the same.
Rory’s kind of the same because they’re looking for that high launch. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.
Rory isn’t the same because he won’t tell you what driver he’s using and he loses his temper and gets all upset. But it’s very easy to find out what
you don’t know what you don’t know what he’s using. You just can’t possibly know what he’s using.
Anyway, right. we we can go to go to the range and like uh see exact exactly what he’s playing. That’s that’s what he told the reporter in the press conference.
Yeah. So, let’s talk very quickly about Lift Golf Dallas. Look, I was a big proponent, as you know, of bringing in um a new player to the Stinger. Brandon Grace didn’t have a great season. He got relegated. I like Brandon Grace. I like the Stingers. I understand the team bond. I understand all that, but relegation should have meant relegation and it didn’t.
He did play well in the qualifying event.
Yeah, everybody.
He did play well in the qualifying event, but he didn’t qualify and still got brought back. I think I mentioned it twice in this podcast that Potera or Lamperect should have come over to join the Stingers. And who know who who knows what happens with player movement, but it does feel to me that there’s been a a miss there with with a with a positive young South African laddy who could have come across and being on the stingers. Could they get him still? Of course they could. Who who knows who knows what will happen.
But I I think up though,
yeah, the price gone up and the league would be a better place for having him now. Yes. No, I I think so. I’ve I talked to a few people about the South African um I don’t really want to call them kids, but younger players under 25 that that have a lot of potential. Um I have been more of a Cristo Lampre guy. Like he he’s been my guy. I think that he unique in in terms of like he’s really totally hits it a long a long way. He’s really well spoken. Like I think that he would be a great ambassador for Stinger. Uldress Pocket like I think that he is similar in terms of he obviously hits it a long way. He has a very unique profile silhouette for for golf. It’s a it’s a profile that I identify with very very very much as being a a little bit more of a a burly guy. Um so and he hits it a long way. Like that’s his identity. like he has a lot of other skills that that he’s he’s still refining. like I think even he would say that his short game and his putting is not necessarily great um inside of 100 yards except on that particular course he didn’t really need to like he didn’t really need those skills because he was getting up really close to the greens on the par fours like I mean there’s a lot of par fours out at the Rocket Classic that are like 400 yards and you’re carrying it 330 340 350 like you’re going to be up by the green and you can you can bank birdies even if your short game’s not that great. You’re like, you’re going to you’re going to fall in the birdies between that and and all the par fives that that they have out there as well. So, I think it’s going to be interesting to see where Stinger goes in the offseason. Like
Brendan Grace, he is currently in the relegation zone last I checked. Um
yeah, he is interestingly he has scored points in the last two events. Um
so he he has actually got points in the last two events, but
he was like tied 23rd in Dallas and then tied 19. Yeah, he’s still he’s still in the drop zone. He’s he’s 49. He’s 49, but yeah, like I think we we we’ve said this now that there needs to be some strength in your teams. I understand the mates bond. I understand this, that, and the other. Um I I like Matt Jones. I love the fact he plays quickly. I think he’s a great guy. Spent a little bit of time with him. Spoke to him a few times. But Matt’s Matt’s maybe not performing enough well enough for the Ripper to contend. You look at Matt of 48th. You look at Matt’s 48th and the next lowest player is Cam Smith at 26th.
Yeah, it’s it’s it’s it’s quite a drop off between there. Um, and it this this isn’t a show of just ripping people because I I want to talk a lot about not a lot but enough about Patrick Reed in a moment and and Patrick.
Yeah. But I I do I do think that if you are if you are in that drop zone, you’ve got to expect that that drop zone, you got to expect you can’t be coming back. Like Freddy K
Freddy K’s not got a point all year. Like Anthony Kim’s not got a point, but he’s actually scared the points last week with the tied 25th to get
so close one shot away from getting his first point.
Freddy hasn’t hasn’t done that. Um, you look you look at Mito Pereira like he’s he’s got 0.6 points for for a tied 20th in the third event since then. Since then he’s had literally had since the So he’s had one he’s had one tied 20th, one tied 29th and everything else has been worse than tied 49th. Like we’re talking we’re talking right at the bottom for me. He’s out. He’s got to go Andy Ogal Tree. A lot of people talk about Andy and obviously had injury issues and he’s come back and and this that and the other, but Andy’s like he’s had one top 20 finish, one So he’s had two top 20 finishes and then everything else has been like tied 31st, tied 47th, tied 40th, tied 49th. Like it’s there’s some players there. Yuben, the only other surprise to me was Euben Jang. I thought Euben was going to be really good.
I thought he’d be better. I thought he’d be a lot lot better. But it just kind of goes to show you that that like it does take a little bit of time for a lot of these guys to adjust to to life on live. Like it’s it is a little it’s a different format. It’s something that like a lot of these guys have before.
If you want to be cruel, if you want to be cruel on this and I’m not interested in being cruel, but just being honest for Freddy obviously he didn’t play this week. Max Rott um stepped in for him. Max finished tied 37th. obviously doesn’t score points, but Max is tied 37th
better
is higher than all but all but one of Freddy’s finishes.
Yeah. Yeah.
And it um
we’re we’re at a stage now um where things have got to change. Things have got to move. We got the relegation has to mean relegation. you know that I’ve had a couple of conversations with live execs and and ask my opinion on X Y and Zed and I had an hour and 40 minutes with one of the most senior execs that live um and and I said look there’s three things like I said if you want people taking you seriously relegation’s got me in relegation I understand Matt Jones who obviously isn’t being relegated I understand Matt Jones is closed I understand Brendan Grace is close I understand that but these play you can’t have a it is not a it is not a bonafidey team competition ition if you’re allowing players who aren’t performing to be there because they’re friends. And you can talk about locker room dynamics, but it comes to locker room dynamics is different in a 53man NFL squad or a 26-man Premier League team or a cricketer that’s half decent batsman, half decent bowler, good fielder, but good but keeps everyone going like you. It’s different in golf when you got four BS and four scores counting to being a good team guy just doesn’t cut it. And I I’m not I’m not trying to get at people. Oh, of course you are, Ben. You’re just being a moaner. I’m not trying to moan. I’m just trying to say we if we want live to be taken seriously. Relegation’s got to mean relegation to the point that while I would love to see the league go to 15 teams, I’ll happily see it stay at 12 if we get rid of seven or eight players who aren’t performing and bring in seven or eight others. Let who know? But it’s getting that quality up across the board has to happen. 13 teams. Um obviously gonna Yeah. No, it’s fine. Um
yeah, I think this is where you sort of get into the issue with um I think we’re getting to the point pretty soon where we need to start to sell these these these teams and and get people in there that have a little bit more of a vest vested interest. like everybody knows that um all these teams have there are currently 75% owned by LiveGolf and um I think once you start getting new ownership groups in there that are owning these teams that are hyper hyper competitive they’re going to be the ones that like it doesn’t really matter at that that point what the players want for their team. It’s all all about what’s the most important thing that that’s going to improve these teams. And like if some of these guys aren’t playing well and like it’s very very clear that they’re not. Um and like someone like like Andy Ogleree like I get that he um he likes being on the high high flyers. Like I think the high high flyers really like like him being there but like he’s he’s not playing well this year. And Brendan Brendan Steel’s not playing well. Like I I like Brendan but Brendan Brendan’s got 4.3 points and he he’s 47th. Like you you take you leave Phil in the highf flyers and bring in two people to replace Brendan and Andy and all of a sudden you got to you got to tral he’s a 32nd. He’s not shooting. You got players like highf flyers that that have got two legitimate spaces to bring in two really good players. Well Brendan still did win win win a tournament last last year. So I think he’s he’s kind of exempted a little bit. However, I think I’m I’m very
I’m very if you win an event, just like on the PJ tour, just like every other tour, you win an event, you you get a two-year exemption on that tour. I’m totally fine with that.
Even if you’re last in the in the standings the next year after winning, like you should still be exempted to the neck next year. I’m totally fine with that.
Are you including that in the drop zone? Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So thing thing is that thing is that the PJ tour where where I feel that’s a a false comparison is the PJ tour doesn’t have a a team event element to it. So what so what you’re saying here is that Brendan Steel won last year. Brilliant. He’s got 4.3 points this year. He’s not he’s contributed the team score positively as in I I know how the scoring works. So this is again a false equivalence. But I look at anyone in the top 24s are proper properly contributing. He’s been in the top 24 once, twice. He’s been twice in the top 24. And like, so, okay, I’m a So, you’ve got a young highf flyers fan who loves highf flyers, wants them to do really well. Age doesn’t matter. He could be an old highf flyers fan. And you’re telling me they’ve got to have a guy who’s on their team stinking it up because he did well two years ago.
Yeah. You got to wait like the
if you going to be taken more
if Liv is going to be taken more seriously. Just like with all the other tours, you’re going to have exemption categories. You’re going to have ways to sort of qualify in like if if you’re going to be picked up by a team, you need to meet certain eligibility criteria. Like I’ve been talking about this for like three years. like this is something that’s been very obvious to me and something that they they need to sort of go into like when when you start looking at the players live picked up. Some of them would would would certainly meet that criteria but like others like like Freddy Katcher probably they wouldn’t meet meet that like minimum standard and I think that there there needs to be some level of minimum standard that that like says oh um Aldridge Pocker like you just won on the PJ tour. I’m sure he’s in the top hundred in the world. He would would be from that list of players that you could pick from to bring over to Liv. Um except if if you’re you know Andy Ogalry that that gets relegated from Liv potentially this this year he’s like a thousand he’s his world world rank is currently um 1,062 and part of the reason it is because he he hasn’t played in almost any events outside of Liv and and we have been on this block for a while. The reason why some of the guys that played well in the majors from Liv played well in the majors and have been playing well on live is because they played themselves into playing well. They’ve been playing outside of live. They’ve been playing a European tour. They’ve been playing an Asian tour. Like this is an important thing. And a lot of these guys, Brendan Still’s not playing at all outside of Liv. And that to me is a problem. Like a lot of these guys need to play more. And I get that. like a lot of these guys get comfortable being on live because it’s it’s guaranteed money and all that that stuff that the Grump Golf Beater loves to sort of lean into and is all the excuses why they feel like Liv isn’t a a legitimate league. But it’s like a lot of these guys like need to realize that that sentiment is out there and they need to be trying even extra hard to uh play themselves into form just like I hate to compare me but like there’s a reason why I struggled in this qualifying because I haven’t played in any real competitive golf for like eight for like 18 months. Like I need to play myself into being in competitive mode. A lot of these other guys need to play more. Terrell Hatton showing it. Um, a lot of guys like Carlos Ortiz has played a lot out outside of Liv and he’s he’s one on the the Agent. Patrick Reed that we’re going to talk about.
What your he won the Hong Kong say but what you’re saying to me makes me feel even less like these guys deserve it. Like if Brendan Steel isn’t playing well and then isn’t going playing elsewhere, he deserves his play. I don’t mean to pull on Brendan Steel, but you could say you could say the same for Matt Jones, Brandon Grace, Andy Ogle Tree, Meto Pereira, Jang like other places.
Winning on live should be seen as this really aspirational thing that unlocks other things for you just like it does on the PJ tour. That’s why the PJ tour puts so much emphasis on who wins their events. I’d like to see Liv do the same. Like if you win an event and maybe it doesn’t count for like 2024 prior because like the league was just getting off the ground and maybe it’s a go forward thing like if you won this year or going forward because the standard of the league is higher now than it was two years ago. Now, you could say, “Okay, if you won this year going forward, you get that two-year exemption.” That’s another way you could potentially do it. Like Adrien Moranc, like Adrien Moranc won in Riad the beginning of the year. Like, he should be, it doesn’t matter how he he plays the next the rest of this year or next year, he should be guaranteed those two years. Um, and he will because he’s he’s a very high high level player. Um, and I think any other players that win these events because now they’re playing on tougher courses like they’re setting it up tougher. Merida was an amazing test. Like that was something where single digits under par one six under one like the final round scoring average in Merida was like similar to to the final round scoring average at Oakmont. So I mean we’re talking very very high level test. If you win that,
that is like an amazing accomplishment and something that you need to sort of that that should be part of the reward that goes along with winning a live event. We’re not we’re not going to agree because for me the team element means why should a team have to be dragged down with a dead weight just cuz they won an event two years ago like
cuz that guy contributed to your team last year big time.
No, not last year. No, not last year. The year that’s No, this isn’t last year. a year before that. So like under your under your rules, Brendan Steel will be there next year and Brendan could stink it up again. And like you’re like, “Okay, you won an event two years ago, mate. Like why should
then he should be gone after that? He should be gone. If if he has if he has two consecutive years like this,
then you can get him out. Uh because again,
I just don’t think you can drag a team down. Like it’s a team. If you want if you look if you want to take the team event seriously, you have to have the best players playing for you, not some guy who grandfathered in because he won two years ago. That’s that’s my point. If you want to look because you you cannot take a team event seriously if you’ve got some bloke on the tour who is playing he’s played terribly for 14 events this year. He’s played terribly for 13 events next year and you and he’s like he won it two years ago. It’s it’s not fair on the team. That’s Bren. That’s Brennan Grace this year. Like he he he won and and then he stunk it up for two years and now he should be out
and should be relegated. Should have been relegated last year cuz he was relegated.
I think the only the only thing you you and I dis disagree on is the timetable. Like you’re basically saying like I I think under your criteria if you want an event you’re obviously going to be back the next year. So your exemption is one year.
Me I’m more about extending out to make make it two years. So, I mean, it’s we’re really sort of arguing. We’re sort of sort of splitting hairs at this point, but um I just think that obviously relegation need needs to be a real thing. Except there there should be exemption categories, too. Like if you won if you won six majors like you know that that that should be another another one except when Phil brings in new leadership and new ownership to the highf flyers like he needs to have somebody that’s going to tell him kind of like hey maybe now’s the time for us to talk talk through a transition plan. Um let’s let’s let’s prove something let’s prove something we can agree on. Um, Kazuma is a hell of a player.
Oh, for sure. For sure.
And if he hadn’t been playing great,
he’s 29th and he missed the first five events of the season. If you take his total points, divide it by four and then times it by nine. Let’s say he had the same point scoring ratio. He would be third. Sorry, he’d be fourth. He’d be fourth. I Who knows what happened in the first five events? I’m just doing a little bit of fun maths. But my point being is that he’s playing that he’s playing that well. He’d be in he’d be in fourth place. And I think Asia is here comes understanding the world. Asia is massive. Um Asia is massive. It’s got a sport loving population.
It’s got so many people that want to be involved in sport, want love a sport. You ever go to a Grand Prix and see how many Asian people are there loving it and with decked out in team gear? The Iron Heads if they can get I think Kevin Nar is a great guy. He should still be captain. Is he performing brilliantly? No. Is he performing badly enough to be dropped? Probably. If he wasn’t captain if he wasn’t captain, he probably would be. But you got Danny Lee and Kevin Na next to each other in in in the in the league tables. So
yeah, it’s not good. Can’t have two two guys down below
or three actually. they have and then and obviously Yuben Jang is deep in the drop zone. So the iron heads for me are a real sleeping giant on in their in their in their intentions and that their possibilities of what their market could be. I just think that having a young stud in Yuben Jang um that didn’t perform isn’t ideal and then because if you got imagine you got even if Yuben Jang was like 30th 29th 28th and you’ve got you got two youngsters in Yuben Jang and Kazuma that’s something really to market and get behind. So there are I think what we’re saying here really in short is there are lots of teams here that need to pull stuff together and sort out what’s going on. And I it’s not about being critical for everyone. I I no I I think this is
you’re you’re making a really really important point that I think we need to lean lean into. Our criticism is not this is where this is there’s this like art form to to crit criticism that I will beat people over the head with. Like we care about the success of Live Golf and these these teams. I don’t think anybody can even debate that. Our criticism comes from a a place of love and wanting the league to uplevel and improve because it’s important to us because we invest so much energy and time and like like I’m investing two weeks out of my life to come to the UK UK particularly for this Live Golf UK event at JCB. Like we are invested in the success of Live Golf. We are gonna push for Live Golf to be better. And that’s that criticism isn’t us hating. It’s not us being negative. It’s us wanting the league to improve. As much as we love it, we love it to the point where we we want it to be better and we need it to be better. And on top of that, we are the podcast listeners. I’m looking in the sky trying to find my words. I’m I I that’s that’s 95% of it. There’s 5% of it for me, which is don’t give the lived detractors free weapons. Don’t give them free ammun. No, no, no. I No, I know what you’re saying. They’re going to they’re going to poke holes in anything Liv does.
But but let let but let them poke holes. Let them poke holes in stuff they want to poke holes in. Don’t open a hole for them to poke. Don’t bring back relegated players. Don’t bring back this. Don’t Don’t have weakened teams. Like just don’t don’t do it. Like it’s just so easy. Like I I love Liv. We know that. I cannot understand and will never understand how Liv scheduled Dallas to be two days before the um Open Championship playoff qualifying.
Yeah, I understand. I understand. Diaries of diaries. I understand that. But it’s just nonsensical. Like with a with a 52- week calendar, pull forward everything one week. Pull forward Saudi one week. Pull forward that. Get it so you can fill it in. Push it back one week. Whatever it is, you’ve got 52 weeks the year to play with. They do it in like a 24-week period as we know, 25e period. You’ve got time to space out. We had a 3-we gap. That 3-we gap we’ve already had for that mid-season break. I know we got the masters around there and other things, but you don’t have qualifying for the masters. Like, so you you don’t need to do some of the things they’ve done. And like the fact that look, Herb Herbs qualified really made up for Herbs and PewDie Dog. Absely over the moon. Um I hope we get PewDie Dog on the podcast soon. I want to talk about um Herbs like warming up on the beach in Seven Irons in the Sand. I want to talk about that. That sounds quite good fun. Uh but you had Herbs qualifying, you had Westy qualifying and um blank qualifying. Great. We also had five or six of the live players there. Seven other live players there that that were eight live players. My brain can’t even do maths were there and they were obviously tired. They were obviously this and there going, “Oh, well, Liv should have let them off.” No, Liv shouldn’t let them off.
No.
And not play. But what Liv should have done is moved it. Also like I I I will always defend Liv’s right to have their players where they are. But Blandy not being able to go and compete in the US Senior Open for me wasn’t a great thing. I’d like him to gone to defend his title. Like so you know you know the calendar dates of what people are going to do. Let’s let’s not make a let’s not give free ammunition to the morons that want to slate live for everything. let because that way if there are if they’re slating and picking holes in nonsense you can ignore that but don’t don’t give them two three easy things to pick a hole in. If you’re going to relegate someone relegate them if you want your players to qualify for the open don’t put a tournament or or if you want to have a tournament the week if you want to have a tournament the weekend before don’t have the tournament
that’s when JCB needs to be
an 11-hour flight.
Yeah. If you have JCB, if you switch out JCB in Dallas,
Yeah.
like it works out perfectly because but they’ve done they’ve done the schedule for 2026 and it looks to me like they’ve done exactly the same again.
Yeah, I know. I know. I’m just I’m just some fat gold fat bald guy based in Bristol and my brain goes, well, maybe have a look at the calendar. No, I I think there there needs to be something. I think how can I say this? Uh, part of the,
by the way, I love the guys that say, “All we do is talk positive about Liv.” We love Liv, but listen to this podcast today.
Those people I’ve told you a million times, those clowns need to be totally ignored because they don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. They don’t listen to this podcast. They don’t
they pick out one out of 100 tweets and try to try to say, “Oh, you you guys are never never critical about anything.” They don’t know a GD thing, so just just forget about that. Um, to me, I think that there’s this thing um in live live golf that that I’ve noticed, which I totally understand. Um, I think that the players that are the headlining players, they’re the ones that are most responsible for making this for contributing to making this the schedule. They also have this uh sort of competition committee that that they have that is responsible for, you know, setting up golf courses, making them making them harder. I think one of the challenges Liv has is that they obviously have these superstar players that like the league is basically crafting their schedule around what those players want. Players like Brooks and Cam and Bryson and Phil and those guys that are already qualified for the majors. So there’s less importance placed on a lot of these guys that ha that have to go through qualifying that have to fly uh 10 11 hours to get to these qualifiers on no sleep like Lee Westwood. I am It’s one of the more impressive things I’ve ever seen for Lee Westwood at 52 years old to fly across the Atlantic on no sleep. He said he had an hour and a half of sleep before having to play 36 holes to to qualify uh at done Donald Blinks. Like I mean he that’s one of the more impressive things that I’ve seen like he played so well uh to be medalists there and qualify for the open because he wanted it that bad. I don’t think these guys should be put um in that situation. And this it goes to the point that we’ve been saying for a long time. They need more they need more spots into these majors.
But they they they’ve done it in such a weird way though, mate, cuz look look at the new schedule. They they’ve got they got some new events in some new places. Dallas has gone, but they’ve now moved they now moved Spain. So rather having European like they oh god it drives me mad. Rather having a European leg and people being here for the open. So play Valderama, play the Open, play JCB over a four-week period. They’ve now got Spain at the beginning of June. two weeks off, obviously US Open. I understand that. Then it’s New Orleans, then it’s like a month off to allow him to play the Open, then it’s over to the UK, then it’s back to Chicago. Like that I I I just strange European swing works really well. I understand. Look, I understand. Great to see South Africa in there, by the way. Great. Anyone who listens to podcast knows I’m half South African. Great to see South Africa get get a tournament which is going to be in middle of March. The weather’s going to be absolutely perfect. It’s like it’s going to be superb.
We also have to just just qualify that. So for the listen the listeners, this is a preliminary schedule. This is not set in stone yet. The the the dates can change. The locations are probably going to stay the same. The dates can potentially change between now and when it’s finalized. So I I just want be because we we went through the same thing last year where they had a preliminary release and people start freaking about freaking out about certain things and like they want wind up switching things and like three or four of the locations were totally different u and the times a year were totally different different too. So there’s a couple things that that we need to kind of just qualify with this uh conversation that like this isn’t 100% final just yet. Okay. I I I whether it’s final or not, I just think that the not having the European events together is is a huge miss. Um
New Orleans in July, New Orleans the end of June or or Dallas the end of June makes no sense. No sense at all. I’ll be the first to say it.
Mate, the hottest stickiest place in the world in June could be New Orleans. And I look just um I get
I got on the PJ tour for the same stuff with Memphis going to play Memphis in August. Like you just should do it. It makes no sense.
When when
it used to be entirely in Europe this time of year
when when did Houston used to be? Middle of August as well, early August. I can’t remember when that was. No. Uh well, yeah, Houston, the Houston event last year was the beginning of June. So it wasn’t ideal either, but but like
it goes
let’s just avoid that whole area, the continental USA
100%
in mid start of June to like the middle of August. Let’s just maybe even the end of August. Anyway, let’s not keep going about schedule. I I it just doesn’t make sense to me. I I I would JC I want to see JCB stay. Um I think it’s a great course. They’re a good partner. I I know I’m being greedy, but I I do think that um I do think you could do um live Celtic or live something like that. And one one one year you got to live event in Scotland, one year in Ireland, one year in Scotland, one year in Ireland. Rotate it between a couple of courses. One in Scotland, one in Ireland, every other year have a Celt have have a Celtic event around that sort of time. But look, it’s not happened. One of the things in
really quick, one of the things in the schedule that I want want to point out that people need to keep an eye on because people are not talking about this at um at all. There’s this gap in between the US Open and the British Open aka Open Championship where New Orleans is the only thing on the schedule and it and it h happens right after the US Open. The US Opens at Shink next year. One of the things that like people need to keep an eye on is the European tour, this potential partnership between Liv and the European tour that I think is we’re closer to it than than anybody’s letting on. They’ve added new links events that they could potentially they haven’t figured out their schedule for 2026 just yet except uh Trump Scotland, Trump Aberdeene is now on the European tour schedule. this year is going to going to be in August. They could very easily next year put that right before the Scottish Open, which is the leadin to the Open Championship. That could be the opportunity for a lot of the Liv players to get in a little bit of Lynx experience um in competition right before the Open. Like I think that would be a really really great thing. And if you’re already over there, that’s kind of around the same time as open qualifying as as well. So that’s something I just want people to keep an eye on that that’s something that could be be out there if they’re able to sort of have a little bit more collaboration between Liv and the European tour. Like I think we’re going to start seeing more and more of that. We’re going to have more live players playing in European tour events just like we’re seeing this week with Sergio and Puj and Kimer and Patrick Reed, a lot of those guys playing in Germany this this week because they’re already going to be over there for the open in a couple weeks. So, just something I want people to keep an eye on once the schedule gets finalized that like that’s something that’s out there as a possibility. It it is what it is. like it’s hopefully things I shouldn’t get a beer in my bonnet about it, but you know what I’m like. I love process. I love organization. It just makes sense to me to do it that way. I I was just doing a little bit of maths now cuz I’m I’m boring. Um I was looking at the amount of points that um that the bottom teams have got. Why I think team competitiveness has to be so has to be so important. Um, Crush has got 160 points so far this season.
Yeah, shout out to the Crushers, too. They’ve won three in a row.
And if you if you if you add the total team points together, Stinger, Smash, Range Goats, Highflyers, Clicks, Majestic, and Iron Heads. That’s one, two, three, four, five, six, seven teams. So, the total points together of seven teams. They’ve only got six points more than the Crushers. You’ve just you’ve just got the the the competitiveness down the league and the Crushers people do what people do miss about the Crushers, right? They got one star name. What they haven’t got is a bad player. Paul Casey plays well.
Paul Casey is an elite global player. He always has, has like he’s been a top five player in the world.
Yeah. But what I mean is you look at the stars, it’s not a team full of stars. a team full of really good golfers where there’s no weakness like Charles How Chucky playing really well knows he’s back from injury and fully fit Barn he’s always there or thereabouts like having that ability just to keep racking up top 22 top 23 top 20 performances all the time means your team’s never getting that big plus three big plus four sticking your score down
we’re seeing it from the four races this year too
and and you’ve seen it from K like to K finished um 11th this If Meito Pereira would have vomited everywhere,
they would have finished third. Like it’s and I and I don’t want people to listen to I just got to be honest. If I just if I sit here and go, “Oh, meet me prayer.” For for any English fans listening, I’ve been watching the cricket today and the commentators are being disingenuous. They’re talking really positive about a guy called Basher and his bowling. His bowling is dreadful by any metric. He’s not a very good spinner. He shouldn’t be in the England team. the fact he is in the England team says more about the depth of talent in the rest of the country in our sport. It’s terrifying. But they come, oh, he’s doing really well. He’s he’s he’s bowling a good line. Well, yeah, but he hasn’t turned a ball for 100 overs. Like they think, sorry, six 60 overs. The guy the guy just isn’t very good. And if I sat here now going, well, me is doing great. Me’s doing this. Like that would be disingenuous. Like it’s nothing against him personally. I would like if he could turn if he could turn around and go I’ll be the first person to go if he goes second fourth 15th and third in the next few events I’ll be like he deserves his place the guy’s playing brilliantly but I just you’ve got to be honest on this and it’s not me bashing players um I just want to talk very quickly for two seconds about the open qualifying lean Dean absolutely fantastic Herbs absolutely amazing to see it and Westy on the back of no sleep rolling back the years great to see him do it and but it’s almost frustrating ing like I said about PZ this year and I said about about Lee this year the amount of times that PZ and Lee have two really good rounds out of three like it’s it’s really like it’s the game’s there they can do it and they just have like one bad round. See with Phil too like I mean a lot of these guys
put Phil in there as well. Yeah. A lot of guy a lot of guys uh they they get a little bit older like that consistency because their ceiling is pretty much just just as high. Like people are people are asking me on Twitter how Lee Lee Westwood can do in the open champ. I’m like Lee Lee Westwood can win the British Open. Like make no mistake about it. Like the last time
the last time he he was uh played Port Rush he finished top five and that was only six years ago. Lee Westwood has not lost his game. this ceiling is is still very very high. It’s just as consistency is not quite like as you get older, you’re just not as consistent. Like you get out of bed, you you just don’t feel the same way you did the day day before. Like it it’s just it comes with uh with age, but like a lot of these guys still have very high ceilings, which is part of the reason why I will never doubt the ability for Phil Mickelson to potentially compete in and win another major championship. people have been people doubted it five years ago or four years ago when he won the PJ Akiwa and it’s like he if he could do it then he could do it now so and a lot of these guys it’s the same thing so it’s just the consistency is hard u on the old older players they’re still fully capable which is part of the reason why like I want to see Lee Westwood and Ian Ian Poulter play well at the end of this lift season so that there’s no question that they should be back next year so uh and we’re not quite there yet they’re kind of They’re teetering a little bit now. So like they they’ve had some some better results, but the problem with the Majestics is like they’ve they’ve got Lee Westwood at 42, Stinson at 43, and Poulter at 46. Like that’s just not going to get it done. Like you’re going to have to make make a change. You have to. So even if they’re even if one of th those guys doesn’t get relegated, you got to make a change and bring in somebody that’s like a Terrell Hatton or like a Tommy Fleetwood or somebody that’s like more close to their prime because they are they’re consistency is there. They’re playing. They’re they’re at close to the top of their game. Like that’s going to lift that that entire team. So, it’s just something all these teams need to like I’m sure they’re already thinking about it obviously, but like we just need to see improvement for some some of these teams, but um but but shout out to Lee Westwood. Like um I have have been a Lee West Westwood fan for a long time. Um I’ve wanted to see him win a m major championship over over the course of his career. He’s a former world number one and I I just have a funny feeling he’s going to play really well at port at Port Russia. I just don’t. So, I’m not saying he’s going to win except I could see him finish in the top 10, top 20 pretty easily. Look, I I would love nothing more than see a live player win a winner for us. Question real quick. Um we have to end this. We actually saw that um the Open is doing a pre-qualifier on the Monday between between 12 and 16 players. Now, there’s been nothing mentioned about what 12 to 16 or how you get into that 12 to 16.
No idea.
Do we know anything about that yet,
but I think it’s I think it’s super I think it’s super cool.
It’s interesting. It’s an interesting idea. It’s like basically having a Monday qualifier um at the venue where they’re going to have the the actual open championship. Like this is like
it was also it was also suggested that the the alternates won’t come from qualifying. They’ll come from that event.
Oh, interesting.
So, I’ve been trying to do a lot of research into this.
Yeah. So, I did
very limited information. I did read that the first player will go in and then the top three players will be invited to stay as potential alternates. Yeah.
And how and and you always you always get one or two people pull out. So
no, it’s an interesting concept and I I think that that equates to success in the actual championship maybe more than having qualifying at a variety of different courses that are not like the venue that they’re playing at. So, if you’re playing well at the venue that that they’re playing at, chances are that sort of increases your odds of actually playing uh playing well in the actual major. So, it’s an interesting concept. I’d like to hear more about how they’re going to select
18 guides. Is it going to be world rank? No. I mean, is is it going to be world ranking?
I think it’s also interesting. I think it’s also interesting. It’s just 18 holes.
Yeah. No, it’s like like Monday qualifying on the
Yeah. PJ tour, Europe or European tour, it’s the same thing. It’s like except that that Monday qualifier usually isn’t at the actual venue where they’re playing playing the event. So, this is kind of like a unique thing that I don’t I don’t think I’ve even seen pre uh previously. So, uh yeah, it’s going to be interesting. I’m looking for details.
No, there’s no information yet I’ve seen. Um I wonder if I wonder if I if I have a look now. Um
yeah, it’s going to be at um at Royal Burkedale though next year, which is the where uh the open’s going to be. Um 26. I actually I also noticed that they’ve officially said St. Andrews is going to be it’s going to going to host the 2027 Open Championship which is also the last year of where Cam Smith his major exemptions starts start to run out in 2027. So, um yeah, St. Andrews I I think we we might have to figure out a way for us to get over there for that. Like that’s one on the bucket list for sure to be at a open at St. Andrews. So, you know, well, we’ll have to see. Oh, I I know. I know.
But Burkedale was a good one, too. Burkedale’s a good one.
I think St. Andrews is so overrated. Don’t Don’t do this.
It is. It’s just cuz of the history. It’s just the history. Like, it let let’s be honest. It’s not even the best layout in the world. It’s just like let’s
It’s amazing.
Yeah. It’s It’s the vibe. It’s everything about it.
Just being in the middle of the city. Like, it’s something that’s so unique in golf. How do you know? How do you know if someone’s played St. Andrews? The same way you know if someone’s vegan. Just wait. They’ll tell you. Like it’s just just I just have a minute off.
I haven’t played it so I couldn’t tell you. But yeah, it’s on the list though. It’s definitely on the
I do I think it’s a brilliant course? Yes. Do I think it’s a beautiful course? Yes. Do I love the history? Do I love everything about it? Yes, I do. Do I think it gets way too much hype?
Yeah, I do. Probably. But you can say the same about Pebble Beach. Like People say public beach is overhyped, but it’s still the second best course in the world.
Same. It’s not the second best course in the world. Behave. It’s not the second best course in the world. We talking about it’s you can argue it’s not number two. You pretty much can’t argue that it’s top five. I can easily argue it’s not top five, but you’ve also never been there. So, you know, I
No, you have to. Like I’ve never been to St. Andrews, so it’s like I can’t
I’ve never been I’ve never been kicked I’ve never been kicked in the face by a horse. cuz you don’t know it hurts. No, but you there’s certain places you do have to actually be there and experience a tournament while playing it like that just it elevates it in your mind. Every time I play certain courses like a Pebble Beach or a Posa Tempo or you know places like like that. I even played you know Pinehurst and like Wingfoot and like places like like that. the more you play those, they just continue to elevate in your mind and it’s like because you start to sort of extract all these like like subtleties about like, oh, I didn’t notice that like on TV or like and all these things start adding up to make him even better and better better. Um, and Pebble also has all of the history that that it’s had over the course of time uh time, too. So there there’s just a lot of stuff that sort of goes into it for me and I haven’t played every course out there. So it’s like yeah, I mean maybe some something else squeezes into the top five for me, but it’s going to be very very hard to beat the setting of Pebble Beach combined with the tradition combined with the championships that that it’s had, combined with the challenge that the course actually presents. Like it’s just a combination of factors that very very very few courses can meet. I couldn’t really care what tournaments I couldn’t really care what tournaments somewhere’s hosted.
Like that that that legacy nonsense. Yeah. Like okay there’s you you’re going to play very few better layouts, visions, quality course in the world than Raw Greens. Like but it’ll never be in the top 200 300 in the world because it’s got no because people put way too much weight on leg on some of the legacy side of it. But anyway, I’m not going to get bogged down with it. I I find the world rankings find the world rankings of course is is speurious at best. Um if we’re honest is this if we’re honest it’s contrived and a little bit corrupt. Just just like all just like most rankings in
golf if any if anyone wants to know why I think that go and have a look at the people who are on the committees for some of the different world rankings and who they work for and what groups they work for that happen to own courses that are in the top 100. If you work for a organization that owns courses, you should not be on the board that ranks the top 100 courses. I don’t understand how golf is so full of this corruption. It is absolutely mesmerizing. It’s not even hidden. It’s in plain sight. Go and have a look if you want. If you’re that bored, get on to Google or chat GPT and have a look at who the deciding um people are on the different top 100 rankings and also see where they happen to work. Well, part of it is that except there there’s also completely there’s other top 100 lists that are more crowdsourced from people that have actually played it and like there there’s so many rankings out out there, but like the the Golf Digest stuff, forget it.
One one of the things that one of the things that destroys me and just really grinds my gears is people going on to some of those crowd ranking things and downranking um Trump courses. Like you aren’t damaging Donald Trump, you’re damaging the people that work there and tend those courses. Turbury is absolute perfection. Like I would play T if you offer me chance to play Turbury five times or Pebble 100, I take turnbury five. It’s it’s pure heaven.
I’ I’ve been to both and it’s it’s Pebble’s better than Turnberry.
No, it isn’t. Not. So I have to come I have to come and play and tell you about it is anyway. Right before Jay and I fall out about that we fall out all I love the way you’re one of my best mates and all we’ve done is argue for like an hour. Anyone who’s still listening um to confirm start the show Jay [ __ ] at golf used to be really good. Can’t hit a driver at all. And um if you want to watch me miss putts if you want to miss me miss putts from four feet. I am still running my attempt uh five putts in a row series. Have you seen that John Conrad has started to run statistics on my putt percentages?
God is I love that man.
You start putting you start putting some of the stuff out there. It’s like, wow. You can really start to see what what you’re good at and what you’re bad at. Honestly, taking stats is like such an important thing for like
Am I the only person that’s better from 8 foot and 10 foot than I am from four? That’s That’s really bad.
It’s mental. It’s mental.
I’m just slight I’m slightly better than 57% from 4 foot. Yeah.
Probably need a larger sample size at the same
I’m like 80 I’m 80% from eight and eight and 10. Let’s Let’s get you up to like a hundred attempts and then we we
If I got If I got to do this another 10 times and I kill myself going out setting out the camera like point
I need another putter or something. Maybe you get a loud putter. You’ll make make
No, my It’s not the ping putter that’s the problem. It’s the prick on the end of it. That’s the That’s the issue. The ping putter is lovely.
But forgiveness, you know.
The fact I can The fact I can join eight drain eight foot and 10 foot putts for fun but can’t make it from four. It means it’s me that’s the problem, not the putter. Anyway,
right. Well, you’re definitely We’ll talk about that more more later. Right.
You’re definitely bringing your You’re definitely bringing your clubs, aren’t you, when you come over, I think. So, we’ll have to see.
Don’t Don’t be that guy. Don’t be mate. We got We got so much golf we can play. My clubs have to use shipsticks. Pram, don’t use shipsticks. Just put them in a case and bring them with you. No. No. Cuz I don’t want to have
a travel case.
I don’t want to take the chance of losing something. I don’t want to take the chance of of I don’t want to drag it on the freaking train and stuff like that. That’s just like too me too much. So, I might have to use ship shipstick shipsticks. Uh I’ve communicated with them a little bit. So, I might might be able to send their
send or send me send me your stats on what what clubs you use and we’ll get Ross um Ross Mcchants from Cash for Clubs. He you’ll get you’ll sort us out a loaner and as close to your gear as possible. There’s a shout. We’re not even we’re not even sponsored by them. We’re not even sponsored by Cash for Clubs, but Ross, you have that shout out.
I have to say my my stuff is so unique. I actually just filmed the what what’s in the bag that Mrs. PGC was the the director on it. She is so hard on herself in terms of the filming. She wants to redo it. So, it’s about 12 minutes. It’s actually really good for first attempt. Uh my bag is very very unique. I want to do one now before I make any changes. Like everybody knows that my lab putter custom lab putter is on the way. I’m hoping to get that prior to the UK trip. Probably not. I think it’s going to get here probably some sometime in like August. Driver is probably the next thing that’s got to go. 3-wood and and sort of uh wedges are great. Mid irons driver, those are probably the next two things uh to get to get upgraded because they’re Yeah, they need a little work. Right. Well, on that, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for us to go. I’ve got work to do. Um, life is busy and I’ve got some putts to go miss in my garden. Um, and for for those in the US that celebrate, happy July 4th. Um, luckily this is like the time of year where a lot of a lot of us in the US get time off from work. Uh, I’ve got the next couple days off, which is great. Um, I need it. I need to re recharge. I’m going to get in a lot of golf uh because I I was able to extract a lot of things from this uh tournament and things that I need to sort of work on and and improve on. So uh and that’s what you know challenging yourself in a competitive environment really is about. It’s it’s not about the result, it’s about the journey and the process that’s the most amount of fun. But I tell you one thing that did work really well for you when you were playing that tournament was your Shot Scope rangefinder from shotscope.com. Golf lover at checkout for 15% off at shotscope.com. Do you like that?
Yes. No, it was good. I did have to turn this slope off though. It’s a very important thing. You got to have the slope off in these competitions. So, luckily I had had it turn turned off. No issues.
How many people How many people do you actually think have that turned off? I reckon it’s so easy to abuse that rule. Yeah. A lot of them you can see on the side like they have a little highlighting thing to let let you know.
Yeah, but you put your hand on the side of it. Move. Hand on the side. Move it. Anyway, right. We got to go. I’ve got to go. I’ve got work to do. I love you all. Goodbye.

12 Comments

  1. Agree with pga winning a liv event should give you an exemption and also relegation they need to stay firm on the bottom 6 on liv need to be gone

  2. Ben and Jay Red WHEN will we see the new teams announced for next year for Liv Golf and player changes? possible new sponsors? Jay does Tyrrell Hatton on message next year Ben Dose Clerks GC sign MEX

  3. Solid listen chaps.

    Thought the Scott O’Neil interview with Rick Shiels was quite enlightening this week – positive vibes given off.
    Bring the clubs to the UK PGC, get some proper links golf played lad 👍

  4. Ben and Jay can you do a contract show on the players that y'all know who's contractor of this year. It might be in the relegation zone or drop zone

  5. Relegation needs to mean relegation, i was talking to some South Africans at the International series here in Morocco today and they agreed Gracey if hes in the relegation zone he needs to go, same with Jonesy as much as i like both players

  6. So off on relegation meaning relegation. It’s a team sport, the teams need to run themselves, not the league.

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